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Lakers Trends - What Happened to the Rebounding?

The Lakers finally were given a gift from the basketball scheduling gods this week as they were provided with two days off, twice in the same week. In what has been, and will continue to be, a very packed schedule with no time to practice, the Lakers really needed a few days off to regroup. The results of the past week were something of a roller coaster ride. It began with the Lakers finally beating their Staples Center roommates after losing the three previous meetings this year (two in the preseason). The Lakers then hit the road with newfound confidence, including a more assertive Pau Gasol. Their next game was supposed to be a cake walk. They played a Bucks team that was missing two of its best players and did not have a main rotation player over 6'10" to defend the Lakers bigs. This had one SS&R scribe saying there was "No Reason to Fear the Deer". The Lakers then fell flat on their faces. They were running out of excuses and the following night they had to play a much improved Timberwolves team which Vegas viewed as the favorite. Surprisingly, the Lakers finally had a dominant offensive performance from each of their big three at the same time, leading the Lakers to a rare road win. The roller coaster finished up on the week, but not everything ended on a high note. The big question this week is what happened to the rebounding?

Check out this week's trend update below the jump...

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Effective Field Goal %

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The Lakers' shooting had a nice rebound this week. They had an effective field goal percentage of roughly 55% in their two wins against the Clippers and Timberwolves. In their only loss this week, they did manage to shoot a respectable 47.6% eFG, approximately league average. The big reason for the improvement was the Lakers beginning to find their touch from three-point range. They combined to make 22 of 54 attempts on the week, good for 40.7%. As a result, the Lakers have again become an above-average team, even if only slightly, at shooting the ball.

Defensively for the week, the Lakers performed similar to their full season average. They held the Clippers to a fairly average 47.1% eFG. Milwaukee then torched the Lakers to the tune of 53.1%, handing the Lakers an upset loss at the same time. Last night the Lakers flipped the script and held Minnesota to only 40.9% and hung on to win in an upset of their own. In the end the Lakers improved their shooting advantage and moved up to 8th best in the league in net eFG%.

Turnover %

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Offensively, the Lakers did not have any major change in turnovers. They played all three games with a turnover rate in line with their season long average. Defensively, the Lakers were awful at forcing turnovers. They forced 12 turnovers against the Clippers, 8 against the Bucks, and then only 4 against the Timberwolves. Perhaps most astonishing, the opposing team's point guards (Chris Paul, Brandon Jennings, and Ricky Rubio) combined for 27 assists and only 1 turnover. (Fantasy basketball tip: Play any point guard on your roster when they play the Lakers). These three players are all good, and in Paul's case great, point guards. However, the Lakers must improve at forcing turnovers. The fact that they are dead last in the league is not a huge surprise. What is shocking is just how far behind they are from the 29th ranked team in San Antonio.

Rebound %

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What happened to the Lakers' rebounding? They began the season as a good rebounding team without Bynum. Then when Bynum returned, they were rebounding at a rate that would have made them the best in the league (see the second point on their trend path). Since then they have steadily worked back down towards mediocrity. How can a team featuring both Bynum and Gasol be only an average rebounding team?

The Lakers did improve on the offensive glass this week, primarily because of the game against Milwaukee. The Bucks spent most of the game with 6'10" Drew Gooden trying to guard Andrew Bynum, and 6'8" Luc Richard Mbah a Moute trying to guard Pau Gasol, who pulled down 7 offensive rebounds over the much smaller defender, helping the Lakers grab 35% of their missed shots.

Defensively the Lakers were unbelievably bad. While the undersized Bucks struggled on the glass, the Clippers and Timberwolves nearly pulled out victories despite shooting 42% and 38% from the field respectively. Both the Clippers and the Timberwolves grabbed offensive rebounds on 40% of their misses, leading to both teams taking over 20 more field goal attempts than the Lakers. It is hard to fathom how such a big front line with two very capable rebounders could now be a team that has a below league average defensive rebound rate. Yes, that is correct. The Lakers are now 18th in the league in defensive rebounding. This was supposed to be a strong suit of the Lakers and was one reason their defense was so strong at the start of the season.

Free Throws to Field Goal Attempts

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Again there isn't much to say with regard to free throw rate this week. The Lakers continue to slightly improve as the season goes on. Their ability to get to the line has not changed much but they are consistently improving when it comes to keeping the opposition off of it.

Offensive and Defensive Rating

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The Lakers had a big shift from an offensive team to a defensive team this week. The newfound shooting helped propel the Lakers up five spots to 13th in the league in offensive efficiency. Defensively, however, they fell 6 spots to number 12. The defense is elite no longer. It isn't that the opposition is lighting them up, it is that when they are missing the Lakers are constantly giving them second and third attempts each possession. The end result is that the Lakers are basically an average offensive and defensive team so far this season. It shouldn't then come as a surprise to see them 14th in the overall net efficiency rankings.

While the ride was filled with very high "Highs" (beating the Clippers and the big three combining for 84 points) and a very low "Low" (the loss to a undersized Milwaukee team playing on the second night of a back-to-back without two of its best players), there are some very positive signs for the Lakers. They appear to be regaining their shooting touch with both Derek Fisher and Kobe Bryant beginning to make shots. Mike Brown continues to experiment with line-ups to see what works and has discovered that Andrew Goudelock can play the point guard spot and is a much needed threat on the perimeter. The offense is beginning to come around and is trending in the right direction. Now if only the Lakers could get back to the basics and rebound the ball they might actually win consecutive games again.

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YAY!!!!!

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @MNTimberwolves.
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by SoCalGal on Jan 30, 2012 1:02 PM PST reply actions  

LOL, no, why?

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by SoCalGal on Jan 30, 2012 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

She must be!

I know she read the whole thing because I asked her to read it over and edit any errors before it went up.

by Actuarially Sound on Jan 30, 2012 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

yay!!!

"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco

by Marty Mart on Jan 30, 2012 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL, am I really that bad?

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @MNTimberwolves.
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by SoCalGal on Jan 30, 2012 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

you're welcome

"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco

by Marty Mart on Jan 30, 2012 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Hush.

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @MNTimberwolves.
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by SoCalGal on Jan 30, 2012 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

LMAO

"In this league, you gotta learn to run on empty. Fuel level at zero, but still you run." -KB

by PoPs_737 on Jan 30, 2012 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

It's says a lot about this team (and not in a good way)

that were thrilled a late second round pick can contribute in a meaningful and important way, but Goudelock being an NBA shooter is really going to open up the perimter and the offense in general. If he continues to play anywhere close to this teams are actually gonna have to play the Lakers honestly at the 1 spot for the first time in a while

In the rebounding department it would help if Gasol boxed out and Andrew stopped playing like he is afraid to get hurt again.

by Archon on Jan 30, 2012 1:13 PM PST reply actions  

I think the most telling thing is:

Off Rating: 13
Def Rating: 12
Net Rating: 14

We’re middle of the pack right now

by neokoros on Jan 30, 2012 1:16 PM PST reply actions  

One of the reasons I want Bynum traded for Howard

Even if it takes Gasol to do it (though we have to get back R. Anderson and Turk in that scenario) is Howard is just a better and more consistent rebounder. Part of it may be that he has fully healthy knees, and he doesn’t constantly have the thought of injury in the back of his mind every time he jumps. But he makes up for the slight height difference in him and Bynum with more hustle and athleticism. He’s constantly working both the offensive and defensive boards, and he seems to put those boards back better than Bynum as well.

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 1:37 PM PST reply actions  

Because he doesn't bring the ball back down, something Andrew still has a hard time with. Happens to Gasol too, but not as often on putback opportunities.

When you bring the ball down, you have a higher chance of getting stripped, which LG and I were talking about during last night’s game. Frustrating as hell.

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by SoCalGal on Jan 30, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder if stuff like that goes back to the injuries?

He’s even mentioned that he always thinks about it to some degree. I wonder if he has a hard time just playing because he’s always concentrating on making sure he goes up and gets the ball, but then coming back down safely.

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Could be

but I he just can’t get as high as Dwight so he can’t stay in the air long enough to put it back off of the first jump

AMMO carried the Lakers to back-2-back titles and we couldn't even get LEWIS MONROE for him...

by Q.Calloway25 on Jan 30, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

He should also have a pretty decent arm length over Dwight as well, so he shouldn't have to get quite as high

or stay in the air as long. Though the knee injuries may have also taken some of the spring out of his legs that he once had.

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

The problem doesn't really stem from Bynum.

Andrew’s fairly athletic, at least in my opinion. The difference is just that Dwight is superhuman. His athleticism just doesn’t make sense. He covers too much ground, and then jumps over every one, and has great hands the whole time. Him getting tips more consistently than Bynum is a product of the fact that the dude can put stickers above the box on the backboard, not that Bynum’s a slouch.

by Aethereal on Jan 30, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I certainly never meant to imply Bynum isn't loaded with potential

Or that he isn’t a very good athlete for a 7 foot+ player. I just think it’s fair to say he isn’t quite the athlete he once was before all the knee injuries. It would be hard for him to not have lost a little something from that.

My main reason for wanting to trade Bynum for Howard isn’t hate for Bynum, or lack of respect for his skills, it’s Howard’s durability. I literally hold my breathe anytime Bynum hits the floor, or starts looking a little slow going down the court.

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Bynum is slow

The biggest problem with Bynum compared to Howard is that Bynum is pretty slow footed. Bynum can cover 2 spaces on the court for rebounds. Howard covers 4 spaces. As a result, Howard can get to more rebounds than Bynum can.

Bynum, being so big, also gets winded a lot more than Howard. Thus, in the second half of games, he is huffing and puffing. Bynum has to work more on his conditioning. All that boxing work in the off season helped. But he has to do more.

Bynum does have more offensive moves than Howard. He can make free throws better than Howard.

Bynum has to work more on his quickness. The knee brace is fairly light and should not pose a problem. It does provide psychological security from injury. Bynum does need to work more on leg strength and speed in order to catch up with Howard.

Bynum’s biggest problem, however, is that he is a late bloomer when it comes to basketball – having started late in high school. Howard has been playing since he was very young. Thus Bynum doesn’t do a lot of things instinctively yet. He is thinking way too much on the court. Conscious thought is 1000 times slower than instinctive thought. This is why Bynum’s reaction times are so slow. He needs more practice and work with a tutor like Kareem.

by jameskatt on Jan 30, 2012 11:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Funny, Shaq wasn't quick

but he was a better player than Howard ever was.

by nitotech on Jan 31, 2012 12:41 AM PST up reply actions  

shaq was quick when he wanted to be.

quick spin moves in the post. shaq had excellent footwork for a man his size. shaq in his prime would blow by drew or howard.

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by LakersFoEva on Jan 31, 2012 7:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Prime Shaq would hit for 30-15 every night in the league now

People forget there were some really good centers playing then

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by EmmCeee on Jan 31, 2012 7:44 AM PST via Android app up reply actions  

there were actually big 7 footers back then.

if shaq (circa 2002) was in the league now, he would absolutely obliterate everyone.

"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung

by LakersFoEva on Jan 31, 2012 7:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Shaq’s more amazing run is actually to begin his career playing against Ewing and Olajuwon and Robinson regularly.

"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco

by Marty Mart on Jan 31, 2012 8:30 AM PST up reply actions  

his footwork on the first link

is ridiculous

"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung

by LakersFoEva on Jan 31, 2012 9:10 AM PST up reply actions  

he was completely out of control

"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco

by Marty Mart on Jan 31, 2012 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Shaq was deceptively quick

he was just too fat after a while to consistently be so.

"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco

by Marty Mart on Jan 31, 2012 8:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Young Shaq was dare i say svelte lol

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by EmmCeee on Jan 31, 2012 8:25 AM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Give up on Howard homie lol

Itz not gon happen. I jus hope the Lakers FO moves on and does something to make the team better and not wait on Otis to decide what he wants to do. We just hafta make due with the 3rd best rebounder in the league.

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by EmmCeee on Jan 30, 2012 2:38 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

I haven't been around here long

but your Bynum love kind of seems out of scale with what he’s been. Howard’s a better player, a more consistent player, and a player who you don’t have to worry about blowing out his knee every single time he jumps in the air.

Bynum has a lot of talent and potential, no one should ague that. But he isn’t as good as Howard right now and I have no reason to believe he will suddenly be the picture of health from now until he retires.

Also I think the team is better with Howard, Anderson, and Turk than just Gasol and Bynum. Especially if Gasol is going to be so hot and cold all the time.

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

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Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @MNTimberwolves.
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by SoCalGal on Jan 30, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes in NBA 2K12 he's MVP.

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

The thing is. .

We’re not gettin Howard. Lil buddy cant even make his mind up as to where he wants to go. IF (and thats a huge if)we get him we better hope his offensive game improves alot cuz ya know athleticism doesnt last forever.

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by EmmCeee on Jan 30, 2012 3:13 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

lol Darius from over at FB&G joked on twitter

that it’d be easier for Howard to list the teams he WONT play for.

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by bluexfalcon on Jan 30, 2012 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Ignore everything he says.

The list is the only thing that means anything.

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by x Nightwing x on Jan 30, 2012 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

He's already said he'd re-sign with the Lakers. If you can work a deal you do it.

This is true but he’s in his athletic prime, so I’d worry about that bridge when we came to it.

"I'm a little worried about being a slut"
~ Bobby Hill

by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

yes but...

he already said that new jersey is his FIRST option. and from some reports, thats where he wants to be…a net. rich bucher was on espn this morning saying that there was a number of players dwight would love to play alonside, and stephen jackson was one of them.

so with that, howards picturing himself, deron williams, and stephen jackson in new jersey/brooklyn. i just wish that howard would freakin quit “sugarcoating” everything, and leaving everybody in limbo, and just come right out and say that the nets is where his “final” destination is.

by Mark Jaramillo on Jan 30, 2012 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

If he didn't want to play here he wouldn't have put us on the list...

And S-Jax?! Really?! Dwight’s starting to sound really dumb… Or the more likely story is that Ric is making this up, like everyone at ESPN…

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by x Nightwing x on Jan 30, 2012 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

S-Jax isn't too bad

when he’s not your only offensive option as he was with the Bucks and with the Bobcats before them. Somehow people seem to think he’s that type of offensive player. I just don’t get it.

"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco

by Marty Mart on Jan 30, 2012 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

And when he's not pointing a gun at you.

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by SoCalGal on Jan 30, 2012 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

He also wanted Big Baby.

The dumb comment wasn’t just in reference to S-Jax…

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by x Nightwing x on Jan 30, 2012 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Big Baby wasn't a bad choice, outside of I think that request was

made at a time further back that wasn’t exposed. Big Baby was better just over a season ago

"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco

by Marty Mart on Jan 30, 2012 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

What I'm saying is

Dwight could’ve asked for Big Baby any time ago, but Otis didn’t get him until now.

"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco

by Marty Mart on Jan 30, 2012 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe Otis is just an idiot...

If you can't laugh at yourself... laugh at someone else

by x Nightwing x on Jan 30, 2012 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he also wants to seem like he's in charge of his team, not players.

Which is why he hasn’t used much of Dwight’s advice. Which is just stupid. So I guess that does go back to him being an idiot…

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

outside of Ryan Anderson and a pre-shoulder injury Nelson

his last couple moves would have you believe that

"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco

by Marty Mart on Jan 30, 2012 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

nightwing...

every player puts the lakers on there short list. but it just seems to me like he just doesnt want, or should i say CANT! live up to the lakers centers legacy. he says he wants to “carve his own path”? sounds to me like hes afraid to fail to live up to the legends/hall of famer’s, that the lakers molded.

by Mark Jaramillo on Jan 30, 2012 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

If he gets traded here he WILL NOT leave

If there were any chance he would, we wouldn’t trade for him… So I don’t really see your point. If he says he’ll stay here if traded, you think he’s straight-up lying?

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by x Nightwing x on Jan 30, 2012 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

LOLWUT
sounds to me like hes afraid to fail to live up to the legends/hall of famer’s, that the lakers molded.

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by SoCalGal on Jan 30, 2012 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd say none were haha

unless we’re counting Bynum in some alternate universe.

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Kobe's been a Laker from the start...

Jerry and Magic too. No big men though…

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by x Nightwing x on Jan 30, 2012 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I was just talking big men

All our great big men were molded somewhere else.

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

The only homegrown legends we have are Elgin Baylor, Jerry West, Magic Johnson and Kobe Bryant.

Everyone else came to us via trade or free agency, right?

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @MNTimberwolves.
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by SoCalGal on Jan 30, 2012 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Whoops, forgot Elgin...

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by x Nightwing x on Jan 30, 2012 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Kobe was technically a trade too if you want to count that

Though he has never laced up for anyone else.

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~ Bobby Hill

by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly, he's done all his work here.

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @MNTimberwolves.
Tweetness

by SoCalGal on Jan 30, 2012 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Worthy?

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by x Nightwing x on Jan 30, 2012 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh yes, Worthy too.

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @MNTimberwolves.
Tweetness

by SoCalGal on Jan 30, 2012 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

are you guys talking about dwight?

because the past week or so, has me doubting he will show up. Shaq has really gone after Dwight like an ass, and that pressure might put Dwight in an uncomfortable position.

Join the Lakers and be just like Superman, further playing into Shaq’s “I was the first” card or carve his own path with another franchise.

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by bluexfalcon on Jan 30, 2012 11:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Fixed.
Shaq has really gone after Dwight like is an ass

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Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @MNTimberwolves.
Tweetness

by SoCalGal on Jan 31, 2012 6:27 AM PST up reply actions  

He may want to be a Net, but he wants to be a Lakers as well.

He’d never turn down the opportunity to be a big star in LA. I would have no fear of him being traded here and then simply leaving to sign with the Nets or Dallas.

He can’t say that and I don’t think he sees them as his “final destination”… Those movies suck BTW!… I fully believe he can see himself playing for several teams.

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

He's a career 18/13 guy right now. Shaq's career numbers are 23/10.

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by SoCalGal on Jan 30, 2012 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

23/10 is misleading because it includes his last couple years of Shaq's career where his numbers were low

Dwight is 26 and in his 8th year in the league. He’s averaged 18.3 and 12.9 so far.

When Shaq was 26, his career numbers up to that point were 27.1 and 12.2.

by LAL32 on Jan 30, 2012 6:40 PM PST up reply actions  

What?

They aren’t the only stats, but they are certainly important ones.

by LAMojo on Jan 30, 2012 9:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I think

rebound rate is more important than rpg, and in that regard Dwight is a much better rebounder than Shaq. And pts are important, but contextualizing them is much more important, and it’s also incredibly important to remember that straight scoring isn’t as useful for showing offensive impact as TS% and Ast%.

I wasn’t meaning to imply that Dwight is as good as Shaq was, but rpg is very misleading in that it makes Shaq look like a much better rebounder than Shaq, when he wasn’t. And while PPG is a useful stat, PPG doesn’t illustrate the (many) ways in which Shaq was better than Dwight offensively.

by Aethereal on Jan 30, 2012 9:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Assist percentage is bullshit. It's a bullshit stat that says nothing about a player's offensive game.

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by SoCalGal on Jan 30, 2012 10:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I hear ya,

it’s just better than APG, like TRB% is better than RPG

by Aethereal on Jan 30, 2012 10:13 PM PST up reply actions  

My point was really that his offensive game is fine and will get better. He's in his prime.

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by SoCalGal on Jan 30, 2012 6:51 PM PST up reply actions  

1year.

And he pretty much picked up where he left off in his rookie year lol

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by EmmCeee on Jan 30, 2012 8:43 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

If you could combine shaq's offense with

howards defense…. oh boi

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by LakersFoEva on Jan 31, 2012 7:34 AM PST up reply actions  

More like

if Dwight had Shaq’s body to begin his career. We’re all kinda forgetting that Dwight wasn’t always this way and he was tall and lanky throughout high school and to begin his career instead of being buck diesel. Shaq was a much bigger guy both in height and stature. Dwight’s not even really 7 feet lol

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by Marty Mart on Jan 31, 2012 8:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Yup, and he can still all of dat!

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by SoCalGal on Jan 31, 2012 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

I really don't think that is the case at all.

It’s far from a guarantee but if you have seen the Magic lately they now know they have to trade him. They aren’t championship caliber and he is going to leave. Whether it would be better for them or not, they don’t have the balls to ride this out and watch him leave like Shaq 2.0.

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

agreed emmCeee...

lets move on from D12. the lakers ARE NOT getting him sooooo………..next!

by Mark Jaramillo on Jan 30, 2012 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

NOT getting him is too firm IMO

If the Lakers want him they can get and keep him.

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

for what price chris?

thats what im saying. ya…the lakers if it was up to them can sign ANYBODY if they wanted. but! jim buss already said that he is not going to give up BOTH bigmen for dwight. and it just seems like he doesnt want to play second fiddle to kobe. and i dont see why.

by Mark Jaramillo on Jan 30, 2012 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I've said before I'd trade Bynum and Gasol for Dwight, R. Anderson, and Turk.

If you could somehow get Redick that would be icing on the cake. I honestly think it makes us a better team.

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

They won't give up Anderson.

But I would take that deal too…

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by x Nightwing x on Jan 30, 2012 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

If they get Gasol I don't see why they wouldn't trade Anderson

With Bynum and Gasol his minutes tank.

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

You have a point, I just don't know how much they'll give along with Dwight.

If you swapped out Redick for Anderson I might still do that trade…

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by x Nightwing x on Jan 30, 2012 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd still consider it but I like it a lot less.

At that point McRoberts becomes a starter. Anderson gives us length to make up for the lack of Gasol and he adds three point shooting to stretch the court for Kobe. That really is the perfect deal for both sides from my perspective.

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, but I'm assuming we get someone to fill the void...

Still, with Dwight there, I’d take McBobs starting…

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by x Nightwing x on Jan 30, 2012 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I suppose Turk could play some PF as well to give offense to the spot when McRoberts isn't in

but it isn’t ideal. Maybe they can use the exception to find a PF to start in that scenario.

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

im afraid its going to take more than that...

look everyone, im not trying to sound negative here. hell, ive been on the howard sweepstakes since day one, but what im trying to say is…

if dwight really wants to be here? than come right out and say it. period. melo did it why cant he? melo straight up told denver…“i want to be in new york”. dwight? …“i want to be a net…oh wait!…a maverick!!..no, no….the lakers! ya!..no…(scratching his head)…boston!!”….dude make up your mind!! maybe its this that i get aggravated with the kid.

i guess were just going to have to wait and see, i know one thing, that otis smith wont trade D12 before the all-star gm, he wants dwight as a magic since it is in orlando. after that? we’ll see…i guess lol.

by Mark Jaramillo on Jan 30, 2012 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Lemme see, what's changed since Melo said he wanted to go to New York? Something significant, but I can't put my finger on it.

Oh yeah, David Fucking Stern blocked a trade because he said he didn’t want stars picking their own teams. Just a small thing, perhaps, but maybe that’s why no outright definitive statement from Dwight about where he wants to go.

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by SoCalGal on Jan 30, 2012 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

ok...

with that said, you think stern will veto this one as well? or dallas? or boston? or whatever else team he had mentioned?

by Mark Jaramillo on Jan 30, 2012 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Can't, he doesn't effectively own those teams...

Even he isn’t brave (read: stupid) enough to try that.

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by x Nightwing x on Jan 30, 2012 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

but you dont think whuny ass owners like dan gilbert

wont sawy there hands again and shake stern up again like they did with chris paul? cuz right now…i dont dont trsut david stern as far as i could throw his crooked ass! i wouldnt doubt it one bit if he tried again to f*ck the lakers over.

by Mark Jaramillo on Jan 30, 2012 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Can't. Even if Gilbert did get pissed about it he has no power there.

Otherwise he would have stopped Gasol to the Lakers years ago.

Stern is essentially the Owner and GM of the Hornets right now. That gave him override power on the whole deal. The best he could do is advise against the Magic doing it, but even then it wouldn’t do anything.

If the Magic want to trade him to LA it happens.

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

It doesn't matter.

We’re telling you he CAN’T, they only reason he could with CP3 is because he is – in effect – the owner of the Hornets (the league owns them)…

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by x Nightwing x on Jan 30, 2012 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually not strictly true

The league DOES have final say on all trades, and from what I’ve heard, a few trades actually have been canceled by the league over the years… never goes public though. It is true that what he did with the Hornets was in his capacity as de facto owner of the team. That was his ever-so-flimsy justification at least. But it is within his authority to reject any trade in the league, from what I’ve read. Likely wouldn’t happen because the PR fallout would be about a million times worse, and he legitimately might face a lawsuit in that case, but…

by TheWerg on Jan 30, 2012 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

He would certainly face a lawsuit at that point

You’d have charges of collusion that could actually stick.

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

It would be collusion beyond a shadow of a doubt...

Unless the deal was like Luke and MWP for Howard…

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by x Nightwing x on Jan 30, 2012 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I think eventually he's going to have to take the best deal on the table

and I don’t see anyone coming up with better pieces than what we have.

I have no problem with him keeping his options open. That his prerogative, it’s an important decision for him and he needs to make sure he can go somewhere and win.

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah it won't be before the All-Star game...

And ignore anything Dwight says about playing for teams UNLESS they’re on his list. Those are the teams he’s said FOR SURE he will sign an extension…

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by x Nightwing x on Jan 30, 2012 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Pretty sure folks get fined

for speaking about being traded nowadays

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by Marty Mart on Jan 30, 2012 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

We're tetna trade for Sessions

young pg..reasonable salary…make it happen

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by EmmCeee on Jan 30, 2012 2:43 PM PST via Android app reply actions  

Depends how it's done.

I’d rather not spend Odom’s TPE on him, but otherwise the only conceivable trade from our point of view would be swapping Walton for Sessions, and there’s no way in hell Cleveland does that. There’s no way we give up Blake or Fisher for him (the only other 2 with similar salaries), so I don’t really see how it would work.

The one trade I wouldn’t mind with Cleveland would be acquiring Varejao into Odom’s TPE, but there are probably better uses for it elsewhere.

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by steffun4tw on Jan 30, 2012 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe Morris and a 1st would work...

I don’t know if the 1st would make up for the salary difference. The trade machine doesn’t have that option…

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by x Nightwing x on Jan 30, 2012 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Why Varejao?

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

serviceable backup C

better then anything we have at the moment

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by bluexfalcon on Jan 30, 2012 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

C?

Well, more so than Troy or Bobs…

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by x Nightwing x on Jan 30, 2012 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

back up big man

wayyyy better than flat shot Murphy

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by bluexfalcon on Jan 30, 2012 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Makes McRoberts pretty worthless though.

So instead of replacing Murphy he makes our only real bench piece obsolete.

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

McRoberts would still be useful

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by Marty Mart on Jan 30, 2012 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Absolutely. Dude has unbelievable hops.

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by SoCalGal on Jan 30, 2012 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep, Troy would get left out before McBobs

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by x Nightwing x on Jan 30, 2012 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup his go button

is stuck on warp speed. Troy just looks special.

by Grabmeone2 on Jan 30, 2012 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree, but Murphy is at least suppose to do something different

Varejao just seems to be an upgraded version of McRoberts skill set. I certainly would hate to see the offense with both on the court at once.

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, how is it

This team’s entire second unit is full of guys who have zero offensive ability. Kwame Brown has more offensive ability than these guys.

by Grabmeone2 on Jan 30, 2012 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

sigh... unfortunately for Kwame that's still not the case

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by Marty Mart on Jan 30, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I love the hustle, grittiness, and want to play D

but god I want some offense off the bench

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

He's taller and can actually play C

it’s not an upgraded version as much as he’s the same version at a completely different position.

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by Marty Mart on Jan 30, 2012 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

He can actually shoot a bit...

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by x Nightwing x on Jan 30, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

a very little bit.

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

More than McBobs.

Less than Murphy though probably…

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by x Nightwing x on Jan 30, 2012 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Much less than Murphy

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I mean this year.

Murphy in the past – definitely a lot less…

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by x Nightwing x on Jan 30, 2012 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I would still say much less

Murphy still has the ability to knock down threes, Varejao would never dare try.

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Varejao?

he’s a good put back guy and in the lane finisher from short distance.

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by Marty Mart on Jan 30, 2012 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

well, that's what I meant about finishing from short distance

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by Marty Mart on Jan 30, 2012 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

He seems to be more of a better version of McRoberts than anything else

Though he can play C more than McRoberts can.

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

we don't have a back-up C lol

that’s why Bynum and Pau are always so freaking gassed

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by Marty Mart on Jan 30, 2012 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

would dan gilbert really help us?

he was the biggest one protesting the CP3 trade

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by bluexfalcon on Jan 30, 2012 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

My thoughts exactly.

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by steffun4tw on Jan 30, 2012 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

it seemed more for money reasons.

we were getting the better deal, and cutting salary by 9 mill. which would have caused the small market teams to miss out on 18 mill of the lakers luxury tax.

by trading us sessions and/or varajao, he is increasing our luxury tax and putting more money in his pocket.

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by LakersFoEva on Jan 31, 2012 7:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I guess it makes sense.

Will Mike Brown keep Fisher on the bench and play Glock, Sessions, and Blake? I have my doubts. I would like a two guard/small forward that can shoot more than a point guard at this point. And the Cavs don’t have that……..at least that person isn’t available. With Sessions, the Lakers are adding talent to a position that has a lot of depth, albeit not quality depth. I would pass. Go get Kobe’s backup and a SF that can shoot.

by E-ROC on Jan 30, 2012 3:09 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Sessions is much better than anything we have.

What else can we realistically get with the TPE? I don’t think we’ll get anything good. (I would much rather get Sessions than Varejao).

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by x Nightwing x on Jan 30, 2012 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Dnt think you can use the exception in a trade like that

Only for players that fit in it

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by EmmCeee on Jan 30, 2012 3:21 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Does it have to be a 1-1 thing, it can't be used to take on the salary of a player in a bigger deal?

I know for instance that Turk’s contract is too big to fit, but can’t it be used to take on a contract within the structure of a deal for Howard?

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope 1 player and can't be used as part of a deal.

Just one player for the TPE, but draft picks can be included I believe…

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by x Nightwing x on Jan 30, 2012 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

So now I'm positive that it will expire.

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Which is another reason I'm in favor of the Sessions deal...

Better him than nothing.

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by x Nightwing x on Jan 30, 2012 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

we can't use the exception for Sessions

salary doesn’t match. We’d have to send over draft picks and/or a young player(s)

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by bluexfalcon on Jan 30, 2012 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

What do you mean it doesn't match?

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by x Nightwing x on Jan 30, 2012 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually it does (at least that's what Woj says)

I assume you tried it in the trade machine, which is all messed up with TPEs…

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by x Nightwing x on Jan 30, 2012 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, Session is better than anything we have at the PG position.

The problem is that at the PG spot, you have Morris, Glock, Blake, and Fisher. And you’re going to add another point guard in Sessions. Looking at the rest of the roster, Kobe has no back up and the SF position isn’t producing much of anything offensively. For the time being, Glock is shooting the ball well and Blake is returning in a couple of weeks. Bryant is playing ton of minutes and the Lakers are bypassing that issue to trade for a PG? And going with a small backcourt is not a good thing.

by E-ROC on Jan 30, 2012 3:27 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Is Glock going to get minutes at SG when Blake comes back?

Out of everyone on the roster he seems to make the most sense, especially if Kapono is going to pass out of every shot op he has.

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Can't really guard the 2

…Not that Kapono really can, but…

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by x Nightwing x on Jan 30, 2012 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

We're just screwed at the backup 2...

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

2 words - Elijah Millsap

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by x Nightwing x on Jan 30, 2012 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I haven't seen him play

but everyone talks highly of him here and his D-League numbers look good. If Kapono doesn’t start to get some minutes and produce with them soon they need to go in that direction I guess. At the very least the youth would be a welcome sight.

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Better than anything Kapono's done thus far.

Even when he gets open looks he’s passing out of them. Frustrating as hell.

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

You and everybody...

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by x Nightwing x on Jan 30, 2012 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

He just has to do what Kobe does

Hang out on the perimeter and watch his man take open 3’s

by Grabmeone2 on Jan 30, 2012 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

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by x Nightwing x on Jan 30, 2012 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Quality over quantity

id assume Morris goes to the D League and hopefully Kapono gets cut to make room

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by EmmCeee on Jan 30, 2012 3:20 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Isn't that Anthony Parker u described?

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by Marty Mart on Jan 30, 2012 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe the plan would be to slide Blake and Fisher to the 2, and Kobe to the 3.

At least if it’s a straight up trade. But even if we just absorbed Sessions with Odom’s TPE, we’d still have to cut someone. And that’s probably Kapono or Walton at this point.

by mambahunter on Jan 30, 2012 4:18 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

so what do you think of gilbert arenas?

personally the dude is a headcase. he might end up MWP’s BFF, but i really dont want him to tell you the truth.

by Mark Jaramillo on Jan 30, 2012 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

The only reason I'd trade for sessions

is to try and get back Varejao as well. we’d prolly have to give them some of our excess at either F position, but I don’t mind that

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by Marty Mart on Jan 30, 2012 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

What excess would they want though?

Maybe Barnes but that would leave the Lakers with MWP and Walton. Yikes. I don’t think Varejao will be available this season either.

by E-ROC on Jan 30, 2012 3:43 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Ebanks

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by x Nightwing x on Jan 30, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually that might end up being a blessing in disguise

Gets Ebanks some PT

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by x Nightwing x on Jan 30, 2012 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

id rather go with Ebanks

Let the youngster play consistent minutes. Playing here and there doesn’t help at all. It creates a i gotta play perfect or get taken out complex which isnt good for a young player.

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by EmmCeee on Jan 30, 2012 3:52 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Yeah.

What I REALLY want is MWP to play the spot Ebanks has right now, and let Ebanks/Barnes take most of the minutes…

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by x Nightwing x on Jan 30, 2012 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Depends on what Artest you get on any given night

When he plays hard nose D and brings intensity to the position I like him over Ebanks. He just doesn’t do that night in and night out, or even every other night.

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I think MWP is only useful when you have a big, strong SF like James or Melo.

Otherwise I like Barnes’ defense just fine, and Ebanks youth…

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by x Nightwing x on Jan 30, 2012 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I do like Barnes

I just wish we had a real starter at the 3 so he could come off the bench.

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

And the problem with that is...

You never know what you’re going to get with him, from night to night. Even Odom, as inconsistent as he was, was as mercurial as Peace.

And I like Peace. I really do. He’s just not utilized effectively enough on this team and too inconsistent at the same time.

by mambahunter on Jan 30, 2012 4:22 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Typo

*wasn’t as mercurial…

by mambahunter on Jan 30, 2012 4:23 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Yeah his inconsistency is a torture

Sometimes he seems like he just doesn’t want to play.

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

well...

he did come out and say that he actually gets “bored” out there. really?

by Mark Jaramillo on Jan 30, 2012 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

He's lost some of his fire.

He recaptures it some nights, but it’s not around all the time like when he was younger… Though that led to it’s own problems.

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

i think he plays his best when someone annoy's him...

like how he got with the clippers last week with all there yapping…dude just got fed up! lol

by Mark Jaramillo on Jan 30, 2012 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

He said he got bored with defense because he can guard anyone. Don't go putting words in his mouth.

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by SoCalGal on Jan 30, 2012 6:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Huh?

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by SoCalGal on Jan 30, 2012 7:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Sounds like bs lol

He just sucked. he must b bored shooting 3’s too lol

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by EmmCeee on Jan 30, 2012 7:51 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Sounds like bs lol

He just sucked. he must b bored shooting 3’s too lol

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by EmmCeee on Jan 30, 2012 7:51 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Yeah i liked Ebanks starting.

Let the youngsters develop and get some consistent burn. Itll only help us in the long run plus he was shooting like 50% as a starter.

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by EmmCeee on Jan 30, 2012 4:00 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

that actually doesn't bode well for any player

young or old

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"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco

by Marty Mart on Jan 30, 2012 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Its sad that I forgot about him.

I think thats an indictment of what kind of player Ebanks. Anthony Parker would be a massive upgrade in the shooting department and he can guard threes and twos. sighs

by E-ROC on Jan 30, 2012 4:04 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Ebanks was ok when he played

at first, he was patient, hitting the shots given to him and overall playing well. Unfortunately, he never cut off the ball or played defense all that well. That’s why Barnes got the start

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by Marty Mart on Jan 30, 2012 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I just meant that

he wasn’t really memorable cuz he didn’t move all that well in the offense to different spots

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"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco

by Marty Mart on Jan 30, 2012 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Overall I'd much rather have Barnes start over Ebanks or Artest

but I’d prefer to have someone to start so Barnes could come off the bench. Which is a bad circumstance to be in.

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, I don't think so about Varejao either

but I’d at least try

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"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco

by Marty Mart on Jan 30, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Semih Erden is solid too.

I would take him as well.

by E-ROC on Jan 30, 2012 4:05 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

isn't he their pick from this year though?

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by Marty Mart on Jan 30, 2012 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Lakers want a PG?

Trade:

Lakers get: Deron Williams and Antawn Jamison + Trade Exception from the Nets
Cavs get World Peace, LO trade exception, Caracter, and Lakers 2012 1st pick
Nets get Pau Gasol + Steve Blake

Lakers can waive or let Jamison start.
Dan Gilbert is happy, he now has someone who can actually defend the SF/SG juggernauts of the east and a 1st round pick.
Nets get a suitable replacement for Lopez and a back-up to Farmar (18.9 PER, really?).

by 81 Witness on Jan 30, 2012 5:36 PM PST reply actions  

Great trade for us!

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by x Nightwing x on Jan 30, 2012 5:45 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Mother Russia laughs at us

AMMO carried the Lakers to back-2-back titles and we couldn't even get LEWIS MONROE for him...

by Q.Calloway25 on Jan 30, 2012 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

this would be too good to be true

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by madmaxx350 on Jan 30, 2012 5:52 PM PST up reply actions  

exactly

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There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be committed against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the Limelight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.

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by BrittneyM on Jan 30, 2012 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Why would we want Antawn Jamison?

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by SoCalGal on Jan 30, 2012 6:15 PM PST up reply actions  

We don't

It’s about us taking the dead weight off of Gilbert. Stern’s got to be sick and tired of this dude kowtowing in his office every week.No way he vetoes this trade, tho he vetoed Paul for Pau and Odom.

by 81 Witness on Jan 30, 2012 7:44 PM PST up reply actions  

The problem is

it’s not really dead weight. Jamison is a massive expiring contract and I can’t see a team in full rebuilding mode getting rid of an expiring but productive Jamison for 3 years of Artest at like $7 million per and simply embarrassing performance.

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by steffun4tw on Jan 30, 2012 8:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't tell Dan that!

He gets Artest to guard against the 2s and 3s. He gets a 1st round pick next year. He gets rid of an expiring contract.

by 81 Witness on Jan 30, 2012 8:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Pardon me, but why the fuck should we take dead weight off Gilbert?

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by SoCalGal on Jan 30, 2012 8:38 PM PST up reply actions  

cuz its expiring dead weight.

instead of 3 years of dead weight (mwp).

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by LakersFoEva on Jan 31, 2012 7:40 AM PST up reply actions  

No way Nets agree to this.

Give up Williams/TPE for Pau/Blake?

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by LakerAce on Jan 30, 2012 9:17 PM PST up reply actions  

ok

thanx

bai

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by LakersFoEva on Jan 31, 2012 7:40 AM PST up reply actions  

oh and i said

there is no reason to fear the dear

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by BrittneyM on Jan 30, 2012 5:55 PM PST reply actions  

Clipper fans are jerks.

And here I was, going on Clips Nation, looking for a good debate. They huwt my feewings did a “great” job making me feel welcome.

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by SuperNerdToTheRescue on Jan 30, 2012 7:05 PM PST reply actions  

Just read it...

Bunch of jerks, and you were in no way being inflammatory or anything…

If you can't laugh at yourself... laugh at someone else

by x Nightwing x on Jan 30, 2012 7:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Meh, just leave 'em alone. They'll crash back to earth at some point.

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Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @MNTimberwolves.
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by SoCalGal on Jan 30, 2012 7:38 PM PST up reply actions  

The only guy who was a dick to you,

is just a dick in general. He comes on here and talks a lot and is just an ass in general. Don’t worry about ‘em, the ones like him talk crap about a guy rubbing some one else’s head, and parking in a handicapped spot while cheering for their racist slum lord owner. :/ There are some Clippers fans who’ve been like that, but there’s also been a lot of long time fans who are fine.

by Aethereal on Jan 30, 2012 8:06 PM PST up reply actions  

It was just that one guy

I’ve been on Clips Nation for a while (and a long time Clips fan) and no one besides the bandwagoners on that blog are that bad. Even then, it’s just a select few that are complete douchebags. And that guy was sadly one of them.

by Ricekrispy10 on Jan 30, 2012 10:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

It’s easy to think a fanbase is filled with assholes, because you’re most exposed to the assholes if you don’t go out of your way to know the majority of each fanbase.

by Aethereal on Jan 30, 2012 10:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I guess

Some of them were nice people though, one of them actually defended me.

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by SuperNerdToTheRescue on Jan 31, 2012 7:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Oops.
  • Some. Wow, that changed the whole meaning of the post.

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by SuperNerdToTheRescue on Jan 31, 2012 7:03 AM PST up reply actions  

lmao

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by Marty Mart on Jan 31, 2012 8:37 AM PST up reply actions  

So the Magic just lost bad again!!! They scored altogther 69 points

They have lost 4 str8 which is better for us. They might as well get it over with and trade D12 right now!

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by BIGBO on Jan 30, 2012 7:37 PM PST reply actions  

They now know they have no choice but to trade him

It’ll take until after the AS game. They can’t trade him before they host the AS game or they slap their fanbase in the face. After though it’s best offer, and we have the best pieces.

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by Chris Hines on Jan 30, 2012 8:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Chicago can offer a nice package

Plus That would b better than playing with Deron. Contender,Big Market, Young Superstar Mvp. I would have Chicago at the top of my list. Playing with Rose for years is Better than playing with the Lakers and Kobe for his last few years. If thats his choice…smart move

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by EmmCeee on Jan 30, 2012 9:39 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

I think the ASG being in Orlando is overrated as an excuse for keeping him

Its not like the ASG is gonna all of a sudden change his mind. Their fans see him every home game. Even if he’s traded he’ll still be in Orlando for the ASG. Otis is keeping him to squeeze the best deal possible out of potential teams.

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by EmmCeee on Jan 30, 2012 9:28 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

it's a service for the fans rather than to convince dwight

at least for that one day, the fans will be happy and cheering

by no stance on Jan 30, 2012 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Regarding the offense THNX KOBE AND GLOCK!!

regarding the giving up of 2nd and 3rd chance shots….THANX GASOL AND BYNUM!!

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by Jelly Bean on Jan 30, 2012 10:02 PM PST reply actions  

If you just look at the stats, its bad

But the bigs weren’t the only ones who gave up Offensive boards plus you hafta look at boards outside the paint where our bigs wont get em. They deserve their share of blame but by no means do they deserve all of it. The other guys need to block out also

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by EmmCeee on Jan 30, 2012 11:00 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Im sorry but Paul and Griffin are an exciting duo

I dnt know that Paul would have any fun playing the game on this squad. Hes having fun AND winning while The excitement factor for our games are zero lol An occasional Drew oop and Kobe fire session is all we get.

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by EmmCeee on Jan 30, 2012 11:11 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

I'm not sure bout this guyz
It shouldn’t then come as a surprise to see them 14th in the overall net efficiency rankings.

No team statistic should come as a surprise really, we’re less than 20 games into the season and haven’t even played against every single team.

Plus, the % values for each team and for every statistic are so clustered together and in such a narrow margin to begin that if you were to do an ANOVA test it would probably tell you that it is likely that all this data belongs to a single team.

Maybe I'll just fade into Bolivian

by Uncle Leo on Jan 30, 2012 10:03 PM PST reply actions  

We're actually 21 games into our season.

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by SoCalGal on Jan 30, 2012 10:05 PM PST up reply actions  

WHATEVER NERD

Maybe I'll just fade into Bolivian

by Uncle Leo on Jan 30, 2012 10:22 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

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by SoCalGal on Jan 31, 2012 6:28 AM PST up reply actions  

WOW Blake Griffin dunked on Perkins Sumthin serious.....

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by BIGBO on Jan 30, 2012 10:07 PM PST reply actions  

I heard Doc called Perk to console him

reminded him that STILL no one has beaten the starting five…

FUCK DAVID STERN for vetoing destiny.

by deadmuse on Jan 30, 2012 10:18 PM PST up reply actions  

LMAO!

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by PoPs_737 on Jan 30, 2012 10:22 PM PST up reply actions  

lol good memory

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by Jelly Bean on Jan 30, 2012 10:23 PM PST up reply actions  

lmao

the Clipper announcers on the post game are clowning Perkins

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We arent winning anything this year - Lakergirl (January 28th, 2012)

by Jelly Bean on Jan 30, 2012 10:18 PM PST up reply actions  

dang! Fox Sports West is showing that dunk so much

One of the sickest dunks I have EVER seen.

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We arent winning anything this year - Lakergirl (January 28th, 2012)

by Jelly Bean on Jan 30, 2012 10:19 PM PST up reply actions  

SICK!!! thnx for the link.

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We arent winning anything this year - Lakergirl (January 28th, 2012)

by Jelly Bean on Jan 30, 2012 10:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh wow O_O

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by PoPs_737 on Jan 30, 2012 10:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Coach has to meet us halfway

by Mambatsuna on Jan 31, 2012 12:33 AM PST up reply actions  

That shit CRAY!!

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by BIGBO on Jan 31, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

we are so starved of ferocious dunks these days

that these pseudo dunks by Griffin are just made to be more than what they are. This was definitely a nice facial, but folks have been overblowing this dunk

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by Marty Mart on Jan 31, 2012 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Seriously.

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @MNTimberwolves.
Tweetness

by SoCalGal on Jan 31, 2012 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

All these quality wins by the Clips...

I can’t help but think you damn bastard David Stern

by lwood24 on Jan 30, 2012 10:17 PM PST reply actions  

Personally I'm glad that if the Lakers couldn't get him that he ended up on the Clippers

Imagine if he ended up the Celtics, Heat or any of those teams? The Clippers are going to F this up.

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We arent winning anything this year - Lakergirl (January 28th, 2012)

by Jelly Bean on Jan 30, 2012 10:21 PM PST up reply actions  

OMG! I was so impressed with the Blake dunk I went to the Clippers blog to

give him props…shit they really are puffing their chests up. I started reading some of their comments. daaaaaaang! And I am sure its not all of them but shit. I have never met a Clippers fan to be a jerk. dang I’m almost afraid to lurk back and see if they set fire to my post.

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We arent winning anything this year - Lakergirl (January 28th, 2012)

by Jelly Bean on Jan 30, 2012 11:37 PM PST reply actions  

They have a good team for once. They deserve to be excited

by LAL32 on Jan 31, 2012 5:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Well my weekly F*** Howard post.

Brand,Battie and Lavoy Allen held Dwight to 17-11 6-17 shooting and 5-13 freebies…Who in the hell is Lavoy Allen lol
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by EmmCeee on Jan 31, 2012 6:41 AM PST via Android app reply actions  

17-11 is a good night for drew…..

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by LakersFoEva on Jan 31, 2012 7:48 AM PST up reply actions  

lol he wont get 17 shots

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by EmmCeee on Jan 31, 2012 7:55 AM PST via Android app up reply actions  

hahahhahahaha

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by EmmCeee on Jan 31, 2012 8:43 AM PST via Android app up reply actions  

you bit on the pump fake blue

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by EmmCeee on Jan 31, 2012 8:44 AM PST via Android app up reply actions  

And Bynum missed regularly over Drew Gooden

what’s the point

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by Marty Mart on Jan 31, 2012 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Dwight does it too.

He’s human after all.. who woulda thunk it.
#PeterGriffinLaugh

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