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Shaq Has Retired

One of the greatest Lakers of all time is calling it a career. The man spent eight of his 19 seasons with the Lakers. While in Los Angeles he was first team All-NBA six times, league MVP once and Finals MVP three times. His decision to leave Orlando for the Lakers in the summer of 1996 jump-started the revitalization of the franchise in the post-Magic Johnson era. He gave us more than a few headaches - what with his at times subpar conditioning, his cold war with Kobe Bryant, his regrettable movie and rap "careers" and the extravagant salary demands that ultimately led to his trade to Miami in 2004. But make no mistake, the enjoyment he brought Laker fans far, far outweighed his imperfections, annoying as they often were. There should be no doubt but that his jersey will hang in Staples Center sometime soon.

Consider this your Shaq retirement open thread.

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by bluexfalcon on Jun 1, 2011 2:59 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Cheater

Faith is remaining certain in the face of doubt. You’re not sure how it’s going to end, but you’re constantly of the belief that it will end the way you want it to and the way you always believed it to end, and that’s on top - Derek Fisher

by lakergirl on Jun 1, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks big fella!

Faith is remaining certain in the face of doubt. You’re not sure how it’s going to end, but you’re constantly of the belief that it will end the way you want it to and the way you always believed it to end, and that’s on top - Derek Fisher

by lakergirl on Jun 1, 2011 3:00 PM PDT reply actions  

3-Peat

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by bluexfalcon on Jun 1, 2011 3:00 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Great pic

That’s how I like to remember them together.

by BruinPain on Jun 1, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

This

"Confidence is a lot of this game or any game. If you don't think you can, you won't." - Jerry West
"If you're a competitive person, that stays with you. You don't stop. You always look over your shoulder" - Magic Johnson
"What I'm doing right now, I'm chasing perfection." - Kobe Bryant
"I gave it my body and mind, but I have kept my soul." - Phil Jackson

by Middle Earth Riverdweller on Jun 1, 2011 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

congratulations shaq!

Slava.
http://www.twitter.com/hobojarpen

by hobojarpen on Jun 1, 2011 3:01 PM PDT reply actions  

This is my favorite pose of his ever…so many good memories of that comeback brought to mind thanks to this single picture.

"Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors." -- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by TomasC on Jun 1, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he gets a statue before Kareem (which he probably won't), imagine the blow up.

Over/under is DEFCON 5.

"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"-Wayne Gretzky"-Michael Scott.

by SharksFanEst.1994 on Jun 1, 2011 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

DEFCON 33

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by bluexfalcon on Jun 1, 2011 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ah, the memories...

"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden
"Always turn a negative situation into a positive situation."- Michael Jordan
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by firstto100 on Jun 1, 2011 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL, it just didn't outweigh Shaq.
the enjoyment he brought Laker fans far, far outweighed his imperfections, annoying as they often were.

As long as Kobe’s is retired first.

There should be no doubt but that his jersey will hang in Staples Center sometime soon.

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by SoCalGal on Jun 1, 2011 3:06 PM PDT reply actions  

that might not be for another 4 years lol

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by bluexfalcon on Jun 1, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

he retired first, so his jersey will hang up there first

or is there some significance to having Kobe’s unveiled first?

or both at the same time?

POSSIBILITIES

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by bluexfalcon on Jun 1, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, the fact that Kobe will retire as a Laker.

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by SoCalGal on Jun 1, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

good point

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by bluexfalcon on Jun 1, 2011 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't even think Kobe himself would even get butthurt about Shaq getting his jersey retired first

Kobe isn’t retiring anytime soon.

Leaving Jimmer Fredette open for 3 is like leaving Brad Pitt alone with your wife. You know he's gonna hit it.

by RA37thriller on Jun 1, 2011 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

awesome

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by bluexfalcon on Jun 1, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lmfao a caller said

build shaq a statue to piss kareem off

"Losing feels worse than winning feels good." -Vin Scully

by Tkuang on Jun 1, 2011 3:08 PM PDT reply actions  

thanks for the memories shaq

he’ll always be remembered in my books for the 3 titles he brought to LA rather than that other ish.

by shaqfor3 on Jun 1, 2011 3:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Shaq played with Kobe Wade and Lebron

damn maaaaaan

"Losing feels worse than winning feels good." -Vin Scully

by Tkuang on Jun 1, 2011 3:16 PM PDT reply actions  

somebody should ask him who's the best.

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"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess." - Kobe Bryant

by bernel on Jun 1, 2011 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

i think all you need to do is see how far he got with each of them

3 rings with kobe, 1 ring with wade, 0 rings with lebron

"our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius

"When Jordan retired, you just thought a player like that wouldn’t come along again. But then Kobe almost immediately drew those comparisons, and that says it all. He established his own identity as one of the best players to ever play the game." -Hakeem

by ch3wy on Jun 1, 2011 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

as much as i love the ring argument and use it all the time in defense of the lakers/kobe

it doesn’t apply here. when shaq won with the lakers, he was the best player in the world, and literally unstoppable.

"It ain't Chinese algebra. If you get stops and you execute on offense, normally that team wins." - Tony Allen
"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker

by steffun4tw on Jun 1, 2011 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shaq was still pretty good with Wade

and still getting double teamed. Just hit injury stretches

These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson

The key to championships = SIGN LUTHER HEAD!!!!!!!!

by Marty Mart on Jun 2, 2011 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is a former Laker that plays with the Celtics allowed to have their jersey retired???

haha! Just kidding, he was The Man for many years in LA and brought us 3 rings that Kobe would not have done without him. I’ll salute his jersey when it goes up as I’m sure it will.

by KLu33 on Jun 1, 2011 3:18 PM PDT reply actions  

He also wouldn't have those 3 rings without Kobe.

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by SoCalGal on Jun 1, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh absolutely!

I’m just saying Shaq deserves his number to be retired, is all. Kobe will for sure be retired, probably the very next season after he retires.

by KLu33 on Jun 1, 2011 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

No need to justify yourself

You’re right. Shaq was the guy in L.A. for many years. Let’s be real people, of course he wouldn’t have the 3 rings without Kobe, but Shaq at the time was the most dominant in the league. It’s not a stab at Kobe to say Shaq was the number 1 option. It’s not Kobe’s fault he played with Shaq when he was in his prime.

Leaving Jimmer Fredette open for 3 is like leaving Brad Pitt alone with your wife. You know he's gonna hit it.

by RA37thriller on Jun 1, 2011 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kobe TO Shaq

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_ikaIDz-Ck&feature=related

Faith is remaining certain in the face of doubt. You’re not sure how it’s going to end, but you’re constantly of the belief that it will end the way you want it to and the way you always believed it to end, and that’s on top - Derek Fisher

by lakergirl on Jun 1, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wsn't trying to say it was all Shaq

They both needed each other and obviously Kobe has gone on to own this team in his own right! I was just making a comment that Shaq has done enough for this franchise to erase any doubt he should be a retired Laker on day.

by KLu33 on Jun 1, 2011 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sportsnation poll: favorite shaq nickname?

i voted THE DIESEL

"Losing feels worse than winning feels good." -Vin Scully

by Tkuang on Jun 1, 2011 3:19 PM PDT reply actions  

same

"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein

by LakerAce on Jun 1, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Big 401K

"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess." - Kobe Bryant

http://twitter.com/asianmon

by Lupe24 on Jun 1, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks to Shaq for his contributions to the Lakers!

Of course, this all begs an important question . . . What will weigh more: Shaq or his eventual statue?

"Please tell me some of these stories about Los Angeles being the basketball capital of the world." - Red Auerbach

"质量是我们的尊严。服务是我们的电梯。" ("Quality is our dignity. Service is our lift.")

"The" - shaqfor3

by Koshu on Jun 1, 2011 3:21 PM PDT reply actions  

hehe

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by bluexfalcon on Jun 1, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

Zing!

Faith is remaining certain in the face of doubt. You’re not sure how it’s going to end, but you’re constantly of the belief that it will end the way you want it to and the way you always believed it to end, and that’s on top - Derek Fisher

by lakergirl on Jun 1, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lakers will hang his jersey, no doubt.

Question is, will Miami?

"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein

by LakerAce on Jun 1, 2011 3:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Wade can't win without Shaq...

and possibly Lebron and Bosh

He got his name when his parents were in a restaurant. His father was very pleased with a steak he ordered and at the time his mother was pregnant. So his dad asked the waiter what's the name of the steak that he ordered and the waiter, obviously told him. It's called, Kobe.

by lakerdynasty on Jun 1, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

And Shaq can't win without Wade or Kobe....

And Lebron can’t win without Wade or Bosh.

When will people learn that it’s a two-way street?

"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein

by LakerAce on Jun 1, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shaq can't win with Lebron, Lebron can't win with or without Shaq.

Shaq can’t win with Nash or Amar’e. Shaq can’t win without KG, Pierce or Allen. KG, Pierce and Allen can win without Shaq, but not without House and Powe. Kobe could win without Shaq.

I was being sarcastic in my first reply. But I don’t know where my sarcasm font button is.

He got his name when his parents were in a restaurant. His father was very pleased with a steak he ordered and at the time his mother was pregnant. So his dad asked the waiter what's the name of the steak that he ordered and the waiter, obviously told him. It's called, Kobe.

by lakerdynasty on Jun 1, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here it is

"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein

by LakerAce on Jun 1, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes I see it. but where is it? and how do I use this coveted Sarcasm button?

He got his name when his parents were in a restaurant. His father was very pleased with a steak he ordered and at the time his mother was pregnant. So his dad asked the waiter what's the name of the steak that he ordered and the waiter, obviously told him. It's called, Kobe.

by lakerdynasty on Jun 1, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

surround your text with “@” no spaces

Example: @ Sarcasm Font @

but no spaces between the “@” and the text

"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein

by LakerAce on Jun 1, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

@thank you@

no, for real… thanks!

He got his name when his parents were in a restaurant. His father was very pleased with a steak he ordered and at the time his mother was pregnant. So his dad asked the waiter what's the name of the steak that he ordered and the waiter, obviously told him. It's called, Kobe.

by lakerdynasty on Jun 1, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

dammit! it didn't come out.

maybe it will down here

He got his name when his parents were in a restaurant. His father was very pleased with a steak he ordered and at the time his mother was pregnant. So his dad asked the waiter what's the name of the steak that he ordered and the waiter, obviously told him. It's called, Kobe.

by lakerdynasty on Jun 1, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

success!!!

He got his name when his parents were in a restaurant. His father was very pleased with a steak he ordered and at the time his mother was pregnant. So his dad asked the waiter what's the name of the steak that he ordered and the waiter, obviously told him. It's called, Kobe.

by lakerdynasty on Jun 1, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

noice

"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein

by LakerAce on Jun 1, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

He never won anything with Orlando.

Whereas he helped deliver Miami’s first title.

"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein

by LakerAce on Jun 1, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes. I know. I never said he did.

Notice I left Penny Hardaway out of the convo. lol!

He got his name when his parents were in a restaurant. His father was very pleased with a steak he ordered and at the time his mother was pregnant. So his dad asked the waiter what's the name of the steak that he ordered and the waiter, obviously told him. It's called, Kobe.

by lakerdynasty on Jun 1, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was responding to LAL32, lol.

"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein

by LakerAce on Jun 1, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

oops. there i go butting into conversations. my bad!

He got his name when his parents were in a restaurant. His father was very pleased with a steak he ordered and at the time his mother was pregnant. So his dad asked the waiter what's the name of the steak that he ordered and the waiter, obviously told him. It's called, Kobe.

by lakerdynasty on Jun 1, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

then they have to reinforce the rafters

::is this mic on::

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by bluexfalcon on Jun 1, 2011 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't thin "Blue Chips" was that bad of a movie...

with that said, is it too late to hire Shaq to be our next coach???

Thanks for the 3 rings Shaq. You’ll always be the Diesel to me.

He got his name when his parents were in a restaurant. His father was very pleased with a steak he ordered and at the time his mother was pregnant. So his dad asked the waiter what's the name of the steak that he ordered and the waiter, obviously told him. It's called, Kobe.

by lakerdynasty on Jun 1, 2011 3:26 PM PDT reply actions  

think*

He got his name when his parents were in a restaurant. His father was very pleased with a steak he ordered and at the time his mother was pregnant. So his dad asked the waiter what's the name of the steak that he ordered and the waiter, obviously told him. It's called, Kobe.

by lakerdynasty on Jun 1, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

A friend of mine worked on a Shaq film and he said that

even though the movie completely sucked. Shaq was the nicest guy. Just a big kid who had no pretensions of being better than anyone on the set. It was just another Shaq playground.

by BruinPain on Jun 1, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

i never had the pleasure of meeting shaq...

but i bet everything your friend said is true. He just seems like a fun dude to be around.

He got his name when his parents were in a restaurant. His father was very pleased with a steak he ordered and at the time his mother was pregnant. So his dad asked the waiter what's the name of the steak that he ordered and the waiter, obviously told him. It's called, Kobe.

by lakerdynasty on Jun 1, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want to thank Shaq for all the memories. I was teenager for the ’00-02 3-peat. My friends and i were excited beyond belief. Thank you Shaq. Kisses my dear. Kisses.

The measure of a woman is not her looks. It is her passion, her femininity, her character and her pride. My passion, my femininity, my character and my pride have been going strong for 28 years. The world is at my feet.

by California Girly Girl on Jun 1, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

shaq and phil are gone again

kobe still here

"Losing feels worse than winning feels good." -Vin Scully

by Tkuang on Jun 1, 2011 3:48 PM PDT reply actions  

this

He got his name when his parents were in a restaurant. His father was very pleased with a steak he ordered and at the time his mother was pregnant. So his dad asked the waiter what's the name of the steak that he ordered and the waiter, obviously told him. It's called, Kobe.

by lakerdynasty on Jun 1, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Laker for life.

"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein

by LakerAce on Jun 1, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Bernel Zone

"No one wins forever. Only thing that matters is how you face it when the cards don't come up your way. I'm not afraid." - Spider-Man (Amazing Spider-Man #475)

"If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world." - C.S. Lewis

"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess." - Kobe Bryant

by bernel on Jun 1, 2011 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shaq > Mike Brown for new head coach of the Lakers!!

Or maybe Brown could hire him as one of the assistant coaches and he could work with Bynum on making him a Shaq-lite player.

Think about it, they could go around eating cheesburgers together and not work out so Bynum could gain some more bulk, then become the unstoppable force Shaq was for the first 10 years of his career.

He got his name when his parents were in a restaurant. His father was very pleased with a steak he ordered and at the time his mother was pregnant. So his dad asked the waiter what's the name of the steak that he ordered and the waiter, obviously told him. It's called, Kobe.

by lakerdynasty on Jun 1, 2011 3:48 PM PDT reply actions  

LOL @ at the thought of Kobe following Shaq's orders.

"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein

by LakerAce on Jun 1, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

actually i didn't even think about that.

the very thought makes me crack up. lol!

i could just imagine the fights on the side line.

Shaq: “Kobe, hows my ass taste?”
Kobe: “taste like 5 rings biotch!”
Shaq: “hit the showers lil bro!”
Kobe: “i’d call you something else but i don’t want to get fined another 100 mil.”

He got his name when his parents were in a restaurant. His father was very pleased with a steak he ordered and at the time his mother was pregnant. So his dad asked the waiter what's the name of the steak that he ordered and the waiter, obviously told him. It's called, Kobe.

by lakerdynasty on Jun 1, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

lmao

"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein

by LakerAce on Jun 1, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

"Confidence is a lot of this game or any game. If you don't think you can, you won't." - Jerry West
"If you're a competitive person, that stays with you. You don't stop. You always look over your shoulder" - Magic Johnson
"What I'm doing right now, I'm chasing perfection." - Kobe Bryant
"I gave it my body and mind, but I have kept my soul." - Phil Jackson

by Middle Earth Riverdweller on Jun 1, 2011 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't care much for Shaq's movies but I definitely thought

he was a talented rapper who had a nice flow.

I don’t think his rap career was “regrettable” at all, Kobe on the other hand…

by Archon on Jun 1, 2011 4:12 PM PDT reply actions  

I liked "Steel" as a kid

The Bernel Zone

"No one wins forever. Only thing that matters is how you face it when the cards don't come up your way. I'm not afraid." - Spider-Man (Amazing Spider-Man #475)

"If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world." - C.S. Lewis

"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess." - Kobe Bryant

by bernel on Jun 1, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

<3

The dictionary is the only place where success comes before work. ~ a fortune cookie.

by Cup Noodles on Jun 1, 2011 4:16 PM PDT reply actions  

I blame Shaq 100% for the break-up, thus costing us several missed titles.

While Kobe was Doin Work to get ready for the 4 bagger… Shaq got lazy (complascent), was lazy about getting needed surgery/treatment… came to camp all non-chalant… much to the chagrin of Kobe, the Lakers and even Chicky-Baby. Evidently, The Big Dufus had other priorities. At that time, the Lakers were STILL Shaq’s team. Batman didn’t want to work as hard as Robin. For that reason, his jersey goes up either after Kobe’s or second to Kobe’s.

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by Bruins78 on Jun 1, 2011 4:19 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Knowing Kobe, he wont retire for another 10 years, and I do hope Shaq's will be up by then

As much as I love Kobe, watching Shaq roll and dominate in his time was the most fun I have ever had as a Laker fan (too young for Showtime).

Since the NBA is a form of entertainment, I guess this is the highest praise I can give to Shaq: he was the most fun player to watch in the league for an 8-9 year period, and probably the most dominant, though not the best, player of all time.

Shaq was also a nice and funny guy, two things which I am not necessarily seeing in this new NBA of primadonnas and egomaniacal athletic freaks.

by NewCavsfan on Jun 1, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

"he's won't retire for another 10 years."

it would be nice if it’s true

The Bernel Zone

"No one wins forever. Only thing that matters is how you face it when the cards don't come up your way. I'm not afraid." - Spider-Man (Amazing Spider-Man #475)

"If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world." - C.S. Lewis

"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess." - Kobe Bryant

by bernel on Jun 1, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kobe retires in 4 years maximum

These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson

The key to championships = SIGN LUTHER HEAD!!!!!!!!

by Marty Mart on Jun 2, 2011 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

true

but the whole trade helped initiate the rebuilding process much quicker and got us back to contention.

by shaqfor3 on Jun 1, 2011 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shaq gets all of the blame for the break-up?

 First, Kobe dimes out Shaq with the Colorado police which isn’t exactly teambuilding, then he basically sabotaged the 04 finals with his dreadful and selfish performance against Detroit. Then he tells the team, “it’s either Shaq or me” basically forcing ownerships hand. Kobe’s actions and the Lakers response has mostly been vindicated with two more rings but Kobe was no tragic figure in that play.

He has to accept some responsibility for the break-up.

by Archon on Jun 1, 2011 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kobe's "diming out" Shaq had nothing to do with their issues. Those had been going on for several years.

And as Dr. Buss stated, he, and he alone, made the decision to trade Shaq, who was wholly responsible for his own assholish actions (“PAY ME, MOTHERFUCKER!”). Kobe was not to blame for Shaq being Shaq.

Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't lose. - Bill Gates
Yes, I'm smug, withholding, and judgmental, but at least I'm better than you. - Anonymous
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by SoCalGal on Jun 1, 2011 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

uh, scg already got this...

didn’t notice that the auto-refresh kicked in. haha

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"No one wins forever. Only thing that matters is how you face it when the cards don't come up your way. I'm not afraid." - Spider-Man (Amazing Spider-Man #475)

"If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world." - C.S. Lewis

"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess." - Kobe Bryant

by bernel on Jun 1, 2011 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

actually if we think about it logically...

Shaq was asking for an outrageous salary, thus, regardless of kobe’s “it’s either shaq or me”, the management had to trade shaq…

The Bernel Zone

"No one wins forever. Only thing that matters is how you face it when the cards don't come up your way. I'm not afraid." - Spider-Man (Amazing Spider-Man #475)

"If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world." - C.S. Lewis

"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess." - Kobe Bryant

by bernel on Jun 1, 2011 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kobe is partial blame

but much of it started prior to Kobe saying anything publicly

These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson

The key to championships = SIGN LUTHER HEAD!!!!!!!!

by Marty Mart on Jun 2, 2011 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey,

don’t hate on his raps

What's that about?

by Brian. on Jun 1, 2011 4:25 PM PDT reply actions  

appreciate tha titles but a statue? no

Jersey retired maybe. All tha nonsense he said and did after he left tha Lakers soured me on shaq. Disrespecting tha owner and players? Too much.

If ya team aint the Lakers then your team SUCKS!

by EmmCeee on Jun 1, 2011 4:37 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

how about a plaque?

Mo' Everything
"Please remember: it's not my fault your team sucks." - DexterFishmore
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by bluexfalcon on Jun 1, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL a plaque shall do

"If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bullsh*t."

"A Freudian slip is when you say one thing but mean your mother."

"He who laughs last thinks slowest."

by PoPs_737 on Jun 1, 2011 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

a plaque n thank you is enough lol

If ya team aint the Lakers then your team SUCKS!

by EmmCeee on Jun 1, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

We knew it was coming but its still weird.

Its not like he was doing anything anymore but no more Shaq…..weird.

by AV. on Jun 1, 2011 4:49 PM PDT reply actions  

LOL!!!

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"Please remember: it's not my fault your team sucks." - DexterFishmore
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by bluexfalcon on Jun 1, 2011 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

jerk move. but funny. haha

The Bernel Zone

"No one wins forever. Only thing that matters is how you face it when the cards don't come up your way. I'm not afraid." - Spider-Man (Amazing Spider-Man #475)

"If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world." - C.S. Lewis

"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess." - Kobe Bryant

by bernel on Jun 1, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

shaq fu

It's not the fact of the championship, it's the principle that's being shown.
Remember the saying "nothing that matters ever comes easy; nothing that comes easy ever really matters"? If Miami wins, they basically are setting the principle that things that matter to you CAN come easy and "Screw being a team, you only need 3 guys to carry the load to win you a title so anyone else can just sit back and we’re gonna win ‘not 5, not 6, not 7’ titles easy"
-firstto100

by WaveOcean on Jun 1, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

hahahha that guy got thrown away

"Losing feels worse than winning feels good." -Vin Scully

by Tkuang on Jun 1, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

just reading about this makes me hungry

"Thoughts are aplenty. Most of 'em not good." - Derek Fisher

by _logan_ on Jun 1, 2011 5:18 PM PDT reply actions  

We got to enjoy him for a little while in Ohio.

I just wish I were old enough to remember a little more of him in his prime. I know many of you guys dislike him now, but I’m glad to see that you still appreciate what he did for your team. It’s a shame that he had to leave on bad terms and then worsen the problem later with his freestyle and all that.

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Jun 1, 2011 5:27 PM PDT reply actions  

We certainly did.

And I enjoyed every minute of it.

It's not the fact of the championship, it's the principle that's being shown.
Remember the saying "nothing that matters ever comes easy; nothing that comes easy ever really matters"? If Miami wins, they basically are setting the principle that things that matter to you CAN come easy and "Screw being a team, you only need 3 guys to carry the load to win you a title so anyone else can just sit back and we’re gonna win ‘not 5, not 6, not 7’ titles easy"
-firstto100

by WaveOcean on Jun 1, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

when they were still feuding... (or did the feud really end at all?)

The Bernel Zone

"No one wins forever. Only thing that matters is how you face it when the cards don't come up your way. I'm not afraid." - Spider-Man (Amazing Spider-Man #475)

"If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world." - C.S. Lewis

"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess." - Kobe Bryant

by bernel on Jun 1, 2011 5:33 PM PDT reply actions  

exactly! all that lovey dovey with each other, when they were co-mvp's, in the all-star gm...

i think it was all fake. i still think that shaq was, and still is jealous of kobe. even when hey were seen together after the all-star gm, even kobe seemed to be a little hesitant around shaq. shaq never got over the fact that dr. buss ran his ass out of town (not kobe), and the lakers continued to win back to back championships…without the deisel.

by Mark Jaramillo on Jun 2, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Shaq was great for the game.

He will be missed.

"If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bullsh*t."

"A Freudian slip is when you say one thing but mean your mother."

"He who laughs last thinks slowest."

by PoPs_737 on Jun 1, 2011 5:38 PM PDT reply actions  

I'll miss you big man

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBXvNGdjM8E

It's not the fact of the championship, it's the principle that's being shown.
Remember the saying "nothing that matters ever comes easy; nothing that comes easy ever really matters"? If Miami wins, they basically are setting the principle that things that matter to you CAN come easy and "Screw being a team, you only need 3 guys to carry the load to win you a title so anyone else can just sit back and we’re gonna win ‘not 5, not 6, not 7’ titles easy"
-firstto100

by WaveOcean on Jun 1, 2011 5:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Thanks for everything, Shaq. ^^

"l3oh, SSR Inssromniac" (courtesy of jXn)
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by l3oh on Jun 1, 2011 6:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Am I the only one who feels differently about this...
But make no mistake, the enjoyment he brought Laker fans far, far outweighed his imperfections, annoying as they often were.

Congrats on a great career! I don’t want to rain on the Shaq love parade. It was fun watching the guy play and he helped bring our team some banners. Can you imagine how he would have played if he conditioned and disciplined himself more? That’s scary.

Have fun busting up meth labs in Miami big fella!

"Winning takes talent; to repeat takes character." - John Wooden

by Joshua S on Jun 1, 2011 6:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Most players could have done better

Shaq, Garnett, Vince Carter, TMac, Allen Iverson, Steve Francis, Stephon Marbury.

Basically a lot of the late 90s and early 200s stars, while all really great players (except for Francis, who was just good, could have been way better.

For Marbury, Francis, and AI, it was attitude issues. For TMac and Carter, as well as Shaq, it was about conditioning and motivation. Garnett had no real outright problems, but many people think he could have dont more.

by NewCavsfan on Jun 1, 2011 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

The difference is that we didn't care about those other guys 'cuz they didn't play for us.

Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't lose. - Bill Gates
Yes, I'm smug, withholding, and judgmental, but at least I'm better than you. - Anonymous
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by SoCalGal on Jun 2, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

No one said they dislike him for that reason.

Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't lose. - Bill Gates
Yes, I'm smug, withholding, and judgmental, but at least I'm better than you. - Anonymous
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by SoCalGal on Jun 2, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's all you've been preaching on these Shaq posts!

That Shaq had a shitty work ethic and that Kobe was the main reason for the 3 peat.

Leaving Jimmer Fredette open for 3 is like leaving Brad Pitt alone with your wife. You know he's gonna hit it.

by RA37thriller on Jun 2, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL, bullshit.

I said Shaq was not responsible for the 3-peat alone. And I didn’t say I didn’t like him because of his shitty work ethic.

Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't lose. - Bill Gates
Yes, I'm smug, withholding, and judgmental, but at least I'm better than you. - Anonymous
Tweetness: @SoCalGal64

by SoCalGal on Jun 2, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

No one on here has said he was the sole reason for the 3-peat. Everyone on here realizes they both needed each other.

For instance, every time someone would say something like “Without Shaq, we wouldn’t have those 3 titles”, you immediately jump in saying “Well Shaq wasn’t the only reason!” Kobe wasn’t no sidekick! Kobe Kobe Kobe. Every time someone has shown praise for Shaq you’ve gotten all defensive and just started protecting Kobe. I’ll say it again just for clarification; Shaq needed Kobe. Kobe needed Shaq.

Leaving Jimmer Fredette open for 3 is like leaving Brad Pitt alone with your wife. You know he's gonna hit it.

by RA37thriller on Jun 2, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL, you're pissed about something 'cuz you hate Kobe and most of us don't.

That’s your prerogative. But you need to chill.

Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't lose. - Bill Gates
Yes, I'm smug, withholding, and judgmental, but at least I'm better than you. - Anonymous
Tweetness: @SoCalGal64

by SoCalGal on Jun 2, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

When have I ever said I hated Kobe?

Obviously I don’t love him and much as most of the people on here but I’m fine with that. I’m a Laker fan first, Kobe fan second.

Leaving Jimmer Fredette open for 3 is like leaving Brad Pitt alone with your wife. You know he's gonna hit it.

by RA37thriller on Jun 2, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

seems you mistake

sticking up for a Laker in Kobe as being a Kobe fan more than a Laker fan.

These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson

The key to championships = SIGN LUTHER HEAD!!!!!!!!

by Marty Mart on Jun 2, 2011 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

So what is the point of knit picking at Shaq's career then?

Can someone please answer me that? I have yet to get an answer.

Leaving Jimmer Fredette open for 3 is like leaving Brad Pitt alone with your wife. You know he's gonna hit it.

by RA37thriller on Jun 3, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because we nitpick

at EVERYONE’S career.

These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson

The key to championships = SIGN LUTHER HEAD!!!!!!!!

by Marty Mart on Jun 3, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Explain why you bash on Kobe every chance you get.

Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't lose. - Bill Gates
Yes, I'm smug, withholding, and judgmental, but at least I'm better than you. - Anonymous
Tweetness: @SoCalGal64

by SoCalGal on Jun 3, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha when have I "bashed Kobe"?

Leaving Jimmer Fredette open for 3 is like leaving Brad Pitt alone with your wife. You know he's gonna hit it.

by RA37thriller on Jun 3, 2011 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Allen Iverson

is one of the all time scoring leaders in NBA history. He was a victim of being short, not anything to do with his attitude. He was a great player, why do people act like he was washed up for most of his career

Garnett could have done more!!!!! are u serious?!?!?!

These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson

The key to championships = SIGN LUTHER HEAD!!!!!!!!

by Marty Mart on Jun 2, 2011 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nothing to do with his attitude?

Leaving Jimmer Fredette open for 3 is like leaving Brad Pitt alone with your wife. You know he's gonna hit it.

by RA37thriller on Jun 3, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

The perception of Iverson

has everything to do with his attitude. The fact that Iverson got even to where he was as a scorer also had everything to do with his attitude.

These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson

The key to championships = SIGN LUTHER HEAD!!!!!!!!

by Marty Mart on Jun 3, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

damn at all the talent shaq has played with

Penny, Kobe, Wade, Nash, LeBron…

and if you want to include the decrepit guys: Malone, Payton, Grant Hill, Mourning, KG, Allen

"Shaq finished his career 1-22 from 3-point range, which would have made him one of the better shooters on this year’s Laker playoff squad." - D4P

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by shaqfor3 on Jun 1, 2011 7:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Thanks, Shaq. Now on to the broadcast table..

Always Lurking. Always. Yes.

Tim Duncan wins championships. Vince Carters fills the arenas.
Kobe Bryant does both. -- from some Yahoo! column, I think it was Steve Kerr.

The ideal way to win a championship is step by step.
-Phil Jackson

by imposibol on Jun 1, 2011 8:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Yup, I think he will be very entertaining on that job.

Thanks Shaq, you will be missed.

"Confidence is a lot of this game or any game. If you don't think you can, you won't." - Jerry West
"If you're a competitive person, that stays with you. You don't stop. You always look over your shoulder" - Magic Johnson
"What I'm doing right now, I'm chasing perfection." - Kobe Bryant
"I gave it my body and mind, but I have kept my soul." - Phil Jackson

by Middle Earth Riverdweller on Jun 1, 2011 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

no one will be able to understand what he says...

he speaks at decibels to low for the human ear to catch. Kind of like the opposite of a doggy whistle.

He got his name when his parents were in a restaurant. His father was very pleased with a steak he ordered and at the time his mother was pregnant. So his dad asked the waiter what's the name of the steak that he ordered and the waiter, obviously told him. It's called, Kobe.

by lakerdynasty on Jun 2, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

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