The Credits: "Ides Of March"
Kobe Bryant wants a trade, now. And he's got before the 15th of March to make it happen. For Kobe, these next couple years are going to be his last chances to surpass Michael Jordan in rings. And we know he's all about winning, according to assistant Chuck Person:
Kobe is lethal to the 10th power. This guy has an unending thirst for winning, and he shows it in practice every day -- when he's able to.
With the Lakers struggling against good teams this year, Kobe is ready to pull the trigger. He's desperate to improve the team. He's desperate for Dwight Howard. How desperate?
Kobe Bryant has had at least one in-depth phone conversation with Howard recently, even discussing how Howard might fit in with the Lakers' scheme.
One person with knowledge of the conversation said Howard came away feeling as if he wouldn't be the Lakers' top option, for obvious reasons. It's Bryant's team.
Kobe has always been active when it comes to potential additions to the team. Now he has to prove to Dwight that teaming up with him will get him a ring. He's shown he can still score, giving 4 straight games of 40+ points. Now he's proving a big man can flourish next him, dishing 7 assists and Gasol scoring 26 points.
Tonight's matchup against the Magic will prove to be monumental. Is this an audition of sorts? Of the Laker system for Dwight? Of Bynum to the Magic?
"It’s going to be fun,’’ Bynum said. "I don’t really think it’s that big of a matchup. It’s just a regular season game for me. I want to go out and play hard, and I’m going to try to score, and I’m sure he is, too. … Everybody else is saying (it’s a big matchup between the two), but not me. I’m just going to play my game.’’
More Links After the Jump...
Lakers News:
- Heat 98, Lakers 87 - Lakers blog : The Orange County Register
- Mike Brown uses fourth to build confidence - Lakers blog : The Orange County Register
- Miami is now 5-0 without Wade -- what's it mean? - CBSSports.com
- Lakers hit points of no return in Miami - latimes.com
- Lakers have no fight, and that's no good - latimes.com
- Lakers-Magic center swap might be on back burner - latimes.com
- Up next for the Lakers: Friday at Orlando - latimes.com
- Lakers almost a no-show against Miami in 98-87 loss - latimes.com
- Five things to take from Lakers' 98-87 loss to Miami Heat - latimes.com
- Road woes continue | james, bryant, lakers - Sports - The Orange County Register
- Lakers Big 3: Where do Kobe, Bynum, Gasol rank? | big, season, bynum - Sports - The Orange County Register
- Brown tests starters to gauge their tenacity | bynum, lakers, brown - Sports - The Orange County Register
- Andrew Bynum gears up to face Dwight Howard - Lakers blog : The Orange County Register
- Lakers Friday preview: at Orlando Magic (10-4) - Lakers blog : The Orange County Register
NBA.com
- Lakers 87, Heat 98: Jan. 19 Running Diary " Lakers Blog
- All-Star 2012 Second Returns " Lakers Blog
- Air Check: The Proper Way To Complain " NBA.com | Hang Time Blog
- And One: Fade To Green " NBA.com | Hang Time Blog
- Live From Orlando, It’s Dwight vs. ‘Drew " NBA.com | Hang Time Blog
ESPN:
- Los Angeles Lakers coach Mike Brown credits LeBron James for his job - ESPN Los Angeles
- Injuries in the compacted NBA season will determine the league's winners and losers - ESPN
- Heavy minutes hurt title chances - TrueHoop Blog - ESPN
Yahoo! Sports:
- Lakers' problems extend beyond loss to LeBron - NBA - Yahoo! Sports
- Nostalgia's gone for LeBron, Brown - NBA - Yahoo! Sports
- Penny Hardaway wonders why nobody seemed to get why he was hurting | Ball Don't Lie - Yahoo! Sports
- Russell Westbrook is set to take in a soon-to-be earned contract extension | Ball Don't Lie - Yahoo! Sports
- Hamed Haddadi is finally joining up with the Grizzlies | Ball Don't Lie - Yahoo! Sports
ProBasketball Talk:
- Cuban believes this year’s Mavs are better than last year’s | ProBasketballTalk
- Heat’s depth exposes Lakers’ serious lack of it | ProBasketballTalk
- Baseline to Baseline recaps: Samuel Dalembert saves the day | ProBasketballTalk
- Lakers, Magic not talking Dwight Howard trade; Kobe is talking to him | ProBasketballTalk
- Report: Utah Jazz willing to trade Devin Harris | ProBasketballTalk
- Charges may be dropped against Mavs coach Armstrong | ProBasketballTalk
Blogs and Other Links:
- Lakers assistant Chuck Person talks Mike Brown, Kobe Bryant, more - Sam Amick - SI.com
- Does the Lakers' Andrew Bynum compare with Dwight Howard? - Inside the Lakers
- Forum Blue And Gold " Lakers/Heat: Too Little, Too Late, Too Much LeBron
- Howard, Bynum audition amid trade rumors
- Laker Offense Still Questionable in Loss to Miami | Laker Nation
- LeBron James, Heat Run Past Cold-Shooting Lakers | Lakers Nation
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dang! nobody's here but us chickens...?
everyone must still be hungover from yesterdays stench fest.
"These are young men with too much money and too much fame for something as relatively inconsequential as sports, but this is entertainment." --Phil Jackson
Yeah, scared to show our faces.
For me its the consistent inconsistency that concerns me - PAGFL
It's always AMMO Time, in spirit- DexterFishmore
lebron should just lock himself away and not talk for the rest of forever-LA32
Do it Kobe!
However, one person in the Lakers’ organization has been talking to Howard.
Kobe Bryant has had at least one in-depth phone conversation with Howard recently, even discussing how Howard might fit in with the Lakers’ scheme.
One person with knowledge of the conversation said Howard came away feeling as if he wouldn’t be the Lakers’ top option, for obvious reasons. It’s Bryant’s team.
And of course Howard wouldn’t be the main focus of the offense. Duh!
I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things
Wait so are you on the #GetHoward
or not? lol I’m confused
http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2012/1/18/2716152/the-credits-like-mike#89116118
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by bluexfalcon on Jan 20, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
I think Howard is a better option over Bynum and if the Lakers
can make a trade for him i’m for it as long as it doesn’t involve any other key player like Gasol. But that is not what I am hoping for at all. If it was my choice I would go for a combo guard type player like Deron Williams, Devin Harris, OJ Mayo. If they did that, I would be more happy and it would solve all of their problems. Or most of them. So yes, I’m with getting howard, but If they don’t, then it wouldn’t matter to me.
I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things
Let's get Harris and Mayo!
forget about dwight for the mean time; as long as we have bynum on our team we still have someone to trade for dwight. lets focus on the bigger problem which is lack of shot creator.
"If at this stage of our careers we're the boring team, then we're the boring team. As long as we get results." - Kobe Bryant
"I like jewelry. ... I like winning," - Kobe Bryant
this still doesn't solve the fact
that we don’t have another creator on the perimeter, another ball handler.
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by bluexfalcon on Jan 20, 2012 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah..that is the biggest weakness that I rather see them fix
and should take a priority over Howard. What I’m afraid of is if the Lakers fill that void by trading Bynum. But, I doubt they would do that because if they did then that would mean that they would have done that with CP3.
I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things
Doea this mean howard wouldnt come here if hes not top option?
"They’re a very special group of men. Cherish them, you will not see their like again."
by chaucer on Jan 20, 2012 10:30 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Howard just wants to win and based on his personality
and what I have seen from a documentary that I have on him, he is much like Pau a sweet heart of a guy who doesn’t mind being a role player. Besides, the reception he would get here in LA would be crazy. He would feel like a king here. I remember how we all got when Shaq got here. He was treated like royalty. He will feel like a first option in LA.
I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things
Devin Harris is up for grabs
thoughts?
"If at this stage of our careers we're the boring team, then we're the boring team. As long as we get results." - Kobe Bryant
"I like jewelry. ... I like winning," - Kobe Bryant
lolololol
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=897uooe
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by bluexfalcon on Jan 20, 2012 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
i'll take that
"If at this stage of our careers we're the boring team, then we're the boring team. As long as we get results." - Kobe Bryant
"I like jewelry. ... I like winning," - Kobe Bryant
If I was going to trade Pau for Harrris I'd rather go with Bynum and Gasol to the Magic
for Howard, R. Anderson, Turkoglu, and either Jameer Nelson or JJ Reddick.
I’m not a huge fan of Harris and I don’t see any PG I’d trade Pau for outside of Derron Williams, who won’t be traded unless we get Howard. At which point we wouldn’t have the pieces to get him anyway.
"I'm a little worried about being a slut"
~ Bobby Hill
by Chris Hines on Jan 20, 2012 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
better than anything we have
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by bluexfalcon on Jan 20, 2012 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
No way
Millsap’s not good enough to make that work for me…
by x Nightwing x on Jan 20, 2012 11:24 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I agree with the two above, I wouldn't trade Gasol for Harris.
He’s not played up to his potential enough this year but he’s better than that.
"I'm a little worried about being a slut"
~ Bobby Hill
by Chris Hines on Jan 20, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
so who do you prefer?
Deron Williams? pipe dream bro. as per reports Magic’s owner isn’t high on Bynum even though he’s the best they can get for Howard as of the moment in addition to that they don’t want to lose another all time center to LA (shaq); and come to think of it BK of the Nets wont help build the dynamic duo that they’ve been dreaming of in another place.
if there’s anything we can do right now is to trade Pau for a PG and a quality PF. it is high time for us to do that.
lakers: howard + williams = possible but not likely
"If at this stage of our careers we're the boring team, then we're the boring team. As long as we get results." - Kobe Bryant
"I like jewelry. ... I like winning," - Kobe Bryant
funny to think that the Magic's owner isn't high on Bynum
He has everything against him. He better take that and run with it. Forget losing out on him but in reality, beggars can’t be choosers. His options are limited.
I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things
Well he's still weighing his limited options
with the nets scrambling to put together pieces + picks to entice Magic FO; I say we should do the same. We have to put Pau on the trading block lets see what we can get for him. In my wishful thinking if Howard doesn’t become a Laker we would still have a formidable playoff squad behind drew and kobe + quality pieces that we got for Pau. The only downside in this scenario is we dont have a trump card to force the Magic to send Howard to LA (trade deadline).
priorities for LA
1. shot creator
2. bench guys that can actually help
3. superstars (i.e. Howard and Deron)
I know that we have to prepare for Kobe’s inevitable decline (get a superstar) but we can’t put all of our eggs in one basket. Howard will be great but if Magic FO fcuks us then we’re basically……. DOOMED for the foreseeable future.
"If at this stage of our careers we're the boring team, then we're the boring team. As long as we get results." - Kobe Bryant
"I like jewelry. ... I like winning," - Kobe Bryant
I think Orlando is trying to stress that they want both Bynum AND Gasol.
If that’s the case then I really want to acquire Nelson and Anderson along with Dwight. We would also likely be taking on Turk’s contract in some way.
I actually don’t mind taking on Turk’s contract. By acquiring him and Nelson we will have 3 players that can handle the ball on the perimeter and create plays. It will also give us another 3 pt shooter, which we desperately need.
"In this league, you gotta learn to run on empty. Fuel level at zero, but still you run." -KB
This makes the most sense to me.
Trade Machine says that Bynum, Gasol, Ebanks, and Blake for Howard, Anderson, Nelson, and Turk works. Losing that kind of size hurts, but at this point I would gladly swap the size for the three point shooting and consistency on offense this would hopefully bring.
"I'm a little worried about being a slut"
~ Bobby Hill
by Chris Hines on Jan 20, 2012 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
that would be ammenable to me
in addition we should use the LO TPE for a quality big or a PG better than Nelson. Ryan Anderson is having a hell of a season but come playoff time we need to have another bruiser down low. I just dont think that Nelson would be good for us in the long run.
"If at this stage of our careers we're the boring team, then we're the boring team. As long as we get results." - Kobe Bryant
"I like jewelry. ... I like winning," - Kobe Bryant
The combination of Anderson and McRoberts makes a decent PF
What PG are you going after with the exception?
"I'm a little worried about being a slut"
~ Bobby Hill
by Chris Hines on Jan 20, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
I have no idea on who
Nelson aint the answer for our PG woes, undersized, defensive liability.
"If at this stage of our careers we're the boring team, then we're the boring team. As long as we get results." - Kobe Bryant
"I like jewelry. ... I like winning," - Kobe Bryant
Yeah, ever since the shoulder injury he has been below-average...
by x Nightwing x on Jan 20, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
It's hard to find a PG that matches up well though
Especially if your trading both Bynum and Gasol to the Magic. Others have said you’d be better off with keeping Blake and trading for Reddick instead of Nelson. Certainly a better option than Kapono.
"I'm a little worried about being a slut"
~ Bobby Hill
I'd rather get Reddick at this point.
Another possibility would be a 3 team deal in which we get a pg which another team would take Reddick/Nelson/etc, Orlando would get Bynum/Pau, and we would get a pg/Dwight.
by x Nightwing x on Jan 20, 2012 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
LOL - http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=73kmbqr
I’d love for this to happen!!!
by x Nightwing x on Jan 20, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
I'd be good with this as well haha
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7pttucg
"I'm a little worried about being a slut"
~ Bobby Hill
Works for me!
More goodies -
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by x Nightwing x on Jan 20, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
And, of course, the king of all trades -
by x Nightwing x on Jan 20, 2012 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
These trade machine trades are fun haha
"I'm a little worried about being a slut"
~ Bobby Hill
I'd want some other PF
Relying on some combination of McRoberts, Murphy, Artest, and Turkoglu to log minutes at PF doesn’t comfort me.
"I'm a little worried about being a slut"
~ Bobby Hill
I just don't see the PG-PF combo I'd be willing to ship Pau off for right now
Maybe Kyle Lowry and Luis Scola. But Lowry was never one of the players the Rockets talked about trading and he seems like someone to build towards the future with.
Harris and Millsap just don’t fit the bill for me. Harris just isn’t that good, I’d rather wait and see how things shake out then trade Gasol for him. Especially since we should be expecting Pau to improve from his current state at some point.
Eventually The Magic’s owner is going to realize it’s Bynum or nothing, and I can’t see them just risking him leaving on the outside chance they compete in the playoffs and he changes his mind.
"I'm a little worried about being a slut"
~ Bobby Hill
by Chris Hines on Jan 20, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd do Pau for Lowry straight-up!
by x Nightwing x on Jan 20, 2012 12:07 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I'd need Scola back The drop off from Gasol to McRoberts or Murphy would be huge.
"I'm a little worried about being a slut"
~ Bobby Hill
by Chris Hines on Jan 20, 2012 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
We could find someone else eventually.
I don’t think the Rockets would do a straight-up, nevermind both!
by x Nightwing x on Jan 20, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah Trade Machine says they couldn't do Lowry for Gasol
Like I said though I’m not even sure if they would be willing to trade Lowry. They liked Gasol before obviously, but at the time they were trading Scola and Martin with plans to sign Nene. Would they be so willing to trade Scola and the 3 year younger Lowry just to team Gasol with Dalembert? Seems like a long shot.
"I'm a little worried about being a slut"
~ Bobby Hill
by Chris Hines on Jan 20, 2012 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
Right. It won't happen, I was just speaking hypothetically I would trade Gasol for Lowry...
by x Nightwing x on Jan 20, 2012 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah just looking around the league at PG who might be available
He is on the short list of ones I’d trade Gasol for. I just wonder how Kobe plays with a young PG with no real star power. I mean I’d trust him to give the ball up for Paul or Williams, but someone like Lowry doesn’t have that kind of name around the league yet. Kobe’s never really had to give the rock up for any extended period of time to a PG before really.
"I'm a little worried about being a slut"
~ Bobby Hill
Yeah..I agree. It would be a tough sell
to give away Pau.
I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things
I want to believe that Devin Harris needs a change of scenery but I have my doubts.
He just looks awful out there with the Jazz. I would rather spend the trade exception on Andray Blatche or Anthony Morrow instead of Devin Harris. The Lakers would be buying low on Devin Harris, but that’s an expensive low. You could say the same for Blatche, but I think Blatche has more of a possibility turning it around than Harris. The Lakers need shooters in the worse way. Morrow could probably be had for pennies.
andray blatche = headcase
kobe would completely kick his bum ass
"If at this stage of our careers we're the boring team, then we're the boring team. As long as we get results." - Kobe Bryant
"I like jewelry. ... I like winning," - Kobe Bryant
Everything I've heard about the cat is negative from a personal stand point
plus I believe he very well may be looking at shoulder surgery if things don’t get better for him in that department.
"I'm a little worried about being a slut"
~ Bobby Hill
by Chris Hines on Jan 20, 2012 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
Its admirable that he's playing hurt with the bum shoulder.
The shoulder specialists says he needs extensive rehabilitation, but he has chosen to play on. I still like him. I don’t believe he’s as bad a teammate as has been reported.
It's kind of cold they boo'd him at home during warm ups yesterday haha
I know the team is awful, but dang. It’s not like he’s going to play better because of that haha.
"I'm a little worried about being a slut"
~ Bobby Hill
can't even explain it
fighting, talking to the media about touches, preaching like a vet playing like a rook you know what i mean?
"If at this stage of our careers we're the boring team, then we're the boring team. As long as we get results." - Kobe Bryant
"I like jewelry. ... I like winning," - Kobe Bryant
That whole Wizards team seems to be filled with bad eggs one way or another
I don’t know how much is media hype, frustration from being so bad, bad coaching/leadership, and actual bad attitudes but you never hear anything good.
"I'm a little worried about being a slut"
~ Bobby Hill
by Chris Hines on Jan 20, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
I've read about him fighting McGee.
Talking about touches doesn’t bother me. I still think he would fit well with the Lakers and presents an upgrade over Murphy and can play 4 and 5 positions. Lots of flexibility comes with him.
he's a definite upgrade
but his attitude is the problem.
"If at this stage of our careers we're the boring team, then we're the boring team. As long as we get results." - Kobe Bryant
"I like jewelry. ... I like winning," - Kobe Bryant
Im in favor of firing mike brown. or, give him a look with dwight and a pg on roster
"They’re a very special group of men. Cherish them, you will not see their like again."
by chaucer on Jan 20, 2012 10:29 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Why in the world would we fire Brown?
by x Nightwing x on Jan 20, 2012 11:00 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
because we are 10-6 and playing like shit. this offense is the worst lakers offense i have probably ever seen. this in spite of having 3 all stars on roster.
"They’re a very special group of men. Cherish them, you will not see their like again."
10-6 for a team that lost it's sixth man of the year?
Calm down!
by x Nightwing x on Jan 20, 2012 11:52 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Mike Brown isn't the one playing like shit.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Tweetness
Mike Brown does not deserve to be fired.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Tweetness
Would we be able to use Lamar's TPE for Devin Harris?
"These are young men with too much money and too much fame for something as relatively inconsequential as sports, but this is entertainment." --Phil Jackson
yea, for Millsap
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by bluexfalcon on Jan 20, 2012 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
we need a point guard though...
I take it you don’t like Harris?
"These are young men with too much money and too much fame for something as relatively inconsequential as sports, but this is entertainment." --Phil Jackson
by lakerdynasty on Jan 20, 2012 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
look up at my "lolololol" comment :)
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by bluexfalcon on Jan 20, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
i saw it...
but i thought it would be a straight up trade. I think Harris’ contract is around 9 million… and I thought Odom’s was around 8 million… I thought maybe the Lakers can pay the difference. I don’t know how all this shit works. I’m not one of those trade junkies, that’s why I asked.
"These are young men with too much money and too much fame for something as relatively inconsequential as sports, but this is entertainment." --Phil Jackson
by lakerdynasty on Jan 20, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
me either man, if it wasn't for the trade machine
I’d just sit around and wait for news. lol
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by bluexfalcon on Jan 20, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
lol
"These are young men with too much money and too much fame for something as relatively inconsequential as sports, but this is entertainment." --Phil Jackson
by lakerdynasty on Jan 20, 2012 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
but to answer you question, nah we can't use it for Harris
numbers don’t match up
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by bluexfalcon on Jan 20, 2012 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
Kirk's more likely I think
Not a huge fan of either one, but…
by x Nightwing x on Jan 20, 2012 11:20 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
the idea being here,
anything better than what we have lol
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by bluexfalcon on Jan 20, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
this^^
"These are young men with too much money and too much fame for something as relatively inconsequential as sports, but this is entertainment." --Phil Jackson
by lakerdynasty on Jan 20, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
we can try for both of them
sure
I’d just rather get Kirk since he’s a better three point shooter and within the TPE
Deron & Dwight
Nets’ Deron Williams has wish list
his short list of desirable destinations includes the Mavericks, the Knicks and the Lakers
…
Getting to the Lakers would be difficult for Williams because they will not have cap room in the summer and they lack the promising young prospects the Nets would look for in return.
…
they will not trade Williams for marginal players merely to avoid losing him for nothing in free agency. If Williams walks, the Nets will be left with enough cap room to sign two high-salaried players, which they view as a better option than eating up their cap space with average talent.
To get Deron at all, sounds like we’d have to land Howard first. (Hell yea!) I’ve read stuff from both Steve Kyler and Larry Coon that ORL isn’t high on Bynum, so we’d have to work in a third team.
And Pau for Deron doesn’t sound like an option, so that’d be another three-team deal.
Both moves would be last minute as well, considering both teams want to keep their guys and acquire other assets around them. Putting together two three-team deals in that amount of time will be a tall order. Still hoping Mitch can do it.
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