Lakers-Jazz Preview: These Aren't Your Mosquito's Jazz
Things change over time. It takes eons for continents to shift in a way that is visible to the naked eye. Millennia pass in the blink of an eye to an evolving species. Decades have turned jazz into hip-hop. It is the same with sports. Teams, especially good teams, will often forge an identity that stays with them for a certain period of time. In basketball, these identities often stay in place for a generation. The Showtime Lakers, the SSOL Suns, these teams stayed true to their identity for years, but eventually changed. Such change inevitably leads to someone, somewhere, saying the phrase "These aren't your father's Lakers".
What does this have to do with the Utah Jazz? Just two weeks ago, the Los Angeles Lakers played the Jazz, desperate for a win. The Lakers had started the season 0-2, and were playing the only 3rd night of a back-to-back-to-back in their entire season. They had looked tired and apathetic the previous night in a loss to lowly Sacramento. The Jazz were playing their first game of the season, rested. Andrew Bynum was still serving a suspension. This was an opportunity for the Jazz to make a statement, and I thought they surely made one. The statement was "We are a terrible, terrible basketball team." The Jazz looked horrible in that game, getting blown out by a tired Lakers squad that didn't even have to try.
Two weeks later, it turns out the Jazz don't suck at all. They've won six of their nine games, including all 5 at home. They are one of two teams who have beaten the Philadelphia 76ers. They've won five games in a row. I was pretty sure of the Jazz' identity two weeks ago, a bottom rung lottery team with little hope of any glory this season. In two weeks, that identity has changed. Two weeks is no generation to a human, but lots of insects only live between two and four weeks, so it's safe to say these aren't your mosquito's Jazz.
What's been going right for Utah since their opening night debacle? They've been winning games. That's pretty terrible analysis, but looking for details as to why they are winning ends up being a tough project. The Jazz don't seem to be strong offensively (ranked 18th). They don't seem to be strong defensively (ranked 20th). They aren't a threat from the outside, shooting just a shade better(26.8%) than our own band of merry bricksters(23.0%). They are at or below league average in six out of the eight Four Factors categories that ActuariallySound introduced you to earlier this week. This is a byproduct of a small sample size in which the Jazz have won a bunch of close games and gotten destroyed in every loss (their average margin of defeat? 19 points).The only measure by which the Jazz can be considered a success is ironically the only one that really matters, good old wins and losses.
What Utah does have is a decently solid front line. Al Jefferson is averaging 21 points and just about 10 boards a game. Dude might look like he could qualify for AARP even though he's only just turned 27, but with the dearth of centers in this league, he can still be pretty un-guardable at times. Paul Millsapp is no Karl Malone, or even Carlos Boozer, but he's a very solid starter who provides consistent scoring and rebounding, despite being undersized. Derrick Favors is raw, but he's got plenty of talent. The rest of the Jazz are a patchwork collection of has been and never was ... Earl Watson, Raja Bell, Gordon Hayward, Devin Harris ... none of them strike fear in your heart, and only Harris ever has, but they all seem to be doing their jobs reasonably well after their rough start.
But the Lakers have matchup advantages just about everywhere. Jefferson has better numbers than Bynum, because he is the sole focal point of the offense, but nobody doesn't think Bynum isn't the better center (that's right, folks, the rare triple negative). Pau Gasol should be able to get any kind of shot he wants against Millsap's 6'8" frame. Raja Bell hasn't been capable of shutting down Kobe Bryant in ... well, he was never really that capable. And, with Matt Barnes and his endless bundle of energy settling in at small forward, he's even a net positive against Gordon Hayward. Oh sure, there's the point guard position, but when was the last time the Lakers had matchup advantages at four out of five spots on the floor? Nobody on the Jazz bench is threatening either ... remind me again how this team is 6-3?
I'm not quite sure, but don't be surprised if that 6 turns into a 7 by night's end. This is a straight-up, all-caps, TRAP GAME for the Los Angeles Lakers. The Lakers are probably feeling good about their three game winning streak. Kobe's feeling pretty good about dropping 48 points. They are playing a team they absolutely crushed just two weeks ago, even though they were dead tired while doing so. They are pulling the ever difficult "lose a timezone in the middle of a back-to-back" trick, playing 1.5 hours sooner tonight than they did last night. If you look at the match-ups, all signs point to a Laker victory, but right below them are a bunch of detour signs pointing the other way around. This is exactly the kind of game that the Lakers lose.
But maybe, just maybe, these aren't your mosquito's Lakers either.
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LOL, either "nobody" is a real person, or no one thinks Bynum is better.
but nobody doesn’t think Bynum isn’t the better center.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
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Triple negative ftl
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
You have been SCG'd
Faith is remaining certain in the face of doubt. You’re not sure how it’s going to end, but you’re constantly of the belief that it will end the way you want it to and the way you always believed it to end, and that’s on top - Derek Fisher
Yeah CA wrote this
Such change inevitably leads to someone, somewhere, saying the phrase “These aren’t your father’s Lakers”.
We would have being talking mother’s if this was Dex
Faith is remaining certain in the face of doubt. You’re not sure how it’s going to end, but you’re constantly of the belief that it will end the way you want it to and the way you always believed it to end, and that’s on top - Derek Fisher
New coach... new players... same result
Jazz are great at home and terrible on the road.
Jazz are 5-0 at home this year including that very impressive win over Philadelphia. They are only 1-3 on the road with the sole winning being a 1 point vitctory over the lowly Warriors (3-6). Their three losses were blowouts as CA said.
Unfortunately for the Lakers, tonight’s game is in Utah, and the Lakers have yet to win on the road.
by Actuarially Sound on Jan 11, 2012 2:00 PM PST reply actions
How dare you call the warriors lowly?
Did you see what they did last night? :)
Faith is remaining certain in the face of doubt. You’re not sure how it’s going to end, but you’re constantly of the belief that it will end the way you want it to and the way you always believed it to end, and that’s on top - Derek Fisher
Rock stars!
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
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Party like a rockstar.
California OWNS ALL
by California Girly Girl on Jan 11, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
Luke Walton as our secret weapon.
I’m calling it here, hopefully he keeps up his good performance against the Suns here and at least justify a little of that contract that he doesn’t deserve.
bright side of the suns'
Seth Pollack provided a great analysis on how Walton was really the key to us winning last night.
"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker
"Fisher's defense is called escort service in my country, just accompany" -Ibou
42-1 on Barebones TDM classic ... BEAT THAT XBOXERS
by madmaxx350 on Jan 11, 2012 3:02 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
This was really a case of someone (Luke) trying to be something he's not (good). But it worked out in the end.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
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lol
"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker
"Fisher's defense is called escort service in my country, just accompany" -Ibou
42-1 on Barebones TDM classic ... BEAT THAT XBOXERS
Shannon Brown @ BSOTS
It’s really entertaining reading their comments on Shannon Brown. It’s like everyone just copy and pasted the posts from here!
Shannon Brown leaves me with a sour taste… No reason on earth Brown should take 13 shots in any game. Of course, he will have a game here soon where he nails 5 threes and everyone loves him, but having to sit through the 6 grueling games until then is hard to take.
This sums it up perfectly. I’m not really concerned with how many shots Brown takes but how he takes them. He can shoot a poor percentage and I can live with that if he’s taking good shots. But jacking up long, contested threes and his absolute refusal to pass the ball to any of his teammates needs to change.
LOL, insert Derek Fisher's name in the first comment, and Kobe's in the second.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
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we're thinking
he’s thinking he is Kobe…although last night he had a decent game.
"Love me or hate me. Its one or the other…always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fade-away, my hunger. Hate that I am a veteran, a champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart and hate that I am loved for the exact same reasons." – Kobe Bryant
don't even say it Ray
That's a nice sig you've got there, 2NASHTY.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
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I disagree...
"Love me or hate me. Its one or the other…always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fade-away, my hunger. Hate that I am a veteran, a champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart and hate that I am loved for the exact same reasons." – Kobe Bryant
don't even say it Ray
heeeey nice sig
you like my new sig?
I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things
where did i get it? Okay i'll tell you since you asked
this lady on the show Hoarders said that and it made me crack up.
I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things
Well, that's the role he played for our second unit
but it also frustrated us that he tried to be something he’s not
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Well, that's the role he played for our second unit, scorer.
but it also frustrated us that he tried to be something he’s not
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Utah will look at this game as a measuring stick and its at home.
Whip dat ass Lakers! Last year we would sruggle in this trap game. This year, the staff will convince the troops it is an opportunity win a game we should win. Leave em Luke’d!
"I want to get out there, dominate in the low block," Bynum said."That's what I'm here for."
One Nation...under a groove. IAATL(D). It's all about the Lakers (defense).
*opportunity to win...
"I want to get out there, dominate in the low block," Bynum said."That's what I'm here for."
One Nation...under a groove. IAATL(D). It's all about the Lakers (defense).
by Zen and Tonic on Jan 11, 2012 3:33 PM PST up reply actions
EAT LA!
Hit the boards.
Manage the ball.
D it up!
"I want to get out there, dominate in the low block," Bynum said."That's what I'm here for."
One Nation...under a groove. IAATL(D). It's all about the Lakers (defense).
You have to choose. We talked last night about how bad the Lakers are at multi-tasking. That's too much stuff you're asking of them.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
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then they should just focus on winning.
"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker
"Fisher's defense is called escort service in my country, just accompany" -Ibou
42-1 on Barebones TDM classic ... BEAT THAT XBOXERS
Sounds good to me.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
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Two of the three they are doing every game. If that's habit...only one is left.
Well, that and winning.
We lead the league in rebounding and we are playing defense in long stretches.
I always wonder how much anxiety will come from a game following a Kobe explosion. It doesn’t appear they feel it’s okay to defer winning until tomorrow. (Brown Kool-Aid?)
Yesterday was a good character win. I like all Dubs, but those are sweet.
"I want to get out there, dominate in the low block," Bynum said."That's what I'm here for."
One Nation...under a groove. IAATL(D). It's all about the Lakers (defense).
by Zen and Tonic on Jan 11, 2012 3:52 PM PST up reply actions
I don't disagree with this...
You have to choose. We talked last night about how bad the Lakers are at multi-tasking. That’s too much stuff you’re asking of them.
…and I hope it changes because we only have 1/3 of the playbook in place.
However, we played deep into the bench yesterday and still managed defensive rotations and role players stepped up. If we do that again, we will win. If that becomes habit, we will win a lot.
"I want to get out there, dominate in the low block," Bynum said."That's what I'm here for."
One Nation...under a groove. IAATL(D). It's all about the Lakers (defense).
LOL, my comment was a joke.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
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For shame SCG!!! For shame. smh
LOL
"I want to get out there, dominate in the low block," Bynum said."That's what I'm here for."
One Nation...under a groove. IAATL(D). It's all about the Lakers (defense).
by Zen and Tonic on Jan 11, 2012 4:20 PM PST up reply actions
LOL...
Faith is remaining certain in the face of doubt. You’re not sure how it’s going to end, but you’re constantly of the belief that it will end the way you want it to and the way you always believed it to end, and that’s on top - Derek Fisher
That triple negative shook me to my core.
"I want to get out there, dominate in the low block," Bynum said."That's what I'm here for."
One Nation...under a groove. IAATL(D). It's all about the Lakers (defense).
There is a game on today to? sweet!
do my comments here count towards my game thread posting stats? : )
I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things
no, lol
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
And, with Matt Barnes and his endless bundle of energy settling in at small forward, he’s even a net positive against Gordon Hayward.
With all this talk (before the season started) about how the Lakers needed to blow up the roster and get younger, who knew that burst of youth and energy was on the bench in the form of Ebanks, Blake and Barnes. You add Mcroberts to that and we are closer than we thought. It just took coach Brown to switch things up a bit.
I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things
yup..I'm sure they had that in mind
and they knew just which coach to hire because he got hired so quickly.
I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things
NNOOOO!!!
ok, i might be a rookie still at posting comments, but i get soooo caught up reading everyone else’s that by the time i get to write one, everything that i have to say has already been said, so am saying NNOO!! i refuse to read everyone’s comments!! hi, SCG and lakergirl, i wonder where JXN has been…it’s really been a while since i posted but am always here….ok, thoughts….i like the aggressiveness am seeing in the lakers sooo far, i think brown standing and yelling on the sideline increases our sense of urgency that leads to crunch time efficiency instead of individual greatness {kobe} and buzzer beater heroics. i like the fact that kobe is being very assertive, sometimes a bit too much, but we won’t love him any other way…Bynum is….well, bynum, and pau really does need to be more aggressive and drive definitely once in a while….i really do see us extending this streak to florida, and realistically go 1-1 down there….but all in all, we look great defensively, i wanna see morris play more, and i think there should be a fine for every missed FT and ill-advised 3s. good luck tonight lakers! and Kobe gets more than 30, jussttt sayinggg lol..
Good thoughts, and Brown is making a difference in transition. Nice post.
Welcome (back)!
"I want to get out there, dominate in the low block," Bynum said."That's what I'm here for."
One Nation...under a groove. IAATL(D). It's all about the Lakers (defense).
by Zen and Tonic on Jan 11, 2012 6:42 PM PST up reply actions
ohh yeaa, as a biochem grad student, everytime i see the name mcroberts, i see and pronounce MICROberts, which makes me laugh inside….yes, i am a nerd.
trust me, there are a lot here who are "nerds"
have you seen the Team Efficiency Chart post?
I don't consider myself a hoarder just a person who loves to save things
Bio (Life Science) grad here (as well)!
All hail the nerdus amongus!
"I want to get out there, dominate in the low block," Bynum said."That's what I'm here for."
One Nation...under a groove. IAATL(D). It's all about the Lakers (defense).
by Zen and Tonic on Jan 11, 2012 6:49 PM PST up reply actions
Yes they have...

Kobe: "Listen, if you told me at the beginning of the year that we’ve got two games at home to win a championship, yeah, I’ll take that shit"
Different Jazz team tonight. Same Lakers.
Beat them again!
"I want to get out there, dominate in the low block," Bynum said."That's what I'm here for."
One Nation...under a groove. IAATL(D). It's all about the Lakers (defense).
We still have 3 out...
Utah prepre to be Luke’d
"I want to get out there, dominate in the low block," Bynum said."That's what I'm here for."
One Nation...under a groove. IAATL(D). It's all about the Lakers (defense).
Congrats JKapono!
"I want to get out there, dominate in the low block," Bynum said."That's what I'm here for."
One Nation...under a groove. IAATL(D). It's all about the Lakers (defense).

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