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In Measuring Stick Game, Lakers Come Up Short

Tonight the Lakers played the Philadelphia 76ers, the team with the 4th best record in the association. Neither team was playing on the second night of a back-to-back, something that is a rarity in this compressed season. In a hostile environment against a very good team with fresh legs, this was a measuring stick game. A chance to see how the Lakers would stack up should the playoffs begin now. The answer: not very well. All the strengths and weaknesses of this Lakers team was on full display tonight. Unfortunately for the Lakers, their weaknesses are simply too many to overcome against a playoff caliber opponent.

The Lakers biggest strength is their big three of Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol, and Andrew Bynum. The trio of stars is as good as any in the league, even the team from South Beach. Tonight the big three showed just what they can do. Kobe played superb (at least during the first 44 minutes, more on that to come) as he lit up Philadelphia for 24 points in the first half on 8 of 14 shooting. In the second half, the 76ers sent constant double teams at him, forcing the ball out of his hands and asking him to put faith in his teammates. To Kobe's credit, he did not force the action but took what the defense gave him and typically made the right plays.

Andrew Bynum showed why he is the second best center in the league as he had his second 20-20 game of the season. He scored his 20 points on a very efficient 8 of 13 shooting. He demonstrated the foot work and finishing ability that makes him one of the better offensive centers in the league. He also finished with a three assists, two of which were Gasol-esque in ability. In addition to being an offensive load down low, he was the anchor of the defense, finishing with three blocks and holding the 76ers to lower than 50% shooting inside the key.

Pau Gasol managed to score 16 points and pull down 11 rebounds as the Lakers third option, but he struggled to do so efficiently, making only 5 of 16 attempts. Therein lies the first weakness of the Lakers, the need their big three to play great in order to win.

Star-divide

The Lakers simply don't have the offensive firepower on the roster to be able to win games without a great effort from the Lakers three stars. Mike Brown, or in tonight's case John Kuester, appears to have found something in Andrew Goudelock, who continues to impress with his ability to knock down threes while mixing in the occasional runner when the defense closes out too hard. Even Troy Murphy, the former double-double machine, is beginning to find his shooting touch and provide some respectable offensive production. But beyond that, it begins to look very grim.

Most teams have a rotation that can go at least 8 deep with some semblance of quality production. The Lakers only have two bench players worthy enough to be called that. When you consider that the Lakers essentially start two players, Metta World Peace and Derek Fisher, who aren't providing much production either, it quickly becomes evident why the Lakers have struggled to score. They have a big three, two respectable bench players, and not much else. The Lakers will win games when all three stars play great without any bench contributions (see the game against the Timberwolves). They will even win games when two of the three play well so long as someone steps up from the bench. But should two of the Lakers stars struggle, the Lakers will almost certainly lose as the bench won't be able to make up the difference.

Tonight's game very much fit this mold. Through the first 44 minutes, the Lakers had two stars playing great, Bryant and Bynum. They also received some meaningful contributions from Goudelock and Murphy. As a result, they possessed a 7 point lead with just under 5 minutes to play. But then the wheels fell off as the Lakers scored only four points the rest of the way. Kobe was the prime culprit as he made only 1 of 7 field goals during the stretch and took what was a solid performance and turned it into an inefficient night and a Lakers loss. The loss can't be squarely placed on Kobe's shoulders though.

The major problem for the Lakers is their shooting. Even with the emergence of Goudelock (41.3% on threes) and rediscovery of Murphy (44.8% on threes), the Lakers are still one of the worst three point shooting teams in the league. Kobe Bryant has taken 127 three's this season and made only 30% of them. The next highest volume shooter is Metta World Peace who has taken 52 attempts and made only 9. Then there is the injured Steve Blake with 48 attempts at a respectable 35.4%, followed by Fisher who has made only 11 of his 40 attempts. To have three of the top four shooters by volume all making fewer than 30% will not lead to success.

The next major issue is the turnover battle. The Lakers have never been great at forcing turnovers, but the level with which they have fallen is astounding. In today's preview, Dex set the over/under for 76ers turnovers at 6, roughly 40% of the league average. Apparently he overestimated the Lakers abilities as they forced only 4 turnovers all game. Turnovers are the second biggest factor (behind shooting) for whether or not games are won or loss. Every night the Lakers step on the floor they essentially spot the opposition at least a half dozen extra shots via the turnover battle. Tonight that translated into a 20 to 6 advantage for the 76ers in points off turnovers. Game over. Thanks for playing.

Late game execution continues hurt this Lakers team. Some nights Kobe tries to take over to the detriment of the team. Other nights he looks to facilitate and no one steps up. Tonight he got very good looks and simply failed to convert. Whatever the reasons, the Lakers seem to fall apart in close games, especially on offense. Against a playoff caliber opponent, blowouts are hard to come by. A team has to be able to win close grind-it-out games in the playoffs to win a title. The Lakers haven't shown any ability to do that this season.

The other aspects of the game however are still quite good for the Lakers. They have a strong free-throw advantage and when focused usually dominate the boards. Tonight they got to the free throw line more often than the 76ers and owned the boards to the tune of 55 to 30. Yet they still managed to lose.

The current Lakers margin for victory is too thin. They need all three stars to play great (or a significant contribution form the bench), they must have a free throw and rebound advantage to offset the turnovers, and they must make threes at a rate of 30% or better. The Lakers need all of the above to happen for a win. If one fails, the result is usually a loss. Tonight these weaknesses were on full display for all to see. The Lakers looked dominant when the big three played well, but it quickly fell apart when one of them began to stumble. They may be able to get away with these games against the bottom feeders of the league, but not the playoff bound teams. Tonight was a measuring stick game. The Miami Heat just came into the same arena three nights earlier and put a 20 point beat down on this same Philadelphia team, showing just how much of a gap there is between the Lakers and the true title contenders.

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As long as this statement stays true and no one is added its going to be easy for other teams to just pack the paint
Most teams have a rotation that can go at least 8 deep with some semblance of quality production. The Lakers only have two bench players worthy enough to be called that.

Either way, its getting frustrating to continue to wish and hope for outside perimeter shooting to come via that addition of another player. A guy can only take so many Trade Machine proposals.

It is tough as a fan of this team that every night our hopes rest hoping that someone else not named Kobe to help out with outside shooting.

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by Jelly Bean on Feb 6, 2012 9:21 PM PST reply actions  

blakes return will certainly help in the outside shooting.

as well as running an offense with the second unit.

and I’m praying that smith will sign with us. Bynum or Pau with a second unit of Blake, Glock, Smith & Murphy could be deadly.

"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung

by LakersFoEva on Feb 7, 2012 7:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Ugh. Thanks AS!

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @76ers.
Tweetness

by SoCalGal on Feb 6, 2012 9:28 PM PST reply actions  

My expectations for this team is not very high

Considering how our team lacks depth, I’m not expecting something big from this Lakers team this season.

Proud to be a brony.

by yoshifan on Feb 6, 2012 9:29 PM PST reply actions  

Unfortunately I have to agree

I expect them to make it past the first round, but I will be very happy if they make it past the second. I will keep hope alive.

"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson

"Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd." - Voltaire

by Gil Meriken on Feb 6, 2012 10:24 PM PST up reply actions  

WE ARE NOT WINNING ANYTHING THIS YEAR

THE POWER OF SHAW COMPELS YOU.. THE POWER OF SHAW COMPELS YOU.....

by imposibol on Feb 6, 2012 9:31 PM PST reply actions  

You pretty much sum it up. Great recap.

Ugh! This really is a very frustrating season.

by BoneCruncher24 on Feb 6, 2012 9:52 PM PST reply actions  

And OKC beats Portland

Now we have the same record as the Blazers. I think based on our division record, we rank higher than them.

Proud to be a brony.

by yoshifan on Feb 6, 2012 9:56 PM PST reply actions  

We can still do this.

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by Jelly Bean on Feb 6, 2012 9:58 PM PST up reply actions  

And wow!

Their road trip record is as bad as ours!

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by yoshifan on Feb 6, 2012 10:02 PM PST up reply actions  

That made me feel pretty happy

Even though it shouldn’t…

"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest

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by Hdg23 on Feb 6, 2012 10:09 PM PST up reply actions  

All right

I’m out now.

P.S.: My prediction for the last three games of our road trip is a win for all three of them.

Proud to be a brony.

by yoshifan on Feb 6, 2012 10:10 PM PST reply actions  

Our problems aren't huge problems and they can be fixed

We need a little help from management in getting a scorer pg off the bench or possibly starter. It’s time for Fisher to sit down and play 15-20 minutes. They need to go out and get Ramon Sessions and/or JR Smith.

by nitotech on Feb 6, 2012 10:16 PM PST reply actions  

D Fish is a warrior playing his heart out but

To see him get killed on defense is one thing but now teams ball pressure him up the court like hes the starting point on a 3rd world basketball team playing the U.S. Im actually starting to feel sad for him. Not in the big picture sense of course because he’s a millionaire and I’m not, but in the very human sense of seeing someone who put alot of time into their craft but quite simply doesnt have it anymore.There’s a certain type of almost Shakespearean aspect to watching Fish’s slow basketball deterioration. Father time catches up to everyone and it’s painfully clear he has a firm hand on Derek Fishers shoulder.

by Archon on Feb 6, 2012 10:18 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Well said

I wish I didn’t agree, but I’m forced to…
He’s given us lots of great moments. Nobody will beat the amazing 0.4 game winner.

Tornadoes suck.

by st0rmchaser on Feb 6, 2012 10:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Nobody will beat most of his big moments

And he’s had a lot of them. Especially considering that he’s never once been a top option playing with Kobe and Shaq and then Kobe, Gasol and Odom (not quite Shaq, but about as good a supporting cast as there is).

I’m trying to convince myself that he has one more postseason where he can do something great, but I’m not convinced that this team will even make it to the playoffs.

"I could never wear another uniform. I will always be a Yankee"- Jorge Posada

Thanks for the memories Jorge

by nyyrocks29 on Feb 7, 2012 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I really hate to say it,

but i wish fish was in blake’s shoes right now…

"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung

by LakersFoEva on Feb 7, 2012 7:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Meaning what?

"I could never wear another uniform. I will always be a Yankee"- Jorge Posada

Thanks for the memories Jorge

by nyyrocks29 on Feb 7, 2012 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Iggy is a very athletic forward who can defend...

and a quick point guard who can penetrate. They (Sixers) play excellent team D as CC has done a great job with them. The game against the Heat was very close and competitive until the Heat went with a quick line-up (Bosh, Bron, DW, Udonis, and Miller) that ramped up the defensive effort and went on a 15-0 run late in the fourth.

(Martin Landau) Bela Lugosi: How dare that a****** bring up Karloff? You think it takes talent to do Frankenstein? It's all makeup and grunting.

--From the movie Ed Wood

GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!

by mjtig on Feb 6, 2012 10:19 PM PST reply actions  

*and Holiday is a quick point guard who can penetrate very well...

(Martin Landau) Bela Lugosi: How dare that a****** bring up Karloff? You think it takes talent to do Frankenstein? It's all makeup and grunting.

--From the movie Ed Wood

GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!

by mjtig on Feb 6, 2012 10:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Philly has a good team

If you don’t have a scoring center (as most teams don’t) there is really nowhere to really attack them. If I were the sixers I wouldn’t want to play Orlando (or Miami of course) in the playoffs but id like my chances against every other team in the east.

by Archon on Feb 6, 2012 10:31 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

things that will trouble me until a change is made

- for all the talk about how dominant pau/drew is, our backup bigs must be the worst in the entire league
- like i said before, this team is top-heavy like christina hendricks. it might not matter how dominant our big three are (which hasn’t even happened on a consistent basis) if our bench continues to get outscored by 20-30 ppg or even by a single sixth man on the other side!
- right now, we’re no better than mike brown’s cavs teams: predictable on offense (with the added bonus of being inconsistent in execution!) while great on defense. and sure, we can keep using the “offense will get straightened out” excuse – which i’m guilty of doing – but before you know it, it’ll be the first round and who knows, we might be covering up the lack of improvement in the offense by saying we’ll win with guile and experience.
- for all the talk of how our team gave mike brown more top-talent than he had in Cleveland (a disparity that’s significantly shrunk post-Odom trade), his Cavs teams were a LOT deeper than our team is. our bench is in such a state that we’re forced to give PT to shooters who can’t and/or won’t shoot i.e. murphy and kapono.

ultimately, if/when mitch makes a trade to bolster the bench (at the very least), a lot of these issues/questions will be answered. but that’s the problem, that move/those moves have yet to happen, so until they are, these issues are here to stay.

Slava.
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by hobojarpen on Feb 6, 2012 10:32 PM PST reply actions  

I really don't think they are as bad. I do agree with some of your points. But I really

think that they are one important piece (perimeter shooter) from solving all of their problems.

THE BANDWAGON: Championship? lol you’ve gotta b kidding. - Emmceee /we aren't winning anything this year man - BlueXfalcon / We arent winning anything this year - Lakergirl / we aren’t winning anything this yurrrrr - Tkuang /I expect them to make it past the first round, but I will be very happy if they make it past the second.- Gil M. / We aren’t gonna win anything this year, dude - Aethereal / don't think we will win anything this year. Seriously-CLDPC / I’m not expecting something big from this Lakers team this season - Yoshifan

by Jelly Bean on Feb 6, 2012 10:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Ouch...
The Miami Heat just came into the same arena three nights earlier and put a 20 point beat down on this same Philadelphia team, showing just how much of a gap there is between the Lakers and the true title contenders.

"These are young men with too much money and too much fame for something as relatively inconsequential as sports, but this is entertainment." --Phil Jackson

by lakerdynasty on Feb 6, 2012 10:38 PM PST reply actions  

it sure does

"These are young men with too much money and too much fame for something as relatively inconsequential as sports, but this is entertainment." --Phil Jackson

by lakerdynasty on Feb 6, 2012 11:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Not to imply the Lakers are as good as the Heat,

but I don’t like this whole “compare how you do against X team” shtick. If it was, the Bobcats having the only winning record against the Lakers during their championship years would mean something.

by Aethereal on Feb 7, 2012 12:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I never compare teams on how they fare against the same opponents

basketball is about matchups. how one team matches up with another doesn’t translate to how they’ll perform against another. you can extrapolate but it doesn’t do much good. philly is a young team that loves to run and has good shooters. we are old and cant shoot for shit. go figure. miami is the superior team due to their star power super athleticism and deeper roster. a comparison isn’t necessary to show how pitiful we are compared to the elite.

"If you’re afraid to fail, then you’re probably going to fail. You know what I mean? Fuck it." -- Kobe "Black Mamba" Bryant

by jXn on Feb 7, 2012 3:43 AM PST up reply actions  

TWSS?
In Measuring Stick Game, Lakers Come Up Short

Steve Blake will save us all… Save us all from the horrifying experience that is Derek Fisher playing major minutes…

Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy.
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by Paul Udani on Feb 7, 2012 12:09 AM PST reply actions  

he'll still play quite a lot

It’ll probably just go back to what we had earlier where they each played about half the game.

"I could never wear another uniform. I will always be a Yankee"- Jorge Posada

Thanks for the memories Jorge

by nyyrocks29 on Feb 7, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Kobe’s peak prime consisted of playing with teammates like Kwame and Smush. He did get two rings in his late prime or early twilight, but this all goes to show how rapid a descent a championship team can experience in less than two years. Forget Lamar. I still love him like no other, but our biggest mistake in the last five years was jettisoning Ariza for Artest (forgetting for a moment that Lamar asked to be traded). CP3 would not have made us a contender if we also gave up Gasol. As much as it hurts to say it, we need to trade Gasol. His value will soon begin its path towards its inexorable nadir. The precipitous decline in his play since t last year’s playoffs has been nothing short of spectacular. He’s almost a different player, relegated nowadays to the periphery on offense and a non-facor on defense. He doens’t close or contest, barely gets off the floor and regularly allows both smalls and bigs to waltz down the lane for a layup. Numbers can’t tell the story. At this point, I don’t think it would be hyperbolic to suggest that Luis Scola has more to offer. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not laying all our problems at the alter of Gasol. Outside the big three, the balance of the squad is stunningly awful. Darius Morris will not be in the NBA within two years, but that’s a topic for another discussion. But back to my point, Gasol is the only legitimate asset we have that could muster some return on investment. That will soon evaporate like the morning mist if we do not act quickly. If the advent of modern free agency has taught us anything with respect to the twilight, it is that the steadfast refusal to part with fading stars, if only for a year too long, can have grave and devastating consequences. Scores of franchises exist on a rubble heap of regret for holding on. Make Kwame the gift that keeps on giving, get a pg and another shooter/slasher (preferably both in the visage of one player) and then we’ll be talking. Then we just have to worry about the bench. Yes, it is that serious. This is called decline…reload or rebuild.

by Kaspian on Feb 7, 2012 12:18 AM PST reply actions  

Agreed Kaspien.

He’s been through too much here.
And his conversation with Mitch, when Lamar left, sealed his fate.
Mitch said: I think he took it well,"
apparently that’s highly debatable, and reason for his futile descent
He’s known for a while about the writing on the wall.
Gasol won’t be able to give 100% until he is dealt to a new team.
Minn and Hous have expressed interest since the beginning of the year.

by look closer on Feb 7, 2012 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Milestone game

smh

Love me or hate me; it's one or the other. Always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons. - Kobe Bryant

by grail on Feb 7, 2012 1:00 AM PST reply actions  

exactly lol

THE POWER OF SHAW COMPELS YOU.. THE POWER OF SHAW COMPELS YOU.....

by imposibol on Feb 7, 2012 1:30 AM PST up reply actions  

WTH?

Dangit…someone checked for me and told me the Lakers were up 5 with a bit to go in the 4th and then I come here to find this shit. Kobe only had 4 pts in the 2nd half? That never translates to anything positive. Murphy’s alive and kicking, nice. Glock so far proving he’s not a fluke like shannon. The sad part bout all this, and I never thought I’d be thinking this, but Blake’s absence is really felt. Without him, the 2nd unit offense is a deadbeat. Whatever, on to the next one, which is Boston. Great, battle of the ancients coming up.

"If you’re afraid to fail, then you’re probably going to fail. You know what I mean? Fuck it." -- Kobe "Black Mamba" Bryant

by jXn on Feb 7, 2012 3:34 AM PST reply actions  

and blakes absence keeps fisher on the floor,

which is not a good thing at this point in time.

"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung

by LakersFoEva on Feb 7, 2012 8:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Kobe's had a few games now where he's started out red hot shooting well above 50%

in the first half before ending up well below that percentage by the end of the game. I don’t know if it’s tired legs/age and the schedule or the fact that when Kobe’s hot he REALLY likes to test how hot he is by taking tougher and tougher shots…but it’s a concern.

by Derek Fisher's Intangibles on Feb 7, 2012 5:39 AM PST reply actions  

They took him out while he was still hot, so he cooled down. Happens every time. Announcers were saying the same thing.

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Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @76ers.
Tweetness

by SoCalGal on Feb 7, 2012 6:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Exactly!

Mychal T. was frustrated they took him out.
And equally as frustrated when they stopped going to him during a late stretch.
Coaching.

by look closer on Feb 7, 2012 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Dear Mitch:

The big three can’t make chicken salad out of chicken shit. Thus, it would be a wondeful thing if you got them some help.

Sincerely,

E-ROC

by E-ROC on Feb 7, 2012 6:08 AM PST via Android app reply actions  

I just noticed that Kobe didnt have his wrist wrapped up last night

Maybe his shot was off cause he is getting used to having his wrist back…… Maybe it did heal, which is amazing when u think about it

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by BIGBO on Feb 7, 2012 6:38 AM PST reply actions  

2 respectable bench players?

Glock and Blake are the only ones i can think of. Murphy is terrible beyond spotting up for an occasional 3 and anything gained by that is canceled out by his terrihorrible defense. I would rather have a defensive minded center ie Pryzbilla or even Mbenga then give McRambis or DC Murphy’s minutes at pf. Milsap milsap milsap or anybody we can beg to come here to take over backup sg instead of Kap-Oh-No. This is gonna b a long season if we dnt make some great moves cuz the answer isnt on this roster. Oan Should things continue to go south, I Hope Dallas reaches the top 20 so we’ll have 2 top 20 picks in a deep draft.

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by EmmCeee on Feb 7, 2012 7:06 AM PST via Android app reply actions  

The Lakers looked dominant when the big three played well

“Dominant” for the Lakers this season is a 7-point lead.

Can't spell "Colletti" without LOL.

by D4P on Feb 7, 2012 7:07 AM PST reply actions  

Gasol didn't play well tonight

But he did have a few minutes where he executed the pick and roll with Kobe to perfection. He either hit a short jumper or fed Bynum for a dunk when his man rotated. During these minutes when all three players were playing well, the Lakers were making 12-2 type of runs and looking unstoppable. That is what I was referencing.

by Actuarially Sound on Feb 7, 2012 7:45 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

The lack of leadership @ the PG spot, is aging this team visually.

Each night we watch them get older, per working tooooooo hard.
Good thread!
The big three will always be inconsistant, til we get a PG.
Thus:
This Rebuilding year will be a tough one to swallow.
Moreover: the trade deadline has players performing under standards as well.

by look closer on Feb 7, 2012 10:28 AM PST reply actions  


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