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Lakers 93, Nuggets 89: More, Please

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Last night, your Los Angeles Lakers beat the Denver Nuggets, in Denver, by a final score of 93-89. This win was unusual for the Lakers in more ways than one: first off, they actually won a close game - even more unusual considering that it was a close game against a good team; also they won a road game, just their third of the season.

So, what did they do differently? Well, offensively, it almost appeared they combined the best aspects of both their last two games, contribution-wise. Whilst the big three all had decent games, Kobe's bad shooting notwithstanding, the Lakers still managed to gain good contributions from their supporting cast, with the non-big-three members combining for 36 points in total. Pretty mediocre by most team's standards, but hell it's progress for the Lakers.

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Goudelock's stretch of good play continues, and whilst this author, for one, is still too haunted by memories of Shannon Brown to put much faith in him continuing this play on a consistent basis, it's still something that's nice to enjoy while it lasts. Fisher had a rare good game. Kobe shot poorly, but contributed in other areas. Bynum was beasting. Pau was a bit passive in terms of getting his shots, but still found plenty of other ways to contribute. Metta had a good all-round game. None of these are things we haven't heard before, but to be able to say all of them about a single game is rare, indeed.

So, what was different? I can't really tell, but it goes without saying that it's a key question: if the Lakers can recognise what they did differently to pull out this win, perhaps they can take it to heart and continue to improve their play over the season. If not, last night's game gets shelved as an anomaly, a fluke, and the team continues to wallow in their mediocrity of much of this season.

The Lakers also held an advantage on the boards, considering their downward spiral in rebound rate that Actuarially Sound noted in the latest edition of Laker trends; whilst taking better care of the rock than the Nuggets. Take out Andrew Bynum's three-point attempt, and the Lakers shot a mediocre (an improvement, for them) 33% from deep to supplement their 50%eFG for the game. They shot poorly from the line, but at least they were getting to the line.

Small victories, all of the above. Kind of like a 3-game winning streak is a small-victory, compared to some of the stretches of dominance one has become accustomed to witnessing from these Lakers over the last few years, and the decades before that. But small victories are where it has to start. These Los Angeles Lakers are no longer a dominant team which can simply out-talent and/or out-big all their opponents. They're too old, slow, and shallow for that. These small victories are desperately needed. They are how a team that has no business in the NBA Finals may steal victory. Even an elephant can be brought down if swarmed by enough ants.

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I'm a little higher on Goudelock because he's already known as a shooter.

Shannon just kinda, became one… for a little bit…

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by 99bc99 on Feb 4, 2012 10:19 AM PST reply actions  

Yep

"I keep telling everybody we’re going to be fine," Bryant said. "This is the start of the year and it’s tough to kind of get out on the road. We had some very tough opponents to start the season with on the road. It’s kind of getting used to everything with no practices. We’re going to be A-OK."

by Zen and Tonic on Feb 4, 2012 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Agree

I was getting ready to reply all on my own, but I’ll back you up. Goudelock was an insane shooter in college, and a threat to score anywhere past the half court line.

While Shannon worked to develop a shot while he was with the Lakers, it really never came together for him. His “good” shooting motion was just too slow to get off and once defenses adjusted quickened their rotations on him we were left with Kobe-lite.

Goudelock has a number of money shots that he has demonstrated for years now. Those little floaters he has been flicking up are virtually unguardable, with a fast release, shot on the move, and with such a high arch that it will be difficult to block once in the air.

So, while Shannon could be tripped up just by faster rotations, defenses will have to try to channel Goudelock away from his favorite spots and try to make him make bad decisions. Altogether a much more difficult job than Shannon was, and it also the kind of situation other opportunities will open up on the floor as the defense keys on the shooter, even if Goudelock isn’t scoring.

by TFisher on Feb 4, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

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by mjtig on Feb 4, 2012 10:28 AM PST reply actions  

We won in Denver? Awwwriiigghhttt!!

Most important game of this trip IMO. The Lakers often stagger after losing in Denver so this one definitely set the tone for the rest of the trip. Plus usually when the Lakers lose the first game of a road trip especially the Grammy one, they become a bit languid in their approach and mentality. This was a major win to raise the morale a bit. Glad to see Glock doing work and the bigs taking care of business when the Kobster struggled and damn Old Meng Fisher being clutch. Great win and hopefully this will push the Lakes to conquer the rest of the way.

"If you’re afraid to fail, then you’re probably going to fail. You know what I mean? Fuck it." -- Kobe "Black Mamba" Bryant

by jXn on Feb 4, 2012 10:29 AM PST reply actions  

Winning against a good team in a close game?

Awwww……yeaahhhh

Yes, you are correct, I am wrong and I stand awesome.

by i stand awesome on Feb 4, 2012 11:00 AM PST reply actions  

Apples and oranges...IMO
Goudelock’s stretch of good play continues, and whilst this author, for one, is still too haunted by memories of Shannon Brown to put much faith in him continuing this play on a consistent basis

Shannon’s (temporary) break out came in his 5th year as a pro. His ball handling and decision making never got to a level where he could take over as a 2 to run the O through, let alone as a PG. GLock is a different, a more mature player with higher BBall IQ…even as a rookie. I’d rather have that (and his upside) because it is more valuable than a few highlight dunks every other game and breakdowns on both sides of the ball. I KNOW Shannon had hand injuries, but I’d take the rook over him if given a chance to choose again. Go GLock!

"I keep telling everybody we’re going to be fine," Bryant said. "This is the start of the year and it’s tough to kind of get out on the road. We had some very tough opponents to start the season with on the road. It’s kind of getting used to everything with no practices. We’re going to be A-OK."

by Zen and Tonic on Feb 4, 2012 12:51 PM PST reply actions  

True

Goudelock is a rook, and defenses don’t know him and don’t care so far. But UPS was a known quantity when we had him, and never really did anything to improve.

In the case of Glock he is not doing anything different. This is the same player, doing the same things he did in college. The only question is how that will translate on the NBA level. Adam Morrison is a much more fair comparison.

Morrison also was known as a shooter in college, but those skills never really translated to the NBA game. He was too big and slow to be a guard, and too slow and weak to be a forward. So defenses would just body up to him to keep him from shooting on the move. He NEVER had skills or disposition to be a spot up shooter. And he was a disaster when it came to all the other NBA skills, which meant that he had no value whatsoever.

So really, the proof will come once NBA defenses get a close look at Glock and start to adjust. I have some hope for him. Like Morrison, he dominated the ball in college, creating his own shots off the dribble. But unlike Morrison he has a body and athletic profile that can match up to point guards in the NBA. There might turn out to be all kinds of problems with him trying to BE a point guard. But he should be able to get his shots off just fine while playing that position.

by TFisher on Feb 4, 2012 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Goudelock has more to prove on defense than on offense

he has a quick release, so even if he is unable to create his own shot, he’ll be able to get open shots from teams that double kobe/drew/pau. At worst, he’s a younger derek fisher—which I guess is servicable on our team, considering fisher still starts

The problem is if he can guard PGs decently. Given his size, he won’t work against most 2’s, so he has to be fast enough to guard PGs consistently. Also depends on how well Steve blake can guard 2s. Otherwise, he’ll lose his spot to blake anyways.

by no stance on Feb 4, 2012 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Break off the rear view mirror. The Lakers are improving and building momentum.

"I keep telling everybody we’re going to be fine," Bryant said. "This is the start of the year and it’s tough to kind of get out on the road. We had some very tough opponents to start the season with on the road. It’s kind of getting used to everything with no practices. We’re going to be A-OK."

by Zen and Tonic on Feb 4, 2012 12:57 PM PST reply actions  

Something Different

Kobe passed out of double teams, getting assists instead of turnovers. Maybe earlier in the season he was dismayed as his passes resulted in missed shots, but now the crew is starting to make them. Only two TOs for Kobe last night. More of this please.

by celticandlakerfanreally on Feb 4, 2012 1:06 PM PST reply actions  

And one of them shouldn't have been a TO at all, bullshit call by the refs.

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by SoCalGal on Feb 4, 2012 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Good point

"I keep telling everybody we’re going to be fine," Bryant said. "This is the start of the year and it’s tough to kind of get out on the road. We had some very tough opponents to start the season with on the road. It’s kind of getting used to everything with no practices. We’re going to be A-OK."

by Zen and Tonic on Feb 4, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  


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