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Mike Brown, Hired To Fix The Laker Defense, Will Not Be Fixing The Laker Defense

When we last saw the Lakers' defense, it was getting annihilated by the Dallas Mavericks and looking very much like something that needs to be torn down and rebuilt from the ground up. The Laker front office appeared to share this opinion when it hired Mike Brown as the new head coach. Say what you will about the Cavaliers' offensive foibles under Brown, but his Cavs were excellent on D, and Brown's reputation as a defensive strategist par excellence was the one thing even those of us most skeptical of his hiring were forced to concede. And I think we've all been looking forward to seeing what schematic adjustments he's got up his sleeve to get the Laker D back to championship form.

Until now. Because apparently, Mike Brown won't be making any changes at all to the Laker defense. The same system that struggled for long stretches last season and got blown apart by Dallas? Mike's good with it. No changes needed, except maybe he'll yell at guys a little more than Phil did. This exciting news comes from assistant coach Chuck Person, who today brought the LA Times' Mark Medina up to speed on the thinking of the Lakers' newly installed brain trust.

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Here's the exchange in question. You can read Mark's full Q&A with Person here.

Medina: Given how the team played defense last season and the fact there is a coaching change, what scheme do you envision the team having on defense? What elements will be similar to last season and what elements will be different?

Person: I think the basic scheme will be the same. We'll keep the ball out of the middle of the floor, force the ball baseline without getting beat, come over from the weak side to do what we call "trap the box," and make sure the ball stays out of the paint. We are going to shrink the floor and invite opponents to shoot with a contested hand on every shot, so that won't change from last year. What will change is we will have the players be held more accountable for executing our defensive philosophy and defensive game plans from game-to-game. Mike won't have any leniency when it comes to that end of the floor. He'll allow them to make some mistakes offensively, but there won't be much room defensively for guys to go off on their own and do things outside of the defensive system that we implement.

Got that? Mike Brown, Defensive Sorcerer, will not be making any changes to the defensive system. No, the problem was that Phil Jackson, Basketball Coaching God With 11 Rings, didn't hold guys accountable enough. So Mike Brown, who's been roundly criticized for the fact that no one on his Cleveland teams, up to and including LeBron James, was ever held accountable for anything, is going to fix all that. This is what the scientific community calls "ass backwards."

I get that the situation in Cleveland was messed up, but come on. If you really think the problem was a lack of accountability, Mike Brown is not the guy you hire. And if he's not going to work some X's and O's magic on the D, then what exactly is he doing here? Somewhere, Brian Shaw is shaking his head and pouring another drink.

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Well, this is awkward.

by Shazam! on Jul 12, 2011 12:56 PM PDT reply actions  

D-E-F-E-N-S-E

DEFENSE!!!

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by airdawg818 on Jul 12, 2011 12:59 PM PDT reply actions  

I may be I may be wrong...

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by Hdg23 on Jul 12, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

but i doubt it

He got his name when his parents were in a restaurant. His father was very pleased with a steak he ordered and at the time his mother was pregnant. So his dad asked the waiter what's the name of the steak that he ordered and the waiter, obviously told him. It's called, Kobe.

by lakerdynasty on Jul 12, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

LMAO

hilarious.

Defensive accountability got Sasha no playtime cuz of his mental errors. It also got Artest less minutes this year when he was having an off game. What could he possibly change? Gonna yank Kobe in favor of Morris because of a wide open shot? Hmm, this will be interesting. lol

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by Marty Mart on Jul 12, 2011 1:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh and don't forget making Bynum the focus of the offense.

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by SoCalGal on Jul 12, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

What the fuckity fuck.

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by SoCalGal on Jul 12, 2011 1:19 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Jason Terry just hit another three.

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by LakerAce on Jul 12, 2011 1:44 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

For some reason

I want us to do bad so that Buss could look like a jack-ass…… But u know I love the Lakers so I want them to succeed. But then if they do, the media will be like “Oh Mike Brown is a great coach”. Which in some effect will discredit Phil’s legacy.

Since you playing ball let me show you how I put my "D" down........ Rebound!!! Your man dropped the ball and I caught it, Im trying to Lay-up in ur body, ya Im ballin!!!

by BIGBO on Jul 12, 2011 1:50 PM PDT reply actions  

CONUNDRUM!!

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by LakerAce on Jul 12, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

BLAME JIM

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by shaqfor3 on Jul 12, 2011 1:51 PM PDT reply actions  

U damn right!

If the success of the Lakers depends on this guy for the next 20-25 years then man we are going to be in some trouble………

Since you playing ball let me show you how I put my "D" down........ Rebound!!! Your man dropped the ball and I caught it, Im trying to Lay-up in ur body, ya Im ballin!!!

by BIGBO on Jul 12, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Looks like John Daly.

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by Joshua S on Jul 12, 2011 4:35 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

But its funny though

That Kobe is on all these videos now. He has a way of keeping his name out there. I just hope that when September rolls around we have some NBA games to discuss!

Since you playing ball let me show you how I put my "D" down........ Rebound!!! Your man dropped the ball and I caught it, Im trying to Lay-up in ur body, ya Im ballin!!!

by BIGBO on Jul 12, 2011 1:52 PM PDT reply actions  

WHAT THE ASS

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by Cup Noodles on Jul 12, 2011 2:16 PM PDT reply actions  

I'll play devil's advocate here...

Perhaps Mike Brown saw that 17-1 stretch after the All-Star game and thinks that if simply bringing and added focus to the Lakers would allow them to replicate that type of defense again. It wasn’t an issue of the Lakers not being able to defend or having the wrong system, they just couldn’t seem to replicate that elite level of defense after that stretch. The real issue may be just finding a way to have that defense show up more often than not.

by Actuarially Sound on Jul 12, 2011 3:28 PM PDT reply actions  

To go with that though

I’m not quite so sure this scheme will hold up if the major cog in the middle, Bynum, goes down again.

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by Marty Mart on Jul 12, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I sure hope you don't think our title hopes are pinned on Andrew.

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by SoCalGal on Jul 12, 2011 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

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by Marty Mart on Jul 12, 2011 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

well if Pau did not suck so much on defense

the Lakers may transcend what they did during that 17-1 stretch

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by imposibol on Jul 12, 2011 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

This disgusts me.

The level of instability creeping into our fine organization is really pissing me off.

by The Phil Jackson 5 on Jul 12, 2011 3:35 PM PDT reply actions  

The problem with the defense seemed more in...

execution than in the scheme. I don’t see a problem in keeping the same basic plan. The team needs to step it up and re-energize, or make some roster moves that will bring hunger and quicker legs.
Curse you lockout boredom!

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by Joshua S on Jul 12, 2011 3:38 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

right

so how do you step up the energy without:
1. making roster moves
or
2. making changes to the systems.

Is Lamar, to select only one example, suddenly going to play HARDER for Mike Brown than he did for Phil. That seems unlikely unless some kind of pressure is applied.

by Metta World Peace on Jul 12, 2011 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

This isn't about stubborn players needing a pep talk.

The Lakers do need roster moves to adapt with the league and give them fresher legs. A restful offseason was more of what I was thinking as well.

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by Joshua S on Jul 13, 2011 1:43 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

preach it dex

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by _logan_ on Jul 12, 2011 3:51 PM PDT reply actions  

all laker news is bad news

as if what happened last year was not bad enough,now we are enjoying this movie smh

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by Czheck on Jul 12, 2011 4:24 PM PDT reply actions  

A little bit of discretion ...

Perhaps Person (and Mike Brown) think the defensive system is fine because it is implied that Fisher will be replaced or playing a reduced role at PG. (I am not blaming all of the Lakers D problems on Fish, though.) And at this point in time, Person doesn’t see any point in saying, We expect some small changes to the personnel that will help us with the schemes.

Me personally, I want Shannon to stay for the dunks, but he can be a frustrating person to watch on the defensive end. ANNNNND … Pau has shown he can play much better on both ends of the court, and if we don’t get that Spaniard back, I’m not sure what options the Lakers really have.

by Tom Hicks on Jul 12, 2011 4:51 PM PDT reply actions  

I didn't think there would be a huge overhaul of the defensive system to begin with

There will probably be some changes defensively, i mean were in July so im pretty sure coaches just don’t stop working on schemes and just wait for the players to come into camp. Pearson also said the basic scheme will stay the same, i mean a scheme that likes to take away the paint and force teams to take CONTESTED jumpshots sounds like good defense to me. I don’t ever remember thinking “God our defensive scheme is so flawed” it was always about the execution of it. And a teams basic scheme can stay the same, but how its executed can change greatly and what players role in the defense from last year to this year (or whenever the lockout ends) can change as well.

And im just gonna go ahead an make the assumption that Pearson is 100% that we will make no overhaul changes to the basic scheme (It is July so alot can change, and since its not from Brown himself ill wait till its closer to the season and players are in camp) To me the bigger issue is that an assistant coach that was with Phil Jackson the last two years, kinda just threw him under the bus… or Buss… sorry about that.

by Fin Fan Forever on Jul 12, 2011 5:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Wait, What?

Why all the grief over Chuck’s comment? Please see the third question posted in Medina’s article… here’s is part of the Rifleman’s response that should clarify the context a bit more in regards to the defense and Brown being a “Defensive Sorcerer”.

“My strength is on the defensive side of the ball. The system we are going to implement will be similar to last season because it’s a system I learned from Mike Brown. So there won’t be much change in the defensive philosophy.”

Sounds like Coach Brown had his imprints on this team last year, which in part fueled that 17-1 run. More accountability can’t be understated either. For a team full of veterans, accountability seemed very lacking at times last season.

Finally, there are other responses from Chuck that indicate that this will be the base defense and there will be some wrinkles. Heck he even says that in the quote I posted.

This all seems like nothing to see here. Keep moving.

by smoothaswilkes on Jul 12, 2011 5:18 PM PDT reply actions  

OK, but if you’re fundamentally satisfied with the defensive scheme (and I’m not but let’s put that aside), why hire Mike Brown? Defensive X’s and O’s are the one thing everyone agrees he’s good at. It’s as if if you hired Mike D’Antoni but then were like, “Eh, I think we’ll just stick with the Triangle.”

And yeah, accountability definitely is a good thing. But again, the lack of accountability was one of the major problems with his Cleveland teams. You can argue that it wasn’t primarily his fault, but there’s nothing in his track record that would lead you to believe Mike Brown = Master of Accountability.

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by DexterFishmore on Jul 12, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

LeBron had everyone in the Cavs organization...

by their gentlemen’s area. When you’re forced to live and die by the most unaccountable superstar in the NBA, your options are limited. It looks like Mike Brown and the Lakers feel that he’ll get much better results with a team being led by players who’ll be more accountable and who know exactly what it takes to win it.
Not saying this roster is the perfect model of accountability, but it is way more favorable than the Cavs Brown had.
Lets see how this translates on the court.

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by Joshua S on Jul 12, 2011 5:51 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, I agree with your assessment of what happened in Cleveland. But that just mitigates his past shortcomings. It doesn’t explain what he brings to the table now. The hiring has been sold to us primarily on the basis of his defensive sorcery, and now we’re being told: oh, the defensive system was fine, the problem was that guys just weren’t accountable.

But what reason is there to think Mike Brown will bring accountability to the locker room? If they’d hired Larry Brown on that basis, I’d say OK – not my first choice, but yeah, Larry’s an old school disciplinarian. The hiring would rationally connect what the team supposedly needs with what the coach can provide. Looking at Mike’s track record in that area, the best possible verdict is “Incomplete – Room to Improve,” which doesn’t seem like the standard we should be aiming for.

I’m definitely open to giving Mike a chance, as I think we all are. But I don’t have much confidence his hiring was terribly well thought out. It’s increasingly unclear why the front office decided to hire Mike and what they’re hoping to get from him.

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by DexterFishmore on Jul 12, 2011 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

they were probably looking for a coach who wasnt gonna retire on them

in the first year they were here lol

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by desecrator09 on Jul 12, 2011 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Definitely not well thought out.

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by SoCalGal on Jul 12, 2011 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

An outline of the strategy, as best I can tell

1. Phil’s gone, right? OK, cool.
2. Everyone associated with Phil, clean out your desks.
3. Hey, that Mike Brown gave a good interview!
4. Hire Mike Brown.
5. ???
6. PROFIT

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by DexterFishmore on Jul 12, 2011 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I honestly believe this is what happened.

It moved too quickly for any real discussion or thoughtful consideration of the team, the players, the organization, the world, the universe, anything.

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by SoCalGal on Jul 12, 2011 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey Dex, you forgot one step.......

1. Phil’s gone, right? OK, cool.
2. Everyone associated with Phil, clean out your desks.
3. Hey, that Mike Brown gave a good interview!
4. Hire Mike Brown.
5. Collect Underpants
6. ???
7. PROFIT

by KOBE is MVP on Jul 13, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha - true

I stand corrected.

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by DexterFishmore on Jul 13, 2011 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not buying the idea that the Lakers were unaccountable.

The lack of execution I saw boiled down to a tired, veteran team who lacked the hunger of their opponent. Isn’t that really the challenge of the repeat? I get the feeling Kobe is a very rare breed when it comes to hunger for titles, not many truly want it as bad. Three in a row is tough to pull off when the rest of the league starts catching up to you and you don’t have a new pitch to throw at them.
We’ll have plenty of time to Monday morning QB Mike Brown, but lets see how he plays on Sunday first.

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by Joshua S on Jul 12, 2011 10:05 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

The D’Antoni analogy doesn’t make sense me. He didn’t invent the triangle or ever run it. Brown, on the other hand, did create the defensive scheme we ran last year. Person got it from Brown from their days with the Pacers. Regardless, I’m more of a wait a see kind of guy. The defense worked well during an awesome stretch and, while, it let them down in the playoffs and end of season, I think there is more to the story than “the system sucked”.

As for accountability issues with Brown, absolutely, that will be the biggest question going in the the next season, whenever it starts. Again, I’ll take the wait and see approach. I do believe that people can grow from experiences. I don’t believe that Brown was entirely at fault for what happened in Cleveland. He was a first time head coach that didn’t have sway with the front office. What first time head coach does? Winning cures all but winning comes from solid and stable organizations that allows that to happen (see Pat Riley). The LeBron era Cavs don’t provide me with the full story on Mike Brown’s capabilities. Again, I’ll wait and see.

by smoothaswilkes on Jul 12, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

i think his point is...

if we already were running “the mike brown defensive system” last year, and his presence does nothing to change or enhance the scheme (which we don’t really know) then why not hire someone else who’s specialty is something we don’t already have. for example, we could’ve hired jvg for offense or pick and roll schemes since we’re already running “the mike brown system” through chuck person. the way the article reads it makes it seem like we hired a specialist for a head coach who’s not changing what our other specialist was already doing. it’s like having two jordan farmar’s. too many ears.

as for accountability and first time head coaches, phil won in his second year. he also had the entire team loving him and listening to his advice as if it were gospel. you think jordan at that point would listen to just any first time head coach? you think mike brown could corral jordan and pippen together? therein lies the debate.

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by _logan_ on Jul 12, 2011 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

What?

I’m not going to argue Dex’s POV with ya but I had a different take. The fact there would be no changes defensively was the original issue. I pointed out, in fact, what’s to change…it was Brown’s scheme from the start. Tweaks will occur. They always do.

Talk about a Pandora’s box of debate. You want me to compare Phil/MJ to Brown/LeBron? Can’t do it and it’s not the point. Phil/MJ = GOAT period. I will debate that Brown’s ability to hold players accountable on the Lakers will be under much different circumstances than Brown trying, or not, to hold players accountable in Cleveland. (And really we’re only talking about one specific player in this circumstance.)

Look, like it or not Brown is the Lakers coach. Kobe is on the wrong side of his career arch. Neither are going anywhere anytime soon. Both need to work together to reach a common goal of winning championships. Can’t wait to see it in action, one way or the other.

by smoothaswilkes on Jul 12, 2011 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

you asked what first time coach does...

so i responded with our last coach. i’m sure there’s more. point is, as much as it might be absurd to attack brown for what happened in cleveland, the same goes for defending him. i hate all these debates, but whatever – it’s lockout time.

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by _logan_ on Jul 12, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t really defending. More about taking a wait a see approach.

Ergh. I really want the dang lockout over. I miss summer league. I miss free agency. I miss trades. I miss the Lakers. : (

by smoothaswilkes on Jul 12, 2011 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

i hear ya

rory mcillroy isn’t doing it for me.

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by _logan_ on Jul 12, 2011 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

damn calm down

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by desecrator09 on Jul 12, 2011 6:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Well, to start, Person's system wasn't exactly bad

In fact, it was conceptually probably superior to any defense of the years prior, but we never really implemented it until the 17-1 streak, and even then, it was a consequence of effort more than anything and because Bynum was an absolute monster. Refine what was already an elite defensive system, and there you go. In the exit interviews, pretty much everyone acknowledged that there was a big learning curve for the defense, but that it was very effective when properly implemented, which was few and far between. If it’s true that it’s derived from Brown’s playbook, that wouldn’t surprise me, seeing as it was a more difficult level of Xs and Os than any previous system that the Lakers picked up in years past, and implies it came from Pop’s/Carlisle’s systems.

Moreover, in the particular quote cited, Person refers to the “basic” system — shrink the floor, force baseline, apply second effort — which is exactly what Brown said would be main hallmarks of the defense in his opening press conference. That doesn’t mean that there aren’t going to be particular points on which Brown modifies or streamlines, whether for purposes of execution or to teach in a better manner. Person implies as such when he mentions that Brown will concentrate more on the actual execution, and that this will be easier because their systems are similar. Furthermore, Phil never struck me as much of an Xs and Os manager in this regard during game-time, and during the playoffs, our breakdown wasn’t really effort as much as it was execution, which will receive renewed emphasis and probably be implemented better because it’s coming from multiple voices.

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by Ben R on Jul 12, 2011 7:58 PM PDT reply actions  

OK, fair enough, BUT...

Do you buy that improved execution/accountability is the cure for what ails the D? Because I think the problems run much deeper than that.

I have two main issues with the system:

1. The notion of routing everything to the baseline gives the big men too much to do. Essentially they’re being asked to close off the driving lane, AND keep track of their own man AND control the defensive glass, which is just too much. Usually it’s the defensive rebounding that suffered. I feel like there needs to be an approach to dealing with ballhandlers that’s better than, “Just wave them toward Drew.”

2. I really don’t like how we overload our perimeter guys on one side of the court. They just don’t have the legs to recover in time when the ball gets reversed to a weakside shooter. Maybe it could work if you have a younger, faster backcourt, but the Lakers’ personnel as it exists doesn’t strike me as well suited to the task.

These strike me as schematic problems in need of schematic fixes. They aren’t the only problems we saw last year – pick and roll defense, for example, is something that can be substantially improved with better execution – but I think they’re real issues that the better teams will be able to exploit and that call for some new strategery.

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by DexterFishmore on Jul 12, 2011 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

stop fuckn doubtn him

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by desecrator09 on Jul 12, 2011 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the grand majority of problems could be solved via execution and the players giving a shit

As mostly, only the latter was present after the ASG, and we looked freaking unbeatable during that period. I don’t think the rotations were great even then, but the sheer fact that there was a legit second effort there to lock down on defense, along with Drew erasing mistakes left and right made up for all of it. So combine that with some better overall execution and the defense should be fine.

1. That’s a fair point. Part of the post-ASG surge was because Drew quite literally did everything you just listed on his lonesome. I think that funneling baseline a strategy that can work if 1) the other big can rotate to help via weakside rebounding or picking up a loose man 2) the wing (or point) who was just beat does more than a token effort at getting back to his man or picking up the big (as this almost never happened) 3) the wings help out with the defensive rebounding responsibilities (or the point, per your hilarious counter of Fish’s rebounding prowess last year).

The first item was why the defense looked better with Odom out there with Drew instead of Pau, as he could handle those rotations, but I think Pau checking out mentally hurt a lot because he basically forgot how to rebound after the ASG break and while that was okay when Drew was Dwight Howard-lite, it hurt a lot when his intensity slowed down a bit afterwards. The rest of the points go back to the accountability/effort thing, as better rotations and some smarter help defense would compensate rotation-wise, as they’re not reversing the ball that fast if Drew gets out on the penetrating player.

So yeah, while overall, it’s demanding (and would help to have the actual Dwight Howard to pull this off), it’s doable if the other players pitch in more than they did last season, and Brown’s presence should ensure that they’re constantly reminded of their assignments. So even if Drew doesn’t come next season with all of that intensity he had pre-ASG, it should still be at that level with all the kinks worked out, and it would be even better when they focused on a real opponent.

2. lol, that’s why I want Iggy. He’s basically like having Revis or Asomugha — shuts down part of the court by removing a player from the game and is athletic and active enough to be a factor in help defense as well. If we really can get him for only Odom/Walton, then being able to cross-match any combination of Kobe/Iggy/Artest/Barnes for three positions essentially fixes 90% of your concern there.

If not, then I still think it’s a problem of rotations and effort. If for instance, Kobe and Artest put forth more than a token effort at stopping a penetrating wing, that alone stops the chain reaction that leads to someone getting open off a slow rotation or someone getting caught on a screen. There will always be cases in which no rotation will be fast enough, but you can’t help those regardless of scheme.

Moreover, for all of this, I really doubt that Brown will sit there and watch a particular scheme fail multiple times in game without adjusting it properly for the opponent, as we’ll no longer have the Phil “figure it out dammit” lack of timeouts, so there should be more micro-adjustments game to game beyond the scope of the general overall scheme.

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by Ben R on Jul 13, 2011 1:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

If the following is true then I see a lot of issues with Kobe because it reflects exactly what he does

to over compensate for his lack of speed on the defensive end. Too many times the Lakers were beat because Kobe left his man wide open.

but there won’t be much room defensively for guys to go off on their own and do things outside of the defensive system that we implement.

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by Jelly Bean on Jul 12, 2011 8:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Every defensive scheme has a weakness...

a defense works (or doesn’t work) primarily due to execution (or lack of it). If you are playing against a small, quick team you concentrate on X, if you are playing against a slow deliberate team you concentrate on Y. The Lakers overall defensive scheme last year was fine…but against Dallas they didn’t adjust their scheme TOGETHER!

by BaldBilly on Jul 13, 2011 7:46 AM PDT reply actions  

Interesting.

I think Mike Brown will adjust the system to suit the players on the team. The other defensive system was obliterated by a team that moved the ball extremely well. Maybe the Lakers were tired (playing for a fourth straight NBA Finals appearance takes a toll on person; that can’t be disputed). Too tired to execute and make the necessary recovery to their own. One of the things I’ve noticed with the Lakers defense is that they always had a guard or small forward guarding a big when the defense focused on the ball on the strong side. Ball gets reversed and a wide open three is given because the guard guarding the big gets screen by the big man and can’t recover to their own man. That seems to be too many moving parts in that scenario.

Secondly, the Lakers aren’t young on the perimeter either, so asking them to recover from covering a big doesn’t make much sense. I think the scheme could work if the Lakers have a viable bench with youth and athleticism to keep the starters fresh. The Lakers still need to add some scoring to the bench.

Thirdly, the Lakers are asking Bynum, a guy with the knee that is being saved by technological advances in brace making, to do a ton of heavy lifting. Sure, Bynum could do it…….in spurts. Over an 82 game schedule, I don’t think Bynum could do it. That knee could buckle at any time. Jackson has always stated that Bynum won’t be a high minute player in his career. Truer statements haven’t ever been spoken.

I just think much adjustment will have to occur on the defense to suit the personnel. I don’t think the Lakers have the right personnel to execute that scheme daily. Who is going to back up Bynum when he inevitably goes out of the game for a break? Pau? Its not his game. The Lakers would need a weakside shot blocker like Bynum to keep the scheme consistent when the bench players are in the game. Adjustments should be ongoing on defensive schemes and updating the roster. The lockout doesn’t help either.

by E-ROC on Jul 13, 2011 8:56 AM PDT reply actions  

MASS SUICIDE

Quality is our dignity. Service is our lift.

by LOOOeee on Jul 13, 2011 11:23 AM PDT reply actions  

Just awesome.

I’ll wait until the season starts to pass real judgement, but this isn’t very encouraging.

"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"-Wayne Gretzky"-Michael Scott.

by SharksFanEst.1994 on Jul 13, 2011 11:31 AM PDT reply actions  

Accountability

Does this mean Kobe has to stay on his man instead of roaming on defense? I don’t think that caused the problem against Dallas, but would help shore up our defense during the regular season.

by 81 Witness on Jul 13, 2011 2:34 PM PDT reply actions  

I want to see Coach Brown succeed.

It’d be nice to see that all this fucking panic was for no reason.

"This ain't a figment of my imagination, buddy, this is where I live. Bama." -Yelawolf

by Deuce4Mamba on Jul 14, 2011 7:11 AM PDT reply actions  

Yes, that would be nice.

In order to be irreplaceable one must always be different. - Coco Chanel
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by SoCalGal on Jul 14, 2011 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Coach Brown won't be the problem for the Lakers

Just like Phil Jackson wasn’t the problem for them this year.

I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.

by Chiefs_swagger on Jul 19, 2011 7:11 AM PDT reply actions  

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