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My Theory about Kobe's Higher Minutes

Many of us have attributed Kobe's higher minutes to the fact that he has less help. But is that really true? We still have Blake and Fisher. We got rid of Shannon and replaced him with Morris/G-lock/Kapono. Really, the major change has been in our frontcourt as Odom is gone.

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Let me present my theory:

Last year: Kobe Bryant plays lower minutes, sits out extended stretches, is happy about it, and compares himself to MJ who used to do that towards the end of his Bulls stint. Everything seems cool. Kobe even talks about eventually becoming "Mariano Rivera" and just coming in to close games when he's old.

Fast-forward to the playoffs: The team doesn't support Kobe. He helps to lead them past NOH (remember those monster dunks he put on?) and can't seem to get everyone together against the Mavs. That and the fact that Gasol got punked by Dirk and the Mavs were ridiculously hot from three-point range.

After the playoffs: Kobe is predicted to have a decline. He even lets reporters know that he feels disrespected. He feels that his team isn't ready to keep up with him anymore. He's lost faith to some extent. Jackson is gone. Mike Brown is in. Odom is gone. A bunch of new comers have arrived. The systems are totally different. What's the natural response?

Kobe decided: I've got to take the team on my back until they catch up to me or we get someone to help. That's why Chris Paul would've been a great piece. He'd have really lowered Kobe's usage rate and Kobe would have been comfortable sitting out longer stretches. But right now, Kobe wants to prove the doubters wrong. He isn't on a championship team. He's on a team with a lot of questions and he has decided to be the answer.

Just like always. Except that he's a lot older now. And more injured. I'm not scared that Kobe will start playing awful or tired. I'm most scared that his body won't do what he wants it to do. That's why I'm becoming convinced that the Chris Paul trade could have saved us. Instead, we're leaning on an older and more fragile Kobe. IF we get Howard, I think we'll still be title contenders but we need to get a PG/SG in the deal.

The issue is not that the team doesn't have help. It didn't have help for Kobe last year. It's that Kobe doesn't trust his team yet. And understandably. New coach. New systems. New bench. player turnover. In order to save Kobe from early injury, we need to give him legitimate backup - something he's never had for the last 4-6 years.

Thoughts? This is my first FanPost so let me know how I did.

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You start off questioning the general idea that Kobe's minute increase is due to a lack of help.

And you finish with the conclusion that Kobe feels he does not have enough help.

…what was the point?

by shoang1993 on Jan 19, 2012 7:13 AM PST reply actions  

hmm...I guess I should have rewritten the conclusion

Basically, I’m positing that Kobe has decided he needs to carry the team because he has things to prove and that he doesn’t trust his teammates to do it themselves. He did last year and it didn’t turn out so good. So now he’s back to Kobe-ball in order to win games. In reality, his help is about same as last year (I don’t think Shannon was much better than our current options). Blake is playing much better. It’s just that Kobe no longer believes that his team can manage without him playing the minutes he’s playing.

Lakers and Patriots forever.

by D.S.T. on Jan 19, 2012 7:24 AM PST reply actions  

there...fixed

does that new conclusion help?

Lakers and Patriots forever.

by D.S.T. on Jan 19, 2012 7:27 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm all for Kobe doing thing to prove a point etc. etc.

But Mike Brown has put him in games because he’s needed.

If you hadn’t noticed, the Lakers haven’t had many blowout games. They’ve been close games where the bench has either been losing a lead or deepening their own. Had Kobe not asked to be put in the game, Mike Brown surely would’ve put him in regardless.

by shoang1993 on Jan 19, 2012 7:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Our bench is regularly struggling to score 10 points in a game

I don’t think there’s much help to be gotten there

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by Marty Mart on Jan 19, 2012 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I think considering the minutes that the bench is playing, that's reasonable

considering how many points the first unit scores in their minutes. Even last year, we complained about the bench. Are you telling me that

Blake-Brown were a better backcourt than Blake 2.0 – Kapono/Glock? I don’t know. I think they are about the same. The frontcourt is what has changed.

Barnes-Odom-Bynum/Pau vs. this year’s Murphy/McRoberts

It’s clear the bench is struggling but not especially because of the backcourt. So my point is Kobe is getting the same help he’s always got. The difference from last year to this year is that he no longer trusts the team as a whole to get it done. So before we complain about the lack of help, the truth is that our frontcourt is not as strong.

And note that Kobe has played more when Bynum, McRoberts, Murphy, etc. were out. He doesn’t trust the rest of the team to support him and so he takes more shots.

Lakers and Patriots forever.

by D.S.T. on Jan 19, 2012 11:24 AM PST reply actions  

If you hit reply under the comment you're responding to, it will make more sense to everyone reading.

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by SoCalGal on Jan 19, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

don't forget to use

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also, the “up” button next to the “reply” button helps you sort out a conversation :)

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by bluexfalcon on Jan 19, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

F trust...play smarter bball

ive seen kobe go 0-8 too many times when he has two towering 7 footers in the paint. best solution for starting 5 would be to bench pau and fish, start morris/blake and murphy/mcroberts. kobe’s gonna shoot them out of the 1st half anyway. once his wrist is ready, 3rd and 4th qtr thats when hes at his absolute best. kobe shouldnt have any trust issues with the starting 5 hes played with them for a long time now. 2 rings and 4 runs later, this shudnt be an issue. at all. period. yes the bench is terrible. theyve always been terrible—thats why odom was sent to the bench to have someone who can create his own shots, and even then they didnt really fair well, especially last season. kobe is playing more becuase odom isnt there. the lakers 3pt game is suspect—infact problablyt he worse in the league, that doesnt fair well. they cant stretch the floor, they get NO fast break pts. but again, they have the advantage every single game with the front couart. and they need a PG to boot. blake is glass joe/sick boy all in one, hes a bust. fish is old man winter, he needs to come off the bench, no way fish should be getting more than like 10 min a night. seriously. laker front office failed to pickup anyone and i do mean ANYONE that can help the team. yes they filled holes, but never made an effort to get better after the CP3 bs what went down (my hat off the stern and the league for ruining our season). the lakers will do fine once they realize they have a special front court. brown continues to baffle me with his rotation. he needs to get in pau’s a$$—no reason for him to avg less than 25 a game. NONE. too skilled, too big not to. maybe even make him come off the bench with fish. two vets would do wonders when the starters sit. i like bynums play so far—hes aggressive early and always calls for the ball, but he does commit stupid fouls too early—idk what hes tryng to prove but he needs better control. hes still on my sht list for last years playoff dud. he was a punk for what he did…anyway, rebuilding year at best, 6th seed, maybe they will win first round, but there are about 5 more well rounded than the lakeshow, and SA may be old but they can flat out get it done on tough nights. i like the DH trade talks because hes DOMINANT down low. something pau and bynum need to tape to their foreheads—if we had 3pt shooters in place we could run like the magic, only we have the best closer in the game.

by beezer17 on Jan 21, 2012 5:37 AM PST reply actions  

um wut?

you made some good points but hard to read and sometimes confusing.

I think I’m on #teamdwill more than #teamhoward now.

Lakers and Patriots forever.

by D.S.T. on Jan 21, 2012 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  


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