Pt. II - More CP3 Trade News
by SoCalGal on Dec 10, 2011 9:22 PM PST
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Its okay everyone, we'll just wait til next season and CP3 will sign as a free agent ^___^
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+1
Hopefully NO kicks Stern to the curb as an owner and then their new owner lets us do a sign-and-trade deal for Paul.
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 9:32 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
i don't think they have a choice on who gets to be owner
I think the other 29(?) owners have to vote to accept new one.
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Still they can own NO indefinitely, they are merely stewards until someone steps up. Then they are just like any normal NBA franchise
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 9:38 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
yea, that was supposed to be the plan
but they basically get to choose who becomes owner technically. Though somebody has to approach them first.
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True but are they really going to turn someone away as long as he is Frank McCourt 2.0? The bad press of then owning NO is worth getting out alone.
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 9:41 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
As a Rockets fan...
as pissed as I am about how this all turned out, I applaud the pride and wherewithal y’all showed by saying, “pass.” I was hoping the Rockets were planning on doing the same once all the reports were coming out that it was gonna be Rockets’ old offer PLUS Jordan Hill, or PLUS PatPat.
GG Guys, and FUCK STERN
by yeahriles on Dec 10, 2011 9:43 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
KEVIN DING
Lakers were plotting for both but have always prioritized Dwight Howard move over Chris Paul — and were waiting for the right time on DH.
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smart. fuck stern. he’s asking for things we don’t have. he’s really screwing the hornets. unless they trade him for rondo, which is pretty good straight up trade.
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don't think they want him to move
they’ll ask for random shit so that people can’t comply to their demands.
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smart. get dwight.
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i don't think anyone will want to trade for Paul after this
they don’t have anymore to valuable trade pieces
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Front office executive on re-entering CP3 derby: “My initial reaction is, ‘Who wants to go through that headache with the NBA playing God?’”
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can’t believe they glued CP3 to NOH.
I hope they sue the shit out of Stern, even if they end up losing
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Paul is going to be beyond pissed.
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 9:33 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
So does this mean that CP3 and the union will seek litigation?
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 9:25 PM PST reply actions
I hope, on monday they do.
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if there is evidence that lakers are the ones who said, nevermind, then im not sure paul has much of a case.
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no, they will be sued for the first veto
since by doing all of this, it’s pretty ovbious the league doesn’t want CP3 moved.
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what madmaxx said, plus
lakers and hornets couldn’t meet the restrictions set by the nba, after the first proposal was shot down
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Need to get Dwight.
Please keep Gasol. He’s been so professional about everything and he would fit great with Dwight.
Ball don't lie.
by East.Coast.Laker.Fan on Dec 10, 2011 9:25 PM PST reply actions
Amen. Keep Pau
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by Zen and Tonic on Dec 10, 2011 9:35 PM PST up reply actions
Yes
Pau stays!!!! Along with Howard would be amazing and that’s what I was hoping for initially before all the CP3 talk. We should be thanking Stern, guys, he saved us if we get Dwight.
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Trade exemption.
Preemptive move to take on Hedo’s contract. Huge gamble.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 9:26 PM PST up reply actions
TE it seems.
and probably draft picks.
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My real question was why the Mavs
an in-conference rival also returning from winning a chip. I actually think there’s a second motive to provide Odom the experience of continuing to play with a contending team.
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Its the only thing that makes sense anymore
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 11:30 PM PST up reply actions
I have an idea
Mitch gets Dwight, but! trades Pau after the season and creates cap room to sign CP3!!!
traded, yes, it’s likely, but doesn’t mean he will sign extension with new team.
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At this rate who wants to touch that cluster fuck? Unless the litigation ships him here
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 9:27 PM PST up reply actions
I'd love to see it
Lose Rondo and CP3 walks away at the end of the year. Pretty risky business. And frankly I think Rondo provides just as much for the Celts as CP3 would
Even if we traded Pau, we would still be over the cap
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They really didn't have a chance to begin with
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 9:27 PM PST up reply actions
I was 99% sure they were never in the Dwight sweep stake.
They didn’t have anything to offer.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 9:27 PM PST up reply actions
Does this mean we keep Pau, now?
Or do we work out a new trade with Houston?
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Yo guys only Bynum is suspended at the start of season right?
Odom didn’t get suspension for that shove of Dirk did he?
No.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 9:28 PM PST up reply actions
lakers can still end up with both players next year.
"They’re a very special group of men. Cherish them, you will not see their like again."
i mean, howard now, and cp3 next summer
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how ? via Sign-and-trade?
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Can't be a sign and trade.
CP3 hits legitimate free agency next year. It’s all about the bidding war after that.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 9:30 PM PST up reply actions
All we need would be to trade Gasol and that opens up 20 million
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 9:31 PM PST up reply actions
not if we get Dwight.
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Getting rid of Bynum and Odom take care of that, and we amnesty Walton
Thats around 27 million (14+8+5)
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 9:34 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think you understand how the salary cap works.
If we have both Kobe and Dwight by the end of this year and those are the ONLY two players we have, we will only be about 13 million under the cap, if not less. And no, Kobe and Dwight will NOT be the only players on the roster.
Otis Smith HAS to be on the phone ready to confirm Howard trade right?
Like this D12 trade has to follow immediately after the Odom trade.
"They should go into a box and one--put the box on Kobe and the one on everyone else" - Jeff Van Gundy
Doesn't necessarily have to, but I'm sure Mitch is calling.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 9:29 PM PST up reply actions
Mitch wouldn't trade Odom without complete confirmation from Otis
would he? If not it’s the biggest risk Mitch has ever taken, arguably.
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by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 9:30 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah well nothing is set in stone until you get that ink on the paper.
Either way, Mitch is taking a risk with or without Otis giving him his word.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 9:34 PM PST up reply actions
why not just do a three team trade?
tell Dallas to give the Magic the draft picks directly
so it’s ONE trade isntead of two separate ones..less room for mistakes
so the Lakers dictate how the trade goes
even if the Magic is the one trading the superstar?
CP3 still has to be moved by Monday
or the players’ union will take legal action… meaning Celts are the number one optionnow. Stern will simply say the Lakers backed out so no problem approving CP for Rondo and Jeff Green
"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec
Fuck him. Seriously.
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"Fisher's defense is called escort service in my country, just accompany" -Ibou
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The thing with that is CP3 has said he would not sign an extension with Boston
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Boston is okay with that as they're in 'win now' mode.
From what I understand, anyway. They’re okay with renting him for the year.
problem for CP3 is he has to sign an extension before Jan 1
or his earning capacity is severely reduced if he become a FA under the new CBA
"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec
i thought he stood to make more
by not signing an extension.
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I don't think CP can win in federal court vs Stern. If he uses the 40M case, Stern could just say sign with NO
And he’d probably have to miss games to go to court
At this point,
I doubt he cares if he misses games. What’s the point playing for the Hornets? He’s going to leave anyway. If he were smart, he would just take the year off and rest those legs.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 9:31 PM PST up reply actions
The awesome thing about impartial judges
is that they can call Stern on that kind of bullshit.
Its never about winning in court
It’s about settlement before court.
Paul’s losing more than the 40+ million extension. He’s also losing endorsements and other things of that ilk. He can find experts/accountants to testify that he would expect ____ in endorsements if he moved to a large market and won championships.
Create leverage, settle your case. For him, that’d be a cash settlement from the league funds or possibly a salary cap exception for the lakers to sign him as a FA (just an idea, not likely).
it won't go to court
CP3 will be with the Clippers or Celtics by Monday
"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec
I'll admit it.
I totally can’t keep up with all the trade talk. It’s dizzying.
I’m off to bed. Perhaps by morning there will be something resolved?
I feel u, I have been losing sleep everyday
And this still has not bee settled. Hopefully it would be more clearer in the afternoon
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smh....
The excitement is gone…we’ll still have an old ass team with no shooters, No PG and no cap space to make any moves plus we take on another huge contract for another old guy in Hedo….win now F the future..oh well this year should be interesting
Da Bears....enuff said
not to mention we trade LO for shyt in return....lol where's Jerry West when you need him
Da Bears....enuff said
Fuck that. This team has essentially won its last 5 titles without a true PG. No, Derek Fisher isn't one.
The closest thing was the Shawfather.
And this “old-ass” team is only a year removed from a Championship. And it has Kobe Bryant and Pau Gasol still. And Bynum if we don’t get Howard. We’ll be fine.
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this is godamn rollercoaster
one minute im thinking yes cp3, and possibly yes to howard, then no cp3 then maybe howard then no howard and possible cp3 again, and now no cp3 and maybe howard. I WANT THIS TO END ALREADY
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by Czheck on Dec 10, 2011 9:30 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
hollinger is worried about our math.
@johnhollinger
Any exception created by dealing Odom isn’t big enough to take in Turkoglu. I’m not seeing LA’s endgame here, nor why Dallas would help.
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it is if we send gasol, bynum, TE
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that's too much to give up for DH
it amounts to LO + Bynum + Pau
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by deadmuse on Dec 10, 2011 9:33 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't think that's true.
I’m pretty sure the trade exception counts as salary toward your whole side, i.e. you can combine the contracts of Pau, Bynum, Walton, etc. with a trade exception to match the salary coming in.
Also, we still have the Sasha exception for almost 6 million. Combine that with LO’s 9 million salary, and you have 14. What’s Hedo making again?
The player + trade exception is confusing to me
but I’m sure you cannot combine trade exceptions to make one 14 million TE
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by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 10:47 PM PST up reply actions
he scurred lol
KD is already complaining that we might get better lol
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"Fisher's defense is called escort service in my country, just accompany" -Ibou
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shit. shit. shit.
Really hope Odom didn’t force Mitch’s hand in trading him.
by Ador08 on Dec 10, 2011 9:32 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I think he did, in a way.
It was obvious he had to go somewhere now, since he was so unhappy, and being so vocally unhappy to the media might have lowered his trade value.
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doubt it
did kobe being vocally unhappy decrease his “trade value” back in 07?
odom cried because he WANTED to be a laker, not because he wanted to leave.
Sorry, but Odom != Kobe. Not even close.
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Tweetness
in terms of trade value
not even in the same dimension lol
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Not in terms of anything.
I love Lamar, but come on.
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Tweetness
then we amnesty hedo next summer and go after paul in summer
"They’re a very special group of men. Cherish them, you will not see their like again."
Don't think we could amnesty Hedo
Wasn’t on our roster at the time of the lockout.
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Are we missing something?
Maybe Mitch is going to try and pry Williams away from the Nets as well :P Then Williams and Howard would team up, just for the Lakers muahah!
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 9:32 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah I got no idea.
I thought the end game was CP3 and Dwight. We’re missing something here.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 9:35 PM PST up reply actions
Unless we dump another contract
maybe blake or MWP, hopefully not both bynum/gasol
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by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 9:32 PM PST up reply actions
I think even if we couldn't acquire anyone
we’d still have to trade him…he is just too pissed at LA right now. Gasol is being more professional about it.
Go Sharks!
Maybe Hollinger doesn't understand what Mitch's masterplan is
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 9:33 PM PST up reply actions
Dwight Howard and a point guard
at this point we have no choice
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 9:35 PM PST up reply actions
Basketball reasons?
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by Zen and Tonic on Dec 10, 2011 9:49 PM PST up reply actions
Hedo makes $11 million.
The trade exception was for at least $11 million.
Am I missing something here?
I think he's missing something
Also we could amnesty Walton and thats 5 million
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 9:35 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, but we could dump a 2 million dollar contract and it all works out fine
MWP or Blake maybe
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by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 9:37 PM PST up reply actions
No, they're more than 2 mil, so it works out regardless.
And I’m pretty sure exceptions just cover up any salary differences in a trade. Unless I’m badly mistaken.
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by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 9:42 PM PST up reply actions
it was all good jus a week ago
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Hollinger just tweeted
the trade exception for the Odom deal isn’t enough to take on Turkoglu’s salary. Not sure what you guys are up to
Pau trade option
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7fxdr99
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Me Neither but it seems you guys are so willing to part with Pau
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for Chris Paul yes
for scrubs? no
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
On a COMPLETE side note.. here's a four-team-trade I cooked up on the trade machine.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ccraz8p
PG: Fisher/Dragic
SG: Kobe/Granger
SF: Granger/MWP/Barnes
PF: Scola/Odom
C: Hibbert/FA
The only hypothetical thing is that in this scenario, we KEEP lamar.
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NBA source tell me the Lakers did not approach other teams with cap space or trade exceptions before making the deal sending Odom to Dallas.
I refuse to believe that.
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by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 9:34 PM PST up reply actions
Come on guys...
This can only mean good things. Mitch makes his best moves when no one know what the hell he’s doing.
by 82 games of pain! on Dec 10, 2011 9:34 PM PST reply actions
lmao
If I’m Chris Paul, I say I want to play in Cleveland. Get Gilbert to trade for me and then do The Decision II. #Pow
by LAL32 on Dec 10, 2011 9:35 PM PST reply actions 8 recs
lol
do it
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Definitely
Stick it to Gilbert
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I logged in after a year or so...
just so I could rec this. It would be even better if The Decision II ends with Paul saying he’s taking his talents to the Lakers.
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by Derek Fisher's Intangibles on Dec 10, 2011 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
Taking is talents to SoCal
A Ravens fan on the wrong side of the country!!
by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 10:07 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Chris Paul will go down as my favorite player of all time if he does this
PLEASE LET IT HAPPEN
Is Lebron your favorite player too
for sticking it to Gilbert?
No
I didn’t say I wanted Paul to make a douche out of himself on national TV. Lebron dug his own grave.
funny that we are dealing with teams whose owners have been crying. gilber and the cavs were part of the rockets hornets lakers talk as a fourth team
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Rockets Fan here:
Let’s get #SucceedFromNBA trending. How you guys handling it? Reports are Houston’s just been set back three years with not getting Gasol and Nene.
yah i feel bad for all parties involved. stern really has to step down as commissioner.
"They’re a very special group of men. Cherish them, you will not see their like again."
We got Odom bitching like a little girl (who I think we just traded)...
we have Gasol who is being professional about it but not liking the situation, and we still have Derek Fisher as the starting PG. Basically, not good.
Go Sharks!
Maybe it's part of being foreign.
You don’t build the same attachments to places since you’re half a world away from home.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 9:40 PM PST up reply actions
From what I can tell,
it made us literally give away Odom, but it hurts the Rockets and Hornets much more.
basketball reasons bro
we all feel the pain of basketball reasons
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by Czheck on Dec 10, 2011 9:37 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Stern at work.
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We're all really fucking hestiant, because we apparently already traded Odom
Just to get the money to take Hedo’s contract so we can get Dwight, if we don’t get him this will end terribly. I really wanted the 1st deal to happen, Im really hoping CP3 goes after league offices over this debauchery
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 9:38 PM PST up reply actions
Just sucks because we had it. Gasol was a Rocket.
Then Nene would have signed (there’s a reason he hasn’t taken the $$ from Jersey yet). Seriously, fuck Stern.
And yea Houston and NO really got the shaft over this
That frontline would have been gross (in a great way)
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 9:40 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah my Rockets blogger caught that.
It’s been a late night but no excuse for a law school graduate lol.
Congrats on THAT!
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by Zen and Tonic on Dec 10, 2011 9:55 PM PST up reply actions
If you secede, we might join you
We wish you well but your success is another issue altogether.
Stern drives all fans against him!
…and we decided we’d like to keep Pau. Sorry. blame Stern (and Cuban)
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by Zen and Tonic on Dec 10, 2011 9:54 PM PST up reply actions
we get draft picks
whatever it is that orlando wants
by no stance on Dec 10, 2011 9:38 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
we trade Odom for a TE? One thas not enough to take on Hedo's contract? really. No players or anything?
we get get Barea Terry or anybody? lol hard to see the bright spot in that deal..
Da Bears....enuff said
someone was talking earlier about it being 2 players
for 2 players you could use 2 trade exceptions. I’ll admit trade exceptions I know jack shit about
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
Something doesn't line up here
We’re missing some key pieces of information
suns signed shannon brown...
not that anyone cares…
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"When Jordan retired, you just thought a player like that wouldn’t come along again. But then Kobe almost immediately drew those comparisons, and that says it all. He established his own identity as one of the best players to ever play the game." -Hakeem
Wow,
I play DotA for 5 hours and now I hear we pulled out? Can anyone give me details? And are we still in on Dwight?
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
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couldnt meet the emperor's requirements
BASKETBALL REASONS
by Tkuang on Dec 10, 2011 9:40 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh thank god.
I would be SO pissed if we missed both. So we’re gonna really want CP3 through FA then, huh?
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
Dota 2?
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 9:41 PM PST up reply actions
I wish.
Just good ol’ DotA.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
Haha it's like busting out the good ol' NES :P
Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 9:42 PM PST up reply actions
I keep asking my dad to send my N64!
I HAVE NEVER BEATEN OCARINA OF TIME OR MAJORA’S MASK! Thanks for reminding me, gotta ask him again tomorrow haha.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
No.
OOT though is the best game of all time.
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Very, very much so.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
by douchiedude on Dec 10, 2011 10:05 PM PST up reply actions
League of Legends > DotA
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- A fan of the Warriors and Lakers.
Siiiiike.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
I trust in Mitch
He’s playing his cards close. Can’t imagine going into the regular season with anything looking remotely close to todays roster.
by Ador08 on Dec 10, 2011 9:39 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I was walking around the world today assuming Chris Paul was a Laker.
Sad face.
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hmm
JennBrownESPN: NBA Source: Lakers expected to trade F Lamar Odom to Mavericks for unspecified draft picks
smh
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Are we trading Odom to give NO draft picks??? Idk whats going on anymore
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 9:41 PM PST up reply actions
give Orlando picks
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by bluexfalcon on Dec 10, 2011 9:42 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Give the Magic
Bynum + picks for Dwight + Turk
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by firstto100 on Dec 10, 2011 9:42 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe the draft picks will go to NO?
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 9:41 PM PST up reply actions
This has got to be the biggest clusterfuck in NBA history
Thanks Stern
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 9:41 PM PST reply actions
ESPNChrisPalmer chris palmer
Clippers are now primed to make a move for Chris Paul. But it will cost them Eric Gordon.
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smh.
"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker
"Fisher's defense is called escort service in my country, just accompany" -Ibou
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basketball reasons
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
..... CP3 please refuse to sign an extension there
Just come to LA next year, we’ll make room for you!
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 9:43 PM PST up reply actions
Paul would be better off signing an extension with Boston than working for Donald Sterling.
Actually, he’d be better off with a beartrap on his ankle than working for Sterling.
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Tweetness
Sterling is David Stern’ slightly distorted brother, both douches and assholes.
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 9:45 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Too many tweets to go through. WTF happened, short and sweet?
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Tweetness
CP3 deal fell through.
And we traded Lamar to Dallas for a TE and possibly some picks.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 9:43 PM PST up reply actions
Lakers pulled out of deal.
Odom to Mavs for trade exception (Tyson Chandler one) and draft picks.
Speculation is that Lakers are now primed and ready to swoop for Howard with Bynum + TE + draft picks.
It appears Pau (hopefully) has lucked out and earned to stay with the Lakers. He acted very professional about all this.
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I hated losing LO more than Pau, but I still didn't want to see Pau go. Glad he's still with us.
He deserves another shot.
You're only a success for the moment that you complete a successful act. - Tex Winter
Tweetness
oh definitely.
and his being so classy after the potential trade just really shows why he belongs with us.
by tiger child on Dec 10, 2011 10:43 PM PST up reply actions
Hell no. Pau>Odom.
But it hurts to see Candy Man gone. It’s like what Boston did to Perkins last year. Loyal team guy who took less money to be here. #itsthenatureofthebeast
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"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."
-Kobe Bryant
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"Pshh, 'Show Me.' (smirking) Yeah, I've heard that."
-Sam Bradford
Braun, just give your MVP
to KEMvP. You took PED’s and he was still the better player :^)
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
Cool,
what a nice use of FanPosts.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
Hahah rightfully so, too.
Takes all 9 hitters and 5 pitchers.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
Wow, that trade for Odom is terrible IMO
As a Suns fan, I’m curious as to why we couldn’t have traded something for Odom.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
there has to be.
there’s a lot of teams out there who would give things up for odom.
by tiger child on Dec 10, 2011 10:25 PM PST up reply actions
No pieces?
Seriously, as a Suns fan, I really don’t think the Suns have any real pieces beyond Morris and maybe Gortat.
---
Revenge is ice cream.
Okay, the only thing we know for sure is that we're trading LO for EITHER draft picks or a trade exception. Either way, we're gearing up for a trade for Dwight Howard.
If you claim to know anything beyond that, you’re BSing everyone.
Slava.
http://www.twitter.com/hobojarpen
Trading for picks nets you a trade exception
It’s not either or.
"They should go into a box and one--put the box on Kobe and the one on everyone else" - Jeff Van Gundy
by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 9:45 PM PST up reply actions
i want to puke
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There is something we don’t know, after what Mitch pulled Thursday I have no doubt that we are going to come out with a great deal. Obviously any deal that brings in Dwight will be a success(unless kobe’s traded-not happening) so just calm down and breath people. Remember these trade exceptions can be used to acquire decent role players if we need to fill out the roster. Maybe once litigation hits Stern we hit up Houston again and get that started, who knows, but for right now…IN MITCH WE TRUST!!!! IN BUSS I TRUST!!
The TE is for $8.9 million, Turkoglu's salary is $10.6 million.
Hollinger’s right, math doesn’t add up. Unless The Lakers can send the TE along with another player to make up the rest of the contract? Is that possible?
by Ador08 on Dec 10, 2011 9:45 PM PST via mobile reply actions
i don't think so
as you can’t combine the TE’s
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Bynum + Vujacic TE for Howard
Blake or some Laker with at least 2 mil contract + Odom TE for Turkoglu
Combine them into one simultaneous trade. It works out.
"They should go into a box and one--put the box on Kobe and the one on everyone else" - Jeff Van Gundy
by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 9:48 PM PST up reply actions
oh that makes sense.
"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker
"Fisher's defense is called escort service in my country, just accompany" -Ibou
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No.
You cannot combine the TEs with players in a trade. According to Larry Coon himself.
Yeah I think I just realized that
my bad.
"They should go into a box and one--put the box on Kobe and the one on everyone else" - Jeff Van Gundy
by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 10:31 PM PST up reply actions
No worries
This is all confusing as shit
Doesn't the amnesty make up the difference?
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 9:45 PM PST up reply actions
I think you can
Because how else can we get Howard for Bynum unless we use the Sasha TE on that trade?
"They should go into a box and one--put the box on Kobe and the one on everyone else" - Jeff Van Gundy
by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 9:46 PM PST up reply actions
um, so i'm presuming we're keeping pau. NO WAY do we trade LO to DAL, on top of trading both Bynum AND Pau for D12... right?
Slava.
http://www.twitter.com/hobojarpen
you have to do two seperate trades, but you can use two TEs
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Unless we add someone else to the trade...
Maybe Blake? Dallas needs a backup PG, right? Blake $4 million + Lamar’s 9 million = $13 million TPE from Tyson Chandler deal.
Could that work?
by SmokeAndAshes on Dec 10, 2011 9:50 PM PST up reply actions
The biggest winner in this is Fish who gets to stay playing until he's 64
by LAL32 on Dec 10, 2011 9:45 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
hahhahaa
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not when billups joins the lakers...
"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung
but he at least can shoot lol
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it doesnt matter when you have dwight howard behind you...
"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung
Well, I've certainly got my work cut out for me.
Kelly Dwyer is without a doubt one of the worst sportswriters in the world. The only reason I say he's "one of the" and not "THE worst" is because I haven't read enough of the Russians' coverage of the NBA to make a fair assessment.
by Derek Fisher's Intangibles on Dec 10, 2011 10:12 PM PST up reply actions
Did Mitch forget to put it in the fridge? :/
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 9:47 PM PST up reply actions
why is everything losing value?
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basketball reasons.
duh.
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by gen!e on Dec 10, 2011 9:48 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
lol
Sad but still lol
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 9:49 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Bynum and the two TEs for Howard and Turkoglu sounds fair.
I’ll live with Fisher at PG for one more year
by Ador08 on Dec 10, 2011 9:50 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
so the hornets are going to be a d-league team with chris paul
ultimate payback from the owners for nbpa chris paul
Follow me: @theshmoes.
don't they only have like 6 players on contract.
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CANNOT COMBINE DIFFERENT TEs!!!!!
And Turkoglu has a 15% trade kicker!!
I realize that, so then he makes 11.5 million this year
11 million trade exemption, and can’t we use the amnesty so we don’t take the cap hit?
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 9:49 PM PST up reply actions
How bout the biggest TE and
a contract similar to the differential between the TE and Turkoglus contract?
by Ador08 on Dec 10, 2011 9:53 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I think that works.
"They should go into a box and one--put the box on Kobe and the one on everyone else" - Jeff Van Gundy
by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 9:54 PM PST up reply actions
Pau straight up to houston
for martin, scola +picks. Picks from Dallas and houston + bynum + sasha trade exception to orlando for dwight. Then spin Odom TE into a useful player.
This probably won’t happen excatly like this, but you guys are thinking about this the wrong way. We have a lot of assets that we can now use creatively.
Not bad. (although I'd love to lkeep Pau)
Pau straight up to houston for martin, scola +picks. Picks from Dallas and houston + bynum + sasha trade exception to orlando for dwight. Then spin Odom TE into a useful player.
Mitch is still cookin in the kitchen like Breaking Bad!
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by Zen and Tonic on Dec 10, 2011 9:59 PM PST up reply actions
Fuck that we just handed Odom to DAL
This whole experience feels like a giant mistake and it’s going to be painful to watch this team piece the CP3 veto together and find their chemistry
by IheartLA on Dec 10, 2011 9:50 PM PST via mobile reply actions
it's all for basketball reasons.
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So how do trade negotiations work?
Especially multi-team ones. Over phone, kind of a lemme call you back and I’ll ask Houston. Call Houston, lemme call you back and lemme see if that’s cool with NO? Or is it a 3 way phone chat? Do they do it over Skype or something maybe? They flew to an undisclosed location and are working on it there?
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 9:50 PM PST reply actions
I'm sure it's just as we imagine.
They negotiate over a game of “Words with Friends” over the phone.
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Source confirms that Odom is gone “for sure,” and Paul trade has fallen apart. Not for Howard, either. Source: It’s a straight salary dump.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 9:51 PM PST reply actions
LOL, yes and no. If he'd reacted differently, I'd hazard a guess he's still a Laker tomorrow.
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Tweetness
yea he was bitchin after the cp3 trade surfaced
Gasol acted well
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He had a day to act out...
Day 2, hit bricks.
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by Zen and Tonic on Dec 10, 2011 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
True
But from an organizational standpoint, if you decide to trade him, you HAVE to explore your options with all teams. There are definitely teams that would have surrendered some young players for Odom.
We may have decided to trade him for his reaction, but we did NOT make the best trade for our organization.
it all goes to Howard
Mitch made this trade not just to get value for Odom, but to get items that would be of value to Orl so that he would have more pieces to offer to get DH without having to gut the roster.
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 10:29 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Well the TE we got for Odom
Can’t be combined with any players or other TEs in a trade to the Magic. Meaning we can’t take on Turk’s contract with the TE. So all we could do is take on Nelson (in a separate trade from Howard), which makes no sense – why would Orlando give up Dwight and Jameer?
Basically it’s hard to see how Mitch can turn the TE into a piece for Dwight.
It wasn’t just the TE, they also got draft picks which will hold value with a rebuilding Orl team
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 10:39 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Problem is
Orlando wants to dump Turk’s contract, by all accounts. We currently have no way to absorb that contract aside from including Gasol (not worth it) or including filler like Blake/Barnes/Walton (which the Magic would be crazy to take).
Draft picks are fine, but we need a way to absorb Turk’s salary because NJ definitely will
I doubt they really traded him for his reaction considering he was part of the original trade.
And I don’t think it’s for nothing. I believe in Mitch and the fact that there is more to what’s going on than any of us know.
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Tweetness
What?
A straight salary dump when you’re so committed to winning a championship, AND you’ve got $150 million rolling in every year for the next 25 years?
"They should go into a box and one--put the box on Kobe and the one on everyone else" - Jeff Van Gundy
by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 9:52 PM PST up reply actions
I think Mitch did this for next offseason
It’s obvious were looking towards the future
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 9:53 PM PST up reply actions
Well... that was stupid.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 9:53 PM PST up reply actions
wow
"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker
"Fisher's defense is called escort service in my country, just accompany" -Ibou
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Words cannot describe
My sheer disappointment over this.
by IheartLA on Dec 10, 2011 10:00 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Sources close to the situation tell ESPN that Clippers have emerged as “early frontrunner” to acquire CP3 now that Lakers out of running
"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec
Eric Gordon is better than 4 players and 1st round draft pick?
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 9:52 PM PST up reply actions
double F***
If this goes I have to endure more Clipper fan gloating after Stern screwed the pouch to keep Paul out of gold and purple, only so he could go to Stern’s doppelgänger in Donald Sterling… sigh
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 9:55 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I don't see how he can be traded at all
after stern basically just refused to allow him to be traded to the Lakers.
technically the Lakers backed out of this deal
even thought Stern forced them to by demanding too much, so now he can put the blame on us
"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec
LOLWUT
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Tweetness
TRading Odom to a division rival for NADA is krazy.
even if we get Howard we get Turk who is not as good as Odom and i think older and has a longer contract worth more money. Replace Drew with Howard and we still have the same team that got swept minus LO. Im sorry i dont see the logic in that at all
Da Bears....enuff said
Mavs are not in our Division.
if you meant conference, yea.
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yeeah meant conference
Da Bears....enuff said
by EmmCeee on Dec 10, 2011 11:09 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
yeeah meant conference
Da Bears....enuff said
by EmmCeee on Dec 10, 2011 11:09 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
more educated comments from Emm~
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stop it V
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Per ESPNLA
Gasol/Bynum for Howard/Hedo works. Just saying. Not approving, just saying. BK
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Tweetness
no way that's happening. i don't want it to happen. we're not coming out of this with all three of them gone!
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agreed
wouldn’t do it for both, but thats probably the only way we can convincingly trump the nets offer.
No way.
That’s a horrible trade.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 9:54 PM PST up reply actions
Nooooooooooooooooo!!
Worst move possible considering the loss of LO. Just Bynum.
by Ador08 on Dec 10, 2011 9:55 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Doesn't explain Odom trade at all.
must be basketball reasons
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by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 9:56 PM PST up reply actions
we get a 1 and possibly a 2 from the mavs
https://twitter.com/lakersnation/status/145743838638649345
Good ammo for a DH trade
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 9:58 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
If we trade Gasol and Bynum
there’s no reason to give up anything more, not even a Mavs 1st or 2nd
"They should go into a box and one--put the box on Kobe and the one on everyone else" - Jeff Van Gundy
by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
I’m thinking this is ammo to package Bynum to get DH without giving up Pau. Draft picks plus taking on Turk and maybe giving up MWP’s expiring deal
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 10:01 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Oh well yeah that's exactly what I think Mitch is preparing to do
I’m just saying the Odom deal has nothing to do with a Gasol/Bynum package.
"They should go into a box and one--put the box on Kobe and the one on everyone else" - Jeff Van Gundy
by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 10:03 PM PST up reply actions
Thats too much
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- A fan of the Warriors and Lakers.
Yeah, I think I'd defer to his opinion a little more readily than some of the stuff I'm reading here. Dude, really?
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I don't approve either
"I promise you, we’re going to build a dictating, dominating, attacking defense. I’ve said it a million times. It’s not a slight on our offense, but we’re not going to win any world championship until we have that." - A.J. Smith
who's that Kobe guy you talking about?
I only know of Koby
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lets make the best of it... hopefully mike brown has some magic up his sleeve this season
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We should just lose every game next year on purpose, its championship or bust!
at least we will have a good shot at the #1 pick
I bet the trade for Paul looks a whole lot better now.
At least we were getting something back. Now we’re stuck with the same team minus Odom and have shit to show for it. Brilliant move
Da Bears....enuff said
basketball reasons
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what's the difference
"They should go into a box and one--put the box on Kobe and the one on everyone else" - Jeff Van Gundy
by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 9:57 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
Oh shit, I think I just flagged you instead. I’m deeply sorry…haven’t been around in ages. Please flag me back. I will say something incredibly stupid and offensive to make it easier for you:
Dan Gilbert and David Stern are awesome.
by Derek Fisher's Intangibles on Dec 10, 2011 10:22 PM PST up reply actions
lol it's fine
"They should go into a box and one--put the box on Kobe and the one on everyone else" - Jeff Van Gundy
by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
Lamar's trade doesn't give us enough?
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
Wooooow....
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
by douchiedude on Dec 10, 2011 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
.
http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2011/12/10/2627458/pt-ii-more-cp3-trade-news#85317717
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its in TWO SEPARATE TRADES THAT WORKS
holy shit have you not been reading
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by bluexfalcon on Dec 10, 2011 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
SHIT BRO I HAVE BEEN
you can’t combine exceptions or exceptions + players. Bynum for Howard works (trade 1). Exception for Turkoglu does not.
Please read carefully. Thx.
Not sure if serious....
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"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius
Bynum + Vujacic TE for Howard
Blake or some Laker with at least 2 mil contract + Odom TE for Turkoglu
Combine them into one simultaneous trade. It works out.
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I don't understand why I seem to be speaking Martian
You can’t send a player AND and exception for a player.
no one is sending the exception.
it just absorbs the extra dollars not covered in the outgoing contracts
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we dont get any younger
plus we more than likely hafta take Hedo’s deal which tacks on more salary for more years with another old ass player to go along with Gasol 31 Kobe 32 Fish 78 and Turk 30 sumn…Not bright by any stretch of the imagination..we’re still screwed long term
Da Bears....enuff said
by EmmCeee on Dec 10, 2011 9:59 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
lets jus go get ricky davis
kwame brown and start luke walton at 2 spots
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WHY THE FUCK IS EVERYONE TURNING ON MITCH?
It isn’t his fault Bitch Stern pulled what he did, otherwise we’d have CP right now and wouldn’t of had to toss LO because he wouldn’t of been told to come back to a team who tried to dump him. We are still going after who most on here wanted in the 1st place so wtf is the problem? I love LO too, but it just wasn’t gonna be the same an you guys know it
i just hope he doesn't trade Bynum AND Pau out of desperation.
Slava.
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Just because we got denied the 1st time doesnt excuse him for trading LO for absolutely positively NOTHING
and a Division rival at that.
Da Bears....enuff said
STFU. How many times does everyone have to tell you Mavs are not a Division Rival.
Everyone needs to calm down. We have no idea what’s going on behind closed doors. Mitch and the front office know what we need. I’m sure they will do everything they can to make the right moves and field a good team. They aren’t going to strip the team apart
Dude, chill.
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so im back in football mode. division. conference. who cares.
The fact is he traded him for shyt. U can stfu with ur blind optimism and kindly turn it sideways and shove it elbow deep in ur a double crooked letter
Da Bears....enuff said
by EmmCeee on Dec 10, 2011 11:14 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Enough with the STFU from both of us.
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All I can say is, if Stern ever shows his face in LA
somebody is gonna get a hurt real bad…
"I’ve never understood this stuff, where a star player sits out and a team goes into the tank. Well, they need him because he makes them better. Well, if he’s making them better, they should be able to survive without him. That’s how you lead your guys. You’ve got to be able to make guys suffice on their own, without you. If you’re there all the time and they take you away, they shouldn’t need a respirator."
-Kobe Bean Bryant
Russell Peters?
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius
Yup
comedy relieves me during times of extraordinary bullshit
"I’ve never understood this stuff, where a star player sits out and a team goes into the tank. Well, they need him because he makes them better. Well, if he’s making them better, they should be able to survive without him. That’s how you lead your guys. You’ve got to be able to make guys suffice on their own, without you. If you’re there all the time and they take you away, they shouldn’t need a respirator."
-Kobe Bean Bryant
C'mon Stern...
I give you Pau and $34.50 for CP3, let’s do trade. Be a man!
"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec
you save 50 cents now, and 50 cents somewhere else, that's one dollar
then you can buy yourself a bulletproof vest for whenever you visit Staples!
"I’ve never understood this stuff, where a star player sits out and a team goes into the tank. Well, they need him because he makes them better. Well, if he’s making them better, they should be able to survive without him. That’s how you lead your guys. You’ve got to be able to make guys suffice on their own, without you. If you’re there all the time and they take you away, they shouldn’t need a respirator."
-Kobe Bean Bryant
Hah
Nice
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius
Someone should pay off sterns driver
and give him a tour of some place a little south and central in los angeles
cp3 had a better career as a laker than dennis rodman had
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Wow, we went from having CP3 done. and maybe D12
To having neither, to having probably at least CP3 , and now we’re getting… i dont even know who/what were getting.
LO for cap space is gonna look bad if D12 doesn’t come here for just Bynum and anyone else but Gasol
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 9:57 PM PST reply actions
Stern just refused to allow a player to go to a certain team.
this is . . . devastating for the NBA. This cannot be legal. The NBA is a business, and for someone to fuck with it like this is unacceptable.
Maybe Mitch figures a shortened season plus
a new coach and Fisher as the starting PG means a lost season. Gonna go big for Deron Williams next year. Kobe, Deron, and Howard for 2012.
by Ador08 on Dec 10, 2011 9:58 PM PST via mobile reply actions
that would be an even bigger headache than what we've been trying to do now haha
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Wow thats what we traded LO for... a late 1st rounder, Wow.
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Lakers will get the Mavs’ first-round pick in 2012, maybe a second-rounder as well.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 9:58 PM PST reply actions
i think we can get jordan farmar back with those picks
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by Czheck on Dec 10, 2011 9:59 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
im glad somebody got it
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He better be looking for those exact pics
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
lol he better have shown mitch a picture of a white board with those picks with hearts around them
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depends, the Mavs are letting half their team go away.
Maybe they will suck next year :)
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
huh.
@Mike_Bresnahan
Lakers will get the Mavs’ first-round pick in 2012, maybe a second-rounder as well.
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can you say
Trade bait…
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 9:59 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
it might be because I've had gin and twizzlers for dinner
but I can’t see how this makes any sense.
A hotdog at the game beats roast beef at the Ritz -- Humphrey Bogart
I prefer we give up blake, he makes more and i don't think he's as valuable as Barnes is
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
Barnes is a free agent after this year while Blake is still on contract for 2 more years.
I don’t think Orlando would want Blake.
No, they already have Nelson.
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I'm hoping it's Blake instead of Barnes
i love Barnes’ hustle, plus if we lose Blake, we can try for Baron Davis on waiver. Who replaces Barnes? Ebanks is too raw, and Luke is …Luke.
by SmokeAndAshes on Dec 10, 2011 10:02 PM PST up reply actions
...
The fuck just happened?
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by SoCalGal on Dec 10, 2011 10:03 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
lol...
nice onel
Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."
D12/Bynum combo
I think I’d be okay with that.
A hotdog at the game beats roast beef at the Ritz -- Humphrey Bogart
We still are hurting at PG, but there are cheap, veteran options we can purse to compliment Kobe in the backcourt.
A long way of sayings yes lol
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 10:02 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
*meant no lol I won't complain
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 10:03 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Pau/Dwight frontcourt?
No complaints from me if that happens
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this stuff is making my head hurt. How does clearing odom help with Howard? Arent you guys stil like 22 million over the cap?
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Dec 10, 2011 10:01 PM PST reply actions
basketball reasons
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people wanting Jamal Freaking Crawford back. Can you guys fill me in on what EXACTLY is going on now? In laker world i mean.
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Dec 10, 2011 10:03 PM PST up reply actions
David Stern is a freaking wimpy old man, aka Dan Gilbert’s little bitch.
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 10:04 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I wrote a long tangent
on Small Market owners (Gilbert) when discussing Melos rank below Dwight and Lebron, somehow I got to Durant and his positive portrayal compared to Melo, D12, Paul, and Lebron… And ended up bitching about how stupid the GIlberts of the world are referencing Rashard Lewish, Verajau, Arenas, Peja etc. The hell is going on? Wackiest couple days since Reggie Miller almost sigend with us and you guys got Shaq
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Dec 10, 2011 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
Deal for CP3 is dead.
I’m guessing our priority now is trading Bynum + picks/pieces for Howard/Turk.
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Much better move for you guys
better for us also, to get him outta the east… just frustrating as hell if the Lakers get another all century center.. but if so, big congrats guys and I hope to see ya in the finals
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Dec 10, 2011 10:16 PM PST up reply actions
thinking*
too much drama 4 one weekend
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 10:03 PM PST up reply actions
or brian shaw is working against us?
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Yeah, and WE were the ones to pull out of the deal
It might be worrisome if it was Houston or something, but WE pulled out. Mitch gotta have something planned
When have you heard of a Laker trade going through this publically?
Get DH12 and close ranks…with Pau still a Laker.
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by Zen and Tonic on Dec 10, 2011 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know how the Chris Paul litigation will work if we give up LO now
cause then even if Paul wins the litigation, the Lakers can’t go through the original trade
this, this, this ^^^^
Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."
I'm going to save this thread
and if epic shit goes down, will link all you doubters.
or link myself.
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by bluexfalcon on Dec 10, 2011 10:03 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
If we amnesty a player, will that not give us the room to take on Hedo's contract? or is that not an option
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 10:05 PM PST up reply actions
Epic as in Howard, Gasol, MWP, Kobe, and Fisher are the starting five on 12/26/11?
That would be great.
by Ador08 on Dec 10, 2011 10:05 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
oh my God
Fisher vs. D.Rose.
epic_facepalm.
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"Fisher's defense is called escort service in my country, just accompany" -Ibou
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replace fisher with b davis or billups
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by LakersFoEva on Dec 10, 2011 10:07 PM PST up reply actions
PG by commitee.
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Laker Nation stand up!
by Zen and Tonic on Dec 10, 2011 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
I keep saying it
Start Darius Morris.
The PuertoRican Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 10, 2011 10:11 PM PST up reply actions
Three headed beast...for now
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by Zen and Tonic on Dec 10, 2011 10:12 PM PST up reply actions
I'd prefer Morris start than a decrepit vet.
Being a veteran is over rated.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 10:17 PM PST up reply actions
Should I be offended that a 36 year old man that is in much better shape than me....
has just been described as decrepit?
Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."
oops, I am 36 as well. should have mentioned that
Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."
REC
so many glasses half empty. I’m over CP3. This organization doesn’t get where it does by fucking up.
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
The Odom salary dump helps out 2 ways.
Mainly, it saves us $$ which we would have had to do with the new CBA sooner or later.
Secondly, it effectively puts Dallas out of the running for D12 by using up their trade exception for Chandler.
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
Lamar Odom - "Half Swiss-Army knife, half Pez-dispenser" Meriones
Well, Odom was a key piece in acquiring Dwight....
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
Lamar Odom - "Half Swiss-Army knife, half Pez-dispenser" Meriones
At least it's only a 2 team race between NJ and us
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
Lamar Odom - "Half Swiss-Army knife, half Pez-dispenser" Meriones
chill you guys
mitch works better when nobody knows what the hell hes doing
Lakers fan since the first grade.
LO's demise is a perfect example of why you should ALWAYS stay professional
and never take business matters personal.
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
Yeah, as sad as it is, I really think he's brought this on himself.
I understand how sensitive he is and that this was a family to him, but shit, dude, you gotta get a grip and get to work.
You're only a success for the moment that you complete a successful act. - Tex Winter
Tweetness
Exactly.
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
lol
@ESPNLandOLakers
Hope Jim Buss knows when the trade machine “approves,” it’s not giving literal approval. AK #BynumPauForDwightHedo
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by xylodemon on Dec 10, 2011 10:05 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
HELL NO
HELLZ NAW.
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius
lol nooooooo
somebody tell him lol
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So what is the recent news on the trade?
Any word on when Stern will approve or deny the trade?
by !AtlFalcons-fan! on Dec 10, 2011 10:06 PM PST reply actions
lol
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way too late....
lmao
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by LakersFoEva on Dec 10, 2011 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
Holy crap just read it. Damn Iam late haha
Was too busy with UFC 140
by !AtlFalcons-fan! on Dec 10, 2011 10:11 PM PST up reply actions
THAT was awesome.
Great card.
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by Zen and Tonic on Dec 10, 2011 10:14 PM PST up reply actions
Dwight would be great, but....
Our shitty PG situation will go on.
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
Lamar Odom - "Half Swiss-Army knife, half Pez-dispenser" Meriones
Billups and Baron are on the market
Hopefully we can land one of them, preferably the 1st one
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 10:08 PM PST up reply actions
They're not on the market per se, they got amnestied
Under-cap teams bid on them. That’s why Chauncey was having a hissy-fit earlier today
Which is why I highly doubt a team will pick him up now
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
He would play hard for LA, we're a contender. He just doesn't want to go to Minn or Cavs
Or some other non contending team
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 10:13 PM PST up reply actions
i'd rather see davis than billups at this point.
by tiger child on Dec 10, 2011 10:14 PM PST up reply actions
fine by
My point was there are stop gaps at PG, but starting centers are harder to come by
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 10:15 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
which i completely agree with.
my take on the offseason has always been – if you’re going after any big name, go after howard. build around a center and find a serviceable point guard.
by tiger child on Dec 10, 2011 10:16 PM PST up reply actions
Theres also arenas too, but he shouldn't be a first option for LA
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
Yup since we're the highest over the cap,
we literally are last to get a shot at them. Even the Heat will go before us. He wants a contender and we are the last contender to get him.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
Ahhh I see.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 10:52 PM PST up reply actions
If amnestied, we have to wait til weak teams under the cap get first shot.
Big Shot is already acting out in the media because his last year will be with a bottom dweller…
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by Zen and Tonic on Dec 10, 2011 10:18 PM PST up reply actions
You see the irony in that we have had a "shitty PG situation" during a time we won back to back titles
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
I am sorry (and I know I am going to get a bunch of shit for this)...
but I don’t think of Fisher as a shitty PG.
Bring it on now.
Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."
Lol that can be a new insult style, “fractions of Stern douche” haha
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 11:17 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
at first I read that as 10x the douche that Stern is...
I was like damn, that’s harsh.
Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."
He's not a shitty PG.
He’s old and past his prime, yes. But shitty? Nope.
Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 11:10 PM PST up reply actions
yeah, fish is definitely not shitty.
though, without the triangle, its going to be tough.
by tiger child on Dec 10, 2011 11:11 PM PST up reply actions
At least at PG
We can find some short term options, Billups, Miller, or other lower end trade options. With Kobe we don’t need a top flight PG, just a guy to start the offense, hit jump shots and play solid defense against the quick PGA that can hurt us so badly
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 10:10 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
The NBA is Warcraft 2, and David Stern typed and entered, "unite the clans".
Slava.
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Amen!
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"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius
there you go
way to bring back everyone from the ledge
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wut
GotEm_Coach: I love CP3, but Dwight is the better, younger, healthier player. However, Pau AND Bynum is too much for him. The guy has no post game.
well thats nonsense.
and anyway, there’s no way we’re giving up pau and drew.
by tiger child on Dec 10, 2011 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
Really?
You clear cap space and get the best Center for the last 5 and the next 5 seasons. I’d do that in a heartbeat
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Dec 10, 2011 10:20 PM PST up reply actions
And then we lose our PF
Gasol and Bynum is a hell of alot more than Brook Lopez. We’re not giving both
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 10:21 PM PST up reply actions
I agree
but 2 1st rounders and Brook wasnt gonna get it done I didn’t think either. I dunno, how much longer is Kobes deal? I wouldnt mind clearing the cap space for a future of D12 and possibly Westbrook, Rose, Wall etc.
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Dec 10, 2011 10:30 PM PST up reply actions
For when those guys hit FA i mean.
Pau is very very good, just when there is a way to get Dwight Howard I say you do whatevers necessary. Him and Lebron, those are the only 2 i would trade whatever for.
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Dec 10, 2011 10:30 PM PST up reply actions
rose is the only one of those guys i'd really want for the future.
but we arent there yet. kobe has more years left. especially if the scoring load can be shifted to another proven player – howard and we retain our incredible PF threat.
i guess what im saying is – we shouldnt have to “trade whatever” to get howard. pau does not have to be involved to trump a nets offer that includes lopez. that would mean that smith would have to believe lopez > bynum. not even lopez believes that.
by tiger child on Dec 10, 2011 10:33 PM PST up reply actions
Tell that to Nets Daily
i think thats 6 of one half a dozen situation. Lopez is very polished offensively, moreso than howard i would say… just obviously he doesnt have the physicality howard has. Now, defensively and the fact he averaged like 5.5 rebounds last season is mind-numbing… I thought Amare was a bad rebounder, but that’s more insane than when Yao averaged like 9 a game at 7’5’"
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Dec 10, 2011 10:40 PM PST up reply actions
right. but you dont want to take on a pathetic defensive center if you can have someone intimidating like drew.
so long as he can keep his cool and mature (and not get injured) he has the potential to be the best big in the league in some years. you cant say the same about lopez.
by tiger child on Dec 10, 2011 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
But
the injury history is a concern. I think its closer than youre giving it credit, although I too would prefer the potential of Bynum. But wasnt it after the 2009 season lopez was spoken about in as high a manner as anybody from that draft?
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Dec 10, 2011 10:44 PM PST up reply actions
maybe? i dont know. lopez never really factors in much to the whole of the nba scene it seems.
probably because he’s on the nets more than anything else. but he’s not a dude who is carrying his team or anything. he has some upside, and isnt a total wash. but, again barring injuries to bynum, he has the potential to be great. i mean, i’ve never been completely sold on giving him up, even if it meant getting howard. having a true center is so rare these days. but now with phil gone, the triangle gone, and his knack of getting injured against the grizzlies, i just figure – if we’re going to do this, then do this. but i dont see pau being necessary. nor do i see mitch being willing to go to that length. giving up pau and lamar to pull chris paul, with the pieces to still potentially land howard is one thing. but if you’re giving lamar to dallas, then you have to expect they are going after howard with only drew as a main cog.
by tiger child on Dec 10, 2011 10:48 PM PST up reply actions
This is smith we are talking about
so I could be dead wrong, just I don’t see how you can give up just Drew… because you guys dont have any lottery picks, and most likely wont. Then again, if Howard goes to theNets with Dwill, tha twnot be a lottery pick either, so I guess hes in a bit of a pickle.
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Dec 10, 2011 10:51 PM PST up reply actions
well thats what you have to imagine the trade of odom would be good for.
getting picks to sweeten the bynum deal.
by tiger child on Dec 10, 2011 10:52 PM PST up reply actions
The Mavs 1st rounder though? The 27th pick?
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Dec 10, 2011 10:56 PM PST up reply actions
yeah. who knows at this point what mitch would be offering to the magic.
i guess my bottom line is, if smith says that its only a go if its bynum and pau? then dont do it. not worth it.
by tiger child on Dec 10, 2011 10:58 PM PST up reply actions
I hear that
I’m on the other side though, I think Dwight with somebody as capable as Kobe still is, you guys can make it to the finals possibly. Pau is very good, but Dwight is such a difference maker. I wouldn’t take anybody over him, and like i said Lebron is kinda close, then after that i’d say its a few steps down to the next best player.
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Dec 10, 2011 11:02 PM PST up reply actions
i'd take dwight over lebron on any day.
but i can see your point about trading anything to get howard. we’d just manage our teams a little differently. i just dont think it would come to that, because i dont think smith would think he could convince mitch to give up both of them.
by tiger child on Dec 10, 2011 11:04 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah maybe I didnt make that clear
Dwight way before Lebron and then after lebron probably 10 steps down to the next guy… Wade? I dunno, i actually think Wade along with Durant are currently 2 of the more overrated players… Just with the dominance and youth of Dwight, and all the young guys going into the 3rd years of their rookie deals, I would def roll the dice of one of them coming to the Lakers… Hell everybody wants to play in LA or NY anyway, throw in Dwight and it makes it near automatic… But if ya dont have to, then of course not, youre right on that
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Dec 10, 2011 11:07 PM PST up reply actions
i agree about durant, he's a great scorer but needs a lot of work on the rest of his game.
wade i like, but im on the fence about. but as far as the 2 goes, he’s up there. though i’d still consider kobe the best 2 in the game. part biased and part because he’s just that bad of a dude.
yeah it’ll be interesting, assuming we are able to pull howard without losing pau, to see how things shape up in the next few years.
by tiger child on Dec 10, 2011 11:10 PM PST up reply actions
Regarding Duran
People all too often forget to acknowledge the downright ridiculous job Presti has done. That team is stacked. Harden is awesome, no way around that, westbrook is an eliet player, and I think Ibaka is the next to step forward. And Presti is just a genius, he didnt pull a Danny Ferry, or Ernie Grunfeld (I think he was the Wiz’ GM at the time) and overpay for a Jeff Green, and I think Perkins is really gonna step up for them this year over a year after the surgery now. I am picking the heat this year with a sliver of hope for my knicks, but In no way will I discount that Thunder team.
Im just curious, what do you think of the Knicks roster? I think we are close to adding Barea, and maybe (hopefully) Baron Davis. If we get Davis my confidence will skyrocket, but;
Barea/Douglas/Bibby
Shumpert/Douglas/Fields
Melo/Shawne Williams??/Fields
Amare/Jared Jeffries (sigh)
Chandler/jerome Jordan/Josh Harelson
You throw Davis in and I am very very confident.
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Dec 10, 2011 11:17 PM PST up reply actions
but giving up pau as well? when you clearly wouldnt have to?
thats a completely unnecessary move. pau is one of the elite players in the league and isnt old.
by tiger child on Dec 10, 2011 10:21 PM PST up reply actions
I knew there was a reason I unfollowed him. He's a moron.
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by Hdg23 on Dec 10, 2011 10:08 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
^^^^^THIS
"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung
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by Zen and Tonic on Dec 10, 2011 10:20 PM PST up reply actions
well hopefully
we get howard, chris paul sues on monday and something something david stern is banished from society.
he needs to be taken to outerspace
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Shit
Why did we trade LO if we could’ve just done that
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lol
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OK
but ideally we send them Slava as well, and maybe Smush. Why would ORL do this?
It's a joke, bro.
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can they send the draft picks from dallas plus pau to NO for chris paul?
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Mitch: How is that even possible? These guys will be straight from college.
Stern: Well go younger, I want straight from high school then!
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 10:15 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
LOL
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by Zen and Tonic on Dec 10, 2011 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
I don't see why not.
The general assumption however, is that the Lakers have moved onto Dwight.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 10:11 PM PST up reply actions
hes prob playing nba 2k12
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IN MITCH WE TRUST
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THIS^^^^
He’s yet to let us down yet, wait to see the man complete his work before we judge it.
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 10:12 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
"Number 2:
Never let em know your next move. Dont you know bad boys Mitch moves in silence and violence" -The Notorious BIG
This
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
Ok after going through the initial shock and anger
I believe in you Mitch, don’t let me down!
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 10:11 PM PST reply actions
just to keep score
we have lost chris paul AND lamar odom.
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AND Draft picks
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"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius
AND
Sources say Mitch has committed to shattering Nowitski’s knee caps to up the value of the draft pick as part of the D12 trade.
thats only funny if you add brian shaw to it
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both on truly on Stern's head tho
Odom was going anyway, but we were screwed out of Paul
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 10:14 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
For those of you losing faith in this organization's resolve I think you are giving up too easy
In my book 16 titles generates some form of confidence in my fandom. Love your Lakers everyone…..Love your Lakers.
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I still have faith in the Lakers
but the NBA is a joke now.
The NBA is amazing its the person running it that has always been a joke.
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
Yes..in part that is true.
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
His actions made the NBA
to what it is today, too. I lived during the 70s and 80s and DAMN the NBA then was nothing compared to what it is now thanks to David Stern.
Yeah
and he’s done many good things and he’s done some things not so good. This would be in the latter category.
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Bynum and picks is better than Brook Lopez and picks. You don’t need to trump Brook Lopez with Pau Gasol. Sorry.
yep
these are not the basketball players you are looking for
jedi mind trick
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Makes sense but now that Orlando knows that LA is willing to give up Pau you can't blame them for trying
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I would do it blind folded
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
unless they'd rather have picks than Odom
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Why not just make a three-team deal
Odom to Mavs
Howard to Lakers
Bynum + picks to Magic
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by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 10:17 PM PST up reply actions
not sure id cuban woudl have done that,
if he knew we were going to get howard as a result.
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by LakersFoEva on Dec 10, 2011 10:19 PM PST up reply actions
my thoughts exactly...it's a much "safer" trade
though maybe dallas won’t want to be directly involved in the trade for howard and wants LA to take the chance
Mitch has asomething else up his sleave
"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung
by LakersFoEva on Dec 10, 2011 10:22 PM PST up reply actions
Unless Orl wants picks over older players. They just traded for Glen Davis and will be rebuilding. Bynum is young and fits, but Odom is on the old side for a rebuilding team
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 10:17 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
@forumbluegold: A point a commenter just made @ FB&G: Jameer fits into the trade exception from the proposed Odom trade…
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basically Bynum + Odom TE= Howard + Nelson
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can we do two seperate trades???
Bynum + LO te for Howard & Jameer
Blake, picks & sasha te for Turkoglu
????
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by LakersFoEva on Dec 10, 2011 10:22 PM PST up reply actions
Mitch HAS to have a plan
he wouldnt give odom away to dallas like that. there HAS to be a reason. if he pulls something cool off i’ll never call him Mitch Cupcake again
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Yup...the plan was get rid of the disgruntled employee.
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i think this is pretty much it
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and without talking to any other teams about Odom? doesnt make sense
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Time may have been an issue
You take a good offer for what you need, without getting to cute by shopping it around
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 10:19 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
It would be a great offer for a rebuilding team.
We’re the fucking Lakers, what the hell do we need to dump salary for?
Mitch Cupcake?
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that would be tight
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if this happens.
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Just pulled this trade out of my ass
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cxxcqr3
We get our PG of the future, get a decent replacement for Bynum, while dumping Luke’s contract.
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by SoCalGal on Dec 10, 2011 10:18 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
HAHA
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 10:19 PM PST up reply actions
lol
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Why not just dump Luke's contract and get our PG of the present and future?
by r2rokid on Dec 10, 2011 10:19 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I dunno man,
I don’t think it’s a fair trade. The Bulls get to pay a million less next year. If I’ve learned anything from the Chris Paul trade, it is that the Lakers would be getting ripped off by this trade.
That's what I'm saying,
the Lakers are getting ripped off man. Lose Swagbro, and have to pay 1 mill extra?! Not worth it.
Why stop there?
by Bacalao on Dec 10, 2011 10:23 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Guys, let's not be ridiculous now.
Do you guys know we’d have to pay $mil more with this trade? Why would we do such a dumb thing? You guys are trippin.
lol
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Admittedly this is a clusterass of a trade but...
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ccraz8p
I think it makes sense for each team, and we’d get deeper. Of course, this trade would have best been pursued PRIOR to the madness that was this weekend.
Slava.
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So.....
After Dwight, Beno Udrih/Baron Davis? eh? Anyone?
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Just got in.....WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
What is the nature of your thoughts, gentlemen, when you say "fuddle duddle" or something like that?
So wtf happened????? \
What is the nature of your thoughts, gentlemen, when you say "fuddle duddle" or something like that?
dudeee... lol I go so The Sitter, I come back and like everything has changed
So they traded LO for what? And WHYYY
What is the nature of your thoughts, gentlemen, when you say "fuddle duddle" or something like that?
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WHY
What is the nature of your thoughts, gentlemen, when you say "fuddle duddle" or something like that?
basketball reasons
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I will go batshit if Cuban uses Odom to land DH12
"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec
that never occured to me.
now I’m suddenly paranoid.
A hotdog at the game beats roast beef at the Ritz -- Humphrey Bogart
Dammit find out now!
Mike_Bresnahan Mike Bresnahan
Can’t imagine it was really a straight salary dump. If it’s truly the reason, Lakers have a lot of explaining to do. Will know later…
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 10:23 PM PST reply actions
Can't be a salary dump
Since when have the Lakers ever worried about money?
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"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius
Mitch must have an endgame we don't understand.
I’m sure he’s not plugging names into the trade generator and waiting for the display to read CHAMPIONSHIP!
(at least, I hope he isn’t)
A hotdog at the game beats roast beef at the Ritz -- Humphrey Bogart
Mitch, No
Jim Buss…. maybe lol
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 10:26 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Hmmm...
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Tweetness
by SoCalGal on Dec 10, 2011 10:23 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Mind Blown
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius
nice
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"Fisher's defense is called escort service in my country, just accompany" -Ibou
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HAHAH WTF?!
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So is this weird?
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- A fan of the Warriors and Lakers.
But she got stroke though
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- SF GIants Baseball 2011 = *sigh* Home of 6 World Series Titles
- SF 49ers Football 2011-2012 = ??? Home of the 5.5 Super Bowl Champs ( Aaron Rodgers should of been a Niner)
- WHO'S GOT IT BETTER THAN US???? NOOOOOOOOOOBODYY!!!!!!!!!!!!
- A fan of the Warriors and Lakers.
at least kanye had a plan
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To be fair they were both drunk
Kanye on Hennesy and Stern on power
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 10:25 PM PST up reply actions
LMAO THIS ONE HAS ME STRAIGHT UP GIGGLING
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 10:24 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
i dont know whats more concerning.
that people are out there making these. or that they are based on reality.
by tiger child on Dec 10, 2011 10:25 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
WTF... Odom gift wrapped for the Mavs?!
For nothing but a pick? Really?!
by ap3604 on Dec 10, 2011 10:26 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Not just a pick....
maybe two picks
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 10:27 PM PST up reply actions
Cannot believe the 6th man of the year would have that little value as an exporting contract =(
by ap3604 on Dec 10, 2011 10:27 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
exporting = expiring
stupid auto correct
by ap3604 on Dec 10, 2011 10:28 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Okay so have we found out why we traded LO yet?
What is the nature of your thoughts, gentlemen, when you say "fuddle duddle" or something like that?
confirmed
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To hopefully get Howard and an older player whose contract is more with more years on it
Da Bears....enuff said
True
Pretty big fucking risk though
What is the nature of your thoughts, gentlemen, when you say "fuddle duddle" or something like that?
I think it's a dumb move...
we probably couldve gotten a decent Young PG for Odom
Da Bears....enuff said
Maybe
But then we would have had to give up Pau to get Howard.
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 10:32 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
so be it. i have zero faith in pau.
Da Bears....enuff said
by EmmCeee on Dec 10, 2011 11:24 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
With Howard the he would have to worry about less on the defensive end and could focus on his mid-range game that makes him so lethal as a low post threat while DH worked deep in the paint
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 11:26 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
so be it. i have zero faith in pau.
Da Bears....enuff said
by EmmCeee on Dec 10, 2011 11:24 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
that he didnt get traded for cp3 kinda does
Other than that it is what it is. Maybe the trade talks lights a fire under his ass and he plays like a man this year
Da Bears....enuff said
by EmmCeee on Dec 10, 2011 11:34 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Zero faith in the second most important player on 2 Title Teams.
Ok then.
I don’t care about last season considering that no one played well in that series and the Mavs were hungrier.
"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."
"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."
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Yeah honestly what the fuck
He better get D12 or Lakerland is gonna revolt
What is the nature of your thoughts, gentlemen, when you say "fuddle duddle" or something like that?
masterplan
RT @KhloeKardashian: I am really excited :)
"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec
The media doesn't get it, we don't get it, NO ONE knows what our next move is
that must mean basketball reasons cant stop us since were back to our old tricks
i wish the nba was still locked out
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i'm trying to figure out
how anyone is going to be ready to play in 14 days.
A hotdog at the game beats roast beef at the Ritz -- Humphrey Bogart
So why couldn't we get Paul guys? What happened there
What is the nature of your thoughts, gentlemen, when you say "fuddle duddle" or something like that?
couldn't appease Emperor Stern
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Yessir.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 10:31 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
LOL
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nice
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by Zen and Tonic on Dec 10, 2011 10:33 PM PST up reply actions
Again!?
ಠ_ಠ
…
What is the nature of your thoughts, gentlemen, when you say "fuddle duddle" or something like that?
with Stern's goal of not letting CP out of NOH
he, basically kept asking for more until we couldn’t comply.
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Previous discussions stalled when the Clippers refused to include sharpshooter Eric Gordon in the deal, and the leverage New Orleans had to hold out for a better offer is now gone — ironically, killed by the league’s refusal to approve the original deal that would’ve sent Paul to the Lakers and the subsequent collapse of the talks to revise the deal.
Slava.
http://www.twitter.com/hobojarpen
i dont find it ironic at all
for basketball reasons
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I'd be cool with this whole situation,
If the Clippers got CP3
and we got Dwight.
"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung
by LakersFoEva on Dec 10, 2011 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
Uhhh no, because that means we should have had both
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 10:33 PM PST up reply actions
but we will still have pau.
"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung
by LakersFoEva on Dec 10, 2011 10:34 PM PST up reply actions
Ironic is the wrong term
this is exactly what a lot of people knew would happen. The Hornets get the worst end of the deal out of all this.
is this trade feasible/possible/attractive?
we’d obviously be adding draft picks and using trade exceptions as well.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=77p98uq
Slava.
http://www.twitter.com/hobojarpen
That is SO much worse
than the 3-team trade we had going…….
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Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
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by douchiedude on Dec 10, 2011 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
CP3 won't sign and will change locker rooms on July 2
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by Zen and Tonic on Dec 10, 2011 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
The other Donald
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by Zen and Tonic on Dec 10, 2011 10:46 PM PST up reply actions
All of whom would bail out of the Clippers at the end of their contracts.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 10:39 PM PST up reply actions
I'm just basing it off of what has happened in the past.
Has any of the Clippers franchise players stayed? Nope.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 10:44 PM PST up reply actions
Jordan is probably going to GSW
not sure the clippers will match their offer
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by LakersFoEva on Dec 10, 2011 10:39 PM PST up reply actions
Eric Gordon has to be part of the deal
Only way talks will even begin. And if they’d still have to give up at least 4 players to get CP3. Stern can’t accept any trade thats not clearly better for NO
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 10:39 PM PST up reply actions
They would be getting "young talent"
At this point, if Stern tries to force Steph Curry or Eric Gordon, I think both those teams will simply not bother.
I think Celtics and their Rondo deal might still win it though.
I don't know why magic won't take odom
yea he’s old, but you could flip him for a pretty good deal…much better than what the mavs are giving us for odom
They will, mark my words the Odom deal will play a role in landing us DH.
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 10:33 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
it has to be the case. mitch isnt careless like that.
there’s a reason we’re the fucking lakers.
by tiger child on Dec 10, 2011 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
I am hoping u are right 2
If he gets traded to New Jersey, we are fucked!!
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we just want to turn him into D12...
if the magic wanted trade exception & draft picks…they could’ve dealt odom themselves
A 30 year old held no value to Orl and other teams knew that so they wouldn’t have been able to get anything for him. By the same token teams knew that Odom was pissed and wanted out so Mitch cut bait before things got worse to get something that he could use to get Howard before Odom sunk his own trade value by throwing a fit..
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 10:37 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
whatevers we get from dallas from odom
is basically going to orl…
orl could’ve just done that one their own (trade odom away on their own) and probably a better deal than what dallas gave us.
David Stern demanded the lakers give the hornets the lost city of atlantis for chris paul
mitch kupchek hung up the phone
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faintly ridiculous, but,
http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/33792495
This article is suggesting that D12 and CP3 could both end up with the Clippers if the planets align just the right way.
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if that happens
I’m rearranging the locker rooms at Staples so the Lakers turn out to be the team with BG, CP3, DH12
"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec
Who the hell chooses to play for Donald Sterling
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 10:36 PM PST up reply actions
Really, because history kinda shows otherwise
A large majority of players read the news, hear the rumors, and such. That plays a factor, if it didn’t the Clippers would have had a semblance of success by now.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 10:44 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah right who they going to trade?
Blake and Gordon?? If Stern nix our deal because of competive balance, I wonder what he will say when he sees this come across his table
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well we're basically doing bynum/odom for dwight/turkey
tis not as if we gutted the team though it feels that way.
i say we trade bynum/blake/sasha tpe/dal picks for dwight/turk…possible financially?
and save the odom tpe for our next sixth man. we still have mini mle and vet min.
in other news, is gasol and scola worlds apart? was really tempted by pau for scola/martin/maybe patterson and pick. that would solve some problems and make us deep.
in mitch we trust. not to say am praying to a higher power
but 3 starting PFs!
Lakers could use Bass
"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec
yeah they may try to play small ball considering what accounts for a center nowadays
shrewd move but am not accepting boston leaves this mess better than we
ill trade them bynum for the 2008 championship
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Why we don't have CP3
Mitch: Morey can you give up Hill
Morey: sure
Demps: Wow really, let me ask stern
Stern: no need moar!
Demps: Why we have 4 starts and this guy..
Stern: (O)-(O) demps!, Im only gonna tell you this until you get it….Basketball Reasons
Mitch: This sum bullshit, Im gone, Oh btw tell Mark and Dan Im getting Dwight(hangs up)
what about this trade?
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=77p98uq
we’d obviously be adding draft picks and using trade exceptions as well.
Slava.
http://www.twitter.com/hobojarpen
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wojnarowski_lakers_out_of_paul_trade_talks_121011
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and the long drag continues
i could imagine the pressure mitch is in. not used to dealing in the eyes of media. stern took away our stealth and replaced our management brilliance with childish arrogance.
seriously Stern?
The Hornets had delivered a reconstructed framework of the three-team blockbuster trade that would have sent Paul to the Lakers into the NBA office for approval Saturday, but the NBA still refused to approve it.
There was a framework discussed where New Orleans would send Paul to the Lakers, and possibly two Hornets free agents – center Jason Smith and Marcus Banks – would be sent to the Lakers in sign-and-trade agreements.
The Rockets would send Kevin Martin, Luis Scola, a 2012 first-round pick and possibly young players or additional picks to the Hornets.
The Lakers would send Odom to the Hornets, Pau Gasol to the Rockets and league sources say that Los Angeles was pursuing a first-round pick to send to the Hornets.
"It’s in David Stern’s hands now," one source said Saturday. "He’ll decide on the trade."
The NBA was clearly dictating terms of the possible trade of Paul to the Lakers. The league office is running the Hornets, while it waits to sell them to an ownership group. The NBA took over the Hornets in December, buying them from George Shinn.
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might be a bit extreme, but i'd rather still be stuck in a lockout right now
Slava.
http://www.twitter.com/hobojarpen
seriously, did stern shoot down our deal again?
just played 2k12 then this?
it's baffling
that the league thinks keeping Chris Paul, who said he will leave, makes them more valuable.
hahaha, i just realized the lakers coitus interruptused of this three way deal *giggling like a school girl*
Slava.
http://www.twitter.com/hobojarpen
huh?
"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker
"Fisher's defense is called escort service in my country, just accompany" -Ibou
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stern just made the lakers blow an otherwise solid team
i could only hope blessing in disguise or cry conspiracy
10:45
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 10:44 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
this whole thing was like watching a car crash
just keeps getting worse
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I'm slightly confused
Why did we just give Odom away instead of trade him?
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Maybe Odom (specifically a disgruntled Odom) doesn't generate enough interest
And teams felt like they couldn’t resign him
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 10:50 PM PST up reply actions
I initially thought
We planned to put the trade exception Dallas is giving us towards a D12 trade, but Hollinger says our math doesn’t add up.
A hotdog at the game beats roast beef at the Ritz -- Humphrey Bogart
Mitch obviously knows something we don't
And I’m afraid I’m going to be glued to twitter until I figure out what it is.
A hotdog at the game beats roast beef at the Ritz -- Humphrey Bogart
I keep saying it and no one listens, the deal was more for the draft picks to send to Orl than a trade exception. The TE could be used to adjust our depth at other positions.
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 10:47 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
we still need to make the salaries work though
who else is ORL going to want from us?
we’re NOT giving up both pau & bynum
But why not just make a three teamer that gives us Howard
Send the picks and Bynum to the Magic.
Send Odom to the Mavs.
We get Howard.
so much safer instead of worrying if Magic will bite. If they don’t, then you keep Odom, and all is fine.
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by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 10:50 PM PST up reply actions
i've given up on figuring this out
they know something we don’t
that, or there’s something majorly wrong in this move
For Thine is
Life is
For Thine is the
That’s why Mitch did it separate, as far as the Mavs are concerned we dumped salary and a disgruntled player to them, nothing more.
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 10:54 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
i'm pretty sure mavs know what we're up to
but they’d rather see us take the huge gamble instead of netting howard for sure
HAHAHAHAH this describes this whole debacle perfectly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX2gz3U82vM
Slava.
http://www.twitter.com/hobojarpen
Why did we trade Odom?
1 first round and 1 second round pick don’t mean s***
by ap3604 on Dec 10, 2011 10:47 PM PST reply actions
from the world champs no less
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Can we have some perspective please?
Look, I’m as upset as everyone here is right now, but can we please tone down the entitled attitude? All the “we SHOULD have Paul” and “we SHOULD have Dwight” comments are obnoxious.
We’ve won 2(!) championships in the last 4 years! If we’re honest with ourselves, we’ve been coddled by the league more than any other team. NO other team in the league enjoys the favorable treatment we’ve gotten so many times (just think back to the Pau trade; come on, what other team in the league could pull that off?). We need to be THANKFUL for what we’ve already been blessed with, and acknowledge it may be time to rebuild. HELL, we’ll probably barely even have to rebuild. We’ll reload in no time at all.
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Wasn’t the point of trading all our bigs was to rebuild…………………
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 10:48 PM PST up reply actions
lol exactly what i thought to
mitch better pull something out his ass this week
well with what has happened, we do need to pull something in out of this mess.
but i dont know that most of the comments are necessarily entitled. i think its just frustration and confusion as this whole thing has panned out and fear of losing more than we’re going to get back.
by tiger child on Dec 10, 2011 10:49 PM PST up reply actions
How would feel if your team but together a fair trade to get on bonafide top 5 player and the Czar… Commish decided to veto the trade not once but twice because he had other owners whining in his ear? The trade for Paul was legit so by all rights he was a Laker and then a power hungry old man took him away from us.
A Ravens fan on the wrong side of the country!!
by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 10:57 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Look, Kupchak is an amazing GM
But if we’re honest with ourselves, there are some undeniable perks we enjoy simply by being a big market team other teams don’t get.
sure we're a big market team. but we're a big market team that has been run uncannily well for...well, forever.
management, decisions, patience make a huge difference. ask the knicks.
by tiger child on Dec 10, 2011 10:54 PM PST up reply actions
Please don't start this,
just go be a Blazer fan on Blazersedge instead of trying to look down on Laker fans and the Laker organization.
Says the non-Lakers fan. So fucking what? It's not our fault we live in an awesome city and have an amazing, winning basketball team.
So what if we get perks?
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Tweetness
I don't even think we get perks
we just haven’t given up an asset or had an asset get away from us before it was too late. =/ We sell high and buy low, and it works. That’s all there is to it.
Well, that's not exactly the spirit of competitive basketball...
But you can acknowledge that we have “perks” and enjoy them at the same time.
Bullshit. Competitive basketball is played on the court. I don't play, I cheer them on.
And stop using “we”. You just joined SS&R today, and you’re not a Lakers fan. Stop insulting “us”.
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Tweetness
by SoCalGal on Dec 10, 2011 10:59 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Jeez...
As much as I’d absolutely love for us to land both Chris Paul and DH12, I don’t think you can legitimately call having CP3, DH12 and Kobe going against a team with no stars “competitive” basketball. I just don’t like this stars aligning thing – not just with us, but with the Knicks and the Heat as well. I miss the good old days when stars would stick it out with the teams that drafted them, ie. Dirk.
I miss the good old days when stars would stick it out with the teams that drafted them, ie. Dirk.
uhhh.. Kobe?
http://nbawarriors.wordpress.com/
lakers didn't draft Kobe.
Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."
Draft day trades
might as well be drafts
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
I don't remember the exact situation, but I think it was later that summer.
Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."
No, it was basically draft day.
Jerry West convinced the Nets not to take Kobe on draft day and convinced the Hornets to draft him if he fell to them.
You're only a success for the moment that you complete a successful act. - Tex Winter
Tweetness
Jerry West convinced...
Or told Brian Shaw to use the force and tell 12 General Managers to pass up on him.
But they ware the only team he’s played for and the team that believed in him enough to trade to get him. So for all intents and purposes Kibe was drafted by the Lakers.
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 11:33 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
i.e. kobe.
and the good old days had less teams and the stars were more concentrated by default.
by tiger child on Dec 10, 2011 11:03 PM PST up reply actions
Well, fuck if those other teams aren't competing against the Lakers, why the fuck are they even playing?
Contract every team in the league except the Lakers and the Heat. Everyone else can go to hell, right? Dude, please.
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No, I've just stopped paying any attention to you, that's all.
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there has and always will be disparity between the placement of talent in the league. its unavoidable.
by tiger child on Dec 10, 2011 11:07 PM PST up reply actions
True, but not to the degree it's heading towards.
I’d rather have genuine, competitive teams playing than 4 super teams dominating the league.
Well that's never going to happen.
Just like how there’s always going to be rich folk and poor folk.
Affectionately,
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 11:11 PM PST up reply actions
Just FYI that “super” was beaten by a “non-super” in the finals thus past year so Ud say things balanced out in the end
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 11:11 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
i think we should just get rid of 10 teams.
dispense the proven talent, drop the dudes who are mostly just filler in the league at this point, and go from there.
by tiger child on Dec 10, 2011 11:12 PM PST up reply actions
This is dismissing the front office job of acquiring teams in a competitive manner,
the only way to have all teams be equal each year is to re-draft all teams, and hope no one gets lucky EACH year. Obviously some transactions are going to work out better than others, and it makes the teams less balanced. That’s part of the fun. Had Oden and Roy not gotten hurt, the Blazers would be a far better team than they are now. Had Kobe not recovered from his 2003~ knee injuries, the Lakers wouldn’t have won any championships. Them’s the breaks.
Really?
Stars have always left their teams, Barkley demanded a trade, Kareem left small market Bucks to go to LA, Wilt left. The hell are you talking about, some players stays others go. It how the league has always been, stars leave for either money or because they want to win. Malone left for a ring, GP became a journey man. Its always gonna happen,
don’t be mad that your team passed up 3 HOFers to match up with Drexler which started your descent into mediocrity
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 11:11 PM PST up reply actions
Like what?
We haven’t landed anyone (YET)! Pau didn’t even know he was coming here!
It also helps when you don't mismanage your franchise
Look at the Clippers, same city WAY different results. The Spurs have won more championships in the last 20 years than the Knicks and Celtics combined. Just because you have a big market team, doesn’t mean you win.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 10:56 PM PST up reply actions
Completely agreed. If anything our management has been extraordinary.
At the same time, I know in the back of my mind that if we were to tank, the NBA would do what it could within the boundaries of “fairness” to make us a good team again. A significant portion of it is about money.
You are so full of shit it's amazing.
Stop saying ‘we’ and ‘our.’ You’re embarassing yourself.
by LAMojo on Dec 10, 2011 11:02 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm just being honest.
You really think the NBA would let the Lakers franchise tank? We’re important to the business.
Why are you saying our when your a Blazers fan?
Yea money def plays a factor, but the Cavs were spending as much money as anyone else in the league in 07-09 and what did that get them??? Also you can use the draft and scouting, we traded Divac (a proven Center) for essentially a High School kid that became Kobe Bryant. That had nothing to do with the fact that it was the Lakers and everything to do with how awesome LA management is.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 11:04 PM PST up reply actions
Why can't I just be a basketball fan?
I hate the notion that being a Blazers fan automatically disqualifies me from also being a Lakers fan.
but cant you say "you guys" or "the lakers" instead of including yourself in us?
im a basketball fan, and i like the bulls, but i’d never go over there and say “we” or “us” after saying kind of rude things about the people commenting.
by tiger child on Dec 10, 2011 11:06 PM PST up reply actions
No it doesn't
I live in Miami and when I talk to Heat fans i don’t say “we” or “us” because im not a Heat fan. Living in a city doesn’t make you ENTITLED to say anything of that nature. And you seem to be completely avoding the rest of what I said, but i see that your a troll and im done.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 11:14 PM PST up reply actions
I already apologized for the frustrated wording of my original comment below.
And you’re saying you’re not a Heat fan. Well I happen to be a Lakers fan so I’m not sure what you’re gettinga t with that.
Technically, none of us can use "we" in reference to our favorite teams.
Since we’re not technically members of the team, but I’m a hypocrite and still do.
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Dec 10, 2011 11:15 PM PST up reply actions
residing in LA doesnt really mean you can be a "we" if you're a fan of another team.
i guess the last thing i’ll say on the subject, because its well old, frankly, is that if you come to a blog where loyal fans are venting and talking to each other about the confusion and frustration they have, and call them entitled, and then turn around and refer to yourself as a part of them…its just not the most welcome approach.
by tiger child on Dec 10, 2011 11:16 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Nobody has a problem with you being a Blazers fan.
They’re just upset that you continue to use words like “sense of entitlement” and making it seem like Laker fans are spoiled babies and grouping the rest of them with you by using “we.” It’s like me saying “We’re all fucking idiots.” I can only speak for myself, not everyone else.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 11:08 PM PST up reply actions
we're not at the stage of rebuilding yet
if we are rebuilding, it should be after kobe leaves, not while we owe him 30 mil/year
What I'm trying to get at is that it's not some cosmic travesty if we don't land the best of the best
every year.
The problem is that we ALREADY LANDED CHRIS PAUL
and had him taken away by an unprecedented, unethical, and questionably legal decision
I'm frustrated with that too.
I just don’t like the entitled attitude that seems to have been going around.
Well, if I work my ass off to buy a new car and give up a lot in return to finally afford it...
…but then have it taken away from me that very day by my megalomaniacal turd of a boss for no conceivably fair reason, I’m sure as f*ck gonna feel like I’m “entitled” to that car.
by Derek Fisher's Intangibles on Dec 10, 2011 11:10 PM PST up reply actions
+1
Great parallel
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 11:15 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
What's all this 'we' crap
mr. blazers fan?
by LAMojo on Dec 10, 2011 10:54 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
definitely don't sound like a laker fan
your choice of words sounds like what I might hear on blazers edge or golden state of mind
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You don't share OUR fandom either.
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well, of course you can be a fan of both, but i dont know that its appropriate to group yourself with those of us that are solely loyal to our team.
by tiger child on Dec 10, 2011 10:56 PM PST up reply actions
i didnt look at your profile.
im looking at the way your wording things about the people who are posting here during a really confusing time where we had the opportunity to land great players.
by tiger child on Dec 10, 2011 10:59 PM PST up reply actions
you're not your. sorry.
anyway, i dont want to cause trouble. at all. you just kind of came and called out a lot of people for no real reason. they’re here and venting because this is where we come to be with our own.
by tiger child on Dec 10, 2011 11:00 PM PST up reply actions
any judgment that's been made was based off the words you've written here
read your original post again, and tell me it doesn’t seem a bit insulting?
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My judgement
is based off calling “us” entitled. I don’t think making the best offer, and getting it vetoed because of conflicting interest by the league is right. And additionally, I don’t think that Paul should be a Laker right now because “Wahhhh, Lakers deserves to win!” I think he should be a Laker because if the team was not run by the NBA-Who have conflicting interests-then he would be a Laker. And I think we are the only team to ever have a trade like this rejected for this reason, and may be the only team to ever have this scenario happen. Does it make me entitled that I think that’s wrong?
I also hope,
I haven’t been coddled too hard that I expect the same trades to go through for us that would go through for any other team, and that the Cavs owner does not determine the future of my favorite franchise.
Well, reading my original post, I can see where you're coming from.
Look, I’m as frustrated as anyone by the events of the last few days. Sorry about the ticked off wording.
It's not the wording
so much as the entire concept and your lame attempt to pass yourself off as a Laker fan.
Then I apologize for it.
I just like taking an objective viewpoint on things and I realize that might come off as condescending.
I don't think calling us entitled and coddled counts as objective.
It’s cool if you want to apologize, just actually do it, instead of saying how being objective can come off as rude. That’s not an apology, that’s a dismissal of criticism.
I'l freely add,
that you being a Blazers fan and calling us entitled and coddled didn’t seem like a coincidence to me. I’ve met some really awesome Blazers fans, and then I’ve met some that love to discount any success the Lakers have had, and generalize the fanbase. You just so happen to match the latter half from the way you spoke.
There are some really awesome Blazers fans. I know some.
And then there’s Henry Abbott.
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you are trying to make your perspective seem valid by claiming to be a lakers fan
when you have never posted on this blog before (and have 3000+ posts on blazers edge)
by LAMojo on Dec 10, 2011 10:58 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This blog is new, Blazersedge has been around for quite some time.
I don’t usually go to SB Nation for my Lakers stuff – at least until the last few days is all.
This blog is 2 1/2 years old. Fail.
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by SoCalGal on Dec 10, 2011 11:00 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Still new for an SB Nation blog.
Blazersedge has been around since before 07 so I’m comparing it against that.
Please don't.
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To claim that you don’t have any history because this blog is 2 years younger that a Blazers blog is ridiculous, your profile and behavior has many of the telltale signs of a troll
A Ravens fan on the wrong side of the country!!
by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 11:14 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
You first signed up to an SBNation blog in February '09
the first SS&R story was from April ‘09. Out of the 34 months you’ve been a member of an SBNation site, you could have been a member for 32 of them. It seems pretty confusing to me that those two months would prevent you from clicking a few buttons here-as opposed to the other blogs you’ve signed up for since then-for a team you are a fan of.
Wow, I come in here to vent my frustration, hoping to be among supportive Lakers fans.
And I’m met with outrageous accusations. This blog sucks. I’m going back to Laker Nation.
By Lakers Nation we should all read Blazersedge…
Now cue the crying, entitlement music for the “Laker fan” in a blazer uniform…
A Ravens fan on the wrong side of the country!!
by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 11:20 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
:(
Affectionately,
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NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 11:21 PM PST up reply actions
Your frustration about how "entitled" we are and how "we" get so many perks?
Yeah, okay. Thanks for joining to vent your frustrations.
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LOL at implying Lakers Nation is a better place to comment.
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We just didn't want to coddle you, and frankly you expecting otherwise smacks of entitlement.
by Derek Fisher's Intangibles on Dec 10, 2011 11:26 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
Well played sir
A Ravens fan on the wrong side of the country!!
by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 11:27 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
So true
MarkKriegel Mark Kriegel
David Stern couldn’t be screwing the Hornets any worse if he gave the GM job to Isiah Thomas
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 10:47 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
sadly very true
A Ravens fan on the wrong side of the country!!
by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 10:49 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
"Lakers Pull Out Of Chris Paul Trade"
I’m usually an advocate for pulling out, but I’m not sure it was the right move in this case.
by Derek Fisher's Intangibles on Dec 10, 2011 10:48 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
*cue rim shot sound effect*
A Ravens fan on the wrong side of the country!!
by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 10:50 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
We pulled out
only cuz stern wouldn’t accept any deals
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wojnarowski_lakers_out_of_paul_trade_talks_121011
by Revelationx91 on Dec 10, 2011 10:50 PM PST up reply actions
im an advocate for staying
long past the comfort level of everyone involved
by c.lobster on Dec 10, 2011 10:50 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I would rec this but every time I click rec on a post, it flags it instead.
by Derek Fisher's Intangibles on Dec 10, 2011 10:55 PM PST up reply actions
That's because you're clicking too quick.
Slow down and read first.
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I'm just bitter
that we’d have this trade exception already with the original Paul trade.
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how feasible is it to get dwight and jameer out of this?
can’t imagine dwight wanting to get lobs from dfish, no offense cap
but so can we i'd like to think.
bynum is still better than lopez.
can’t believe a week ago we were banking on dwight loving the lakers
the need for an above average point guard has escalated. i say move morris to start or give him heavy minutes. we need an electric shock and electrolytes.
he'll get the lobs from kobe
it’s like everyone forgot kobe existed and should be the primary reason dwight would even consider LA
thus far the world hasn't imploded yet. we just lost LO but got cash from it
we went out of the paul deal but we still have pau. so we’re basically intact.
now to make sense of this, i expect mitch to make sunday a resurrection sunday
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How is losing the 6th man of the year and our Bynum injury insurance policy for nothing "intact"?!?!?!
by ap3604 on Dec 10, 2011 10:52 PM PST up reply actions
wait till tomorrow
howard is in the works.
"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung
by LakersFoEva on Dec 10, 2011 10:53 PM PST up reply actions
let pau play center, smh
and who plays pf? caracter of course, smh
when my dad went to play a gig tonight, i'd told him on the phone that we were working on still getting chris paul.
now he’s going to call me when he gets home and i have to explain this to him? huh.
In 1996 the Lakers traded their starting center for some fucken kid out of high school!!!
I’m sure we have a plan
by Kobe_Bryant's_Scowl on Dec 10, 2011 10:52 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
^^^^^^^THIS IS AWESOME!!!!!!!
"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung
by LakersFoEva on Dec 10, 2011 10:53 PM PST up reply actions
Lower something something high school
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by ayeyoJERM on Dec 10, 2011 11:01 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Context
You have tons
What is the nature of your thoughts, gentlemen, when you say "fuddle duddle" or something like that?
It’s a done deal from what I’ve read
A Ravens fan on the wrong side of the country!!
by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 10:57 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Anyone think Deron is Laker next year?
I do especially if Lakers get Dwight, no chance Deron signs extension with NJ. He’s unrestricted next year. He’ll join Dwight in L.A.
Only to a team with cap space
We haven’t had cap space in years. The only way we get Deron Williams is if NJ agrees to a sign and trade
darn it, i'll trade every tpe in existence and pick for him now
if dwight is coming minutes later. what a turn around if we stole dwill and dwight the day we lost on paul and allegedly dwight.
btw, when you amnesty someone does that just eliminate their salary from the cap
b/c if that’s so, why doesn’t the front office just amnesty kobe and get a crapton of cap space? i’m pretty sure kobe wouldn’t mind too much (or i may be an idiot)
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If you amnesty Kobe,
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 11:00 PM PST up reply actions
Yup.
Affectionately,
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NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 11:01 PM PST up reply actions
You're an idiot.
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and i'm pretty sure he would be pissed
if he didn’t want the salary, he wouldn’t have signed for it in the first place
He still gets the money.
Amnesty is just for cap reasons.
Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 11:02 PM PST up reply actions
My understanding is that,
the amnesty is just for cap reasons. As in “said player’s contract” will not count towards your teams maximum salary cap. The player’s contract is still honored. He will then be put on the “amnesty market” where every team under the salary cap will be able to pick up his contract if they were to choose so. My understanding is that the team lowest under the salary cap will get first dibs, but whoever puts in the highest bid gets the player. The new team pays whatever they bid, and the old team pays the rest. Money is still being paid, it’s just it doesn’t count against the salary cap.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 11:05 PM PST up reply actions
Yup it's never going to happen.
Ever.
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NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 11:12 PM PST up reply actions
i wonder why the lakers didnt send at least 2 of the rookies over ha its not like they would have got time anyway with kobe cp3 and howard on the team
So Lakers either get Dwight Howard or this summer is a complete failure no?
by ap3604 on Dec 10, 2011 11:05 PM PST reply actions
some mavs fan thinks the lakers are helping mavs land paul
so the mavs are helping lakers get dwight…smh
It has been confirmed that Stern did in fact Veto the 2nd trade
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lol wtf
wow we really sent odom for scraps
by Revelationx91 on Dec 10, 2011 11:09 PM PST up reply actions
Fuck
we’re going to get torn up by LO in at least one game against Dallas this year, aren’t we?
Chris Paul,
Kevin Durant, Blake Griffin, with LeBron as our sixth man
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
by douchiedude on Dec 10, 2011 11:16 PM PST up reply actions
Mitch is a fuckng genius, he knows what he is doing; his plan seems hazy right now, but I'm 110% sure that he
will work his magic to the Lakers benefit
I'm Biwinning, I win here and I win there!
Pun intended.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
by douchiedude on Dec 10, 2011 11:15 PM PST up reply actions
That's about 60% more sure than I am
and I commend you for it.
Im just curious as to whether or not the Lakers could have kept odom, flipped gasol and bynum for howard and turk and then used ammesty on turk.
Could this have worked?
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No because you can only amnesty players that were on the roster prior to the lockout
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 11:21 PM PST up reply actions
Acquiring a player nd then using amnesty on them is a no-no then?
shucks
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Does anybody else feel like we could've stuck with what we had?
I was fine with the way the team was… Obviously not fine with the way last season ended, but I felt like we could make a run with these guys…
I look in the mirror, and I don't like what I see. So I bought a new one.
We had no way of knowing that our move for CP3 (and subsequent moves)
would be so catastrophically cock-blocked
I think the Lakers would have been best served
adding the best possible point guard, and any other veterans interested in coming aboard, then called it an off-season
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well if we had kept lamar and added chauncey biillups, it wouldve been nice
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by chaucer on Dec 10, 2011 11:19 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I did.
Unfortunately, the FO didn’t feel the same way.
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Dec 10, 2011 11:19 PM PST up reply actions
honestly...Odom had to go.
He didn’t take these events well, and he wouldn’t have been a problem for the team this season as a result. Pau took it more as a professional, so I hope he stays, but if D12 is coming, he won’t. Go Lakers.
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Bingo. Now we've got an unnecessary mess with no Lamar Odom and a possibly bitter Pau Gasol.
The ONLY way any of this is worth anything is if we get Howard and keep Pau.
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by Rich Langford on Dec 10, 2011 11:16 PM PST up reply actions
let's just do this trade and move on (i know, easier said than done)
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=chkcrj5
Slava.
http://www.twitter.com/hobojarpen
If we had to move Pau and Bynum we could get something like this back
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6pe37be
It wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world. We upgrade at PG, get a another great shooter to space the floor with Kapono, and a servicable backup for Kobe. Then we fill in the front court with a few MLE guys. I hope we can just swing Bynum and pieces for D12 straight up though.
maybe just maybe the fates are sparing us from something terrible should we have landed paul or kept our 3 bigs
not sour graping here but gotta be optimistic
why are there so many negative nancy's?
I understand we got monumentally cock blocked by Stern, but how is that our fault? You guys have to stop seeing the glass half empty and see it half full, if we end up with Dwight and Pau in the frontcourt everyone is gonna switch their tune. Obviously we are going for Dwight so please stop acting like we just traded Lamar and are gonna roll with this team.
if we end up with dwight
now is the uncertainly and it’s difficult to get hopes up only to have them killed (we learned that lesson 2 days ago)
Please don’t act like we got Dwight in our pocket…
And I’m quite fine with what we have, thank you..
I look in the mirror, and I don't like what I see. So I bought a new one.
Your fine with trading Odom for nothing?
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 11:22 PM PST up reply actions
Of course I'm pissed about that
But if there weren’t any moves to be made anymore, I’d be okay with that…
I look in the mirror, and I don't like what I see. So I bought a new one.
If its anything but D12, i don't think the trade was a good one
And I would not be ok
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 11:24 PM PST up reply actions
Obviously we might not get Dwight, which makes the Lamar trade a kick in the balls for nothing...
by ap3604 on Dec 10, 2011 11:21 PM PST up reply actions
Of course, but dude had to be traded regardless
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 11:23 PM PST up reply actions
You got a point Q.Calloway... guy was crying on the radio
But for nothing? That’s f***ing B.S.
by ap3604 on Dec 10, 2011 11:26 PM PST up reply actions
He didn't have to be traded today
and he could have gotten us something much better, at least first round draft picks from a lottery team, at least draft picks that the other team doesn’t has a 6-year window to give us the weakest draft they can get
What lottery team would want Lamar seriously?
If you are rebuilding you don’t want a 31 yo who doesn’t want to play for your team to begin with
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 11:29 PM PST up reply actions
Reports are Mitch didn't even call teams to find out
NO was interested in LO, we know that at least, and if they are, they probably aren’t the only ones.
Also, who would have guessed the Rockets would be willing to give up so much for Gasol.
Thats Gasol
The Hornets were getting Playoff team back thats pretty much why they were willing to take him, obviously that wasnt to Stern’s liking
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 11:37 PM PST up reply actions
This is such a surreal event
The commissioner of a league vetoed a good trade that was made by the management of a team that was believed to be autonomous and acting in good faith to every single member of management in the league and league officials. Stern is such a fucking idiot, he did what Donaghy did but ramped that up 10000 times worse for the league.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 11:41 PM PST up reply actions
Because if we end up having to give up bynum AND gasol for dwight, none of this is worth it
Coach has to meet us halfway
agreed
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 11:24 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I dont understand how the Odom trade helps in getting Dwight
The trade exception doesnt allow us to get Hedo, and if we wanted picks to send to Orlando, we could have gotten an infinitely better deal from most other teams.
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by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 11:22 PM PST up reply actions
Most other teams probably didn't want Odom, who knows
Maybe the trade exception is to fill out wholes in the roster later on? IDK The thing is just try to stay positive instead of acting like were the 2007 knicks
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 11:24 PM PST up reply actions
Well the only way for a trade exception was a team with cap space, besides Dallas who is a contender
Why would a rebuilding team need an want lamar? Also maybe Mitch did LO a favor?
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 11:28 PM PST up reply actions
seriously... What are we? Celtic fans?
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Seriously, Chris Paul should just state publicly that he will refuse to play another game as a Hornet
It will force Stern’s hand on the trade, and I don’t think it will make Paul look bad or lower his value, since Stern has done something no commissioner in any major American sports has done.
Paul would still get paid during his mini-strike (see: Marbury)
This is nuts.
When I first heard about this trade I was not at all happy about moving Odom and Gasol for Paul. But now that Stern denied the trade for BR I am furious. “The Lakers are getting screwed!” I keep telling myself. But in reality, I think they just saved themselves from a very questionable trade, and have put themselves in a great position to make a better move to get Howard.
They charged me 15 dollars. That's how much it costs to only have 20 dollars.
but what of the report that dwight prefers nets?
"They’re a very special group of men. Cherish them, you will not see their like again."
Dwights' #1 preference means nothing because even as his #2 choice, he would resign with us
same situation was with Chris Paul
then we flip bynum or pau for what they're worth now that the value is high
we have been forced to a rebuilding position and in a shortened season, might be worth the gamble
Yeah, we still got Kobe and Pau
I know we won’t be considered favourites for a championship, but “rebuilding” is pushing it.
by Derek Fisher's Intangibles on Dec 10, 2011 11:37 PM PST up reply actions
Orl still has the final say where he goes and Dwight was ok with NJ or LA, he was preferring NJ because it looked like we were getting Paul and using up most if our trade pieces to do it.
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 11:24 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Plus he's bff with DWill
..howya like that Brook trout?
One Raider/Laker Nation...under a groove.
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by Zen and Tonic on Dec 10, 2011 11:32 PM PST up reply actions
half glass full. and if howard goes for bynum, we'd feel less worried about injuries
not to mention we’d have a starting center for the first 5 games
i didn't like the trade at first either,
though the idea of getting howard & paul for our 3 bigs was at least somewhat appeasing
Yes, but that seemed to be an increasingly unrealastic pipe dream
once DH said he wanted to go to Jersey. LA didn’t have the pieces to compete with that after the trade for Paul
They charged me 15 dollars. That's how much it costs to only have 20 dollars.
by Rich Langford on Dec 10, 2011 11:30 PM PST up reply actions
my brain's fried and i'm tired of thinking through all these scenarios. i'm going to watch a bbc documentary on north korea and call it a night.
Slava.
http://www.twitter.com/hobojarpen
You mean the country that Stern's brother runs?
by neokoros on Dec 10, 2011 11:22 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Yup,
Stern Jong-Il.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
by douchiedude on Dec 10, 2011 11:22 PM PST up reply actions
i feel better about pulling out of paul trade only because it opens the door to a dwight trade. and he shouldve been the number one priority all along. i hope we somehow keep gasol rather than send him and bynum to orlando.
laker should send bynum, ebanks, caracter, 2 first round picks.
"They’re a very special group of men. Cherish them, you will not see their like again."
I think our pursuit of Howard is a smokescreen
I think Mitch is still on the lookout for a PG, just not CP3 at the moment. Could be Baron, who has not been amnestied yet I believe- Cavs might be trying to trade him.
Other possibilities- cap space for Billups, trade for Jameer Nelson.
How would a smokescreen for D12 be beneficial for a trade with the Cavs
And i doubt Gilbert trades with us unless we give him Gasol/Bynum/Kobe for Baron
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 11:26 PM PST up reply actions
I just think he wants everyone to think we are going after Howard
When we really arent. I dont know what his deal is, because right now, that Odom move looks awfully dumb.
Oh no he’d trade with us, because to do so would cost us MORE money, which is what we are supposed to do, spend spend, but do it badly so we won’t kick the tar out if the small market teams. Don’t you get how Taft is what the new CBA was meant to do? sarcasm
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 11:29 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
No one really knows
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Only 9 mill?
Mike_Bresnahan Mike Bresnahan
Unreal turn of events tonight. Lakers also get trade exception of $8.9 million in Odom deal. Must keep that in mind going forward.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 11:24 PM PST reply actions
hmmmm maybe nelson and kupchak are on to something
darn speculations
This isn't by accident
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Once you guys get Turk try making him fill out the fours pot xD LOL (bad times)
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If I put in an official request for an overflow thread will CA Clark veto it?
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When I firstthat the Lakers traded Odom to Dallas actually expected the last have of the sentence to say in exchange for Dirk
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If Mitch pulled that off, I would personally pay for a statue for him in front of Staples
It would be an incredibly small one, made of ice probably, but dammit he would have one!
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 11:32 PM PST up reply actions
I was going to read all of this
but Stern vetoed my decision
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
I go away for a few hours and Odom is traded to the Mavs?
The fuck? fajslkfjsdjfoidsoflsdjfjhsdfklaofodsfksdjfoeworqphwu[fkdjk;kfnsk fpm
I mean before we got rid of Odom did Mitch at least revisit the 6’ers and see if the Iggy thing still had legs. I guess we’ll never know.
Trading for Iggy would have made it financially impossible to get Howard and highly wouldn’t have give us any ammo to compete with the Nets offer of Lopez and two 1st rd picks, without giving more depth and length
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 11:35 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Wouldn't it be funny if CP3 ended up in a Clippers uni?
At least to me it would be comical
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I thought he didn’t guarantee he wouldn’t sign an extension for the Clippers and the Warriors. Weird…
by puresilence on Dec 10, 2011 11:34 PM PST up reply actions
If at the beginning of this, if the Clippers got Paul and the Lakers got Howard, I would be 100% esctatic
After the Stern fiasco, I’ll be so angry if Paul ends up anywhere else
Then prepare to be frustrated on the Paul side if things, he’s not going anywhere
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 11:36 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
going back to the hou trade proposal. i am more tempted to see how this lineup does:
morris (yes the rookie)/tpe point guard/fisher
kobe/martin/goudelocke
mwp/barnes/ebanks/walton
scola/turkoglu/patterson
d12/mle or vet center /caracter
not as star-studded but is solid up front and deep down (if not deepest) at the bench.
was scola simply overperforming on a losing team? maybe dwight getting much attention keeps his numbers as high
Lets here, at least the Lakers don have to pay tyson chandler 14 million dollars a year for the next four yea
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56 mil for 4 yrs
eddy curry 2.0 (Im overexaggerating but still)
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I get your point,
but that’s an unfair comparison. Tyson will show up and work hard.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
by douchiedude on Dec 10, 2011 11:44 PM PST up reply actions
He will make a big impact on that team defensively, but he is certainly no worth that much dugh; especially considering that he is injury prone
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anthony melo and stoudemire get paid more than lebron wade and bosh
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such is the nature when the guys don't collude to come together
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
lol
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Why would we trade Odom just for the trade exemption???
Maybe their gonna do two separate trades like Blue was saying, can they even do that? Will Stern veto it? Will he force us to trade Gasol and Bynum for Jason Kidd? Idk know anymore
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 11:36 PM PST reply actions
The Mavericks just swept the Lakers in the playoffs...
So we send them our 6th man to make them even stronger (and us weaker) with the HOPE that Dwight trade somehow works out?
Nice… real nice Mitch =/
by ap3604 on Dec 10, 2011 11:37 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
dats what i thought too
unless there’s really something the sources don’t know about..
by eddieyou1018 on Dec 10, 2011 11:37 PM PST up reply actions
well i'd wait to criticize mitch here. there are a lot of factors and we dont know most of them.
mitch isnt a dude who makes sloppy and emotional decisions. he’s too smart for that.
by tiger child on Dec 10, 2011 11:37 PM PST up reply actions
IMO Odom doesnt make up for the mavs losing chandler's defensive presence
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He has to have a move, Mitch has been around the block
Trained by Jerry West, made the Gasol deal happen, and made the CP3 deal happen (twice) , I cannot believe he would do something like that for no other reason than the D12 is a lock or plan B is something else.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 11:38 PM PST up reply actions
Me in 1996- "why the fuck did we trade Divac for a frakin high school guard?"
trust the system. Lets just wait and see.
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@Mike_Bresnahan
Trade exceptions are hard to explain, but Lakers can obtain a player from another team w/o trading anything if he makes $8.9 mill or less.
and
Lakers have $5.2 mill exception from Sasha trade but can’t combine.
I’m trying to make all these numbers make sense in my head, but it’s not happening.
A hotdog at the game beats roast beef at the Ritz -- Humphrey Bogart
5.2 = 8.9=14.1 million dollars; lets say the Knicks decided to ship eddy curry to LA, La would be able to take in that Salary cap
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The TE allows the Lakers to trade fir a player whose salary is under the trade exception’s number ($8.9 and $5 million from Sasha) without giving anything up in return. Essentially we are able take on salary without giving up players
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by Christopher Atwood on Dec 10, 2011 11:40 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Wouldn't it be awesome if our line up started with Kobe, Pau, Bynum, and MWP
we would be conten…..wait!
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
always
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
You know
our team is pretty fucking good, aren’t they?
Thank you. that was the whole point
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
i think this is that thing most people tend to look past...
we had a championship capable team even if we made no trades.
we blew it last year, but it wasnt for a lack of ability contained in our roster. we just sucked when we really werent supposed to.
by tiger child on Dec 10, 2011 11:40 PM PST up reply actions
No, we had a championship-quality core
but it needed the bolts replaced to make sure it could contain everything cohesively
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
The only reason you revamp your team is to get CP3 or dwight and CP3 is gone
but we just need to change the role players not the starters.
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
If you ran your own company would you keep a quality employee who was bitter or had
showed a lack of professionalism?
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
Odmshowed up late for training camp, had a talk with Mitch and stormed out
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No one said he stormed out, just that he left instead of staying to practice.
Soon, reports will have him wielding an AK-47 in Mitch’s office yelling, “COME AT ME, BRO!”
You're only a success for the moment that you complete a successful act. - Tex Winter
Tweetness
Andrei Kirilenko doesn't scare anyone anymore.
Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."
I read that he stormed out after having a discussion but I cannot possibly say what actually happened as I was not there
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None of the Lakers media reported him storming out on Twitter. Not a single one, and I follow them all.
Besides, Lamar is too mellow a dude to storm anywhere. He only gets mad at himself, not other people.
You're only a success for the moment that you complete a successful act. - Tex Winter
Tweetness
no, but thats not the point we're making
it that odom was a major part of what made that group great. his presence was massive on and off the court. losing him isnt like losing a role player, its losing one of your key performers.
by tiger child on Dec 10, 2011 11:46 PM PST up reply actions
Yup and the fact that we traded him for nothing
If were gonna trade him, we need some return and I have no idea what Mitch is gonna pull out of his sleeve but I cannot believe for the sake of my sanity that he would do this to just get rid of him… especially to the Mavs……….
unless LO is part of a secret deal where he is sent to sabotage them which is why Mitch had him in his office alone, makes perfect sense! And of course the Saboteur with Khloe and Lamar will be on E next Summer.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 11:51 PM PST up reply actions
tough one...
If I had brought in another employee to take his job and told him that the new guy was a better fit for our company and then fired him…….and then went back later and said OOPS, the other guy can’t come work here, congratulations you have your job back…..for now.
I think he might have a legitimate gripe. Especially if he was a pretty good employee up to that point.
Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."
i mean the business thing
doesn’t really work because NBA players are guaranteed things others aren’t
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Totally agree.. but gripe doesn't equal to stop doing your job.
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
true.
Especially when you get paid millions of dollars.
Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."
whats up with the drinks tonight?
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
me...Just sippin on gin an juice..
And by gin I mean rum.
And by juice I mean Coke.
I guess I could have just said Rum and Coke. What an ass.
Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."
if the howard trade goes to naught, we can also try to flip tpe with say mwp for iguodala
and since pau seems to be in the right state of mind, we have:
morris/fisher
kobe/tpe sg/goudelocke
iggy/barnes/ebanks/walton
pau/mle pf (harrington?)/caracter
bynum/vet big
not too bad with more youth and athleticism on the guard positions
Losing my mind,
going to bed. Will resume griping and speculating tomorrow.
The worst part is that this has affected the entire league, the aftermath of this may be brutal
KBergCBS Ken Berger
Update on CP3 debacle: Hornets’ coaches, front office in “collective shock,” source says
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 11:43 PM PST reply actions
Eh. He was done for. Bro looked broken after he found out we were trying to trade him.
No sense in keeping him.
Uh... how about trading him to a team for something of actual value instead of a draft pick 6 years from now?
by ap3604 on Dec 10, 2011 11:47 PM PST up reply actions
Yup. You're right on that I guess.
Unless the Lakers think that draft picks are more valuable but who knows what they have planned. Doubt they made that decision without having any sort of plan.
umm
so, yeah . . . we lost him because of the trade debacle
Then we get just get reasonable role players.
And a decent point guard. We don’t have to have superstars join our team.
As per the article from that tweet…
“Everyone is scared” to deal with the Hornets about Paul now, a person plugged into the discussions said early Sunday.
Wonder what the union will do…
by puresilence on Dec 10, 2011 11:48 PM PST up reply actions
I heard Luke Waton was going to retire, any truth to this??
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that curly haird bastard will never leave. The Lakers should just retire his jersey
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Because there seems to be a lot of confusion about trade exceptions...
This is my first time commenting, but there’s been so much misinformation and confusion here I felt I should step in and help.
The ONLY thing a trade exception can be used for is to match a SINGLE player whose salary is less than or equal to the exception. For example, the Mavs used their trade exception from the Chandler deal to absorb Odom without sending anything back. So we can use that exception for any player making up to $8.9 million without sending back anything besides the exception and picks. Anyone making over that, we cannot use the exception for. The exception CANNOT be packaged with a smaller-salary player to make up the difference for a larger-salary player. It CAN be included in a trade with other players involved, or even with another trade exception (although they can’t be combined), I think. So we could use one trade exception for a player making under 8.9 mil, and another for a player making under ~5 mil, but we can’t combine them for a player making 13 mil. We can’t add the 5 mil exception to a player making 5 mil to take back a 10 mil a year player, only a 5 and another 5. Hope this clears things up.
I think we already have a trade lined up for someone involving the $8.9 million exception, as was reported after the CP3 deal, and that’s why we still went through with moving Odom for the exception. Gotta believe that Mitch is positioning the Lakers to pick up Dwight, but right now I don’t see how it gets done without doing something like Bynum/Gasol for Jameer/Hedo/Dwight. Bynum alone doesn’t strike me as enough ammo, nor would it make sense to drop out of the Hornets trade unless Gasol is still on the move.
thanks for this btw
shows mitch is walking a very fine line here.
btw, doing this trade, do we still need to include lamar's tpe?
so basically we’re doing a bynum/gasol/lamar for howard/turk/nelson deal???
After running it through the trade machine, don't think so
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7g6tjhz
I think that Mitch has a handshake deal in place for someone else (no clue who) who fits in the $8.9M exception. Likely set up prior to the Hornets trade, since it would have left us seriously shorthanded otherwise. Once he decided to pull out of that, he moved Lamar anyway so he could pull off that trade. That’s the only explanation I can come up with that makes any sense, at least.
So we can get Jameer with just Pau/Bynum
That means Mitch probably has a PF in mind. Anyone believe it’s Scola?
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 11:53 PM PST up reply actions
Scola would fit, but
I don’t see any reason the Rockets would give him up for nothing. If you’re looking for likely candidates, I’d say try to figure out guys making $8.9M or less, probably signed to long-term deals, who haven’t necessarily been performing up to their contract, or else are on a team that’s looking to rebuild and thus shed salary/add picks.
They need to shed salary
Thats why they were giving up so much for Pau. They want Nene.
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 11:59 PM PST up reply actions
Valid point
But I don’t think they really want to ink Nene without Pau in tow as well. Adding Nene to that roster and taking out Scola doesn’t leave them in a much different position than they already have, except with more money committed to a player who’s not at all proven capable of being the number 1 guy on a truly contending team.
Exactly what I'm thinking
Only guys I can come up who would fit the PG/PF need the Lakers need are Scola, Jameer Nelson, Paul Millsap, Charlie Villanueva, Michael Beasley, and Darko.
"They should go into a box and one--put the box on Kobe and the one on everyone else" - Jeff Van Gundy
by Mister Larry on Dec 11, 2011 12:07 AM PST up reply actions
Jazz aren't gonna give up Millsap for nothing
He has serious value around the league, and he has a very reasonable contract. Same deal for Scola. Agree on the rest though, as my list below should indicate.
I figured as much
But they have Jefferson, Kanter, Okur, and Favors, three of whom have huge potential at the F/C position. I don’t know.
"They should go into a box and one--put the box on Kobe and the one on everyone else" - Jeff Van Gundy
by Mister Larry on Dec 11, 2011 12:13 AM PST up reply actions
I think they'll trade Millsap and/or AlJeff
Just think they’ll be looking for more coming back than just a trade exception and end-of-round pick for either one. Probably more along the lines of young talent on the wing.
After digging through rosters a bit, I've come up with a couple possibilities
Anderson Varejao: Personally hate this guy, but he fits in the exception, and the Cavs are in full rebuild mode. Would add some front-court depth.
Charlie Villanueva: Fits in the exception, clearly Detroit wants to part ways at this point. Might just amnesty him, though.
Drew Gooden: See Charlie V., pretty much.
Marvin Williams: Don’t like the fit so much for us but could probably be had.
Tyrus Thomas: The most exciting name so far, Bobcats always seem to be looking to give away players to shed salary.
Andray Blatche: Blechhh.
Michael Beasley: Sorta like Tyrus Thomas, with more baggage.
That’s just with a cursory scan through league rosters, but it’s these sorts of guys we would need the exception for, and could feasibly get with it. Remember the team sending him out is looking just for cap relief and maybe a pick.
Varejao would be fine
same with Tyrus Thomas, but no to the rest
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
another possibility, one that I wouldn't want: andre miller
"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec
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Lakers had offered Lamar Odom to teams with salary cap space, one GM says. “He wanted out and they really wanted to reduce the tax bill.”
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
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If theres a reason that you want to break up a team for... its to reduce your tax bill =/
by ap3604 on Dec 10, 2011 11:49 PM PST up reply actions
HELLS TO THE YEAH
I mean just ask Rob Sarver
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by Bkj on Dec 10, 2011 11:50 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah we'd have to have a lamar tribute post when all the dust settles
but for now, enjoy the ride
Look at the source.
It’s from another GM. I seriously doubt Mitch called up GM’s and was like “We want to trade Lamar so we can go after Dwight.” Not a huge selling point for other teams.
by 82 games of pain! on Dec 10, 2011 11:52 PM PST up reply actions
i've been drinking for the last hour, and it hasn't helped.
I’m pretty sure I’m going to wake up tomorrow with a headache absolute faith in Mitch, but right now, I don’t know what I think.
A hotdog at the game beats roast beef at the Ritz -- Humphrey Bogart
LOL
I’ve had some beers, but its time to steal my friends hard shit
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 11:57 PM PST up reply actions
my neighbors are having a party
and are presently doing karaoke to like, Ethel Merman songs. This night has gotten so surreal I might need to go to bed just to get away from it.
A hotdog at the game beats roast beef at the Ritz -- Humphrey Bogart
I got no problem with this
the chemistry necessary to be on a bball team is very important. If he couldn’t do it after this, then they were right in letting him go and getting a TE and picks for him.
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
After the Stern block
And Lamar’s reaction to it, this doesn’t surprise me… Basically collateral damage from the blocked trade…
I look in the mirror, and I don't like what I see. So I bought a new one.
I fuckin love this team
No reason to say, “poor lamar” He wanted out. Its crazy to think that other teams shiver at the though of their six man of the year wants to be traded and what do the Lakers do? Trade him to the team that just swept them. I fuckin love the balls on this team.
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When life throws lemon, you make lemonade. But when Stern tosses grenades at you, what are you supposed to do?
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by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 10, 2011 11:51 PM PST up reply actions
Catch the grenaaaade....
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
Lamar Odom - "Half Swiss-Army knife, half Pez-dispenser" Meriones
Find a basketball reason to counter his assult
What is the nature of your thoughts, gentlemen, when you say "fuddle duddle" or something like that?
A famous man once said
Alright, I’ve been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don’t make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don’t want your damn lemons! What am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life’s manager! Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons! Do you know who I am? I’m the man who’s gonna burn your house down! With the lemons! I’m gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!
I feel we should burn Sterns house down
win a fucken title
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
this sucks
for basketball reasons
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"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
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"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Didn't the Lakers just start a 3 BILLION $$$ TV deal? If so then you salary dump Odom purely for profits???
by ap3604 on Dec 10, 2011 11:56 PM PST reply actions
Ok I'm tired of this
Send Pau and Drew to O-town for D12/Jameer/ and Turk then get Sasha’s long lost brother Scola with LO’s trade exception. DO IT MITCH!
hmmmm....
pg – nelson/morris/fisher
sg – kobe/sasha tpe/goudelocke
sf – mwp/barnes/ebanks/kapono/walton (please retire)
pf – scola/turk/caracter
c- d12/mle center
we’d have to trade mwp/walton for something or else suffocate at sf
do that for a 6th man and we might end up somewhere.
Well we could always amnesty Ron if need be
also don’t mind Blake, trade machine wont work unless a player is going back but in real life this works w/o us sending anything:
Boom! Birdman!
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 11, 2011 12:05 AM PST up reply actions
IM bout to go to bed now. Hopefully by Monday morning we will have some clarification
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Basically this is what happened with the Lakers' trade submission and Stern's response.
You're only a success for the moment that you complete a successful act. - Tex Winter
Tweetness
by SoCalGal on Dec 10, 2011 11:58 PM PST reply actions 6 recs
Actually it was a two word answer
Basketball Reasons.
The PuertoRican Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 11, 2011 12:00 AM PST up reply actions
this image
is photographic proof that the middle finger is actually sign-language for ‘basketball reasons’.
A hotdog at the game beats roast beef at the Ritz -- Humphrey Bogart
did he really reject the 2nd offer?
haven’t really seen any tweets from credible sources that suggest it happened
Thus far
it seems like it. Saw it from Berger that he did
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
ok
woj says it on his article
In his desire to keep the All-Star point guard on the roster to maximize the league’s selling price of the team to potential owners, Stern has shot down two deals to send Paul to the Lakers. Now, teams are leery of entering into trade talks for Paul with the Hornets basketball executives, and this could collectively cripple the franchise’s ability to get maximum value for Paul.
Am I the only one picturing Stern as Mr Burns saying
eeeeeexcellent!!
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
i tend to respond to most comments with two word answers
usually “oh dear” or “oh my”
A new Mike Brown era is about to begin.
i don't know about you guys
but the entire “basketball reasons” thing is kinda getting annoying
Lakers fan since the first grade.
werd
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
annoyed_guy
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
I don't even know who this is, but its only news ive seen in awile, and its not bad
EricPincus Eric Pincus
I hear Orlando likes Blake – so Blake/Walton for Hedo? walton’s 1-year and blake a reasonably paid backup p/g
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 11, 2011 12:02 AM PST reply actions
yes, include blake!
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by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 11, 2011 12:03 AM PST up reply actions
It would be funny if they meant "We like Blake Griffin" and end up with Steve Blake.
“WTF, who is this guy? We didn’t want him. We wanted to half-black kid with the red hair.”
You're only a success for the moment that you complete a successful act. - Tex Winter
Tweetness
Godforbid this should happen as I would cry if it did; Dwigh Howard chooses to go to NJ and the Lakers are stuck without Odom
I would cry my eyeballs out and I’m not even a Lakers fan
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I'd say there's at least a 50% chance of this happening...
by ap3604 on Dec 11, 2011 12:03 AM PST up reply actions
There is a chance it happens
but LO was going to be gone whether we looked to get Dwight or not. He wanted to leave, the Lakers placated him.
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
to play center for the mavs...yikes
with butler out, he might be their starting sf too. let’s not think as if the mavs got a heist here. they are as need as we are and at least we know who they replaced butler/chandler/barea with…vince/lamar/some new york guard.
Yeah I know but they should at least get dwight outve this "travesty", i mean theyve been screwed over enough already
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I mean, Pau/Bynum are still available
plus other players to throw in as well.
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
The lamar trade is definetely not looking good
Right now but I think everybody needs to let the dust settle. Let’s all wait until the roster is finalized before jumping off the ledge. No one knows jack squat about what Mitch is doing except Mitch.
by Ador08 on Dec 11, 2011 12:03 AM PST via mobile reply actions
If we had kept Odom we could have simply traded Pau + Bynum for D12 and still had a great PF/C combo in Howard + Odom...
Now that we threw him away for nothing though? =/
by ap3604 on Dec 11, 2011 12:04 AM PST up reply actions
@lakernation
Update: Sources told ESPN The Magazine’s Chris Broussard that the Magic will ask for both Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol for Howard.
Slava.
http://www.twitter.com/hobojarpen
See my comment above... if we had kept Odom we would have been fine to do this but now? Ugh...
by ap3604 on Dec 11, 2011 12:05 AM PST up reply actions
Well...
In this deal we still would have that giant trade exception which we could use to go after a decent power forward. Not that I like the idea of throwing everything out the window. But still…
by 82 games of pain! on Dec 11, 2011 12:08 AM PST up reply actions
We couldn't have kept Odom after the NO trade fell through
He wanted to leave
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 11, 2011 12:08 AM PST up reply actions
neither does brooke lopez.
Bynum > Lopez & Bynum > Losing DH to free agency.
by Ador08 on Dec 11, 2011 12:11 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Orlando’s GM: We will give you Howard if you give us….(gets abruptly cut off by Mitch)
Mitch: I’LL TAKE IT!!
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
then this pau/bynum for howard/turk/nelson deal is sounding credible by the minute
so as long as we have the lamar tpe…
getting excited and nervous about this
DO IT!
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
i think it's standard procedure. didn't expect ORL to demand less. it's all about negotiating and chiseling away at their demands from this point forward.
Slava.
http://www.twitter.com/hobojarpen
hey the equation still kinda looks like: pau/bynum/lamar/picks for nelson/turkey/dwight/someone we could get for 8.9 million
could be more balanced than what people think.
grrrr
This was said yesterday
either way if Jameer is in this deal you have to give it a serious look
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 11, 2011 12:09 AM PST up reply actions
I would tell the Magic to go to HELL
Ill give u Drew, but Pau??
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Holy photon
I looked at the At The Bar thread, and I thought today was a quiet evening for SSR.
A new Mike Brown era is about to begin.
nope
been like this for three straight days mane
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
it is
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
been busy with finals the past two weeks
haven’t been paying attention to the NBA at all
why would he sign with New York? Won’t he come off the bench after Amare?
A new Mike Brown era is about to begin.
No, Amare is a PF
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
What a shame.
His contributions will be wasted. New York’s not winning anything with D’Antoni running the show.
A new Mike Brown era is about to begin.
If only amare and anthony played defense and rebounded, that team woud be pretty fucking beastly
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We'll see if their tune changes
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Maybe Chandler will average 20 boards and 10 blocks per game
and Melo and STAT would get 30 apiece
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lol
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
hey the equation still kinda looks like: pau/bynum/lamar/picks for nelson/turkey/dwight/someone we could get for 8.9 million
could be more balanced than what people think….i hope
grrrr
That would be pretty nice if it works out...
Wonder who we could pick up w/ the 9 million trade exception though?
by ap3604 on Dec 11, 2011 12:13 AM PST up reply actions
they trying to make us the Magic of the West???
No way
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Why is everyone forgetting Kobe in all of this lmao
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 11, 2011 12:14 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
can't stay away huh? lol
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
who?
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
but with kobe bryant
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Magic of the west WITH Kobe...
Thats a big difference =P
by ap3604 on Dec 11, 2011 12:14 AM PST up reply actions
again depends on who we get with 8.9million and who fill the roster
now if we could wrangle a big starting type piece like iguodala (i know him again) with others left we not only have ushered the new era but have remained competitive.
let’s see what mitch does.
and at the end of it all, kobe is a laker still
yup it's almost night time here in the philippines
shout out to those who kept night shift the past hours.
I guarantee that if /when the Lakers get Howard we are all going to say "cp3 who?"
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
And if we don't
I guarantee y’all gonna be pissed
I look in the mirror, and I don't like what I see. So I bought a new one.
I will only be pissed at Stern
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Everybody's pissed at Stern
Well, except Dan Gilbert
I look in the mirror, and I don't like what I see. So I bought a new one.
Exactly
I see no reason to exclude myself.
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Why? This Lakers team has already beat a Dwight Howard lead team in the Finals.
Fuck what Howard does or what team he is on. We wiped our ass with him before.
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
That post on Lakers nation is the only place im seeing that Orl is asking for both
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 11, 2011 12:13 AM PST reply actions
should we do it if its Pau and Bynum they want?
"If somebody had their life on the line, and they’ve got their options on who they want to save their life — tell me who you’re going to pick? You’re going to look at the stats first?" - Kobe Bryant
If we get Nelson in the deal and use the two trade exceptions to get a backup center(ex birdman) and 2 guard(ex. Salmons)
I dont see why not
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 11, 2011 12:15 AM PST up reply actions
fuck yeah!!
But the Lakers should secure a PF or PG
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
Anyone else worried about the huge upheaval these trades will cause to our lineup 2 weeks before the season starts? And with a new coach none the less
by 82 games of pain! on Dec 11, 2011 12:14 AM PST reply actions
Uh yeah
That’s why I wanted the Lakers to stay the course…
I look in the mirror, and I don't like what I see. So I bought a new one.
No
if there’s any time to do an upheaval, it’s when a changing of the guard is already taking place.
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
lol
Roll and Die. Pun?
Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."
As long as Kobe is on this team....Hell NO!
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
Maybe... there is a specific player that makes less than $8.9 million that his team wants to dump for cap relief
And maybe this specific player is the exact last piece that Orlando wants in their trade
Just throwing that out there
There are a good number of suggestions higher in the thread
If you scroll up a bit, under my big block of text post, I listed out a few guys who fit, as did a couple of other posters.
thanks....gettin slo.
Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."
sweet!
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
You guys think if someone kills stern and their defense is
“basketball reasons”, that they will be acquitted?
Guys what if the magics ask for BOTH Pau and Bynum?
Because we dont have lamar anymore to include in the trade with bynum… Then we would lose lamar for nothing
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