What should be done?

by Yellow_Evan on Jan 22, 2012 10:41 AM PST

With the Lakers loss to Orlando on Friday, and Miami on Thursday, something needs to be done. Some of you might disagree with me on this, but in all fairness, and honestness, Mitch Kupchak needs to go. Why did he trade Lamer Odom to the champions? And for nothing really? He's gone from an F manger to an A+ manger and now to a F manger. Wtf is he doing? Either way, roster moves are needed. Despite all this, we are an impact player PG away from an NBA title. The problem is we have nothing to give other teams that they want. Metta World Peace? He's an old fart and a headcase. Steve Blake? Nothing special about him, he is just Steve Blake, and Steve Blake only. Derek Fisher? Too old to have any trade value. Devin Ebanks? Most people don't know he is this good because he does not get his chance. Matt Barnes? He has the most trade value IMO of the five players listed, but not sure if he is an impact player.

Any thoughts on this would be welcome.

Poll

Who do you think has the most trade value of the five players

Devin Ebanks

38 votes

Matt Barnes

48 votes

Steve Blake

12 votes

D-Fish

3 votes

MWP

15 votes

116 votes | Poll has closed

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we probably couldn't even get shannon back with all those players...

Look at you: member of the honor roll, assistant to the assistant manager of the movie theater. I'm tellin' ya, Rat, if this girl can't smell your qualifications, then who needs her, right? Mike Damone (Fast Times at Ridgemont High)

by Gazoo on Jan 22, 2012 11:22 AM PST reply actions

Yea, our only real trade option is Pau

by Yellow_Evan on Jan 22, 2012 11:37 AM PST up reply actions

LOL, Mitch is in good company, I'd say.

He’s gone from an F manger to an A+ manger and now to an FA manger.

Sorry, couldn’t help it.

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by SoCalGal on Jan 22, 2012 11:37 AM PST reply actions

I'm just laughing here in my crib.

Y_E, not that Mitch makes all the personnel calls in a vacuum anyway, but how would you rate him if David Stern hadn’t exercised veto power?

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by Koshu on Jan 22, 2012 2:24 PM PST up reply actions

A B

by Yellow_Evan on Jan 22, 2012 5:16 PM PST up reply actions

Might wanna fix the poll's phrasing

as to ur question: we really don’t have anyone playing exceptionally well to be used as trade bait but our bigs, kobe, and blake, and barnes. Blake prolly most valuable to team’s looking for back-up pg and barnes good for someone needing defensive and hustle presence

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by Marty Mart on Jan 22, 2012 1:21 PM PST reply actions

i want Farmar back

"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess." -Kobe Bryant

by hrghori on Jan 22, 2012 2:46 PM PST reply actions

I do too, or Gaines. NJ has 3 decent PG's that deserve playing time, but they rotate sticking Farmer and Gaines on the Pine since they have more talent at PG than they have space for

BUT… the thing is that if we get Farmar, then the Nets will be left with only 2 serviceable PG’s, which means they will want more for D.Williams, since they will be left with a gaping hole at PG if they give up both D.Will and Farmar. Best bet IMO, is to wait, trade for D.Will when the time comes up (after Howard is traded to any team but the Nets), then let the Nets start Farmer and let Gaines be his backup.

*I haven’t seen Gaines play, but he was on my fantasy team for much of the season and he put up decent enough stats.

by neokoros on Jan 22, 2012 11:44 PM PST up reply actions

If NJ doesn't get Howard, then they're in full rebuild mode, so Farmar can probably be had for a pick or something.

Doesn’t really matter what happens in the short-term. In fact, the worse they suck, the better, especially for this draft.

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by Ben R on Jan 23, 2012 2:09 AM PST up reply actions

LOL, D-Fish has no votes, not even one.

by SoCalGal on Jan 22, 2012 3:04 PM PST reply actions

Billy Cundiff is prolly the only person in this moment in time with less

value than Fisher

by Marty Mart on Jan 22, 2012 3:27 PM PST up reply actions

lol

by shawism on Jan 23, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions

Some players have negative value, that is, teams wouldn't take them if they they give up nothing in return because they aren't worth their salary or a roster spot

I think I just wrote a Merriam-Webster definition for Fish

by neokoros on Jan 22, 2012 11:38 PM PST up reply actions

a.k.a someone who is not capable of playing in the NBA

by Yellow_Evan on Jan 23, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions

none of those guys have value, really

Has to be Gasol and/or Bynum if you want to make significant changes. Also, I wouldn’t be so harsh on Mitch. The Odom trade looks bad right now, but he’s probably going to get someone before the deadline with the TPE. Plus, he tried to fix our woes with that ummm…other trade.

by shawism on Jan 23, 2012 12:04 AM PST reply actions

The sad thing is that the Paul trade actually showed that the FO knew what they were doing.

They knew that we needed a real PG for this offense, that Kobe needed someone to complement him, and that it would make life easier for the remaining bigs. Moreover, we still would have had a $8.9 million TPE to throw around for another four. So if anything, Stern derailed this season from the start.

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by Ben R on Jan 23, 2012 2:08 AM PST up reply actions