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Around SBN: Yankees Deny Rumors That Team Is For Sale

According to Yahoo! Sports' Adrian Wojnarowski, Mitch Kupchak spent the day observing a workout from Gilbert Arenas, who looked good, although no signing is imminent.

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by Plan9FOS on Feb 12, 2012 7:19 PM PST reply actions  

I say go for it

I think that trade and being thrown into the mix of all those orlando gaurds that play similar cause him more prob on top if the injury. Plus svg instantly said I dont care who we sign jameer is our guy that could be kind of deflating

by Ballinsohard on Feb 12, 2012 7:22 PM PST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Do it.

I’m sick of our bench sucking. Anything to spark the team. I’d rather have JR Smith but if we can’t do that, Gilbert will have to do.

What is the nature of your thoughts, gentlemen, when you say "fuddle duddle" or something like that?

by RudeMood19 on Feb 12, 2012 7:57 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

I'd rather have JR too

but he might cost too much money. Arenas is better than nothing I guess…

by LAL32 on Feb 12, 2012 11:55 PM PST up reply actions  

ill take "agent zero" anyday...

over fish, and over the “rumored” want of a certain 36 yr old pg, thats been out of the league for awhile now…his name? A.I….aka…allen iverson. no thanks mitch!! lets move on here…!

by Mark Jaramillo on Feb 13, 2012 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

And why couldnt we pursue both of these players....

"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung

by LakersFoEva on Feb 13, 2012 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Um Celtics last year

Shaq, KG, Wheelchair, Ray Allen, and Rondo all in their primes? Greatest team of all time. ’Nuff said

"These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."

-Bill Belichick

by Lakriots on Feb 12, 2012 8:56 PM PST up reply actions  

No, what about the 2004 Laker team

Kobe, Shaq, Malone, and Payton beats all.

by nitotech on Feb 12, 2012 8:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow

Just when I thought Lakriots was right you bring up 04. I almost cleared that season out of my memory because of all the injuries/failure that year… Had they been healthy AND in their primes??…. Holy shit that would be amazing

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by Hdg23 on Feb 12, 2012 10:54 PM PST up reply actions  

kobe, shaq, malone and payton all in their primes? that team would implode

by LAL32 on Feb 12, 2012 11:52 PM PST up reply actions  

We need a legit chucker off the bench

and I highly doubt we can afford J.R. since he’ll be asking too high of a price. So I’d give Arenas a shot with a whole different atmosphere and with Kobe at the helm.

"If you’re afraid to fail, then you’re probably going to fail. You know what I mean? Fuck it." -- Kobe "Black Mamba" Bryant

by jXn on Feb 12, 2012 7:59 PM PST reply actions  

Biggest offer on the market for Smith is the Knicks' $2.5 million room exception.

So it’s not THAT much more than the minimum. If we have a chance at signing him, I could see Kupchak cutting Kapono or similar.

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by Ben R on Feb 12, 2012 9:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Could the Clips get him? they seem to be getting everyone

by LAL32 on Feb 12, 2012 11:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Why would kupcek cut kapono before

The date you dont have to garauntee kaponos contract. If he cut him now he still has to pay him, so I doubt kupchek believs he can get him or that he’s worth it

by Ballinsohard on Feb 13, 2012 4:34 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Kapono's contract is guaranteed I think.

Its Caracter, Ebanks, Glock and Morris are the only non-guaranteed contracts before last Friday with Caracter the only one who got cut.

by BoneCruncher24 on Feb 13, 2012 7:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Really? Why would they garauntee kapono?

I see the hope that he would knock down shots but to garauntee him, im not sure I would of done that

by Ballinsohard on Feb 13, 2012 9:12 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

is he still going to be effective without the touches?

He should be 4th option at best. Imagine all the times we yell at kobe for taking bad shots and taking shots away from bynum/gasol…except it’ll be worse b/c it’ll be arenas taking the shot rather than kobe. If getting arenas means that fisher is playing less, then i’m fine with it. But arenas will probably just take time away from glock.

by no stance on Feb 12, 2012 8:12 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Can he play the 2 off the bench?

At this point, put Fish’s ass on the bench, start blake & have glock be the backup 1. and then have arenas be the backup 2.

having fish and mwp on the floor at the same time is playing 3 vs 5, cuz those two dont do shit but miss shots, kill our offense, and play some occasional defense.

"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung

by LakersFoEva on Feb 12, 2012 8:27 PM PST reply actions  

don't hesitate Mitch

just go ahead and sign him. It really cant get any worse.

by shawism on Feb 12, 2012 8:32 PM PST reply actions  

do it

i dont see how our bench could be any worse

by Xtreme Beans on Feb 12, 2012 8:45 PM PST reply actions  

Go for it.

"They’re a very special group of men. Cherish them, you will not see their like again."

by chaucer on Feb 12, 2012 8:50 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Steal or status quo

Seriously. If we sign him for veteran’s minimum, he could either be a steal or continue the sucky bench play we are now (and cut him if needed).

Nothing to lose at this point.

by getAcLew on Feb 12, 2012 8:51 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

if it's gonna happen, it'll happen fast, right?

Nothing would be served by delaying it, the season’s not getting any shorter and he’d have to get worked into a system that’s already new by definition. I haven’t been an Arenas fan in recent years but if there’s ever a season to draw a wild card, this is it. I’d roll the dice.

Once again, it's much too late.

by Dave M.. on Feb 12, 2012 8:54 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah, if we're going to do something, might as well be now.

Give the FO and the coaching staff the maximum amount of time to evaluate him. Come March 1, the trade market opens up and more options become available.

@brosales12

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by Ben R on Feb 12, 2012 9:29 PM PST up reply actions  

CANT WAIT

the lakers really need SOME production from the PG position. Arenas will have to understand that his role is to penetrate and create shots for other when kobe lets him have the ball, and to stand in the corner and shoot 3s when kobe is doing the creating. Arenas is still going to be horrible on defense, but maybe we won’t literally have every PG in the league having CAREER nights against us

"Work before Glory"

by wickedskillz on Feb 12, 2012 9:01 PM PST reply actions  

I'm sorry but blake fricking sucks

I think Kobe scares him

"Work before Glory"

by wickedskillz on Feb 12, 2012 9:02 PM PST reply actions  

this is true

but at least you don’t get the impression that fisher is not playing up to his potential, or that he could be doing better.

"Work before Glory"

by wickedskillz on Feb 12, 2012 9:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Really?

He plays like a perfectly serviceable backup point. It’s hard to complain with his play.

@brosales12

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu

by Ben R on Feb 12, 2012 9:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I just think he doesn't play up to his potential

He misses passes to the post when Gasol/Bynum have position, he passes up open jump shots, his 3pt shooting is much too inconsistent, he consistently shrinks from big moments. Plus, he can’t penetrate. This is not even mentioning his defense, guys having carer nights on him is not cool. He may be OK as a 10-13 minutes per game back-up, but I don’t see him stepping up to claim a bigger role.

"Work before Glory"

by wickedskillz on Feb 12, 2012 9:35 PM PST up reply actions  

almost nothing to lose by signing him

why not?

Quality is our dignity. Service is our lift.

by LOOOeee on Feb 12, 2012 9:07 PM PST reply actions  

JR probably out of our price range

Chandler seems like he’s returning to the Nuggets, BUT he would be a GREAT piece to have.

Quality is our dignity. Service is our lift.

by LOOOeee on Feb 12, 2012 9:28 PM PST up reply actions  

arenas used be really good

did injuries do in his career or did he just get paid then stop trying?

Another Devin Harris?

by Joey Joe on Feb 12, 2012 9:28 PM PST reply actions  

Yes, no, no.

@brosales12

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by Ben R on Feb 12, 2012 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I think injuries did him pretty rough

he always seemed more like a raw talent guy than a hard worker to me, so I guess losing his first step and elevation hurt him a lot. Unless the transfusion therapy worked miracles, he’s probably going to have be a lot more cerebral if he comes back, kind of like an andre miller type role maybe.

"Work before Glory"

by wickedskillz on Feb 12, 2012 9:38 PM PST up reply actions  

"slim"

and “explosive”

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 12, 2012 9:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I just dont get how he could go from...

averaging 17.3 ppg on 40% shooting, with 3.3 rebs, 5.6 assists & 1.4 steals in 21 games with washington

to…

averaging 8.0 ppg on 34% shooting, with 2.4 rebs, 3.2 assists & 0.9 steals in 49 games with Orlando

all in the same year.

just doesnt make sense. He has to be able to help our bench somehow, I just dont really want Glock loosing minutes. I really wish MB would just glue Fisher to the bench (unless we need him with .4 seconds left on the clock) and woudl start Blake. Bring Glock and Arenas off the bench. We will be undersized but its better than what we got right now. Arenas is still 6-4 and should be able to hold his own against most 2’s.

"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung

by LakersFoEva on Feb 12, 2012 10:01 PM PST reply actions  

I saw some of the games he was in when he was with Orlando...

I think it was the style over there that messed him up, not a good fit. He did not have the ball in his hands much to create and was just another spot up three point shooter with the Magic in those games and not very good at knocking them down consistently— (50 out of 182 for 27%).

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by mjtig on Feb 13, 2012 12:06 AM PST up reply actions  

well,

he would definitely be ball dominant with our bench unit. nobody besides glock can attempt to create their own shot from the perimeter.

"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung

by LakersFoEva on Feb 13, 2012 7:05 AM PST up reply actions  

good point

"Booze takes a lot of time and effort if you're going to do a good job with it."
― Raymond Carver, Where I'm Calling From: New and Selected Stories

GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!

by mjtig on Feb 13, 2012 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Better than MWP's .09% or whatever the fuck he's at.

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by SoCalGal on Feb 13, 2012 8:31 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL, I agree--put a fork in MWP, he is done imo...

he already hit the old man wall and he might be bored on top of it, time for the ref job.

"Booze takes a lot of time and effort if you're going to do a good job with it."
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GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!

by mjtig on Feb 13, 2012 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

if he continues to play like this for the rest of the year,

they better give him the amnesty axe.

"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung

by LakersFoEva on Feb 13, 2012 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

He's practically guaranteed to get amnestied in the offseason unless he goes on a ridiculous tear for the rest of the year.

That might end his career as well. Not sure even other contenders are willing to deal with him, especially since Boston, the most likely place to take a flyer on him, will probably break up their core this offseason.

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To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu

by Ben R on Feb 13, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I think some teams who arent hurting on offense, and need a defensive stopper,

may take him for the veteran minimum. he’s still useful on that end at least.

"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung

by LakersFoEva on Feb 13, 2012 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

i dont get how Ebanks got glued to the bench

after being named the starter on opening night?

He can actually knock down shots and, like barnes, makes cuts in the offense. was his defense that bad?

"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung

by LakersFoEva on Feb 13, 2012 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Blake's not good either

Compared to Fish maybe (particularly on defense), but he misses wide open jump shots too and isn’t all that great a passer. He’s a serviceable backup, but he’s no starter. I actually kind of want G-Lock to start at the point. Don’t really have much to lose right? Fisher was given the chance as a young point guard out of the draft and he’s made a fantastic, memorable Lakers career out of it. Give Goudelock a shot.

Never happening though. Fisher will start every single game this season and every single playoff game unless they make some sort of legitimate acquisition. So, just hope that he somehow finds a Fountain of Youth and figures out how to hit shots again.

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by nyyrocks29 on Feb 14, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

So many of the "go for it" comments are rec'd, I think Gilbert has been here reading and reccing.

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by SoCalGal on Feb 12, 2012 10:24 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

LOL

"Booze takes a lot of time and effort if you're going to do a good job with it."
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GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!

by mjtig on Feb 12, 2012 10:40 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

No.

If we do sign him, I expect a lot of game threads with:

“wtf Arenas?”

“Seriously Gil?”

“Our bench still sucks”.

by AV. on Feb 12, 2012 10:41 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

lol, good point

but it doesn’t get any worst than this:

"wtf Luke?"

"Seriously Luke?"

"Our bench still sucks".

by froZ3n on Feb 12, 2012 10:48 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Is Luke still on the team?

Are you sure?
Has anyone actually seen him?

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by Plan9FOS on Feb 13, 2012 5:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, but if he sucks, we can bench him

It he works out, we really, really help in the backcourt

At the minimum, not much to loose

by neokoros on Feb 13, 2012 1:59 AM PST up reply actions  

ok, im pulling the trigger

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by Dr Jerry Buss on Feb 12, 2012 10:47 PM PST reply actions  

Do it, Doc.

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @Knicks.
Tweetness

by SoCalGal on Feb 12, 2012 10:50 PM PST up reply actions  

lmao

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by LakerAce on Feb 12, 2012 11:04 PM PST up reply actions  

awesome

although it frightens me that you use SS&R as a scouting tool.

Don’t go to the fanposts.

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by bluexfalcon on Feb 12, 2012 11:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Go for it.

We can only offer him the vet’s min, anyway. It’s not like he’s a major financial liability or anything. If he fails to produce, we can just bury him on the bench or waive him.

"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."

"You're welcome." -Kobe

by LakerAce on Feb 12, 2012 11:05 PM PST reply actions  

Would you like to address it before the trade deadline?

Mitch:

Well, if there were a way for us to get a 25-year-old, All-Star, ball-handling guard we’d love to do it … but that’s not likely in February. So you look at other alternatives, and see if it’s better than what you have. That’s all.

At this point, can it really get worse than having Fisher on the court?

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by Jelly Bean on Feb 12, 2012 11:09 PM PST reply actions  

This is hilarious. Fuck this team is deserate.
Allen Iverson, who sources indicated the Lakers had some interest in as long as he was willing to go to the NBA Developmental League for a few weeks

Honestly, I would love for them to get Rafer A.

THE BANDWAGON: Championship? lol you’ve gotta b kidding. - Emmceee /we aren't winning anything this year man - BlueXfalcon / We arent winning anything this year - Lakergirl / we aren’t winning anything this yurrrrr - Tkuang /I expect them to make it past the first round, but I will be very happy if they make it past the second.- Gil M. / We aren’t gonna win anything this year, dude - Aethereal / don't think we will win anything this year. Seriously-CLDPC / I’m not expecting something big from this Lakers team this season - Yoshifan

by Jelly Bean on Feb 12, 2012 11:24 PM PST reply actions  

Noooo! :(

but if FO really considered Allen Iverson? I doubt

Lakers FO really knows what it’s doing

by froZ3n on Feb 12, 2012 11:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I thimk most teams that have a need at gaurd around the league

Have inquired about iverson, the only dofference is this is the Lakers and everybodys name gets attatched to the lakers, im sure miami and chicago asked about him too but it didnt make the news

by Ballinsohard on Feb 13, 2012 4:42 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Miami maybe, but Chicago has no need for him.

Watson is a perfectly good backup.

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To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu

by Ben R on Feb 13, 2012 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Sign him

let the championships be glorious

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by Czheck on Feb 12, 2012 11:54 PM PST reply actions  

Nay

He got one former Laker guard in trouble, I don’t want any current Laker guards being “former” Lakers…

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by Paul Udani on Feb 12, 2012 11:58 PM PST reply actions  

Oh you mean

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Kevin Sandusky: What?
Kirk Lazarus: You a dude that don’t know what dude he is!
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by neokoros on Feb 13, 2012 2:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Such a funny movie.

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @Knicks.
Tweetness

by SoCalGal on Feb 13, 2012 8:32 AM PST up reply actions  

How about?

Using trade exception for Ariza and first round pick for Sessions?

http://twitter.com/lalnever

by never. on Feb 13, 2012 12:05 AM PST reply actions  

Need exception for Sessions

AMMO carried the Lakers to back-2-back titles and we couldn't even get LEWIS MONROE for him...

by Q.Calloway25 on Feb 13, 2012 1:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I dont get it

You guys saw how inconsistant LO was whrn he was here, even in his 6thMOY year he was inconsistant when we needed him most agaimst dallas but everybody is trippin like he would have made a difference this year. But then the lakers look at a guy who had 1bad year playing w/crazy SVG in a system that made him a spot up shooter only and now were saying he’s finished? It was 1 freeking year. Sign Gil and quit playinh

by Ballinsohard on Feb 13, 2012 4:47 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Also, think about this

Do you think orlando would have amnestied Gil if his contract wasnt so large and if they did already have all those other gaurds playing good ball and getting paid ALOT less money? I think they would have loved to keep him if he only cost $1.4 mil

by Ballinsohard on Feb 13, 2012 5:01 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

he averaged almost 18 ppg in the first 21 games of the year, last season with washington.

he’s gotta be able to offer something. even if its 10ppg, im pretty sure he will be our 4th leading scorer, LOL.

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by LakersFoEva on Feb 13, 2012 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

10ppg would make MJ for our terrihorrid bench

AMMO carried the Lakers to back-2-back titles and we couldn't even get LEWIS MONROE for him...

by Q.Calloway25 on Feb 13, 2012 10:28 PM PST up reply actions  

make him*

AMMO carried the Lakers to back-2-back titles and we couldn't even get LEWIS MONROE for him...

by Q.Calloway25 on Feb 13, 2012 10:28 PM PST up reply actions  


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