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Chris Paul Updates And Open Thread

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Note: We've closed comments on this one to consolidate the thread up top. We'll post updates there as they fly in.

11:13 AM: With the Lakers widely reported to be low-balling the Hornets for Chris Paul with the Warriors and Clippers refusing to put their better prospects in the deal in absence of an assurance from Paul that he will resign, the process has been at a deadlock between Boston and L.A., as New Orleans has some pretty poor packages in front of them for their marquee player. Well, that might be changing pretty quickly. From the Twitter account of SI's Sam Amick:

League sources say the Houston has been trying to put together a three-team deal with the Lakers and New Orleans in which Paul goes to LA.

This makes a lot of sense from Houston's perspective if they feel that they're out of running for Nene or Samuel Dalembert, as they are in serious need of a center with Chuck Hayes signing in Sacramento and draft bust Hasheem Thabeet as the only other center on the roster. We have only supposition right now, but one would think that Houston wants Emeka Okafor, a solid defensive five, from New Orleans, As such, Houston wants Pau Gasol to man the middle and is willing to facilitate the deal between the Lakers and Hornets by sending some pieces -- which Daryl Morey, one of the better GMs in the league, has no shortage of -- to New Orleans to sweeten the Lakers' package.

In other words, this is freaking awesome. For this, and the sheer hatred Bill Simmons will direct at Morey if he makes this go down.

More updates as they come after the jump:

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UPDATE (11:20 AM): Confirmed by Yahoo! Sports' Adrian Wojnarowski, who drops some more tidbits:

As reports, the Lakers, Hornets and Rockets are engaged in 3-way talks on deal that would send Chris Paul to Lakers.

The Lakers are trying to do a deal for Chris Paul that will allow them to keep Andrew Bymum, front office source says.

UPDATE (11:24 AM): And if you were curious as to whether NO has been serious about these discussions, here is SI's Chris Mannix:

Hornets have quietly checked out league wide interest in Pau last 48 hours. Called New Jersey, Nets not interested.

UPDATE (11:31 AM): Ignore everything I wrote above about the Rockets wanting Okafor. They're edging for Pau, and will likely send New Orleans a wealth of prospects and picks in return. Here is TNT's David Aldridge:

SI.com reports Lakers, Rockets, Hornets engaged in CP3 talks. That is indeed the case. Gasol would go to HOU.

UPDATE (Noon): From Marc Spears on Twitter...

Names talked about in CP3 3-way are: CP to Lakers, Gasol to HOU & Kevin Martin & Luis Scola and possible picks to Hornets, source tells Y!

UPDATE (1:10 PM): From Woj on Twitter...

Hornets cooling on idea of Boston needing involvement of 3rd team, considering package of Rajon Rondo, Jeff Green and picks for Chris Paul.

UPDATE (1:35 PM): From Chris Tomasson...

Source says Hornets thought they were very close to a deal to send Chris Paul to Lakers but then Lakers backed off. To be continued.

UPDATE (2:30 PM): Bad news from Woj...

The Hornets are expressing trepidation to those talking to them about three-team framework with Lakers and Rockets, league sources say.

UPDATE (2:40 PM): From Alex Kennedy...

Source says that the Lakers and Hornets had agreed to a deal involving Chris Paul, but the Lakers reneged. "Dell [Demps] is very upset."

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by madmaxx350 on Dec 8, 2011 11:19 AM PST reply actions  

My thoughts

Some pieces must fall into place, but D12 + CP3 to the Lakers is becoming more and more plausible. Bynum/Odom for D12/Hedo is obvious enough. CP3 was always the tricky part and I always thought they’d probably need a third team in any trade, especially in the Lakers case since, honestly, there are better packages out there than just Pau Gasol. Well, apparently HOU is trying to become the third team in a NOR-LAL trade in which CP3 goes to LAL. That would be a huge breakthrough in this whole process. As for competing offers for CP3, BOS still scares me since Ainge is apparently willing to trade Rondo w/o assurances that CP3 will extend with them. Other than that, GSW and LAC have fallen behind, and unless NYK can trade Amare (good luck with that), they’ve pretty much taken themselves out by amnestying Billups to sign Tyson Chandler.

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by hobojarpen on Dec 8, 2011 11:21 AM PST reply actions  

Pj is pissed he can’t coach this team right now.

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by _logan_ on Dec 8, 2011 11:28 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

lol nah

if PJ wanted the job back right now he could have it

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL, I don't think Phil has a chance in hell of coming back to coach this team, even if he wanted to. Buss' were done with him.

Besides which they’re not going to break Mike Brown’s contract.

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by SoCalGal on Dec 8, 2011 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

You really think they'd turn away PJ?

He’s a living legend.

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Living Legend or not, Jim Buss runs things now

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by lakergirl on Dec 8, 2011 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

to be honest with CP3, KB24, and D12

not even Brown could screw this up!

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, please God!

I love Pau, but the idea of Chris Paul in a Laker jersey is too tempting!! Do the trade!!

by SmokeAndAshes on Dec 8, 2011 11:38 AM PST reply actions  

I've been calling for this for awhile now!

CP3 in LA is going to be amazing!

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

hmmm

I’m excited!!!

Possible trade:
LAL gets CP3
HOU gets Emeka Okafor
NOH gets Pau, Kevin Martin, some other filler from HOU, a first rounder(s) and cash considerations (and maybe a couple other players on cheap contracts)

I’m mobile so I don’t know if it works perfectly financially but this baseline seems a lot more attractive than one centered around Rajon Rondo (whom they’re only lukewarm about) or Darren Collison (in a three team deal with Boston and Indiana but probably won’t land the Hornets with as many assets)

We might have something. Part one of this master CP3/DH12 plan seems a hell of a lot closer than it did yesterday :)))))

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by steffun4tw on Dec 8, 2011 11:42 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

Wait...

David Aldridge just tweeted Gasol would go to Houston in this trade. Now I’m lost…

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by steffun4tw on Dec 8, 2011 11:45 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

See update above.

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by Ben R on Dec 8, 2011 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

as Fin Fan Forever said

… O MY GOD

"It ain't Chinese algebra. If you get stops and you execute on offense, normally that team wins." - Tony Allen
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by steffun4tw on Dec 8, 2011 11:55 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Now this definitely works for me

Unexpected to say the least but it sounds like a helluva deal for all teams involved….If/When Paul becomes a Laker does that force D12’s hand since it has been reported he would love to play with Paul and he already stated Kobe is a guy he wants to play with…..It’s definitely looking more like we get em both which is a great thing imo

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by EmmCeee on Dec 8, 2011 11:58 AM PST reply actions  

thats what i have been thinking

If we can get cp3 without giving up Bynum & Odom, I think Dwight will finally come forward and say he wants to be traded to LA.

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by LakersFoEva on Dec 8, 2011 1:07 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

My thoughts exactly.

and to be honest that might be what Howard is waiting on anyway. I think once the Paul deal gets done Then and Only then will D12 make it clear who and here he wants to go play for

Da Bears....enuff said

by EmmCeee on Dec 8, 2011 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey Ben

What pieces do you think the Rockets will be offering the Hornets to make this ddeal work? and would we only get Paul or another player or 2 to go with it?

Da Bears....enuff said

by EmmCeee on Dec 8, 2011 12:00 PM PST reply actions  

From what I've read...

Pau goes to HOU, CP3 to LAL, Martin/Scola/Picks/etc to NOR is one possibility

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by hobojarpen on Dec 8, 2011 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

oooh ok

I know im biased but it sounds like a nice deal for the Hornets and Houston gets what they want in Gasol

Da Bears....enuff said

by EmmCeee on Dec 8, 2011 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

im so excited and I just can't hide it

I think I like it

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by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 12:06 PM PST reply actions  

I love it that we're talking basketball again

I’d love to see the Lakers get Paul and Howard, and It’ll be interesting to see what the Rockets do if they get Pau.

by Flipao on Dec 8, 2011 12:11 PM PST reply actions  

O_O HOLY FUCKTARDS

Now this! Is what im talking about! Even w/o D12 this is a damn good deal! Lobs to Drew from CP3 and you still have LO, wow! Then toss in the fact we’d still have the best package out there once Otis has to make a decision on Dwight! Oh man, I love LA!(song starts playing)

by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 8, 2011 12:16 PM PST reply actions  

Yeeeah this is the best possible situation that could have popped up for the Lakers..

Send Pau by himself and still have LO and Drew to use in another possible deal…

Da Bears....enuff said

by EmmCeee on Dec 8, 2011 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

The Lakers have a habit of signing...

players that give them fits. Will JJ Barea be signed next?

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by Joshua S on Dec 8, 2011 12:16 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

I am not sure if anyone agrees but if the Celtics are offering Rondo and draft picks

and if I were the Hornets and I had to choose between Rondo/draft picks and Gasol I would go with Rondo. Hands down.

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by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 12:22 PM PST reply actions  

That's not the case though. It's Scola/Martin/picks and maybe a prospect or two from Houston.

Pau is the big piece Morey has been waiting years for.

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by Ben R on Dec 8, 2011 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Well that changes things

But either way, none of those players are franchise players like Rondo is. I think Houston getting involved though is going to clinch this.

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by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Scola and Marting give you more than what Rondo will

Think about it like this…The word is they are probably gonna lose West, replace him with Scola. Lose CP3 and get Martin. Not a pg i know but they were trying to get Gordon from the Clippers and then the have the sg they wanted. Plus they get picks from Houston to help in the rebuilding process. More than likely the picks they gety from Houston will be better than the ones they would recieve from Boston or the Lakers which sweetens the deal even more

Da Bears....enuff said

by EmmCeee on Dec 8, 2011 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

You're right. My mistake. But I still think that getting a franchise player in return

as good as Rondo is still better than what Houston is offering. You can get those type of players any time but its hard to get a franchise pg that you can build a team around. Its just as hard as getting a quality Center.

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by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

You think

You can build a franchise/contender around Rondo?

by Aethereal on Dec 8, 2011 12:41 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

He was the most important part of the Celtics this past year. I saw the games this

past week of last season’s playoffs. Dude played with one arm. He can defend and rebound better than any pg I have seen in years. So yeah! I think you can build a contender around him.

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by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

At some point he was playing even better than Dirk until he got hurt

and there were talks of him even being Finals MVP.

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by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I dont think Rondo is a franchise player

You kinda gauge a pg on his ability to mke his teammates better but look at Rondo’s teammates. Im not so sure he’s made them better as each of their Big 3 were pretty damn good prior to their Boston days. Good defender and a good passer but with another team his offensive shortcomings will be exposed

Da Bears....enuff said

by EmmCeee on Dec 8, 2011 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

What he brought to the game has nothing to do with those players.

Rebounding and Defense has nothing to do with any of them. Those are his own individual talents. Now assists thats a different story.

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by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Im not taking anything away from him on those 2 aspects

although his rebounding can be due in part to people worrying about the other guy. He definitely does his thing. I just dot think you can build around him rather than add him toan already good team to make them better. I dont think the Celtics would win without him so he obviously is a big part of that but i do think you can plug in a pg that plays good d and can shoot with the same results

Da Bears....enuff said

by EmmCeee on Dec 8, 2011 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Totally Agree on almost everything except on a couple of things

Btw..he isn’t a good shooter at all. But I can’t think of any PG in the league right now that can Rebound, defend and Pass and do all three as good as he does. Defenitely not rebound and defend. Not DWill, Not CP3 hell not Nash.

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by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Do a combination of all three combined?

Fo sho.

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by douchiedude on Dec 8, 2011 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Huh? sorry I don't understand

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by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

true

The rebounding aspect of it is icing on the cake regarding pg’s. Defense, driving .dishing and shooting is more important imo and cp3 fits that bill better..add in the ft shooting and it’s easy to see why the Celtics would want cp3 over Rondo

Da Bears....enuff said

by EmmCeee on Dec 8, 2011 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Well the one thing that CP3 does and only nash is better but older

would be make everyone around him better. He kills Rondo on that aspect. So the infatuation with CP3 is legit.

"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant

by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

CP3?

He shoots better, defends just as good, passes better. Makes stars out of nobodies, Rondo barely makes his stars better.

Besides who needs a pg who is a liability at the end of the game due to inability to make free throws or open shots?

btw CP3 isn’t that bad at rebounding as well.

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Shoots better and passes waaaaay better. But I'm sorry but you are

way off on defending. That is like saying rondo is just as good as CP3 at passing. The same with rebounding. There is no way he is better than Rondo at rebounding. But I will concede with your point of him being a liability.

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by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Rondo is the better rebounder.

He probably rival Jason Kidd in his prime at that category.

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by madmaxx350 on Dec 8, 2011 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

You have to look at the teams. Rondo crashes the boards

CP3 normally has to get back as teams like to fast break on the Hornets.

and defensively, CP picks just as many pockets as Rondo does

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah its just a matter of opinion but although I hate the C's

I love that kids game. He is up there with NASH and CP3 and He is a better defender and rebounder than they both are. hands down!!!

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by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Rondo is a great defender no doubt, but I see him as more Michael Cooper than Magic Johnson

If Rondo is the 3rd or 4th best player on your team, great. If he is the best player well then you are the 76ers post-Iverson.

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by Jason78 on Dec 8, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

kind of makes me sad...
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by theshmoes on Dec 8, 2011 12:29 PM PST reply actions  

LOL...

Da Bears....enuff said

by EmmCeee on Dec 8, 2011 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

meh! peace out!

I love Pau but I love the Lakers more.

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by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

does make me sad and I'll miss the big guy if he's traded

but this chance is too big to pass up. I’ll still cheer for him on the Rockets if they aren’t playing the Lakers though :)

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

just sayin...

if we get Paul and Howard, our big four of odom, gasol, bynum, and kobe gets shrunk down to a big 3 with a crappy bench

Kobe: "Listen, if you told me at the beginning of the year that we’ve got two games at home to win a championship, yeah, I’ll take that shit"

by hrghori on Dec 8, 2011 12:33 PM PST reply actions  

But

Paul, Kobe, Howard > Kobe, Odom, Gasol, Bynum

Easily. Not even close. We’re set for this year and for the next 5 to 8 or 10 (assuming CP3 and DH12 re-sign). And if we trade Bynum and Odom for Howard and Turkoglu, the only drop-off would be from Odom to Turkoglu on the bench, but Howard way more than makes up for it.

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by steffun4tw on Dec 8, 2011 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

As the lone SSR staffer who was against a move for either Howard or Paul

the future benefits of both are way too crazy to ignore. You do that deal no matter what it leaves you with otherwise.

by C.A. Clark on Dec 8, 2011 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Still not sure I'm loving this, but man, Morey is good.

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by Joshua S on Dec 8, 2011 12:34 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

This is why you stockpile draft picks and other assets.

You never know when your golden opportunity might arise.

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by Ben R on Dec 8, 2011 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

the golden opportunity to help out the Lakers? :)

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Ugh,

I got ectoplasm all over the keyboard!

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TMI!!!!

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by SoCalGal on Dec 8, 2011 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

On a side note...

I’m curious to see how DAL reacts with Chandler going to NYK, Tough Juice signing with LAC, and Barea commenting that he thinks he’s long gone as well.

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by hobojarpen on Dec 8, 2011 12:40 PM PST reply actions  

on a side side note

This takes me back to how fortunate we are to have Buss. Many other fan bases get pissed because the Lakers’ winning tradition but in reality its Buss’ ability to see that you HAVE TO overpay for certain players who fit in your system and can net you a title. For years we have been hearing how the Mavs didn’t have any defense and now that they have it and Cuban is willing to throw that away. Its Nash all over again. I am curious as to how much he wanted to though.

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by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

chandler went to knicks?

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by chaucer on Dec 8, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup

Apparently Chauncey isn’t happy because this will lead to his amnesty or a trade:

Link

by SV Narine on Dec 8, 2011 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

not official

but the Knicks are apparently the front-runner, but they have to make unfriendly moves to clear up the necessary cap space.

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by steffun4tw on Dec 8, 2011 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

lol @ how part of lockout negotiations were focused on preventing the formation of super teams ...what's going on now? haha

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the lakers winning is good for the nba as a whole

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Good thing the Mavs won this past season. If not basketball would not be saved

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by ayeyoJERM on Dec 8, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah and Battier to the Heat helps them tremendously

although I would have been much more worried about them if they picked up Chandler. I just don’t think Haslem is a center.

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by Jason78 on Dec 8, 2011 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

thanks guys. this is a genius idea of a thread. i am at work. stopped working. and am smiling after reading these updates. i pray this happens.

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by chaucer on Dec 8, 2011 12:47 PM PST reply actions  

i maybe outspoken in this but i would rather have howard then paul. he does have shaky knees and i have trouble seeing him coexisting with kobe on the perimeter and ball sharing responsibilities

by DannyPin on Dec 8, 2011 12:48 PM PST reply actions  

The good news with this trade as it allows the Lakers to pursue both Howard and CP3. Bynum is still on the table if these rumors end up being correct

by SV Narine on Dec 8, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

exactly

"They’re a very special group of men. Cherish them, you will not see their like again."

by chaucer on Dec 8, 2011 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

*Bynum and Odom

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by steffun4tw on Dec 8, 2011 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

what do u guys make of the idea that mitch is usually mum on trades and usually when we hear rumors they aren’t true? does this hurt our chances of making this happen?

"They’re a very special group of men. Cherish them, you will not see their like again."

by chaucer on Dec 8, 2011 12:53 PM PST reply actions  

yup

twitter effectively kills the possibility of any surprises

"It ain't Chinese algebra. If you get stops and you execute on offense, normally that team wins." - Tony Allen
"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker

by steffun4tw on Dec 8, 2011 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

So is

this the trade? Not bad at all. DO IT.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.

"Warner never took over games."

Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Dec 8, 2011 12:56 PM PST reply actions  

Oops

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.

"Warner never took over games."

Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Dec 8, 2011 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

that's the basis

the Hornets might want sweeteners like cash considerations/draft picks/and maybe another solid/cheap player or two

"It ain't Chinese algebra. If you get stops and you execute on offense, normally that team wins." - Tony Allen
"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker

by steffun4tw on Dec 8, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Very good deal.

Makes Howard a very good possibility, and I was #teamdwight

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.

"Warner never took over games."

Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Dec 8, 2011 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

then we give them cash and/or draft picks

We haven’t made a draft pick work for us since Bynum

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

crazy shit goin down all day from Pujols to the Angels to this!!!!!!!!

"If somebody had their life on the line, and they’ve got their options on who they want to save their life — tell me who you’re going to pick? You’re going to look at the stats first?" - Kobe Bryant

by desecrator09 on Dec 8, 2011 12:57 PM PST reply actions  

ehh

baseball…

Kobe: "Listen, if you told me at the beginning of the year that we’ve got two games at home to win a championship, yeah, I’ll take that shit"

by hrghori on Dec 8, 2011 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

off topic

but this Tyson Chandler to New York means Billups will be cut or traded I dont know if theyll find a trade partner matching that money, which means hell be cut..and wants to plans for contender..interests? where the only contender with a current hole at pg, well and Miami

by KobeBryantSlamDunkGiant on Dec 8, 2011 12:57 PM PST reply actions  

amenity Billups, mostly likely

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by ayeyoJERM on Dec 8, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

If he comes here at the veteran minimum

to back up Chris Paul, or even to start if the CP trade falls through, it could be nice.

"It ain't Chinese algebra. If you get stops and you execute on offense, normally that team wins." - Tony Allen
"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker

by steffun4tw on Dec 8, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

yeeeah

IF the Paul deal fell through i would no doubt want Billups on the team

Da Bears....enuff said

by EmmCeee on Dec 8, 2011 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

The Amnesty claim process in the new CBA will likely prevent Billups from going to a contender

some team with a ton of money under the cap that has to spend it to hit the salary floor will pick him up if for nothing else as a veteran mentor. Washington would make a ton of sense as a destination for this reason. Maybe Denver would want him back to mentor Lawson as well (he did grow up there).

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by Jason78 on Dec 8, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

If Billups gets cut via amnesty, he could end up back in Denver?

"Winning takes talent; to repeat takes character." - John Wooden

by Joshua S on Dec 8, 2011 1:06 PM PST reply actions  

possibly

but they say contender? so i dont know if it will be Denver but Denver is home

by KobeBryantSlamDunkGiant on Dec 8, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Denver doesnt want him

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by lakergirl on Dec 8, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

:D

Finish my finals to come home to this news?!?!

This is awesome! I love it! Let’s do it!

Now we would still have the pieces to make a trade for Dwight! O man this is great news!

I will miss Pau though. He has been great for us.

Bamboozled.

by PoPs_737 on Dec 8, 2011 1:08 PM PST reply actions  

emotions block success

yes pau was great but id rather win 3 more championships with kobe and a new guy (or two?) rather than limping through the season and flaming out in the playoffs with pau

by jrose94 on Dec 8, 2011 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Of course.

It’s probably the perfect time to trade Gasol. Well not perfect, but before he starts declining. As stated on here before, it’s better to trade someone too early than too late.

Bamboozled.

by PoPs_737 on Dec 8, 2011 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

report/rumor on espn.com says that if chandler goes to knicks, the knicks can then offer amare to hornets for paul.

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by chaucer on Dec 8, 2011 1:10 PM PST reply actions  

They have no picks or sweetners though.

I’d take Martin/Scola/Dragic/picks over that.

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by Ben R on Dec 8, 2011 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

chandler, melo, cp3

doesn’t have that same appeal to be honest

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

It would be a marketing dream for Jordan Brand to have DWade in Miami, Melo in NY & CP3 in LA

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by ayeyoJERM on Dec 8, 2011 1:10 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

LOL

For Thine is
Life is
For Thine is the

by he(v)90 on Dec 8, 2011 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

"It ain't Chinese algebra. If you get stops and you execute on offense, normally that team wins." - Tony Allen
"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker

by steffun4tw on Dec 8, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

REC

omg..I sure love the Lakers talk but some of the jokes you guys come up with are freakin knee slappers. This is a good one. thanks for making me lmfao

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by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

Da Bears....enuff said

by EmmCeee on Dec 8, 2011 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

lmao

this officially made my classes coming up not ruin my day

by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 8, 2011 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Just scrolled back to this to laugh again...lol its still funny. : )

"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant

by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Hilarious! Anyone else think Stern (who owns the Hornets, right?) would stick it to Fish post-lockout

by making sure CP3 becomes a Laker? It would be right up Stern’s alley to be a total dick like that.

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by Jason78 on Dec 8, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

omg

Houston is trying to be my second favorite team in the world for getting us CP3

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 1:13 PM PST reply actions  

We can't let the Celtics get CP3

that would be unacceptable. Up the offer, find a different third team, anything. I think the Celtics would not be smart to trade Rondo for Paul if they don’t know for sure that they can sign Paul, but that is their decision.

Make it happen Mitch!!!

by jrose94 on Dec 8, 2011 1:13 PM PST reply actions  

comments from Boston Fans. I find it really surprising that they are bumbed about the possibility of losing Delonte West. Btw.I didn't comment on their site. no need to start shit.
Across the board, none of this is good.
Lakers after Dwest… nauseating.
Knicks getting stronger and adding the one thing the team really needs… defense (Chandler) and veteran leadership (Hill)… Ok I really might throw up.
Battier in Miami… someone get me a bucket, quick.
So far, worst off-season ever.
What can I say, the Celtics are so 2008. With these signings I think the Knicks officially passed us. But not to worry, were about to acquire an all star point guard who doesn’t really want to be in Boston. Hooray!
Just getting sick of the super-best-friend basketball stuff going on. Yes I know we started it lol but I’m a baby and I don’t want anyone else using our idea haha.

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by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 1:16 PM PST reply actions  

It would be so dumb for them to trade for paul

considering he said he won’t resign there. ainge can be as confident as he wants but you don’t give up an all star for a better (but not by too much), older, and much more injury prone all star at the same position. makes zero sense

by jrose94 on Dec 8, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

They are starting to realize Ainge sucks as a GM

he got one good move in and people thought he was amazing

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

agreed

Its all gone down hill since he traded Perkins. I mean in terms of how the fans feel about him.

"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant

by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Still not clear what New Orleans would be getting out of the 3 way with Lakers but...

on other hand… WHO CARES! Go Lakers! I love Chris Paul.

Though honestly I’d rather trade one of Bynum or Pau and then add Dwight Howard, who might be safer add’n.

On other hand, WHO CARES, CHRIS PAUL!

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by underdog on Dec 8, 2011 1:25 PM PST reply actions  

NO would get something...instead of nothing

CP is leaving after this year, they are trying to get some compensation for him instead of letting him walk.

by rshinsec on Dec 8, 2011 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

yep

or get Lebroned’ …and with the way basketball fans are in New Orleans if Chris Paul walks in free agency you might as well fold the team and move them

by KobeBryantSlamDunkGiant on Dec 8, 2011 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

definitely that city is Saints land

but the local businesses really push them and support the team.

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

What they get

Is Kevin Martin and Luis Scola, plus maybe draft picks. LA gets Paul, Houston gets Pau + cap space so they can grab an elite FA C potentially unleashing an all Gasol frontline into an unsuspecting world.

by Flipao on Dec 8, 2011 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

True, makes more sense, thanks.

Scola’s actually pretty good, too.

Would like to see Paul extended in LA of course if this goes down.

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by underdog on Dec 8, 2011 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the main reason this 3 way trade will work is that the Rockets will still have room to sign someone like Nene after this trade goes down, by showing him that if he comes to Houston he gets to play next to Gasol.. To me this makes it even more of a possibility that this could go down, as Houston has tons to gain from this. Looks like N.O. is just a boneyard for the NBA to store picks and players right now. With them essentially owning the Hornets it makes sense for them to facilitate the best possible trade scenarios to help their bottom line and attract fans and money. Then by the time someone hopefully steps in to buy the Hornets they will have a wealth of picks and young players to work with. This all makes tons of sense.

by purrrrrple on Dec 8, 2011 1:30 PM PST reply actions  

but doesnt Okafore go to houston in the trade?

or can someone repost what all the known parts of the trade are?

by KobeBryantSlamDunkGiant on Dec 8, 2011 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Here's the basis:

CP3 to Lakers
Pau to Rockets
Scola and Martin to Hornets

"It ain't Chinese algebra. If you get stops and you execute on offense, normally that team wins." - Tony Allen
"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker

by steffun4tw on Dec 8, 2011 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

That's the part im curious about....

Im assuming any deal for Paul will hafta include Okeafor’s contract. The question then is who takes that on?If we were to take it on then that coulld solve our problem for a Backup whether we get Hoard or not

Da Bears....enuff said

by EmmCeee on Dec 8, 2011 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

RT @christomasson: Source says Hornets thought they were very close to a deal to send Chris Paul to Lakers but then Lakers backed off.

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by lakergirl on Dec 8, 2011 1:33 PM PST reply actions  

WTFFFFFFFFFFFFF

WHY WOULD THE LAKERS BACK OUT OF THIS TRADE?

"It ain't Chinese algebra. If you get stops and you execute on offense, normally that team wins." - Tony Allen
"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker

by steffun4tw on Dec 8, 2011 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I dont know

But with all the details being leaked, doesnt sound very Mitch-like

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by lakergirl on Dec 8, 2011 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

well

this tweet cites just one “source” so hopefully it’s not as credible as when they say “sources” ahhaa

"It ain't Chinese algebra. If you get stops and you execute on offense, normally that team wins." - Tony Allen
"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker

by steffun4tw on Dec 8, 2011 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL, yeah makes a difference

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by lakergirl on Dec 8, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

what a fucking idiot whoever made this decision

"If somebody had their life on the line, and they’ve got their options on who they want to save their life — tell me who you’re going to pick? You’re going to look at the stats first?" - Kobe Bryant

by desecrator09 on Dec 8, 2011 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Hello des

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by lakergirl on Dec 8, 2011 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

And hello to you too.

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by SoCalGal on Dec 8, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

indeed

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by Tkuang on Dec 8, 2011 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

hi des!

Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.

by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn you Jim Buss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant

by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Am I the only who really is excited about getting CP3 but deep down will be 100% cool and happy

if we didnt. Howard is the goal….Howard is the goal….Howard is the goal….Howard is the goal…Howard is the goal. If you say it, it will come. Howard is the goal…Howard is the goal.

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by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

The thing is

This trade is perfect. It’s not like we would use Gasol for Howard, anyways. This trade makes us better even without the Howard deal going through. DH12 is still the overall goal, though

"It ain't Chinese algebra. If you get stops and you execute on offense, normally that team wins." - Tony Allen
"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker

by steffun4tw on Dec 8, 2011 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

That is still up for debate in my book as far as it making us better.

Maybe improve drastically the PG position but I don’t know about improving our chances of winning a title better. Howard makes us by far the favorite…but I don’t know if CP3 does that.

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by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

It's only one source so far, so there's that.

Spears/Aldridge/Woj/Amick haven’t said anything about it.

@brosales12

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by Ben R on Dec 8, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

This!!!

"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant

by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

yep

I keep looking for their tweets and since they’ve been mum, I’ve calmed down a bit.

"It ain't Chinese algebra. If you get stops and you execute on offense, normally that team wins." - Tony Allen
"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker

by steffun4tw on Dec 8, 2011 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

What if all this CP3 to Lakers is just smoke screen for the Dwight trade?

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by lakergirl on Dec 8, 2011 1:39 PM PST reply actions  

What if they are acting like they are backing off so people stop talking about it...

..then BOOM Mitch pulls the trigger and we have Chris Paul, and then BOOM Mitch pulls the other trigger and we have Dwight Howard. Bada bing bada BOOM

Bamboozled.

by PoPs_737 on Dec 8, 2011 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

lol that would be beautiful

"It ain't Chinese algebra. If you get stops and you execute on offense, normally that team wins." - Tony Allen
"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker

by steffun4tw on Dec 8, 2011 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Why would us talking about it, keep Mitch from pulling the trigger?

85% of SBNation members are idiots who dont know they're idiots. 10 % are just plain stupid. 5% are educated sports fans. Which one are you?

by Kevin M. on Dec 8, 2011 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Not you. Journalists

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by lakergirl on Dec 8, 2011 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Ok then why would Mitch not pull the trigger because journalists are talking about the deal? lol

85% of SBNation members are idiots who dont know they're idiots. 10 % are just plain stupid. 5% are educated sports fans. Which one are you?

by Kevin M. on Dec 8, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I dont know

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by lakergirl on Dec 8, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

It's a joke.

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by SoCalGal on Dec 8, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Really? Ok, good.

I’ll move on.

85% of SBNation members are idiots who dont know they're idiots. 10 % are just plain stupid. 5% are educated sports fans. Which one are you?

by Kevin M. on Dec 8, 2011 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Because Mitch usually works in the shadows and nobody hears about it.

Think about the Gasol trade.

That’s what I’m referring to, but I’m not being serious.

Bamboozled.

by PoPs_737 on Dec 8, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh ok.

85% of SBNation members are idiots who dont know they're idiots. 10 % are just plain stupid. 5% are educated sports fans. Which one are you?

by Kevin M. on Dec 8, 2011 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

because Mitch wants to do a double shotgun bang bang

with announcing the trades back to back :)

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

The boom would be if we wake up on Xmas eve and find a "Lakers trade for Howard"

headline.

"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant

by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Dont overreact...

The Lakers are offering the LO Bynum for Howard deal to the Magic and are trying to get confirmation on that prior to accepting the deal for Paul…Smart business move if that is indeed the case which i think it is

Da Bears....enuff said

by EmmCeee on Dec 8, 2011 1:41 PM PST reply actions  

Ok we wont

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Faith is remaining certain in the face of doubt. You’re not sure how it’s going to end, but you’re constantly of the belief that it will end the way you want it to and the way you always believed it to end, and that’s on top - Derek Fisher

by lakergirl on Dec 8, 2011 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Huh? is this your prediction?

"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant

by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

That's what i believe is goin down

Im assuming the whole purpose of trading Pau from the Lakers standpoint is to get Howard to LA as a running mate. Otherwise they would be simply going after Howard and not Paul. You cant do the Paul deal without being pretty confident in getting Howard

Da Bears....enuff said

by EmmCeee on Dec 8, 2011 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

True.

But if the Lakes get CP3, that could force Howard’s trade demand.

Ball don't lie.

by East.Coast.Laker.Fan on Dec 8, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Ahhhhh so much chaos

"Losing feels worse than winning feels good." -Vin Scully

by Tkuang on Dec 8, 2011 1:45 PM PST reply actions  

Anyone at Screen and roll discussing this?

Players can renegotiate salaries downward!

“• A new “renegotiation and extension” provision allows an existing contract to be renegotiated so the player is paid a smaller amount over a longer period, but the player’s salary cannot decrease by more than 40 percent. Renegotiations previously could only increase a player’s salary."

by ________key on Dec 8, 2011 1:47 PM PST reply actions  

Per Woj
Hornets cooling on idea of Boston needing involvement of 3rd team, considering package of Rajon Rondo, Jeff Green and picks for Chris Paul

Sucks about the Lakers backing off news, if that’s the case

by SV Narine on Dec 8, 2011 1:48 PM PST reply actions  

Okay.

You're only a success for the moment that you complete a successful act. - Tex Winter
Tweetness

by SoCalGal on Dec 8, 2011 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

fuck...we're gonna lose CP3 to the Celtics now :-(

noo….my dream!!!
Paul-Bryant-Howard-PF-Artest

Go Sharks!

by Dmitriy on Dec 8, 2011 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Let them have him.

If they got Howard then I would worry. Other than that, I don’t care.

"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant

by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Can't believe they prefer that over Dragic/Martin/Scola/picks.

Rondo needs good teammates and Green sucks.

@brosales12

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu

by Ben R on Dec 8, 2011 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

they're just trying to get us/Houston

to throw in a few more little extras

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

It is much better

If the Lakers are the ones who back off rather than the hornets. This means Hornets and Houston are both very interested and it all hinges on Lakers decision. better to know the deal is waiting for our stamp of approval than knowing we’re waiting on another team’s whims.

by Barbaroi on Dec 8, 2011 1:54 PM PST reply actions  

Trading in the NBA sounds a lot like dating in the real world.

by SV Narine on Dec 8, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

LOL, so true.

You're only a success for the moment that you complete a successful act. - Tex Winter
Tweetness

by SoCalGal on Dec 8, 2011 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

So what's goin on with that Dwight Howard guy?

Leaving Jimmer Fredette open for 3 is like leaving Brad Pitt alone with your wife. You know he's gonna hit it.

by RA37thriller on Dec 8, 2011 1:54 PM PST reply actions  

meh

who knows

"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant

by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Chris Broussard just came on ESPN and spoke live

saying that the Lakers, NO and Rockets talking is still very much alive. (head exploding)!!!

Who to believe??

"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant

by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 1:55 PM PST reply actions  

I'd believe Broussard

His “sources” are probably a helluvalot more reliable than the “source” of the person who tweeted the Lakers backed off.

"It ain't Chinese algebra. If you get stops and you execute on offense, normally that team wins." - Tony Allen
"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker

by steffun4tw on Dec 8, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL
@blakegriffin
Hey guys I just got traded…

by Flipao on Dec 8, 2011 1:55 PM PST reply actions  

Double LOL
@blakegriffin
Stupid autocorrec. I meant say I just got to Trader Joes, the grocery store. Gonna do some shopping.

by Flipao on Dec 8, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

You're only a success for the moment that you complete a successful act. - Tex Winter
Tweetness

by SoCalGal on Dec 8, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

ROFL

"It ain't Chinese algebra. If you get stops and you execute on offense, normally that team wins." - Tony Allen
"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker

by steffun4tw on Dec 8, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant

by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Blake is awesome

Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.

by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

God, I love Blake.

@brosales12

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu

by Ben R on Dec 8, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Blake was built to be a star in LA. He’s got a great sense of humor and is a pretty good actor also. If he hasn’t already, he’ll probably host SNL sometime between now and when he retires, because god knows it will still be on

by SV Narine on Dec 8, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

This could all boil down to the Lakers wanting Howard and waiting on Billups to get the amnesty ax then sign him for cheap..

Which wouldnt be a bad idea either…You get the Big man you wanted plus a better pg than Fisher for next to nothing while allowing the rookie Morris to develop this year before giving him the reins next year if he is indeed the future pg i think he might be…He could learn alot from having Fish and Billups to show him the ropes

Da Bears....enuff said

by EmmCeee on Dec 8, 2011 1:57 PM PST reply actions  

I'm very, very doubtful Billups makes it through secondary waivers.

@brosales12

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu

by Ben R on Dec 8, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

aaah forgot about the waiver wire thing

scratch that idea we wouldnt stand a chance in getting him lol

Da Bears....enuff said

by EmmCeee on Dec 8, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

@KevinDing
Lakers expecting Pau’s impact to decrease going forward next to Bynum (or Howard). Makes total sense to use him for CP3.

@brosales12

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu

by Ben R on Dec 8, 2011 1:58 PM PST reply actions  

Interesting.

You're only a success for the moment that you complete a successful act. - Tex Winter
Tweetness

by SoCalGal on Dec 8, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

This is amazing

If we can pull this off, Howard and Paul will be ours! The Laker franchise lives on!

by datboyeddiep on Dec 8, 2011 1:58 PM PST reply actions  

@DevonNBA
No sir RT @Lakerfan3192: @DevonNBA So there is no truth to the rumor that the lakers backed off ?

Tomasson is full of crap. Proceed people.

@brosales12

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu

by Ben R on Dec 8, 2011 1:58 PM PST reply actions  

And Spears tweeted this, so he hasn't heard anything either:
What do you think of a possible Lakers’ starting lineup of Kobe & CP at guards, Artest and Odom at forwards and Bynum at center?

@brosales12

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu

by Ben R on Dec 8, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Artest is twitterspeak for Metta World Peace

Metta World Peace is way too many characters

F*** Fairness. F*** Happy Endings. F*** Bad PR. F*** Losing. F*** Guarding 3-point Shooters. These are the tenets of the Black Mamba.
- C.A. Clark (well, except for the last one .. I added that)

by Jason78 on Dec 8, 2011 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

sounds like an amazing starting lineup

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Match up nightmare....assuming drew stays healthy

He would be a bigger part of the offense and should get more easy looks with CP at the point

Da Bears....enuff said

by EmmCeee on Dec 8, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I told you guys...I was kidding btw of not wanting CP3. : ) I take it back.

"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant

by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

i sure as hell hope so haha

"It ain't Chinese algebra. If you get stops and you execute on offense, normally that team wins." - Tony Allen
"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker

by steffun4tw on Dec 8, 2011 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

So, if somehow the Lakers were able to get CP3 and Howard

how likely would it be that the Lakers still use their amnesty this year? Could they pocket it for use later down the road?

by Blake Jensen on Dec 8, 2011 2:01 PM PST reply actions  

they can save it for a later year,

But they may use it on Luke.

"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung

by LakersFoEva on Dec 8, 2011 2:42 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

daaaaamn it! I have to go to class. I'm freaking out about all of this.

"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant

by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 2:01 PM PST reply actions  

By the way

I’m going to take 100% credit for this. When I was in NO I convinced CP3 to come to us, and the 2 months of my sig being Mitch make CP3 a Laker …. that’s what made this all possible!

Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.

by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:02 PM PST reply actions  

:)

Should get me free playoff tickets at Staples imo

Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.

by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll have to :)

Actually since Memphis courtside seats are like $175, I’ll just go sit behind the bench again :)

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

You better have knocked your head on wood a couple times after typing that.

@brosales12

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu

by Ben R on Dec 8, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

man I've been begging for a cp3 deal forever

almost nothing could bring me down from this cloud 9 right now. I’m seriously like way the hell up there, and this hydrocodone I’m on is not the reason!

Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.

by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Amare a Hornet? WTF? Just heard that on ESPN.

maybe its someone saying that the Knicks should trade Amare for CP3. If Chandler signs with them, its possible.

"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant

by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 2:02 PM PST reply actions  

amare lol

"Losing feels worse than winning feels good." -Vin Scully

by Tkuang on Dec 8, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

ESPN tv is about to talk about the Lakers wanting CP3

In case someone wants to know.

"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant

by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 2:05 PM PST reply actions  

there is a rumor of them trading Gasol for him, via Houston

by ________key on Dec 8, 2011 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

@DevonNBA
If LA can package just Pau Gasol to NO, expect the Bynum to ORL talks to follow immediately.

@brosales12

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu

by Ben R on Dec 8, 2011 2:08 PM PST reply actions  

please happen!!!!!!

"Losing feels worse than winning feels good." -Vin Scully

by Tkuang on Dec 8, 2011 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

its kind of sad when we are more up to date on trades than the "professionals" are

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Meh I'm sure they have to go through some screening process first lol

Besides our info comes from ‘professionals’ lol

Bamboozled.

by PoPs_737 on Dec 8, 2011 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

somewhat

we’ve been talking bynum/lamar for howard/turk for awhile

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Win

@brosales12

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu

by Ben R on Dec 8, 2011 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

You're only a success for the moment that you complete a successful act. - Tex Winter
Tweetness

by SoCalGal on Dec 8, 2011 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

It makes sense.

If this trade goes through, the Lakers are one Bynum misstep from disaster, and would need to do something to mitigate that risk. Howard would be an excellent solution.

by mr. eggplant on Dec 8, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

@KBergCBS
BREAKING: Players have approved the new collective bargaining agreement, two people with knowledge of the results tell @CBSSports.

by Flipao on Dec 8, 2011 2:10 PM PST reply actions  

very nice

let the trades commence!

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Broussard can die in a fire

his celtic comment is scaring me

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:12 PM PST reply actions  

what he say

"Losing feels worse than winning feels good." -Vin Scully

by Tkuang on Dec 8, 2011 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

he said new orleans would consider the celtics package of rondo/green/picks

i still think our scenario is better (as long as we sweeten it with picks and cash)

"It ain't Chinese algebra. If you get stops and you execute on offense, normally that team wins." - Tony Allen
"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker

by steffun4tw on Dec 8, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

nah he said they reached a deal

Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.

by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

NO

"It ain't Chinese algebra. If you get stops and you execute on offense, normally that team wins." - Tony Allen
"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker

by steffun4tw on Dec 8, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

can't be true!!

"It ain't Chinese algebra. If you get stops and you execute on offense, normally that team wins." - Tony Allen
"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker

by steffun4tw on Dec 8, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

that the Celtics reached a deal to move Rondo +

for CP3

Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.

by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

someone posted it in our other thread, let me check who

Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.

by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

but it's not on twitter

twitter would explode if someone like broussard said this

"It ain't Chinese algebra. If you get stops and you execute on offense, normally that team wins." - Tony Allen
"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker

by steffun4tw on Dec 8, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

he listed it as a rt so

I think someone was fucking with him

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn anonymous sources.

F*** Fairness. F*** Happy Endings. F*** Bad PR. F*** Losing. F*** Guarding 3-point Shooters. These are the tenets of the Black Mamba.
- C.A. Clark (well, except for the last one .. I added that)

by Jason78 on Dec 8, 2011 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree

sf3 hasn’t responded yet

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

nm just did

someone was trolling him

Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.

by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

asking shaqfor3 where he saw it

because I don’t see it

Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.

by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

ya i can't find it

where did u see this?

"It ain't Chinese algebra. If you get stops and you execute on offense, normally that team wins." - Tony Allen
"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker

by steffun4tw on Dec 8, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

sf3 posted it

he’s not normally a joker

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Butler to the Clippers 3 years for 24mil

am I late on this?

"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant

by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 2:16 PM PST reply actions  

if you've been away for more than 2 minutes

you’re late haha

"It ain't Chinese algebra. If you get stops and you execute on offense, normally that team wins." - Tony Allen
"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker

by steffun4tw on Dec 8, 2011 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

A bit. Terribly overpaid.

@brosales12

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu

by Ben R on Dec 8, 2011 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree but that is what happens during free agency.

"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant

by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

nope

good deal for the Clips too imo

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Bill Simmons said something way too true

They’re paying over $20 million to Butler and Ryan Gomes for Aminu to not play. It’s a good signing but I think I agree that they should develop Aminu so they’ll have 3 studs with Griffin and Gordon over the next 10 years

"It ain't Chinese algebra. If you get stops and you execute on offense, normally that team wins." - Tony Allen
"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker

by steffun4tw on Dec 8, 2011 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

this is true

Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.

by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Aminu is trade bait for whatever superstar Griffin wants

I would love for them to call Phoenix and offer Aminu and picks for Nash. The Suns would have to say yes, right?

F*** Fairness. F*** Happy Endings. F*** Bad PR. F*** Losing. F*** Guarding 3-point Shooters. These are the tenets of the Black Mamba.
- C.A. Clark (well, except for the last one .. I added that)

by Jason78 on Dec 8, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

good move, they needed a sf

"Losing feels worse than winning feels good." -Vin Scully

by Tkuang on Dec 8, 2011 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

From LAT's Mark Medina:
The Lakers have taken stronger steps in their talks with the Hornets for perennial All-Star guard Chris Paul, according to an individual familiar with discussions but not authorized to speak publicly about it.

http://lakersblog.latimes.com/lakersblog/2011/12/lakers-talks-with-new-orleans-for-paul-get-more-serious.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&dlvrit=53297

@brosales12

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu

by Ben R on Dec 8, 2011 2:16 PM PST reply actions  

you mean by the end of the evening

I will be setting aside the money for my cp3 lakers uni?

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

It's just a vague statement that there are discussions.

I’d wait until someone authoritative tweets before you crack out the champagne.

@brosales12

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu

by Ben R on Dec 8, 2011 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Woj, come through for me Woj

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Let us Tebow

Please let the Lakers get CP3 and Dwight Howard … Please let the Lakers get CP3 and Dwight Howard … Amen

F*** Fairness. F*** Happy Endings. F*** Bad PR. F*** Losing. F*** Guarding 3-point Shooters. These are the tenets of the Black Mamba.
- C.A. Clark (well, except for the last one .. I added that)

by Jason78 on Dec 8, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I will Tebow all night if it gets us CP3 and D12

Actually since I’ve had pneumonia I’ve been sleeping in a kneeling position anyways lol

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Oden signed his qualifying offer 8.9 mill

you know .. if he can play a full season he might be worth 8.9 mil this year

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:20 PM PST reply actions  

You know ... I foresee Steve Nash

setting up some crazy dunks for Shannon Brown this year. And for Phoenix to still suck balls.

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:22 PM PST reply actions  

indeed they shall

"Losing feels worse than winning feels good." -Vin Scully

by Tkuang on Dec 8, 2011 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

any team with Nash is fun to watch :)

#FreeSteveNash

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

lol poor nash

"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant

by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I wish Nash could be traded to the Clippers for Aminu, Bledsoe, and a pick

Phoenix should do that in a heartbeat and the Nash to Blake alley-oops would be 8th wonder of the world quality.

F*** Fairness. F*** Happy Endings. F*** Bad PR. F*** Losing. F*** Guarding 3-point Shooters. These are the tenets of the Black Mamba.
- C.A. Clark (well, except for the last one .. I added that)

by Jason78 on Dec 8, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Shannon, Blake, Nash

non stop oop world!

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Blake would have to go to Phoenix for that.

Unless somehow Shannon gets thrown in the mix.

Bamboozled.

by PoPs_737 on Dec 8, 2011 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

yar

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

lol Tayshaun Prince staying in Detroit?

man take a paycut and get out of that horrid town

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:24 PM PST reply actions  

I don't know which is stupider.

Dumars thinking Prince was worth that kind of money or Prince for deciding to stay in Detroit.

@brosales12

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu

by Ben R on Dec 8, 2011 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Prince is an elite wing defender and has a great wingspan to go with it

when used properly he’s amazing. Remember him kicking Kobe’s ass? But they haven’t utilized him properly in how long?

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

this could be true

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

He was drafted like 5 years after Kobe

Age is a weird thing in this league, just look at Grant Hill

by Flipao on Dec 8, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Hill is amazing

and is an amazing person too

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder if he could guard

Post-04 Kobe.

"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker
"Fisher's defense is called escort service in my country, just accompany" -Ibou

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by madmaxx350 on Dec 8, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

not a chance

Kobe kicked it into overdrive after being shown up

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

It's just stupid on so many levels.

You have Daye/Jerebko and a young team. Develop them and build a new core. Success isn’t going to come from clinging onto the remnants of the ‘03’-’04 team.

@brosales12

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by Ben R on Dec 8, 2011 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

he better

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Denver pretty much coming out and saying they've wrapped up Nene to a 5 year deal

but keeping mum on it according to Woj

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:26 PM PST reply actions  

I'm leaving BUT!!! I think that there is too much to this for the Lakers not to get CP3

I think that the Lakers will include something or someone else but this gets done. I don’t see how it doesn’t.

"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant

by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 2:27 PM PST reply actions  

CP3 CP3 CP3

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Well 44 seconds ago

The Hornets are expressing trepidation to those talking to them about three-team framework with Lakers and Rockets, league sources say.

Damn you Woj, I want better info

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:28 PM PST reply actions  

Woj
The Hornets are expressing trepidation to those talking to them about three-team framework with Lakers and Rockets, league sources say.

Twitter feed: @dexterfishmore

by DexterFishmore on Dec 8, 2011 2:29 PM PST reply actions  

balderdash and empty rhetoric?

Slava.
http://www.twitter.com/hobojarpen

by hobojarpen on Dec 8, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Bah.

@brosales12

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by Ben R on Dec 8, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

does that mean that they are just denying the news?

"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant

by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

means they are holding out for a little more candy from us or houston

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

trep·i·da·tion/ˌtrepiˈdāSHən/
Noun:
A feeling of fear or agitation about something that may happen.
Trembling motion

by Flipao on Dec 8, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

thanks

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by imposibol on Dec 8, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

just looked it up :D

"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker
"Fisher's defense is called escort service in my country, just accompany" -Ibou

42-1 on Barebones TDM classic ... BEAT THAT XBOXERS

by madmaxx350 on Dec 8, 2011 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

1 minute too slow sir!

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

woah

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by imposibol on Dec 8, 2011 2:31 PM PST reply actions  

So give me something to believe

"Losing feels worse than winning feels good." -Vin Scully

by Tkuang on Dec 8, 2011 2:33 PM PST reply actions  

well you can ask for it

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

How do the hell do you compare Pujols to the Lebron situation when

Pujols won titles. Or am I wrong?

"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant

by Jelly Bean on Dec 8, 2011 2:34 PM PST reply actions  

You're right.

Different situation, IMO

Lebron tried to make it clear that he wanted to win in Cleveland and ended up leaving to try to win somewhere else.

Pujols already won in STL.

Bamboozled.

by PoPs_737 on Dec 8, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

well Pujols was beloved by the city

while he did win titles there, he was pretty much the end all by all for the city. Statue etc. He basically left for what accounts to be $3 million a year. With how much money he’s already made its just boggling how he would give up being the beloved of a city, a legendary figure etc, for what to him amounts to chump change.

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't see the comparison

LeBron left to win titles, while Pujols left cause he was offered more money.

by shaqfor3 on Dec 8, 2011 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

beloved by a city

Pujols broke a citys heart just like Lebron did, and not for much. Sure the motivation was different but its still breaking a citys heart

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess

LeBron had a more “honorable” reason to leave, but Pujols was kind of underpaid in St. Louis, when taking the sheer production into account. The Cards should have amped up the offer.

by shaqfor3 on Dec 8, 2011 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

200 million was more than enough imo

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

From Alex Kennedy

WTF is going on here?

Source says that the Lakers and Hornets had agreed to a deal involving Chris Paul, but the Lakers reneged. “Dell [Demps] is very upset.”

Twitter feed: @dexterfishmore

by DexterFishmore on Dec 8, 2011 2:36 PM PST reply actions  

from the lakers pov, not so sure what's complicated about pau for cp3, bynum/lo for d12.

the only scenario i can envision the lakers balking at is if NOR suddenly asked for bynum, in which case, demps being upset sounds melodramatic and vacuous.

Slava.
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by hobojarpen on Dec 8, 2011 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I think HoopsWorld is being retarded

Nobody else is tweeting it, so he’s a moron

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't make me go kill off one Buss child

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

yep

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

If there's a deal set then pull the trigger.

I guess there still waiting to see if a DH12 trade will work out first.

Ball don't lie.

by East.Coast.Laker.Fan on Dec 8, 2011 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

hold it right there

who is demp?

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by imposibol on Dec 8, 2011 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

thank you very much

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by imposibol on Dec 8, 2011 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

wtf lakers, pull the trigger!

"Losing feels worse than winning feels good." -Vin Scully

by Tkuang on Dec 8, 2011 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

makes no sense

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

HoopsWorld scrub

hopefully just being a homer for Celtics or something stirring the pot

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

HoopsWorld sucks man come on :)

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL.

Well…there goes CP3 I guess…

Go Sharks!

by Dmitriy on Dec 8, 2011 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

nah HoopsWorld sucks

In Woj We Trust!

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

np

in fact if you want to keep fresh and up to date, just check Adrian Wojnarowski’s twitter page. He updates often and he’s accurate

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Mitch has earned some leeway here. If something caused him to hesitate, it must be valid.

by ishXdavid on Dec 8, 2011 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

there is no hesitating for cp3!

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

There is if the deal hinders us acquiring DH12, who should be the top priority.

by ishXdavid on Dec 8, 2011 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

if Orlando wants Pau and Bynum

they can jump off a cliff

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I just hope that tomorrow morning we find out that Chris Paul paid

Devin Ebanks in twitter followers for his jersey number.

F*** Fairness. F*** Happy Endings. F*** Bad PR. F*** Losing. F*** Guarding 3-point Shooters. These are the tenets of the Black Mamba.
- C.A. Clark (well, except for the last one .. I added that)

by Jason78 on Dec 8, 2011 2:40 PM PST reply actions  

same

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Until I see something from Woj saying the deal is off

I’m not believing it. Woj has been SPOT ON for the past few years.

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:43 PM PST reply actions  

too many conflicting reports...

itz useless to speculate at this point

Da Bears....enuff said

by EmmCeee on Dec 8, 2011 2:46 PM PST reply actions  

then he will die when daddy gets out of the hospital

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Only way I see him hesitating

is if Hornets or houston are demanding Bynum instead of Pau or an odom kicker to the deal. And if that was the case I wouldn’t want the deal anyway. Need to preserve bynum/lo for dwight.

by Barbaroi on Dec 8, 2011 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

agreed

and I doubt they would try for Bynum, the Rockets have been burned by injuries in recent years, they might be a bit shy towards them. Hell with Bynums knees the way they are I’m surprised Portland hasn’t gone all in trying to get him.

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't see any possibility

unless Chicago is offering DRose for Luke Walton

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

billups is irate ahaha

"Losing feels worse than winning feels good." -Vin Scully

by Tkuang on Dec 8, 2011 2:52 PM PST reply actions  

yeah he's pissed

and I understand.

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

LA Times

http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-sp-lakers-20111208,0,3212503.story

This might be outdated tomorrow :)

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:53 PM PST reply actions  

I'll miss him terribly if this goes through

but then we have cp3…

THE POWER OF SHAW COMPELS YOU.. THE POWER OF SHAW COMPELS YOU.....

by imposibol on Dec 8, 2011 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

yep

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I think we are going to be happy

with the results of this offseason regardless of whether or not CP deal goes down. Dwight + chauncey would be a hell of a christmas present (not that I’m giving up on CP + dwight)

by Barbaroi on Dec 8, 2011 2:54 PM PST reply actions  

oh hell yes

upgrade at pg and upgrade at C (which is very hard to do since Bynum is amazing).

I will feel sad to lose Lamar, but he did win his with us, he got a most excellent wife out here as well

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

God I've missed all this basketball hullaballoo.

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by SoCalGal on Dec 8, 2011 2:54 PM PST reply actions  

welcome back baby

How you doing?

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

hey baby

How you doing?

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

no ty

"Losing feels worse than winning feels good." -Vin Scully

by Tkuang on Dec 8, 2011 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

That fucking pisses me off.

You're only a success for the moment that you complete a successful act. - Tex Winter
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by SoCalGal on Dec 8, 2011 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I definitely want Paul.

Not for those two though.

Ball don't lie.

by East.Coast.Laker.Fan on Dec 8, 2011 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Bynum is needed to try and get Dwight Howard. It's stupid to use him for Chris Paul.

You're only a success for the moment that you complete a successful act. - Tex Winter
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by SoCalGal on Dec 8, 2011 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

agreed

Maybe we’ve got a deal with Houston and Orlando? Could Orlando want someone from Houston ?

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

no clue

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

GAH WAIT WTF

Um …. WOj?

The Hornets are near a deal to send Chris Paul to the Lakers for Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom, league source tells Y! Sports.

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:59 PM PST reply actions  

I don't understand wtf

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

WHAT

The Hornets are near a deal to send Chris Paul to the Lakers for Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom, league source tells Y! Sports.

The Hornets have started to inform teams that they’re sending Chris Paul to the Lakers for Bynum and Odom, league sources tell Y! Sports.

by LAL32 on Dec 8, 2011 2:59 PM PST reply actions  

Why the hell?

I don’t understand if we had the framework for Pau why we would trade Bynum, unless we already have a deal with Orlando?

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 3:00 PM PST reply actions  

Oh shit...

so now we’re w/o Odom/Bynum AND Howard. We just got owned.

Go Sharks!

by Dmitriy on Dec 8, 2011 3:00 PM PST reply actions  

LOL so now we're going to get Howard for what?

Gasol, Blake, and Caracter…? sigh

Go Sharks!

by Dmitriy on Dec 8, 2011 3:01 PM PST reply actions  

paul has knee problems man

"Losing feels worse than winning feels good." -Vin Scully

by Tkuang on Dec 8, 2011 3:01 PM PST reply actions  

Pauls knees are fine

He fully recovered from the surgery and has had no issues, he also puts very little wear and tear on them due to his size.

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow this is not good...

After all this excitement I’m starting to feel upset…

Bamboozled.

by PoPs_737 on Dec 8, 2011 3:02 PM PST reply actions  

there goes dwight

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by imposibol on Dec 8, 2011 3:02 PM PST reply actions  

well to be honest Dwight can still force toward us

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

For what? We don't have anything left.

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by SoCalGal on Dec 8, 2011 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Using Bynum to get Howard only should be a no-brainer. And if you do anything else, it shows you have no fucking brain.

Really Lakers? We’re on our way to becoming Phoenix/Miami in 2008.

You're only a success for the moment that you complete a successful act. - Tex Winter
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by SoCalGal on Dec 8, 2011 3:03 PM PST reply actions  

If we can still get Dwight, then great.

Just don’t know how that happens now.

Ball don't lie.

by East.Coast.Laker.Fan on Dec 8, 2011 3:03 PM PST reply actions  

Houston has a lot

we might still be able to use them to trade with Orlando

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

we are then so slim on bigs if they would

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by imposibol on Dec 8, 2011 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I doubt it...but maybe...

Orlando told the Lakers Howard to LA wasn’t an option. Then I guess, we weren’t going to get him anyway. At least then we got Paul. Right?

Go Sharks!

by Dmitriy on Dec 8, 2011 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

If this is true

I believe the Hornets got the better end of this deal.

"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker
"Fisher's defense is called escort service in my country, just accompany" -Ibou

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by madmaxx350 on Dec 8, 2011 3:04 PM PST reply actions  

Only way we get Howard without Bynum is if we give up Kobe, right?

You're only a success for the moment that you complete a successful act. - Tex Winter
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by SoCalGal on Dec 8, 2011 3:04 PM PST reply actions  

Kobe has a no trade so

not gonna happen

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

and not sure about that

with the wealth of picks/etc that Houston has, if they really want Pau, we could hook them up with Pau to get Howard

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by Vmuse on Dec 8, 2011 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Would we still be getting Okafor as part of this?

Becuase if not, I have no idea what’s going on, because we’ll have zero size on the inside anymore.

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by ZeroIndulgence on Dec 8, 2011 3:04 PM PST reply actions  

WAIT

If it’s suddenly Bynum/LO for CP3, it sounds like a straight up deal, with HOU no longer involved. Now does that mean that HOU will become a third team in a deal for D12 in which ORL gets Martin/Scola/Pieces/Picks and HOU gets Pau? Because, frankly, if that’s not the case, I’m speechless. Actually, I’m speechless either way.

Slava.
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by hobojarpen on Dec 8, 2011 3:05 PM PST reply actions  

I hope so..

but I doubt it

Bamboozled.

by PoPs_737 on Dec 8, 2011 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

no deal howie!

"Losing feels worse than winning feels good." -Vin Scully

by Tkuang on Dec 8, 2011 3:05 PM PST reply actions  

Isn’t one of the NBA GM commandments, “Thou shalt not trade big for small”??

by ishXdavid on Dec 8, 2011 3:05 PM PST reply actions  

w00t!
RT @sam_amick: Source confirms @wojyahoonba tweet that rival execs being told by New Orleans that Chris Paul is headed to the Lakers

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 8, 2011 3:06 PM PST reply actions  

I feel bad for Hornet fans

they dont have much of an incentive anymore

by shaqfor3 on Dec 8, 2011 3:06 PM PST reply actions  

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