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Lakers Mavericks Game 3 Preview: Bang Or Whimper?

Tonight, the Los Angeles Lakers face the Dallas Mavericks in Game 3 of the Western Conference Semifinals with the hopes of keeping their season on life support.  The team is certainly not dead, but their chances to advance to the next round are slim, to say nothing of any progression towards a championship that would be the only measure of true success.  The Lakers are in this troublesome position because of a combination of strong play from a tough opponent, and the Lakers picking a bad time to put together some of their worst basketball of the season.  It is not their poor play, however, that is most troubling in observing what has, so far at least, been a stunning collapse of the defending champs.  Of far greater concern has been the team's apparent mental make up. 

The Lakers played the 2nd half of Game 2 as if resigned to their fate.  There was little urgency, no sense that the Lakers understood the seriousness of the predicament they were in.  What little desperation existed ended up doing more harm than good, in the form of missed three pointers, and forced Lamar Odom drives.  By the time J.J. Barea finally put the Lakers in the grave, the defensive execution smacked of laziness.  It's possible the Lakers collectively decided it just wasn't their night, and their energy would be best saved for the Everest of a mountain they will now have to climb.  But the more likely interpretation is that, in that moment, the Lakers did not have any answers for the questions Dallas was forcing upon them.  We've seen the Lakers execute poorly, take games off, and go through long stretches of poor play, but I don't know that I've ever seen this current incarnation of the purple and gold look so lost.

I have but one request of the Lakers tonight, and for the remainder of this series.  It is not "Please win", though I very much hope for it to be the case.  The Lakers may not be dead just yet, but the Mavericks are a formidable enough opponent that demanding or expecting L.A. to win four games in five chances is a tough ask, even if the Lakers do begin to solve the myriad of problems that have left them in this position.  They've given Dallas to much of a head start for that.  Instead, the one request I have, the one thing I will be looking for, is this:

Please, if tonight is going to be the beginning of the end of this illustrious, if short-lived, reign over the NBA, please go out with a bang, and not a whimper.

Star-divide

It's actually rather stunning, if you think about it, how this series can be broken down to those three simple words:

Bang or whimper.

It certainly works when describing the Laker big men, specifically Pau Gasol.  Pau has borne the brunt of our wrath, and only a portion of that wrath is deserved.  He's tied for the team lead in rebounding, and second only to Derek Fisher in assists.  We all know 14 points per game isn't enough for him, but his level of engagement and performance is much improved over round one.  There is but one unforgiveable sin Pau Gasol is committing in this series, the failure to punish Dirk Nowitzki on the low block.  Dirk is a tremendous player.  Nearly unstoppable on offense, the only way you can marginalize the Big German in any way is to take him to school defensively.  But Pau has not attacked Dirk with anywhere near the proper level of aggression.  I'm glad Pau "makes the right play" all the time, glad that he passes the ball out when the double team comes.  Of all the big men in the league, he is by far the best fit for this team and this offense because of his willingness and ability to do those things.  But Pau also needs to know that Nowitzki must be made to be Dallas' weak link on defense.  He needs to catch the ball and attack instantly, before the double team comes, instead of his go-to move of surveying the defense for as many as five seconds before deciding his next move.  He needs to take the ball to the hoop as strong as he possibly can and, even if he's not successful, he needs to stop looking to the refs to bail him out.  He, along with Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom, need to bang the Mavericks into the ground, and not whimper when they receive a little contact.

BANG! or whimper

The Lakers have to, have to, HAVE TO make some outside shots.  They need to punish Dallas for daring them to shoot.  They need the space to operate in the low post so that the Maverick double teams aren't there quite so instantaneously, and so that the Lakers can use their natural size to dominate the offensive glass.  And they also need to make some outside shots because, as it turns out, those shots are kinda valuable.  Threes are the 3rd most productive shot in this game, behind free throws and dunks/open lay ups.  That whole being able to get a whole extra point from a possession than would normally be possible thing is kind of a big deal.  The Lakers are not a strong three point shooting team.  They haven't been for most of the season.  But they also are not a terrible three point shooting team, and are due for some regression to the mean after one bad outing and another apocalyptic one.  I have no idea if Mike Breen is calling this game or not, but if the Lakers can't get some BANG! in their game tonight, they don't stand much of a chance

Bang or whimper.

Some of you may think my request to be foolish.  Surely, the Los Angeles Lakers know that their season teeters on the brink tonight.  Surely, they know that anything less than desperation will see them make a quick and inauspicious exit from these playoff proceedings.  Surely, a team led by Kobe Bryant, one of the fiercest competitors in the history of the game, will make sure that, if the Lakers are to make their end, they will make that end attempting to be the legends they have built themselves up to be.

As strange as it is to conceive, history says it isn't so.  No team which has included Kobe Bryant as a member has ever gone out with a bang, unless it is in victory.  It's stunning how badly Bryant's teams have performed in the final moments of seasons in which a banner was not earned.  Check out the list:

  • 1997:  Defeated in the second round in 5 games by the Utah Jazz, including Kobe's infamous last shot airballs
  • 1998: Same team, even worse result.  The Jazz swept the Lakers in the second round
  • 1999: Swept in the second round this time by the San Antonio Spurs
  • 2000-2002: Rings
  • 2003: Defeated in the second round in 6 games by the Spurs.  Game 6 was a 28 point beatdown
  • 2004: Defeated in the NBA Finals in 5 games by the Detroit Pistons.  Heavily favored coming in, the Lakers lost 3 of the four games by double digits, and the one game they won required a four point play by Bryant to send the game into overtime.  This was basically the first five game sweep in history (UPDATE: Apparently I created this out of the figment of my imagination.  It was simply a deep three pointer.)
  • 2005: Missed playoffs.  For what it's worth, the Lakers also ended the season 2-19 down the stretch
  • 2006: Defeated in the first round in 7 games by the Phoenix Suns.  Although their overall performance in the series was quite admirable, the Lakers lost a 3-1 series lead, and Game 7 was the infamous "Kobe gave up" game.  Whether you believe in that narrative or not, that game, in which the Lakers lost by 29, was most certainly a whimper
  • 2007: The Suns dispatched the Lakers with ease in the first round, winning in 5 games
  • 2008: Defeated by the Boston Celtics in the NBA Finals in 6 games, with the final game a 39 point annnihilation
  • 2009-2010: More rings

And that's the list.  It really is absolutely incredible.  No Laker team that has included Kobe Bryant has ended the season with a strong, fight to the last man effort, unless that season has ended with a championship.  In all the other seasons, his teams have bowed out with tails between their legs.  To be fair, Kobe's part in these failures has not always been a central role.  Prior to 1999, Kobe wasn't even the 2nd option on his team, so blaming him for those quick exits is unfair.  In 2006, 2007, and even 2008 if we're honest, his teams were overmatched, and the result, if not necessarily the method by which it occurred, shouldn't be considered all that surprising.

Still, for a man who's competitiveness may not have been matched in the history of this game, it is shocking how often his teams have gone out with a whimper.  There are a few ways you can read into this.  The first is to consider that perhaps, when faced with situations in which his team is overmatched, Kobe tries to do way too much and ends up killing his team.  The second, which may well go hand in hand with and help to explain the first, is that his teammates wilt under the pressure of his burning desire to win in pressure situations.  These are both potentially valid interpretations.  However, it is the final interpretation I am interested in, both because I am, after all, a Lakers fan, and because that final interpretation is the one I hope will have the most relevance to this particular series.  It is this: Any time Kobe Bryant is part of a team that is not woefully overmatched, and does not play well below their potential, that team never loses.

My only request is that the Lakers give everything they have, and go out with a bang, instead of a whimper.  Because history has shown that if they do go out with a bang, they need not go out at all.

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Why does this read like an obituary

My only request is that the Lakers give everything they have, and go out with a bang, instead of a whimper. Because history has shown that if they do go out with a bang, they need not go out at all.

Faith is remaining certain in the face of doubt. You’re not sure how it’s going to end, but you’re constantly of the belief that it will end the way you want it to and the way you always believed it to end, and that’s on top - Derek Fisher

by lakergirl on May 6, 2011 1:12 PM PDT reply actions  

I hope they play to their potential as well

I think there’s something else afoot though, something that is not-as-it-should-be. I don’t know WHAT that IS, but it looks like the problems go deeper than just fatigue.

I think it’s a team issue, as in, maybe the different parts of the team aren’t getting along.

Maybe I’m reading too much into Drew’s statements, Enquirer-esque releases by funky websites of questionable renown. That being said, maybe there is something simmering out-of-view.

Let’s see what happens tonight, and who shows up. I’m really going to check the player interactions. I hope I’m wrong…

For me its the consistent inconsistency that concerns me - PAGFL
It's always AMMO Time, in spirit- DexterFishmore
lebron should just lock himself away and not talk for the rest of forever-LA32

by 99bc99 on May 6, 2011 1:18 PM PDT reply actions  

if you are right,

and I can see how you might be, doesn’t this just reek of junior high? I mean, really, this is what all these guys have worked so freaking hard for, these are the NBA finals. How can they be so, for lack of better phrasing (and sorry to any of the ladies that I might offend) but damn, stop acting like a bunch of catty woman. Focus and play ball.

I could really be ok with not winning a series or whatever if I knew that our team was all coming together and gave their all, but if they don’t and it’s apparent, well, that’s when I have a hard time and I can’t reason through or at least try to validate the losses, you know?

by BigSkyCat on May 6, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

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by bluexfalcon on May 6, 2011 1:20 PM PDT reply actions  

LOL

He’s used to wearing a suit.

"If somebody had their life on the line, and they’ve got their options on who they want to save their life — tell me who you’re going to pick?" Bryant asked. "You’re going to look at the stats first?"

by PoPs_737 on May 6, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

face palm

"Maybe I’m old school," Nash said, "but I signed a contract to play here and I want to honor it. I feel like I owe it to my teammates and the city and everybody to keep battling until they tell me it’s time to go." STEVE (God of Basketball) NASH

by 2NASHTY on May 6, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

All I've got for you is this:

“…”

GO LAKERS.

"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."

"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."

-Kobe Bryant

Chris Mortensen: "You know it's the 'Show-Me' State right Sam?"

"Pshh, 'Show Me.' (smirking) Yeah, I've heard that."

-Sam Bradford

by TrojanRam on May 6, 2011 1:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Was it Vanessa?

It just said a teammates wife? Who else is married on this team?

"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."

"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."

-Kobe Bryant

Chris Mortensen: "You know it's the 'Show-Me' State right Sam?"

"Pshh, 'Show Me.' (smirking) Yeah, I've heard that."

-Sam Bradford

by TrojanRam on May 6, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

You.can't.be.serious.

At a time like this?! Damn. All I can say is damn. They seriously need to put this shit on the backburner and take care of business with Dallas first. They can fight all they want once they come back home 2-2.

"If you’re afraid to fail, then you’re probably going to fail. You know what I mean? Fuck it." -- Kobe "Black Mamba" Bryant

by jXn on May 6, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."

"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."

-Kobe Bryant

Chris Mortensen: "You know it's the 'Show-Me' State right Sam?"

"Pshh, 'Show Me.' (smirking) Yeah, I've heard that."

-Sam Bradford

by TrojanRam on May 6, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hello nice to meet ya.

Haven’t seen ya posting before.

"If you’re afraid to fail, then you’re probably going to fail. You know what I mean? Fuck it." -- Kobe "Black Mamba" Bryant

by jXn on May 6, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice to meet you too.

I have posted before, but I’m usually absent from game threads due to the massive nerve-wrecked-irrational state I am in. And that’s when they’re winning.

That said, I’m pretty confident we’ll be pretty happy at around 9PM. Even with the present state of affairs.

"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."

"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."

-Kobe Bryant

Chris Mortensen: "You know it's the 'Show-Me' State right Sam?"

"Pshh, 'Show Me.' (smirking) Yeah, I've heard that."

-Sam Bradford

by TrojanRam on May 6, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can understand.

The nerves will be sky high tonight. The only thing I desire is to see the true caliber of this team.

"If you’re afraid to fail, then you’re probably going to fail. You know what I mean? Fuck it." -- Kobe "Black Mamba" Bryant

by jXn on May 6, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

You bet.

They couldn’t have picked a worse time to play bad. I need morale boosts during Finals. But we know how good this team CAN play. The mystery is whether or not they’ll bring it. I sure hope this whole Pau-Kobe drama is a bunch of nothing.

Considering that they’re professionals, I would be shocked if they sacrifice their chance at immortality because of some high-school style personal problems.

Can’t wait. 3 and a half hours of agonizing uncertainty to go.

"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."

"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."

-Kobe Bryant

Chris Mortensen: "You know it's the 'Show-Me' State right Sam?"

"Pshh, 'Show Me.' (smirking) Yeah, I've heard that."

-Sam Bradford

by TrojanRam on May 6, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

The thing that I've been mulling over for days on end now

is how can players of such high pedigree simply not display even half of their faculties? I mean for me, the bench has been a major throat-clog. It’s as if the moment a player comes over to the Lakers, they become docile. I’ve always heard about the gritty, get-in-yo-face nature of Matt Barnes, and it was on full display when the Lakers visited Orlando last season. That’s what I envisioned when I heard he was coming over, finally we would get that nasty attitude off the bench, that tenacity we lacked. Yet I haven’t seen anything of such from him, other than that scuffle against Jason Terry. Same applies to Blake; the way he tortured us in Portland was infuriating and now that he’s here, it’s like “What happened?” So it’s pretty agonizing to see how two gritty players have failed to even show their personalities on the court.

I really hope this woman-drama surrounding Pau is fictitious. Though he’s always been sensitive and if it’s true, then I can see where it’s overshadowing him. Pau is completely not the player we’ve known him for. I mean he held his own against Garnett dammit, so he should be scorching Dirk in the post.

I just want to see the true colors of this team, not this Pauthetic figment of the soft label that critics speak of. I want to see the talented and deep Lakers play with nothing but a domineering mentality to break the Mavs in for good and re-establish this intimidation that has them shook.

"If you’re afraid to fail, then you’re probably going to fail. You know what I mean? Fuck it." -- Kobe "Black Mamba" Bryant

by jXn on May 6, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think with Barnes it's a case of being around other alpha dogs.

Kobe and Ron are arguably the nastiest, fiercest players alive. But Barnes was arguably the nastiest player on the Magic last year, which led him to embrace that role on that team because they need it from him or they’re not getting it. On this team, he’s behind on that depth chart. I hope he can figure it out because he seems the likeliest to change the bench play (besides Lamar) if we’re going to get past Dallas and make a run.

As for Blake, this offense just isn’t for him. I thought he might be an odd fit considering that he ran a lot of screen and roll in Portland, but now he’s with a team that doesn’t rely on that. I guess my hope was that his shooting would save him in regards to finding a niche on the Lakers, but when that’s gone, well, you know the rest.

As for Pau, and Kobe for that matter, it’s as simple as realizing and getting angry at the fact that they are being guarded by Dirk Nowitzki and Jason Kidd respectively. We need to run iso for both of these guys ALL DAY and live with the consequences. If they help, Bynum has to be there to clean up and make them pay. But these are mismatches in the truest sense, and if Phil, Kobe, and Pau can’t figure this out then this team just isn’t as smart as we thought.

Moment of truth tonight. I have a feeling we’ll be smiling and tonight will balloon into 3 more wins in this series. GO LAKERS.

"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."

"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."

-Kobe Bryant

Chris Mortensen: "You know it's the 'Show-Me' State right Sam?"

"Pshh, 'Show Me.' (smirking) Yeah, I've heard that."

-Sam Bradford

by TrojanRam on May 6, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I believe in Phil

He and Kobe are the two men I have believed in for as long as I can remember. Phil made it clear that they’ll be back Tuesday at Staples and Kobe warned analysts to be careful how they predict the doom for this team, because they might be choking on their words before they know it. As difficult as it is seeing this scenario, how the Lakers went about it to create this hole for themselves is something I predicted. This is what makes this team. For the last two runs, they battled through injury and exorcised the Celtic demons. Yet there was always that question “If not for hca, would this team have won it all?” I feel that this is the only thing Lakers felt the need to prove. If they can claw to victory after this daunting challenge, then they will fulfill one part of their agenda. A warrior can only fight so many battles before he longs for the ultimate hurdle to overcome; for our team, this is that very impediment that they must overcome.

Even if we do win, it’s not something to smile about, not until we can take both and send a message to these Mavs. Solely one win on the road would only be delaying the axe looming over this team’s head.

"If you’re afraid to fail, then you’re probably going to fail. You know what I mean? Fuck it." -- Kobe "Black Mamba" Bryant

by jXn on May 6, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree completely.

It takes more than one. Or maybe it doesn’t? If we win this game, I actually think the pressure is immediately back on Dallas. They’re playing free right now, but a loss will remind them where they are and that they can lose to this team when the Lakers play their game.

All I’m saying is, today is the catalyst. The choke rumors will start once they remember that the Lakers are the more talented team. Just two hours away.

"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."

"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."

-Kobe Bryant

Chris Mortensen: "You know it's the 'Show-Me' State right Sam?"

"Pshh, 'Show Me.' (smirking) Yeah, I've heard that."

-Sam Bradford

by TrojanRam on May 6, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not really his fault

The lack of outside shooting puts real pressure on Gasol because the Mavs pack the lane so much. If he gets a pass he can’t put it on the floor since there are theree guys there to strip. If outside shots are made then Gasol’s defender has no help, he can put it on the floor and drive, shoot over the top, or back down. With the paint packed with Mavs, Gasol’s defender knows help can destroy most of those options. He’s got a lot of assists because he passes when he sees help coming, although in game 2 the defenders were so close they stripped him before he could pass. All these issues go away if someone could make jump shots.

by celticandlakerfanreally on May 6, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Out of all the Lakers teams we've enjoyed watching over the years, in which they were championship contenders...

this group instills the least amount of confidence as a fan. I want badly to believe the switch will be flipped, but we need to see at least three or four key players (Gasol, Odom, Barnes, Blake) step up and significantly contribute and that is nerve racking. Funny enough, if any team can pull it off it’s this one.
  
This will be historic and I hope in the end we get the last laugh.

"Winning takes talent; to repeat takes character." - John Wooden

by Joshua S on May 6, 2011 1:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Hey C.A. just a bit confused about this
and the one game they won required a four point play by Bryant to send the game into overtime.

Wasn’t it a Kobe 3 with 2.1 secs remaining that sent it into overtime?

"If you’re afraid to fail, then you’re probably going to fail. You know what I mean? Fuck it." -- Kobe "Black Mamba" Bryant

by jXn on May 6, 2011 2:04 PM PDT reply actions  

was that the game they were down by 5 with six seconds left?

"This team is going to win regardless of if I get 15 points or if I get four points. That’s the kind of team we are," he said. "But this team won’t win if we don’t have defensive toughness on the inside. I just think that’s the biggest thing I can bring." – Andrew Bynum

by njg425 on May 6, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

it was the 2nd game at home and they were down 3

"If you’re afraid to fail, then you’re probably going to fail. You know what I mean? Fuck it." -- Kobe "Black Mamba" Bryant

by jXn on May 6, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is what I was wondering. I'm pretty sure it was just a 3 pointer over Hamilton, not a 4 point play.

"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."

"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."

-Kobe Bryant

Chris Mortensen: "You know it's the 'Show-Me' State right Sam?"

"Pshh, 'Show Me.' (smirking) Yeah, I've heard that."

-Sam Bradford

by TrojanRam on May 6, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Weird

I could have sworn he was also fouled on the play. Am I mixing that with something else, or is this alternate reality day in my mind?

by C.A. Clark on May 6, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

No he was never fouled. Perhaps another game?

Maybe I could be wrong but I remember vividly that he took a very long 3 over Hamilton, tying the game and sending Staples into pandemonium.

"If you’re afraid to fail, then you’re probably going to fail. You know what I mean? Fuck it." -- Kobe "Black Mamba" Bryant

by jXn on May 6, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Perhaps his 4 pt play against the Nuggets back in 2006? That tied the game at 99.

Though I cannot recall the end result.

"If you’re afraid to fail, then you’re probably going to fail. You know what I mean? Fuck it." -- Kobe "Black Mamba" Bryant

by jXn on May 6, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's at about the 3 minute mark here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM4zS6IX1Ug

"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."

"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."

-Kobe Bryant

Chris Mortensen: "You know it's the 'Show-Me' State right Sam?"

"Pshh, 'Show Me.' (smirking) Yeah, I've heard that."

-Sam Bradford

by TrojanRam on May 6, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

They were down 6 if I remember.

Shaq got a 3-pt play (he made the free throw!) and Kobe hit a 3 over Hamilton to send the game into overtime.

"If somebody had their life on the line, and they’ve got their options on who they want to save their life — tell me who you’re going to pick?" Bryant asked. "You’re going to look at the stats first?"

by PoPs_737 on May 6, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate Boston sports, but this is pretty inspiring

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7r4s-Xp6yA&feature=related

Leaving Jimmer Fredette open for 3 is like leaving Brad Pitt alone with your wife. You know he's gonna hit it.

by RA37thriller on May 6, 2011 2:24 PM PDT reply actions  

wel welwelll Paul has girl Prolemo

there it is at MTO that Paul has girl probloms , that another lakers wife started drama with paul and his fiancee and that they eventually broke, broke like the chances of 3 peat common gasol your a spinard get over it please . my 2 cents.

by SkillA13 on May 6, 2011 2:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Intelligent, insightful, and very well-put!

Your Special Ed. teacher must be so proud of you!

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--Woody Paige's Blackboard

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--The Robert Horry

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by The_Power_and_the_Glory_of_Robert_Horry on May 6, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

No need for unwarranted insults

"If somebody had their life on the line, and they’ve got their options on who they want to save their life — tell me who you’re going to pick?" Bryant asked. "You’re going to look at the stats first?"

by PoPs_737 on May 6, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not right to insult SkillA13.

On the other hand, SKillA13’s grammar certainly needs improvement.

by edmondchoi on May 6, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha, this guy is back

"Phil Jackson seems to enjoy his status as 'NBA grand philosopher' and uses that platform to lob verbal hand grenades into other franchises or the league offices for fun." - Kurt Helin
"Please remember: it's not my fault your team sucks." - DexterFishmore
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by bluexfalcon on May 6, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

I was just on the admin page too

"Phil Jackson seems to enjoy his status as 'NBA grand philosopher' and uses that platform to lob verbal hand grenades into other franchises or the league offices for fun." - Kurt Helin
"Please remember: it's not my fault your team sucks." - DexterFishmore
Stalk, err, Follow me on Twitter: @bluefalcon916

by bluexfalcon on May 6, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was he banned?

lol

"Lebron joins teams with his friends; Kobe’s enemies join teams with him." -Gil Meriken

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by Hensi24 on May 6, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

He has a history, with his last warning being very clearly stated as a last chance

by C.A. Clark on May 6, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

kobe needs to stop living on the perimeter if the lakers are going to win

he has taken 49 shots in the series, 48 of which are jump shots, and 42 of which were outside of the key

by bigkino217 on May 6, 2011 3:50 PM PDT reply actions  

It's not really that simple.

If we don’t knock down open outside shots, Dallas has no reason to guard our shooters. They can clog the paint, which makes it impossible to get the ball inside. If we want to stop shooting from the perimeter, we first need to make some shots from there.

by LAMojo on May 6, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

i disagree

the amount of attention kobe warrants when driving is enough to get every laker more open shots on the perimeter. kobe’s decision to merely try to shoot over kidd has not punished dallas at all for putting kidd on him. right now, kobe (and for the most part, the rest of the lakers) are only taking contested perimeter shots in an attempt to stretch dallas’ collapsing defense. attacking the rim and allowing the defense to collapse and clog the paint would still result in perimeter shots, but they would be far less contested. once you start making the easier perimeter shots, the defense has to stop collapsing and stay out on the shooters which opens up the paint for the lakers bigs to operate.

by bigkino217 on May 6, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kobe is taking

and making contested jumpers because once he even touches the lane there’s 3 defenders waiting and Kidd chasing. They need to hit the outside open shots to open up that lane so the defenders are less likely to help and there’s less resistance when Kobe does drive. When there’s a third defender up top waiting, it makes them not have to help from down low which means the defense isn’t collapsing, but literally ignoring other guys. The majority of our shots on the perimeter have been open, outside of Kobe’s own. Kobe hitting shots won’t open the lane because they want him to shoot those. The other guys have to hit the shots that are created within the offense and off of painted area penetration so that they will actually be rotating instead of just sitting in zones. There’s no way Kobe will drive and be successful the way the defense is currently playing.

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by Marty Mart on May 6, 2011 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

DON'T STOP BELIEVING LA

D S B DSB D S B LA even though i won’t be here tonight SERIES 2-1 GUARANDAMTEE

by Gr81LIVES on May 6, 2011 4:35 PM PDT reply actions  

FUCK YEAH!

"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant

by Jelly Bean on May 6, 2011 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've been wanting to bring this up for a long time

I’m glad you said it first, CA.

Yeah, every time the Lakers were eliminated after the 3 peat, they went out with a whimper. Game 6 Spurs blowout, Game 5 Pistons 4th quarter cruise, Game 7 Suns blowout…

Game 5 in 2007 is the only exception. I think the final score was 99-92 or something.

THE CAVS SHALL RISE AGAIN...

BEAT THE HEAT.

by WaveOcean on May 6, 2011 4:43 PM PDT reply actions  

the one game they won required a four point play by Bryant to send the game into overtime

Actually what happened was that Ben Wallace rebounded the ball and put it back in to push the Pistons lead to 6 with 48 seconds to go. Bryant missed a 3, Shaq grabbed the rebound, earned an and-1, and sank the big free throw to cut the deficit to 3. Then the Lakers got a stop on the other end, and with 10 seconds to go, they called a timeout, got the ball to Kobe, and he shot a 3 with Rip Hamilton giving him just a little bit of room. Then with 2.8 seconds left, Karl Malone stole the inbounds Pistons pass.

THE CAVS SHALL RISE AGAIN...

BEAT THE HEAT.

by WaveOcean on May 6, 2011 4:46 PM PDT reply actions  

(UPDATE: Apparently I created this out of the figment of my imagination. It was simply a deep three pointer.)

Ah good.

Still a miracle nonetheless.

THE CAVS SHALL RISE AGAIN...

BEAT THE HEAT.

by WaveOcean on May 6, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Game 7 was the infamous “Kobe gave up” game.

From what I understand, Kobe attempted only two shots in the second half. I don’t remember if he scored any points, but if he did, they came off of free throws. You can visit ClubLakers for a thread of that game…they couldn’t understand it. Some blamed Phil for “not letting Kobe go off”. Others held that Kobe decided there was no way they could win, and wanted to “give the other guys playoff experience” because he already had plenty.

We’ll never know for sure.

THE CAVS SHALL RISE AGAIN...

BEAT THE HEAT.

by WaveOcean on May 6, 2011 4:54 PM PDT reply actions  

3 shots

These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson

TRADE KOBY FOR LUTHER HEAD!!!! (it's a movement)

KOBY BRAYNT isn't bi-polar, he's #Bi-WINNING

by Marty Mart on May 6, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember that

game…it could be argued he quit, I didn’t remember the 3 shots part but i remember his body language. you how the announcers will say “Kobe’s got that look” they definatly didn’t say it that game.

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by 2NASHTY on May 6, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, the Lakers are 1-3 at home this season, so

I mean, teh road is good, right?

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lebron should just lock himself away and not talk for the rest of forever-LA32

by 99bc99 on May 6, 2011 4:59 PM PDT reply actions  

FYI, the Lakers are 2-3 at home in the playoffs

L. A. won Game 2 and Game 5 against the Hornets, but lost Game 1 against the Hornets and the first two games against the Mavs.

by edmondchoi on May 6, 2011 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

hello guys!

i hope one, if not two (as it is supposed to be), of our bigs simply dominates tonight. too much to ask? okay, how about we ship the choker in the offseason? right now, you earn your paycheck or go suck somewhere else.

anyhow, no time for distractions. pau, you got to play and shut up.

these lakers decided to play the switch game. well, it’s been off a lot of times. i thought they would come out and play a different series, dominating this dallas team as they could. now they want us to attach life support during games and want to make us die a bit more. sure, am up for that. but that ain’t necessary for champs.

i believe in these lakers. not the best-looking but always had that ceiling (no matter how i think the triangkill at times slows our talent down). now it’s all about heart.

phil may have foreseen this: it’s all about the last stand. GO LAKERS!

ps: chokers should be packaged for dwight.

by bypasser on May 6, 2011 5:02 PM PDT reply actions  

if Lakers loses tonite....OMG doooooommmmm

dallas -2 there is a chance here that lakers will win… just hope so

by Vui on May 6, 2011 5:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Gonna go with whimper

based on your convenient history lesson, that is. Hoping for bang, but sounds like history might repeat itself, we’ll see what happens tonight. You can bet that if we don’t win tonight we’ll probably get swept, and thus will indeed “go quietly into the night”

by Wiseguy20 on May 6, 2011 5:57 PM PDT reply actions  

let's do this guys!

let’s support the team whatever the outcome. WE CAN!

"There's no I in TEAM, but there is I in WINNING." - Air Jordan

by gotchaking on May 6, 2011 5:57 PM PDT reply actions  

GO LAKERS GO LAKERS

"I got my caveman club," -- THE BLACK MAMBA

by smart_guy on May 6, 2011 6:03 PM PDT reply actions  

They aren't losing the series. I'm just the confident.

nothing to do with homerism. Its just not happening. Keep the faith everyone. If you jumped off the bandwagon then turn in your lakers’ fan card right now. : ) Just call 800-I-give up to deactivate.

"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant

by Jelly Bean on May 6, 2011 6:06 PM PDT reply actions  

lol

mad funny

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by bluexfalcon on May 6, 2011 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

watching this game while hugging a bottle of vodka

maybe it’s time to seek help lol…

"I’ve never understood this stuff, where a star player sits out and a team goes into the tank. Well, they need him because he makes them better. Well, if he’s making them better, they should be able to survive without him. That’s how you lead your guys. You’ve got to be able to make guys suffice on their own, without you. If you’re there all the time and they take you away, they shouldn’t need a respirator."

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by Mike1204 on May 6, 2011 8:02 PM PDT reply actions  

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