J.R. Smith Chooses the Knicks
by wondahbap on Feb 17, 2012 10:15 AM PST
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PrintThere goes another free agent that didn't choose the Lakers. Not surprising considering the Lakers can't offer the contracts some teams are able to. Ring chasing in LaLa Land this season doesn't seem to be worth the discount any top-tier free agent would have to give the Lakers. The nerve of these players...not taking the chance to help Kobe win his 6th!? What is wrong with this world?
ESPN:Shooting guard J.R. Smith tweeted Friday that he has decided to join Carmelo Anthony,Amare Stoudemire and phenom Jeremy Lin in New York.
"New York Knicks It Is!" he posted on his Twitter account.
Smith, who played last season with the Denver Nuggets, had listed the Knicks, Clippers, Lakers, Magic, Bulls and Pacers as teams he was considering joining after a stint in China that started during the NBA lockout.
No contract terms were available, but the Knicks were able to offer Smith a pro-rated share of their $2.5 million mini mid-level exception and a player option for a second year. The Knicks will have to clear a roster spot to add Smith. Veteran guard Mike Bibby and seldom-used forward Renaldo Balkmanare candidates. According to a source, center Jerome Jordan will not be released.
Now go find some mouthwash to remove that taste of puke in your mouth. Bad enough our bench needs major help, but we had to pin some hope on the slight chance J.R. Smith (of all players) bought into tradition, celebs, and other silly things we'd like to think are worth more than money to a young professional basketball player who was willing to get paid in China instead of risking missing a paycheck. He chose Gotham. Score another one for Linsanity.
Oh, and please don't start with the Mike Bibby talk...On the bright side, we still have Jason Kapono. So there's that.
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MEH! no biggie. It would have been nice but you can't blame him.
Money talks……….
THE BANDWAGON: Championship? lol you’ve gotta b kidding. - Emmceee /we aren't winning anything this year man - BlueXfalcon / We arent winning anything this year - Lakergirl / we aren’t winning anything this yurrrrr - Tkuang /I expect them to make it past the first round, but I will be very happy if they make it past the second.- Gil M. / We aren’t gonna win anything this year, dude - Aethereal / don't think we will win anything this year. Seriously-CLDPC / I’m not expecting something big from this Lakers team this season - Yoshifan
He's a douchebag anyway.
He’d have killed our chemistry…Kobe, MWP, on-edge Pau, old Derek, immature Drew…Mike Brown under duress…and add in JR? No thanks.
Lakers and Patriots forever.
It seems that the Lakers, because of what they can offer
are going to have to add talent that can make a significant impact via a trade. I read earlier that the Lakers could have signed JR if they had not offered or signed Mcroberts. Not sure if that is true but its interesting. I think that the Lakers could have also offered the same amount that the Knicks offered but the mini mid level money or part of it went to McRoberts. Oh well. NEXT!!!!
THE BANDWAGON: Championship? lol you’ve gotta b kidding. - Emmceee /we aren't winning anything this year man - BlueXfalcon / We arent winning anything this year - Lakergirl / we aren’t winning anything this yurrrrr - Tkuang /I expect them to make it past the first round, but I will be very happy if they make it past the second.- Gil M. / We aren’t gonna win anything this year, dude - Aethereal / don't think we will win anything this year. Seriously-CLDPC / I’m not expecting something big from this Lakers team this season - Yoshifan
This a lot of ifs, but
if the Knicks can keep focused on the defensive end(lol)
and Lin stays at this level of talent
and the chemistry and ball movement isn’t a problem, isn’t this a pretty damn formidable starting 5?
Yes it is.
Higher ceiling than Steve Nash’s Suns I feel. I don’t think Lin is as good as Nash, but Nash never had a ‘Melo by his side, nor a defender / pick and roll guy like Chandler. He has Amar’e who now plays for………oh yeah, that’s right. Not bad at all.
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Yeah, that's what I feel too.
And the Lin to Nash comparisons are a huge slap in the face to one of the best offensive PGs in the history of the game, imo.
In Nash's first years he wasn't setting the league on fire...he was kind of a late bloomer
when he played for Dallas he wasn’t considered a superstar, he gain superstar status in his second stint with the suns.
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by Jonny 4 F1ng3rs on Feb 17, 2012 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
Whew, didn't feel like faking it the rest of the season.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @Hawks.
Tweetness
One time for old time's sake:
What do you get when you get a Nugget doing the Chicken Dance??
Yep, a Chicken Nugget!!!
meh, whatever…dude’s an asshole anyway…
Good move for JR.
Maybe the Knicks can become relevant again now!
Hey Stern: What about us?
Oh yeah, that’s right, I forgot,
Stern told us to sit pat this year!!!
How stupid of me, right Jim B.
Good, now we won't see his sister duking it out with Metta...
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by Jonny 4 F1ng3rs on Feb 17, 2012 11:02 AM PST reply actions
Or trying to choke Jeanie Buss.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @Hawks.
Tweetness
Not a surprise
Woulda been nice since he’s better than what we have and a Smith/Glock backcourt would have been killer.
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by EmmCeee on Feb 17, 2012 11:24 AM PST via Android app reply actions
Didn't like him anyway!
I really want our Lakers to make a push for Deron Williams!
by Tha E on Feb 17, 2012 11:45 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Not to mention:
With the prospect of Fish retiring we’ll need to add some players that can add to the good juju of the team. Say what you will about Fish’s current skill level, the man is all heart. No jackasses on the roster, please.
Is that Basketball Reasonable enough?
Players have lots of interest in the Lakers
…but no one bites! I can’t blame them coz it’s not like we can give any money to people like JR smith or k-mart(but like u guys said, these two players are special brands of a-holes). I wonder if the front office will see this as motivation to move players or just sit and let this “asterisk season” slip away. I hope we don’t lose Pau for nothing in some salary dumping measure though!
Why is he making FP on our site?
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No its not. We stood no chance
Deep down you know.
Faith is remaining certain in the face of doubt. You’re not sure how it’s going to end, but you’re constantly of the belief that it will end the way you want it to and the way you always believed it to end, and that’s on top - Derek Fisher
Deep down.
Superficially, I knew. But it was a matter of discussion around here. Whether or not it should be news isn’t up to me. I won’t FP things like Kobe and Vanessa reconciling, but I thought this should be on FP (especially w/ no Credits). Pow!
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Faith is remaining certain in the face of doubt. You’re not sure how it’s going to end, but you’re constantly of the belief that it will end the way you want it to and the way you always believed it to end, and that’s on top - Derek Fisher
No. How did you know?
LOL
Faith is remaining certain in the face of doubt. You’re not sure how it’s going to end, but you’re constantly of the belief that it will end the way you want it to and the way you always believed it to end, and that’s on top - Derek Fisher
I know the type.
Loud as motorbike, but wouldn’t bust a grape in a fruit fight.
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Damn right...this pretty face needs no scars. Thank you very much
Faith is remaining certain in the face of doubt. You’re not sure how it’s going to end, but you’re constantly of the belief that it will end the way you want it to and the way you always believed it to end, and that’s on top - Derek Fisher
No. It means we are close to acquiring Deron Williams
Faith is remaining certain in the face of doubt. You’re not sure how it’s going to end, but you’re constantly of the belief that it will end the way you want it to and the way you always believed it to end, and that’s on top - Derek Fisher
Heist
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karma
Faith is remaining certain in the face of doubt. You’re not sure how it’s going to end, but you’re constantly of the belief that it will end the way you want it to and the way you always believed it to end, and that’s on top - Derek Fisher
i dont think its going to happen.
I think the Lakers are staying pat in the pg department this year. i can see them going after a free agent pg next summer (Nash, Brooks, Felton, A Miller, Billups, Heinrich). I know we cant offer more than the mini-mle, but we can offer them the ability to start for a contender. something most other teams cannot.
and i think the lakers do this as an attempt to get fish to retire. i dont think fish would really want to sit on the bench for an entire year.
"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung
Sign Agent Hibachi already!
People say he’ll disrupt our chemistry, but considering that he was willing to be a bench player in the Wizards after coming back from injury as to not disrupt the chemistry of the team, and also willing to take a pay cut so the team can get better players, I don’t think he’s as bad as people say.
And the gun situation, seems like a practical joke gone wrong since they were supposedly unloaded. And the other guy was the guy arrested for murder, while this one is working his way back to the NBA..
Give him a shot.
Where does all the JR Smith hate come from?
What has he done besides celebrate and show sum excitement while he’s playing? Artest has done much worse things but eh. We missed out on an improvement to the team. period.
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by EmmCeee on Feb 17, 2012 12:45 PM PST via Android app reply actions
Since when did sports hate become rational?
Faith is remaining certain in the face of doubt. You’re not sure how it’s going to end, but you’re constantly of the belief that it will end the way you want it to and the way you always believed it to end, and that’s on top - Derek Fisher
lol true
Most of em are just over the top ridiculous tho lol I dnt recall him ever doing anything over the top. Even his 3 pt celebration when he’s lighting it up is cool wit me. Hell we need some kind of excitement and personality on this team
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by EmmCeee on Feb 17, 2012 12:56 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
I wasn't crazy about the Ron Ron signing when it happened.
My words were “Say it ain’t so…”
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I hated losing Ariza but was glad we got him.
Wasnt thrilled about the contract at all
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by EmmCeee on Feb 17, 2012 1:08 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
I was okay with it until I saw that contract he was getting.
Three years and a team option, I was totally okay with. Five years and an ETO after the fourth? Yuck.
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Ron just came with so many question marks.
I saw the positives (and ran with them once I had to), but I was worried about which Ron we would get. I understood the need to get him. At the time, our comp for the title all had elite, big, strong SF’s. Paul Pierce, Melo, and LeBron.
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Yeah, I didn't predict he would decline so drastically offensively either.
I thought he would have to adjust to getting less possessions than his Sacramento and Houston days, but I at least thought that he would shoot at a decent rate and provide another perimeter scorer to complement Kobe. If we had that same Ron from ‘07-’08 and ‘08-’09, that’s hell of a team.
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Same here. Matt Barnes too.
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Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @Hawks.
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the lakers have now missed out on 4 free agents
0-4 pretty much says it all,nobody wants to come here
sign gilbert before he signs with the warriors
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The Knicks offered way more money and a bigger role than the Lakers.
Why on earth would this constitute “missing out” on a free agent? That he made a logical decision and went to the Knicks for the aforementioned reasons isn’t a black mark on the FO.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
What Ben said.
The Lakers can’t afford to pay more than the vet minimum.
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Which is a direct result of the FO and ridiculous contracts they've handed out.
Im sorry but 26-30 million a year for a player is outrageous, not to mention it severely handicaps a team in trying to improve. Which is exactly what we’re going thru now. Add to that the fact that we’ve given away 1st round picks which has left us ZERO young guys we could have developed and could have left us no need to hope a guy will take the vet min to sign with us. Ultimately the FO takes alot of the blame
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by EmmCeee on Feb 17, 2012 5:50 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Uh, what?
It has nothing to do with how much money is currently on the payroll. The Lakers couldn’t pay him more because they already burned the mini-MLE and there’s no other means of adding players for a team over the tax besides the minimum. If this was baseball and they could throw money at the problem, they would. Even if you cut Kobe’s salary in half and took Walton’s salary off the cap, we’d still be over the tax. Complaining about the Lakers not having the means to sign Smith is frankly somewhat ridiculous and is definitely barking up the wrong tree.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Ignoring the fact that the lakers couldnt sign ANYBODY worth anything is ridiculous
The offseason, now, next offseason, and the one after that. Its gonna b the same situation the next few years and that is a direct result of the FO whether you want to admit it or not
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by EmmCeee on Feb 17, 2012 6:04 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Its not about Smith
Its about being forced to take role players the caliber of what we have now simply because we dnt have any other options. Out of the guys we signed only 1 gets any pt. Waste of the limited resources we had signing Kapono and McRoberts
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by EmmCeee on Feb 17, 2012 6:11 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
After losing Lamar
McRoberts was a necessary signing worth $3m. Brown choosing not to play him is a different matter.
You’ve been citing Kapono’s contract (he got the veteran minimum) as a wasted resource because we weren’t able to sign Smith or Crawford which makes no sense. They weren’t available at that price. We had to fill the roster and Kapono was the cheapest playable option. All we would have saved by going cheaper and siging our other 2nd round draft picks like Ater Majok would have been some $600k which wouldn’t have helped us get anyone else since we’re not under the cap.
So if anything, the FO deserves credit for this offseason because they spent an extra $1.8million in salary and tax to get us Murphy and Kapono who can actually play in the NBA as opposed to no-name late second round picks.
FUCK DAVID STERN for vetoing destiny.
Smith wasn't available period at the time we signed Kapono since he was in China.
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Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @Hawks.
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It wouldn't necessarily have to be Smith
Its pretty much we cant pay anybody that can actually play.
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by EmmCeee on Feb 17, 2012 7:11 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
What, you're complaining about not having cap space?
No contending team has cap space right now or will in the near future sans Dallas (although we have $0 committed for 2014-15). Saying that we should given that we have three max-worthy players on the roster is rather ridiculous. If you’re complaining about not being under the tax to be able to use the full MLE, that’s equally unrealistic, seeing as we’d have to drop $22 million of payroll to make that possible and most contending teams will be dancing against the tax line (and thus unable to use the MLE since the CBA prohibits you from using it to go over the tax). So, for the most part, we’re competing against other contending teams for bench players at practically the same level. If your complaint is that we should just draft more effectively and get younger, I agree with that (although in that case, the only time you can really complain is the Toney Douglas trade in ’09) but it has little to do with whether we get free agents or not.
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I wouldnt exactly put us in the same sentence as the other contenders. Title contenders we are not
But The difference between the Lakers and any true contender is we have the worst bench in the league. period. That is squarely on the FO. No way around it. Bad contracts.FO. No draft picks.FO. Bad trades.FO. Take whatever route you wanna take and it all leads back to the FO.
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by EmmCeee on Feb 17, 2012 7:36 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
While the FO does deserve a level of blame for mad decision-making, you're way overemphasizing things.
Bad contracts.FO.
Besides Walton (who will be expiring next year and an asset) and MWP (who will get the amnesty axe), not really that much to complain about here. Maybe Blake for simply the length of his deal, but given his play now, it’s not really an item of complaint and he expires at the same time as everyone else. If you’re going to complain about Kobe’s deal, that’s an unavoidable consequence of having a franchise player for that many years who is going to play for so long and is basically never going to take a pay cut. Is he being paid too much? Certainly. Is it cap killing? Not really considering that the rest of our core is signed for the same duration and our chance of having cap space during that period before 2014 is zero regardless even if Kobe was taking less money (like $20 million/year). Bynum was going to get the max as a RFA regardless and it’s hard to say that Pau didn’t deserve close to the max either.
No draft picks.FO.
With the exception of the Douglas trade, which I’ve harped on more than anyone, I fail to see how you’re reproaching the FO for this one. Two of the firsts were traded for Pau, so that’s beyond complaint, and Kupchak has done a fair job drafting in the second round. Ebanks looks decent, Goudelock has been good, and Morris is a nice developmental project.
Bad trades.FO.
With the exception of the Odom trade, which we still have to see play out before we make a full judgment on this, there hasn’t really been a “bad” trade Kupchak has made sans the Kwame-Butler deal and if you think he could have gotten more for Shaq.
But again, you’re barking up the wrong tree really, and I’d argue that the bench is turning around given that the Blake/Goudelock backcourt seems to have given the bench some much-needed structure this season at least. If the FO fails to improve at the deadline, then sure, we can throw some more opprobrium at them, but putting ALL of the blame right now on them isn’t really fair.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
The thing is it isn't 2014
Whatever space we have then doesnt have any bearing on the present and fixing the flaws this team currently has. The LO trade was bad. Trading a 1st and Sasha for Joe Smith was also bad.
I dnt share your optimism regarding the bench. Their better performances have come against bad teams and even then they are few and far between. Vs good teams they will continue to get worked but it is what it is.
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by EmmCeee on Feb 18, 2012 2:25 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Raymond Felton is in the doghouse @ $7.5 mil for only this year. Wow!
Stephen Jackson and Brandon Jennings could be pursued for World Peace, Blake and a 2nd rounder.
But,
I’m sure our FO isn’t interested in any of those 3 players.
Nick Young only makes 3.6 for the remainder of this season.
Again,
I’m sure our FO isn’t interested in that scenario either…LOL..
There is no way in hell the Bucks trade Jennings for that kind of offer.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Bucks Ain't That Stupid
Especially with Jennings being involved they are would want a lot more especially with Artest being useless on offense they wouldn’t pull that trigger would be fun in NBA 2k12 though
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the bucks wouldn't take that trade for World Peace, Ron Artest, Blake and 1000 2nd round picks lol
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by EmmCeee on Feb 17, 2012 5:56 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
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