Lakers 94, Raptors 92: Kobe Bryant Rescues Lakers From Kobe Bryant
by C.A. Clark on Feb 12, 2012 12:53 PM PST
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PrintIn a game in which the Los Angeles Lakers led by as much as 18 points, the purple and gold needed every bit of a heroic last minute of basketball from their fearless leader, Kobe Bryant. Kobe had six points, a steal, and an assist in the final minute to turn a 4 point deficit into a 2 point win. And Kobe needed to be fearless in order to accomplish the feat, because the Lakers were only in the position of needing that kind of heroic effort because Kobe Bryant put them there with a slew of terrible 4th quarter possessions in which Bryant dominated the ball. From the six minute mark, the Raptors went on a 12-2 run while Kobe missed 5 straight shots of increasing difficulty, and without this particularly brutal stretch of Hero ball, the Lakers might never have needed the actual Hero ball at the end.
Of course, the Lakers might never have needed it either if their effort wasn't so predictable after building up a big lead. The Lakers enjoyed one of their strongest shooting halves of the season in the 1st half, with outside shots being made by all the folks you wouldn't count with your lunch money on the line. Metta World Peace, Matt Barnes, Troy Murphy, Derek Fisher, Steve Blake, everybody on the team was hitting buckets in droves. They were up by double digits throughout the first half, until Toronto closed the gap at half time, and the predictably sluggish Lakers allowed Toronto right back in the ball game in the second stanza. The end was legendarily bad, and then it was legendarily good, and then it was legendarily strange, as Toronto picked up a rare (and deserved) 5 second violation on the in bounds play when the Laker lead was just 1 with 4 seconds to play.
In the end, the Lakers needed the win to salvage what has been a tough and disappointing road trip, and they got it. Is all forgiven of Kobe for the terrible lead in to the end game, because of the end game? That's a decision every Lakers fan has to make for themselves.
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Title explains everything I'm thinking.
Had 2.3 heart attacks watching this.
"They should go into a box and one--put the box on Kobe and the one on everyone else" - Jeff Van Gundy
Kobe, how do you rate kobe's performance at the end of this game?
Maybe I'll just fade into Bolivian
by Uncle Leo on Feb 12, 2012 12:58 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
haha, when was this?
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
"You're welcome." -Kobe
2008 All Star Weekend.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @Knicks.
Tweetness
I think it Nate Robinson's.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @Knicks.
Tweetness
The picture said it all
Kobe was hungry
"If you’re afraid to fail, then you’re probably going to fail. You know what I mean? Fuck it." -- Kobe "Black Mamba" Bryant
Kobe says "you're welcome" to himself, LOL.
"Please tell me some of these stories about Los Angeles being the basketball capital of the world." - Red Auerbach
"质量是我们的尊严。服务是我们的电梯。" ("Quality is our dignity. Service is our lift.")
"make em eat your bubbles" - Cup Noodles
i was jus thinkin that n then read it
"If you’re afraid to fail, then you’re probably going to fail. You know what I mean? Fuck it." -- Kobe "Black Mamba" Bryant
I'm jus happy kobe didnt have to play 40+
"If you’re afraid to fail, then you’re probably going to fail. You know what I mean? Fuck it." -- Kobe "Black Mamba" Bryant
our bigs on the other hand are gettin a hell of a burn
bynum almost 40 and pau 36
"If you’re afraid to fail, then you’re probably going to fail. You know what I mean? Fuck it." -- Kobe "Black Mamba" Bryant
Was the five second violation really deserved?
The Toronto guys counted out loud on the replay so I’m not sure.
it was really close but they made the right call
"If you’re afraid to fail, then you’re probably going to fail. You know what I mean? Fuck it." -- Kobe "Black Mamba" Bryant
He started the countdown about 2 seconds after they got the ball to inbound
And his “seconds” were a good 1.5 seconds each.
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
"You're welcome." -Kobe
Stu counted to 9 seconds before the call was made, so...
"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden
"I never met a person from whom I did not learn something."- John Wooden
"If I were ever prosecuted for my religion, I truly hope there would be enough evidence to convict me."- John Wooden
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going by Ace's count, he's right on target
2 secs + (1.5 × 5)= 9.5 seconds he held the ball looking to inbound it before the 5 second call was made
"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden
"I never met a person from whom I did not learn something."- John Wooden
"If I were ever prosecuted for my religion, I truly hope there would be enough evidence to convict me."- John Wooden
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Crazy that it came down to that.
"Please tell me some of these stories about Los Angeles being the basketball capital of the world." - Red Auerbach
"质量是我们的尊严。服务是我们的电梯。" ("Quality is our dignity. Service is our lift.")
"make em eat your bubbles" - Cup Noodles
Yes it was.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @Knicks.
Tweetness
So sayeth the official stats.
"Please tell me some of these stories about Los Angeles being the basketball capital of the world." - Red Auerbach
"质量是我们的尊严。服务是我们的电梯。" ("Quality is our dignity. Service is our lift.")
"make em eat your bubbles" - Cup Noodles
damn, we need someone to mess up Kobe's wrist again
He can’t play well healthy anymore
He needs the pain
calderon man ...30 on 13-18...
"If you’re afraid to fail, then you’re probably going to fail. You know what I mean? Fuck it." -- Kobe "Black Mamba" Bryant
Alot of jumpers too, dude was on fire
by Fin Fan Forever on Feb 12, 2012 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
Mas que caliente.
"Please tell me some of these stories about Los Angeles being the basketball capital of the world." - Red Auerbach
"质量是我们的尊严。服务是我们的电梯。" ("Quality is our dignity. Service is our lift.")
"make em eat your bubbles" - Cup Noodles
I don't even ask for a good PG.
Just one that can defend the opponent’s PG will do.
fixed
but fish is clutch sometimesyears
how you doin'
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by bluexfalcon on Feb 12, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
in 2097
after Derek Fisher Jr. retires
by shawism on Feb 12, 2012 1:06 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Prime Directives
1. Stop 3 on1 fast breaks
2. Keep toe off line
3. Shutdown opposing PG
4. Any attempt to arrest a senior officer of OCP results in shutdown
Maybe I'll just fade into Bolivian
pleeeeaasseeeee our PG situation is driving me crazy
"Work before Glory"
by wickedskillz on Feb 12, 2012 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
Who's playing PG for Harvard?
Maybe we’ll get it right the next time.
And to think
Lakers made a bigger offer for him than the Warriors did. But at the time they said he wanted to play closer to his hometown. I can’t believe it, he turned down an opportunity to play for the Lakers (where his playing time competition would be Steve Blake and Derek Fisher) and chose for the Warriors, adding another 6’3" guard to a lineup with two guys who are 6’3" and deserves lots of playing time. It’s like genius country boys good enough to go to Harvard deciding to stay in their hometown for college.
by What should I do? on Feb 12, 2012 7:22 PM PST up reply actions
He made the right choice
the way things worked out. What he is in NY right now would NEVER have happened for him on Team Kobe. I’m absolutely certain he had no way of knowing that — but that’s the way it turned out. (Much to our chagrin).
Life. Funny. Despite the Harvard education.
we kept derozan to 2-13 so that was nice
"If you’re afraid to fail, then you’re probably going to fail. You know what I mean? Fuck it." -- Kobe "Black Mamba" Bryant
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how you doin'
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Ha!
Even if the chicken and yams weren’t there to pull lg away, jXn had this one locked up.
"Please tell me some of these stories about Los Angeles being the basketball capital of the world." - Red Auerbach
"质量是我们的尊严。服务是我们的电梯。" ("Quality is our dignity. Service is our lift.")
"make em eat your bubbles" - Cup Noodles
wow J is up by a 100 comments!
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by crushmybones on Feb 12, 2012 5:52 PM PST up reply actions
44% from 3
gess we grew tired of feeding from the bottom of the shit bucket
"If you’re afraid to fail, then you’re probably going to fail. You know what I mean? Fuck it." -- Kobe "Black Mamba" Bryant
DAFUQ???
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
"You're welcome." -Kobe
Fish/Morris/Barnes/McBobs for Calderon.
Someone offer a rational explanation for how we can convince Toronto to do that?
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Interesting thing about Fish is that if you send him to a rebuilding team, the chance of him not exercising his PO skyrockets.
So for all intents and purposes, you can consider him a (small) expiring.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Doesn't Calderon have disgusting defense?
"Work before Glory"
by wickedskillz on Feb 12, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
More or less. Can't be any worse than Fish though.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Dear God no
Rafer Alston, more of a true point guard than Iverson, was recently signed to the Los Angeles D-Fenders, the Lakers’ NBA Developmental League affiliate. Smith contends Alston and the Lakers have talked about promoting the 35-year-old former Rockets guard to the parent club at some point in the future. There is no timeline in place for the move, however.
I can't believe it
The PuertoRican Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Feb 12, 2012 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
O, thank god its not true then
Amare is out of NY, Kobe may demand a trade, and Howard to LA was basically a done deal
by Fin Fan Forever on Feb 12, 2012 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
Broussard is like Stephen A-lite
So yes, this is probably garbage…
If you can't laugh at yourself... laugh at someone else
by x Nightwing x on Feb 12, 2012 2:06 PM PST up reply actions
Screaming A. Smith
"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden
"I never met a person from whom I did not learn something."- John Wooden
"If I were ever prosecuted for my religion, I truly hope there would be enough evidence to convict me."- John Wooden
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Stephen A. Smith.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
speaking of old man...
there are rumors that the lakers are interested in allen iverson! WHAT!? the lakers that desperate? to go with another old pg? man i hope not.
by Mark Jaramillo on Feb 12, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions
blow an 18 point lead on the road
and still win
by shawism on Feb 12, 2012 1:19 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
At this point NBA point guards need to be donating at least 1% of their salaries to the Lakers for letting them inflate their stats on a nightly basis…
by Shazam! on Feb 12, 2012 1:19 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Kobe on key 5-second violation that upset Raptors: “I didn’t go to college, but I know how to count.”
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @Knicks.
Tweetness
by SoCalGal on Feb 12, 2012 1:30 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
LOL
"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden
"I never met a person from whom I did not learn something."- John Wooden
"If I were ever prosecuted for my religion, I truly hope there would be enough evidence to convict me."- John Wooden
Main twitter
SBN twitter
LOL
We found love in a hopeless place
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by crushmybones on Feb 12, 2012 5:52 PM PST up reply actions
'nuff said
KEVIN DING @KevinDing
Mike Brown on Kobe’s clutch shots at the end: “That’s who he is.”
"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden
"I never met a person from whom I did not learn something."- John Wooden
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Henry Abbott vehemently disagrees.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @Knicks.
Tweetness
all i have to say to mr. abbot is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMqHJrdXj0s&feature=related
Maybe I'll just fade into Bolivian
Lmfao that is so evil
What is the nature of your thoughts, gentlemen, when you say "fuddle duddle" or something like that?
The coaching staff does deserve credit for that timeout at the two-minute mark
They went away from the Kobe iso-plays, as our possessions went like this after the timeout: Pau to Drew for a dunk, Kobe for a three on a catch and shoot, Kobe steal and assist to MWP for a layup, Kobe catches inbounds pass on the right wing and takes two dribbles toward the baseline for an open jumper (one of his favorite plays). They also deserve credit for keeping Fish on the bench for the final 18 minutes. Virtually all of Calderon’s jumpers with Fish guarding him were not even remotely contested, so he was feeling it in the 4th when he hit all those contested jumpers over Blake.
by The Dude Abides on Feb 12, 2012 1:57 PM PST reply actions
I was there!!
I was so pissed when it was 90-86 but I didn’t give up hope. My section had a lot of Kobe fans but I can say I was the only true Lakers fan. I was so nervous before Kobe hit that game-winner, it would’ve been near cataclysmic to blow a 17 point lead to a 9-19 team, regardless of the fact it was on their home court. I went nuts after he hit it though, and how perfect was that shot, nothing but net.
What a great first ever Lakers game!
What is the nature of your thoughts, gentlemen, when you say "fuddle duddle" or something like that?
nice! glad to hear your first lakers experience was a good one
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
"You're welcome." -Kobe
Now I gotta head down to Staples one of these days...
The next closest city to Toronto with an NBA team is Detroit (meh) or Cleveland (bleh) so I suppose those are viable options too.
What is the nature of your thoughts, gentlemen, when you say "fuddle duddle" or something like that?
Glad you enjoyed it!
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @Knicks.
Tweetness
If I started "Get new Lakers PG" as a causes thing on facebook
would you donate?
"Work before Glory"
by wickedskillz on Feb 12, 2012 2:21 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
i'd only donate if it's made into a tv ad with sarah mclachlan singing soulfully to close ups of derek fisher lookin sad
Maybe I'll just fade into Bolivian
by Uncle Leo on Feb 12, 2012 2:29 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
All 5 of Lakers' road wins have come in the last possession. Please Lakers, I just want one comfortable road win.
http://twitter.com/lalnever
aside from that, i want good shooting percentage kobe games with it
"No one wins forever. Only thing that matters is how you face it when the cards don't come up your way. I'm not afraid." - Spider-Man (Amazing Spider-Man #475)
"If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world." - C.S. Lewis
"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess." - Kobe Bryant
Man i just read Abbots name in the comments and for some reason this song came to my mind, i wonder if kobe sings this to him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my7sxZ0KfHU
"If you're a basketball player, you've got to shoot" - Oscar Robertson
No spoilers....I am just now watching the game which I recorded. : )
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Following my Twitter TL,
the game seemed like it was going the opposite direction of losing the lead before Kobe started chucking. Something about Pau being 1-8 after a hot start and Bynum being shut down by JAMAAL MAGLOIRE. Literally floored myself on the plane when I saw a tweet for Jamaal Magloire stabilizing things for Toronto. This is the same dude who was let go in favor of EDDY CURRY by the Heat. lol.
Anyway, my TL flipped script all of a sudden to the Kobe is ruining things meme. I just wanna kno since ya’ll was able to watch, what he ruined since it didn’t seem from any reports that there was any rhythm for the Lakers that was ruined or that anyone else but the reserves really played well after the first quarter
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Don't Forget To Change Your Sig Tomorrow Since We're Playing Boston, SCG
The whole Kobe thing more has to do with his shot selection
Started 2-2 in the 4th (good shots), missed his next 6 shots (to me 4/5 were bad, 1 was good) and then finished 2-2 with again much better shots. So he didn’t ruin anything, but his shot selection for a crucial part of the game wasn’t helping and may have sped up the process of the Raptors coming back. But in the end when it matters the most, Kobe delivered so you can’t complain too much.
by Fin Fan Forever on Feb 12, 2012 8:29 PM PST up reply actions
gotcha
it just seemed weird to have the Kobe narrative strike up when Jamaal Magloire is in my TL as holding the Lakers bigs in check
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Don't Forget To Change Your Sig Tomorrow Since We're Playing Boston, SCG
He didn't ruin anything.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @Knicks.
Tweetness
Ridiculous.
how you doin'
Twitter: @bluefalcon916
by bluexfalcon on Feb 12, 2012 11:10 PM PST up reply actions
lol 5 straight hero ball misses tend to ruin things
The fact that he made the last second shot doesnt make errthang ok. The last second shot was jus air freshener masking the stink of hero ball. This has been a trend except we actually pulled it out today.
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by EmmCeee on Feb 12, 2012 11:31 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
The thing is, and again going by twitter time
and play by play. Bynum was terrible in the second half and Pau was terrible in the second half and everyone was complaining about them. So, how did those shots ruin everything if everything had already fallen apart?
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Don't Forget To Change Your Sig Tomorrow Since We're Playing Boston, SCG
After a great 1st quarter by Pau he kinda disappeared.
Bynum struggled once MAGLOIRE was subbed in. The team struggled against the zone which didn’t surprise me anymore. There were moments in the 4th quarter where Kobe is just going iso instead of running the offense. He missed 5 or 6 consecutive shots.
by BoneCruncher24 on Feb 13, 2012 8:43 AM PST up reply actions
From the in game threads cuz i couldnt watch either and thas the next best thing
We had the lead in the 4th until those 5 straight iso misses. Then it took alot of ineptitude on the raptors to blowup then kobe finally hit tha gw. Went from ruins to a win jus like that lol
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by EmmCeee on Feb 13, 2012 9:08 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
WE STOLE IT FAIR AND SQUARE!!!!
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @Knicks.
Tweetness
This line of reasoning seems faulty
they had a 4 point lead. If we had lost a game like that, would you say the other team had stolen the W from us?
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Don't Forget To Change Your Sig Tomorrow Since We're Playing Atlanta, SCG
lol always the thinker MM
we didn’t deserve this W, but it fell in our laps and we took it.
how you doin'
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win is a win
was glad to wake up this morning and read that the lakers won :)
good start!
We found love in a hopeless place
IN GLOCK -- lakergirl
Just heard lakers worked out arenas
And he lookes slim and explosive
by Ballinsohard on Feb 12, 2012 6:34 PM PST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Smith is gonna want too much money
its a lot of teams that want him and some can offer him that money.
by Ballinsohard on Feb 12, 2012 7:17 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
why not both?
"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung
I'm up for anything at this point
by E-ROC on Feb 12, 2012 7:06 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Listening to kobe on how he would want to play with LeBron as he is better fit for him
got me thinking, if it was kobe and lebron in LA, that would be unstoppable.
Lakers have $0 committed to anyone on the roster during the 2014 offseason.
LeBron can become a free agent then, as can Wade, Bosh, Dirk, Gay, Granger, Randolph, and Bogut.
Just saying.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
lol it was a pipedream
no way implying that i want that
Since Buss took over the Lakers have built contenders by getting and signing free agents
or by trading for players. Nothing is a pipedream with this team. I wouldn’t be surprised.
THE BANDWAGON: Championship? lol you’ve gotta b kidding. - Emmceee /we aren't winning anything this year man - BlueXfalcon / We arent winning anything this year - Lakergirl / we aren’t winning anything this yurrrrr - Tkuang /I expect them to make it past the first round, but I will be very happy if they make it past the second.- Gil M. / We aren’t gonna win anything this year, dude - Aethereal / don't think we will win anything this year. Seriously-CLDPC / I’m not expecting something big from this Lakers team this season - Yoshifan
Gahhh,
I don’t want Lebron. I understand he’s incredible, and it’d be incredible for the Lakers to get him, but I just don’t want to associate him and the Lakers.
That said, it’s an insanely remote possibility, so I’ll prolly never have to.
It's distasteful, but when it comes down to it, I think we have to go with what's best for the team, and it's hard not to call LeBron that.
Yeah, the double takes and revisionist history would be pretty epic, but in the end, we’re fans of the team. Don’t think that the front office doesn’t know this particular tidbit though. The last time the Lakers had significant cap space, we signed Shaq. Combine the promise of money and L.A., and we pretty much rank above any other free agent destination. If there’s any reason the team isn’t interested in committing to anyone (besides a Paul/Howard-level talent obviously) for the long-term, this is it.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
That's the way I felt
when we first got Kareem. I was around 13. I had developed a real dislike for him because he had made Wilt look bad. Wilt had been at the end of his career when they faced off. I got over it and eventually accepted this hated enemy to my team. It was then that I truly realized that I was a Lakers fan, not a certain player fan. That said, I have never liked LaBron either. Too much scowling during his early years soured me on him. After that, It was obvious that he was extremely arrogant in an irritating way. He has been humbled somewhat and matured the last couple years and I don’t dislike him as much. He sure does have game. I’m sure I could accept him in short order. How old will he be in 2014? We need a (the) top player who has a few years left to play.
I will die a Lakers fan
"All glory is fleeting" - Gen. George S. Patton, Jr.
by midnightrider1961 on Feb 13, 2012 5:43 AM PST up reply actions
I should also
say that I sure don’t wanna see him get any rings with Miami.
I will die a Lakers fan
"All glory is fleeting" - Gen. George S. Patton, Jr.
by midnightrider1961 on Feb 13, 2012 5:45 AM PST up reply actions
struggle through the next couple years
but the Lakers FO really knows what it’s doing
how you doin'
Twitter: @bluefalcon916
Wouldn't be surprised if we tried to sign KG for the mini-midlevel this offseason either though, lol.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
wouldn't mind at all
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Don't Forget To Change Your Sig Tomorrow Since We're Playing Boston, SCG
I call struggle, barely making the playoffs, as it stands
we’re squarely in and shouldn’t be barely making the playoffs at any point
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
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They are in prime position to start over
with whomever they please for sure. Dirk though? lol.
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Don't Forget To Change Your Sig Tomorrow Since We're Playing Boston, SCG
correction
Kobe rescues Lakers from himself and Pau Gasol and MWP et al.
So, enter Arenas and...
anyone STILL think we’re getting out the second round? C’mon.
depends on who we play?
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Don't Forget To Change Your Sig Tomorrow Since We're Playing Boston, SCG
No Arenas
@rosebud
We’d need more than Arenas to get out of the 1st round! After our “Big 3” & Arenas, who else will contribute some scoring & defense?
by 707214Lakerfan4ever on Feb 13, 2012 12:14 AM PST reply actions
I gotta believe we're gettin outta
the first round!
Oh, give him a shot - just
don’t think its going to make a huge dif.
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