Mike Brown Could Soon Be The Lakers' Head Coach :-(
by DexterFishmore on May 24, 2011 8:34 PM PDT
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PrintWhen the rumors about Mike Brown surfaced late last week, I didn't get too worked up about them. Mostly because on the Lakers' shortlist were at least couple obviously more qualified candidates, and an organization as smart as the Lakers wouldn't really pass on Rick Adelman and Brian Shaw to hire Mike Brown. Right?
Back me up on this, Marc Spears and Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports:
The Los Angeles Lakers are engaged in serious discussions with Mike Brown about the ex-Cleveland Cavaliers coach becoming the franchise's next coach, league sources told Yahoo! Sports on Tuesday night.
The Lakers are focused on talks with Brown, who was fired in 2010 after five seasons in Cleveland, where he went 272-138.
Los Angeles had considered longtime assistant Brian Shaw, but the focus is now on Brown. There could be an agreement in place within the next 24-48 hours, sources say, but nothing has been finalized.
The two sides are working out issues that could be dealbreakers and cause the Lakers to go to another candidate, sources said, but there's clearly momentum toward Brown becoming the next head coach.
Oh. I... see.
If you need me, I'll be over here putting my fist through various hard surfaces.
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At least it's not...
Larry Brown
or
Charlie Brown
or
Kwame Brown
by DreamShake34 on May 25, 2011 3:11 AM PDT up reply actions
I like Charlie Brown. I wonder if the Lakers checked with him.
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Charlie Brown is a Better fit than the other two
Larry Brown would try to trade the whole roster for Eddy Curry and D. J. Augustin.
Kwame wouldn’t be able to sign the contract because it is very difficult to hold a pen when you have hooves for hands.
As long as someone else doesn’t hire Lucy, I think Charlie Brown would work.
by DreamShake34 on May 25, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Good lord
I mean, he’s not terrible, but really? Adelman won’t cost more than $4-5 million/year.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
He may have wanted the PJ type salary
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-Phil Jackson
Doesn't matter if you want the PJ salary.
Show us the 11 rings and the salary is yours. No rings? Hell you better be content with what we give you then.
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by afrikabamboodle on May 24, 2011 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Totally agree
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Tim Duncan wins championships. Vince Carters fills the arenas.
Kobe Bryant does both. -- from some Yahoo! column, I think it was Steve Kerr.
The ideal way to win a championship is step by step.
-Phil Jackson
i think a million per ring is fair
so that comes out to… 0?
by heinzketchup on May 25, 2011 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions
I wonder who pushing for this signing.
This potential signing seems to have Jim Buss written all over it because there is no way in the blue hell you pass up Rick Adelman for Mike Brown. Its illogical.
the lakers have always had issues paying money for coaching, im betting adleman is asking for more than the Lakers are willing to pay
Phil was the highest paid coach in the league.
ANYBODY we hire will have a smaller salary.
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
The Lakers floated $3-5 million as annual salary for the next head coach, which is more than
the average head coach in the league. If Rick Adelman asks for $5 million, you sign him up every time. Mike Brown isn’t going to cost much less than that either. Adelman is the better coach. Its not even close AND he’s probably more suitable for this team than Brown.
eh, i wanted rick adelmen, but it certainly could have been worse….as for B. Shaw, I don’t know why so many fans are in his camp, we certainly weren’t great when we had Kurt Rambis at the helm post phil/rudy last time….
my list would be:
1. Adelmen (probably didnt get it cuz Buss doesnt wanna pay the man)
2 Brown
3. Coach K.
Kurt Rambis and Brian Shaw are completely different people.
Different attitudes, different personalities, different skin color, different everything.
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I hope the deal breaker would be Kobe and Co. dont want Brown, but would that be enough?
The two sides are working out issues that could be dealbreakers and cause the Lakers to go to another candidate, sources said, but there’s clearly momentum toward Brown becoming the next head coach.
Always Lurking. Always. Yes.
Tim Duncan wins championships. Vince Carters fills the arenas.
Kobe Bryant does both. -- from some Yahoo! column, I think it was Steve Kerr.
The ideal way to win a championship is step by step.
-Phil Jackson
All I know is that there is no way this hire is being made on an impulse.
cal: 5 - 1 - 2 lad: 6 lal: 16 cfc: 4 gbp: 13
twit | "Sooner or later the word's going to get around the league that Matt Kemp might beat you." - The Bard, Vin Scully
If this goes through....
Mitch will be on the hot seat for next season.
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
it's ultimately dr. buss' decision
the entire laker front office/ownership would be on the hot seat
"It ain't Chinese algebra. If you get stops and you execute on offense, normally that team wins." - Tony Allen
"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker
Ohhh hell nooooooo
Not his nasally talking voice, he ain’t even on my list, why why lakers management, don’t do this to me lol
"Hardwork beats talent when talent fails to work hard"-Norm Nixon
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by BrittneyM on May 24, 2011 8:45 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
its not that bad really
he’s not a guy i blame for cavs struggles really. That team was very flawed and just a 1 man show completely. It was a personell issue much more than a coaching issue back there. He might not be the best hiring because I would’ve loved JVG, but Adelman would’ve only been here for a couple years since he’s the same age as PJ. And I still don’t think Shaw is the best guy to coach a veteran team with such high ass expectations.
"If somebody had their life on the line, and they’ve got their options on who they want to save their life — tell me who you’re going to pick? You’re going to look at the stats first?" - Kobe Bryant
he comes from the spurs orgy
so he has some good quality roots
"If somebody had their life on the line, and they’ve got their options on who they want to save their life — tell me who you’re going to pick? You’re going to look at the stats first?" - Kobe Bryant
by desecrator09 on May 24, 2011 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I made a post about this before it came up on the site,wasn’t trying to duplicate what the site posted.I was just trying to let other fans know what I ran across on another site before it came up here,anyway Buss must wants to bring in some new flavor or something.I don’t quite get this one.He’s a bit better defensive coach but I’m most interested to see what will happen at PG this off season
by LakersMania on May 24, 2011 8:50 PM PDT reply actions
It's cool, man
We appreciate you sharing your thoughts. We just wanted to concentrate the discussion in one spot.
Please remember: it's not my fault your team sucks.
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by DexterFishmore on May 24, 2011 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions
so he stole you shit?
"If somebody had their life on the line, and they’ve got their options on who they want to save their life — tell me who you’re going to pick? You’re going to look at the stats first?" - Kobe Bryant
by desecrator09 on May 24, 2011 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I think a big motivation for this was the crave for a high tempo offense like the one in Cleveland.
Lebron out in transition feeding it to teammates all over the floor was fun to watch but did it work? Obviously not. Another big problem is well Lebron isn’t our starting SF… it’s a man named Ron Artest. Would I pay to watch Ron Ron leading fast breaks up and down the floor all night? Yeah I would for the laughs involved. Do I expect the Lakers to contend for a championship with Mike Brown at the helm? Nope. Not at all.
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by afrikabamboodle on May 24, 2011 8:51 PM PDT reply actions
That's hardly a reason for this signing
Our inability to have a high tempo offense has to do with personnel more than anything. And keep in mind that Brown didn’t run in Cleveland either; his teams were always in the bottom ten in the league in pace.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Calm down, people
Excuse me for doing so, but I’m going to have faith in management that they have done their due diligence in choosing a coach, no matter who it ends up being. Do you really think that we would refuse to pay a coach an extra million if it cost us a title or two (or three or four)? Management knows what it’s doing. Unless of course Magic is hired to coach again. Only then should we run for the hills.
It's easy to be clutch when you let Mike Miller brick the last shot.
by LakerFan24 on May 24, 2011 8:54 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
The way they've been handling their business these past few years, it wouldn't surprise me
Hardballing free agents has become the norm.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Who?
There’s a difference between “hardballing,” as you put it, and paying fair market value (and maybe a bit more) for people the organization covets. When was the last time the Lakers were outbid for a player that mattered, or coach? The Lakers WILL not get outbid for the coach they want, and they WILL pay what is necessary (and no more) for that coach, if recent history is any indicator.
It's easy to be clutch when you let Mike Miller brick the last shot.
What recent history?
We’ve had one coach to pay for the past decade and he’s on a tier so high over the rest of the league that you can’t even use him as a comparison. When we had to pay Rudy T for a season, we gave him $30 million/5 years. Every single report has indicated that the Lakers are unwilling to progress past their bench point and cough up additional money for any of these coaches. If that costs us Shaw or Adelman for Mike Brown, that’s unacceptable. You pay that premium if that’s what it takes and all indications is that the Lakers aren’t willing to do that.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
@daldridgetnt
Lakers search down to Brown, Adelman, w/BShaw still in mix. Team holding to hard line on salary and look like they’ll hire whoever agrees.
Pray Adelman or Shaw caves and Lacob offers Brown a ridiculous salary.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Wow really they'd hire anybody who agrees
Fuck oh fuck
Kobe where are you, get on this, I don’t just want anybody
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There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be committed against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the Limelight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
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by BrittneyM on May 24, 2011 9:46 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
My offer
I’ll coach the Lakers for whatever Mike Brown’s asking for, minus three dollars.
Please remember: it's not my fault your team sucks.
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by DexterFishmore on May 24, 2011 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Soooo greedy. Why not minus $10?
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I'll coach them for $2M/yr
Dear Mitch,
Please hire a coach for the Lakers already. Each new "candidate" that gets mentioned sounds like a worse coach than Brad Childress was for the Vikings.
Hmm...Mike Brown was under Pop for several years..
"Losing feels worse than winning feels good." -Vin Scully
he's not bad
i’m not a huge fan of adelman either
"If somebody had their life on the line, and they’ve got their options on who they want to save their life — tell me who you’re going to pick? You’re going to look at the stats first?" - Kobe Bryant
by desecrator09 on May 24, 2011 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions
lolwut
Adelman is a way better coach. It’s not remotely close.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
i read some game threads on the rockets blog
everybody kills him
"Losing feels worse than winning feels good." -Vin Scully
We do to Phil also
There’s no comparison from their histories, their systems, or their personalities. None whatsoever. If you want to hire a defensive specialist, get JVG. No reason to take Brown.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Adelman is great
at complaining to the referees and always choking when the big game is on the line. Besides, he runs a screen and roll offense and I can’t see old man Fish running it.
agree with you on this
but it is desecrator’s preference, whether you like it or not
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Could be worse
It could be Mike Woodson
by captainamerica* on May 24, 2011 9:06 PM PDT reply actions
I know the Busses want to save money.. but DON'T JUST SETTLE FOR WHOEVER COMES CHEAPEST!!!
basketball doesn't build character, it reveals it
Shaw's vengeance will doom us....
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
Agreed. They don't want an angry Shaw at their hands.
basketball doesn't build character, it reveals it
look what happened to jack ruby
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by LOOOeee on May 24, 2011 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I dont get it
if Buss can give Kobe a friggen 25 million a year contract extension, why the hell would he cheap out on the head coach all of a sudden?
No extra money for the coach.
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Tim Duncan wins championships. Vince Carters fills the arenas.
Kobe Bryant does both. -- from some Yahoo! column, I think it was Steve Kerr.
The ideal way to win a championship is step by step.
-Phil Jackson
I say we get Jerry West to talk up Mike Brown to Warriors management and take him out of the running.
Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't lose. - Bill Gates
Yes, I'm smug, withholding, and judgmental, but at least I'm better than you. - Anonymous
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by SoCalGal on May 24, 2011 9:23 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
No fucking way
Mitch is out of his freaking mind if he chooses brown over adelman or shaw. Brown has no offense whatsoever. His only offense in Cleveland was give it to lebron and get outta the way. At least adelman and shaw have offensive systems. Fuck brown. He don’t know shit
by drake m on May 24, 2011 9:23 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
i agree with the give it to lebron and get outta the way
"Losing feels worse than winning feels good." -Vin Scully
Lol agreed
"Hardwork beats talent when talent fails to work hard"-Norm Nixon
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be committed against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the Limelight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
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by BrittneyM on May 24, 2011 9:48 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
My list:
1. Adelman
2. Shaw
3. JVG
…
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167. Luke Walton
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389. Mike Brown
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
here's mine
1. AMMO
2. Adleman
3. Shaw
4. JVG
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167. Mike Dunleavy
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389. Mike Brown
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12938249457302379012867243754. Mark Jackson
by shaqfor3 on May 24, 2011 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd for AMMO
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Tim Duncan wins championships. Vince Carters fills the arenas.
Kobe Bryant does both. -- from some Yahoo! column, I think it was Steve Kerr.
The ideal way to win a championship is step by step.
-Phil Jackson
LOL
rec’d for AMMO and Mark Jackson’s spots
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Lol
If it’s like this, my pick for head coach is jvg
"Hardwork beats talent when talent fails to work hard"-Norm Nixon
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be committed against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the Limelight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
I'm on it so let's tweet: @B_M_Bizness
by BrittneyM on May 24, 2011 9:49 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd love Mike Brown as an assistant coach.. but yeah. DON'T SETTLE FOR THE CHEAPEST OPTION.
basketball doesn't build character, it reveals it
why why why why why
would you even CONSIDER mike brown? how did mike brown even become a coach in the first place?
Quality is our dignity. Service is our lift.
he studied under Pop from 2000-2003 and won a ring there
"Losing feels worse than winning feels good." -Vin Scully
Getting the feeling that Mitch has finally given into Buss' request about getting rid of the triangle.
I’m pretty sure Shaw’s not getting the job. But Mike Brown? His offense was give Lebron the ball and let him go apeshit. One more mistake on Mitch’s part, I SAY WE UNRETIRE JERRY WEST. Can’t believe Mitch gave Fisher and Ron those long contracts.
"Everything negative - pressure, challenges - is all an opportunity for me to rise."
- Kobe B. Bryant
we all saw last time what happened when jim buss hired a coach whose offense solely consisted of "give the ball to kobe and stand around"
basketball doesn't build character, it reveals it
While Mitch Kupchak is the GM of the Lakers, he still has to follow some of the wishes of the Buss family.
He doesn’t have carte blanche to just do as he pleases and ignore Jim or Jerry.
Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't lose. - Bill Gates
Yes, I'm smug, withholding, and judgmental, but at least I'm better than you. - Anonymous
Tweetness: @SoCalGal64
I dont know about Brown
Yes, he is very good defensively, no doubt about it.
I am still not sure about his offense though. LeBron dominated the organization so much that Brown might not have had much choice in the matter. Lets not forget, the first 2 years he was there, the next best offensive players after LeBron were Larry Hughes and Daniel Gibson respectively, and that just doesnt get you anywhere. Mo Williams is an improvement over those guys, but he is definitely more of a 3rd or a 4th option on a contending team. The offense that got them 66 wins in 08-09 was LeBron driving and scoring, or kicking out to Mo who drained 3s like crazy all year.
In other words, in my opinion, he is still kind of untested in a regular organization with an actual team. His attitude wasnt the best, but he could have improved on that.
He is still far better than Dunleavy though, who is a known product, and is a known bad offensive coach.
I don't think he's terrible, actually I would call him underrated
Just wouldn’t hire him ahead of Shaw, Adelman, or JVG.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
We dont know much about Shaw as a head coach
Adelman or JVG are both on my list ahead of Brown, but I am just saying that I dont think this is a total disaster.
rescheduled, 10 days before halloween
trick or treat?!
"Losing feels worse than winning feels good." -Vin Scully
Sorry about the double post
I would argue that our offensive problems this year had little to do with strategy and more to do with our players.
I think most coaches could do fine with our lineup next year.
The thing is, we have no idea what the higher-ups want for next year. Total rebuild, partial rebuild like we kind of tried and failed at miserably last year (with 6 new bench players), or trying with virtually the same lineup? Triangle, no triangle?
Oh, hi Kobe! What's your opinion?
Ok, thanks Kobe!
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by doubleteapot on May 24, 2011 9:41 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
If it is Brown
then I figure it is just a placeholder for a year or two. Once the CBA is ironed out and Dwight H becomes a Laker, Phil will come back to put the pieces back together – again.
"Hey if repeating as champions were that easy even the Spurs could do it." olf
What can Brown do for us?
Mike Brown’s Cavs teams played pretty good defense so maybe that’s what Mitch and co. are thinking in considering him for the job. During his 5 years in Cleveland they were in the top 10 in points allowed:
2005-06 – 95.4 ppg (10th)
2006-07 – 92.9 ppg (5th)
2007-08 – 96.7 ppg (9th)
2008-09 – 91.4 ppg (1st)
2009-10 – 95.6 ppg (6th)
Offensively he didnt have much to work with in Cleveland. It was LeBron and a bunch of scrubs so perhaps the jury is out as far as that is concerned. He wouldn’t be on the top of my list. I think they might be a little concerned about Adelman’s age (65) and Dunleavy is a micro manager who likes to call plays every single time down court. Thats why him and Baron Davis couldnt get on the same page.
That is what I said above basically
2nd options after LeBron in year order
Drew Gooden/young Carlos Boozer
Larry Hughes
Larry Hughes/Daniel Gibson
Mo Williams
Mo Williams/Antawn Jamison
You must be fucking kidding me
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Oh damn
That is pretty cheap though, for a coach I believe.
Really might have been a “monetary issue”.
I am not as mad as most of you guys are. I dont think anybody would have been seen as a good coach in the LeBron years since he dominated the whole organization such a huge amount.
I'll get over it eventually, and yeah, there are positives
It’s just that Adelman and Shaw are such better fits for this roster.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
by LakerAce on May 24, 2011 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions 11 recs
We need to create an anti-rec button so everyone can do this to my post
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
by Ben R on May 24, 2011 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bay Area sucks
/CLL’d
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Tim Duncan wins championships. Vince Carters fills the arenas.
Kobe Bryant does both. -- from some Yahoo! column, I think it was Steve Kerr.
The ideal way to win a championship is step by step.
-Phil Jackson
Please oh my god nooooooo
Noooo nah not after we go out in the playoffs like that, I was hoping to feel better this off season now I feel worse, just fucking great, in getting offline now, my head is steaming wtf lakers wtf
"Hardwork beats talent when talent fails to work hard"-Norm Nixon
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be committed against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the Limelight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
I'm on it so let's tweet: @B_M_Bizness
by BrittneyM on May 24, 2011 9:53 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
wow
so i am gonna hear his laughing and farting at the post game.. lol
let see… how the cav lost in playoff
2008 to the celtics 1 man againt the big 3
2009 to the magics not enough size for the match orlando
2010 lequit throw the series away
with this lakers team has talent and size and a superstar who know??
the world is ending! this has jim buss written all over it!
by illyistic1 on May 24, 2011 9:48 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Why are you positive about that?
Jerry Buss made it clear earlier today that the job of choosing the coach rests with management, not the players.
Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't lose. - Bill Gates
Yes, I'm smug, withholding, and judgmental, but at least I'm better than you. - Anonymous
Tweetness: @SoCalGal64
Yes Kobe pleasssssseeeeee
"Hardwork beats talent when talent fails to work hard"-Norm Nixon
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be committed against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the Limelight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
I'm on it so let's tweet: @B_M_Bizness
by BrittneyM on May 24, 2011 9:54 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
DO IT KOBE
Always Lurking. Always. Yes.
Tim Duncan wins championships. Vince Carters fills the arenas.
Kobe Bryant does both. -- from some Yahoo! column, I think it was Steve Kerr.
The ideal way to win a championship is step by step.
-Phil Jackson
They still would ask their franchise player as Kobe clearly is
They cant have Kobe dislike the new coach
makes sense..
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Always Lurking. Always. Yes.
Tim Duncan wins championships. Vince Carters fills the arenas.
Kobe Bryant does both. -- from some Yahoo! column, I think it was Steve Kerr.
The ideal way to win a championship is step by step.
-Phil Jackson
oh god please no....
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
it's csn bayarea.
it wouldn’t be imprudent to have doubts
Quality is our dignity. Service is our lift.
look up
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
we'll know for sure if yahoo sports confirms it
I know reports from local sports sites like this came out when melo was in trade talks and they never quite panned out.
if we were all in a room together....
i can imagine complete chaos after this mike brown news. everyone running all over the place, smashing things.
LET'S RIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RIOT LIKE IT’S SUMMER 2010!!!!!!!!!!!! TO THE STREETS>>>>>>>>
by ariz810922 on May 24, 2011 9:53 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Wtf wtf wtf
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo I’m done this is bullshit
"Hardwork beats talent when talent fails to work hard"-Norm Nixon
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be committed against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the Limelight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
I'm on it so let's tweet: @B_M_Bizness
by BrittneyM on May 24, 2011 9:55 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
From Woj on Yahoo
“A close league friend told Yahoo! Sports, "He really wants this [the Lakers job] to happen."
The Lakers haven’t yet sought input from players, including Kobe Bryant."
@marcel_mutoni
Sources: Kobe Bryant has just traded himself back to Italy in protest of the Mike Brown rumor.
Always Lurking. Always. Yes.
Tim Duncan wins championships. Vince Carters fills the arenas.
Kobe Bryant does both. -- from some Yahoo! column, I think it was Steve Kerr.
The ideal way to win a championship is step by step.
-Phil Jackson
by imposibol on May 24, 2011 9:57 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
@SoCalGal64
I wanna say goodbye to my friends here. I’m moving to Italy to watch Kobe play basketball.
Always Lurking. Always. Yes.
Tim Duncan wins championships. Vince Carters fills the arenas.
Kobe Bryant does both. -- from some Yahoo! column, I think it was Steve Kerr.
The ideal way to win a championship is step by step.
-Phil Jackson
marcel_mutoni: Sources: Kobe Bryant has just traded himself back to Italy in protest of the Mike Brown rumor.
Okay, so rational check
He’s not a terrible candidate. As NewCavsfan indicated above, there are definite positives to take from him — he has solid defensive chops and has been hamstrung by a lack of decent offensive options outside of LeBron, who, as has been widely reported, was enabled by the Cleveland organization and Brown couldn’t do anything about his antics. So there’s that. His offensive sets did conform to the personnel that were available and given how terrible Kuester has been in Detroit, it wasn’t Kuester directing everything either. So there’s that. At the same time, it’s less Brown and more the fact that Adelman and Shaw are such better fits.
So on the big list I made a week back or so, I’d put Brown beneath Sloan, but that’s more Sloan’s gravitas more than anything, as his system doesn’t work for us when Brown’s can.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Too many unknowns with Brown.
He’s a gamble. Championship teams don’t take gambles.
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
Teams that get swept in the second round sure do
Please remember: it's not my fault your team sucks.
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by DexterFishmore on May 24, 2011 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
This is not a championship team. At all.
If you have watched the rest of the playoffs, I dont think the Lakers could beat any of the 4 remaining teams.
Not the way they played in the playoffs
but they were pretty decent the past two seasons, and the two months post all-star break …
Well, to be fair, we are no longer a championship team, so there's that.
Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't lose. - Bill Gates
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What I meant is that this core has won 2 titles.
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
There was literally nothing he could do with the offense for the first 3 years
I dont want to take the “high road” or whatever, but I am pretty sure that I have seen more Cavs games than most people here.
When Mo Williams came, he added a couple of plays, and the same thing when Jamison and Shaq came. Granted, he is definitely not an offensive minded coach, but he really had nothing to work with. A superstar, and two decent offenisve options who are both horrible defensively (Mo and Jamison).
His lineups were awful a lot though. That kind of stuff can be corrected though.
How were his lineups awful?
Not disagreeing. I just can’t remember that part all that well.
Please remember: it's not my fault your team sucks.
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by DexterFishmore on May 24, 2011 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
He should have played Jamison off the bench so his D wouldnt be exposed as much
Besides, the Cavs had been playing well all year with Hickson at the 4 and Shaq or Varejao at the 5.
When Jamison started, that meant another horrible defender along with Mo Williams. Mo couldnt be a bench player, because he was the only one who could even someone create a shot outside of LeBron.
Bottom line: Jamison should have been a 6th man, but instead Brown had to play the “big name acquisition” and it screwed up the defense and chemistry.
Besides that, he never played Gibson as much as he should have, and played Shaq way too much compared to Anderson Varejao.
Oh right
I remember all that now. Thanks.
Please remember: it's not my fault your team sucks.
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by DexterFishmore on May 24, 2011 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
That's a fair stance
It’s just that he was never particularly known for his offensive creativity, and we have that available in Adelman. I’m not sure he helps this team out execution-wise.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
he and odom can have fun, until odom is traded---hopefully
"Losing feels worse than winning feels good." -Vin Scully
you could see this coming
This is a guy, who has good knowledge in the defense side of the court, the Lakers lack defense throughout the season, and this is a coach Kobe Bryant can do whatever he wants, do you think Kobe Bryant is going to hear anyone that his name is not name Phil Jackson. They are a good veteran team, they need more bench and toughness in the defensive side of things, and have another perimeter option besides Kobe Bryant.
The PuertoRican Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on May 24, 2011 10:03 PM PDT reply actions
the lakers lack defense?
says who? they had one of the best defenses last season
Quality is our dignity. Service is our lift.
and the Mavs were a bad matchup for LA. effing 3 point shooters. and Dirk.
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Tim Duncan wins championships. Vince Carters fills the arenas.
Kobe Bryant does both. -- from some Yahoo! column, I think it was Steve Kerr.
The ideal way to win a championship is step by step.
-Phil Jackson
really? Dallas torch the Lakers apart! and the Lakers, this year didn’t show any physicality in defense in any big game this year.
The PuertoRican Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on May 24, 2011 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I know…but then 2-5, struggles at guarding CP3 with a New Orleans that should have been swept and getting massacred by Dallas, where Tyson Chandler outplayed defensively Gasol and Bynum, and they got all the three point shots they wanted with little or no defense on them
The PuertoRican Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on May 24, 2011 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
wtf is with this kobe can do whatever he wants stuff?
Kobe openly endorsed 3 different coaches that would not allow him to just do whatever he wants.
These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson
The key to championships = SIGN LUTHER HEAD!!!!!!!!
What I want to know is...
Did the Lakers even have any serious talks with Adelman?
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
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by bluexfalcon on May 24, 2011 10:06 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
The situation has spoken.
"Everything negative - pressure, challenges - is all an opportunity for me to rise."
- Kobe B. Bryant
this is only the beginning
"Losing feels worse than winning feels good." -Vin Scully
by Tkuang on May 24, 2011 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
When I first read this, I thought it was a joke
I told my wife that he has no chance. Now to see that they are in serious discussions with him is crazy….. Lebron quit on him. His offense is trash! Defense is good though, but our defense is already good. Aldeman is the perfect fit….. I mean what the hell are they thinking??? First the Heat win, and now this!!!!
Since you playing ball let me show you how I put my "D" down........ Rebound!!! Your man dropped the ball and I caught it, Im trying to Lay-up in ur body, ya Im ballin!!!
LeBron quit on his whole team.
Adelman was a great fit, and the Heat loss is awful, but dont blow this out of proportion.
Just dreadful
Rose’s last two shots in regulation were terrible. He should have driven at least once.
The team left him out to dry
No screen set for him, no movement, no cutters…this loss isn’t just on him.
THE CAVS SHALL RISE AGAIN...
BEAT THE HEAT.
Of course not
Thibodeau should have probably also given him at least a minute or two off at the start off the 4th.
Does this mean that off-season trades are more likely?
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
Honestly, I have no idea anymore
with such a clearly defensive-minded coach, may be planning to try and keep the Triangle via an assistant coach.
can you imagine derek fisher
running 7 seconds or less?
Quality is our dignity. Service is our lift.
by LOOOeee on May 24, 2011 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
he's gotta make a living like the rest of us
his contract isn’t up yet
THE CAVS SHALL RISE AGAIN...
BEAT THE HEAT.
He has already made a huge living
I have always said that I could be a minimum salary player and do just as much as Luke Walton, while waving towels around more and being a bigger cheerleader!
Running in seven seconds or less? No.
Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't lose. - Bill Gates
Yes, I'm smug, withholding, and judgmental, but at least I'm better than you. - Anonymous
Tweetness: @SoCalGal64
3 points shooters are needed, whoever coach is hired
Always Lurking. Always. Yes.
Tim Duncan wins championships. Vince Carters fills the arenas.
Kobe Bryant does both. -- from some Yahoo! column, I think it was Steve Kerr.
The ideal way to win a championship is step by step.
-Phil Jackson
by imposibol on May 24, 2011 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Looks like rapture did happen
This is hell on earth
by Kobe_Bryant's_Scowl on May 24, 2011 10:10 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Time to cheesegrate my forehead and do a self-trepanning
basketball doesn't build character, it reveals it
Mike Brown?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkAP4t2E2Bc
"l3oh, SSR Inssromniac" (courtesy of jXn) @l3ohyoung
Veni Vidi Vici
If he becomes the new coach, I'll be a bigger Laker fan than I've been in years.
I am not even joking. I will want the Lakers to win it all so badly.
THE CAVS SHALL RISE AGAIN...
BEAT THE HEAT.
Heck, I dumped on him too
But I still like them nonetheless.
THE CAVS SHALL RISE AGAIN...
BEAT THE HEAT.
Still no confirmation from ESPN
@LarryCoon “Serious negotiations:” is what I heard. RT @AllOverSports: Larry, is this official with the big free agent signing, Mike Brown?
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
this was 5 minutes ago, btw
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
probably not going be a confirmation for another 24 hours
THE CAVS SHALL RISE AGAIN...
BEAT THE HEAT.
Only way this makes sense is if Adelman wants $8 mil+ and the Busses really want to cut ties with the triangle, thus passing on Shaw. And even then, it still makes no sense.
basketball doesn't build character, it reveals it
Hire JVG
/solution
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
I created a profile just to comment on this
I read this site all the time but until now haven’t felt compelled to write in the comments section. But if this news is true of Mike Brown being hired, then I officially nominate Jim Buss to have his name changed to ‘Tommy Boy’. Sorry if someone has already made the Jim Buss/Tommy Boy comparison, I just felt that I had to say it somewhere.
Sorry you had to join us as such a sad time, but welcome to SS&R.
Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't lose. - Bill Gates
Yes, I'm smug, withholding, and judgmental, but at least I'm better than you. - Anonymous
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Tommy Boy, Barney Fife, any buffoon will work at this point
Why can’t Jeanie buy out Jim so we can all be done with that moron?
WTF!!!
This is really some BS!!!
Since you playing ball let me show you how I put my "D" down........ Rebound!!! Your man dropped the ball and I caught it, Im trying to Lay-up in ur body, ya Im ballin!!!
how about a player coach
I've missed more than 9,000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed." - Michael Jordan
Wouldn't agree to that
Need a new voice in the locker room. Just didn’t think it would be Brown.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
25 million a year for Kobe, highest payroll in the league
and you cheap out on the head coach….ummmmmmmmmm
This can't be life.
http://eye-on-basketball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22748484/29558997
There will be questions as to why Rick Adelman was not given the job, but Brown is a capable coach who fits in well with the veteran Lakers squad. It’s a move for both stability and change, just what Buss was looking for.
"Phil Jackson seems to enjoy his status as 'NBA grand philosopher' and uses that platform to lob verbal hand grenades into other franchises or the league offices for fun." - Kurt Helin
"Please remember: it's not my fault your team sucks." - DexterFishmore
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Damn
Starting to look pretty official.
Maybe Adelman’s offense was too similar to the triangle for their liking? I dont really know what else it could have been.
true
seems like we’re all waiting for tomorrow then.
"Phil Jackson seems to enjoy his status as 'NBA grand philosopher' and uses that platform to lob verbal hand grenades into other franchises or the league offices for fun." - Kurt Helin
"Please remember: it's not my fault your team sucks." - DexterFishmore
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by bluexfalcon on May 24, 2011 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah, this
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
Which had two league sources on record.
by Julio Nievas on May 24, 2011 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Seems strange to me that an organization like the Lakers wouldn't settle
for the best coach they can get.
"Everything negative - pressure, challenges - is all an opportunity for me to rise."
- Kobe B. Bryant
Man, this cant be happening right now
I dont see where there is a fit with this team. No connection no where. If Kobe doesnt fit in wit this cat, its going to be over
Since you playing ball let me show you how I put my "D" down........ Rebound!!! Your man dropped the ball and I caught it, Im trying to Lay-up in ur body, ya Im ballin!!!
lol if this is just what Buss was looking for
/fail
What he was looking for was Adelman
These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson
The key to championships = SIGN LUTHER HEAD!!!!!!!!
By all indications, this is a done deal. By all indications, the rapture DID happen. May 24th, 2011.
basketball doesn't build character, it reveals it
That fucking radio dude was wrong again. He changed he date to October.
Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't lose. - Bill Gates
Yes, I'm smug, withholding, and judgmental, but at least I'm better than you. - Anonymous
Tweetness: @SoCalGal64
The Ding report
Brown’s situation was described in a report by Yahoo! Sports as possibly resulting in a done deal within 24-to-48 hours. But the Lakers are not believed to be in any rush, believing they have the job that Brown covets more than those others — along with holding other head-coaching candidates as viable options.
http://lakers.ocregister.com/2011/05/24/lakers-interest-in-mike-brown-as-coach-intensifies/55329/
At least they’re taking their time.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
arjunc12: between mike brown and vinny del negro, staples center will set records for wasted offensive plays in one building
by shaqfor3 on May 24, 2011 10:24 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
T_T
"Phil Jackson seems to enjoy his status as 'NBA grand philosopher' and uses that platform to lob verbal hand grenades into other franchises or the league offices for fun." - Kurt Helin
"Please remember: it's not my fault your team sucks." - DexterFishmore
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by bluexfalcon on May 24, 2011 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
And sometimes on the same day.
Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't lose. - Bill Gates
Yes, I'm smug, withholding, and judgmental, but at least I'm better than you. - Anonymous
Tweetness: @SoCalGal64
And sometimes in the same game.
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
Apocalypse!!! Or... the Rapture?
"l3oh, SSR Inssromniac" (courtesy of jXn) @l3ohyoung
Veni Vidi Vici
/facepalm
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
by LakerAce on May 24, 2011 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I thought Dr. Buss wanted the Showtime Lakers back
This dude is far from Showtime. I wonder how Byron Scott, and Kurt Rambis feel??? This guy Mike Brown got the job they both wanted lol
Since you playing ball let me show you how I put my "D" down........ Rebound!!! Your man dropped the ball and I caught it, Im trying to Lay-up in ur body, ya Im ballin!!!
Well, we didn't want them either.
Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't lose. - Bill Gates
Yes, I'm smug, withholding, and judgmental, but at least I'm better than you. - Anonymous
Tweetness: @SoCalGal64
Wait, are you kidding me right now?
Kurt Rambis could be one of the worst coaches of all time.
Byron Scott is ok.
lolwut
Scott or Rambis would be terrible hires. Brown isn’t ideal, but he’s far and above a better coach than either of those two.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Im not sayin I wanted any of them
Im just sayin they wanted this job forever, and when it opens they both cant even interview for it lol
Since you playing ball let me show you how I put my "D" down........ Rebound!!! Your man dropped the ball and I caught it, Im trying to Lay-up in ur body, ya Im ballin!!!
I saw on other sites and on here a little where people thought this was a terrible idea. I’m leaning towards liking this move. Brown may be the least expensive candidate next to Shaw, but his actual experience as a Head Coach gives him an advantage. I didn’t like the idea at first but now I’m just ready for someone else to finish what Jackson started, the sooner they get a guy hired the better.
"In a dog eat dog world, you must have the mentality of a Pit Bull." -Phil Jackson
Brown over Shaw I can understand.
But Adelman??!?!?!?!?!?!?
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
I actually thought Aldeman was a no brainer, one foot already in the door type guy.
"In a dog eat dog world, you must have the mentality of a Pit Bull." -Phil Jackson
by waltbabyluv on May 24, 2011 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
He cannot possibly have been cheaper than Brian Shaw, who has no head coaching experience so would have no pull on salary.
Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't lose. - Bill Gates
Yes, I'm smug, withholding, and judgmental, but at least I'm better than you. - Anonymous
Tweetness: @SoCalGal64
That may be the case, but the money argument is invalid.
Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't lose. - Bill Gates
Yes, I'm smug, withholding, and judgmental, but at least I'm better than you. - Anonymous
Tweetness: @SoCalGal64
Brown may be the least expensive candidate next to Shaw, but his actual experience as a Head Coach gives him an advantage.
Next to Shaw sweetie, I said next to Shaw he may be the least expensive.
"In a dog eat dog world, you must have the mentality of a Pit Bull." -Phil Jackson
by waltbabyluv on May 24, 2011 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL, do we know each other?
Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't lose. - Bill Gates
Yes, I'm smug, withholding, and judgmental, but at least I'm better than you. - Anonymous
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Not likely.
"In a dog eat dog world, you must have the mentality of a Pit Bull." -Phil Jackson
by waltbabyluv on May 24, 2011 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I wasn't sure. Just wondering about the sweetie.
Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't lose. - Bill Gates
Yes, I'm smug, withholding, and judgmental, but at least I'm better than you. - Anonymous
Tweetness: @SoCalGal64
SoCalGal seemed like a female username. I was being polite, I wasn’t trying to offend you or make you feel uncomfortable, sorry.
"In a dog eat dog world, you must have the mentality of a Pit Bull." -Phil Jackson
by waltbabyluv on May 24, 2011 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL, it actually came across as condescending. But no worries.
Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't lose. - Bill Gates
Yes, I'm smug, withholding, and judgmental, but at least I'm better than you. - Anonymous
Tweetness: @SoCalGal64
Just correcting you politely that’s all, but cool no worries.
"In a dog eat dog world, you must have the mentality of a Pit Bull." -Phil Jackson
by waltbabyluv on May 24, 2011 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay, so slow down a bit guys
Brown isn’t VDN, Dunleavy, or a completely terrible coach. In fact, you could argue he was a pretty solid coach. So it’s not the end of the world in that regard. He’s not my first (or second or third) choice, but it’s still a fairly good hire.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Since when has pretty good been something that we live with in Laker land
Making it to the second round of the playoffs is a pretty good season, by league standards
lol
i assure you they did not. They settled for it and realized oh shit we made a mistake
These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson
The key to championships = SIGN LUTHER HEAD!!!!!!!!
I agree with that
I’m just saying that this isn’t deserving of mass panic. If we were hiring Dunleavy, then we could go overboard, but Brown isn’t deserving of that.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Right? And look how disappointed we, including Lakers management, are about that?
Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't lose. - Bill Gates
Yes, I'm smug, withholding, and judgmental, but at least I'm better than you. - Anonymous
Tweetness: @SoCalGal64
Its a bit hard to swallow since there are still better guys out there in the market..
Always Lurking. Always. Yes.
Tim Duncan wins championships. Vince Carters fills the arenas.
Kobe Bryant does both. -- from some Yahoo! column, I think it was Steve Kerr.
The ideal way to win a championship is step by step.
-Phil Jackson
Yea, you're right.
I’ll let Twitter take it from here:
At least Mike Brown only has to change the name of his end-of-game play by one number, from Iso-23 to Iso-24. #MikeBrownPositives
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by bluexfalcon on May 24, 2011 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
in all seriousness though
He’s a D-fensive minded coach right?
We were a top 10 defense last year. He doesn’t fix our problems
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by bluexfalcon on May 24, 2011 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
They were the worst defense in the playoff this year though.
"In a dog eat dog world, you must have the mentality of a Pit Bull." -Phil Jackson
by waltbabyluv on May 24, 2011 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Our problems were bad personnel offensively
While Phil was outcoached, our players just werent good enough offensively.
No 3-point shooters hurts in the playoffs.
how does a coach who made his offense work on 3-pt shooters
fix an offense without ANY 3-pt shooters
These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson
The key to championships = SIGN LUTHER HEAD!!!!!!!!
Nominally, yes
Execution-wise, doubtful. Brown does improve on that; most of our post-ASG defensive resurgence was effort and Bynum going nuts. I never really felt the execution was there, so Brown does bring that. I simply think that JVG is a better technician than him on that end, but it’s probably a wash.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
aye, agreed
"Phil Jackson seems to enjoy his status as 'NBA grand philosopher' and uses that platform to lob verbal hand grenades into other franchises or the league offices for fun." - Kurt Helin
"Please remember: it's not my fault your team sucks." - DexterFishmore
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It really depends on Kobe
LeBron had no trust in any of his teammates, particularly at the end of games. Kobe doesnt so much, but more than LeBron.
though nothing's officially finalized, i just can't help feeling like the lakers are settling. yeah, we could do a lot worse than mike brown, but still.
basketball doesn't build character, it reveals it
We're slowly going through the stages of grief:
1. Shock
2. Denial
3. Anger
4. Depression
5. Acceptance
Most of us are either at stage 2 or 5
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
Five; I've gotten over it
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
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IM GOING IN CIRCLES
"Phil Jackson seems to enjoy his status as 'NBA grand philosopher' and uses that platform to lob verbal hand grenades into other franchises or the league offices for fun." - Kurt Helin
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6: Fuck it
Faith is remaining certain in the face of doubt. You’re not sure how it’s going to end, but you’re constantly of the belief that it will end the way you want it to and the way you always believed it to end, and that’s on top - Derek Fisher
by lakergirl on May 25, 2011 7:14 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol
re’d
"E-Coaches are heavy in here tonight! Take E-Sasha and put him on the E-bench on your fantasy league, that’ll show him!" - Jevon O
i mean rec'd, damn it
"E-Coaches are heavy in here tonight! Take E-Sasha and put him on the E-bench on your fantasy league, that’ll show him!" - Jevon O
I'm at 4, btw
"E-Coaches are heavy in here tonight! Take E-Sasha and put him on the E-bench on your fantasy league, that’ll show him!" - Jevon O
Staying at 2
Will be starting a petition, all I need is some time off work to start it
"Hardwork beats talent when talent fails to work hard"-Norm Nixon
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be committed against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the Limelight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
I'm on it so let's tweet: @B_M_Bizness
by BrittneyM on May 25, 2011 3:12 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
JVG for head coach, Mark Jackson for assistant coach
by doublemint on May 24, 2011 10:30 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
ROFL
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
What's really going on here
Whatever positives that Mike Brown could bring that could be completely rendered moot if Kobe doesnt accept him. I could see passing up Shaw for the more experienced Adelman but to pass up Shaw for Mike Brown? I get the feeling this has less to do with Mike Brown and more to do with Jim Buss and his feud with Phil Jackson. Because Phil endorsed Shaw I suppose it makes sense for Jimmy boy to reject Shaw to spite Phil, especially when you consider Phil’s recent comments that Jeannie could do a better job running the team or something to that affect.
I dont know about that
I do agree that the offense by and large willl depend on what Kobe is willing to do/sacrifice. There were times that the Cavs offense worked fine without LeBron dominating the ball, but he just couldnt bear to give it up at the ends of games, and it killed them a lot.
Kobe is willing to do whatever is necessary
But Kobe has 5 rings. Kobe wasnt really completely sold on Rudy Tomjanovic had he had 2 rings as a coach. Mike Brown may not stand a chance. Kobe is older now and he really doesnt have years to waste on petty stuff like not getting along with a coach but Mike Brown is going to have to have one helluva sales pitch to throw at Kobe and Fisher.
Best case scenario?
This is just a negotiating move by Mitch. Pressure Adelman into taking less $$ for the job.
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
I hope that is the case
It would be nice if they came on this site for fan feed back, then realize that he is not liked in Laker Land, and then they hire Adelman. I mean, if the Lakers struggle out of the gate, he is going to get grilled!!
Since you playing ball let me show you how I put my "D" down........ Rebound!!! Your man dropped the ball and I caught it, Im trying to Lay-up in ur body, ya Im ballin!!!
by BIGBO on May 24, 2011 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'll be furious if this whole time, Adelman was only "demanding" $6 mil/year
basketball doesn't build character, it reveals it
big thumbs up on "them"
coming here. Then Jim Buss will experience the internet equivalent of someone being shaken till his teeth rattles
"E-Coaches are heavy in here tonight! Take E-Sasha and put him on the E-bench on your fantasy league, that’ll show him!" - Jevon O
When Woj is reporting, it's probably legitimate
If it was just something in the LAT, then I’d believe your statement, but that’s not the case here.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Woj = Mafia
Dude is legit men
Faith is remaining certain in the face of doubt. You’re not sure how it’s going to end, but you’re constantly of the belief that it will end the way you want it to and the way you always believed it to end, and that’s on top - Derek Fisher
yeah me 2......
It is what it is……
Since you playing ball let me show you how I put my "D" down........ Rebound!!! Your man dropped the ball and I caught it, Im trying to Lay-up in ur body, ya Im ballin!!!
I am, too.
Always Lurking. Always. Yes.
Tim Duncan wins championships. Vince Carters fills the arenas.
Kobe Bryant does both. -- from some Yahoo! column, I think it was Steve Kerr.
The ideal way to win a championship is step by step.
-Phil Jackson
Me too. It's hilarious how accurate the five stages of grief are.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
lmao, if I look at my posts from the start of the thread, I'm definitely going through all the stages of grief. Hilarious.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
i am very curious as to how mike brown would do as lakers coach. i don’t think i’d be disappointed if he were named our coach. he was rather successful as the cavs hc in spite of a roster composed of overachievers. he’s still young, would be hungry, rested, and with a fresh perspective. wasn’t my number one choice, but idk, something tells me go for it.
"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."
Im taking my disappointed ass to bed
This is too much for me right now! The Bulls chocking against the Heat, and now this mess!
Since you playing ball let me show you how I put my "D" down........ Rebound!!! Your man dropped the ball and I caught it, Im trying to Lay-up in ur body, ya Im ballin!!!
ITs been a min since i came on but
WHAT THE FUUUUUCCCCCKKKK. HELLLLLLL NOOOOOO BSAW BETTER BE THE ASS COACH ok sry rant over
by Blackmamba81024 on May 24, 2011 10:40 PM PDT reply actions
stage 1
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
New story: Lakers have finalized interview process and Mike Brown has emerged as leading candidate http://es.pn/lwensM
The Los Angeles Lakers have moved passed the interview phase of their head coaching search and have narrowed down the field of candidates they will consider extending an offer to, according to multiple sources with knowledge of the situation.
The leading names on the Lakers coaching list are former Cleveland Cavaliers front man and current ESPN analyst Mike Brown; Rick Adelman, who recently parted ways with the Houston Rockets; and Brian Shaw, who has been a Lakers assistant coach since 2004, according to sources.
In an interview with Sirius XM Radio on Tuesday, Lakers owner Dr. Jerry Buss characterized the team as being “very close” to filling its coaching vacancy.
Brown’s candidacy has started to pick up steam and the 2008-09 NBA Coach of the Year has emerged as the front runner as he has already talked salary figures with the team, according to ESPN the Magazine’s Chris Broussard.
Sources told Broussard that while a deal could be struck as early as Wednesday, it’s also possible a deal will not happen if Brown does not get enough security — in terms of years and money — to empower him as coach.
No formal offer has been extended to Brown however, according to an individual with knowledge of the negotiating process.
At least one source close to the process said he believed the Lakers might prefer one candidate right now, but “it might be a game of chicken” and the team could move on to another candidate very quickly if negotiations do not go well.
Maybe Brown will pull a Trevor Ariza and flinch. Then the Lakers will move on before he has time to catch his breath.
Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't lose. - Bill Gates
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by SoCalGal on May 24, 2011 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I really am curious to know what it is about Mike Brown (cheap? desperate? blackmail?) that won over the Busses. Or conversely, what exactly it was about Adelman (did he ask for another $1 million?) or Shaw (we h8 phil lulz) that lost their shots.
basketball doesn't build character, it reveals it
I'll tell you what it is
Phil endorsed Shaw. Jim Buss and Phil have had a long standing feud or whatever you want to call it. Not hiring Shaw was done to spite Phil. As far as Adelman goes I’m not sure, maybe it was his age. Letting Shaw walk was Jimmy boy’s final F U to Phil. Jimmy boy did one smart thing (drafting Andrew Bynum) and he thinks he’s a basketball genius.
How could not hiring Shaw affect Phil in any way? Phil has his rings, his records, and most improtantly his money that he’s about to start enjoying spending in retirement. The only person who’ll be upset about Shaw not getting the job is Shaw, no one else will shed a tear for him, especially not Phil Jackson.
"In a dog eat dog world, you must have the mentality of a Pit Bull." -Phil Jackson
by waltbabyluv on May 24, 2011 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
It doesnt affect Phil at all
But Jim Buss wants to put his stamp on this team now. Anything remotely resembling Phil Jackson will now be purged. He wants to prove that he can take this team back to the top with his decision making. This is his first big test. Problem is Mike Brown may never gain the trust of Kobe Bryant and if that ends up being the case this will not go well.
As long as the Lakers win under Brown I’d imagine everything will be fine between Kobe and Mike.
"In a dog eat dog world, you must have the mentality of a Pit Bull." -Phil Jackson
by waltbabyluv on May 24, 2011 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions
SVG has a job in Orlando.
Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't lose. - Bill Gates
Yes, I'm smug, withholding, and judgmental, but at least I'm better than you. - Anonymous
Tweetness: @SoCalGal64
Kevin Arnovitz, Rob Mahoney, and John Schuhmann like the hire
I’m feeling better about it.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
LOL @ SCG's reply
Always Lurking. Always. Yes.
Tim Duncan wins championships. Vince Carters fills the arenas.
Kobe Bryant does both. -- from some Yahoo! column, I think it was Steve Kerr.
The ideal way to win a championship is step by step.
-Phil Jackson
I guess better late than never in coming grips with the situation.
Interested to see what defensive schemes he throws out, and will be interested to see what his offense looks like (he no longer has the excuse of saying he had no legit weapons to use). On a side note, I actually hope that he’s a bit more active about developing young players/rookies (Ebanks, Caracter, whomever we draft in the 2nd round and keep)
basketball doesn't build character, it reveals it
Lets just get somebody hired so they can get to work immediately and get us back to winning championships.
"In a dog eat dog world, you must have the mentality of a Pit Bull." -Phil Jackson
by waltbabyluv on May 24, 2011 10:47 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Mike Brown has some big shoes to Phil!
Since you playing ball let me show you how I put my "D" down........ Rebound!!! Your man dropped the ball and I caught it, Im trying to Lay-up in ur body, ya Im ballin!!!
Man I cant go to sleep!!!
Im all Jacked up on Mountain Dew!!!
Since you playing ball let me show you how I put my "D" down........ Rebound!!! Your man dropped the ball and I caught it, Im trying to Lay-up in ur body, ya Im ballin!!!
Step away from the Dew!
Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't lose. - Bill Gates
Yes, I'm smug, withholding, and judgmental, but at least I'm better than you. - Anonymous
Tweetness: @SoCalGal64
do push ups
that’ll tire you out
Then read about Euclid’s Lemma. That’ll bore you to sleep.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euclid’s_lemma
THE CAVS SHALL RISE AGAIN...
BEAT THE HEAT.
Wow really wtf!
"If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bullsh*t."
"A Freudian slip is when you say one thing but mean your mother."
"He who laughs last thinks slowest."
I just had the weirdest dream
that Mike Brown became the Lakers coach. Thank God I woke up, it was horrible. The Lakeshow ran out and destroyed the league, winning 73 regular season games and then got swept in the first round by Golden State, coached by B Shaw. Thank God not even one part of that dream could possibly be true.
Wait wait.
What did Dex just say?
"No harm, no foul, no blood, no ambulance, no stitches." - Chicky Baby
For a second I thought the person in your avatar was Geno Auriemma.
THE CAVS SHALL RISE AGAIN...
BEAT THE HEAT.
The entire GSWarrior's community wants to Thank you very much!
Whew! It could have been us. Instead, welcome home and back to the bay Brian.
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by skeptic von urquell on May 24, 2011 11:26 PM PDT reply actions
This entire off-season has been ruined for us :(
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
He is not bad, its not what we all expected.
This came from out of no where. A lot of reports had Adelman with one foot in the door. And then Mike Brown comes in and interviews and then BOOM! Its like wow, never expected that
Since you playing ball let me show you how I put my "D" down........ Rebound!!! Your man dropped the ball and I caught it, Im trying to Lay-up in ur body, ya Im ballin!!!
He is completely brain-dead on offense.
His defense is good, but our defense has always been good, so hiring him doesn’t address our needs.
Also, you could make the case that his “success” with the Cavs was mostly due to Lebron.
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
I think "mostly" is an understatement
Lebron was the offense 100%
Since you playing ball let me show you how I put my "D" down........ Rebound!!! Your man dropped the ball and I caught it, Im trying to Lay-up in ur body, ya Im ballin!!!
Our D used to be good
Brown might be what we need to get back to decent D, but he brings nothing else — unless he’s stuffing a fast PG and a couple of outside shooters in his luggage.
Former LakersForDeuce: "The 2010 champs made me up the ante and change my name!"
by LakersForTrey on May 24, 2011 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
our defense declined last year. we couldn't execute in the fourth quarter and we were atrocious in last minutes of the game.
besides our offense was better than our defense . Our offense this season was better than when we won the chip last year. I don’t understand why we are still complaining that.
(SCANDALS OR NOT WE SHOULD OF BEEN ABLE TO PLAY)(no excuses…) -God himself
imagine it's christmas. you've been waiting all year and telling your parents the past 365 days exactly what it is you want. you open all the presents. none of them were what you wanted.
kinda like that.
basketball doesn't build character, it reveals it
It's not that he is bad it is just that Mike Brown = Joe Girardi
I am more upset that Jerry Buss has turned the operations over to his incompetent oldest son who wants to prove to dad that he can run a business by running out of town anything related to Phil Jackson (just as Steinbrenner’s kid did with Joe Torre) and then build the team around injury-prone Andrew Bynum (instead of going after someone better like Dwight Howard or Chris Paul).
"Hey, the talk before was that I couldn't do it without Shaq. Well, I did that. And then I did it again."
- The Black Mamba (and don't think he won't do it again)
Fuck Fairness. Fuck Happy Endings. Fuck Bad PR. Fuck Losing. Fuck Guarding 3-point Shooters. These are the tenets of the Black Mamba.
- C.A. Clark (well, except for the last one .. I added that)
I highly doubt Kobe is talking to that guy
Since you playing ball let me show you how I put my "D" down........ Rebound!!! Your man dropped the ball and I caught it, Im trying to Lay-up in ur body, ya Im ballin!!!
by BIGBO on May 24, 2011 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
In other some-what Lakers related news
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/news/story?id=6584260
You follow me, I'll follow you
http://ayeyooojerm.tumblr.com/
SF GIants Baseball 2011 = Torture Pt. 2
Can this day get any worse???
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
Only 20 mins left in the day.
DO YOUR WORST!!!!
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
Don't want any of them
Phil spoiled us and, if course, whoever the next guy is he won’t measure up at all. Okay, I get that.
But Adelman at 65 is a short-term option, and he’s not going to kno9ck anyone’s socks off. I can’t see the Lakers hiring him, unless it’s to groom the real successor.
Van Gundy? Don’t think so.
Shaw would have already been hired if the Lakers wanted him.
Mike Brown? (sigh) I hope not.
I’m not excited about any of them. Not a one.
If Coach K took the job, then there would be interest. But he’s not coming to L.A.
So, who then?
All I can hope is that Buss is putting out a smokescreen and is working a super deal with someone who will put a big smile on the faces of us SS&R inhabitants.
Otherwise, I think the Kobe era ends very, very quietly.
Former LakersForDeuce: "The 2010 champs made me up the ante and change my name!"
#TeamAdelman
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
So you would prefer a coach who doesn't emphasize on defense?
You follow me, I'll follow you
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SF GIants Baseball 2011 = Torture Pt. 2
Adelman's teams have been decent on defense.
The main reason why I want Adelman is that his offense is very similar to the Triangle, which means less drastic trades.
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
team JVG. seems like he wasn't in contention though
(SCANDALS OR NOT WE SHOULD OF BEEN ABLE TO PLAY)(no excuses…) -God himself
read a slew of mike brown rant tweets by "johnnybarry" that dexter RTed. count me as being down on mike brown again. ugh.
basketball doesn't build character, it reveals it
This was the 1st thing I read, after seeing the Hangover 2.
really killed my mood
by Fin Fan Forever on May 24, 2011 11:50 PM PDT reply actions
i really dont like brown
fuck id rather have don nelson or keith smart or ew lawrence frank
Kobe: "Listen, if you told me at the beginning of the year that we’ve got two games at home to win a championship, yeah, I’ll take that shit"
now you trippin
i don’t really know how to feel about this. Part of me is hopeful that we will run a suffocating defense again but part of me can’t forget that mike brown always look like a deer in headlights during his playoffs series. This can either be genius or a gigantic facepalm.
(SCANDALS OR NOT WE SHOULD OF BEEN ABLE TO PLAY)(no excuses…) -God himself
Frank maybe, those other two are terrible
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
lakers are obviously throing away next season
then getting d12 and cp3. then who cares who the next coach is bc if you dont win with that lineup, you shoould never be allowed to be around a basketball again
Kobe: "Listen, if you told me at the beginning of the year that we’ve got two games at home to win a championship, yeah, I’ll take that shit"
come on man
don’t perpetuate that bullshit. Great players don’t always win rings.
(SCANDALS OR NOT WE SHOULD OF BEEN ABLE TO PLAY)(no excuses…) -God himself
LA Times Update
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-lakers-coach-20110525,0,6301668.story?track=rss&dlvrit=53290
Please remember: it's not my fault your team sucks.
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by DexterFishmore on May 25, 2011 12:20 AM PDT reply actions
Jim Buss had better know what he's doing.
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
This is it?
Here we go.
"Phil Jackson seems to enjoy his status as 'NBA grand philosopher' and uses that platform to lob verbal hand grenades into other franchises or the league offices for fun." - Kurt Helin
"Please remember: it's not my fault your team sucks." - DexterFishmore
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Spurs fan here
Mike Brown is a Spurs product and the only thing I’m confident of vouching for is that he’ll definitely improve the defense.
Other than that, he might need an assistant who can shoulder the bulk of offensive play calling — maybe Shaw and some of Phil’s leftover assistants can still help in that regard? He’s also definitely not PJ in terms of managing egos, although his work and relationship with LeBron seemed more attributable to Dan Gilbert ordering everybody to bow down to LBJ’s every whim.
Overall, definitely a risky move that would undoubtedly pay huge dividends if it works (and if Kobe approves).
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on May 25, 2011 12:38 AM PDT reply actions
Shaw is probably going after the warriors HC job
which means we are probably left with Hamblen or some other assistant to orchestrate the offense.
I think the enabling from Gilbert was big
LeBron was able to do whatever he wanted and Brown couldn’t really do anything about it.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Which leaves his player management skills a big question mark. It’s going to be tough for anybody handling Kobe, Artest, Drew and Gasol at the same time.
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s what happens while you wait for moments that will never come." - Lester Freamon, The Wire
by silverandblack_davis on May 25, 2011 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes and no
On one hand, I think Brown was in a rather unenviable situation. He was a rookie coach dealing with a superstar who had management under this thumb, dictated personnel moves, and probably could have gotten Brown fired if he tried to stand up to him. Even if he had tried, it’s doubtful that he had the clout to stand up to LeBron or Gilbert and get away with it. And he still got some pretty good returns out of a flawed roster that Ferry mismanaged with some poor signings and trades. Conversely, as you said, he has to have some complicity in all of it, and that reputation might precede him.
Personally, I don’t think it’s that much of a problem because the focus of this team is inherently different and while there are strong personalities on the team, I don’t think anything will sour unless the team starts losing, which you could probably say for any of these coaches.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
i go to sleep and the titanic sinks :(
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by Czheck on May 25, 2011 12:43 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
are you a dragon? do you sleep for a century or so?
(SCANDALS OR NOT WE SHOULD OF BEEN ABLE TO PLAY)(no excuses…) -God himself
by Madz on May 25, 2011 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
If this is a taste of the Jim Buss era to come...
…someone call me in 30-50 years after it’s over.
"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec
by deadmuse on May 25, 2011 12:59 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
this makes we want to revisit the trade thread 1 and 2
still likes dex and the d12 trade, or a combination of it plus some supplementary moves
this brown gig with security might be a sign of long-term changes
Jerry Buss quoted
as saying there will not be any big moves, only a few tweaks to the roster.
"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec
There are a lot of worse coaches in the league,
But this is like putting BBQ sauce on a lobster.
by Derek Fisher Fan on May 25, 2011 1:32 AM PDT reply actions 8 recs
Rec'd
Please remember: it's not my fault your team sucks.
Twitter feed: @dexterfishmore
by DexterFishmore on May 25, 2011 1:46 AM PDT up reply actions
that sounds okay though
"If somebody had their life on the line, and they’ve got their options on who they want to save their life — tell me who you’re going to pick? You’re going to look at the stats first?" - Kobe Bryant
by desecrator09 on May 25, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Wow.
2nd round sweep and a coach who is the laughing stock of the league. Yikes.
by EazyMac on May 25, 2011 1:39 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Why I don't want Brown ???
Well history shows he clings onto his star nuts and never tells him when he is wrong, I need a coach who is able to handle the team as a team and able to tell Kobe when he is wrong
"Hardwork beats talent when talent fails to work hard"-Norm Nixon
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be committed against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the Limelight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
I'm on it so let's tweet: @B_M_Bizness
by BrittneyM on May 25, 2011 4:30 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Would
Charles Barkley and Kenny Smith be a good coaching tandem in this league?
Er, no.
Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't lose. - Bill Gates
Yes, I'm smug, withholding, and judgmental, but at least I'm better than you. - Anonymous
Tweetness: @SoCalGal64
This makes Shaw a frontrunner in Oakland
and pretty much guaranteed to leave. I’m sure Jerry West’s first official act will be to endorse hiring Shaw. If that’s the case, I wish him the best.
"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec
At least Kim Kardashian is engaged
#WGAF
Faith is remaining certain in the face of doubt. You’re not sure how it’s going to end, but you’re constantly of the belief that it will end the way you want it to and the way you always believed it to end, and that’s on top - Derek Fisher
WTF! C'mon! When I first heard this a couple of days ago I couldn't believe it
This decision is bullshit. I know it hasn’t happened yet but if it does someone pls sock me in the face.
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
been a bad month my friend
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You have no idea
Yes it has. : )
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
If Mike Brown could coach that fool and lesser talent to at least the level of our success we had this year, I say why not?
I wonder how much of this is actual criticism of Brown as a coach and how much of it is us feeling like we don’t want a coach that feels like LeBron’s sloppy seconds?
"Winning takes talent; to repeat takes character." - John Wooden
it has been reported that kobe was surprised about this.
yeah. not surprising at all. i didn’t really want jim buss from the start. he’s just screwing the team
"There's no I in TEAM, but there is I in WINNING." - Air Jordan
uhhhh
"This team is going to win regardless of if I get 15 points or if I get four points. That’s the kind of team we are," he said. "But this team won’t win if we don’t have defensive toughness on the inside. I just think that’s the biggest thing I can bring." – Andrew Bynum
Sigh; I have a very bad feeling about this
I never had much faith in Jim Buss before, and this Mike Brown hiring is not helping :(
Why would you take Brown over Adelman? Not even for the youth factor, would I do it.
Wouldn’t it have been better to have hired Adleman (an expert with veteran teams) for the next three years and taken a shot at one last hurrah with this veteran group, and then in 2014 when all the current big-expense contracts come off the books, at that point….when you’re under the cap, and when your roster is no longer stacked with 30-somethings, THEN you go out and hire the young, energetic coach who will hopefully stay with you for multiple years??? (And even then (in 2014) I would have hired Brian Shaw before Mike Brown!) If this hiring is any indication of Laker franchise future, I’m starting to be seriously worried.
by SmokeAndAshes on May 25, 2011 9:09 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Exactly
The “We wanted a long term coach who was young” angle is so, so empty. It’s a virtual lock that the next head coach won’t survive the post-Kobe transition
i asked the same thing yesterday
nobody really has any idea
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
So basically the job is his if he wants it
let’s all pool our money and pay Mike Brown NOT to take the job.
So pardon my disposition; why should I listen to a system that never listened to me?
My goodness folks, calm down! Those people who run the Laker organization have been doing this stuff for years! They have brought you the 2nd greatest amount of championships in the history of the league, 5 with our boy at the helm! Maybe they know something us fans don’t know about Brown, and as many have suggested he probably didn’t have a lot of options with LeBron on the team. I wouldn’t mind seeing JVG as coach, especially if it gets him off his god awful commentating! But it hasn’t happened yet, so hang in there! I’m betting that they have run it past Kobe and maybe even Phil and they have no problem with him, I betcha! Anyway, after the coach, the Lakers need a whole new bench and a legitimate point guard, even more than they need some high level coach. IMO
The person running this particular show has not been doing anything good for years, hence the mass hysteria.
Before Jerry Buss put Jim Buss in Lakers front office he spent 9 yrs training horses and previous 5 yrs as president of indoor soccer team.
The only good thing he’s done is insist on drafting Andrew Bynum. His other awesome idea was hiring Rudy T to replace Phil Jackson in 2004. That worked out beautifully, so pardon my skepticism.
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how come they came up with this decision?
id rather have JVG if they are looking for defense. :(
i’m new here and this site is great!
JVG! JVG!
Seriously, JVG is a wasted talent doing commentary. He should be manning the sidelines, doing X’s and O’s.
I hope MIke Brown signing is just a smoke behind the real “JVG” signing :))
Welcome to SS&R!
Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't lose. - Bill Gates
Yes, I'm smug, withholding, and judgmental, but at least I'm better than you. - Anonymous
Tweetness: @SoCalGal64
welcome and you make a very good pt
fuck JVG would have been awesome.
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
Oh yeah welcome to ssr
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by BrittneyM on May 25, 2011 3:24 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
none of the candidates really excited me anyways
either way they’re all a big step down from Phil, meaning Adelman, Shaw and Brown. Put those in whatever order you want but I don’t think the difference between them is big anyways. Just deal with the new hire and I think we should worry more about our aging personell than the coach.
"If somebody had their life on the line, and they’ve got their options on who they want to save their life — tell me who you’re going to pick? You’re going to look at the stats first?" - Kobe Bryant
i hate his ass too
"If somebody had their life on the line, and they’ve got their options on who they want to save their life — tell me who you’re going to pick? You’re going to look at the stats first?" - Kobe Bryant
by desecrator09 on May 25, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
i'd rather have joey buss run this team
"If somebody had their life on the line, and they’ve got their options on who they want to save their life — tell me who you’re going to pick? You’re going to look at the stats first?" - Kobe Bryant
by desecrator09 on May 25, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Lmao
"Hardwork beats talent when talent fails to work hard"-Norm Nixon
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be committed against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the Limelight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
I'm on it so let's tweet: @B_M_Bizness
by BrittneyM on May 25, 2011 3:16 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
i never had a feeling of jim buss from the start.
and do you honestly want a coach who was once a laughing stock to coach this team??
seriously? should’ve hired adelman and get a pg who can penetrate with the bigs waiting a pass.
"There's no I in TEAM, but there is I in WINNING." - Air Jordan
oh. my. god.
I’ve been without internet for the last week (due to moving) just now logged on to SSR and all my usual haunts and this is the news I see? Oh dear goodness.
I just got my Internet back working at home also we just
Moved Sunday bit yeah this is some bull
"Hardwork beats talent when talent fails to work hard"-Norm Nixon
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be committed against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the Limelight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
I'm on it so let's tweet: @B_M_Bizness
by BrittneyM on May 25, 2011 3:23 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
We'll finally see if....
Brown can win in the post season when his star player doesn’t quit on him.
by Mighty Big Mouse on May 25, 2011 12:13 PM PDT reply actions
Jim Buss
is taking a wrecking ball to the greatest NBA franchise there is. Prepare for 5 years of mediocrity and 8th seed finishes.
OMG, hell has frozen over. I actually agree with Bill Plashke.
Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't lose. - Bill Gates
Yes, I'm smug, withholding, and judgmental, but at least I'm better than you. - Anonymous
Tweetness: @SoCalGal64
Awe man it's hot in atl but I might be feeling the chill as well
Because that makes 2 of us, I ain’t even following dude on twitter but he has a point wtf Jimmy buss???
"Hardwork beats talent when talent fails to work hard"-Norm Nixon
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be committed against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the Limelight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
I'm on it so let's tweet: @B_M_Bizness
by BrittneyM on May 25, 2011 3:22 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
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