Lakers 91, Kings 100: Still Losers, No Longer Likable
by C.A. Clark on Dec 26, 2011 11:07 PM PST
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PrintYesterday, the Los Angeles Lakers combined a gritty defensive effort with sharp offensive ball movement to build a lead against one of the teams projected to be among the league's best. They were energetic, they executed, they were ... fun. They were likable. And in the end, only some team-wide poor late game execution spoiled what would otherwise have been a perfect start to the NBA season. Don't worry, though, the Lakers managed to get everything squared away in 24 hours.
No, not the late game execution part. That's still terrible. Instead, the Lakers managed to "fix" all the qualities about yesterday's effort that might have brought a smile to your face and hope to your heart. Tonight, the Lakers D looked every bit as old and slow as we thought they might, since the roster is filled with players who are old and slow. The Lakers struggled to create shots, as we thought they might, since the roster has very few people capable of creating shots for themselves or others. They lacked energy, as we thought they might, because the roster is not strong enough or deep enough to provide the main contributors with quality rest. Tonight, the Lakers were our worst nightmare of what they can be this season, with none of last season's problems solved, and a host of new ones created by an off-season in which all but the most optimistic of fans will admit the Lakers got worse.
That's not panic you hear in my voice. It's resignation.
If not for last season ending with the Game 4 debacle, it would be tough to remember a game in which there were so few positives to take away from the game. Metta World Peace just about makes the entire list. He ably bullied his defenders, primarily Travis Outlaw, into repeatedly decent looks in and around the hoop, and then added a couple mid range jumpers for good measure in the 2nd half. His 19 points on 14 shots off the bench was easily the highlight of the night for the Lakers. He's joined in the happy column by fellow small forwards. Devin Ebanks continues to make the shots he takes at an exceedingly high clip, though the lack of translation of his success into more playing time (despite being the starter) means that the coaches still don't have full faith in the youngster. And Matt Barnes came in to provide the entire Matt Barnes package in just 14 minutes ... great hustle, active defense (he had 3 blocks in those 14 minutes) and one terribly missed three pointer.
And that, my friends, is the entire "good" list. The Lakers defense most certainly did not pick up where they left off yesterday. 24 hours ago, the Laker bigs hedged screens well and prevented penetration. Today, either the hedging wasn't working, or the screen was simply not necessary, as the Kings perimeter players got into the lane at will. The timely three point shooting which made the Lakers bench appear to be much better than advertised yesterday crashed to earth in stunning fashion, as the Lakers managed to hit just 6% of their deep attempts. But enough about team failures, let's get back to the individual "accolades".
Kobe Bryant backed up yesterday's effort with something very similar, posting a respectable 29 points on 24 shots, with 5 boards and 6 assists. He turned the ball over just twice (the Lakers as a team only turned the ball over on 10% of their possessions, which is a huge improvement over what we've seen so far this year). But he didn't shoot all that well from the field, and once again took tough shots down the stretch, none of which went in. Troy Murphy did his job, with 8 points and 8 boards. And the rest of the team was garbage. Josh McRoberts played just 21 minutes from a starting position, despite the fact that he didn't have a single foul. I haven't seen enough of McRoberts to know what kind of player he is, but I've seen enough to know what kind of player he isn't, and that is one that provides much of anything outside of dunks and layups on offense. He's a good passer out of the post, but I've yet to see him successfully navigate a post move to the basket, nor drain any kind of outside shot. Steve Blake did something I could never have thought possible ... he made me question his shot selection in the way I might with Kobe Bryant, being far too aggressive and taking a couple of bad three point attempts that led to fast break layups for the Kings. Andrew Goudelock did what rookies do and crashed back to earth. But the worst of all is reserved for the staples of any self-depricating Lakers fan's arsenal ... Pau Gasol, Derek Fisher and Luke Walton.
We all love our Fish and Luke jokes, but this is serious. Both guys continue to get too much playing time. For Fisher, that means the bulk of the minutes at lead guard, 30 in all. What he did with those 30 minutes would be enough to infuriate the Dalai Lama. He repeatedly jacked up contested shots, at one point looking off Josh McRoberts to launch a three, when McBob was closer to the basket than he was to ANY Kings defender. He got worked on offense no matter who he was guarding, of course, but the man hasn't been a net positive on offense in over two years. It really is a mystery how he can continue to command so many minutes on the court. The triangle is gone, and he wasn't all that useful in that offense to begin with. He is only a good defender when he's outnumbered by at least a 2 to 1 margin. There is no humor to be found in the statement that the Derek Fisher era needs to end. And Luke Walton ... should not be playing in an NBA game. He should definitely not be playing in an NBA game that isn't 100% already determined. Which makes the fact that Luke was apparently ahead of Matt Barnes on the depth chart to start this game a true and incomprehensible mystery. I get that a certain amount of experimentation is necessary to figure out your best rotations, Mike Brown, but if you needed just five minutes to figure out that Luke Walton is no longer capable of being an NBA player, then you probably didn't need those five minutes in the first place.
And Pau Gasol had one of the most Pau Gasol games ever. He was terrible in the first half, with 2 points on 1-5 shooting, and didn't bother to look interested or engaged until the 4th quarter, when he came alive to the tune of 8 points on 4-5 shooting. That all would have been great, except that with the lead cut to 5 with two minutes to play, Chuck Hayes of the Sacramento Kings went to the free throw line. He made the first, and missed the second, and Gasol got out-worked by DeMarcus Cousins for the offensive board. A resulting shooting foul sent Tyreke Evans to the line. He made the first and missed the second ... and Pau Gasol ended up fouling Cousins, who outworked Gasol again. Cousins missed his 2nd FT attempt too, and the Lakers nearly missed that board as well. 8 point game with two minutes left, game over, thanks for playing. As sure as the sun rises, some scribe is going to look at Pau Gasol's box score tomorrow, hear about how Pau had a sprained shoulder, and think to himself, "decent game for Gasol there. Lakers should have gotten him the ball more". That scribe will be wrong, incredibly, terribly wrong. I have no idea how much Gasol's shoulder is a burden to him, and I hate to shit on a guy playing through injury, but if ever there's a reason why Gasol's game is valued less by his own team's fans than by all others, tonight was it.
So that's your lot, and it's quite the message of doom and gloom. It is obviously too soon to give up on the Lakers' chances this year. The season is only two games old. The Kings shot the ball better than can be expected on a regular basis. Andrew Bynum is yet to take the court, and you can be sure the Lakers would be at least one game to the good if Drew were around to clear things up on the glass and protect the rim from the drives of annoyingly quick guards like Derrick Rose and Tyreke Evans. The team is adapting to a new coach with new defensive and offensive preferences, and that takes more time than the hastily assembled two-week training camp allowed for. The Lakers can get better as the season goes on, they should get better as the season goes on.
But two games is a greater sample size than one, and here's what game 2 told us. The Lakers continue to have terrible late game execution. It doesn't even matter anymore who you want to blame for this, the simple fact is no one should have any confidence in this team's ability to close out a game, from in front or behind, until we're given evidence to the contrary. We also know that either A) it took all of one game, a loss no less, for the Lakers to come to the conclusion that it is acceptable to play with lower energy against lesser opponents or B) that the Lakers lack depth and conditioning enough that playing the 2nd game of a back-to-back, of which there will be many in fast and furious conditions, will be a significant factor in how much energy they can bring into a game. If I'm honest, I'm not sure which possibility troubles me more.
This is not a lottery-bound team (unless one or more of the big three goes down for a very lengthy period of time). But it sure as hell doesn't seem like a championship bound team either, and around these parts, that's the only standard that matters.
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Ugh, back to the autopsy reports.
You're only a success for the moment that you complete a successful act. - Tex Winter
Tweetness
MAC was hurt FWIW. Sprained toe
I’m still holding out on this team till Bynum returns. Might as well rest Kobe and go 0-4
Faith is remaining certain in the face of doubt. You’re not sure how it’s going to end, but you’re constantly of the belief that it will end the way you want it to and the way you always believed it to end, and that’s on top - Derek Fisher
Thank the Lord the team's faith is probably a touch more steely
than its fanbase.
It’s quite possible they’ll go 0-3 tonight too. I can’t imagine the new levels of short-sighted hysteria will be reached if that happens.
The sky is not falling, but it does have to be stitched back together again. And that might take longer than a freaking day or two.
by jahidi_jones on Dec 27, 2011 1:50 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Posted this in the 2nd half thread.
1) The defense was terrible. We were repeatedly lax and allowed the Kings guards to brokeback us all night long (penetrate + kickout). Kobe, why the heck were you in the paint on defense when Thornton was floating around the 3PT line? Even though we outboarded SAC, it really felt like they controlled and bullied their way on majority of the 50-50 rebounds.
2) The offense was just as choppy. Kobe yet again chose to "rise above pain" by "diving head first into a cesspool of mediocrity". I thought our penchant for overdribbling disappeared when Shannon moved onto Phoenix, but Kobe proved me wrong tonight. At least he cut down on his TOs, but his overdribbling clogged the offense multiple times. I think the ridiculous structurelessness of the offense was best exemplified when Fisher went iso sometime during the 2nd/3rd quarter. THERE IS NO WAY THAT FISHER SHOULD EVER HAVE MORE SHOTS THAN MCBOB, EBANKS AND BLAKE COMBINED. Moreover, Fisher and Kobe missed a lot of open guys tonight. When World Peace is your best offensive player, you know your offense was screwy that night.
3) Poor depth chart decisions really stood out tonight. There is no way on God’s green earth that Walton should EVER be ahead of Matt Barnes on the depth chart. I’d even argue that Barnes should get more minutes than World Peace. Also, as mentioned previously, Brown needs to think long and hard about finding a way to give PT to Darius Morris, even at the cost of Fisher’s minutes. Giving Morris solid PT would alleviate Kobe’s ballhandling duties and allow him to become more efficient by playing off the ball more (something that will also increase when Bynum comes back).
4) Tonight was a prime example of why Bynum is important to the team. Pau just got outmuscled by Hayes and Cousins. A lot of rebounds were missed simply because Pau was our center instead of Drew. Having Drew in the paint would have allowed our guards to closeout harder on 3PTs. On offense, having Drew as a second legit post option allows more read & reacts instead of awkward, choppy iso plays. With Pau being our only legit big/post player who was largely nullified by the defense of Hayes and DMC, it’s little wonder why our offense stunk tonight.
Overall, if we were lovable losers yesterday, we were straight up lazy losers tonight. It’s a good thing tomorrow’s game vs. Utah is back home, otherwise, if it were in SLC, I was going to start mentally preparing myself for an 0-3 start.
Slava.
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by bluexfalcon on Dec 27, 2011 12:36 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I'd prepare for that 0-3
depth at SF (with MWP getting his best game of the year out of the way) – but where else? Is there a dependable 2nd option? Bynum coming back (assuming he stays healthy) will allow them to outmuscle a lot of teams – but Sac didn’t even play it’s best game with the refs being more than unfriendly to DeMarcus Cousins – who is showing signs of growing up.
Forget about contending, can they win the division? It’s too early to know but . .
"Victory goes to the player who makes the next-to-last mistake."
- Chessmaster Savielly Grigorievitch Tartakower
by lietothegirls on Dec 27, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
Patience...
They definitely aren’t as terrible as they were tonight.
They definitely aren’t as good as they were on Christmas.
Meanwhile, the Bulls lost to Golden State…
Does that mean the Clippers really are the best California team?
The defenseless Huskies vs a Heisman Trophy winner. I smell shenanigans ahead!
A new Mike Brown era has begun.
let's wait until 'Drew comes back
to make that assessment
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Dec 27, 2011 7:18 AM PST up reply actions
So many problems
Inactive Morris
Existence of Luke Walton
Barnes buried deep in the bench
Far too many 1-on-1 possessions
All 5 players clogging the paint for no reason and leaving wide open 3s
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Coach has to meet us halfway
agreed!
again…why is darius morris on the inactive list? i dont understand. 1 preseason gm, and 3 inactive’s…wth mike brown!? this kid can play, but you have luke walton 0out there? smh…..the dude will realize well into its all too late.
by Mark Jaramillo on Dec 27, 2011 8:53 AM PST up reply actions
Yep...
There is NO WAY D-Mo could have played any worse than Fisher even if he had played on one leg. Give the kid a shot. And Luke Walton? Why is he still playing basketball? It’s a crime! Finally, Ebanks needs a few more shots. He has shown he can shoot, why on earth is he not getting more minutes when we’re desperate for outside shooting (or any kind of offense for that matter)!
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Yup I got in there, had 2 it's the lakers
I’m getting a work schedule change as soon as possible
"Hardwork beats talent when talent fails to work hard"-Norm Nixon
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be committed against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the Limelight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
I'm on it so let's tweet: @B_M_Bizness
by BrittneyM on Dec 26, 2011 11:37 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
shit had no idea i posted that much.
I apologize if you get mad by what I say, let me know when you take the stick out of your ass so I can continue commenting.
does this count the posts from the game thread from The Bar?
lol
I apologize if you get mad by what I say, let me know when you take the stick out of your ass so I can continue commenting.
Whoa 0-2 no need to panic
There is still plenty of games left and for Andrew Bynum to return
"Hardwork beats talent when talent fails to work hard"-Norm Nixon
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be committed against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the Limelight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
I'm on it so let's tweet: @B_M_Bizness
by BrittneyM on Dec 26, 2011 11:35 PM PST via mobile reply actions
you are like the last person that i would expect to hear that from
Lakers fan since the first grade.
Lol I'm trying not to complain alot
Lots of folks tell me that
"Hardwork beats talent when talent fails to work hard"-Norm Nixon
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be committed against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the Limelight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
I'm on it so let's tweet: @B_M_Bizness
by BrittneyM on Dec 26, 2011 11:37 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Lol that's messed up
"Hardwork beats talent when talent fails to work hard"-Norm Nixon
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be committed against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the Limelight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
I'm on it so let's tweet: @B_M_Bizness
by BrittneyM on Dec 26, 2011 11:40 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
lmao what the hell
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
LOL, right?
You're only a success for the moment that you complete a successful act. - Tex Winter
Tweetness
you said it so I don't have to
The defenseless Huskies vs a Heisman Trophy winner. I smell shenanigans ahead!
A new Mike Brown era has begun.
Ohhhh hell to the yeah
When will they learn
"Hardwork beats talent when talent fails to work hard"-Norm Nixon
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be committed against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the Limelight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
I'm on it so let's tweet: @B_M_Bizness
by BrittneyM on Dec 26, 2011 11:38 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Make fisher play 15 min off the bench
It is time, what’s mike brown email, I’ll write him myself
"Hardwork beats talent when talent fails to work hard"-Norm Nixon
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be committed against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the Limelight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
I'm on it so let's tweet: @B_M_Bizness
by BrittneyM on Dec 26, 2011 11:39 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Welcome to SSR!
I’m a Cavs fan.
The defenseless Huskies vs a Heisman Trophy winner. I smell shenanigans ahead!
A new Mike Brown era has begun.
lol.
good for you Brittney.
I haven’t exactly been on team Bynum up til this point myself, but Josh McRoberts is not a viable replacement (or a stellar addition to the team really) in my book, not even close, and we need Bynum. I want Bynum. There, I said it too.
I agree
The effort tonight was poor even for a the second game of a back to back to back. Bottom line, that’s the reason why we lost this game. Give credit to the Kings though, they played lights out and made the Lakers pay for their lax attitude.
As a side note, our first 3 games while back to back to back also are all against well rested teams playing the first games of their season. In other words, I don’t expect to win tomorrow, but I will be happy if we do.
by 82 games of pain! on Dec 26, 2011 11:38 PM PST reply actions
I got used to it before too long.
The defenseless Huskies vs a Heisman Trophy winner. I smell shenanigans ahead!
A new Mike Brown era has begun.
as long as no records for futility are broken
there’s never such a thing as too many losses
The defenseless Huskies vs a Heisman Trophy winner. I smell shenanigans ahead!
A new Mike Brown era has begun.
Agreed and its Hard to finish work also
"Hardwork beats talent when talent fails to work hard"-Norm Nixon
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be committed against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the Limelight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
I'm on it so let's tweet: @B_M_Bizness
by BrittneyM on Dec 26, 2011 11:42 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
oh dear
What happens to you?
The defenseless Huskies vs a Heisman Trophy winner. I smell shenanigans ahead!
A new Mike Brown era has begun.
Well,
I think I’m just unpleasant, and rude.
She describes me as being “Snappy”. My mom calls it “taking a game too seriously”. My dad calls it “being a real fan”.
Uhh, for the good of your relationship...
I’d drop the “sour-puss fan” routine this season. Aint nuthin but trouble in your future – unless you like the couch.
Yeah losses frustrate the shit out of me
But I don’t lose sleep over them
Guess I’m not a true Laker fan then
Coach has to meet us halfway
lol
And our mentality here is “it’s just a regular season/Lakers will step up during play-off only”.
by Division by Zero on Dec 27, 2011 7:35 AM PST up reply actions
Blah,
I’m not worried about the consequences, I’m worried about the performance. I got all the doubt I was hoping to avoid from Mike Brown, and saw a lot of terrible signs.
I don't wanna argue,
especially when I’m already upset, but I don’t agree, and I don’t have to admit that, since I don’t think it’s true. Barnes playing 6 more minutes probably wouldn’t have made a difference, but Walton played like total crap when he was in, and Barnes played really well. It’s the coach’s decision to put players in, and putting Walton in over Barnes is always bad. Always.
When was the last Laker win?
Game 6 vs NO? That feels like a long, long time ago.
I know things will get better, and I know the season is still in its infancy, but wow — I can’t see this team finishing atop the WC, Drew or no Drew. Too much crazy shit going on, too few problems correctly addressed in the off-season. We looked old and slow and disorganized, except for MWP who put up some good numbers off the bench. Mitch must be popping TUMS like crazy these days.
Tornadoes suck.
lakers losing streak started on may 2nd
how you doin'
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by bluexfalcon on Dec 27, 2011 12:39 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
mitch is the one who put this team together...
he should be popping some valium’s. bottom line jerry/jim decided to keep this same core together, not wanting to make any moves in lasts yrs trade deadline, it bit them in the ass, and now, the lakers are paying for it every single game. why the lakers havent amnestied either MWP, or luke walton, hell even derek fisher, is beyond me.
we praised mitch for bringing gasol, and seeing him help the lakers win back to back championships, now? he is responsible for bringing in troy murphy, and mcbob, (deal with you nickname dude its yours!), im trying to be positive here, i really am, but getting spoiled by this team all these yrs, gets you into a state of flux, when the times start getting rough. im used to excellence, and now im going to have to brace myself for another rebuilding project for a couple of yrs.
i used to say…“the lakers dont rebuild…they reload!”, but knowing tha kobe is going into his twilight, who are the lakers going to build around? bynum? love the kid, if he makes it out of this 62 gm season unscathed, then ill believe. the lakers have no face after kobe is gone, thats why i want for the lakers to start making moves emmidiatly, go after howard, igoudala, josh smith, someone! if the lakers want to make a push THIS yr? like i posted last night, i know the guy is 37 yrs old…but why not steve nash?
the guy can still ball, but most importantly he can score! i dont know, 2 gms in like C.A. said, but with the lakers on a 7 gm losing streak ( im counting the preseason), im just going to have to wait and see…i guess.
by Mark Jaramillo on Dec 27, 2011 9:09 AM PST up reply actions
Like I mentioned before...
Mitch and/or Jim Buss are asleep at the wheel, or ridiculously inept. The Gasol trade never would have happened without the help of Jerry West. I mean we are in dire need of a PG and they don’t even bid 3 or 4 mil for Billups? They trade away Odom for nothing hoping that trade exception “MAY” bring over Dwight Howard (not bothering to shop him to at least a lottery bound team that way we can get a nice piece this upcoming deep draft if things don’t work out with Howard), they sign Jason Kapono but don’t go after quick, pesky dudes like that little Robinson guy. Even a couple of years back they got rid of decent big men like Turiaf and Mbenga and decided to sign Luke Walton to an expensive, long term contract. Maybe they’ll prove me wrong next year when they sign Deron and Dwight, otherwise we have the new version of a cheapskate Sterling in our midst.
Besides Kobe's D and him forcing the ball too much and over dribbling
I wonder and am surprised by Brown’s rotations or the lack of him rotating certain players at all like Barnes and the other rookie guard.
I apologize if you get mad by what I say, let me know when you take the stick out of your ass so I can continue commenting.
Utah Jazz tomorrow.
This is a win, right? Right?!
by Ador08 on Dec 26, 2011 11:50 PM PST via mobile reply actions
That's what we said about today's game yesterday.
Tornadoes suck.
by st0rmchaser on Dec 26, 2011 11:53 PM PST up reply actions
It's going to be hard to win tomorrow
with it being 3rd game in the row. And McRoberts being injured with a sprained left big toe.
by BoneCruncher24 on Dec 27, 2011 12:13 AM PST up reply actions
it beats chasing tornadoes
The defenseless Huskies vs a Heisman Trophy winner. I smell shenanigans ahead!
A new Mike Brown era has begun.
Uh, no it doesn't!
Not even close.
Tornadoes suck.
by st0rmchaser on Dec 26, 2011 11:58 PM PST up reply actions
I'd be absolutely poop-in-pants terrified at getting up close and personal with a tornado
The defenseless Huskies vs a Heisman Trophy winner. I smell shenanigans ahead!
A new Mike Brown era has begun.
I see your point, but ...
nature’s fury is incredible and beautiful. Plus in the spring, you get a lot of fair weather days to go sightseeing. But when it’s crunch time and you’re bearing down on even a modest tornado, it’s as exciting as a Finals game (with the Lakers ahead, of course).
Tornadoes suck.
by st0rmchaser on Dec 27, 2011 12:01 AM PST up reply actions
That's good
Me, I find Linear Algebra to be incredible and beautiful, but that’s for another story.
The defenseless Huskies vs a Heisman Trophy winner. I smell shenanigans ahead!
A new Mike Brown era has begun.
Ah, a math major
I was physics when physics wasn’t cool.
Tornadoes suck.
by st0rmchaser on Dec 27, 2011 12:03 AM PST up reply actions
Can't help feeling
that the league really wants the Heat to win this year.
Conspiracy theory alert, but watching all of this year’s NBA adverts, I only saw one cut of Kobe and another brief cut of a blurry Pau and some Lakers players. I can’t help get this feeling of indignation that players from the Celtics, Heat, Orlando, Chicago, New York, Phoenix, etc get so much screen time during these ads, while the Lakers, with their historic franchise, only got two lousy screen caps. Even the poor Spurs have been jilted. Most of these ads have been focusing on the young “superstars” poised to take over the league and it seems like Stern and the NBA really want that to happen asap. I think they’re tired of seeing none of these young “superstars” win a championship and take over the league as the new faces when older generation players like Kobe, Dirk, etc keep winning.
Dunno, this was just something I’ve been thinking as I distract myself from tonight’s loss and getting spammed with the new BIG NBA ads.
Lakers 2009 Road to Redemption: TREVOR, DEREK, LAMAR, PAU & KOBE.
Play the game of which Lakers reminds you of: Devin Ebanks - TA - TI, Shannon Brown - Chris Brown, Pau Gasol - Jesus, Machine - Luis Scola/Russell Brand, PJ with mustache and beard - Colonel Sanders.
by PeanutButterSpread on Dec 27, 2011 12:06 AM PST reply actions
I saw something similar
and was left with the same feeling. You’re not alone. This is not going to be a Laker year by order of David Stern. And he’ll fine anyone (but us) who says it.
Tornadoes suck.
by st0rmchaser on Dec 27, 2011 12:08 AM PST up reply actions
I got that feeling when I saw what Stern said
During the Mavs/Heat opener when he was gushing about how “special” Lebron James was. Made me want to puke and throw something at a wall. What sealed if for me was his reason for nixing the initial CP3 deal to the Lakers, giving a lame excuse about wanting a “younger,” “fresher” team.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-stern-openers
Lakers 2009 Road to Redemption: TREVOR, DEREK, LAMAR, PAU & KOBE.
Play the game of which Lakers reminds you of: Devin Ebanks - TA - TI, Shannon Brown - Chris Brown, Pau Gasol - Jesus, Machine - Luis Scola/Russell Brand, PJ with mustache and beard - Colonel Sanders.
by PeanutButterSpread on Dec 27, 2011 12:12 AM PST up reply actions
It must be deeper than simple revenge against Derek Fisher
for representing the union.
Tornadoes suck.
by st0rmchaser on Dec 27, 2011 12:14 AM PST up reply actions
They probably do.
I don’t subscribe to any conspiracy theorists, but I’d bet money the NBA (not so)subtly wants to promote people being Heat fans. It’s crap.
I strongly feel a Heat/OKC Finals unfolding
no matter what the Lakers do, now that we’ve been denied CP3.
Tornadoes suck.
by st0rmchaser on Dec 27, 2011 12:15 AM PST up reply actions
I would never root for Miami
but I feel it coming on. I hope the Bulls shred the Heat if they face each other.
Tornadoes suck.
by st0rmchaser on Dec 27, 2011 12:17 AM PST up reply actions
Sadly, I don't think the Bulls are as good as the Heat
Truth be told, I think last year, the Bulls overachieved with DRose playing out of his mind. This year, I fully expect to see Miami in the finals again. The only team that I think can really stand a chance at beating the Heat, when healthy, is Boston, as icky as that was for me to say.
Lakers 2009 Road to Redemption: TREVOR, DEREK, LAMAR, PAU & KOBE.
Play the game of which Lakers reminds you of: Devin Ebanks - TA - TI, Shannon Brown - Chris Brown, Pau Gasol - Jesus, Machine - Luis Scola/Russell Brand, PJ with mustache and beard - Colonel Sanders.
by PeanutButterSpread on Dec 27, 2011 12:22 AM PST up reply actions
Heat vs OKC
and Heat wins it. Face the music, Laker fans (myself included), we ain’t doing shit this year. (LeBron or Stern, which do we despise more?)
Tornadoes suck.
by st0rmchaser on Dec 27, 2011 12:29 AM PST up reply actions
same here
but my god…their offense is so…so…bad. I thought they were going to address this problem after getting exposed in the ECF.
The defenseless Huskies vs a Heisman Trophy winner. I smell shenanigans ahead!
A new Mike Brown era has begun.
To be honest,
they really need to develop some skills. I’m always really underwhelmed by NBA players (With a couple exceptions) not improving their knowledge of the game. Part of the reason Hamilton used to get open so much is just how smart the other players on the team were, helping him get open, helping create passing lanes, and realizing where he’d be and being able to pass him the ball. The Bulls have hard working, energy players. They SHOULD be able to do the same. I just really hope they do.
I'm underwhelmed by this characterization of NBA players
they’ve played with Hamilton 4 times. They don’t even know where he’s going to be yet lol.
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
This is one reason why I like the WNBA.
It’s free of this stuff.
The defenseless Huskies vs a Heisman Trophy winner. I smell shenanigans ahead!
A new Mike Brown era has begun.
Has the talent in the WNBA improved?
I’ve always been supremely underwhelmed, but I also haven’t watched in years. That said, I hate the things off the court in the NBA, but the game that I love is played at such a high level I can’t even pretend to stay away.
immensly
the generation of young women entering the league in this decade grew up watching the professional league on TV. The competition is better, and the franchises are becoming more stable and less likely to fold. It’s only 15 years old. Of course, you won’t get to see high flying, chest thumping, trashing talking, alley ooping, or monster jamming, which are all things I’m fine without.
The defenseless Huskies vs a Heisman Trophy winner. I smell shenanigans ahead!
A new Mike Brown era has begun.
This is a shallow comment re the WNBA
But it’s something I’ve felt for a long time. Besides getting rid of those circus bballs they thrown around, the WNBA also needs an upgrade in the uniforms. I abhor the baggy clothing + NCAA t-shirt look on the women and feel like the resistance must be horrible. I’m not asking for skintight unis that show off their legs, nor do I want it to become something of a circus like the tennis unis have become, but I do would like the ladies of the WNBA to have better looking, form-fitting uniforms.
Part of the reason why I like watching the NBA as a gal, is that the men look like warriors in their uniforms … at least the Lakers men do, Bobcat players not so much.
Lakers 2009 Road to Redemption: TREVOR, DEREK, LAMAR, PAU & KOBE.
Play the game of which Lakers reminds you of: Devin Ebanks - TA - TI, Shannon Brown - Chris Brown, Pau Gasol - Jesus, Machine - Luis Scola/Russell Brand, PJ with mustache and beard - Colonel Sanders.
by PeanutButterSpread on Dec 27, 2011 12:28 AM PST up reply actions
Like this?
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3060/2921604244_2e1abcef43_o.jpg
The defenseless Huskies vs a Heisman Trophy winner. I smell shenanigans ahead!
A new Mike Brown era has begun.
I agree with all of this
Hii PBS
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by bluexfalcon on Dec 27, 2011 12:43 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I'm sorry Wave
but the age of the league has nothing to do with why there isn’t any of the things you mentioned except financial viability. lol.
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
I normally loathe the conspiracy theories regarding the NBA too
But with what happened with the CP3 deal and with the new NBA ads, it’s starting to become this ugly charade that I can’t help feel unsettled over.
Lakers 2009 Road to Redemption: TREVOR, DEREK, LAMAR, PAU & KOBE.
Play the game of which Lakers reminds you of: Devin Ebanks - TA - TI, Shannon Brown - Chris Brown, Pau Gasol - Jesus, Machine - Luis Scola/Russell Brand, PJ with mustache and beard - Colonel Sanders.
by PeanutButterSpread on Dec 27, 2011 12:18 AM PST up reply actions
A lot of folks feel the Lakers have been handed playoff games by ref calls
I have no idea how much truth there is to that, but this might be Stern’s effort to compensate for that sentiment — by screwing the Lakers.
Tornadoes suck.
by st0rmchaser on Dec 27, 2011 12:19 AM PST up reply actions
Not to dwell on the subject
But there was a lot of questionable legal discrepancy over the 2002 WCF games and other games all relating to the refs/stern… Not saying I’m a believer or anything but it does get one thinking.
by Skives47 on Dec 27, 2011 1:17 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Its called Marketing. Who is young and exciting
on the Lakers? Kobe is the 2000’s and Pau and Bynum are non-descript. Mr. Kardashian might have gotten the Lakers more face time, but he’s a Mav.
And people wonder why some were worried bout the Lakers to srart the year
pg play was horrible on offense or defense. We might as well go with the rookie and live with his mistakes. He can’t possibly do any worse than Fisher. Relying on kobe to create everything isnt gonna work. Relying on Pau to play like “the most skilled big man in the league” consistently seems like too tall an order for him. Im hoping Drew coming back helps but we need another playmaker in the worst way. Arenas anyone?
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by EmmCeee on Dec 27, 2011 12:20 AM PST via Android app reply actions
cant wait for David Sterns first Lakers home game
since the CP3 trade screw job. Hope the fans give him everything he deserves. With no violence of course. Throwing stuff isn’t violence, right?
by Ador08 on Dec 27, 2011 12:22 AM PST via mobile reply actions
depends on whether you light it before you throw it
Tornadoes suck.
by st0rmchaser on Dec 27, 2011 12:23 AM PST up reply actions
cant wait for David Sterns first Lakers home game
since the CP3 trade screw job. Hope the fans give him everything he deserves. With no violence of course. Throwing stuff isn’t violence, right?
by Ador08 on Dec 27, 2011 12:22 AM PST via mobile reply actions
QUITE honestly... a non-b*tching Lamar Odom on the bench would've helped a lot too
And what’s with Gasol and his screen and “rolls” with Bryant. Since yesterday, he’s been waltzing to the basket on those plays
Have you seen LO's numbers so far?
He’s worse than any of our guys except Luke.
Tornadoes suck.
by st0rmchaser on Dec 27, 2011 12:25 AM PST up reply actions
Trades usually do that though,
but I’m past the LO thing. I love the guy, but gotta focus on the present.
Concur
I wish him the best. Just not against us. Seeing LO, Ariza, and Horry leave were tough.
Tornadoes suck.
by st0rmchaser on Dec 27, 2011 12:31 AM PST up reply actions
Apr 28th, 2011
The last time we won a game. It’s been almost exactly 8 months.
How would you have reacted if, after game 6 against the Hornets, someone had told you the Lakers wouldn’t win again for 8 months?
Brain explosion commecing in 5, 4, 3, 2....
- If we trade Bynum for Howard, I have a feeling Orlando will demand Ebanks on top of everything else.
- The Clips have 3 All-Star point guards and the Lakers don’t have 1 NBA-caliber starting PG. Where the fuck is Darth Stern with his parity crusade and veto mind tricks to make this right?
- Kobe’s not just in denial about his own decline in ability, but also Derek Fisher’s.
- Magic Johnson has been talking so much shit about the Lakers lately that he’s tarnishing his legacy as the all-time greatest Laker. Kobe gets his spot in my book.
- Billy MacDonald isn’t as bad as I dreaded, he’s even tolerable. Yet getting MacDonald instead of Spero Dedes is like getting Steve Blake instead of CP3. Only in the Twilight Zone could we lose both those guys, right?
- MWP was charged-up and inspired when he joined us by the prospect of a championship. Then he flattened out. Now he’s got that same fire by being in charge of the second unit. Brown has him figured out like PJ never did.
- As much as I distrust Jim Buss and still love Lamar Odom, it was Lamar’s emotional attachments and bad judgements that fucked us over.
- Mike Brown’s horrible rotation in Game2 came after what I thought was a fantastic rotation in Game1. (I’m probably alone in not wanting Barnes on the team). Hopefully Brown is just feeling things out and giving guys like Fish and Luke enough rope to hang themselves so he can cut their minutes.
- It seems like the Lakers are still in training camp while everyone else is off and running. That’s possibly forgivable given all he changes we’re going through. We can lap the field if a few factors fall into place.
- MWP now known as M-WTFhowdhedothat-P.
- This team is backwards: their offense seems to spark their defense. Since there is no offensive focus by a floor general type PG, everything they do is inconsistent and chaotic.
- A solid play-maker could change the course of the season; a small adjustment could make this a championship-caliber team.
- This year feels like it’s going to be dominated by injuries.
"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec
magic has every right to talk shit
he knows what this franchize is capable of, and like us fans, he wants perfection as well.
by Mark Jaramillo on Dec 27, 2011 9:17 AM PST up reply actions
I can't help but disagree with much of this
Number 1, No Barnes means more Luke when injuries happen. Sorry, not going to possibly agree with you there.
Number 2, what does Kobe have to do with fisher being the PG and calling his own number?
Number 3, Actually we are not the opposite at all. Our offense has been best on the run when other teams haven’t had a chance to get set and we run through to get an open shot quickly. the slower sets have not been our friends at all. And Mike Brown knows this as he SCREAMS and JUMPS on the sideline for them to run the ball up the court to initiate the offense. We must do it while the defense is on their heels, instead we slow it down too much out of the nature of the beast from last year’s triangle.
Number 4, to reinforce part 1 Mike brown’s rotation was messed up cuz McBob was messed up and he needed someone to go in and lo and behold what happens when Barnes isn’t on the depth chart
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
what i dont understand..
is why darius morris isnt playing. thats what i want to know. wth’s going there? i thought he did a pretty damn good job the very first gm.
by Mark Jaramillo on Dec 27, 2011 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
prolly same reason Barnes isn't playing more
either not completely familiar with system or unshaky with the shooting
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
As you've stated 67 times.
You're only a success for the moment that you complete a successful act. - Tex Winter
Tweetness
Eight Losses In A Row and Counting
Tonight should be interesting.
Milsap, Jeffrerson, Favors and Kanter vs MacPau MacBob and MacMurphy ouch.
The Laker PGs are the problem and will be all season long
Two games in and the PGs are getting torched. The recipe to beat the Lakers is there for all to see.
Then Gasol is as soft as soft can be. He may be the most skilled big man in the league but he is also the most soft.
There is a reason why they were willing to trade him to get CP3. They needed a PG in the worst way and Pau is just too soft. He is easily pushed off the block by any PF in the league. Brian Cook was pushing him off the block in game one.
If I am Buss and Kupchek, I would look at seeing if Houston still wanted Gasol. I would take the package they were offering of Scola, Martin, Dragic and a first round pick. I also would want them to take back Blake. Maybe the Lakers will have to throw in some cash too.
Then I would see what Utah wants for Paul Milsap. The Lakers have the trade exception and can give up a first round pick (if they do the trade above).
I think that Bynum and Scola plus a first round pick may be enough for D12. If not then Orlando can find a better deal.
IDK, I just do not see Pau being strong enough to be in the post anymore. Once Bynum comes back he will be in the post and Pau is just not a spot up shooter type of PF.
I think that Perkins and Ibaka can easily push Pau off the block. And for me that is the problem with Pau at this point in his career.
Sounds like one of those NBA 2K12 Trades lol
Scola, Martin, Dragic and a first round pick-Wait a minute Houston was willing to give up all this, all for charmin-soft Pau and Buss didn’t pull the trigger??
by MandalorianWookieHunter on Dec 27, 2011 9:17 PM PST up reply actions
Sighs.........
at least this the only three straight games in three nights this season.
Anyway, Kobe needs to share the wealth. He doesn’t have to take all those shots with those shooters on the team. Just doesn’t. Its annoying, given his basketball IQ. C’mon son!
Secondly, Pau needs to defend the rim better. He’s the center; defend the rim. Also, be aggressive on the boards. Box out too.
Thirdly, C.A., you mentioned the Lakers lacking another creator on offense. That guy could be Darius Morris, but Mike Brown has him inactive. Play him, Mike! Why the hell is Walton active? Mike Brown, stop playing Fisher as well. Just stop it. You are not putting your team in the best position to win. Neither is Kobe, but you most certainly could help the cause.
Lastly, as much as I like Murphy’s rebounding and shooting, the Lakers need to sign a shot blocker since there isn’t a person on the roster that defends the rim except Bynum. The Lakers have a bunch of power forwards on their roster and one legit center. Pau can’t fill that position anymore. He just can’t do it.
by E-ROC on Dec 27, 2011 6:48 AM PST via Android app reply actions
Lakers need a win tonight against the Jazz.
California OWNS ALL
by California Girly Girl on Dec 27, 2011 7:03 AM PST up reply actions
Are we really going to call a team that shot 6% from 3
full of shooters?
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
C'mon Marty, thats a small sample size.
by E-ROC on Dec 27, 2011 3:12 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Confident that the jazz game will be a win
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
I'm guessing Troy Murphy had never played a game prior to last night
in which he was the only player on his team to make a 3-pointer.
Can't spell "Colletti" without LOL.
I think MWP and Ebanks hit 3s last night as well.
You're only a success for the moment that you complete a successful act. - Tex Winter
Tweetness
Nope, one three point make for the entire team
It’s tough to shoot 6% from the line with three made 3s =(
Must have been Sunday I was thinking of. It's all a red blur.
You're only a success for the moment that you complete a successful act. - Tex Winter
Tweetness
Random Thoughts
That’s the only kind I have. With start times of 10:30, EST, I generally record then watch weekday games the following evening until the play-offs. Then I adjust my sleep so I can watch live. I have been doing this same thing since 1968, as technology and programming has allowed. I have been getting NBA league pass for a number of years. I really havn’t made my mind up on this year….. Yes, it is a bitch when you can’t sleep after a game, especially if it’s 1:30 AM and you gotta work the next day and you’re not 25 or 30 any more. It’s part of a lifelong committment to LAL to do your best. Sometimes I think I try harder than some of our millionaire players. lol.
I am encouraged by what I have seen from our 2 rooks during the 3.5 games I have watched. Morris must be activated and used. I am encouraged by the play of Josh and Troy. I expected them to be OK and contribute. I watched Josh quite a lot last year, he’s a gamer. Troy can return to a double double-type form. Kapono will have a role at certain times against certain teams. Blake will be OK, as we hoped. I think Mike Brown is doing a good job, he is undaunted so far. I don’t always understand some of his thinking, but I have faith in him. Kobe seems somewhat rejuvenated, though I share CAs thinking (which I usually do) on Kobe. Ebanks has a nice game, which I thought was obvious during the 1st 20 or so games last season when he actually got some quality minutes. I’m happy with the potential we have seen from our various role players and rookies, they can contribute. We acually have some shooting so far this year. We have been consistent in using the bigs. Brown will insist on it.. We know this should be our advantage in most games. We want what we want, now. But it’s gonna take time. We should know that. New coach and systems, short camp, new players, Drew -4 games, etc. The pieces can come together. We need to know what Morris can do on a regular basis. We don’t have time to waste. Or maybe a point/creator will be obtained. Either way, we all know this is our chief weakness at this time. It seems like over the past 3 to 4 years, the gaps have been steadily closing between top tier, mid-level and even the lowly teams. There is not much wiggle room any more. With the proper motivation and hustle and the turn of 1 friendly card; we could end up in the thick of it. It can’t be any worse than last year. I’m not gonna mention all the disconcerting issues we have with our situation and particular personnel. It has been and will continue to be well documented. lol
I will die a Lakers fan
"All glory is fleeting" - Gen. George S. Patton, Jr.
by midnightrider1961 on Dec 27, 2011 8:22 AM PST reply actions
what a shame
old man kobe is going to be looking up in the pacific division for the rest of his career
"Bobby Jackson sends a dagger DEEP into the heart of Texas!" Kevin Harlan
by Loyalty2Royalty on Dec 27, 2011 8:28 AM PST reply actions
what a shame
old man kobe is going to be looking up in the pacific division for the rest of his career
"Bobby Jackson sends a dagger DEEP into the heart of Texas!" Kevin Harlan
by Loyalty2Royalty on Dec 27, 2011 8:28 AM PST reply actions
Not as much a shame as the Kings looking up for the past 11 years.
You're only a success for the moment that you complete a successful act. - Tex Winter
Tweetness
Kings youngest team in the league
Only one way you get the youngest team, lots of lottery picks over the last five years.
no worries
the kings future is bright, which is more than the lakers can say
when you suck for a long time and then have the ability to start winning it just makes you value the sport and your team more
"Bobby Jackson sends a dagger DEEP into the heart of Texas!" Kevin Harlan
by Loyalty2Royalty on Dec 27, 2011 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
Word?
The Kings future is bright because the Clippers and Warriors are shining down on them from their still superior position in the Pacific lol
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Light's so bright--turn it off!
You're only a success for the moment that you complete a successful act. - Tex Winter
Tweetness
Some thoughts
FWIW, SMH:
The line-up of Blake, Luke, Barnes, Murphy, and McRoberts should never see the light of day…. Unless there is a 20 point lead.
Quote of the night: “Steve Blake is a good defender.” – Jerry Reynolds, Color Commentator Sacramento Kings. That was almost as good as another memorable quote from four years ago: “Kwame Brown is athletic.” I still have a scar from falling off the couch that night.
Did Brown yell at Fisher for causing too many turnovers against Chicago? Does Fisher not take criticism well, since being PJ’s pet? He looked hesitant to make good passes and entry passes the entire night. He missed two easy passes into McRoberts and a cutting Ebanks in the opening minutes.
This whole mess could have been avoided if the Lakers sent Pau and Blake to Cleveland for Jamison and the first or fourth pick in the draft. Brown and Adelman were top candidates to become coach and like to run pick n’ roll and/or pick ’n pop offenses (like Westphal destroyed us with last night). Kemba Walker or Kyrie Irving, we would be set. Lamar would still be in LA. jamison could have been traded or amnestied somewhere else. I know, no more trade talk, but just saying. Lakers would save lots of money, Cleveland and Darth Stern would be happy.
Cleveland has 0 incentive to take Pau
what are we even talking about here?
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
theres NO team thats going to want pau now...
the window to trading him is all but closed now. ****ing stern blew everything up! bottom line is the lakers are stuck with this team now.
by Mark Jaramillo on Dec 27, 2011 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
This is hindsight kids
If Mitch, not Jim Buss were running the show, this may have happened during the draft. Even Darth Stern would have agreed with sending a superstar to a small market. Sources have told me that before Stern goes to bed he prays that someone will do something to stop Dan Gilbert from having a closed-door complaint-fest in his office each week.
So let’s see, if during the draft, the Lakers would have at least sent an all-star and one not so good contract to Cleveland for a has been and a potentially good player (1st or 4th pick), you’re saying Stern would have vetoed it? Lol…
On another note, Peace got lazy last night too. Anyone else watch him take his time to close out 3 point shooters? That’s when he decided to even bother challenging them.
do not wanna see any sports related news
Talking about the lakers, hate it after losing
by PurpYellow2428 on Dec 27, 2011 9:50 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions
what is up with Kapono? Is he hurt?
didn’t watch last night (one of the few perks of shitty cable service), but the teams goes one-for-the-game from three and the guy they got to be a 3-ball specialist DNP’d. Anybody know something I don’t?
Resignation is Right
I could not agree more with the article. The atrocious preseason moves (and lack thereof), combined with the terrible preseason games against the Clippers and the first two regular season debaucles, peppered with the apparent ambivelance (or complete lack of understanding) of Jim Buss makes me fear for this season and the last few productive years of Kobe’s career. Seeing Derek Fisher trip over his own feet was only slightly worse than watching him jack up bad shots, while not even looking for the open man, all while being incapable of defending even a third or fourth tier guard. Then we have to see Luke Waltong tossing up air balls and bricks. This is embarassing.
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