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Beast or Burden: Stone Wall

LOS ANGELES, CA - JANUARY 16: Head coach Mike Brown and Derek Fisher #2 of the Los Angeles Lakers confer during the game against the Dallas Mavericks at Staples Center on January 16, 2012 in Los Angeles, California.  The Lakers won 73-70.  NOTE TO USER: User expressly acknowledges and agrees that, by downloading and or using this photograph, User is consenting to the terms and conditions of the Getty Images License Agreement.  (Photo by Stephen Dunn/Getty Images)

That was not a fun way to watch basketball. Years of the triangle have given us some idea of what good offensive execution looks like, and needless to say, nearly everything outside of a certain Kobe Bryant has looked pretty terrible recently. That noted, the Lakers have won six of their last seven, and it might be pretty safe to say that the reason is due to some fairly superlative play at the other end of the court. We have all said it one time or another -- Mike Brown was brought here to put in a championship-caliber defense, and thus far he has succeeded. That is why the defense is the first item in an inaugural series we will be putting out this week named "Beast or Burden" in which we will look at three items on the rise recently, as well as three things that require some -- often serious -- work to get back up to par. Without further ado, let us begin:

Beast

  • The Defense -- It hasn't been perfect by any means. You still see missed coverage every now and then, whether it is someone leaving a shooter open or infuriatingly, a missed box out, especially with both our starting bigs on the floor. But there is no question it is getting the job done, and there is no place it shines better than in the fourth quarter, when the Lakers squeeze the life out of opposing offenses, which is often necessary given how dismal our own crunch time offense is. Monday's fourth quarter must have sounded like a beautiful symphony to Mike Brown, as Pau Gasol played superlative defense on Dirk Nowitzki and our bigs in general completely stymied the Mavs' pick-and-roll attack at every turn. Gasol and Josh McRoberts in particular have done extremely well with Brown's hard hedge strategy, and it has been a lifesaver for our otherwise slow (Fisher) or inexperienced (Morris) guards. Bynum has owned the interior, perhaps not as dominantly as he did post-ASG last year, but still at a very effective rate. Stuff like this wins championships, and Brown deserves mad props if he devises a zone scheme to slow down Miami tomorrow.

Star-divide

  • Derek Fisher -- That might have been his one good game of the year. There's a 99.9% that there will be a rather large regression to the mean against Miami. That noted, he basically won the ball game by himself for the Lakers in the fourth quarter, coming up with two big steals, a PUJIT he actually hit, a layup in transition, a pair of free throws, and a classic crunch-time three. If he played half as well as he did last night all the time, we would complain about Fisher approximately 95% less, even with all the positively nonsensical stuff he does despite having 15 years in the league under his belt. With Steve Blake out and Darius Morris struggling with being a rookie, we'll have to hope that he has a few more of those games left.
  • Andrew Bynum -- We talked about his defense, which has definitely been his calling card as he has struggled on the other end after teams figured out that they can bother him by sending a barrage of double teams. He is gradually showing signs of figuring it out, awkward as it is, such as his baseline pass to Kapono in the game against Dallas, and he is getting better at getting into his moves immediately after the catch. Either way, besides Fisher, Bynum alone was a positive for the Lakers on offense on Monday, and it is more endearing every game to see him gobble up rebounds and defend with alacrity and decisiveness despite being forgotten about by his teammates a whole lot on the other end. Part of that is maturity, and it's what we want to see.
  • Honorable mentions go to Matt Barnes, who warms my heart by being one of the few guys on this team that understands the concept of cutting, and Josh McRoberts for a solid all-around game last night.
Burden
  • Bench play -- It is almost like the Lakers decided to go into this season and see how they could play while exacerbating their two biggest weaknesses in the form of three-point shooting and a miserable bench. McRoberts has been the best of the bunch, but the decline after that is pretty sharp. Metta World Peace has done his best to make us forget those delightful first few games in which he embraced being a post option, bullied opposing threes down low, and played generally solid defense by chucking brick after brick from the perimeter, as well as making one bone-headed play after another. You kind of have to question why Devin Ebanks, who can at least shoot, isn't getting minutes over him. This probably won't be the case against Miami, as MWP is required to defend a certain LeBron James, but save for those matchups, it's difficult to see why Ebanks isn't playing. Murphy seemingly lost his spot in the rotation, which is strange given that it's rather early in the season and we don't have a replacement for him, but even before that, he was far too tentative with his shot despite getting a wealth of open looks and defends about as poorly as advertised. Jason Kapono has also lived up to his billing, shooting way too many long twos and playing some absolutely terrible defense. Darius Morris and Andrew Goudelock both need D-League seasoning, and it's a wonder that the latter isn't there right now.
  • The Offense -- The problem isn't Kobe dominating the ball. Well, usually. Kobe getting the ball of a curl at the top of the free throw line for a jumper is a-okay. Kobe getting in the post and shooting a fadeaway is as well. Kobe and Gasol running a pick-and-roll that results in Kobe passing to a rolling Gasol, who dumps it off to Bynum is beautiful. Kobe dribbling the clock away behind the line before deciding to make a move is not. Gasol staring at his defender, waiting until someone cuts -- and no one does -- and deciding to do something weak with the ball is not. Guys ball-watching and refusing to understand the notion of what a "cut" might imply is not. Morris dribbling the ball away waiting for someone to give him a pick and get open is not. Let's just say that the list of things that are bad heavily outweighs those that are good. To be fair, Mike Brown has had practically no practice time to even talk about implementing his offense yet and has acknowledged that the Kobe-ball can't continue, so it's premature to make any judgments either way, but this is hell of a mess to clean up. Immediate solutions are more pick-and-roll and more cutting. Doesn't require an extensive training camp to get that into the playbook.
  • Darius Morris -- I want to say that part of it isn't his fault. I scream at the television for guys to come up and run a damn pick-and-roll with him and start moving in general to give him options rather than let him sit there on the wing waiting for someone to do something. He has no real utility unless you are asking him to create using his court vision. Mitch Kupchak selected Morris because he was aware that this team needed a real, traditional point guard, and so far, the team has treated him like Derek Fisher v.2. It's maddening. Part of it is on Morris though. He's terribly indecisive about what to do in the lane, needs to be much more willing to go up for a shot, and has to give up the ball much sooner rather than pounding it away. It's okay to make mistakes, but at least we want to see that you're moving in the right direction. To his credit though, one thing that he has brought in solid doses has been defense. He moves well laterally (!!!), understands how to use his length to bother shots, and generally doesn't get caught out of position. He needs some work on how to effectively get through screens, but he's brought effort and heart when he was out there, and the potential to be really, really good at that end is certainly within his reach. Don't let the memory of Chris Paul toasting him fool you -- for one, Paul does that to everyone, and two, those were some tough, tough shots he hit over Morris' good defense.
  • (Dis)honorable mentions go to Pau for looking lost and tentative on offense and the abomination of a third quarter we saw on Monday.
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Why did this get burried on the front page?

anyways, id put Barnes ahead of Fisher on the beast section. Besides for the 4th quarter of the Dallas game, Fish has been non-existent and his shot has been terribly off. Barnes has been a real surprise in the starting lineup. his hustle and defense are contagious. i love when he sneaks out for layups on the fast break.

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by LakersFoEva on Jan 18, 2012 2:33 PM PST reply actions  

Editorial issues.

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Tweetness

by SoCalGal on Jan 18, 2012 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Great stuff. IMO the poor bench is not due to Mitch not trying to sign or trade for players

that could help. Blake, Barnes etc have been decent signings.

I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things

by Jelly Bean on Jan 18, 2012 2:42 PM PST reply actions  

OH yeah! Did I mention Howard doesn't want to be a Clipper?
Magic General Manager Otis Smith said Howard’s camp has not informed him that the superstar center has expanded his list of preferred destinations beyond the Dallas Mavericks, the Los Angeles Lakers and the New Jersey Nets.

Smith also said the Magic also have not granted permission to Howard’s agent to speak with any teams in addition to the Mavericks, Lakers and Nets.

I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things

by Jelly Bean on Jan 18, 2012 2:43 PM PST reply actions  

ummm...

"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco

by Marty Mart on Jan 18, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

did you click on it?

I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things

by Jelly Bean on Jan 18, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

click on the pic..do it! do it! do it! tell me what happens.

I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things

by Jelly Bean on Jan 18, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

isn't it. I just figured it out. I didn't think it would work.

I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things

by Jelly Bean on Jan 18, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

how did you make that link so delicious?

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Jan 18, 2012 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

it was easy

Its just like adding a pick within a link.

I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things

by Jelly Bean on Jan 18, 2012 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

nice!

you really got into the meat and potatoes of the issue…

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by lakerdynasty on Jan 18, 2012 6:41 PM PST up reply actions  

The bench is a huge burden

McRambis Blake and Morris are the exceptions. i would include Ebanks but he rarely gets any pt so he doesnt count. We dnt have a backup for Drew Kobe or Barnes and lack another playmaker which will kill us in the end

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by EmmCeee on Jan 18, 2012 4:00 PM PST via Android app reply actions  

I know a lot of people watch sporting events

with “illegal” streams…how does this new SOPA act impact these sites?

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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.

by YoungMoney24 on Jan 18, 2012 4:33 PM PST reply actions  

It's a miracle Fish made it on the "Beast" portion of the article... lol

I hope we see more of his beastfulness tomorrow.

Oh and thanks Ben R. for the word of the day: alacrity

"These are young men with too much money and too much fame for something as relatively inconsequential as sports, but this is entertainment." --Phil Jackson

by lakerdynasty on Jan 18, 2012 6:45 PM PST reply actions  

This was an outSTANDING article.

I agree with everything, and it was very informative while still being understandable!

by Jevon O on Jan 18, 2012 7:06 PM PST reply actions  

Look for the Timberwolves to offer Kevin Love a $60 million, four-year contract extension within the next eight days.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 18, 2012 7:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I am not sure if that is too much. What kind of signing or contract would you say

signifies that its a max type deal where a team is basically saying “we plan to build our team around you” Not sure if my question makes sense.

I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things

by Jelly Bean on Jan 18, 2012 8:04 PM PST up reply actions  

in this case Never Never Land = Lakers
JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald

Confused as to the Metallica song being played on Amway Arena P.A. Is James Hetfield singing “exit light” or “exit Dwight?”

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by deadmuse on Jan 18, 2012 7:44 PM PST reply actions  

lol

another 20-20 night for him

he’s a Beast

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 18, 2012 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Two reporters now talking about D-Will & Lakers

…that I have found anyway.

Ramona Shelburne and Mark Heisler have both written columns.

No actual scenarios, but Ramona’s article has some substance and Deron’s comments on the Lakers whereas Mark is simply voicing an opinion.

"Fuck, don’t you care about the people reading this shit? Some of them might be fucking offended by your rant. Think of the fucking children!" -SoCalGal

"If you're not making mistakes, then you're not doing anything. I'm positive that a doer makes mistakes." - John Wooden

by deadmuse on Jan 18, 2012 8:03 PM PST reply actions  

ramona link is dead?

THE POWER OF SHAW COMPELS YOU.. THE POWER OF SHAW COMPELS YOU.....

by imposibol on Jan 18, 2012 8:05 PM PST up reply actions  

hmm strange.

try this http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/7471786/will-los-angeles-lakers-players-deron-williams-stakes

"Fuck, don’t you care about the people reading this shit? Some of them might be fucking offended by your rant. Think of the fucking children!" -SoCalGal

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by deadmuse on Jan 18, 2012 8:26 PM PST up reply actions  

thank you sir

THE POWER OF SHAW COMPELS YOU.. THE POWER OF SHAW COMPELS YOU.....

by imposibol on Jan 18, 2012 8:32 PM PST up reply actions  

hmm Norton gave me a "Malicious content" warning on the Ramona link.

I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things

by Jelly Bean on Jan 18, 2012 8:06 PM PST up reply actions  

……now i don’t want to click it

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 18, 2012 8:09 PM PST up reply actions  

typo in the original link

has “http:” in there twice

"Fuck, don’t you care about the people reading this shit? Some of them might be fucking offended by your rant. Think of the fucking children!" -SoCalGal

"If you're not making mistakes, then you're not doing anything. I'm positive that a doer makes mistakes." - John Wooden

by deadmuse on Jan 18, 2012 8:28 PM PST up reply actions  

i do wonder though, about Dwight and D-Will

if getting one means the other will then follow

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 18, 2012 8:10 PM PST up reply actions  

There is a high probability of it

Dwight and Deron’s situations are tied to the hip right now. Once the Dwight situation is figured out, it’ll be clear what will happen with Deron. If NJ doesn’t get Dwight and we get him, Deron is gone. It’ll then be out of Dallas and us. And the only reason Dwight has Dallas on his list is because of the chance Deron and him both go there as FA’s. There is a chance they both make it to FA, but it’s very low because of Orlando not wanting to be Shaq’d again. So that leaves it for a trade. NJ isn’t giving up on Deron until they know Dwight is completely gone.
So if we get Dwight and he signs the extension then we still have the upper hand. Whether NJ trades him before the deadline or he forces a Sign & trade next summer. We’d still have to have Pau though.

So in summation, If we manage to keep Pau and NJ doesn’t trade him before the deadline, we’ll have a pretty good trio in Dwight-Pau-Kobe and in the summer he can force a sign & trade to LA. Whether NJ takes pau straight up or in a multi team trade to get other pieces.

AMMO carried the Lakers to back-2-back titles and we couldn't even get LEWIS MONROE for him...

by Q.Calloway25 on Jan 18, 2012 8:27 PM PST up reply actions  

With the new "Big Three" mentality

it seems more likely one team will land both of these guys where previously every team would try for one or the other. It’s going to be double heartbreak for two out of three: Lakers, Nets, Mavs.

There’s a new vocabulary for this era:
- if DH goes to the Mavs, ORL gets Shaq’d
- if DH goes to the Lakers or Nets, ORL gets Melo’d
- since DH has been honest about his intentions, ORL luckily will not get Decision’d

"Fuck, don’t you care about the people reading this shit? Some of them might be fucking offended by your rant. Think of the fucking children!" -SoCalGal

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by deadmuse on Jan 18, 2012 8:43 PM PST up reply actions  

one more

- the fact the Lakers got Basketballreason’d may be karma for Memphis getting Kwame’d

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by deadmuse on Jan 18, 2012 8:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Memphis got Marc Gasol

they’re fine

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 18, 2012 9:00 PM PST up reply actions  

True

but tbh, I think we make too much of the “Big 3” mentality. It’s been done for years, the only difference is now stars are dictating the terms and not the franchises. Another thing is because there are more teams there are not enough stars to go around, in turn there are more horrible teams. Also the internet allows everyone to type out their opinion and everything is updated every millisecond so it becomes unbearable. , I just think people went overboard w/ it because it was supposed to be the NBA’s best player and he goes and joins another stars team? It didn’t sit well with those who defended him as a Jordan mold type player, when that isn’t LBJ’s mentality. Everyone was fine w/ CB4 leaving Toronto, but soon as LBJ left all hell broke lose. The “big 3” thing has been happening for years though:

Miami-James,Wade,Bosh
Boston-Allen,Pierce,Garnett
Detroit-Hamilton,Billups,R.Wallace
San Antonio-Duncan,Ginobli,Parker
Chicago-Jordan,Pippen,Rodman
Detroit-Dumars,Thomas,Lambieer
LAL-Worthy,Johnson,Abdul-Jabbar
Boston(big4)-Bird,McHale,Parish,Johnson
Philly-Cheeks,Erving,Malone
LAL-Chamberlain,West,Goodrich
LAL-Chamberlain,West,Goodrich,Baylor
New York(big4)-Monroe,Frazier,Reed,DeBuscherre
Boston-Cowens,Silas,White
Boston(we know they were beyond loaded)-Russell,Cousy,Havlicek,Heinsohn,Jones

AMMO carried the Lakers to back-2-back titles and we couldn't even get LEWIS MONROE for him...

by Q.Calloway25 on Jan 18, 2012 10:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the major thing with Lebron

was the fact that he put together an ESPN special to announce where he was going. that combined with all the boasting of not one two three….etc titles before they even played a game. Him leaving CLE really only affected that fanbase.

JMHO

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 18, 2012 10:22 PM PST up reply actions  

IMO,yeah it had alot to do w/ people disliking him, but it was mostly because of who everyone thought he was.

If he had announced he was staying in Cleveland or going to NY there wouldn’t be backlash. Why? Because he would’ve stayed “the man” which is what everyone expected of him and wanted since he was in HS. But, he went and joined another star? As great as he was supposed to be? THAT is what I believe made him vulnerable. It damaged what many believed would be one of the greatest legends. Now people will say LeBron left and won WITH Wade. Instead of LeBron won a title for Cleveland or NY. He was in the stratosphere with MJ,Magic,Larry,Kobe, etc. They all stayed w/ their original franchise. People expected the same from him, but he just wasn’t that guy.

AMMO carried the Lakers to back-2-back titles and we couldn't even get LEWIS MONROE for him...

by Q.Calloway25 on Jan 18, 2012 11:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Just my opinion and I know it wasn't the main point you were trying to make

but I dont think that realistically many of those teams qualify as Big Three teams. Yes, most had high profile players but in my mind in order for a group or core group of guys to be considered big three, they have to be franchise type players. In other words, players that alone either were or can be the type of players that at some point could have a team built around them or at some point did. Not many players qualify under that.

James, Wade, Bosh, Pierce, Allen Garnett, Duncan, Ginobli, Parker, Jordan, Pippen, I. Thomas, Worthy, Johnson, Jabbar, Bird, Chamberlain, West. These players are the only ones that qualify as franchise players or actually at some point were. The other players, were before my generation so I don’t know.

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by Jelly Bean on Jan 18, 2012 10:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I hear you, but the reason we cant really determine that is because talent wasn't spread so then in the past you know?

A Rodman for example is just as much a part of a “big 3” as Jordan and Pippen were. DPOY, All-Star, and HOF. He’ll never be a “superstar”, but he was just as important. Kinda similar to how Shaq doesn’t recognize Bosh as a part of the Big 3 yet we all know how good of a player he really is.

And believe me, all the teams in the early 70’s and 60’s had all time greats, like Frazier, Reed, DeBusschere, Russell, Cousy, Havlicek, Monroe, etc. Those players were definitely apart of those Big 3’s

AMMO carried the Lakers to back-2-back titles and we couldn't even get LEWIS MONROE for him...

by Q.Calloway25 on Jan 18, 2012 11:16 PM PST up reply actions  

It's early but the Lakers are 5th in points allowed...

right at 89 ppg and first in rebounding which usually go together and are stats I pay attention to. Means you are in most games even if the ball is not going in. Bynum is a great d anchor. The offense has options that Mike Brown never had in Cle. Good post up big men that along with Kobe doing some of that also.

The offense should get better in time with passing and movement also, but running the offense through Kobe is a good fall back—great one on one skill and great mechanics = a lot of points. Heat played their best D in the second half against the Spurs, I hope they bring it all game tomorrow.

I like good defensive grind it out games/ getting out and run. Heat will need to turn it into that with or without Wade.

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by mjtig on Jan 18, 2012 9:31 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

I go with % of opponent rather than ppg (opponent)

Currently we are probably going up to 1st or 2nd place and will probably end up top 5 which is very good for our chances of winning.

by nitotech on Jan 18, 2012 9:35 PM PST reply actions  

According to the NBA Trade Machine these trades work

Not sure if the the teams involved would be interested in doing them however. What do you guys think?

The one I’ve thought for a while makes the most sense from the Lakers standpoint is

Bynum, Gasol, Blake, and Ebanks
for
Howard, Nelson, R. Anderson, Turkoglu

It’s a pretty great deal for the Lakers upgrading both C and PG, replacing Gasol at PF, and Turkoglu is playing pretty well. I’m not sure I’d be a huge fan from the Magic side of it, but it’s better than a lot of deals they could get with Lopez out with an injury.

The other deal that works involves the Rockets.

Lakers trade Bynum and Gasol
Magic trade Howard and Turkoglu
Rockets trade Scola, Martin, and Dragic

With the Lakers getting Howard, Turkoglu, and Scola. Magic getting Bynum, and Martin. And the Rockets get Gasol. Dragic could go to either the Magic or Lakers and the deal still works, so it just comes down to if the Magic want him or not I guess.

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by Chris Hines on Jan 18, 2012 10:33 PM PST reply actions  

Would rather have Reddick in the first trade, and keep blake.

throw in some other young players (glock, caracter) and maybe walton (exchanging bad contracts w/ walton & turkoglu, but walton’s ends sooner) and picks

Nelson, IMO, is not an upgrade over our current pg’s. He creates the same problems were currently have (not great on defense & not a great shooter).

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by LakersFoEva on Jan 19, 2012 6:59 AM PST up reply actions  

I would think Orlando would want to keep from taking Waltn. Turk has a bad contract but he's at least contributing

Walton is basically just a coach in uniform at this point and I doubt he carries the same weight in that role on a new team.

Trade Machine says it works without Walton though. Bynum, Gasol, Ebanks for Howard, Reddick, Anderson, and Turk. Deal obviously works with or without one of Glock or Caracter.

I’d be good with either deal at this point. Adding Anderson, Reddick, and to some degree Turk helps with our three point shooting ineptness, and Howard is more consistent than Bynum. Also Turk taking minutes away minutes from Artest can’t be a bad thing.

At this point I think Gasol needs to be on a new team to wake up from whatever haze he’s currently in. He doesn’t seem to have the same fire he did before, from time to time he plays that hard but it’s not consistent enough. I’d be willing to trade him for a PG but outside of Deron Williams, who isn’t getting traded unless we land Howard, I don’t see one out there worth it that matches up.

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by Chris Hines on Jan 19, 2012 11:52 PM PST up reply actions  


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