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The Credits: "Like Mike"

Starring Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan..

It's no secret that Kobe Bryant wishes to surpass Michael Jordan as the player many consider the Greatest Player Of All Time. Kobe's openly embraced comparisons to Mike since he was a rookie, and has done much in his career to warrant serious considerations of comparison. There are some out there who despise Kobe for emulating his childhood idol, but Michael Jordan isn't one of them. His Airness thinks Kobe is the only player that's put in the work for consideration.

@lazenby:

"...MJ just told me Kobe's the only one to have done the work, to deserve comparison."

That Michael and Kobe choose to express who they feel are worthy comparisons to their greatness is an issue for some. Not me, sure they seem awfully arrogant in their opinions, but that bristling pride is what made them the champs they are. Maybe Kobe is doing too much work?

What will bother me is when some snooty blogger or journalist will eventually question and snicker at the opinion of the GM survey the NBA releases every season. Like a league full of guys who get paid to evaluate basketball talent on a 24/7/365 basis aren't smart enough to see what they can. Makes you scratch your head. I know, I know. Not all of the execs are good at the job, right?

Not surprisingly, LeBron isn't considered a leader among the League's execs. What is surprising is that Pau is still considered the 2nd best Center in the NBA. Only 3.7% voted for him, but think we here in Lakerland realize that Bynum should at least hold that "title." Of course, top guy was Dwight Howard, whom Drew respects a great deal. No matter what happens, the kid is playing quite well on both ends. Especially on defense, where the Lakers are making their mark as a team, and Dex assesses the Lakers through their first 15 games.

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Strange how something becomes news

Because MJ expressed this sentiment at least two years ago, without much fanfare. I can’t remember which magazine I was reading. But he repeats it now, Lazenby tweets it, and it’s everywhere.

"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson

"Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd." - Voltaire

by Gil Meriken on Jan 18, 2012 9:29 AM PST reply actions  

The NBA has put a re-emphasis on Kobe this season.

If possible. I’m also surprised at the positive reaction from “experts” after Kobe’s 40 run.

Silver Screen and Roll

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by wondahbap on Jan 18, 2012 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

That Point Forward article is actually very good.

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
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by SoCalGal on Jan 18, 2012 9:42 AM PST reply actions  

So, anyone else who watches TBJ think that Tas' newfound love of

“being fair” has become annoying to listen to. It’s the only thing I can see that has really changed that gets annoying

"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco

by Marty Mart on Jan 18, 2012 10:16 AM PST reply actions  

Also interesting
Only three teams (the Kings, Knicks and Clippers) have finished a greater share of their possessions via isolation plays, per Synergy. No team has devoted a larger share to post-up chances.

"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco

by Marty Mart on Jan 18, 2012 10:21 AM PST reply actions  

LOL, Andrew actually looks down on Dwight Howard since he's 2 inches taller.

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
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by SoCalGal on Jan 18, 2012 10:58 AM PST reply actions  

Do you guys agree with me that we could beat any team in the West in a 7-game series?

I don’t know as much about bball as some of you guys, but I get the feeling that the Lakers’ problems stem from old legs and fatigue. In a 7 game series, with spaced out games, and only one opponent to prepare for, I feel like we could go toe-to-toe with any team. Dallas. Portland. Denver. San Antonio. Los Angeles Clips. Maybe OKC could beat us. But I think we might have a better postseason that people expect (even better if we get howard)

I’m definitely with SoCalGal on #teamhoward
He can lift us to a championship because he’ll play Bynum’s minutes and then some, with less injury and more respect from Kobe. He’ll get doubled every play (unlike Bynum). Imagine if we also can keep Gasol. That’s a championship team if we can do Bynum-Howard straight up.

Lakers and Patriots forever.

by D.S.T. on Jan 18, 2012 11:20 AM PST reply actions  

there's a catch 22 with the bynum howard trade

if bynum plays well enough for orlando to want to trade him straight up for howard, jim buss will want to keep him. if he gets injured again and the lakers want to get rid of him, the magic won’t want him. either we throw in pau or there’s no trade.

i agree with you that we can be competitive with any team in the west. we’ll be a tough out in the playoffs with our gritty style, you can count on that.

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by theshmoes on Jan 18, 2012 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I see what you are saying, but honestly the Lakers don’t need to offer Pau, and shouldn’t
Orlando is the ones that risk getting nothing for Howard if we walks,
or not getting as good a player like Bynum

by dannblala on Jan 18, 2012 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

id throw pau in the deal with bynum,

but we better be getting anderson & reddick in the deal as well.

"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung

by LakersFoEva on Jan 18, 2012 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

If Pau is in the deal, we need a lot coming back for sure...

Obviously it’d be better not to have him in, since he could either help us himself or in a trade scenario he’s still going to be worth more than anything we get back…

by x Nightwing x on Jan 18, 2012 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

at this point in his career,

pau def looks on the decline, and seems fine with being the third fiddle. his non-aggressiveness and finesse play are really wearing on me. I would be okay with trading him to get quality role players who are much younger.

Giving up Bynum, Pau & pieces/picks for Howard, Turk, Reddick and Anderson would be great in building for the future. We get a hell of a lot younger. Anderson is able to keep double teams off of Kobe and Howard. Reddick can be a “04 rip hamilton” type player off the bench. he isn’t someone who can really create his own shot, but turkoglu can.

Id be fine with our current point guard play if we were able to do this trade. But you still have the Odom TPE. And the only situation i can see us using it on a PG, is if Charlotte sucks the rest of the year, and Kemba Walker overtakes Augustin as the starting PG. Then we use the Odom TPE for Augustin. But thats a big IF.

"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung

by LakersFoEva on Jan 18, 2012 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Howard alone doesnt make us championship caliber imo

Adding him doesn’t change the fact that our 3pt shooting sucks, we dont have a viable backup for Kobe because Kapono’s useless, Metta Bricks is horrible,Murphy looks like the player he was last year is what he really is and Our pg play is way way below average

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by EmmCeee on Jan 18, 2012 1:44 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Exactly. I am 100% behind this.

That LO trade exception they have can be the key. We need a back up for kobe and a better PG so how about a combo-guard? But who?

I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things

by Jelly Bean on Jan 18, 2012 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Lutha Head

"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker
"Fisher's defense is called escort service in my country, just accompany" -Ibou

42-1 on Barebones TDM classic ... BEAT THAT XBOXERS

by madmaxx350 on Jan 18, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

That sir is the million dollar question

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by EmmCeee on Jan 18, 2012 1:51 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

OJ Mayo is where it's at.

and then get Nelson from the Magic in the Dwight Trade.

"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker
"Fisher's defense is called escort service in my country, just accompany" -Ibou

42-1 on Barebones TDM classic ... BEAT THAT XBOXERS

by madmaxx350 on Jan 18, 2012 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Wouldn't mind getting mayo

Depending on what they want from him

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by EmmCeee on Jan 18, 2012 1:58 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Lo's trade exception.

Is that too much?

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by Jelly Bean on Jan 18, 2012 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm really loving this idea.

What’s his story? Where is he playing at now?

I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things

by Jelly Bean on Jan 18, 2012 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Former 1st round pick

Playing in Memphis and is younger,more athletic and just better than Kapono. lol

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by EmmCeee on Jan 18, 2012 2:02 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

more importantly, he can create his own shot

and would be a great 6th man.

"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker
"Fisher's defense is called escort service in my country, just accompany" -Ibou

42-1 on Barebones TDM classic ... BEAT THAT XBOXERS

by madmaxx350 on Jan 18, 2012 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

oh and he is pretty decent from 3.

"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker
"Fisher's defense is called escort service in my country, just accompany" -Ibou

42-1 on Barebones TDM classic ... BEAT THAT XBOXERS

by madmaxx350 on Jan 18, 2012 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I hate to get excited about a player or the Lakers trading for any player

if it is only a pipe-dream. But that is not the case for OJ Mayo. Here is the latest I dug out as of Jan 14. This seems promising because that means that the Grizz are open to trading him:

The Grizzlies are again discussing whether to deal reserve guard O.J. Mayo. This time, Memphis has explored at least two trade scenarios with the New Jersey Nets over the past couple of weeks, according to two NBA sources.

The Nets are interested in acquiring Mayo for salary-cap reasons as they try to clear room to make a run at Orlando center Dwight Howard in the offseason. With that in mind, the Nets have offered fourth-year guard Anthony Morrow for Mayo. Morrow, a 6-5 shooting guard, will earn $4 million this year and is guaranteed for $4 million next season. Mayo is making $5.6 this season the final year of his rookie contract. He has a $7.4 million qualifying offer for the 2012-13 campaign. The Griz have not discussed a contract extension with Mayo nor do they plan to before the Jan. 25 deadline.


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by Jelly Bean on Jan 18, 2012 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

fuck, just imagine a Kobe-OJ back court?

I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things

by Jelly Bean on Jan 18, 2012 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Please oh please,

Mcbobs and pieces for mayo.

by weak sauce on Jan 18, 2012 3:30 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

mcbob is our only decent backup big.

we need to hold onto him.

"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung

by LakersFoEva on Jan 18, 2012 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

id rather sacrafice some of the rooks, sophs @ picks than mcbob.

without him, murphy is our only backup pf or c. NOT GOOD.

"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung

by LakersFoEva on Jan 18, 2012 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha, I'd rather have Memphis take those guys also.

I just don’t know if Memphis would take them. There was already the McBobs for Mayo story earlier in the season, as well.

by weak sauce on Jan 18, 2012 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

sounds like a value meal from McDonalds

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by lakerdynasty on Jan 20, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

no thank you on nelson.

blake was playing better than him

"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung

by LakersFoEva on Jan 18, 2012 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

is the trade machine finally working?

"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung

by LakersFoEva on Jan 18, 2012 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6rg2pcs

"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung

by LakersFoEva on Jan 18, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

You're right but...

We were close to winning a lot of games even with all of these problems. If we get Howard, he’s going to get a double-double every night and command a double team. That frees up Kobe and with Gasol’s jumper, we can upgrade from the status quo.

Howard would improve our Defense even MORE and free up our offense more than Bynum can (who plays less minutes, is more injury prone, and is not a consistent double-double).

Lakers and Patriots forever.

by D.S.T. on Jan 18, 2012 6:24 PM PST up reply actions  

The problem with that is our guys get open shots now

They cant shoot or just shoot terrible. Thats not gonna magically change because we add Dwight. We should focus on trying to get Deron. He has what we’re missing with or without Dwight

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by EmmCeee on Jan 18, 2012 10:08 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

You can't get him unless you have Dwight

There in lies the problem

AMMO carried the Lakers to back-2-back titles and we couldn't even get LEWIS MONROE for him...

by Q.Calloway25 on Jan 18, 2012 11:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I used to think that

Till Dallas swept us. Anything can happen, I think we have a shot at beating any team in a 7 game series, but against certain teams it just doesn’t seem probable. To me, anyway

"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest

"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius

by Hdg23 on Jan 18, 2012 8:36 PM PST up reply actions  

So I just read that SBNation MVP list

and Kobe is listed #3, which isn’t really a problem to me, but then KD is listed in front of him and the reason for Kobe being number 3 is

Kobe scores one extra point over LeBron on five extra shooting possessions with two fewer rebounds and assists, worse defense for a team with a worse record and a comparable supporting cast given Dwyane Wade’s injury. Hands down.

which would make more sense if Lebron was like one spot on top of Kobe because the comparison making Kobe #3 according to the author is because he has only 1 pt on a worse shooting % and 2 less in both assists and rebounds. Miami is 9-4 and we are 10-5 and OKC is 12-2.

"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker
"Fisher's defense is called escort service in my country, just accompany" -Ibou

42-1 on Barebones TDM classic ... BEAT THAT XBOXERS

by madmaxx350 on Jan 18, 2012 1:16 PM PST reply actions  

or maybe I'm just thinking too much about it and inpterpreting it all wrong.

"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker
"Fisher's defense is called escort service in my country, just accompany" -Ibou

42-1 on Barebones TDM classic ... BEAT THAT XBOXERS

by madmaxx350 on Jan 18, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I even commented on that, but for a different reason.

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
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by SoCalGal on Jan 18, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I mean I don't mind the ranking but I feel the reasoning behind it is weak.

"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker
"Fisher's defense is called escort service in my country, just accompany" -Ibou

42-1 on Barebones TDM classic ... BEAT THAT XBOXERS

by madmaxx350 on Jan 18, 2012 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, me too.

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
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by SoCalGal on Jan 18, 2012 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

What will bother me is when some snooty blogger or journalist will eventually question and snicker at the opinion of the GM survey the NBA releases every season. Like a league full of guys who get paid to evaluate basketball talent on a 24/7/365 basis aren’t smart enough to see what they can. Makes you scratch your head. I know, I know. Not all of the execs are good at the job, right?

As an older dude who has worked in many professional settings and contrary to popular belief, men LOOOOOOVE to gossip and act like high school girls. Not many people will ever admit to this and it is Charles Barkley’s biggest reason why he hates Kobe is because Kobe supposedly snitched on Shaq and his unfaithful ways. And sports journalist have black balled Kobe for the same reason. Nobody will admit it publicly but I have read about that so many times in SI, ESPN the Mag etc. Charles has even hinted to that at times before but will never say it publicly. It is really a boys club atmosphere. Just ask ex Lakers about how Magic J acted in the locker room with women and you’ll get a “no comment.”

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by Jelly Bean on Jan 18, 2012 1:17 PM PST reply actions  

STOP THE MADNESS. Howard doesn't want to go to the Clippers
Magic General Manager Otis Smith said Howard’s camp has not informed him that the superstar center has expanded his list of preferred destinations beyond the Dallas Mavericks, the Los Angeles Lakers and the New Jersey Nets.

Smith also said the Magic also have not granted permission to Howard’s agent to speak with any teams in addition to the Mavericks, Lakers and Nets.

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by Jelly Bean on Jan 18, 2012 2:30 PM PST reply actions  

espn creating rumors again

"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker
"Fisher's defense is called escort service in my country, just accompany" -Ibou

42-1 on Barebones TDM classic ... BEAT THAT XBOXERS

by madmaxx350 on Jan 18, 2012 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

*expletive* ESPN

"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest

"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius

by Hdg23 on Jan 18, 2012 8:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I actually posted it in the thread yesterday, Im surprised how many people missed the Orlando Sentinel shutting down ESPN's attempt at page hits

They are doing everything in their power to make this Lakers vs Clippers thing bigger than what it is.

AMMO carried the Lakers to back-2-back titles and we couldn't even get LEWIS MONROE for him...

by Q.Calloway25 on Jan 18, 2012 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

That is a good point.

Since Tebow is out of the playoffs they want a story from anywhere.

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by Jelly Bean on Jan 18, 2012 10:16 PM PST up reply actions  


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