All-Purpose Trade Scenarios FanPost

There is no sense in keeping him on the roster when he’s glued to bench because he is virtually ineffective. He’s deadweight.

from realistic senarios, to wth! senarios, it should make up for the loss were all feeling now. btw socalgal, c.a….be prepared for about 10,000 posts! lol.this post should be up for a while.

Beyond Kobe, Pau, Bynum and Odom

The Lakers don’t really have any trade assets.

I mean Barnes + Steve Blake + Luke Walton for CP3 is just not going to happen.

That Pau for nothing (at the time) set a precedent in peoples minds and now they are assuming that will happen all the time for the Lakers.

Yeah trade for a 22 year old who can’t stay off the surgery table, oh yeah trade the 31 year old who avgs 6 pts one game but 25 the next…but then 6 again; WAIT i got it! Trade they all star PF who forgot how to play basketball when his team needed him the most! Wait! u still have CRAZY old RON RON yeah because a lot of teams would trade for him….

Trade, trade, trade. We lost./ Everyone down on the big men, we won the last 2 championships. I hated losing this year, but Im not hitting the panic button. Barnes, Walton….Guys like that can go, but LO, KB, PG and AB need to stay and give it a try with the new coach. STill very talented team, if it dosent work here, then try and get Howard in the offseason next year, but we’ll be fine.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3fsw9le

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3bb5app

Why for the Magic? This trade almost makes sense even if Howard doesn’t want out. Bass goes to New Orleans since we have Gasol at the Forward. We get rid of the immovable object that is Gil’s contract by packaging him with Howard and get back Bynum and Gasol. The trade generally breaks down as Gasol, Bynum and Arenas Cap relief in exchange for Howard. This to me is fair value for Howard. And the Magic would have a team that would go at least as far as the one this year did- with the added benefit of cap room once these contracts go if not extended.

Why for the Hornets? The Hornets would still have a team that sells since it has Kobe Bryant in the starting lineup. They also get Blake to come in as their starting or back up pg to soften losing Paul. Blake, Bryant, Ariza, Bass, Random Defensive Center is not built to win Championships. But it is a team built to happily allow Bryant 40 shots a night while defending well. Probably around an 8th seed, where the hornets are now, but selling way more tickets.

Why for the Lakers? For starters, Kobe’s Contract is 24 million a year. Kobe has declined a ton, despite the blathering of millions including himself that say he hasn’t. At his price, I don’t see how the lakers free the cap room to build a contender. He’s simply not worth that amount of money to a team that is trying to build for a Championship. It works out as sending away the cost of Kobe Bryant, for the cost of Arenas and Okafor. This seems like a horrible Idea, but it is the absorption of these 2 contracts that allow the lakers to put Chris Paul and Dwight Howard on the same team. And they’ll be favorites the second they are, make no mistake about it.

Addtionally, their lineup would like this:

Chris Paul/Arenas

Jarret Jack/Shannon Brown

Artest/Walton/Barnes

Odom/Okafor

Howard/Okafor/Odom

I don’t consider myself an expert, but I think most people would agree that team is nearly the best defensive and offensive team in the league at the same time. Everyone in the league would once again be re-tooling to deal with the lakers, who once again are bigger than everyone else, with the best guard in the league on the wings. Time to enjoy some more rings.

Bynum for Jeff Teague, Zaza Pachulia and Marvin Williams.

The Hawks would have to take that simply because they got this far into the postseason (second round) without Teague. Adding Bynum would push Horford into his natural power forward position and the team would have a decent shot at breaking the league record for team blocks with Josh Smith thrown in.

The Lakers would get the young, speedy, talented point guard they haven’t had for 20 years (seriously, are any of you watching what he’s doing to the MVP stud in, albeit, flashes of this series) and an amusing bench center for Gasol who tends to spark the Hawks bench in the playoffs.

Disclaimer: I had to throw in Marvin Williams out of salary cap necessity. Cut him, trade him back to ATL, I don’t care. The Hawks are pretty tired of him at this point and he forever remains their draft bust. Think of it as our Kwame-like homecoming.

Another disclaimer: To all you crazy, spoiled people going for CP3 — I like our roster fine as is and will defend that bench more than most fans. That’s why I make the simple change and only subtract one. Besides, we’re already getting a new coach. To get CP3, we’d have to blow up our roster and I just can’t. There are so, so many young, talented PGs out there. And they’re cheap! Why strive for only the $uper$tars who leave us maxed out and identity-less? Let’s get Teague!

The reason Bynum leaving is a distant possibility is that even Lakers haters have to admit the team is pretty damn loyal (look at Derek Fisher, for god’s sake…how many quality franchises would have permitted his demise in the starting rotation?) and that would be royally screwing over Bynum. They over-groomed him into his position and he’s had to eat humble pie on the bench under Phil’s watch for years in the closing minutes.

To trade him now would be like a child happily destroying the giant Lego tower they’ve been building for months in their room. Kupchak is more the quiet, methodical kid. Bynum would have been awkwardly rushed into his prominence by every other team in the league and would have even worse discipline than he has now. Committing the same stupid fouls Howard does. (Talking about the consistent game fouls not those five-game suspenders he only occasionally throws out like CA mentioned.) Perhaps he’d be a better center at this point in his career on another team but not a potential legend he could become for the Lakers.

With all that written, I’d take this trade in a heartbeat.

Trade Bynum for Chris Paul

Trade Artest, Blake, Caracter, Ebanks, Walton and Joe Smith for Jordan Crowford, Nick Young and Javel Magee

Trash Theo Ratliff bring back DJ Tacos

The Warriors are in desperate need for a legit center. Bynum is legit. However, is this too lopsided?

How about

David Lee, Monta & Jeremy Lin for Gasol & Artest?

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=5vmlrlr

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3l2vr6w

I like the Stephon Curry, David Lee, + draft pick package. We got Bynum to make up for Lee’s defensive shortcomings and we have a knock down shooter at the one.

If Bynum is the one traded, then I’d shift to an Iguodala, Williams, +draft picks type deal.

that sounds like our best trade partner actually

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3o5qg9j

I don’t expect any major moves.

The bench will get a makeover but it will probably be cosmetic. Unless Brown opts out, there may not be any change at all in rotation players, since Barnes is probably going to pick up his option.

From there, we know Luke is here to stay. Joe Smith is probably gone. I hear Theo Ratliff wants to come back and really he doesn’t cost the Lakers anything to keep on. Ebanks will be back. Lakers have a team option on Caracter that they are probably going to exercise. There is conflicting information on the salary sites but apparently the Lakers have an option on Trey Johnson (not sure if they’re going to take it or not).

The Lakers will surely add someone in the offseason with the MLE

So, at worst the Lakers will have 4 roster spots open, but only 2 of those will make the active roster.

The Lakers have 3 second round draft picks, and the talent that will be available in the second round this year is not all that impressive. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Lakers package those picks together for a role player who will take the role Sasha used to have. But I think examining the roster this is probably the only trade that actually happens.

LOL

…hint, it doesn’t involve Bynum

W/ 76s
Gasol for Brand and Holiday

I think both teams will benefit. The 76s will be able to have a lead player while the Lakers fill their biggest weakness while not downgrading at PF as much. There would probably be some draft picks involved.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4y7aj3q

it is also possible to get rid of Luke’s contract
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3spvkn4

what do you guys think.

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Then sign Jason Kapono, Jason Richardson, or Sasha Vujačić for MLE. Then, sign T Mac or Patty Mills for BAE.

Don’t see Orlando caving to the Lakers on this.

In light of Minny and Gasol (combine Gasol and Rubio from Spanish team and maybe they get Calderon to play with them too…)

Minny: PGasol, DEbanks
LAL: RFelton, #2 pick (Williams), MBeasley, JFlynn, TMosgov, ATolliver
DEN: RArtest, SBlake, NPekovic

PG: RFelton, JFlynn, DFisher
SG: Kobe, SBrown
SF: DWilliams, MBarnes, LWalton
PF: LOdom, MBeasley, DCaracter
C: Bynum, TMosgov, ATolliver

Get a solid 27yr old PG who wants out of Denver (who plays very solid D and decent O), a potential bust/player in Flynn, a possible future stud in Williams, Beasley can back up Odom and either grows up and becomes the future PF or he expires (2012 final contract yr), and finally some young solid depth behind Bynum (that isn’t 40yrs old! or broken!)

Can send a few of our 2nd round picks as well.

I have 10 possible trades:

1. http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3upmw3b

2. http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3hjtkx6

3. http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3rdm9h3

4. http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3j289g5

5. http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=699qtkr

6. http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=642d52u

7. http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3v3qh95

8. http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3kv8de5

9. http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=43k9bb4

10. http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3olg9z3

11. http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bgawdq (this will never happen)

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6brsmze

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3wy5lbl

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3zta9af

in this one, indy has to give us a pick.
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http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ygod9k8

fanboydom i know but tis not that farfetched. cp3-kobe-artest-odom-howard…that’d be a monster on defense just the way brown likes it. i trust mitch will land us a new 6th man via mle (i hope they keep this), some veterans and a shooter too to keep us competitive.

IMO, I keep barnes and artest for defense reason. Hoever, artest should lose his starting job and be replaced with a shooter.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3tqugk2

pop can have his twin towers back with duncan-pau and let his young guns get their due time…which i think could be a bad idea for us.

duncan-pau-ebanks-ginobili-hill with a youth movement plus barnes, bonner on the bench.

for us which on paper, i really like:

C- bynum/nazr
PF- odom/blair/2nd rounder
SF artest/jefferson/walton
SG – kobe/mle shooter (like jr smith)
PG parker-blake-fisher-2nd rounder … built to win now with arguably the best bench in the league and a competitive starting 5. we’d be like a swiss army knife on offense-defense.

one thing that’d stop this, SA not getting enough (we might as well add blake for their peanuts to make this work)

and perhaps another CHEMISTRY. popp might as well shoot me now.

I have four more ideas

1. http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3jnam3e

2. http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=44uhx43

3. http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3kg2tq6

4. http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=5wwlznr

Charlotte gets: pau-artest-barnes-blake-caracter-ebanks-a 1st round pick (which we could do via trade in the draft for 2 2nd rounders and 2 2nd round picks, heck let’s give all 4 picks for minnesota’s 2nd pick overall KAHN) and a fast talker so MJ couldn’t think twice

Lakers gets: jackson-thomas-diop-carroll-augustin and henderson

their new lineup would be: pau-d.williams-diaw-they can lure j.rich or another up and coming guard to pair with d.williams as i understand they are now going under the cap (only the cba can kill this)-blake with a bench of kwame-dj white/caracter-najera/ebanks-temple/some mle guy-livingston and for all i care they can do some trades of their own.

as am beginning to feel bad as i can’t really plug in names for their bench, let’s award them shanwow too.

our new lineup would be:
C- bynum/diop
PF- odom/t.thomas/veteran player x
SF- kobe/carroll/walton (darn it!)
SG- jackson/henderson/mle guy (i really am being possessed here, let’s take jr smith or steal andrei miller for our point guard)
PG- augustin/fisher/veteran player (let’s steal andre miller)
PG- miller/augustin/fisher

13 players, steady dose of offense-defense

AND FINALLY, thank heavens am not the GM!

Somone should do an NBA 2k11 assocation on the Lakers. Sim the first you, and then makes the moves they need durign the off-season.

*year

Here’s another posiblity:

 http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3qztln2

what about Pau, Artest, Walton, Caracter for Brand, Iguodala & Speights. Starting lineup of Bynum, Brand, Iggy, Kobe, Dfish w/ Speights, Odom, Barnes, Shannon Brown (resigned), & Blake off the bench. Ideally you could trade Blake & Dfish to get a decent PG but I think this would really help b/c Iggy is a superior player to Artest in everything but spot up 3 point shooting (which he can learn) and guarding pfs but is a superior passer, ball handler, rebounder and perimeter defender b/c of his athleticism. Speights is also a decent backup b/c Brand & Bynum will probably only average 30 min a night leaving Odom & Speights to back them up. Or u could package Odom, Blake, Ebanks & pick for Monte Ellis & Udoh which would form a very potent lineup!

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3r7sv6r

please add that the lakers have to throw in their 1st rounder next year (do they have this?) and even their 2nd rounder from DEN. they could also add caracter instead of the 2nd rounder.

and don’t tell ORL about the ridiculous change in wins using hollinger’s business of stats.

why? the league would not want the lakers to win again…not in the next 5 years at least.
another bad exit in the playoffs might skyrocket the worth of our big men down. not to mention there are too many distractions and not enough results.

both team’s centers sending mixed messages with unclear future signing (howard) and plain old manning up or simply throwing tantrums (bynum). bynum has been the best trade offer for d12 and i believe no other team can match up bynum + others for d12. we simply cannot throw bynum straight up. ORL will simply hang the phone and deliver a line mitch uses nowadays: "not true.‘’ on the other hand, both teams need to dump certain players. i believe blake (and to an extent odom) has become expendable with our pg prospects and so is turkoglu without d12 and nelson’s big contract. so here we find ourselves with this:

ORL lineup: bynum, odom, artest, arenas, duhon. bench: liggins, orton, caracter, r.anderson, harper, mle sf (butler, t.young or chandler could be had) walton, q. richardson, redick, blake. + 2 1st rounders next year

ORL has to face the music. their project last year simply went bad. they are cash strapped to add talent and trade partners for guys like turk and arenas are hard to find. so ORL might as well unleash arenas as the 2nd option and see where it goes. this new lineup remains a playoff starting 5 imo. they have bynum moving forward with a reasonable contract instead of nothing. odom’s contract gives flexibility. bynum and odom can be devastating on both ends. peace should anchor their perimeter D and maybe squeeze the D out of arenas (not too bad in his day) and duhon. walton will eventually expire. the starting 5 will not worry about chemistry as much.

LAL lineup: howard, gasol, turkoglu, kobe, nelson. bench: mohammed (vet), bass, t.murphy (vet), barnes, ebanks, n.young/jr smith (one of these guys can be had if mle exists i hope), goudelock, morris, fisher

that’s 14 players and some issues solved. gasol and howard can be a lethal defensive frontline. brown also wants some twin towers so hard to see us not having 2 seven footers together. pau simply has to step up and use that length. turk ain’t stopping lebron but ron wouldn’t be a great leap forward either. it has to be brown’s system. turk’s got length, will stretch the floor (i’ve been wanting a trade for pau to land granger or gay plus solid PG and somehow turn bynum to d12). nelson doesn’t seem to be the fit we need but just how many PGs are out there who can contribute already? he can shoot, slash and needs some work on D. with vets and mle guy plus rooks and bass, we could have the deepest bench to counter dallas et. al.

again, this is just me doing some random plug-ins. if you have some of your own, let’s make mitch do it!

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3gj2tvt

i see us adding caracter and a some picks, maybe a 1st rounder.

why? reuniting the gasols in memphis is indeed an interesting proposition. including randolph in that rotation makes it even more devastating. memphis seems to be on the side of moving gay after that expensive extension and the rise of their bench players. conley and the failing prospect that is oj mayo as well seem to have been expendable after a good showing by vasquez and others in the playoffs. the lakers command this trade unlike the one in 08. we need shooting, athleticism and youth. this trade gives us all three and then some. as we have the superstar here (gay is not at pau’s level comparably plus he did suffer an injury), we get to ask for some extras. in this case, it’s conley, mayo and arthur. we also dump meta peace for peace’s sakes.

mem lineup: p.gasol, m.gasol, FA sf like caron butler or thaddeus young, tony allen, vasquez. bench: veteran C, randolph, caracter, artest, selby, FA sg like n.young or jr smith, i.smith and some other signings. they have a gasol frontline. for those saying don’t fix what ain’t broken, imagine pau gasol and zbo and marc rotating. mem dumps a redundant player, a failing prospect and only lose d.arthur. they also get cash and a pick.

lal lineup: bynum (who we can convert via orl trade), odom, gay, kobe, conley. bench: mohammed, t.murphy, arthur, barnes, ebanks, walton, mayo, goudelock, morris, blake (who i really like to move) and fisher. that’s 16 (we have to add one to that trade. i see ebanks) players and a hell of a lineup. we have a bomber and scorer in our frontline. we can explore the bynum-lamar combo (not too far from twin towers) and a decent pg with some upside. we also have mayo to find his touch and himself on our bench with an athletic arthur and a new killer bench.

if i combined this with trade above, we have:

C: howard, (mohammed)
PF: bass, arthur, (t.murphy)
SF: gay, turkoglu, barnes
SG: kobe, mayo, goudelock
PG: nelson, conley, morris, fisher

this assumes we buyout walton or get amnesty.

championship fellas!