The Los Angeles Lakers Are A Broken Model
It was always going to be tough to get anything out of Florida. With one of the best teams in the league in the Miami Heat last night, and a very good Orlando Magic team tonight, a victory in either game would have been reason to celebrate. In order for positives to be taken from this short little two game road trip, a few things had to go right. Nothing did.
The trouble isn't that the Lakers lost. The trouble is that the Lakers lost in such a way as to make you believe they could have been given many, many chances without tasting success. Through all the highs and lows this team has gone through in the past few seasons, they have rarely been outclassed so thoroughly as they have in the past 48 hours. The most apt analogy I can think of for the Lakers is that of a fancy, expensive entertainment system. They've got the great 3D-TV, awesome surround sound speakers, and an amazing Wi-Fi Blu-Ray player ... all the items that draw your attention and make you think you've got a great product. But then you start trying to piece together the framework for all that awesome stuff to stand on, and you find out the wood's actually cardboard, you've got all the wrong screw sizes, and the instructions are in Swahili.
The Lakers have decent talent, if only because the top of their roster remains on par with just about anybody in the league. But the rest of the team is so shabby that you'd send the whole thing back to the store if you could.
This is important because the Lakers got a first hand glimpse of the other side of the equation tonight. On a pure talent equivalence, I'm not sure the Orlando Magic have more than the Lakers do. Dwight Howard is an amazing player, probably the most productive and important player on either team, but Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum are all miles better than anybody else on Orlando's roster. There's no second player in pinstripes that makes you think "I'd really love to have that guy on my team". But, whereas the Lakers seem completely incapable of being better than the sum of their parts, the Magic clearly fit together seamlessly.
As is their MO, Orlando scored more than 1/3 of their points from the three point line, with all four non-Howard starters hitting at least two threes and shooting above 40% on the night (only Jason Richardson failed to reach 50% shooting from distance). The Lakers shot 30% from three point range against the Magic's 44% ... and this was a good night for the Lakers from the outside. The only guys on the Lakers roster who can drain an outside shot are the team's biggest defensive liabilities ... Troy Murphy and Jason Kapono might be able to keep defenses honest, but they cause more problems than they solve. Metta World Peace played only 8 minutes on a night in which neither Matt Barnes nor Kapono were doing anything noteworthy. Darius Morris is getting 15 minutes a game in Steve Blake's absence and quickly quieting all those folks who thought he should be pushing Derek Fisher for playing time ... you look at this roster and can't help but think there are no good answers to be found.
On a night that was billed as a possible audition for pretty much every player on the court besides Kobe Bryant, Dwight Howard was able to show that he might just be worth Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum. He certainly provided more than both Lakers did combined. By putting Bynum in early foul trouble, Howard guaranteed that the Lakers wouldn't be able to take advantage of which ever big wasn't his defensive responsibility. Bynum probably failed to impress the Orlando front office, but that doesn't matter, because any Bynum for Howard trade was never going to be about getting equal value, but about taking something instead of ending up with nothing. But the biggest potential outcome of tonight's rag tag purple and gold effort? If I'm Dwight Howard, I might be having some serious reservations about joining the Lakers. Sure, playing with Kobe Bryant would probably be pretty awesome. Running with Pau Gasol (or whichever decent players come in with his departure) sounds like a good time. But, if you switched Howard for Bynum straight up, the Lakers still wouldn't be a soundly constructed team. You can't help but watch a game like this and think about what I said weeks ago.
If the Lakers trade for Dwight Howard, they will simply be a better version of themselves. Seeing the way this team plays on a daily basis, that sure doesn't seem like it would be good enough.
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Yes indeedy. Great autopsy report, Chris.
Dwight Howard was able to show that he might just be worth Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @Orlando_Magic.
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lol
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by bluexfalcon on Jan 21, 2012 12:12 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
they need to move bynum and a 1st rder for howard....
pau is playing lazy..send him somwhere for a shooter or a pg…stephon curry maybe..then try and get kevin love b4 he resigns with the t-wolves..maybe he’d like to go back to LA
by paul wall 1962 on Jan 21, 2012 8:01 AM PST up reply actions
Why trade both for Howard when the Magic will lose him for nothing if they dont settle on only Bynum?
Lakers have all the leverage. That leaves the Gasol for D. Williams still on the table.
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by cerebralfish on Jan 21, 2012 9:49 AM PST up reply actions
The Magic is not that high on Bynum.
"You have to figure out a way to get it done. There's no time to make excuses. If I play bad or have one bad game like I did in Denver, everybody cries for a change, or cries for the fact I'm too old ... I make adjustments and go from there."
-- Bryant on his performance against the Suns
by BoneCruncher24 on Jan 21, 2012 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
Bynum is the best trade they can make before Howard walks out and leaves them with nothing.
"I dont hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around." -Bukowski
by cerebralfish on Jan 21, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
I wish the Lakers had the Spurs front office sometimes.
by E-ROC on Jan 20, 2012 9:17 PM PST via Android app reply actions
is this the newest post?
it’s not on the front page
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 20, 2012 9:32 PM PST reply actions
Yup, can't see it either on the front/home page.
"You have to figure out a way to get it done. There's no time to make excuses. If I play bad or have one bad game like I did in Denver, everybody cries for a change, or cries for the fact I'm too old ... I make adjustments and go from there."
-- Bryant on his performance against the Suns
by BoneCruncher24 on Jan 21, 2012 2:07 AM PST up reply actions
yeah i had to get here through my facebook
"These are young men with too much money and too much fame for something as relatively inconsequential as sports, but this is entertainment." --Phil Jackson
by lakerdynasty on Jan 21, 2012 8:16 AM PST up reply actions
Pakistani's not a language
Last I checked. Agreed with the rest of the piece. It’ll be interesting (/horrifying) to see how this team progresses.
Not that we don’t have personnel problems, but we should be getting much more out of the pieces that we have. In terms of the bench, I don’t think we’re terribly far away. One lightning-quick PG (Aaron Brooks?) capable of penetration could tie our disparate bench pieces together the way Farmar was the sparkplug for our Bench Mob the one year we had a good bench.
Sigh…on to the next one…
Yeah, that part got me too.
Maybe Farsi is what he was going for?
by mambahunter on Jan 21, 2012 3:08 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
I think that makes the analogy even stronger
but point taken =). I was simply going for an obscure language, and landed on one that didn’t even exist.
Magic was on to something last season
Blow the team up and get as many good young pieces, draft picks and cap space as we can and keep it movin. This team isnt gettin any younger and wont win a title as is so why wait? If trading Drew and Pau nets Howard which might give us the cap room to get Williams in the offseason we should do it. No Fish, Metta, or Luke. 2 1st round picks, more seasoned 2nd year players and we’re good.
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by EmmCeee on Jan 20, 2012 9:39 PM PST via Android app reply actions
Magic cares about whatever team is making noise and doing well.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @Orlando_Magic.
Tweetness
Soonest we can realistically get under the cap isn't until 2013 - 2014.
And most likely, not until 2014 – 2015.
Keep in mind ORL don’t have that much flexibility going forward either. If Dwight sticks around to the end of the season and they don’t get a ring, there’s little Otis can do to change
by mambahunter on Jan 21, 2012 3:19 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
magic has been saying that since 2008...
you know, he’s actually right. why doesnt jim buss realize that as well.
by Mark Jaramillo on Jan 21, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
We tried a trade
it didn’t work. back to the drawing board
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 20, 2012 9:56 PM PST reply actions
game winning 3
for Love
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 20, 2012 10:24 PM PST reply actions
instructions in pakistani?
being in los angeles you should at least know a few pakistani people and that pakistani is not a language, besides that i enjoy the blog, well written and good analysis
Kobe is the ONLY one who played great and with effort the whole game(every game really).
The rest of the guys needs to step up and play with effort EVERY night. I know it was the 2nd game of a back-to-back but so was Kobe, so they can’t use that excuse. And to think that he’s injured as well. As for LAL’s 2 7footers to be outrebounded by Dwight all by himself, I’m just lost for words. Most of the times rebounds are all about effort. Mike Brown needs to focus in the offense now, the defense is doing fine.
"You have to figure out a way to get it done. There's no time to make excuses. If I play bad or have one bad game like I did in Denver, everybody cries for a change, or cries for the fact I'm too old ... I make adjustments and go from there."
-- Bryant on his performance against the Suns
by BoneCruncher24 on Jan 20, 2012 11:36 PM PST reply actions
Tbh
There were far more opportunities for Dwight due to the Lakers horrible shooting. Drew was in foul trouble so he wasnt on the court enough to make a difference. Stats can b misleading
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by EmmCeee on Jan 21, 2012 12:05 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
agree
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by bluexfalcon on Jan 21, 2012 12:14 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
It's his 6th game of the season with a double double.
It only makes sense as well that more rebs would come with more misses. No C grabs 20 rebounds if the teams are shooting well.
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
I got it
Tradr Bynum and pau for Howard(which will probably result in a 2nd round exit) but the point is that we’ll have cap space to sign deron this summer. Williams, Kobe, and Dwight sounds like a sick ass big 3. After we let go of walton we’ll have more space. Then maybe odom will opt out and sign with us again. (wishful thinking, I know) but I rather suck this season and seriously contend for the next 3 years than just continue to struggle for the next couple of years. Thoughts ?
by drake m on Jan 20, 2012 11:38 PM PST via mobile reply actions
We won't have cap space to sign Deron Williams, the only way to get him is through trade.
The Lakers will need to get other player/s besides Dwight for the salary to match and that player might include Turkoglu who have a bad contract.
"You have to figure out a way to get it done. There's no time to make excuses. If I play bad or have one bad game like I did in Denver, everybody cries for a change, or cries for the fact I'm too old ... I make adjustments and go from there."
-- Bryant on his performance against the Suns
by BoneCruncher24 on Jan 20, 2012 11:55 PM PST up reply actions
D-Will not be easy...haha
But I think we still have the amnesty clause on a player…while everyone may be clamoring for Luke and Metta…we could potentially use it on a Turkoglu’s terrible contract!!
I think we can't use the amnesty on Turkoglu if we get him.
"You have to figure out a way to get it done. There's no time to make excuses. If I play bad or have one bad game like I did in Denver, everybody cries for a change, or cries for the fact I'm too old ... I make adjustments and go from there."
-- Bryant on his performance against the Suns
by BoneCruncher24 on Jan 21, 2012 12:29 AM PST up reply actions
Amnesty is only for players on the roster since the last CBA.
Using it on McRoberts or Troy Murphy, just as an example, wouldn’t be allowed.
Our best bet is to trade Metta and amnesty Blake. But unloading the former won’t be easy.
by mambahunter on Jan 21, 2012 3:24 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
Waive him.
Buyout his contract. There are options.’
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by EmmCeee on Jan 21, 2012 12:00 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
If we waive/buyout his contract doesn't it still count on the cap?
I think its only through amnesty that it will not count and we can’t amnesty Turkoglu based on the CBA.
"You have to figure out a way to get it done. There's no time to make excuses. If I play bad or have one bad game like I did in Denver, everybody cries for a change, or cries for the fact I'm too old ... I make adjustments and go from there."
-- Bryant on his performance against the Suns
by BoneCruncher24 on Jan 21, 2012 12:33 AM PST up reply actions
That's pointless and wasteful on many levels.
One, it will still count against the cap, so we’re not gaining anything financially by letting him go that way. Two, he actually fills a role for us between his shooting and ballhandling ability. Finally, all bad contracts become expiring at some point, and at that juncture, he’s an asset to be utilized.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Bynum + Gasol = around 36 million
Howard makes about 16 and Nelson makes 8.6(which can be covered with the odom exemption). Add deron next season(whose salary is also around 16) and it’s 32-34 million. To me it makes perfect sense. Yeah we’ll probably have to take on turkoglu’s 10 million but we can cut him next season.
by drake m on Jan 21, 2012 3:53 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Read Ben R's response.
If we get Howard+pieces through trade we’re still over the cap and for that reason the Lakers can’t sign Deron. The Lakers can only sign him in the off season if they have cap space and that is what Dallas is hoping for, IF Howard and/or Deron isn’t traded they’ll have cap space to sign 1 or both.
"You have to figure out a way to get it done. There's no time to make excuses. If I play bad or have one bad game like I did in Denver, everybody cries for a change, or cries for the fact I'm too old ... I make adjustments and go from there."
-- Bryant on his performance against the Suns
by BoneCruncher24 on Jan 21, 2012 5:56 AM PST up reply actions
le sigh
"Some time ago, I'm talking to some people and they wanted a bonus if the Lakers make the playoffs. I said, 'If they don't make the playoffs, you don't work here anymore.'" -- me
we're fucked
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by bluexfalcon on Jan 21, 2012 12:13 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
While troubling...
I’m still not convinced the model is broken. Although I’ve been figuring another significant piece would be added to the bench using the exception by the trade deadline.
Practically everyone is playing SO terrible right now it’s ridiculous. I mean, how can this last?
At any rate, no they aren’t ready to play the elite teams yet. Of course not.
Brown’s decisions lately have left me unsettled. I thought there was a good possibility he’d run this team into the ground (as they scream for him to STFU), and he might be doing that. I also find it troubling that he sees nothing wrong with the offense. Yeah, you’re missing open shots, but most of them were coming from the perimeter.
Has the I-talian offensive supergenius gone back home or something?
Kobe was rather wonderful in his decisionmaking, for most of the night anyway.
Like all the hysteria about him dying a couple weeks ago, I still might bet on everybody seeing things a bit more optimistically in another two. Despite the rampant ugliness.
Look People
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=73ers6r
We’ll amnesty turkoglu’s contract after this season and Nelson’s contract will essentially be replacing odom’s. Then hopefully deron will take a pay cut and come to LA. I guess odom signing back is outta the question. Makes sense
by drake m on Jan 21, 2012 4:04 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Can't amnesty players you trade for and Deron isn't going to take the midlevel.
Sheesh, at least check whether the things you want to do are legal before you suggest them.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Refs took away a nice game last night
Calling those 2 quick ones on Bynum hurt the NBA as a whole, not just the Lakers.
Bynum goes
4-6 10 points 12 rebounds 2 blocks in 26 minutes
Howard goes
6-14 21 points 23 rebounds 1 block in 45 minutes
I thought Bynum did a good job of playing GREAT defense on Howard, so much so that Howard was getting shut down and bailed out on a lot of foul calls cause the refs weren’t used to seeing it.
While some of the stuff was ticky-tack, the announcers were right that Drew wasn't playing Howard right.
Give him a degree of separation and force him to put up that bank shot over you instead of being able to use his quickness to blow by you and draw a foul. I thought Pau played him much better.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
THIS
Pau played Howard better defensively. If I remember correctly Bynum played him great last season, I don’t know why he changed how he played him this season.
"You have to figure out a way to get it done. There's no time to make excuses. If I play bad or have one bad game like I did in Denver, everybody cries for a change, or cries for the fact I'm too old ... I make adjustments and go from there."
-- Bryant on his performance against the Suns
by BoneCruncher24 on Jan 21, 2012 6:00 AM PST up reply actions
yup much better Bynum.
He still has much more to learn regarding faster opponents with suspect 8-12ft Js.
Pau played much, much better on Howard.
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by bluexfalcon on Jan 21, 2012 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
Were we watching the same game?
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @Orlando_Magic.
Tweetness
I was.
A defensive player has the same right to a spot as offensive. If Drew “rides” Howard into the lane, not giving him the ability to move closer to the basket, that’s actually not a foul. No one is used to Howard not being able to bully his way to the spot he wants, which he simply can’t do against Bynum.
The truth of the matter is, whether you think Bynum’s method was “better” or not than Gasol’s…it didn’t warrant the foul calls that he received for it.
But if Howard jumps and you're still leaning into his body
it’s a foul, which is what Drew was doing
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
refs dictate
refs called ticky tack fouls on bynum…and yet kobe continues to get mugger trying to dribble out of a double team…kobe doesn’t get the same calls as lebricka nd dwade…the league doesn’t want kobe in the finals…simple as that
the league doesn’t want kobe in the finals
Sacramento Kings calling for you on line one sir.
Prediction: the 3-4 will be out of style in two years.
So no, I will not shut up about stupidity.
by bdawk4ever on Dec 11, 2011 1:39 PM EST
"It's been 9 years. Get over it" calling for you on line 2.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @Orlando_Magic.
Tweetness
by SoCalGal on Jan 21, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This is what amuses me about some fans on here
We all bitch about the players we have yet when better options are given they get shot down.
For instance, OJ Mayo is a clear upgrade over Kapono to backup Kobe. Younger faster quicker more athletic can actually drive and finish and better defense. Why wouldn’t we see if he can b picked up?
Gilbert Arenas. All i hear is no no no to Gil. Why? Is he not better than Fisher and Morris? A clear upgrade who can drive dish and shoot coming off the bench. He would come cheap on a short term deal. Why not try and catch lightning in a bottle with gil? He cant possibly do any worse. Personally id explore both of these options because what we have is garbage and we need people who have proven they can contribute while clearly being better than what we have.
#TeamMayoAndGilbert
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by EmmCeee on Jan 21, 2012 12:21 PM PST via Android app reply actions
we can do much better
if we’re going to make a trade for Mayo or do a signing for Arenas that’s why. I’m not trying to waste our only assets to be an even more marginal competitor
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Much better how?
For one, Arenas isn’t even worth mid-level, he’d be on vet min. and Mayo might not even force us to use the TPE. Secondly, it isn’t like we have much to work with Marty. Mayo isn’t going to make us a “marginal competitor”.
A lot of people still think this is a championship caliber squad, but are missing one or two pieces. Mayo would cover two things we desperately need. Person who can create their own shot, and an ACTUAL 6th man.
AMMO carried the Lakers to back-2-back titles and we couldn't even get LEWIS MONROE for him...
by Q.Calloway25 on Jan 21, 2012 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
To get Mayo
you have to make a trade. mayo isn’t that missing piece. He’s doing much better than last year, offensively. And he’s still terrible on defense which is why he can’t get the start over Tony Allen who is a horrible offensive player. he can create his own shot in spurts all he wants to, but who are we trading to get him
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
What amuses me is how anyone thinks it matters one damn what we think on here since we're not making any decisions.
We all bitch about the players we have yet when better options are given they get shot down.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @Orlando_Magic.
Tweetness
Then why are you on this site voicing your opinion along with everyone else?
Its amusing out of all the things i mentioned you choose to reply to the non basketball related option. lol
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by EmmCeee on Jan 21, 2012 1:28 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
LOLWUT
If you can find a comment anywhere on this site where I suggest a trade to the FO, or “shoot one down” (because I have so much power like that) other than to say I don’t like a player and wouldn’t want him on the team, please post it here. Go all the way back to October 2009 if you need to. I’ll wait.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @Orlando_Magic.
Tweetness
I said voicing your opinion
Didnt name anything in particular. Jus generally speaking. If you dont have anything productive to add then why choose ta comment about it? I care as much about your opinion as the Front office cares about mine. lol it is what it is
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by EmmCeee on Jan 21, 2012 4:20 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
LOL, so I'm not supposed to voice my opinion on anything because you don't like it?
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @Orlando_Magic.
Tweetness
You must not read what i actually write..
All my responses have been pretty straightforward. Where you draw your conclusions are a mystery to me. You voice your opinion on this site like everybody else even tho the FO or individual players dont give a damn about your opinion either. i dnt see the logic in your responding to my post if your not someone who comments on potential trades. I cant put it any clearer than that.
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by EmmCeee on Jan 22, 2012 11:23 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
#TeamHoward
that’s a trade
shoot one down as in “meh” “no” “do not want”
not as in I don’t agree so I’ll say no and you stop talking about it. lol
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by bluexfalcon on Jan 21, 2012 11:44 PM PST up reply actions
And if you can find somewhere this came from me, post it.
not as in I don’t agree so I’ll say no and you stop talking about it. lol
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Captain Obvious, er, MagicJohnson: Kobe, Bynum & Gasol all must step up big to beat the @Orlando_Magic.
Tweetness
isn't that what being a fan is about?
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by bluexfalcon on Jan 21, 2012 11:43 PM PST up reply actions
Blue its a lost cause
She draws unrelated conclusions and comments on em as if you actually said em. See above responses. lol
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by EmmCeee on Jan 22, 2012 11:25 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
Howard makes us better, but not close to perfect yet.
The other pieces would have to fall into place.
The 3rd team in this trade is pivitol..!
Will it be Minnesita or Houston?
Will we end up with Love or Scola?
It’s getting late Jimmy………….
We’re looking old Jim…………..
Sigh...
I wish people would stop posting "Forget Dwight!!! We Need Williamz!!!! , Do these people understand that Deron isn’t available? It has been said many times over. He is not an option unless Dwight becomes a Laker! Period. Point. Blank.
Next thing is the ridiculous notion that we can sign Deron in the offseason. Ok, let me break it down. The Lakers are 29 million dollars over the salary cap. Pau and Andrew combine for over 34 million dollars. You get rid of both and the Lakers only have 5 million in cap room. Luke Walton and Metta combine for a little over 12 million….So in 4 players we have invested over 46 million dollars when there is a 58 million dollar salary cap.
So the only way Deron becomes a possibility is through a trade for Pau, whether direct or through a 3-team trade. Problem is, Dwight showed last night why Drew for him isn’t as equal as most Laker fans once thought.
This is about as close to reality that it can get for us getting both, yet I’m sure someone in this trade got raped:
Orl: Drew, Scola, Dragic , Morris, 1st rounder
NJ: Nelson, Martin, Ebanks, M.Morris, 1st rounder
Hou: Gasol, Blake
LAL: Howard, Williams, Turkoglu
AMMO carried the Lakers to back-2-back titles and we couldn't even get LEWIS MONROE for him...
Good trade for the Magic.
I don’t think that NJ would do that though, lol… Very creative nonetheless.
by x Nightwing x on Jan 21, 2012 6:27 PM PST up reply actions

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