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Lakers-Heat Preview: The Great Debate Lives

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In the midst of our Battle for Los Angeles with the hoards of loyal Clippers fans now roaming the city, tonight we're forced to divert our efforts back to the greatest of wars we've had to fight in the past few years. Before there was Lakers vs. Clippers, or Jimmy vs. Jeanie, or Dwight vs. Andrew, there was Kobe vs. LeBron.

That this debates still feels unresolved, or that Kobe's refusal to grow old has "re-opened" the debate says a lot about these two stars. LeBron has yet to put his definitive stamp on the NBA as hands down best; meanwhile, Kobe still finds himself in a conversation that no player should be a part of after 16 seasons. As we continue to look for a definitive answer, Kobe's motivation and LeBron's fall from grace have set the perfect backdrop for a match-up we hope finally lives up to expectations. As Lakers fans, we know Kobe salivates over situations like this. As NBA fans, we hope that LeBron does too. As basketball fans, we hope this rivalry is only part of the game.

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It's only a regular season game, and if the Lakers lose, I'm sure I'll be in the the chorus claiming it's only one game, early in a season that makes no sense, and we should move on. The game should be viewed that way, but it won't be. It won't because it's the Heat and we know what it means to Kobe anytime he's matched-up against LeBron.

Of course, both players are going to be huge factors in how this game plays out. At least from our perspective, how this game is won most likely gets decided on the whims of Kobe. One thing we've seen Kobe do is look to obliterate everything in his path to showing everyone that he's still the same guy. When it comes to LeBron, there is no bigger fish to fry for Kobe in his quest to shut "motherfuckers up." LeBron is THE match-up everyone will look at to determine if Kobe is in fact "back" for real. No doubt Kobe is gearing up for tonight, looking to send yet another message. It's statement time for Kobe and it always boils down to these debates for him.

But how will he go about his business against the Heat? I never doubt Kobe's basketball skill, and I won't start now. If there are any one-sided arguments in the Kobe vs. LBJ debate, it's that Kobe's skill-set is greater than LeBron's, and that LeBron's athleticism is now far superior to Kobe's. Because of that, I'd like to see Kobe play the role of opportunist tonight. Currently, the Heat are ranked 7th in defensive efficiency, while they hold opponents to 43.0% FG (ranked 9th). They play a very active defense that closes gaps fast then takes away passing angles with swift rotations and quick feet. One wrong miss and LeBron and crew are off to the races, creating lay-up and dunk opportunities that have helped them along the way to one of best offenses in basketball. They rank 4th in efficiency and 2nd in pace. Their youth and athleticism is something the Lakers sorely lack, so the Purple and Gold will need to slow the game down and create efficient scoring opportunities, if only to limit Miami's transition. This is why the Lakers Kobe cannot afford to let Kobe do it all.

The Lakers will have an advantage in the post (as they do most nights), and feeding off Andrew Bynum's and Pau Gasol's advantages against Joel Anthony and Chris Bosh could benefit Kobe much more than them feeding off of himself. LeBron is far too athletic and far too good as a man defender for Kobe to look for his offense in iso situations 18-25 feet away from the basket. Instead, Kobe should look to create offense closer to the basket, via post-ups, cuts, and screens. By forcing action close, Kobe can force Heat defenders to help, possibly freeing up Bynum or Gasol down low (or mid-range for Pau). Plus there's the added benefit of slowing down the game by forcing fouls by the Heat. The Lakers can't shoot from deep. They currently rank dead last in the League with a paltry 25.0% clip from three-point range. Because teams don't have to respect the Lakers from outside, windows of good looks without a double team should close fast. If Kobe is going to continue to be the Lakers primary scorer and play maker, he must be swift, decisive and accurate in finding open teammates. As the Lakers are still learning whatever Mike Brown's system is, they still rely heavy on a superstar brand of basketball (oh, wait...that is Mike Brown's system). How Kobe balances his aggression against a potent fast break will be vital.

The Lakers, under Mike Brown, are currently ranked 5th in the NBA in defensive efficiency. The fact that they've managed to be so consistent on defense through the line-up changes and injuries to players like Josh McRoberts and Troy Murphy, along with Bynum's 4-game suspension, proves that Mike Brown has been as good as advertised as a defensive whiz. His Lakers have active and purposeful rotations that have led to opposing teams having all sorts of problems getting consistently good looks. Teams are shooting a woeful 40.9% from the field against the Lakers. Bynum cleans up everything on the boards, and when he doesn't, Pau does, creating fewer opportunities for teams to improve on the terrible shots the Lakers force them into. If you thought Monday's channel changing worthy offensive ugliness was bad, this game has every bit the potential to bore us as much if the superstar battle doesn't live up to the hype.

The set-up to this game has been perfect. The Lakers have been surprising, Kobe's put everyone back on his bandwagon, and LeBron has been struggling in the clutch. If Kobe knows his own ESPN #NBA Rank, surely he knows the man who sits on top of the very ranking he referenced after his 48-point outburst against Phoenix, and has put a huge target on this game. It's shaping up to be a game played out as Kobe sees fit, and I'm fine with that. No matter how dumb we think the debate is, we Lakers fans live for it. We've enjoyed Kobe's "F-You" tour because it validates our faith in him, and he's repaid that faith by simply willing himself to play better. Tonight the spotlight burns brighter, and there's no Dwyane Wade. It's all about Kobe vs. LeBron, so long as Kobe realizes his strengths and weaknesses.

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I hope the statement is MY team is better = Kobe Faciliator/2nd Half Killer

and not I’M better = overshoots

Pau and Bynum, please, please have a good game.
Derek, don’t look so old out there please.

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by bluexfalcon on Jan 19, 2012 2:36 PM PST reply actions  

Just take care of the damn ball

One wrong miss and LeBron and crew are off to the races, creating lay-up and dunk opportunities that have helped them along the way to one of best offenses in basketball. They rank 4th in efficiency and 2nd in pace

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Faith is remaining certain in the face of doubt. You’re not sure how it’s going to end, but you’re constantly of the belief that it will end the way you want it to and the way you always believed it to end, and that’s on top - Derek Fisher

by lakergirl on Jan 19, 2012 2:40 PM PST reply actions  

shit! we lost!

I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things

by Jelly Bean on Jan 19, 2012 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

something we don't do very well with.

If Lebron plays, Heat win the first of our regular-season series.
If he’s out…we win.

Lakers and Patriots forever.

by D.S.T. on Jan 19, 2012 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I meant we don't do well with limiting turnovers.

and I don’t think we will win if Lebron plays.

But I think we should win against the Heat in March.

Lakers and Patriots forever.

by D.S.T. on Jan 19, 2012 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

oof

thought that was the plan for all the eastern conference teams.

by shawism on Jan 19, 2012 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

read: Bobcats

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Faith is remaining certain in the face of doubt. You’re not sure how it’s going to end, but you’re constantly of the belief that it will end the way you want it to and the way you always believed it to end, and that’s on top - Derek Fisher

by lakergirl on Jan 19, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL. ok

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Faith is remaining certain in the face of doubt. You’re not sure how it’s going to end, but you’re constantly of the belief that it will end the way you want it to and the way you always believed it to end, and that’s on top - Derek Fisher

by lakergirl on Jan 19, 2012 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

you do realize my quote above was just sarcasm?

it wasn’t for a call to all non-believers. lol j/k. You have to believe the Lakers can win every game. IMO

I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things

by Jelly Bean on Jan 19, 2012 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco

by Marty Mart on Jan 19, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Seriously.

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
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by SoCalGal on Jan 19, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

why not?

Him over Fisher?

I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things

by Jelly Bean on Jan 19, 2012 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep

so he can turn the ball over and spot MIA some free points.

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Faith is remaining certain in the face of doubt. You’re not sure how it’s going to end, but you’re constantly of the belief that it will end the way you want it to and the way you always believed it to end, and that’s on top - Derek Fisher

by lakergirl on Jan 19, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

oh...got it

I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things

by Jelly Bean on Jan 19, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

#MoreDariusMorris!!

nodding my head…yezzzir!

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by EmmCeee on Jan 19, 2012 3:09 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

he'll be fine

they have their own rookie guard he can play against

"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco

by Marty Mart on Jan 19, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL, that dude won a game for them. Darius, not so much.

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
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by SoCalGal on Jan 19, 2012 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

He also hasn't been that great since that game

"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco

by Marty Mart on Jan 19, 2012 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Still, Cole - 1, Morris - 0.

Seriously, he just needs to slow down and play in control.

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
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by SoCalGal on Jan 19, 2012 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I know

and I think he will, but he never will be able to if he doesn’t play

"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco

by Marty Mart on Jan 19, 2012 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, I'm not saying he shouldn't play, really.

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
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by SoCalGal on Jan 19, 2012 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

he has been too aggressive on offense and needs to slow it down at times...

and has missed some layups and turned the ball over some, but his defense has been good—better than Chalmers a lot of the time.

GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!

by mjtig on Jan 19, 2012 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Chalmers offense has been much better than his though

"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco

by Marty Mart on Jan 19, 2012 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh yeah, not saying he's bad

I was just saying he’s been having his own troubles since his great endgame shooting

"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco

by Marty Mart on Jan 19, 2012 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

agreed

GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!

by mjtig on Jan 19, 2012 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

well if Bron is not out there with Wade being out already, the Heat wont be fast breakin' as much

they will have to grind it out by playing good D, Raptor offense with Bosh going off and good shooting. Without Bron’s points, it will be tough for the Heat to get the W.

GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!

by mjtig on Jan 19, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

He was sent home from practice today. Stomach issues.

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
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by SoCalGal on Jan 19, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

OMG!
When it comes to LeBron, there is no bigger fish to fry for Kobe in his quest to shut “motherfuckers up.”

I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things

by Jelly Bean on Jan 19, 2012 2:45 PM PST reply actions  

what is there to see here?

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Faith is remaining certain in the face of doubt. You’re not sure how it’s going to end, but you’re constantly of the belief that it will end the way you want it to and the way you always believed it to end, and that’s on top - Derek Fisher

by lakergirl on Jan 19, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

see comment below.

There are a lot of Lakers fans that watch the game in peace. I’m like BrittneyM, I can’t do that. I’m an emotional fan and I yell and scream and throw shit and this quote just reminded me of that.

I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things

by Jelly Bean on Jan 19, 2012 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

oh ok

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Faith is remaining certain in the face of doubt. You’re not sure how it’s going to end, but you’re constantly of the belief that it will end the way you want it to and the way you always believed it to end, and that’s on top - Derek Fisher

by lakergirl on Jan 19, 2012 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I try to contain my yelling during games because I live in a "good" building

but this quote just fired me up.

I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things

by Jelly Bean on Jan 19, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

If Kobe plays facilitator.

And starts feeding Bynum and Gasol inside, we should be able to win this. But if he lets his ego takes over and pull up too many iso’s or tries too hard just to emerge as the star of this match then i think we’ll lose. Wonder which one will turn up today? Have a feeling it’ll be the latter.

by poker on Jan 19, 2012 2:49 PM PST reply actions  

I have a feeling it will be whatever the team needs from him, because he always wants to win

"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson

"Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd." - Voltaire

by Gil Meriken on Jan 19, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Yup

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Faith is remaining certain in the face of doubt. You’re not sure how it’s going to end, but you’re constantly of the belief that it will end the way you want it to and the way you always believed it to end, and that’s on top - Derek Fisher

by lakergirl on Jan 19, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Indeed.

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
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by SoCalGal on Jan 19, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

pretty much.

I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things

by Jelly Bean on Jan 19, 2012 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

That doesn't always translate into wins

Its a possibility we could see another Denver type game with bad shot keep chucking Kobe or We could see ultra efficient Fill the stat sheet Kobe. Either one is entirely possible

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by EmmCeee on Jan 19, 2012 3:16 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

true

Thas why im hopin 4 Andrew “Shaq” Bynum tonight. 25 n 15 wit 3 blocks..Hes gonna steal the spotlight…You saw it here 1st.

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by EmmCeee on Jan 19, 2012 3:24 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

He should definitely pwn Anthony and whoever else that plays center.

Pau should neutralize Bosh, though I have my doubts. Chalmers will probably run circles around Fisher. Kobe should have a good game against Battier. Barnes and MWP will have their hands full with Lebron. It should be a close game, but I have doubts since Lebron-led teams seem to always beat the Lakers.

by E-ROC on Jan 19, 2012 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Kelly D is that you?

I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things

by Jelly Bean on Jan 19, 2012 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

and if he is the star of the match and we win?

"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco

by Marty Mart on Jan 19, 2012 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Bring a PG out of the crowd

They might want to let Kobe bring it up when fisher is out and just play Kapono at the 2. Morris is prone to dribbling out the clock and turnovers(much like Shannon was). His play will lead to too many fast break points for Miami.

by bdhawk45 on Jan 19, 2012 2:50 PM PST reply actions  

Anyone else a little disappointed Wade won't be playing?

I guess I feel like if the Lakers win with him out, I’ll still wonder if they would have won with him playing, and Heat fans will say that’s the only reason they lost. Of course, the Lakers aren’t at full capacity either, but missing Blake isn’t quite the same as missing Wade. And if the Lakers lose with Wade out, that’ll be very disappointing. Still, I hope for a good game and of course, I hope the Lakers win. Unfortunately I’ll miss the first half while in class, so hopefully there’ll be a good score waiting for me when I get home.

by Phil_Fan on Jan 19, 2012 2:53 PM PST reply actions  

A win is a win

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Faith is remaining certain in the face of doubt. You’re not sure how it’s going to end, but you’re constantly of the belief that it will end the way you want it to and the way you always believed it to end, and that’s on top - Derek Fisher

by lakergirl on Jan 19, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

great minds

I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things

by Jelly Bean on Jan 19, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

No one seemed to care who the Lakers were missing in the 08 Finals

A win is a win.

I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things

by Jelly Bean on Jan 19, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Celtics fan cares who they were missing in game 7.

Seriously annoying when they talk about missing Perkins in that game.

by poker on Jan 19, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

agreed. It is annoying.

I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things

by Jelly Bean on Jan 19, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

the refs were missing

21 FT attempts in the 4th quarter smh

by staticcc on Jan 19, 2012 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco

by Marty Mart on Jan 19, 2012 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

i'm serious

and they made Ray Allen go MIA for an entire series except for one game.

I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things

by Jelly Bean on Jan 19, 2012 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Since Wade isn't playing.

If the scores remaine close in clutch time, we should win as long as Miami’s ball is in Lebron’s hands and ours remains in Kobe’s right!

by poker on Jan 19, 2012 2:55 PM PST reply actions  

I'm going with my prediction

and say that we lose this game by a single digit. Miami plays very hard against us. Even without Wade, the team still proves that are worthy to beat tough opponents. We still have our weaknesses that we need to fix:

-Rebounds.
-Inconsistent offense.
-Defending the perimeter and 3-pointers.

Heat has a lot of weapons to use against us, and I feel that our team isn’t strong enough to face them yet.

Proud to be a brony.

by yoshifan on Jan 19, 2012 3:06 PM PST reply actions  

No!

I’ll have to record the game and watch it later. I’ll be in class the whole time!

Well GO LAKERS! This game should be an entertaining one.

"In this league, you gotta learn to run on empty. Fuel level at zero, but still you run." -KB

by PoPs_737 on Jan 19, 2012 3:08 PM PST reply actions  

I'd rather it was Lebron that was not playing today

always great to see Kobe go against Wade, always.

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"Fisher's defense is called escort service in my country, just accompany" -Ibou

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by madmaxx350 on Jan 19, 2012 3:15 PM PST reply actions  

Won't be home during gametime

Will have to watch it at like 8:30. Someway, somehow, I need to pray that I can refrain myself from any use of internet, any contact with friends, and just do what I need to do and watch the game without having someone ruin it. Fingers Crossed

This should be a great one.

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by steffun4tw on Jan 19, 2012 3:24 PM PST reply actions  

I feel your pain.

I’m in the same situation tonight

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by PoPs_737 on Jan 19, 2012 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Apparently Lebron is playing

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"Fisher's defense is called escort service in my country, just accompany" -Ibou

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by madmaxx350 on Jan 19, 2012 3:29 PM PST reply actions  

As long as we stop transition buckets and

close out well on 3s we shall be alright

"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco

by Marty Mart on Jan 19, 2012 3:53 PM PST reply actions  

Welp, then we're doomed.

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by SoCalGal on Jan 19, 2012 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

we lost

I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things

by Jelly Bean on Jan 19, 2012 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

That's just gross.

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by SoCalGal on Jan 19, 2012 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

lmao! oh shit. this caught me off guard

I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things

by Jelly Bean on Jan 19, 2012 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

LeBron has candida?

Must be because of all those powder tosses.

by mambahunter on Jan 19, 2012 4:47 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Kobe over lebron

but i think the lakers are gonig to lose tonight. we need to get the lakers some help

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by Czheck on Jan 19, 2012 4:06 PM PST reply actions  

Heat have kinda sucked at home so far this season. We need to take advantage of that.

However, we have sucked on the road, which could kill us. Conundrum.

The Lakers’ record stands at 10-5 (1-4 away) with the Heat at 9-4 (4-1 at home).

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by SoCalGal on Jan 19, 2012 4:07 PM PST reply actions  

Metta?

Time to get off that milk carton and start kissing your biceps.

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