Trade Rumor Du Jour: Monta Ellis

Everything Dexter mentioned in his article was spot on. Other things to consider though:

- If I’m GSW, and I (supposedly) have a chance to trade Ellis for Iguodala vs Odom, I deal for Iguodala 10 out of 10 times.
- Then again, from PHI’s perspective, LAC’s offer of Kaman for Iggy makes a lot better sense for both sides. PHI already has enough undersized scoring guards.
- I’m very hesitant and unsure how Ellis would fit in on a halfcourt oriented team, with Kobe dominating the ball, and two bigs camping in the paint for much of the game. Would he figure out and embrace his role in the pecking order quickly? Or would he sink beneath the weight of all the adjustments he’d have to make?
- That said, I think the right environment could energize and take advantage of his (latent) defensive potential, and he could have to worry less about not scoring as much if he were directly inserted into LO’s 6th man role in the Jason Terry/Manu Ginobili/Jamal Crawford role. Then again, on paper, an Ellis-Blake/Fisher-Barnes-Caracter/Ebanks bench (assuming Shannon opts out) probably wouldn’t scare other teams out there. Oh yeah, and this is ASSUMING Ellis would accept coming off the bench, which I’d seriously doubt.
- I think a lot of us are in accord that this team needs a solid tweak or two, but nothing major. But, given the situation in which we’d HAVE TO BLOW IT UP, I think it’s fair to say that there are certain players we’d target before even considering Ellis.
- This also reminds me of the flash-in-the-pan debacle we had for about a week or two when the annual Bynum rumors flew around when people were saying Lakers were entertaining the idea of trading for Melo. This might just be another example of that.

Sure, Monta would be great but I don’t think he is what the Lakers need. At this point in Kobe’s career and when the team is getting older, the Lakers shouldn’t be playing around with experiments. The Lakers need more athleticism coming off the bench and a better, faster more athletic PG. giving up a core player is not the solution.

Don’t like this at all. Lamar is much more versatile, talented and flexible in terms of the role needed of him. That personality trait is very valuable. After his stellar season as 6th man the Lakers owe him. I know, let’s give the Warriors Luke for Monta!

why would u trade for a defensive liability whose undersized and turns the ball over when u have a versatile defender with size. Our frontcourt has to have some depth. This would just be a terrible trade for so many reasons that don’t even have to do with Monta

#TeamOdom

Oh, wait, we’re talking about basketball?

The Monta for Odom trade is actually a 2k11 trade that’s going down. Because only in a game will the Lakers FO do something as redundant as picking up Monta when we already have Kobe on this team.

Unless we get Ekpe Udoh and Dorell Wright as well.

so I say the more Chucker we have on this team the better we’ll be. Get rid of those post players and just create a team of Chuckers we’ll be the favorites in the Finals every year

But an inefficient gunner like Ellis isn’t the right way to go around it.

Odom for Ellis? Umm, yeah why not? It seems like an even trade to me.

Jerry West: “Hey Mitch, I’ll trade you Monta Ellis for Lamar Odom. It works in the ESPN Trade Machine! How about it?”
Hears dial tone
West: “Hello? Mitch? Anyone?”

Then Jerry leaked a recording of this conversation to reporters so Philly will be pressured into giving the Warriors Iguodala for Ellis, making the Bay Area a hell of a lot better of a place to be a basketball fan while not harming the Lakers’ organization.

Or at least the foreseeable future.

I like Odom’s length and overall versatility. Monta is practically Kobe 2.0. A high volume shooter that can be inefficient at times and turns the ball over quite a bit. We dont need two of those type of players on our team.

then it might be a good move. We know the Lakers sorely need an upgrade at PG, and that they need to find someone who can both stay in front of other quick guards as well as make timely shots. Ellis can definitely score, so if he’s between above average and good on D then I’m good with this.

Has anyone studied his D?

I’d like a trade for Stephan Curry, but I’d prefer an additional player in that trade for Odom. Odom is going to be what, 31? He was awesome this season, but the next? He hasn’t gotten rid of his inconsistency, that’s what the playoffs told me.

But not for Lamar

If it just basically Odom for Ellis, than HELL NO!

But for more than just Monta.

unless the return package is so ridiculous we can’t pass it up.

I think the first place we need to look for players who might join the Lakers next year are players (not named Lebron James) who were on the Cleveland teams that Brown coached.

but thats too good of a offer to pass up. Monta could be good for along time. Odom is probably heading towards severe decline in a year or two

It was this one. I’m all for keeping him, but like I said, if the return package is massive, go for it.

Let’s not make any trades unless its for this guy, I forget his name.

Monta: Do not want.

i live in the bay area and people are in love with monta. I personally think he is great, but like dex said, he does what kobe does at a lesser effiency level.

Odom is so versatile that other teams dont know what to do with him. I think he just took way too many jump shots this season. He needs to get to the rim

but not monta ellis.

We have to have two now?

The whole reason this team has been so successful the last few years is it’s combination of bigs: Odom, Gasol, Bynum. Kobe’s incredible but thats what takes this team over the top…

We need improvement at the point but not at the risk of losing our front court.

A trigger happy no defense non rebounding guard in exchange for our biggest advantage?

I would be more than willing to add Monta to the LA roster but not at that price, he’s not worth Odom.

no thanks.

I think Kobe could be an interesting option running the point in this scenario. Actually as a new roll, like Pippin did for the Bulls. Kobe could handle the ball with no problems, is an outstanding passer, either post-entry, set and off the dribble, can play better defense against any PG than our current PG’s, especially bigger ones like Rondo, Westbrook, Williams, and would likely get easier looks with Ellis in the game. Kobe’s numbers could be around 20-22 PPG with 8-9 assists, while having another scoring threat who can create his own shot, which I think is a huge weakness on this team. If Kobe bought in, he could limit the wear and tear playing as a facilitater for 3 quarters, but at crunch time he could turn into Magic or Isiah and take over. Could it work?

Will a trade like this improve the Laker defense (especially against quicker point guards)? I think the answer is no…end of story. Letting go of Odom or Gasol to improve the team at the point guard position (think defense & facillitator) is worth thinking about…if it’s the right player then it might make sense. Ellis is not the right player!

We do not trade one of the most versatile players in the league and also Sixth Man of the Year for a SG who plays just like Kobe Bryant (except not as good).

Yes, he would probably play PG and make the Laker better and more athletic at that position. But it would take shots away from Gasol and Bynum (I want them getting MORE touches, not less) and possibly be difficult for Kobe Bryant to have another player in the backcourt who demands the ball. Thats quite a change for him, to go from a pass first PG who takes 6 shots a game in Fisher to Monta Ellis, who will take 15+ a game and demand the ball constantly.

And we’ll give uh…. Joe Smith? yeah sure

team monta….though i rather save odom if it means getting d. howard. for he and bynum.

The rumor does give me hope that the Fisher era as a starter is soon to be done. GREAT. If you look at it from a different perspective It might not be a bad deal at all…

1st off we would get younger AND better at the guard position. I also think adding ellis will make life much much easier for Kobe. It puts another guy who can create his own shot and penetrate to break down the defense consistently. It would depend on Monta’s mindset. With the right outlook he could lead the league in assists playing for the Lakers. Yes, he is a volume shooter but how much is that a product of the system he played in and the role his team needed him to play? I would assume he’d e willing to sacrifice shots for a chance to get in the playoffs and win a title. I would wait and see what other offers come thru now that LO is potentially on the block. We could possibly get an overall better offerfilling more than one need if a team thinks we’re trading him straight up.

or we could make Kobe a PG: Neither of them are at their best as PGs. If we want a PG, we should just get a PG who can attack off the dribble while also running an offense. Before we were looking at more spot-up shooters, but we’re looking at diminishing returns trying to get a SG and convert him into a PG. Just need a younger PG with fast legs and a faster dribble with the ability to learn an offense and call plays. We can ask for them to be a high scorer, but we don’t NEED a scoring PG, just someone else who can penetrate off the pnr and someone else who can make a freaking entry pass. The aspect that we need to get rid of Odom to get better offensively is not looking at where the true problem is which is with the porous defense of our wings that put more pressure on our bigs than needed.