A Possible Solution To The Lakers' Point-Guard Dilemma
(Editor's Note: We're pleased today to welcome a guest columnist to Silver Screen and Roll. Emile Avanessian is a Lakers fan based in New York City who writes the excellent blog Hardwood Hype. He's generously contributed the piece below, which follows up nicely on the point-guard discussion we kicked off yesterday. Please give him a warm SS&R welcome, and be sure to follow him on Twitter @hardwoodhype. ~DF)
To borrow a Yankees analogy (a stretch, I know), if Kobe Bryant is the Lakers' Derek Jeter, Derek Fisher is Jorge Posada. The steadying influence for five title winners, Fisher has provided the kind of toughness, leadership and timely play a franchise is lucky to find once in generation. He's done it twice - first bridging the chasm between Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O'Neal, and later, the only guy in shorts who dared challenge Kobe, helping to link the Lakers' monomaniacal great with his teammates.
Twelve seasons. Six three-pointers in the 2001 title clincher in Philly. "0.4." A pair of massive triples (one to force overtime, another to secure victory) in Game Four of the 2009 Finals in Orlando. Eleven fourth-quarter points, including a coast-to-coast three-point play that was nothing short of miraculous, in Game Three of the 2010 Finals in Boston, capped off by the greatest postgame interview you've ever seen. Fisher is the Lakers' rock. He has secured his place in Laker lore and, in my eyes, a roster spot for as long as he wants one.
Alas, however, Fisher's days as a frontline NBA player are behind him. He is, as Dex observed yesterday, a "lion in winter." While this revelation comes as a shock to no one, the shortcomings of Jordan Farmar, Steve Blake and Shannon Brown (who's opted out of his contract with the team), along with the inexperience of the team's talented 2011 second-rounder, Darius Morris, have kept the matter of finding a replacement at the point high on the Lakers' to-do list.
Now, it's easy to assume the Lakers could jump into the free agent pool in search of a young, able-bodied replacement. This, however, presents a pair of problems. First, the Lakers have more than $91 million in salary committed for 2011-12, well above last season's cap of $58 million and more than double the owners' $45 million pipe-dream figure. It's a safe bet that any resolution to the lockout, whenever it arrives, will not make it easier to boost the payroll. The other significant drawback to banking on free agency is the sorry state of the 2011 free agent point guard crop. Even if simply flinging money at the problem were a viable option, Mario Chalmers, Carlos Arroyo or whatever is left of Mike Bibby doesn't inspire a great deal of optimism.
Thus, the Lakers will likely have to try their luck in the trade market.
Let me direct your attention to a 25-year-old point guard whose 2010-11 Adjusted PER of 21.05 (all statistics via HoopData) dwarfed the average for both the league (14.17) and his position (15.71), was good for 23rd in the NBA (minimum 40 games played) and seventh among lead guards, trailing only Russell Westbrook, Derrick Rose, Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Steve Nash and Tony Parker. The 4.54 Adjusted Win Shares he contributed were also well above average (3.44 for the league, 3.72 for point guards), and better than the totals for Jameer Nelson or Jason Terry.
Meanwhile, his 24.21 usage rate was 49th in the league. In 26.3 minutes per game, he averaged 13.3 points and 5.2 assists (a Tony Parker-esque 18.1 and 7.3 per 36 minutes played) and shot 46.6% from the field. His 55.9% True Shooting Percentage trumped the league and point guard averages (54.5% and 53.6%, respectively) and he got to the free-throw line more than your average NBA'er (0.55 free-throw attempts per field-goal attempt, vs. the league average of 0.298). Was he able to get his own shot? You bet: just 28.5% of field goals were "assisted," compared with 36.9% for point guards leaguewide.
As a playmaker, he was a catalyst for his team's (admittedly limited) success, with assist (29.09) and turnover rates (10.74), assists per game (the aforementioned 5.2), "assists+" (adjusted for 3-pointers; 5.8), assists on shots "at the rim" (1.8) and assist-to-turnover ratio (2.35) all at or above the point guard average (in the case of Turnover Rate, below).
So let's get this straight: a 25 year-old lead guard that can score efficiently, gets his own shot, gets teammates involved, doesn't dominate the ball, gets to the line and isn't turnover-prone. All this and, with the exception of fresh-off-of-ACL-surgery Al Jefferson in 2009-10, he's yet to take the floor for an entire season alongside a top-flight talent. Wherever their ideological differences on the future of the Laker offense lie, Kobe Bryant and Andrew Bynum both approve of that message.
I'm speaking, of course, of longtime Hardwood Hype favorite Ramon Sessions, of the suddenly point guard-laden Cleveland Cavaliers. And as of draft night, he and his rather palatable contract, with two years and about $9 million remaining, were officially available.
Now, again, there may be a bit of a hangup. Unfortunately, as Dex also pointed out yesterday, outside of their talented quartet of Kobe, Bynum, Lamar Odom and Pau Gasol, the Lakers do not have a great deal with which to entice a prospective trade partner. With that said, however, perhaps by involving a third team or, assuming certain aspects of the current system live to see a new CBA, creatively leveraging their considerable financial means (this, a future first-rounder and the ever-popular $3 million in cash at least warrants consideration, right?) the Lakers would do well to explore Sessions as a potential remedy to their point guard woes.
Wishful thinking? Perhaps. But here, in the endless desert of labor gridlock, amid the oppressive heat (ironically most everyplace except Southern California), what more do we have?
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Nice!
Here’s the trade. Pau for Sessions, Gibson, Varajeo and a #1.
I posted my reasoning in a prior deal which I suggesteded (gasol for Curry, Udoh and Biedrins). I’ll be brief:
1) Varajeo is the precise type of active low post defender (a cheap imitation of Joakim Noah) who can come off the bench for Bynum or LO.
2) Bynum is freed up in the low post and needs to be in order to get his minutes and realize his potential.
3) Lead guard position solved. Gibson’s a throw in to match salaries, but they don’t need him and the Lakers can always make another deal involving him or Blake.
4) Mike Brown knows Varajeo and Gibson and they know him.
5) This improves Cleveland immensely because they can use Gasol’s talent and leadership in the front court and they have NO use for Sessions or Gibson at this point with Irving and Baron Davis on the team.
Boom!
I agree, but ....
In terms of what the team needs and a realistic shot at a championship, Bynum needs to return to his pre-Pau #2 option role which he will never get with Gasol on the team. The Lakers need outside shooting and an active low post defender like Varajeo. Bynum and Gasol simply don’t work well in the paint together on defense and the Lakers are 5 deep (Gasol, Bynum, Kobe, Odom, Artest) with players who can post up, which is about 2 more than most teams have. The Lakers defense would improve and so would their offense because of the added perimeter threats. Gasol’s points would be made up by increased minutes and touches by Bynum and Sessions.
Yes, in a vacuum it doesn’t make sense, but to improve the team it does. By the way, I am NOT one of those Lakers fans who dislikes Gasol or thinks he’s soft or anything. I think he ran out of gas last season and was pummeled down low because it was easy to sag on him (as one reason) with poor perimeter shooting. I think he’ll have a solid season if they ever have one. I also was one of the strongest advocates of the Lakers 48 mpg 4-5 rotation as being their biggest strength (along with Kobe), but the landscape of the NBA has changed, especially the Western Conference. By the way, the #1 pick in my hypothetical deal would NOT be lottery protected either.
The bottom line is that the Lakers need to take their chances and let Bynum become the force that he is capable of becoming and they need a better defender (like Varajeo) and a competent lead guard (like Sessions). It may not be “enough” for Gasol, but it improves the team IMO because it gives them missing pieces that were evident and glaring in the playoffs.
Biggest issue with this:
When this Lakers team (as in 2009-2011) was playing championship level basketball, they did it with the offense running through Pau Gasol. Not to say that Pau was ever the “first option”, but he’s a multi-threat low post player, with a respectable mid-range game and incredible passing for a big man. You have to live with doubling him and him usually making the right play, or playing him one-on-one and hoping you can guard him, which most teams are ill-equipped to do. The Lakers offense is worse running through any one else than it is through Pau , and I just don’t see how a solid point guard and a hustle player make up for that.
Cleveland is out on this one.!!
Lakers can get Sessions and J.J. Hixon for just Ron Artest, so why would they send Pau in a downgrade deal? If you are dealing with Cleveland; Artest and a second round pick would still get you Sessions and Hixon. Lakers won’t scrape the bottom of the barrel when there are much more lucritive and attractive deals for Gasol out there.
Like: Pau Gasol to Houston for "Louis Scola, Gorin Dragic, Courtney Alexander, and Jared Jeffries= a 4 for 1 deal. or
Gasol and Steve Blake to N.O for Chris Paul and David West. or
Gasol alone for Chris Paul and Marco Belinelli. or
Gasol and two second round picks for Darren Williams and Anthony Morrow.! Again, why
scrape the bottom with G.S. and Cleveland, when you can dismantle Houston, or package Lamar to New Jersey in a Darren Williams deal which would put both Kardasian girls in the same arena for every home game. How’s that for reality T.V.?
by look closer on Jul 27, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
every one know pau is weak, no reason to keep him
by Jabari Tha Gentlemen Fleming on Jul 24, 2011 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions
If it's a No. 1 in next year's draft, as in a possible lottery pick, I'm all for it.
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Not getting enough for Pau
I would never trade Pau Gasol to the Cavs- nothing they give the Lakers (unless they want to give Kyrie Irving) will be worth Gasol and I wouldn’t trade a superstar like him unless I’m getting as much as possible back.
Curry and Udoh? That was a great idea and definitely along the lines of what I’d want for Pau. Sessions and Varajao? Thats quite a big step down in return for the same player.
CALL UP JESUS MONTERO!
its meh
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Pau is still the 2nd best PF in the NBA. The Lakers dont need to change their core. they just need to get better back ups. Trading Pau should not be an option.
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pau is weak he hurted tha team wen they needed him most!!!
by Jabari Tha Gentlemen Fleming on Jul 24, 2011 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Welcome!
And totally agree on Sessions for every reason mentioned. Great job on the stats!
Now it comes to the trade and who it is going to take. I think the best thing going forLakers are all the PG’s on the Cav’s. Realistically, the only way they move Baron is if there is some sort of amnesty clause. Doubt anyone takes the rest that contract. That makes Sessions more movable. I think it takes Pau to get this done, which doesn’t bother me much given what we’d get in return (Sessions, #1, and poo poo platter). Also think we could trade some horrible salaries on both sides (Artest, Walton, Jamison). Doubt we get Varejo but would like that we did. Whatever he isn’t, he definitely has ENERGY, something the Lakers have seen consistently since Madsen (I kid, I kid).
Varajeo MUST be included if Pau's in the deal, otherwise ..
… they are so stocked at pg (Irving, Davis, Sessions, Gibson) that Sessions is very expendable. Sessions and Ryan Hollins for Artest works. That’s a good trade for both teams. They can have Caracter if they want, too.
I've been talking Sessions and Hollins for Artest for three months!
Smart deal KobeMVP888………: )
by look closer on Jul 27, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Look at the saleries and stop "Not" making the money match!!!
Pau Gasol gets $18,714,150 next season and Sessions gets $4,257,973 that leaves a whopping $14,456,177 left that Cleveland owes us! So tell me: how is Cleveland the player in this deal? They’re NOT!! The Lakers are, and Cleveland better Stuff that $14,456,177 into a neatly wrapped package of explosives if they think the Lakers would part with a Hall of Famer for menial talent. Lets not degrade ourselves anymore, and start talking about Pau Gasol in the same sentence with CP3 and D-Will. You don’t send out Hall of Famers and NOT get one back! Cleveland is in “NO” position to call shots, with a lineup of mostly “Flash in the pan commodity” P.G.’s…
by look closer on Jul 27, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with your reasoning
just completely do not expect us to be able to find anyone willing to take on Luke’s contract
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"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Anyone know if the Lakers could possibly use the trade exception....
from the Sasha to New Jersey deal to get Ramon Sessions? Or is it more likely that Cleveland will want an actual player in the deal? LA doesn’t have much trade bait, and I’m 100% against trading Pau! Not unless we’re getting Deron Williams in return
Pau is still the 2nd best PF in the NBA. The Lakers dont need to change their core. they just need to get better back ups. Trading Pau should not be an option.
Absolutely!!
We could use our trade exception to take his contract in
But yeah, I’d imagine that Cleveland wants some asset back, even if they’re just dumping Sessions to prevent a logjam that might hinder Irving’s development. I suppose the Lakers could offer any of Caracter, Ebanks, Barnes, or next year’s first rounder in the deal, and I wouldn’t be terribly sad at parting with any of the aforementioned for Sessions. Also, if it still exists in the new CBA, we could work a sign-and-trade with Brown’s contract if he was willing to go to Cleveland and there was mutual interest there.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Next years draft
Is supposed to be deep, so I don’t know if I would want to trade away our draft pick. Although, our pick will hopefully (probably?) be the last pick of the draft, and we do really need a point guard.
by Bruin2011 on Jul 22, 2011 8:12 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
That's true, although Sessions is still fairly young and on a decent contract
So he’d be someone I’d be willing to part with for a late first rounder, even in next year’s draft, which, yeah, is supposed to be pretty deep. Given that Sessions has had some pretty good production in the league, he’d be a safer option, especially since we need a point immediately.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Yeah
Im just frustrated with the lakers willingness to give up draft pick when we need to get younger. This would be a case where I wouldn’t mind though, sibce we would be taking a proven young commodity over potential
by Bruin2011 on Jul 23, 2011 11:51 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I know how you feel!
I balk every time someone mentions trading a future 1st round pick. In this case, LA would be getting back good value in Ramon Sessions, so it’s not ok, but I’m really looking forward to a day when LA stops easily trading away their draft picks.
With Phil’s “veteran-friendly” atmosphere gone, I’m curious to see how Mike Brown will handle the young player we currently have. With the exception of Caracter and Majok, I think LA has some good potential role players, and it’d be nice to keep them. And if we add Ramon Sessions to that mix, even better!!
by SmokeAndAshes on Jul 23, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Correction.......
In this case, LA would be getting back good value in Ramon Sessions, so it’snotok,
by SmokeAndAshes on Jul 23, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I hear you
As the Mavs showed during the draft, those picks are valuable, as they parlayed theirs into Rudy Fernandez. And Darrell Arthur, Toney Douglas, and Greivis Vasquez are testament to the talent you’re passing up at that spot.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
This is a wonderful idea.
I wanted Ramon Sessions 2 years ago, after he had his breakout year with Milwaukee. Unfortunately, Kahn went and nabbed him, along with every other young PG he could get his hands on. I’ve known about him for a while, but I only discovered him through fantasy NBA. For some reason he’s always been really under the radar. He needs to be a starter somewhere.
Sessions is the real deal
As Shazam mentioned above, the dude was destroying people when he was in Milwaukee…I remember a few times, he would fack around and get a triple double. I do remember Sessions went to Minnesota only to be “stuck” behind Johnny Flynn. Then he goes to Cleveland and doesn’t get the playing time he deserved until later in the season. Then Cleveland goes and trades for the Baron, THEN pick Kyrie Irving in the Draft. BTW wtf is wrong with Minnesota and Cleveland getting all those point guards?!? We can also tell Cleveland that if they trade us Sessions, we can meet Miami in next year’s finals and take Lebronze’s lunch money! If we tell Dan Gilbert THAT, he will give us Ramon for free!
Oh and trading Pau is a stupid idea
Going into last season I thought he became the top power forward in the game. Pau has all the fundamental skills that a lot of other power forwards lack. His game is complete, and the last few matchups he had against Duncan prove how far he’s come. I just think that a lot of people have started to take him for granted because of his lack of production in the Dallas series. Every player is entitled to make mistakes or for a let down. Lets not forget that even the great Earvin Magic Johnson screwed up in the playoffs/finals. So give Pau a break, i just hope he goes into F U mode and comes back next year with a vengeance…
I think Dirk pretty much just showed that he has an equally all around game as Pau
even with his lesser defense. That said, trading Pau for anything less than All-star talent or multiple pieces is dumb. However, the only player untradeable is Kobe with his trade clause. Be open to change, but don’t be dumb is all I say
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I remember before the all star game when he burned us
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I would rather use the exception on Daniel Gibson given that the offense
will be predicated on getting the big men involved along with Kobe and maybe Artest in the post.
Yeah, uhm, I thought Luther Head was available?
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lebron should just lock himself away and not talk for the rest of forever-LA32
We don't want Kobe to get too jealous
of someone starting at SG over him though. We don’t need anymore extra drama on the season. lol
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Yo welcome Emile!
Bringin’ that East Coast flava! Represent, woot woot! …ahem..sorry.
There’s no doubt that many of us love Fish but it’s imperative to get a decent talent to run the show, and run it right. It seems like the Lakes are prone to getting bogged-down by pg’s who show some sign of promise only to being busts, and it’s quite hackneyed at this point. So really, can we finally be relieved in that area of our team? Here’s hoping we land something good or that one of our draft picks embraces the challenge.
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Thanks so much to everyone for all of the kind words
Hey guys, I am a huge fan of SS&R and the community that surrounds the site. Really excited to have the opportunity to contribute here. I hope everyone enjoyed the piece and look forward to meeting like this again soon.
No offense but...
It’s not Varajo, Varajeo, Varjina. It’s VAREJAO… Railly though.
by LizzakeShizzow on Jul 23, 2011 1:36 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I wouldn't give up any of the core players for him
Gasol, Odom, Artest, Bynum and obviously Kobe and Fish. But I think there would definitely be a way to trade for Sessions without giving up too much. And I wouldn’t be terribly upset about parting with any of them since the Lakers are in serious need of a PG.
Whether Sessions enters the starting lineup or backs up Fisher with significant minutes, it doesn’t really matter to me. I wouldn’t have a problem at all keeping the starting lineup the same so long as Fisher’s minutes are limited and a younger athletic PG like Sessions gets the bulk of the minutes. This also will keep Fisher more fresh for the postseason, where I still believe he may have some final heroics left in him.
CALL UP JESUS MONTERO!
Sessions isn't bad but...
I don’t think he’s worth trading away Pau or Odom, plus he can’t shoot the three for crap. A much better option I think would be to make a deal for a high or mid first round pick in next year’s draft. With an aging team like ours that can’t afford a Chris Paul or Dwill in free agency, draft picks should take priority over current players that are available.
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Makes sense, although I only see three lottery prospects that would work
Duke’s Austin Rivers, Kentucky’s Marquis Teague, and Texas’ Myck Kabongo. Rivers is the most skilled and fundamentally sound but likely the worst athlete of the bunch, Teague is super-athletic and probably the highest upside but no jumper, and Kabongo is a mix of the two and has the least weaknesses in his game, although he probably isn’t quite as athletic as Teague. The rest of the lottery prospects are all wings and bigs, and while having Harrison Barnes next to Kobe would be pretty sick, it’s not as pressing of a need. By the way, Kentucky is fucking stacked. Anthony Davis, Michael Gilchrist, and Marquis Teague, all top fifteen prospects, on the same team.
As for Sessions, I wouldn’t try to get him unless he’s gettable for the Sasha trade exception and a first rounder or any one of Ebanks, Caracter, or Barnes. Would be an opportunistic pickup only if Cleveland really needed to dump him and didn’t want to take on any salary. No point in doing a big trade when the rest of their assets are pretty terrible (unless they’re offering us multiple lottery picks for Pau for instance).
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Sorry for the lateness...
but sincerest congrats E and absolutely, Sessions is a guy to go after. No earthly idea how we get him, especially since we no longer have Chukwudiebere to dangle, haha.
Once again, it's much too late.
THis is a great deal cuz tha secret is out on paugasol he is weak inside, yea he has a good shot but as u seen n tha playoffs he didnt step up wen they needed him sooooo noo need to keep him
by Jabari Tha Gentlemen Fleming on Jul 24, 2011 9:42 PM PDT reply actions
So you don't like Pau Gasol?
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nah loved him but he hurtin tha team rite nw.
by Jabari Tha Gentlemen Fleming on Jul 24, 2011 9:54 PM PDT reply actions
WOW! You must have forgotten about the two rings and three trips to the finals
Players are allowed to have a bad series or a number of games. When AB got hurt and Ratliff went down, who was eating up all of the minutes at Center during the 1st half of the season? Whenever Drew is out (which is often), Pau has to take over at the center spot. Lets face it, Pau will never admit it, but he was wore out dude! If not for Pau we don’t get those two titles. AND no matter how you look at it, even if you’re a Laker hater, you have to realize that he’s top 3 among power forwards in the league. If you’re a Laker fan, then he becomes arguably THE best PF in the L…which in my eyes he is. Kobe didn’t play particularly well either, in fact none of the Lakers were great, so do we blow up the team?
Actually, Pau did admit to being tired.
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Then THAT's great
I mean alot of the time the players won’t admit it because other people think they’re making up excuses, and most athletes won’t admit to that. But I’m actually GLAD that he admitted it, because its what I’d been suspecting for a long time. So, thanks Socal, I’m actually happy to hear that lol..
Still, if you are trading Gasol, a Hall of Famer must come back to us!
In the form of a star point gaurd like CP3 or Darren Williams.
Lakers will use Bynum in the Dwight Howard deal to prevent Howard from signing with Boston, Miami or New York….
by look closer on Jul 27, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
We can get Sessions and Hixon for Just Ron Artest! Leave Pau Gasol out of it.....
Cleveland would owe us over 14 million dollars in a Gasol for Sessions deal.
Leave Cleveland and Gasol out of the same sentence. Save Gasol for something bigger, like CP3 or Darren Williams….Hall of Famer out and a Hall of Famer in, makes sense……
Actually, you can forget about J.J. Hickson
I think he was traded to the Sacramento Kings for Casspi, I’m not sure on that but I remember a friend texting me and saying, so…Cleveland didn’t trade Hickson for Amar’e because they were holding out for Casspi…or something along those lines lol. But I agree with you, I’d be open to a trade if it meant: getting younger, and getting back all-star caliber talent. ALSO, the player has to be at least top 5 at his position, OR if we get back a two player package that are all-stars or potential all-star talent and thats it. But yes sir, keep Gasol’s name out of that trade.

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