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Beast or Burden: After the Storm

DENVER, CO - FEBRUARY 03:  Pau Gasol #16 of the Los Angeles Lakers controls the ball against Al Harrington #7 of the Denver Nuggets at the Pepsi Center on February 3, 2012 in Denver, Colorado. NOTE TO USER: User expressly acknowledges and agrees that, by downloading and or using this photograph, User is consenting to the terms and conditions of the Getty Images License Agreement.  (Photo by Doug Pensinger/Getty Images)

Last night was a rather painful exercise of conflicting loyalties. As a current Ivy League student and half-Asian, I find the Jeremy Lin story undoubtedly inspiring for all the factors that have been discussed ad nauseam in the media: an NBA player coming from a school far better known for producing bankers, lawyers, and politicians, and an Asian-American at that doing so. That it had to come at the expense of my favorite team was the unfortunate part of the process. That the Lakers had the opportunity to acquire Lin during the 2010 offseason only twists the knife even more, although to blame the Lakers for not having the foresight to offer as many years and guaranteed money as the Warriors to an undrafted free agent would be excessive and rather undeserved. Regardless, lost in the Jeremy Lin hoopla was the fact that the Lakers looked completely dead last night. Tyson Chandler is a magnificent defensive player, but he doesn't completely negate Andrew Bynum. Jared Jeffries doesn't slow down Pau Gasol, or score eleven points on him and Bynum for that matter. The game was still disappointing for the lack of fire the Lakers played with, but in the larger picture, the Lakers are currently 2-3 on this road trip and can make it a respectable 3-3 with a win against the lowly Raptors on Sunday. Since we all would have considered 4-2 a very good road trip, 3-3 is acceptable, albeit disappointing for how those losses went down. In any case, onto our recent contributors and convenient scapegoats:

Beast

  • Pau Gasol -- As Wondah's POTW selection made evidently clear, Pau showed up to play on this road trip, albeit too late to claim a spot on the All-Star team. Even more than Bynum, Pau has been the linchpin of the Lakers' defense, defending adeptly on the perimeter and stalling penetration down the middle. He remains the biggest reason Mike Brown's hedge-and-recover system works and all of his difficulties in fitting into the offense aside, he has embraced Brown's defensive mantra. That noted, he has produced well offensively recently and the synergy between him and Bynum appears to be growing as the pair gets more and more adept at their interior passing. It wouldn't be remiss to call Pau's alley-oop passes to Bynum the Lakers' best offensive play this year and Pau's passing in general has helped keep afloat what otherwise is a terribly moribund offense. While he won't be representing the Lakers in Orlando, he certainly has made a statement, at least for the moment, that he thinks that he belongs there.

Star-divide

  • Kobe Bryant -- Kobe continues to be maddening. When he is intermixing his masterful scoring ability with pinpoint passing and surgically dismantling a defense, he is a joy to watch. When he persists in thinking that it is still the Smush era and he needs to take impossible shots when he doesn't need to, especially down the stretch of games, it sends all of us into a fit of rage and frustration. In games such as last night, when the entire team looked completely dead offensively, Kobe taking over is acceptable. Against Philly on Monday, however, in a game during which Bynum had dominated Philly's interior defense, not so much. The ridiculous shot making is simply part of whom Kobe is and there's no changing it, but it wouldn't be remiss to ask him to pick his spots better. There's no denying that he is by far a net positive by any measure, as he was this week, but the more he, Pau, and Bynum are working in sync come playoff time, the more noise this team is going to make.
  • Andrew Bynum -- This is grudging. Bynum was arguably the biggest reason the Lakers lost last night, looking lifeless on both ends and putting up pedestrian numbers in a game in which he should have been far more effective. As noted above, Chandler is a superb defensive player, but that doesn't excuse Bynum for not trying harder to claim deep post position, or allowing Jared Jeffries to waltz past him in the lane to the rim. Yes, he was tired. Yes, he was an important part in the Lakers gutting out a win against Boston the previous night. It still doesn't excuse him for not putting forth the effort, notably when his frontcourt partner in Pau was able to do so. He still deserves this spot for his demolition of Philly's and Utah's interior defense, but he better be looking to regain some pride on Sunday by destroying Andrea Bargnani in the post.
  • Honorable mention goes to Matt Barnes, who was one of the few players to actually show anything last night. The lack of off-ball recognition -- especially on Bynum double teams; yes, Bynum needs to get better at passing out of them, but his teammates need to give him a much easier and prompter release valve -- has been a persistent problem on this team for seemingly everyone except Barnes, whose cutting is a godsend. With Steve Blake back from injury, his work off the ball will hopefully prop up the Lakers' otherwise putrid bench unit.
Burden
  • Metta World Peace -- Before the season, I would have laughed at you if you could consider any position group on the team worse than the Lakers' point guards. I stand corrected. The biggest culprit has been the utterly terrible play of MWP, who has quickly gone from quirky championship role player to amnesty bait thus far this year. His offense has obviously been grotesquely awful, and while his defense is still respectably solid -- compare his defensive performance against Paul Pierce as versus Matt Barnes' -- the offense has gotten so bad that you have to wonder whether he really is worth putting on the floor when he doesn't have a clear wing matchup to shut down. While we quibble at specific foibles of the big three, a much bigger reason for their offensive struggles is that defenses are free to blatantly ignore two of the five players on the court. For obvious reasons, it's hard to win that way. A modest suggestion would be to switch around the players at the three based on matchups. With Pierce playing most of the game, MWP getting minutes is understandable. Otherwise, Jason Kapono would arguably be a better choice. True, his defense is about as good as MWP's offense, but he offers some desperately needed spacing for the big three to operate, and he would be much more effective playing off the starters than he would be on the bench. All in all, that such a suggestion doesn't sound completely insane is testament to how far MWP has declined.
  • Derek Fisher -- Nothing really is new here. He can't defend, can't shoot, makes bad decisions, what have you. The foot-on-the-line long twos must be pathological, as there's really no other explanation otherwise. His awfulness might be the only reason to put a big asterisk on the rise of Jeremy Lin, although that is somewhat unfair to Lin for simply producing against the matchups in front of him. The only upside this season is that Mike Brown is clearly cognizant of Fisher's sheer level of suck, as Blake has usurped a good portion of his minutes as well as the important ones in crunch time. If Andrew Goudelock could take some of those minutes as well -- as with the Kapono example above, allowing Goudelock much more spot-up opportunities by working off the big three would help him, and he might be the only non-Kobe player on the team who is a threat to penetrate off the pick-and-roll due to his floater -- that would be even better.
  • The offense -- The Knicks shot 42.9% last night, which seems amazingly low between the Lin explosion and the Lakers' dead legs. On most nights, that's enough to win. When the Lakers proceed to shoot 37.5%, not so much. This definitely is a very flawed roster and to his credit, Brown has mixed up lineups and tried to get production out of a pile of steaming garbage that includes luminaries such as Troy Murphy, who, like MWP, has inexplicably lost the ability to shoot despite being more than wide open most of the time. As Steve Blake gets back into shape, the offense should improve, but there's no denying that the Lakers desperately need help in this regard. As Blake showed before his injury, a serviceable point guard can unite the disparate parts of the roster and get them to function well together. Ramon Sessions anyone?
  • I mentioned him above, but (dis)honorable mention goes to Troy Murphy. We expected the atrocious defense. The sheer lack of production on offense is simply unacceptable, however. In a way, his struggles are even more surprising than MWP's, as Murphy was an 18 PER player two years ago. It really is hard to blame Mitch Kupchak and Mike Brown for thinking that Murphy is more than the shell of the borderline All-Star player he was with the Pacers, but if this continues, you have to start asking why Josh McRoberts is nailed to the bench, assuming he doesn't get moved for some help on the wings.

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Nice post Ben.

Lost in my Lin madness, I forgot to mention that Matt Barnes received consideration for POTW. Thought he played nicely this week. He’s very effective when he runs, cuts, and rebounds.

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by wondahbap on Feb 11, 2012 2:27 PM PST reply actions  

Amnesty is the same.

Except it comes off the cap. Waiving would allow the Lakers to spread out his renaming salary over double the length of remaining years +1 year. Ron is on an MLE deal, so is he even worth amnestying?

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by wondahbap on Feb 11, 2012 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not saying I wouldn't do it. I most certainly would in a heartbeat.

But I doubt the Lakers would do that, unless MWP loses it. I would waive a few other players as well.

by E-ROC on Feb 11, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

No, the stretch exception only works on new contracts signed under this current CBA.

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by Ben R on Feb 11, 2012 9:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Amnesty relieves the Lakers from paying the luxury tax on his contract, which they still would have to do if they waived him.

So that saves the Lakers about $15 million over the next two years, which is a pretty significant amount of change.

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by Ben R on Feb 11, 2012 9:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Is Bargnani returning sunday?

I’m pretty sure he will still be out

"In this league, you gotta learn to run on empty. Fuel level at zero, but still you run." -KB

by PoPs_737 on Feb 11, 2012 2:50 PM PST reply actions  

Oh, thought he'd been back for a while.

My bad. Well, against Aaron Gray or Amir Johnson then.

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by Ben R on Feb 11, 2012 9:20 PM PST up reply actions  

IVY LEAGUE!!!
…from a school that produces far better known for producing bankers, lawyers, and politicians

/gotems’

Maybe I'll just fade into Bolivian

by Uncle Leo on Feb 11, 2012 3:31 PM PST reply actions  

Fucking Bynum, man. I don't know, man, I don't know.

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Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @Knicks.
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by SoCalGal on Feb 11, 2012 3:33 PM PST reply actions  

I swearz if the dude gets the ball and waits 3 hours to do something with it one more time...

I..I’ll continue being disappointed I guess…

Newsflash: You’re the biggest and strongest dude in the league ffs, if there is only one guy on you when receive the ball dive to the basket immediately like shaq would. Oh and stop with the softy layups and dunk that shiz, COME ON.

Maybe I'll just fade into Bolivian

by Uncle Leo on Feb 11, 2012 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Hire Shaq as an assistant coach

to teach our front court some aggression so they can play to their potential

FUCK DAVID STERN for vetoing destiny.

by deadmuse on Feb 11, 2012 9:18 PM PST up reply actions  

We don't want Shaq around, anywhere, for anything. Period.

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @Knicks.
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by SoCalGal on Feb 11, 2012 11:45 PM PST up reply actions  

That's the point

Force them to perform, or else

FUCK DAVID STERN for vetoing destiny.

by deadmuse on Feb 12, 2012 2:55 AM PST up reply actions  

He's learning on the job

You can almost SEE him thinking about the double team, and what to do.

But it is getting better, he’s now making passes out of the double, reposting, etc….it’s just in slow-mo.

Give him time…he’s a great player and he WANTS to succeed. He’ll get it.

by rshinsec on Feb 12, 2012 5:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Really smh

That dude, I just can’t take it anymore. I mean we already don’t have a consistent option at SF or PG and our only advantage is supposed to be our size and then he goes and lays eggs like last night negating our only advantage. Just smh.

I just want to put it on record that getting Hedo and Jameer back with Dwight wouldn’t be as bad as it seems. Jameer/Hedo are better than Metta/Fish and Blake/Barnes

AMMO carried the Lakers to back-2-back titles and we couldn't even get LEWIS MONROE for him...

by Q.Calloway25 on Feb 11, 2012 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

What I don't understand about Bynum,

is how physically dominating he should be. Like, Chandler, who is a great defender, is thin and lanky. He’s listed at 45 pounds lighter than Bynum. It shouldn’t matter wether Tyson’s a great defender or not, Bynum should have deep enough position to get dunks on a ton of plays. I just cannot understand 1-8 against some one 45 pounds lighter than you.

by Aethereal on Feb 11, 2012 6:38 PM PST reply actions  

Carmelo Anthony

I dont think he fits on the Knicks if they are going to run the Suns version of the Steve Nash (ball in the PGs hands) offense…

So what about Carmelo for Pau?

Could Kobe and Melo co-exist?
I’d think it’d help the Lakers alot.

by Joey Joe on Feb 11, 2012 7:38 PM PST reply actions  

Denver are playing better without melo
Knicks are playing better without melo

by cuentaluis1 on Feb 11, 2012 8:06 PM PST up reply actions  

true carmelo has been horrible this year

39% on FGs
29% on 3s

He may be in the Ricky Davis Hall of Fame for players that score the points on bad teams.

by Joey Joe on Feb 11, 2012 8:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd caution against pinning ALL of the blame on Melo.

Denver started playing better because the Knicks vastly overpaid and sent four rotation players (Felton, Gallinari, Chandler, Mozgov) that made Denver the absurdly deep squad they are right now. The Knicks are playing better since D’Antoni’s system and the rest of the roster are constructed around the notion of having a point guard who can link all of the disparate parts together. That the Knicks played like crap with Melo was more a testament to flawed roster construction than anything else.

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by Ben R on Feb 12, 2012 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Completely unrealistic, but just for argument's sake...

I think Kobe brings out the best in Melo – he played great D for the Olympics when Kobe was on the team. And then he played great D against Kobe in the Conference Finals a couple years ago. I think it would definitely work at least from a personal standpoint. Now, does that mean the offense would actually get better with those 2, I don’t know. It’s hard to tell with these things. But I think they wouldn’t have a problem coexisting…

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by x Nightwing x on Feb 11, 2012 8:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Pau instead of amare would make the Knicks better

But that would b the problem. Amare and Pau on the same team with Chandler. 2 starting pf’s and an established Center kills that trade. They would hafta move Amare. Melo on the Lakers would b a good look tho

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by EmmCeee on Feb 11, 2012 8:48 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

And Amar'e is practically unmovable with that gargantuan non-insured deal.

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by Ben R on Feb 11, 2012 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

sounds like a solid trade for both teams

NY dismantles its combo of solid players who can’t play together (Amare and Melo) and gets to use Amare as a trade chip to someone who’s be willing to take that contract (maybe Paul Pierce) giving them four major pieces: Lin, Pau, Chandler, Pierce.

FUCK DAVID STERN for vetoing destiny.

by deadmuse on Feb 11, 2012 9:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder how easy it is to move Amar'e though.

$60 million over the next three years is a lot of money for a team to absorb, especially for a dude that needs a point guard to feed him the ball and is a big injury risk in the long-term. They would have to take on a bad deal of similar magnitude (Brand? Boozer? Gordon?) for it not to be an overly large burden on both sides.

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To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu

by Ben R on Feb 11, 2012 10:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought Shaq was immovable

then he went from Miami to Phoenix. Then from Phoenix to Cleveland. So maybe there are possibilities, albeit “tainted” ones with bad contracts or situations.

In addition to those you mentioned, perhaps Joe Johnson, or Stephen Jackson & Drew Gooden, or Rashard Lewis.

A lot of intriguing possibilities seem to open up for NYK if they combine Pau with Chandler and Lin, and Melo to the Lakers while keeping Bynum is even more intriguing. It might convince Dwight to join us. Dwight passing to Melo and Kobe is awesome. And if Melo wants to go back to New York, maybe flip him to Brooklyn for D-Will. [OK that last part was devious, but you get the idea.]

FUCK DAVID STERN for vetoing destiny.

by deadmuse on Feb 12, 2012 3:30 AM PST up reply actions  

It's interesting.

It’s basically a rehash of the “Can Wade and LeBron coexist” problem. The difference is that both Kobe and Melo are more accurate from distance and can post-up, which makes for an especially intriguing two-man game on the wing or P&R with Kobe handling the ball and Melo setting the screen. So I don’t think there would be a problem with the two on offense; indeed, you could say that they could thrive off each other, but it would require an adjustment period similar to what Miami had to do with Wade and LeBron. Defensively, it’s a bit iffy. Melo CAN be a solid defender, but you have to depend on Kobe and Brown coaxing him to try harder. He definitely rebounds extremely well for a wing though.

This thought experiment is also a bit different from the discussion last season on whether a Bynum/Melo swap was in the interest of both teams because of the degree to which our threes have degraded. MWP was serviceable last season offense and still brought it on defense. That’s not really the case this season and Barnes is only good in spurts, so it wouldn’t be remiss to consider Melo a huge upgrade at the spot.

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by Ben R on Feb 11, 2012 10:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Pau for Melo also

1) maximizes Pau’s value. We were getting a great deal with CP3. We’re not going to move Pau for Love or Deron, so Melo looks better than a Houston package any day.

2) takes advantage of the moment where the Knicks might be willing to make the trade given Linsanity combined with how well they’re doing without Melo and Amare

We’d be trading a pitiful SF spot for a pitiful PF spot, but we’d still have the Odom TPE to fix that plus we get younger really fast.

FUCK DAVID STERN for vetoing destiny.

by deadmuse on Feb 12, 2012 3:45 AM PST up reply actions  

interesting point
assuming he [Josh McRoberts] doesn’t get moved for some help on the wings.

He was almost traded for OJ Mayo before signing with us. I wonder if we could still get Mayo? And would he be able to start at SF?

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by deadmuse on Feb 11, 2012 9:21 PM PST reply actions  

Way too small to start at the three, but he would constitute a big upgrade in the backcourt.

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To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu

by Ben R on Feb 11, 2012 9:24 PM PST up reply actions  

What if Mayo starts at SG, and Kobe moves to SF?

My team in 2k12 did it, so it must work!!

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by LakerAce on Feb 12, 2012 12:48 AM PST up reply actions  

if we can get Mayo for McBob

Maybe we should take the opportunity to actually build a bench and use Mayo as the backup 2 with some time at the 1, giving him about 26 mpg.

FUCK DAVID STERN for vetoing destiny.

by deadmuse on Feb 12, 2012 3:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Huh?

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Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @Knicks.
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by SoCalGal on Feb 12, 2012 8:25 AM PST up reply actions  

h

FUCK DAVID STERN for vetoing destiny.

by deadmuse on Feb 12, 2012 6:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Huh?

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @Knicks.
Tweetness

by SoCalGal on Feb 12, 2012 8:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Like he said: couple flops up thar.

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by Koshu on Feb 12, 2012 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  


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