More CP3 Trade News (Updated)
by wondahbap on Dec 10, 2011 2:26 PM PST
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PrintSports Illustrated's Chris Mannix is tweeting that it's the Rockets sweetening the deal for the Hornets. They must really want Pau (to go with Nene) bad.
"As SI reported last night, Rockets sweetening the @CP3 deal with young players. Unclear who is involved" yet.
Click the link to read CBS' Ken Berger's report on the details of the revised proposed trade between the Lakers, Hornets, and Rockets.
"Houston would still get Pau Gasol from the Lakers in the three-team swap, while the Rockets would send Luis Scola and Kevin Martin to the Hornets, as in the original version that was killed by commissioner David Stern in his role as final decision-maker on major personnel moves for the league-owned Hornets. It wasn't immediately clear how the Hornets were satisfying the league directive to acquire young players and valuable draft picks in the deal, but one minor tweak that New Orleans GM Dell Demps was trying to add was the inclusion of second-year forward Devin Ebanks from the Lakers, sources said."
"Now appears Lakers will keep Devin Ebanks, and that additional young talent to New Orleans will be coming from the Rockets, sources confirm."
Throughout the Lockout, Ken Berger proved to be as reliable as they come. Read away. Comment here.
UPDATE (5:25 PM): Woj...
The New Orleans Hornets have delivered a reconstructed framework of the three-team blockbuster trade sending Chris Paul trade to the Los Angeles Lakers into the NBA office for approval, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
In the latest details available to Yahoo! Sports, sources say that New Orleans would send the Lakers Paul, and possibly two Hornets free agents - center Jason Smith and Marcus Banks - would be sent to the Lakers in sign-and-trade agreements.
The Rockets would send Kevin Martin, Luis Scola, a 2012 first-round pick and possibly young players or additional picks to the Hornets.
The Lakers would send Lamar Odom to the Hornets, Pau Gasol to the Rockets and league sources say that Los Angeles was pursuing a first-round pick to send to the Hornets.
"It's in David Stern's hands now," one source said. "He'll decide on the trade."
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Amick and Aldridge have been on the ball as well.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
agreed. either way, even if you miss out on one or the other, they all have been RTing or quoting one another.
Slava.
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sorry if i'm behind, but has there been any kind of "official" confirmation on odom being included in the trade?
For some reason I keep not seeing his name mentioned…
All I see in the comments is that Odom is still confirmed to go to NO
But then again, not much as far as actual official blurbs about it
Is that Basketball Reasonable enough?
LOL "official"
"I promise you, we’re going to build a dictating, dominating, attacking defense. I’ve said it a million times. It’s not a slight on our offense, but we’re not going to win any world championship until we have that." - A.J. Smith
i think "popular consensus" is that he's still included, though there have been some rumors saying otherwise
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Perhaps Gilbert's concern about the Lakers saving money was the crux?
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which would explain okafor's possible inclusion in the deal
Slava.
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If Okafur is included, then Lamar is definitely included.
I would love a Pau for Paul and Okafur trade.
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yep. on a side note, i was kind of happy to find out we might not have to trade away ebanks.
Slava.
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I really wish we would just not trade Odom
Hornets keep a true center in Okafor to play alongside Scola, we keep Odom to sweeten D12 deal, AND Dan Gilbert doesn’t whine about us saving 40 million dollars.
"They should go into a box and one--put the box on Kobe and the one on everyone else" - Jeff Van Gundy
by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
i think ALL of us would like that except.. it's not gonna happen hahaha
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It's arguably better for New Orleans as well
Scola is more of a scoring forward who can play outside the post, and Okafor is the big center who rebounds like a monster. Plus, Okafor is younger than Odom, which is something NO wants anyways.
If NO were to take both Scola and Odom, one of them would have to backup the other, unless Odom can play SF, which wasn’t really effective last year when Phil played Odom-Gasol-Bynum frontcourt.
"They should go into a box and one--put the box on Kobe and the one on everyone else" - Jeff Van Gundy
by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed... keeping Odom would make this trade totally okay with me.
Right now I’m still not sure how I feel about it. I mean I’m excited as hell, but maaaan it feels wrong…
People are saying yes, people are saying no
but I haven’t been able to find anything concrete (just omission of his name in the article, but that may be b/c they assume he’s still in? idk)
For Thine is
Life is
For Thine is the
I think its more assuming that he is still part of the trade
Which makes the most sense, since if we keep Odom and Bynum, D12 might as well immediately hop on a plane to LAL
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
Wait
surely the Lakers will be getting someone, anyone, to go along with Paul?
No Okafor coming. From Berger:
There were no indications that Andrew Bynum would be included in the new iteration of the trade, or that Emeka Okafor and the $41 million left on his contract would be going to the Lakers.
http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/33780584
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Some saying it's Okafor.... others saying Ariza
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
Lamar Odom - "Half Swiss-Army knife, half Pez-dispenser" Meriones
Hm
I’d be down for Okafor. Perfect backup to Bynum, if that’s the way it plays. Still, it’s gonna leave a pretty big gap at the 4 spot.
Ariza… eh. I thought we never should have ‘swapped’ him for Artest (yep, still can’t write MWP)… but he picked up some pretty bad habits in Houston/NOLA (like trying to be a scorer).
Okafor would play at the 4 spot
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by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 10, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
Artest was the better pickup still imo
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"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
He's a free agent. Probably out of Lakers' price range.
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If Jermaine Oneal is waived by NO, would any team that signs him have to pay his contract?
Or can they just sign him like a FA
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
No, only a team that claims him off waivers would have to do so.
But no one really wants to do that, so he’ll become a FA.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
I am not sure I'd pick up JO for a local league I have in town.
Just walking in the gym is a risk of him getting hurt.
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I think it would have to be through a sign and trade since he's an UFA
And i think that would have to be a different deal then the CP3 deal, but im not sure.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
Are there even RFA's in the NBA?
"I promise you, we’re going to build a dictating, dominating, attacking defense. I’ve said it a million times. It’s not a slight on our offense, but we’re not going to win any world championship until we have that." - A.J. Smith
Yes there are.
Marc Gasol is one of them off the top of my head.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
AMMO is available!
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/sam_amick/11/29/morrison/index.html
Is that Basketball Reasonable enough?
DROP ALL TRADES
THIS IS OUR TOP PRIORITY
by Lakers1230 on Dec 10, 2011 6:13 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
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by Czheck on Dec 10, 2011 6:15 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
kobe couldnt do it without ammo
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I guess its better than letting him walk for them
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by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 2:37 PM PST reply actions
I'd imagine he would play much more at the wing, where he's been much more effective.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
i'm sure they'd find something via FA. in any case, rondo must be chomping at the bits waiting to dish out to all these shooters around him
Slava.
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Probably more upset that they're trying to trade him
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
obviously this should be taken with a chunk of salt, but by all reports, rondo was all smiles and hustle at practice yesterday
Slava.
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Haven't seen that report,
but I’m just assuming that a guy can’t look too far into the future when he might not be there is all :P General assumptions of course.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
I think Rondo is a professional to be honest
even if I don’t like him.
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
He said Ainge was up front with him about what was going on
and that’s why he’s not upset. He probably would’ve been otherwise
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
I can see that
like I said I don’t like him, BUT I respect him
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Jeff Green is a markedly average shooter
if that
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
lol at this point guys
We just need to stop talking about who is involved etc, until something semi official is announced. We’ve went over just about every possible trade
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nah. We have been deprived of basketball news for awhile.
We will speculate until our fingers fall off.
@JoshuaBRobbins
#Orlando #Magic GM Otis Smith tells @OrlandoSentinel that Dwight Howard has requested a trade: ht.ly/7Vl9D
It’s official.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
means our trade has went through
and D12 said he’s on his way too guys, don’t forget me!
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indeed sir
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
I'm always optimistic
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
Hope so lol
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OHHHH SNAP!
TO WHO?!?!?!
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
That's news?
"I promise you, we’re going to build a dictating, dominating, attacking defense. I’ve said it a million times. It’s not a slight on our offense, but we’re not going to win any world championship until we have that." - A.J. Smith
first that he's actually requested it
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
Huh, didn't know Kobe and Pujols were pals. Pretty cool now that Pujols is in Anaheim.
http://lakers.ocregister.com/2011/12/10/kobe-has-congratulated-baseball-buddy-pujols/67369/
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
explains why Pujols screwed St Louis!
/hide
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:P
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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
I prefer the Dodgers to the Angels too
Mainly because at least the Dodgers know where they’re located. “The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim”? Seriously? Make up your minds.
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by Td1984 on Dec 10, 2011 2:47 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Tis ok. We have KeMVP and the Minotaur (Kershaw).
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it makes me even sadder that we have arguably the best pitcher and the best position player...
…and our biggest FA signing was Aaron Harang. It’s alright, when Magic purchases the Dodgers, they’ll make a comeback in a huge way.
Slava.
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Stop complaining...my team's biggest acquisition was Pagan
and due to a budget cap, they must now decide between Fontenot or Keppinger. Sad times are sad.
Go Sharks!
Looking for sympathy as a Giants fan on an LA board?
Sad times are sad.
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oh shit cldpc is about to kill someone
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Nah, it's cool. Just amusing to think about.
At least he’s not an Angels fan. Seeing as how they don’t exist, it would have ripped a hole in the space-time continuum.
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/comes out of hiding.
Phew…and I was ripping on him for complaining about the Dodgers’ offseason…ours was even worse. At least you have matt fucking kemp.
Go Sharks!
haha, to be honest, you guys have won and been to more world series than we have in recent times. WE'RE PRACTICALLY TORTURED FRANCHISE!!11!!1!!!!1!!
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I do hate the "torture" meme the Giants fanbase has been using.
You want torture? Cal football. There.
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yep. even with the playoff ban, my trojans had one helluva season!
Slava.
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nah...I'm here as a lakers fan
otherwise, i’m a huge Sharks fan, and not too much into baseball, but I do occasionally follow the giants. Actually, now I’m in Georgia for college, so yeah.
Go Sharks!
Georgia eh?
lolLSU
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
ah okay
I’m the resident LSU fan, and cldpc hates me for that reason
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
I wanted to play a Big 12 team for our championship this year
But it will be nice for an SEC team to finally lose the BCS championship game.
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
oh hello there good sir
You’re in my neck of the woods.
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
can’t believe you didn’t go hard after Beltran.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
Dream teams don't work in baseball.
Hitters only hit 1/9th of the time, and pitchers pitch 1/5th of the time. Have a solid core, and surround it with above average players. There’s no way of knowing if the free agent crop for us this year is just somewhat bad or horribly bad, but picking up marquee free agents only rarely works.
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Okay so ... don't take this the wrong way
But as a regular here, some of the people who either haven’t been here in a long time or are brand new that have some some crazy shit just boggle my mind
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lol no you :)
AV you haven’t pulled anything so far out your ass that is unintelligible.
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
lol
Post by AV:
Magic coming out of retirement and going to make CP3 sit on the bench.
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We could throw him in the paint if we can't get a PF lol
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
hell I'm making Kareem come back
hasn’t he seen the commercials? Karl is coming back to pass him in points!
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Lets get D12, then we can trade D12 to for Malone!
Then we’ll trade CP3 to ESPN for Magic!!!!
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
I'm wondering what it will take to trade for the All-Portland team
Sam Bowie
Greg Oden
Brandon Roy
Bill Walton
Travis Outlaw
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Source: Knicks, Wolves both in strong pursuit of J.J. Barea, who feels “betrayed” that Mavs only offered 1 yr deal. Check Hang Time blog.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Guess Ainge is the old lady that collects cats while
Kahn is the old kook that collects dolls :P
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
I will quote Stephen Jackson again,
"Who won the championship again? I didn’t even watch the playoffs."
"Dallas sucks to me."
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Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
to be honest
if they only offered Barea 1 mil, then they did betray him
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
1 year
not 1 mil
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
ah lol thats a bit more understanding but even then
did he not earn more than 1 year?
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
but for reals... what's with NY and MIN lusting over undersized guards
Slava.
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meh. maybe kahn has a real plan for the future that we can't understand right now....
….HAHAHAHAH yeah right
Slava.
http://www.twitter.com/hobojarpen
you know in fantasy football
I have a friend who will go pick up every single quarterback he can worth a damn in hopes that people get injured. Sure enough he gets to trade at least 3-4 every league for great players and ends up at the top of the list.
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
Really?
QBs aren’t too hard to find in FFB. But I guess if he is picking all of them up they are lol
Bamboozled.
and I mean like the guys entire bench is qb's
so yeah you can get one but usually not a starter
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
normally there is an injury within the first 2-3 weeks of the year and he's able to pick up a good player.
He will also waiver one of his lower bye players to pick up someone comparable.
His numbers look like shit early, but about half the season on he has one of the best teams and just starts stomping everyone.
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
so, if i'm understanding correctly, what you're telling me is that timberwolves will eventually be love+rubio+dwill and 9 other guards?
Slava.
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Man too many emotions among players.
It’s business people. Although I do understand it lol
I feel for LO, but in the end it’s all business and the team doing whats best for the team.
Bamboozled.
I kinda understand Barea being mad, 1 year deal after playing signficant minutes
On a championship team. That would be like if we traded LO for Brook Lopez
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
They look for job security too
and to be insulted for a one year deal after you were the change of pace guard for a team and demolished several defenses, yeah that’s an insulting deal. Cuban trying to hedge bets for 2012 is all
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"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Kahn apparently has determined that Ricky Rubio by being over 6 feet tall is actually a SG
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Bibby to Knicks
Lol
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Good to see you guys doin well recently. All fears of Luck in the AFC East are gone.
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Yea it was bittersweet lol, who knows Pats might have to worry about RG3 now
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
Haha yea the fins seem to like those dual threat qbs
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*Formerly Huzaifa
"These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."
-Bill Belichick
We should honestly just give up on CP3 and D12
Mike Bibby and the New York Knicks are just gonna bulldoze through the league, no point in even trying.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
No wonder Chauncey is pissed
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Seriously shell shocked by this turn of events...
Kinda like a bad relationship that you know is going to end but you don’t want it to?
by ap3604 on Dec 10, 2011 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
Crazy stuff... congrats to the Lakers if they can actually pull off a 'Decision' type free agency
by ap3604 on Dec 10, 2011 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
without the douchey
ESPN special.
Although I think our Big 3 deserves something cooler sounding than Heat Index
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Let's not talk about a Big 3 until we actually get one.
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I consider it a done deal
"I promise you, we’re going to build a dictating, dominating, attacking defense. I’ve said it a million times. It’s not a slight on our offense, but we’re not going to win any world championship until we have that." - A.J. Smith
Hell we're still having problems with CP let alone D12
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
I couldn't figure out how to do the sarcasm font sorry you missed it
"I promise you, we’re going to build a dictating, dominating, attacking defense. I’ve said it a million times. It’s not a slight on our offense, but we’re not going to win any world championship until we have that." - A.J. Smith
for my heart's sake, i always assume the worst.
at the same time, i don’t believe we would pursue one without the other.
Slava.
http://www.twitter.com/hobojarpen
OPTIMISM SIR!
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
Umm
the Magic just gave up any leverage by letting the cat out of the bag for sure. You don’t admit someone’s going to leave and you’re trying to trade them. They’ll get nothing but lowball offers still for a while
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
I felt like it was a forgone conclusion he was leaving Orl
He would have stayed if they could have gotten anybody, but they had no pieces to trade with
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
the thing is
it can be forgone that he was leaving, but not that they were going to trade him
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Team up with Deron in NJ/Brooklyn? Or CP3 and Kobe in LA?
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cuban is digging himself a hole. so many guards lined up, no big now and barea bidding bye bye
i certainly hope dwight said LAL then bam stern is looking at two deals on his doormat on the same day i hope.
boston and ny moves are incremental improvements at best. not worried if we get cp3 and d12 and yeah the pieces hou are willing to give for pau are baffling and tempting should the league block us again. that’s a starting guard and pf already there and more coming.
i really feel brown shouldn't be telling much (though he gave his playbook) already
about a third of those in practice might be gone soon
training camp has yet to begin laker nation!
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Dwight Howard has requested that the Orlando Magic trade him to the New Jersey Nets, league sources tell Y! Sports.
"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec
Can we do a BA Baracas move on Dwight?
Give him some milk with sleeping pills in it and send him on a plane to LA?
Is that Basketball Reasonable enough?
by Laserface on Dec 10, 2011 3:08 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
fuck! and thats by Woj. Not good.
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
FUCK
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Dwight Howard has requested that the Orlando Magic trade him to the New Jersey Nets, league sources tell Y! Sports.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 3:04 PM PST reply actions
WTF
"They should go into a box and one--put the box on Kobe and the one on everyone else" - Jeff Van Gundy
by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 3:04 PM PST up reply actions
I'm sure he'll change his mind once CP3 is a Laker
"I promise you, we’re going to build a dictating, dominating, attacking defense. I’ve said it a million times. It’s not a slight on our offense, but we’re not going to win any world championship until we have that." - A.J. Smith
GET AT THAT TAMPERING CHARGE OTIS.
"They should go into a box and one--put the box on Kobe and the one on everyone else" - Jeff Van Gundy
by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
Everyone relax
If we offer Bynum, the magic have shown they prefer him to Brook, and Dwight won’t say no to LA. Also an important note: if the Nets directly contacted Dwight, and Orl decides to pursue it, Nets get hit with lost picks iirc. It could be a factor
yep
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Nice Lu lyrics on your sig.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
thank you good sir
whoever is quoted in your sig is amazing with logic
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
I know right,
possibly better than Lupe himself.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
I'm sorry but this is just hilarious.
The nets? What do they have that Dwight desires? If he goes there, I will still not consider the nets a threat. Seems like a cruel joke to me
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius
Woj just said his trade request was to the Nets
wtf
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
lawdy Lord if we get cp3 and d12 by today or tomorrow, imagine the turn around of events
we’d be laughing at those who laughed at us and drubbing them on court too.
If D12 is going to the NETS, then Mitch
Call off this deal!
Otis Smith come on, Brook Lopez or Bynum????
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 3:06 PM PST reply actions
More like: D12, come on, NJ/Deron or LA/CP3/Kobe?
cal. lakers. dodgers. packers. chelsea.
vols. rangers. galaxy.
Shiiiiiet
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Orlando GM Otis Smith told @JoshuaBRobbins today that Howard has asked for a trade. Sources tell Y! Sports that request is for the Nets.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 3:06 PM PST reply actions
well we can flip bynum to minny or indy so not sure how much nets feel good about themselves
or otis smith
or we can keep him with cp3
Who would we be looking to get for Bynum from Minny or Indy?
I would love KLove, but it isn’t happening.
cal. lakers. dodgers. packers. chelsea.
vols. rangers. galaxy.
Their picks aren't high once they get Dwight
they can’t retroactively suck
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
opulence. he has it.
(someone tell dwight rubles aren’t worth anything)
Roll Shaw
Follow @Geniespool
You should. In Russian. Sounds more legit.
cal. lakers. dodgers. packers. chelsea.
vols. rangers. galaxy.
eyy dwight, tavarish,
ni eede tooda. Lootche eete v Los Angeles, gdye tvoy druk Chris Paul ee Kobe Bryant. Ee pomney, ruski dengy nee chee vo nee znachit
Roll Shaw
Follow @Geniespool
baby giraffes
F*** Fairness. F*** Happy Endings. F*** Bad PR. F*** Losing. F*** Guarding 3-point Shooters. These are the tenets of the Black Mamba.
- C.A. Clark (well, except for the last one .. I added that)
Lmao well there is a reason Dwight wants out of Orlando, OTIS SMITH
If that man takes Brook Fropez and two mid 1st rounders….
C'mon Mitch
If we can’t get Dwight, don’t make this deal.
Christian Ponder: Super Bowl 50 MVP for the Minnesota Vikings
For Basketball Reasons
Woj
Lakers had been searching for deal in past day to obtain a first-round pick to send New Orleans as part of Chris Paul package, sources say.
22 seconds ago
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
Hmm.
You gotta believe that Otis will look at DAL, NJ and LAL’s packages and realize Bynum > Lopez as centerpiece. And eventually if Otis decides that he might want to trade D12 to LA, is Howard really going to complain or threaten to NOT sign long term?
Slava.
http://www.twitter.com/hobojarpen
That's his preference. We don't know.
I heard somewhere that he doesn’t want to be Shaq’s carbon copy. Same career path, same nickname, same dominance… he wants to break away from that chain.
If he didn't want to be known as New Shaq, should've have gone with a different nickname than Superman.
Or just work out.
cal. lakers. dodgers. packers. chelsea.
vols. rangers. galaxy.
it can't be just that. i mean, he'd be playing with CP3 in LA
Slava.
http://www.twitter.com/hobojarpen
true. but i think the point i brought up is something to think about
Slava.
http://www.twitter.com/hobojarpen
Sullinger > Lopez imo
so yes you’re right
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
What is with the massive Brook Lopez hate on this forum?
You guys are really underselling Lopez. I understand that he’s not the best rebounder or defender, but he’s still a nice young center with legitimate scoring ability.
Lopez sucks?
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
I'm not David Stern
As a pretty much first and only option on a team he averages 20?
WIth a PG such as Deron Williams, his stats don’t go up?
6-8 rebounds per game as a PF? Seriously?
In my mind he’s soft, much softer than people ever called Gasol. He’s just not good.
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
First and only option?...
It’s no easy feat to average 20 points in the NBA. Especially for a big man that doesn’t bring the ball up and and try to create his own shot. I agree that he had a down year in the rebounding department last year, but in the years previous, he had over 8 RPG. Also, he has yet to miss a game in his career. His stats (sans rebounding) have gone up each year. He’s good.
8.7 was his high
his average is 7.6. He’s a 7 footer and the main scoring option on his team. He’s not a 20/10 player, and never will be. He’s also a horrible defender and rebounder.
I’d take Odom over Lopez any day of the week
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
well, all bets would be off if NJ & ORL found a third team to trade with.
Slava.
http://www.twitter.com/hobojarpen
rebounding has gone down
as the offensive load has increased
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
He's a terrible rebounder and piss poor defender.
His rebound rate was worse than practically every big in the league and a good chunk of wings. He doesn’t move well on defense and is worthless guarding the P&R. Decent offensively, but that doesn’t excuse how awful he is on the other end.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
The most important aspects of big men
are rebounding and defending the rim. He does neither. Congrats for being the Nick Young of centers
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Thats disrespectful... to Nick Young
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 3:48 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Only if he says that he won't sign an extension with the Lakers.
Where he’s wanted to go since forever.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
If he specifically requested a trade to a certain city,
Orlando is far more likely to trade him there.
Not if they don't like the trade, Ex: CP3 in NY
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
But New York had absolutely nothing to trade to the the Hornets for CP3.
The Nets actually have some pieces that could be moved.
that's what i'm hoping. at this point, i would still think that all three teams in the DAL-LAL-NJ trio is still in the D12 sweepstakes
Slava.
http://www.twitter.com/hobojarpen
Not really. Smith doesn't care where Howard ends up.
Howard only affects the process insofar as teams will withhold assets if they don’t get an assurance from him that he’ll sign an extension. Lakers will offer Bynum regardless, so it’s a moot point.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
trading to a conference rival matters more than you think
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
but Orlando will be in rebuilding mode, so they might send him to NJ
"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec
Unless they plan to rebuild for 6+ years
They don’t want to have to face him when they want to go into contention.
---
Revenge is ice cream.
We should remember
That 3 days ago Chris paul was requesting a trade to NY.
Prokhorov: Dwight, comrade
If you don’t request the Nets, all these beautiful white russian women will go to Brook Lopez and Deron Williams, and not to you. And I will have your nut sack on my mantle. Please request responsibly.
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
usually i enjoy being able to harness the power of the russian mafia when needed, but...
Roll Shaw
Follow @Geniespool
we got our own mafia
Kobe, call the Italians!
"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec
do russian women have to be white for Dwight to be interested?
JUST KIDDING!!!!!
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
lol I just have never seen a non white russian woman
was going for the whole way a russian would talk too
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
lol
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Don't know why ...but I imagined that in Niko Bellic's accent
"El Hombre es esclavo de lo que dice y Amo de lo que calla"
by Jonny 4 F1ng3rs on Dec 10, 2011 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
Either Howard wants his "own" team
Or this is smokescreen…
Maybe he wants to try again with a new team
and an all-world caliber PG in Dwills
by Revelationx91 on Dec 10, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
CP3 would feed him more balls, Dwill needs his points
"I promise you, we’re going to build a dictating, dominating, attacking defense. I’ve said it a million times. It’s not a slight on our offense, but we’re not going to win any world championship until we have that." - A.J. Smith
yeah...
I’m really thinking that this is “smokescreen” until the Lakers-Hornets trade gets done so that Lakers don’t get even more scrutiny and the league doesn’t block the CP3 trade
by Revelationx91 on Dec 10, 2011 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
This is plausible
Perhaps even likely
Christian Ponder: Super Bowl 50 MVP for the Minnesota Vikings
For Basketball Reasons
Having your own team
doesn’t mean it has to be built poorly
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Maybe Dwight thinks the CP3 trade is dead
doubt he follows Twitter like we do
"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec
He's on Twitter
and constantly bombarded with hate messages
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
does dwight really want to be "the man" so much?
smoke screen fodder
this
he’s already said how much he wanted to play with cp3 and with kobe, together so come on
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
He was already "the man"
YOU CAN BE THE MAN IN LA (in like 5 years) AND WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS AND PLAY FOR THE MOST STORIED FRANCHISE EVER!
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
well now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ij_rdMeNIQ
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
Maybe that's exactly what he wants to avoid
He wants to avoid being the Shaq copycat _
by Revelationx91 on Dec 10, 2011 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
Nope. Not in the deal
TV Journalist Chris Hanson is a cockblocker
by rocket8188 on Dec 10, 2011 4:04 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
reverse psychology...
Stern doesn’t want stars to choose where they go, so he’s “choosing” the Nets so they send him to the Lakers
"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec
Bucher on ESPNews
says the CP3 trade could end up being a 4 team trade, and may not be finished until monday.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 3:14 PM PST reply actions
yeah, is this about the first round pick?
just give them our two picks if we have them darn it
yes
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
they did
details are unknown
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
It came out earlier that they didn't submit it yet
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
They said it was submitted about noon ET
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
Who else would be on the Nets team if Dwight went there other than Deron
I can’t even name anyone else on there except the Kardashian guy
a part of me wants to keep bynum...
mike brown sounds genuinely excited about him
Follow me: @theshmoes.
at this point, i have no problem with that. maybe a smaller shakeup isn't that bad.
but what we could have had and still could have needs fighting for. cmon mitch.
time to do kobe diplomacy. cp3 get on a plane to orl now!
Honestly...a healthy Bynum might be better for this team
Bynum > Howard on offense
and Bynum can actually make his FTs….
by Revelationx91 on Dec 10, 2011 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
D-12 just averaged 23 points on 60% shooting last year...
by ap3604 on Dec 10, 2011 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
But Howard is better at everything else
And doesn’t have the injury history.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
how long have we been waiting for Bynum to do something
too long
by tombstoneblue on Dec 10, 2011 3:33 PM PST up reply actions
It's not easy to average 20+ points when you are the 3rd or even 4th option on the team...
"El Hombre es esclavo de lo que dice y Amo de lo que calla"
by Jonny 4 F1ng3rs on Dec 10, 2011 4:20 PM PST up reply actions
Look, I can't stand LeBron James, but he was expected to do more at the same age.
Why is it different for Andrew?
You're only a success for the moment that you complete a successful act. - Tex Winter
Tweetness
lol we def started Kwame over him
when he was 18 and he didn’t get the nod until we traded him lol
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
=(
i’m trying to optimistic guys
everyone knows that Howard is much much better lol
by Revelationx91 on Dec 10, 2011 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
NO
stop this ridiculous line of thinking people
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Maybe you should give them a reason to
instead of just saying “NO.” Bynum is a better post player and a better free-throw shooter than Dwight his. It is perfectly reasonable to be of the opinion that he is a better OFFENSIVE player than Dwight.
Who shoots worse from the field,
gets fouled less, and can’t even be conditioned enough to play 35+ min a game. Yeah, no he’s not better in any way except free throws
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Just freethrows?
I don’t know how you can deny that Bynum is more skilled in the post than Dwight. And of course he can be conditioned to play 35+. Obviously he can’t if he’s injured, but that’s another issue.
More fluid
does not mean more skilled. Howard has worked a mid-range bank shot into his repertoire and demolished the Hawks entire frontline and every other frontline all year. He knows better when to pass out of double teams and he’s more seasoned from either side. Drew has great footwork no doubt, but it’s not like he’s consistently shown he can play in the block without the benefit of a Kobe or Pau to keep doubles away. When he is doubled, he hasn’t been nearly as effective at getting the ball out of there
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
I think Bynum has suffered from the lack of spacing that plagued the Lakers last year,
like any big man would.
Ummm
he was less of a black hole this year than he was previously. So something must’ve gone right
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Yeah
he was actually able to play a season (more or less) without serious injury.
Umm, he started this season out for the usual number of games
the difference is it was at the beginning and not the end of season. Same amount of games, different time of season
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
evidence in favor
KevinDing
Bynum is just dominating. Coaches all erupted in applause at him skying for RH tip-dunk of too-high Fisher oop in traffic.
3 hours ago
"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec
Woj has been on point, but he's still the only media member saying it
Small amount of hope
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 3:16 PM PST reply actions
Well
lately, lots of crap has been flying around the league. It might be that Howard DID request a trade to the nets but it might have been “trade me to the nets OR the lakers”
the “source” might have only mentioned the nets – *shrugs
by Revelationx91 on Dec 10, 2011 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
Confirmed by Amick.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Dwight knows that if he requests a trade to LA then Stern will deny the CP3 trade again
so he’s faking this trade request to NJ and waiting to see what happens with CP3 before requesting a trade to LA. RIGHT!?!?!?!?
Dwight: "whatever you do, don't trade me to the Lakers!"
Stern: “I’ve had it with players dictating where they go, trade Dwight to the Lakers”
by 3eyes on Dec 10, 2011 3:20 PM PST reply actions 11 recs
Stern really is that stupid so
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
Yes he is, don't fool yourself into thinking he isn't
"I promise you, we’re going to build a dictating, dominating, attacking defense. I’ve said it a million times. It’s not a slight on our offense, but we’re not going to win any world championship until we have that." - A.J. Smith
oh man, this board is ready to erupt to say 5000 comments
cp3 and dwight in one day, please o please
then the next day we flip artest and walton plus picks for iguodala
oh my lawd stern gut punked
ewww no
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
cp3-kobe-iggy-turkey-howard?
brown would be jumping in excitement he’d be thin like spoelstra by end of camp
I'm not an iggy fan
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
Iggy is an incredible player
playing completely out of position as a franchise player
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
that may be why I'm not big on him
but I just am not a fan of watching him play where he is playing now
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
c'mon guys
we all know if D12 gets traded to the Lakers he’ll sign.
and if we have the best package, then it’s all good
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 3:22 PM PST reply actions
yeah
Mitch won’t shy away from a trade even if Dwight wants to go to Brooklyn.
A season here could win him over, plus we have a much better deal.
he has to sign an extension before Jan 1 to get the max contract
"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec
Call every LA rapper right now!!!!!!!
LakersNation Lakers Nation
I wonder if Jay-Z promised Dwight he would rap about him on his next album if he came to New Jersey.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 3:23 PM PST reply actions
Kendrick Lamar is cool and all, but
he doesn’t really rap about bball players.
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Dwight was probably pissed about Detox !
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
wouldnt you be
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
Just trade for Dwight Howard.
The CP3 trade has dragged along long enough. Stern is being a pain in the ass and dragging his feet. Why continue to negotiate when it seems Stern isn’t doing so in good faith? Stern is asking for the house, and now Ric Bucher is reporting that a fourth team needs to be added so the Hornets can get more picks. Its just not worth it while Howard is clearly available and ready to move on. Those picks are not going to miraculously appear because the fourth team won’t want the talent involved. Move on.
Why is Stern such a greedy ...
Hornets want EVEN MORE picks from the Lakers and Rockets? Does that make any sense? They’re already winning the whole damn trade.
"They should go into a box and one--put the box on Kobe and the one on everyone else" - Jeff Van Gundy
I think Stern want's to strip the roster Seattle Sonics style is why...
by ap3604 on Dec 10, 2011 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
Makes it easier to sell to a prospective buyer if there aren't dead weight long term contracts on the roster (okafor)...
by ap3604 on Dec 10, 2011 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
How about letting the Hornets leave New Orleans?
I guarantee you the Hornets will have a new owner before the season even starts if Stern allowed that, regardless of what contracts are on the team.
This process has gotten ridiculous. This never would have happened with any other non-league owned team.
"They should go into a box and one--put the box on Kobe and the one on everyone else" - Jeff Van Gundy
by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
Seattle stripped the roster down to nothing, and sold the team to a guy who moved them to Oklahoma City...
No reason not to think that the same is happening with the Hornets =)
by ap3604 on Dec 10, 2011 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
i feel bad for houston already. will cheer for that team
they’re such great trading partners in this round
seriously, at a certain point, mitch just needs to say, "F-you, it's not worth it"
and let CP3 walk in the summer, making the hornets even more worthless
Even Jared Dudley from the Suns knows!
RT @JaredDudley619: So I heard Dwight Howard ask to be Traded! I’m not shocked at all BUT to NETS! Why not Chicago or Lakers even Mavs?
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 3:24 PM PST reply actions
poor guy, he knows no one wants to play for robert sarver. doesnt even plug his own team
Follow me: @theshmoes.
Nah, KD and folks were recruiting battier and joking around with him about coming to OKC
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
True, I thought it might still count though
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
not only bottomless pockets
but the guy has been known to do many illegal things for his players. Guns, women, drugs, whatever you wanted, if you were his man you got it.
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
Dwight had a better team with Arenas and Hedo in Orlando lol
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
If Dirk + role players can win a championship... Surely Williams + Howard can =P
by ap3604 on Dec 10, 2011 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
depends on which role players
but i don’t think they get pass a hungry heat team. only a hungry cp3-kobe-d12 lineup can.
oh shoot, cmon dwight!
Nets vs Heat:
Dwight Howard vs Eddy Curry?
Yeah… surely they can’t get past the Heat ;-)
by ap3604 on Dec 10, 2011 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
Now that Howards is seemingly out of the picture...
Lakers should trade Bynum instead of Pau and get back Okafor, along with CP3
he's not out of the picture
until the deal is done
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id do the rockets trade and see how much they love pau.
then i’d flip lamar for iguodala in some way.
with a lineup of: dragic/fish/morris
kobe/martin/goudelocke
iggy/mwp/barnes/ebanks
scola/tpe pf/caracter
bynum/mle big
we’re good to go
I think Smith and Howard are playing this one close to the vest
if it comes out that D12 wants to go the Lakers, it might F up the CP3 trade.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 3:28 PM PST reply actions
Maintaining optimism. I'm sure at this point NJ is his "#1" choice, but I'm guessing DAL/LAL still remains on his short list of options
Still, if ORL & NJ found a third team to trade with, I think we can start kissing our shot at D12 goodbye at that point..
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by SoCalGal on Dec 10, 2011 3:28 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
He's afraid that you might find him and lock him up in your dungeon if he's in LA
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the Nets package is not very good
Otis has to think whats best for his team rather than what Dwight wants, so I wouldn’t get too caught up in this.
Nets are the "#1 spot"...
Dallas & the Lakers right behind. Out of those 3, we still give Orlando the better option back in a trade (unless Otis Smith thinks Lopez + picks is better than Bynum + whatever else the Lakers decide to throw in).
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IMO it shouldn't matter 1% to the Lakers what Dwights #1 pick would be
Because whether we are #1 or #2 on his list, he will resign with us either way if we trade for him. I mean it’s the same situation with Christ Paul and we know we are #2 on his list.
exactly
and the Lakers still can give Orlando more/ take one of their bad contracts more easily than Dallas, whose only asset is Dirk, & he ain’t getting traded; and the Nets, who can give up Brook Lopez vs. the Lakers giving up Bynum.
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well from the sound of it, they went back and it wasn't submitted yet (maybe when they first said submitted they asked Stern?)
and they wanted a first round pick from LA? So LA is looking for someone? I have no doubt if we can get a 1st round pick for them it’s a done deal
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not necesarily
odom and pau are unhappy b/c they want to stay…so if the trade doesn’t go through, chemistry between the players should be fine. Though, they may be more defiant towards management
dwight wants to see laker nation fight for him. well dwight, isn't this enough proof?
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.@CBSSports confirms that Dwight Howard requested trade to Nets. But a person involved in Howard chase cautions not to count out Lakers yet.
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by Ben R on Dec 10, 2011 3:32 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
this is exactly what i was counting on.
sure NJ was his “#1” choice, but i’m sure the short list including the lakers is still very much alive and well
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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
As much as i want D12, i know he wont come to Lakers
the reason being obvious, he does not want to be seen as Shaq 2.0 hence he would never come to LA blah!
Magic have some say in this, because D12 would sign an extension here
Bynum>>>>>>>>>>> Brook Lopez
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
i hope he does sign an extension here
wait a sec, we aren’t renting paul aren’t we?
he's wanted to come here forever
I don’t buy the Shaq 2.0 thing.
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Woj
Howard has a strong relationship with Deron Williams, and has also resisted following the same career path as Shaquille O’Neal, who left the Magic for the Lakers two decades ago.
yeah I'm not buying it
I do not buy that at all, I’m selling it
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i agree that his initial request to be traded to NJ says a lot, BUT
if he does end up getting traded to LA, is he really going to try to sabotage or reject a contract extension?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
@KBergCBS
.@CBSSports confirms that Dwight Howard requested trade to Nets. But a person involved in Howard chase cautions not to count out Lakers yet.
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from woj, i don't buy dwight's excuse
Los Angeles had long been a preferred choice of Howard’s, but sources say that several factors have pushed him toward the Nets over the Lakers. Howard has a strong relationship with Deron Williams, and has also resisted following the same career path as Shaquille O’Neal, who left the Magic for the Lakers two decades ago.
yeah I don't buy it either
He’s been flirting with this for years, talked about how much he idolized Shaq etc. Joked about Kobe finding him a real estate agent out here.
The not following Shaq’s path is bs.
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Why does dwight want to go to a packed eastern conference
he will spend the prime of his career getting wrecked by lebron, wade, carmelo, amare, the celtics, the bulls
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Hope
KBergCBS Ken Berger
The person familiar with Howard’s thinking said the All-Star center still views L.A. as the best fit for his off-court pursuits.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 3:34 PM PST reply actions
from Woj's article:
The Magic are still focused on a possible trade to the Lakers, sources said, for a package that would include Andrew Bynum. The Magic want to unload Hedo Turkoglu in any deal that includes Howard. The Nets, flush with salary cap space, would likely take Turkoglu into a deal.
Howard prefers to the Nets over the Lakers, but hasn’t ruled out the possibility that he would sign a long-term extension with L.A. should he be traded there.
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word
and Smith said he would be looking at every team for the best deal.
you know Mitch is waiting for that call.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 3:35 PM PST up reply actions
and that's the bottomline
why go for vodka when you can have the entire bar
in the event of another block
but i see much potential in a houston trade too.
That's what I'm saying.
Take that package! Our bench was awful last year!
by broncodude793 on Dec 10, 2011 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
cause chauncy went on a tirade this morning telling teams not to claim him...or else
BASKETBALL REASONS
Off secondary waivers. We're not under the cap, so we would only be able to get him after he becomes a FA.
And even then, there’s no guarantee that he would want to come here.
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LITTLE MORE HOPE
KBergCBS Ken Berger
Ultimately, Magic will determine where Howard is traded — but only to extent. Happier Howard is with trade, more assets Magic get.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 3:35 PM PST reply actions
still, i FEAR NJ & ORL finding a third team to trade with...
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For what though, what does either team have that entices another team to help them
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
they'll make him an offer
he can’t refuse
by mr. eggplant on Dec 10, 2011 6:01 PM PST up reply actions
The more likely Dwight is to sign an extension with the team,
the more they’d be willing to give up.
I'd do Bynum + 3 first rd pick (over a 6yr period due to regulation)
and figure out a way to take back Hedo’s contract for Howard.
The problem is the the Lakers will have to take on Turkoglu's contract,
so they need another large contract to give to the Magic to make the money work. That’s why I’m hoping Okafor is involved in the Paul trade.
Guess I'll be drinking tonight.
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NOT DONE
NOT DONE
LINK ONLY EXPLAINS SITUATION
by broncodude793 on Dec 10, 2011 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
that's old don't get me all excited for nothing like that
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according to the link
still needs approval
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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 3:42 PM PST up reply actions
no choice but to approve that
excited if we get more in return
Yea,
everyone needs to make sure to read the update.
by broncodude793 on Dec 10, 2011 3:45 PM PST up reply actions
most amazing thing is after all this mess, we're stuck with LO and pau
i think we’ve crossed the point of no return of sorts
LO and Pau are gone for the most part
Doubt the CP3 deal doesn’t go down unless LA backs out
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
To land Howard,
the biggest hurdle might be to figure out a way to absorb Hedo’s contract. I certainly cannot figure out how the Lakers will.
well it all depends on the cp3 trade :/
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see before it was easy
just bynum/gasol for hedo/d12
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
if we're trading away both odom & gasol
we’ll defnitely need to get something else back from it, whether it’s okafor, ariza, trade exception or what not.
If we trade Gasol/Bynum/Odom for just CP3
and get rid of who else we get then we have the room, even more so if Luke retires and we can amnesty Blake (9mill if both happen).
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
My bad i forgot to add "/D12"
But yea as long as we get rid of our 3 frontcourt players i believe we can absorb Hedo’s contract.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 3:55 PM PST up reply actions
we're already getting rid of odom/gasol in the cp3 trade
and bynum for the D12 trade.
or, if only gasol is used in the cp3 trade, then odom will be added to the D12 trade. the money all works out.
whats a reply button
I use an R :)
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they were just waiting for me to wake up to make the deal
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.....We can do this.... >.<
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by Hdg23 on Dec 10, 2011 3:52 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
lmao
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
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why does CP3 look like a constellation lol
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by El Capitan(Presidente) on Dec 10, 2011 4:32 PM PST up reply actions
I think stern will veto again
i have had a bad feeling all day
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i thought they resigned him hours before the news about west?
the guys at celtics blog were patting danny on the back for resigning green yesterday
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if they already have
Bass and now Green, there really isn’t much of a point in continuing with the trade
we don't even know the trade yet
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I can't see why he would.
The teams are trying very hard to give the Hornets young players and draft picks, just as he asked.
this is what im also feeling
#reversejinx
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why would we do this?
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I mean
Iggy can be a backup to Kobe
Goran is far from extreme pg usage
We lose our best pf for a good pf (but no gasol)
We lose our 6th man of the year for a worse pf
and we lose MWP just because we want to?
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Just the first idea that came to my head.
I now see it was a poor one.
by broncodude793 on Dec 10, 2011 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
thnx for the replies
although I think if we don’t use the amnesty this season, we can use it next season. So why not just do that for his contract.
btw there is a live blog with Yahoo sportwriters going on now.
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off topic: walton with the first team.
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http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=c8xsq33
PG: Fish/Morris/Goldy
SG: Kobe/K-Mart
SF: J-Smoove/LO
PF: Scola/LO
C: Pachulia/FA
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I like it!
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
I forgot the VERY BEST part of the CP3 trade...
I won’t have to see Gasols scruffy ass, cave man, homeless guy look anymore…
God I was tired of that =/
Who’s with me?
by ap3604 on Dec 10, 2011 4:03 PM PST reply actions
....
I like Gasol
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
I like both the 2 players we are giving up for this
granted its a business but those two are class acts and that is the hardest thing to replace no matter who we get.
I like his production but the look? Good lord...
Reminds me of those hipsters I see all the time =/
by ap3604 on Dec 10, 2011 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
Every championship team needs a hipster
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
Same with Sasha's hairstyle...
god it made me want to punch a baby in the face everytime I had to see it
by ap3604 on Dec 10, 2011 4:07 PM PST up reply actions
oh agreed
CP3 is an elite pg for the future we can win with now and build around for the next 10 years.
Same for D12, but center obviously
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Considering it might be Howard and Paul
You cant really get any better than that image wise and on court production
Da Bears....enuff said
Best trade every for the Magic
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=d44wfby
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especially if Luke retires immediately for them
and Blake remembers how to hit a 3 pointer
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Yea I know
SWAGbro and Blake would be upset about taking their talents to Disney World, but you know Orlando is jumping at the chance to sign them!
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
I figured the misspelled every instead of ever
was the give away for sarcasm :)
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3-way trade idea with HOU and ORL
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bud2bzr
Kobe move to the 3 spot.
"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec
wtf is that?
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new update on ESPN right now
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nothing worth hearing
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can a trade exception be used as part of a trade or
can it only be used standing alone?
I think it can be used as part of a trade, but not combined with another exception.
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ESPN reporting right now
is that it is submitted, and that we will not hear an answer tonight, and possibly not tomorrow since they were unable to add a 4th team to help. By end of business Monday we should know.
God I hope they are wrong.
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In that case I'm outta here
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so for all the rumors and prognosticating, we're right back where we thought we were in terms of what the new deal looked like
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they didn't realize details at all
said the deal was a lot like the original :/
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it was on ESPNews station
not on the web sorry
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
I love these trade scenarios...
but Gasol is a good guy and my heart goes out to him. Same with Odom. The team won’t be the same without them — hopefully better, but it’ll be bittersweet like when we “traded” Ariza.
i don't know what NO still wants
they’re wining this deal already.
and by the minute we lose dwight.
they want something Stern will approve
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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
yeah they already agreed on the older one
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it feels like none will. he wants bynum too? screw this.
might as well get dwight first then move to the hou trade.
lol yeah we were linking that one all last year
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am resigned that gasol and odom or at least odom is not donning a laker jersey after this mess
and yes am looking at stern
So debating going to sleep for a bit
and hoping there is something by time I come back
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Tried it twice already
Nothing
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"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius
If the CP3 trade actually goes through I wan't Dan Gilberts Cav's to be absolutely hummiliated when they play the Lakers...
50 point loss for the Cavs with CP3 going for 38 points and 22 assists =)
by ap3604 on Dec 10, 2011 4:20 PM PST reply actions
And then before the all-star break, where we lost to them... Lol
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@daldridgetnt
Told again within last 5 min that CP deal still being worked on, and is not yet submitted to NBA, as others have reported. Fluid situation.
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Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
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Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
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I say that's good
if it means we might hear a verdict sooner than reported.
i really hope the league office can do better than that
precious training time lost
if they really did submit the trade
there should be a decision now
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Same here.
But it’s taking the teams a very long time to come up with the deal. I think they’ll submit an offer tomorrow. And the league will review it all day (if the league offices are even open on Sunday).
i imagine courier's being sent with a packet that has the trade paperword
but each time, they send out an assassin who intercepts said package and brings it back so it can be edited.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 5:16 PM PST up reply actions
BTW didnt Chis Paul tear his ACL / MCL season before last?
His numbers seemed to go down from a couple of years ago…
by ap3604 on Dec 10, 2011 4:31 PM PST reply actions
his knee is fine
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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
Hrm...
“There are two menisci in each knee however Paul now only has one in his left knee, creating a partial bone-on-bone grinding situation in the knee. Paul may very well fully recover this year, and may not feel the effects for a few years.”
by ap3604 on Dec 10, 2011 4:36 PM PST up reply actions
That is just plain wrong.
He had PART of one meniscus removed. We have no idea how big of a piece they snipped out.
are we there yet?
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Wow, Indiana.
That was hell of a game.
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yes.
One of the best finishes I’ve seen.
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Ben R should be breaking down the offensive scheme with CP3 by now
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Why
Jason Richardson has reached agreement on a four year, $25M deal with the Orlando Magic, league source tells Y! Sports.
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Why????
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Jason Richardson has reached agreement on a four year, $25M deal with the Orlando Magic, league source tells Y! Sports.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 4:37 PM PST reply actions
Well, he wanted to go to the Cavs, but that plan didn't work out.
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by SoCalGal on Dec 10, 2011 4:41 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Jason Richardson has reached agreement on a four year, $25M deal with the Orlando Magic, league source tells Y! Sports.
ORL 2012: nelson-richardson-mwp-davis-bynum
hmmm, MIA, CHI, BOS and ATL shrug it off
That sounds alot better than their alternative
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
which is nelson-richardson-sf-davis-lopez
yeah, even PHILLY and NY laugh at this
yea
nelson-richardson-richardson-davis-lopez
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 4:41 PM PST up reply actions
It's a decent deal
the problem is that it’s stupid for specifically Orlando to re-sign him instead of trying to find others
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by BrittneyM on Dec 10, 2011 4:44 PM PST via mobile reply actions
my friend jake just came over and hated on the lakers
usually when that happens something good happens for lakers just saying
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by mr. eggplant on Dec 10, 2011 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
Best comedy show ever made imo
"El Hombre es esclavo de lo que dice y Amo de lo que calla"
by Jonny 4 F1ng3rs on Dec 10, 2011 6:07 PM PST up reply actions
Two and a Half Men
(Season 1-8) Not this season, it sucks. Not the same without Sheen.
Shows
Spartacus, Dexter(although been kind of lukewarm on this season), The Walking Dead, Grimm(kind of a different feel to it but I enjoy it), Person of Interest(A-Team, help the helpless show sorta), Psyche(can never go wrong with Guster and Sean), Big Bang Theory
Movies: Immortals was good, Been out for awhile but The Warrior was awesome, I enjoyed Real Steel with Hugh Jackman
Big fan of community,
but I’d argue Parks & Recreations is even better :)
Affectionately,
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 5:29 PM PST up reply actions
Get Hulu+ free for a month
and go ham on community
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
The Walking Dead, Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire...Breaking Bad is awesome
"El Hombre es esclavo de lo que dice y Amo de lo que calla"
by Jonny 4 F1ng3rs on Dec 10, 2011 5:53 PM PST up reply actions
*insert old person yelling about how nothing can ever top the Cosby's*
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Super 8 is all kinds of awesomeness
"El Hombre es esclavo de lo que dice y Amo de lo que calla"
by Jonny 4 F1ng3rs on Dec 10, 2011 6:08 PM PST up reply actions
@KevinDing
Kupchak worked very late last night and early this morning, but Lakers not necessarily expecting resolution on Chris Paul today.
THE POWER OF SHAW COMPELS YOU.. THE POWER OF SHAW COMPELS YOU.....
maybe we should include ATL in our deal with NO and HOU
four-team trade:
ATL gets Okafor (they need a true C to pair up with out-of-position Horford)
HOU gets Pau Gasol
NO gets LO, Martin, Scola, Caracter + picks
Lakers get CP3 and..(wait for it)..Josh Smith! DH12 would love that.
Didn’t he say he wanted to play alongside Smith?
by phKobe on Dec 10, 2011 4:50 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Shiiiiiet
KBergCBS Ken Berger
Nets will need third or fourth team to get Dwight, but source says “will not be a problem.”
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 4:51 PM PST reply actions
How can this happen If ORL
plans to file against them courting Howard before it was authorized?
that was somewhat shut down with howard's "agent" meeting with nets
if true howard meet with them, we all should cry foul
cant other teams complain about it though and that was the biggest reason
NJ was going after Nene?
Boston-NO deal for David West still on hold, sources say. Waiting on NBA. C’s rookies, JaJuan Johnson and E’Twan Moore discussed in deal.
BASKETBALL REASONS
let them drag on their own mud
i don’t think this affects the cp3 trade provided it looks like (ridiculous i know) the original one
Its def not because of lack of want
KevinDing KEVIN DING
Lakers absolutely want him. RT @ImJamesWhoAreU: @KevinDing are they being proactive in the Dwight Howard sweepstakes?
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 4:54 PM PST reply actions
From Woj's article on Yahoo
In the latest details available to Yahoo! Sports, sources say that New Orleans would send the Lakers Paul, and possibly two Hornets free agents – center Jason Smith and Marcus Banks – would be sent to the Lakers in sign-and-trade agreements.
The Rockets would send Kevin Martin, Luis Scola, a 2012 first-round pick and possibly young players or additional picks to the Hornets.
The Lakers would send Lamar Odom to the Hornets, Pau Gasol to the Rockets and league sources say that Los Angeles was pursuing a first-round pick to send to the Hornets.
Jason Smith and Marcus Banks….
"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung
I don’t know much about them. Thoughts?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 4:58 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
just a quick wikipedia search...
Jason Smith – decent backup c. an actual 7 footer. can play 10-15 min a night and get you a few rebounds and points. he hustles, but isnt the most athletic. not great on either side of the floor, but plays hard, and can hit free throws decently. (torn acl in left knee – 2008). been in league since 2008.
marcus banks – small pg. good defender. been in league since 2003. not a 3 point specialist at all. hopefully, he will be pieced with bynum for dwight, lol.
"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung
Im ready to let go of this honestly
Felt we gave up too much first time this was announced its just getting worse now.
Sounds like we’re still giving up the same
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 5:00 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
.,.... we didn't give up anything else
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 5:01 PM PST up reply actions
If we are looking for another pick to add to it
then we are giving up more …
Really a pick is where you draw the line.. how many picks actually end up being starters
Especially late 1st rounders?
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
I honestly always thought
we would be getting back Okafor or at least Ariza. Getting back no bigs (Jason Smith is pretty much) was a pretty awful thought to stomach.
"They should go into a box and one--put the box on Kobe and the one on everyone else" - Jeff Van Gundy
by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 5:14 PM PST up reply actions
The whole plan they've been pushing is D12
If we got Okafor, he wouldn’t have stayed and been shipped off somewhere, which would have been hard because of his contract.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 5:16 PM PST up reply actions
We keep Smith most likely
Since we have no depth, and maybe trade banks or waive him. Its about money. Okafor is making like 12 million dollars this year and his contract goes up to 14 in two years. Thats a big contract, and would’ve been very hard to make appealing for anyon.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 5:21 PM PST up reply actions
seriously, we should just stop this trade
why should we make stern happy?
let cp3 walk in the summer and NO lose even more value and see how stern likes it
Green and Smith
Sounds very ordinary.
Willie Green was a 2nd round pick for Philly 3 years ago. He is a 6’3 201lb SG who averaged 12 pts, 2.5 rbs, 1.3 asts, and .9 stls in his 13 starts last year. He can be a solid backup 2 for us, but it does look like he is very streaky. He can shoot the 3 which is a plus, when he is on he can explode for 20+ pts.
Jason Smith was a 1st rd pick(20) for Miami 3 years ago. He is a a true 7’0 240 lb C/PF who can shoot well out to 18 ft. He hasn’t really got alot of minutes so far, averaging about 15 mins/game. Not really a big shotblocker, not a real good rebounder, he just seems to be able to score and be a stopgap guy that will eat up some time.
Ugh...
Do not want. I’ve never even heard of Jason Smith
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius
So Woj says Howard wants to be traded to Nets and would sign 5 yr 109 mil contract. Does this mean lakers are out of the dwight sweepstakes?
"They’re a very special group of men. Cherish them, you will not see their like again."
by chaucer on Dec 10, 2011 5:07 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Same. I mean it only makes sense
Dwight always talks about wanting to win a ring so bad, why the hell would he go to a subpar team like the nets? I strongly doubt he loves D-Will that much
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius
This makes me wonder if we didnt go after the wrong guy first? Or does buss, mitch think we better off w paul and bynum than howard.and fisher/no pg? To me, its a big mans league. Im not sold on bynum. I wouldve preferred howard. Not good news from Wiloj, who is usually right.
"They’re a very special group of men. Cherish them, you will not see their like again."
by chaucer on Dec 10, 2011 5:10 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I hope so...
It all depends on if Bynum stays healthy
am hopeful that the drama has shown us what we can still get other than the two
the move with houston is worth considering heavily
the lamar for iggy/ellis moves before
come to think of it we could look like
ellis/fisher/morris
kobe/martin/goudelocke
mwp/barnes/ebanks/kapono
scola/patterson/tpe find/caracter
bynum/vet minimum
bottomline, we have alternatives. we are trading from a position of strength
Basketball unrelated:
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by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 10, 2011 5:17 PM PST reply actions
How about this trade?
http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/5943811
PG: Lowry/Fish
SG: Kobe/Lee
SF: Wright/MWP/Barnes
PF: Scola/FA
C: Bynum/FA
Slava.
http://www.twitter.com/hobojarpen
Over on Nets Daily
they are creaming their pants that Howard’s first choice is NJ, second is Dallas, third is LA. Apparently Woj confirmed this. I really don’t think it makes a difference. If Smith thinks Lakers offer a better package than the other two and says to Dwight “im trading you to the Lakers”, im sure he won’t say no.
if the rumors of Dalembert-to-DAL come to fruition, DAL would NOT be able to use the TPE in pursuit of D12. But yeah, that would be one way to get him..
Slava.
http://www.twitter.com/hobojarpen
but i can see why Howard would like Dallas
Dirk’s game probably complements him the best, in terms of pairing up with other bigs
Woj confimed NJ was 1st. Didn't confirm anything about Dallas being 2
In fact Dallas is slowly being phased out when any media members our talking about D12. They have no assets to trade back.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 5:23 PM PST up reply actions
so again, NJ is D12's first choice, but if (and it's a very real possibility) Otis ends up wanting to trade Howard to LAL, he wouldn't complain and accept it
Slava.
http://www.twitter.com/hobojarpen
Dallas will always be number two as far as I'm concerned
nudge get it?
Is that Basketball Reasonable enough?
Is dwight really afraid people going to claim hes following shaqs shadow? Come to L.A. dont be a wuss. But who has better offer, lakers or nets
"They’re a very special group of men. Cherish them, you will not see their like again."
by chaucer on Dec 10, 2011 5:27 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
As of right now the Lakers
Nets are apparently trying to get another team or teams involved
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 5:28 PM PST up reply actions
Wait really?
Explain to me how? I thought NJ had the better offer.
NJ is offering Brook Lopez and a 1st rounder (some say 2 1's)
If D12 goes to NJ, at best that becomes @ best a mid 1st rounder more likely a late 1st rounder which carries little to no value in the NBA. LA would offer Bynum, and possibly Ebanks/Caracter, draft picks, or something else. But the fact that the things that arn’t variables (draft picks) , LA has the better deal. Bynum you can build a team around, you can’t do that with Lopez
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 5:35 PM PST up reply actions
I just don't understand who the Nets can package in a multi-team deal.
The only potential assets they have are draft picks. If they get Dwight, those picks will mid-to-late first round.
seriously, he can also take the chance to prove that he's better than shaq
by showing that he can get LA more championships than shaq did :D
Exactly. Plus I thought he and paul wanted to pair up
"They’re a very special group of men. Cherish them, you will not see their like again."
by chaucer on Dec 10, 2011 5:31 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
dont see what the difference is...
shaq followed wilt’s, and kareems shadow, and netted him 3 titles. if hes worried about that then go to the nets and wait till your 30 to win one.
by Mark Jaramillo on Dec 10, 2011 5:49 PM PST up reply actions
It's a shame.
Late last night, we found out that a revised offer was going to be announced in the morning. But basically nothing happened all day.
Does dwight feel slighted the lakes didnt go aftrr him first
"They’re a very special group of men. Cherish them, you will not see their like again."
by chaucer on Dec 10, 2011 5:30 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I doubt that, because he wasn't available first.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 5:31 PM PST up reply actions
he shouldnt...
he said the nets over verybody else. soo that would be his fault if anything
by Mark Jaramillo on Dec 10, 2011 5:50 PM PST up reply actions
My head feels overloaded,
trying to keep up with everything when I come back from a break away from the computer. I’m going insane.
Tell me about it…im at a party ignoring everyone, looking at my droid for news lol
"They’re a very special group of men. Cherish them, you will not see their like again."
by chaucer on Dec 10, 2011 5:35 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
It would really suck if he goes nets. I thought part of cp3 trade was to lure him here
"They’re a very special group of men. Cherish them, you will not see their like again."
by chaucer on Dec 10, 2011 5:33 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I'm still thinking it's a smokescreen
Dwight: “Otis, tell everyone I want to go to the Nets, but really I want to go to LA”
Christian Ponder: Super Bowl 50 MVP for the Minnesota Vikings
For Basketball Reasons
THIS^^^^^^^
"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung
But if the Lakers aren't Dwight's first choice
then he would be less likely to sign an extension with the Lakers, which would presumably make him worth less in a trade to LA.
he is NOT going to turn down an extension in LA
nobody in their right mind would do that….
"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung
I'm just playing devil's advocate.
I don’t think Dwight’s wishes are going to affect his trade value for LA. Orlando doesn’t have a lot of leverage here. The Lakers’ offer is likely to be the best that they will get either way.
Well D12 has confirmed he asked to be traded, just not where
JoshuaBRobbins Josh Robbins
Dwight: “Just because I’ve asked to be traded doesn’t mean I don’t like where I’m at.”
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 5:36 PM PST reply actions
Nope
he means the city most likely. Folks seem to assume that people dont like certain cities so they won’t play there. While that is true in some cases, it isn’t here
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
I understand that.
But I think he’s talking about his team. You don’t ask to be traded to another city, you ask to be moved to another team.
Well, I feel this was in response to people's attacks
on other cities in response to his trade request
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
I'm going through the Yahoo live updates and KD is a moron.
Woj is breaking news about player signings and inside sources and KD tweets…
KDonhoops: Last bite of my tuna. Why don’t I buy this more often? http://t.co/5ieKN9Ej [via Twitter]
I really really really hate this guy.
Affectionately,
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 5:36 PM PST reply actions
He must really love tuna
I hate scooter pie
by Lmbs2slaghtr on Dec 10, 2011 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
I was wondering who that was. Hes posting nothing but garbage on yahoo live wire
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by chaucer on Dec 10, 2011 5:39 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
+1
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Why hate him 'cuz he's tweeting pics of his food?
There are other reasons. It’s not like there’s anything going on right now. No trade approvals until Monday.
You're only a success for the moment that you complete a successful act. - Tex Winter
Tweetness
....Really? All this time I thought trades were going to happen today -.-
I’m spent. See you all Monday then.
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius
It's been made known for hours that nothing is coming until Monday.
Either way, why hate KD ‘cuz he’s tweeting pics of his food? He’s a shitty writer, hate him for that.
You're only a success for the moment that you complete a successful act. - Tex Winter
Tweetness
i stopped following him, 90% of his tweets are about the most obscure subjects
Follow me: @theshmoes.
almost nothing about bball
which is what I follow him for lol
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Kelly Dwyer's a blogger
Not a sports journalist or a part of the media. No one should take him serious at all.
by LizzakeShizzow on Dec 10, 2011 8:23 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT DWIGHT'S FIRST CHOICE IS...
If the Lakers offer a better package for him, and are able to take on Turkoglu’s contract, Orlando will accept our offer. He is not going to turn down an extension with LA. NJ may be his first choice, according to “sources”, but he isnt going to say no to his second choice. Otis is going to accept the best offer and NJ has nothing to offer but Lopez, and Bynum is a better overall center than Lopez. And they arent going to do a deal before the CP3 trade goes through. Otis will wait on the Lakers offer.
"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung
I think the biggest problem we have is a way to absorb turk's salary
unless ORL wants whatever else we receive from NO not named Paul…
We can if we trade our 3 biggest salaries besides Kobe, which we're doing
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 5:44 PM PST up reply actions
but orl has to like those players enough though
if we just get junk back from NO (aside from paul), magic may not like them and won’t want them
Bynum is the centerpiece and the rest is kinda filler
Bynum looks better then Lopez since the rest of both teams trades aren’t that appealing
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 6:02 PM PST up reply actions
couple options....
amnesty a big contract (blake, walton)
use sasha’s trade exception to absorb the extra money in turk’s contract
thats 10 million a year right there.
"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung
duh...
dont know what i was thinking with that…. too much computer today.
well, you still got that trade exception.
"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung
I don't know
the attempts to find a 3rd and possibly 4th team make me a bit nervous.
Christian Ponder: Super Bowl 50 MVP for the Minnesota Vikings
For Basketball Reasons
look at how hard the NO/LA/HOU trade has been
the more teams you add, the harder is it to make everyone happy.
"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung
no, this is what happens
when stern gets involved
by mr. eggplant on Dec 10, 2011 5:48 PM PST up reply actions
mitch should be busy entertaining other options should this bubble burst
we need our final core together sooner and as i maintain, at least LO isn’t part of that
Jason smith and banks
Should be coming over on 1yr deals, I think.
by sean.is on Dec 10, 2011 5:40 PM PST via mobile reply actions
banks should be packaged for dwight i would guess
jason smith well, looks like a hard worker, typical backup big whose young
There's an update at the top of this post. F5 your pages.
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Tweetness
am more or less satisfied with this, we're choosing to take a risk anyways
but dwight coming along makes this sweet
“It’s in David Stern’s hands now,” one source said. “He’ll decide on the trade.”
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Basically the trade has been submitted
now it’s up to Stern
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 6:23 PM PST up reply actions
with our lakers
a pending proposal
and dwight playing games
we stand
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Yippee!
I waited hours on end for more info about the trade, only to figure out that we get Jason Smith and Marcus Banks! Well, this feels like a complete waste of a day.
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius
definitely not the end of the bargain
jason smith might be a keeper though
Lol, yea at least we have a backup thats not older then some coaches
Banks will prob be waived or traded somewhere
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 5:48 PM PST up reply actions
Dam I really thought today was going to be the day too.
Fudge monkeys. Effing fudge monkeys.
Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 5:46 PM PST reply actions
So did I
So did we actually submit it this time? I’ve heard that we have 3 different times already
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius
4
"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung
stern would have blocked it for basketball reasons
stern and cuban want us robbed
Would've added to much cash, couldn't get D12
Because we couldn’t have absorbed Hedo’s contract, unless he signed for the MLE
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 5:49 PM PST up reply actions
I think theirs a waiting period when you acquire a player you can't immdediately trade him
Unless we worked out a 4 team deal with Orl… but that def would have been killed
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 5:54 PM PST up reply actions
I think that's only for signed players.
Traded players can be swapped at any time. I may be wrong though.
Traded players
can’t be traded for 3 months after the transaction.
I wouldn't count on D12 anymore...I think he's going to NJ
they actually have pieces to move for him…I’d be happy if we get at least CP3.
Go Sharks!
Whaaa?
What pieces? They have no one which is why their trying to get another team involved to make it happen
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 5:52 PM PST up reply actions
Let me explain: they THINK* they do
and if that 3rd team is us and we get Howard and they get Bynum, I’m down. :P
Go Sharks!
stop whining you guys...I will happy if the trade even goes through :)
small steps…small steps. If it does, then we can bitch :D
Go Sharks!
It would easier if he'd just retire
Save the back and go to broadcasting
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 5:50 PM PST up reply actions
no, they'll have to start him as part of the deal
basketball reasons
by mr. eggplant on Dec 10, 2011 5:51 PM PST up reply actions
Here's what I don't get about Stern vetoing the trade
Correct me if I’m wrong but the Hornets get the exact same thing minus Dragic and in turn, lose more people in Smith and Banks. I get the additional draft pick but that’s it. Or am I missing something?
ONWARD!
in addition, instead
something like that, probably
by mr. eggplant on Dec 10, 2011 5:57 PM PST up reply actions
Your looking at it all wrong
Your using logic, when you should be focusing on the basketball reasons
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 5:57 PM PST up reply actions
Isn't NO on the contraction list anyway?
If so, what difference would it make what kind of trades they made?
It also means
they’re losing the contracts of Smith and Banks and the owners don’t have to pay them anymore.
nooooooo
no way,him and kobe got into it
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So did Kobe and Artest, and Kobe and Barnes.
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Don't think he would fit in with Kobe.
I get the feeling he’d rub Kobe the wrong way just like he’s rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 6:00 PM PST up reply actions
Same thing was said,
about Barnes and Artest
No... there's a difference hating a guy because he's a dbag
and then hating a guy because you’re competing. At the end of the day, Kobe respected Barnes and Artest, I don’t think you can say the same about Humphries.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 7:25 PM PST up reply actions
But how do we know
that Kobe respected Barnes? Maybe Artest yeah but BARNES?
It's all speculation of course.
I mean c’mon, the players on the Kansas team said no to him because he made such an a-hole.
“But we told him, ‘Coach, you can’t bring this guy in,’” Langford recalled. “You’d figure Roy would say something like, ’Let’s work on him,’ or ’Let’s give him another chance.’ Instead he told Humphries, ‘Sorry, you can’t come.’”
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 7:28 PM PST up reply actions
Jason Smith reminds me of Mark Madsen
I’m sensing another 3-peat coming up
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Ah, but can he dance
like Madsen could?
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Lol
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius
Madsenlike:
Can he play part of a quarter with only one shoe on?
Is that Basketball Reasonable enough?
Im not sure if this is in reference to Orl or his choice of team.
JoshuaBRobbins Josh Robbins
Howard says a lot of factors played a role w/his choice, but he also wanted a “voice” in team decisions.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 5:59 PM PST reply actions
If the opinion he wants to voice to his team is that they're screwing up and he's sick of losing, go to NJ.
He all he wants to voice is his ring size and how much bling to put on the ring, come to LA
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 6:01 PM PST up reply actions
Not gonna get a voice in team decisions in L.A.
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so, trade talk back on, huh?
So funny and I’m not sure what in the world made me think of it, but y’all know that little kick that he does with his foot when he shoots, you know, to draw the defender? Yeah, well if Paul does end up a Laker I won’t be able to bitch about that anymore, will I?
So we lose the valuable trade exception because of Banks and Smith
How significant is that for Dwight-Turkoglu deal? Does it make it impossible now? Could we just flip Banks and Smith to the Magic?
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by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 6:25 PM PST up reply actions
No the trade exception isn't gonna happen thanks to Dan Gilbert
Banks is fodder and Smith can be a good backup. We can still take in Turks contract though because we are trading 3 of our 4 highest salaries
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 6:28 PM PST up reply actions
Do you hate Dirk's kick?
Kobe incorporated that kick into some of his jumpshots when I watched highlights of his summer games.
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by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 6:27 PM PST up reply actions
Go Hoosiers!
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Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
Trade Exceptions and CP3/D Howard
Someone correct me here, but this is what I’m seeing:
We are getting CP3 and giving up LO and Gasol. CP3 has a contract of $16.3mm and LO/Gasol’s contracts are $27.6mm. By doing this trade, we get CP3 and a trade exception of $11mm and change.
We then trade Bynum (plus picks I assume) to Orlando for Dwight Howard and Hedo Turkoglu. Bynum gets paid $14.9mm and D Howard/H Turkoglu total $29.1mm. The trade balances by using the $11mm trade exception from the CP3 trade plus the $5mm Vujacic trade exception from last year.
We would then have approximately $2.5mm of trade exception left (which I assume will be used in the initial CP3 trade for the 2 scrubs they threw in).
Does all this work to anyone else?
Depends how much the S&T salaries of Banks and Smith are right? What if they exceed 2.5 mil?
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by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 6:29 PM PST up reply actions
Those 2 aren't even going to fill the Sasha Vujacic trade exception we have
Either way we can absorb Turks contract regardless of CP3
4 team trades don’t work for me so bare with me:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6u8cq8m
The salary incoming on the Lakers is similar to what would come in after CP3 and D12 with Turk. Once LO,Pau, and Drew are gone we can take in Turks contract
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 6:38 PM PST up reply actions
Didn't go through those lengths to see, but it works for me, either way we can absorb Turks contract
also im not sure, but I don’t think you can use exceptions like that
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 6:30 PM PST up reply actions
Really?
Then why is everyone fussing over this 11 million trade exception we could have gotten? 11 mil wouldnt have covered up a Bynum for Howard-Turkoglu deal if we couldnt have used Sasha’s exception.
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by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 6:35 PM PST up reply actions
This is correct. You cannot combine the 2 trade exceptions. HOWEVER, this trade does work do to specific wording in the CBA regarding using exceptions. In this instance, we use the Vujacic exception with bynum for Dwight Howard and the CP3 exception for Turkoglu. The CBA states that if 2 separate trades could be completed, then you can use both exceptions in the same trade. (Basically, its saying that the CBA sees 2 separate trades but taking place at the same time).
Oh I see
Well then let’s just hope Smith and Banks sign for less than 2.5 mil, or Otis Smith is willing to take on dumped contracts from the Lakers
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by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 6:45 PM PST up reply actions
Believe me, those guys aren't worth that much. I'm sure Mitch isn't going for that if they cost that much
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 6:46 PM PST up reply actions
So wats latest? Howard chose nets for sure?
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by chaucer on Dec 10, 2011 6:29 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Howard's first choice is the Nets. ORL is exploring all their options.
One of Howard’s desires is to go to a place where his voice can be heard, or something along those lines. Said Otis didn’t hear him out that often, and (my opinion) probably wouldn’t be heard as a Laker.
Slava.
http://www.twitter.com/hobojarpen
By the way, if I'm the Clippers, I do this trade in a heartbeat
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6u7x6p6
Throw in MIN’s pick if ya have to.
Slava.
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Too many pieces
for Howard and Griffin? You must be joking.
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can we throw them in the cp3 deal?
maybe stern will approve for basketball reasons
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In my mind, Otis Smith is simply waiting for the league to rule on the CP3 trade
I think he’d rather have Bynum and picks than Brook (6 rebounds in 35 min/game) Lopez and picks. If Stern okay’s the CP3 deal, Otis will trade Howard to us.
My biggest concern is Stern dragging his feet on the CP3 trade and Otis caving to pressure to take NJ’s deal (or someone else coming in at the last minute with a better trade).
is bynum really better than lopez?
bynum was doing it on a championship team and etc etc but ive heard tons of fans say they thought lopez was going to be the best in the future.
ive only seen bynum play regularly
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If Lopez is as good as you say he should at least have inflated stats being on a shitty team
Dude is slower than a drip of molasses running down my leg (don’t know why I have molasses on my leg)
Coach has to meet us halfway
right
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No. Bynum when healthy is better than Lopez.
For one he rebounds a whole lot better, and is better on D. He and Brooke are comparable on O, but again Drew is a better overall player and more mobile(shock I know)
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 7:04 PM PST up reply actions
Actually, I think if you are on a non-contender, non-front court stacked team, your rebounds should go up
For example, in LA, Bynum needs to compete for rebound with Gasol and Odom, who got 10.2 and 8.7 rebounds per game, respectively.
On a team where Bynum doesn’t need to compete with big teammates to get rebounds, his rebound numbers should go up ala Kevin Love.
Lopez getting only 6 rebounds per game while Humphries his PF teammate gets 10.2, doesn’t speak well for him.
agreed 100%
Lopez is soft. That being said, I’d like Humphries to the Lakers as backup 4.
I live in NYC and see Lopez a ton
and I’d take a healthy Bynum over Lopez any day of the week. Lopez has nice touch but is super soft. If he had his brother’s passion, he’d be much better (but still not Bynum). IMO, Bynum has incredible upside. If he can stay healthy (and thats a huge IF), he will be the 2nd best center in the game.
lol thats what i needed to know ha
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hope tomorrow’s as fast as boom
Wtf??
In search of young talent to acquire Chris Paul, source says #Lakers offer Pau Gasol to the #Warriors -
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Dex retweeted it
Apparently this guy is a “Warriors beat writer for the Bay Area News Group, which includes the San Jose Mercury News, Oakland Tribune and Contra Costa Times”…Not sure whether to believe it or not
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"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius
If true, that is very bad.
If true, that would mean that Stern isn’t okaying the revised trade.
If Stern doesn't allow the Lakers to get Paul
I don’t know if he can stay commissioner amid the media backlash
so are we effectively saying we are giving bynum to the hornets?
this is so messed up
I think there is zero chance Mitch is giving up Bynum right now unless Otis wants Gasol
The other starting Centers in the league are getting pretty overpaid, so I’m pretty sure our starting Center will be Howard or Bynum
This whole situation is completely fucked up
Gotta feel bad for all the players involved.
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the lakers are being dragged too far for this
lest we are trading pau for curry and big men
Curry?
Yea I wish.
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maybe I've been watching Phil Jackson too long, but
I don’t like little midget guards. I’m even concerned with getting Chris Paul.
So I assume you're not an Earl Boykins fan...
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Hey, I like 5'3"...
…women. But I take my basketball players bigg’uns.
that's what she said
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the lakers are gutting the team with an octopus of trades as reported
or it’s all about two players and everything else is buzz
buzz equals ratings and internet hits
don’t believe it unless it goes around the major sports news outlets
If it's rejected again
At what point does Mitch give up and say enough is enough? He’s trying desperately to work something out to get Chris Paul, and the more he tries the more uncomfortable LO and Pau (well, more LO, since Pau’s being a real pro about all of this) are going to be. They’re still Lakers right now, and as of now they’re important pieces of this team.
I want Howard. I don’t really want CP3 if they don’t get Dwight, because they’d really be messing up their frontcourt in order to acquire Paul.
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Mitch has D Howard/H Turkoglu for Bynum all lined up
He’s just waiting for Stern to OK the CP3 trade so we can get the $11mm trade exception we need to pick up Turk’s contract.
If thats true
Then I’m all for CP3. If it’s not, I’d be against CP3. Problem is, I don’t think anyone has a clue what is true anymore.
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I hope you're right about Dwight Howard
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It has to be the case. Its the only logical reason we would trade Pau and Lamar.
Mitch is cutthroat, but not stupid. If CP3 is the endgame for Mitch, that would be stupid.
but it's a huge gamble if ultimately dwight doesn't land with us.
our only big man would be bynum’s knees
Mitch has to have a "highly confident" from Otis. Basically, it would be a
prearranged trade. Mitch and Otis basically said that the trade is done in principal but its just subject to the league’s approval.
i think as early as now he has bynum and lamar lined up for dwight so that doesn't concern me much other than what dwight really wants
it’s about paul and if this falls out then we move to dwight like a swiss army knife…and may i add consider what houston has to offer: scola (pau lite on the rise), martin (kobe backup), patterson (nice project) and a pick is fair gain (and then some). then we like a laser guided bomb land on our tpe surprise for a starting point guard perhaps.
i mean
davis/fisher/morris
kobe/martin/goudelocke
mwp/barnes/ebanks
scola/turkey/patterson
dwight/mle big/caracter
isn’t that bad
Well...
They could keep the same lineup they have now and it wouldn’t be that bad. I mean, they’d still have a shot at a championship. It’s all about what would end up best.
At least this isn’t the Cavs. Wonder how their fans feel right about now. The best thing they have to look forward to is a kid who played a total of 11 college games. He’s pretty good though.
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we'll see if he does become a john wall type
i really can’t imagine pau, esp lamar recovered from this. if all this fails and stuff, i am certainly all for moving lamar (even if it be just lamar among the two) and change for iggy.
I think chances are Lamar at least has played his last game as a Laker
I absolutely love the guy but after all they’re putting him through it can’t be easy on him.
Was he at Laker camp today? I didn’t hear the news about it.
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the more i think about this the more i think we need lamar moved
with mwp if he wants to have some buddy to say philly for iggy and what contract they want dumped.
I don't want MWP moved yet
I want to hear how the court announcer announces him on Christmas.
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Not necessarily. Lakers might skip Paul for now and focus on Howard, then go back to Paul if he's still available.
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i hope. hard to say. having a hard time with this
especially that other teams (hou cough) value him highly now.
with this fiasco we have been forced past the twin tower era.
Look at what Otis Smith is doing here. He is clearing cap space. He isn't going to
take back large contracts. He’s getting a young center to build around and draft picks. He clears Turkoglu via trade to Lakers and amnesty’s Arenas. They have no big contract players left after that.
If we went after Howard 1st, we would have to package Bynum and Lamar to get back Howard and Turkoglu, and this just doesn’t appeal to Otis Smith (he doesn’t want LO’s $10mm contract).
they are resigning Richardson
for I think 24 mil.
Odom's contract is cap friendly
only $2m guaranteed after this season
"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec
they will be getting cap relief with either trade. Bynum is paid
like a center on his second deal would get paid. he’s been in the league longer than Lopez.
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I kind of wish they'd do that now
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Truth is
If this second attempt gets vetoed, I’d say “**** it.” Just make the deal with Houston, getting the pieces the Rockets were going to send to the Hornets in the original deal. Then turn around and deal for Dwight. As much as I want both Paul and Howard, this is becoming a pain and if we can only have one, I’d rather have Howard.
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these rumors are making us look cheap
which we aren’t and so i think 75% of this is crap
It is.
The only thing legit is everyone waiting on Stern
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 7:27 PM PST up reply actions
This made me laugh
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lol, i made that yesterday
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oh really?
I just typed “David Stern sucks” into google images and this was in the second row. Well done sir.
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really? i only posted it on yesterday's thread, lol
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It said "1 day ago" next to it so I knew it was new
Though I figured there was a chance you guys had seen it already with thousands of comments on this situation and I haven’t read all of them.
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Here you go
Third row actually.
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It was the same each time I clicked on it
Oh well.
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by Marty Mart on Dec 10, 2011 8:09 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
i could just imagine what scenarios brown has to make.
that’s why we have to end this drama soon.
If I were Mitch
I’d strongly consider trading Pau for the Houston package…We would no doubt have a chance to get a good maybe not great pg and have pieces to flip for Howard along with some other key needs…Wouldnt be a bad deal all the way around
Da Bears....enuff said
Dragic is a good bench PG. Don't know if he has the personality to start.
The Houston package is very tempting though for just Pau.
1My thoughts exactly....How could it not be tempting? 1st round picks plus quality players
then we could start scola and then deal for Howard
Da Bears....enuff said
if thats the case, our roster will look like
PG: Morris, Dragic, Fisher, Blake
SG: Kobe, Kevin Martin, Goudelocke, Kapono
SF: Barnes, Turk, World Peace (amnesty?), Ebanks
PF: Odom, Scola, Patterson
C: Howard, Caracter
add in additional trades and mini-mle, this is a contender, but so are other options as well (ala Paul makes LA a contender for the long term)
We'd most likely be
waiving our rookies then since we’ll be past the max number of roster slots
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
I mean,
you can’t do a trade and have more guys on your roster than allowed. You have to clear the room first
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Well like, if we add 2 rook/bench players like Ebanks or Dragic in the Howard trade, then we're good
Just listed them all to show the options
It would make our roster look like this prior to any additional trades big or small
Morris, Dragic, Fisher, Blake
Kobe, Martin, Goudelocke, Kapono
Barnes, World Peace, Ebanks
Odom, Scola, Patterson
Bynum, Caracter
It’s a stacked team, even before we pick up more pieces
the trade wouldnt be set just to get Dragic lol
But the sum of all those players would make the Lakers better all around bench included than keeping Pau
Da Bears....enuff said
but the sum of the pieces doesn't add up to the whole IMO
nba talent is shaped in a pyramid. there are only a few elite players. i’m pretty sure it’s easier getting decent bench players for mle and vets min than it is to get an top guy like pau.
For all intents and purposes Kobe can slide to the sf role during certain game situations
K Mart will help space the floor which is always a good thing
Da Bears....enuff said
Not difficult
Who was the best 3 point option on the team last year? Was it Fisher?
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He's actually a good three point shooter still
One thing he can still do. Not as good as he used to be but 40% from three is actually really good. Of course, he’s left wide open a good percentage of the time too, so take that number with a grain of salt.
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I was talking about Fish
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lol still don't know how thats possible
I see him drain threes on a regular basis (even deep contested ones), and then we also see him going for a wide open layup and somehow messing it up.
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I think Fish and Artest are the absolute worst 2 on 1 fast break duo in the league
Even when its those two on a fast break with no defenders, I am no longer surprised when they miss their layup
Yup
I remember Artest during Game 4 last year. Somehow messing up that wide open layup and effectively destroying all hope I had that they’d make any sort of comeback.
I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot.- Kobe Bryant
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The problem with fish
wasn’t his 3-pt shooting, but his lack there of
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"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Thats true
Whatever his role is this year, whether it’s starting or not, he needs to stop with the long twos and shoot way more than 30% of his shots from the three point line. It would be better for everyone.
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I hope his role is limited to what Sasha did in the '10 Finals
Come in for free throws, and thats it.
Know its not gonna happen, but yeah, just saying I wouldn’t mind if his minutes were severely limited.
steve blake is a career 0.39 3pt shooter (last yr included)
doesn’t help that he stunk it up last year.
bottom line for me is that i don’t think the downgrade from pau—>scola (and having no servicable backup at C) is worth having martin backup kobe and the slight upgrade in PG (who knows, dragic could stink it up like blake did last yr)
we can find plenty of servicable SG & PG backups through free agency.
Steve Blake was lost on the offense last year
With a more traditional offense this year, I think Blake and any new players will have an easier time on offense
Yes he is
he’s also savvy at getting to the line.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 8:13 PM PST up reply actions
im not the only one?
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I actually didn't mind it
it’s ridiculously quick though
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do you know how to get jr smiths jumpshot in nba 2k12
or what the name is for his
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No idea, I'd have to look real quick.
His is pretty good though. relatively easy. Danny Granger’s is good too.
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I prefer going younger NOW while Pau 31 and LO 32 have some pretty good trade value
rather than holding on to the past and be stuck with big contracts for old players and cant move em
Da Bears....enuff said
if you're trading them off for elite players like cp3 & dwight, then i'm all for it
but for simple above average players like scola & k-mart? what’s the point?
to rephrase this
turning pau into scola is worth the 15 minutes that k-mart will play as kobe’s backup? is dragic even that much better than fish/blake?
this whole trade business
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by SoCalGal on Dec 10, 2011 8:02 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Screw lolcats?????
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stern and dallas
this entire mess began/was amplified by a humiliating loss last playoffs feeding fire to the belief that others here held that:
a. this lineup as presently constructed would not be enough to win it all this year
we could have debated on that and to my mind a good number of us here and behind el segundo blinders believe we could have kept pat and made minor tweaks
but we explored dwight and paul, kindling this new reason that we not only had to make lineup changes but had to build for the future and that these two pillars were remotely ours to be had. then add mixed signals from talking heads and players and we end up making a proposal that was sudden (in LAL fashion) and aired out.
then stern throws the monkey wrench (much to his, ours and NO’s demise of sorts) and blocks a reasonable trade
which created this strong and present belief among some who now are all in for a trade that LO, pau and the team got hit hard and damaged. there is no turning back and all argument that this team could have won it all still this year is now overshadowed by a damage, whose extent is hard to account for now.
so there was only one way forward to some—-and that’s onward to trading pau and lamar, re-do the proposal and get the coveted star who could have bagged another star. hey, superstars make the name, make the league and make the money for this league. but this stigma stern created hangs on at the back of our minds and we have been dragged in the eyes of media to a trade show - very unexpected and unlike how the lakers trade.
bottomline, we want the best for the lakers. and although this is a star-driven league and getting paul and howard remain the top priority, the lakers have options. the lakers can entertain houston, philly, golden state or some other random team that still finds gasol and lamar highly valuable. some what was once a held notion that we can still win now with this team is now superceded by the belief that we make changes and we explore options while both have value. can’t blame those talking about houston (a very good deal for scola, martin, prospect big and pick) and some helpful guards/wings for lamar.
we just want the lakers to win.
thanks stern. GO LAKERS!
by bypasser on Dec 10, 2011 8:19 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
with sarcasm for basketball reasons of course
this fiasco gets tiring as the day goes. feel bad for the lakers
I think Lewis Monroe should be the next NBA Commissioner
for basketball reasons
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damn, that would be perfect. I always thought that the NBA needed a MOAT.
If they PROTECT the MONEY, no need for anymore lockouts.
by neokoros on Dec 10, 2011 8:36 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
i could not have said it better
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That opens the possibilities
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Magic are shopping Dwight Howard beyond just the teams of his choice
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 8:35 PM PST reply actions
My guess is they are calling up random teams and saying
What would you take for Bynum? What about Lopez?
Maybe they will call Houston and go
We’ll take your Kevin Martin, Scola, Dragic, + pieces + draft pick package.
And then we can trade Gasol straight up for Dwight in a three team trade.
But I dunno about having Bynum and Howard playing together. Defensively, it would be insane though.
All Otis Smith cares about is getting the best deal.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 8:46 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
???
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
CP3 Trade Latest: Sources say Lakers have pulled out three-team trade for Chris Paul
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Maybe Dwight instead of CP3?
Ball don't lie.
by East.Coast.Laker.Fan on Dec 10, 2011 8:54 PM PST reply actions
??????
@ESPNSteinLine: Sources say Lakers will instead trade Lamar Odom to Dallas into Mavericks’ new trade exception
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whoa?!
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so no more CP3?!
and to Dallas?!!!!
Poor LO if that is true.
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Now Woj said the deal has fallen apart
Of course, I wonder if stern had anything to do with it. He prob wanted the lakers to trade the whole freakin team.
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
The three-way deal to send Chris Paul to the Lakers has “fallen apart,” league source involved in talks says.
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The fuck just happened
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Fuck.
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We better get Howard or I'll be pissed, and also get a FA
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by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 10, 2011 8:57 PM PST reply actions
need more explanation pls?
why odom to dallas for nothing?
nobody has got any clue right now mane
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because odom is unhappy.
I told my sister earlier that if this new CP3 trade fell through — for whatever reason — we’d probably end up shipping Odom somewhere for peanuts, just to diffuse the whole awkward situation.
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probably to take on turk's contract
they better be sure that otis wants this or else we’ll be royally screwed
by no stance on Dec 10, 2011 9:02 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The Sports Guy?
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by East.Coast.Laker.Fan on Dec 10, 2011 9:02 PM PST up reply actions
im going to be sick
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This may be a stupid question but..
Can someone tell me what a trade exception is
Lets you trade for a player when you wouldn't normally be allowed to
Because you don’t have the cap space
There's no way the Lakers would just throw Odom away unless they KNOW that they have a Dwight deal in the making.
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they should just do a three team trade
odom—>mavs
trade exception+bynum—>magic
dwight+turk—>lakers
it’ll be more secure that way, so otis can’t back out last minute
by no stance on Dec 10, 2011 9:07 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
this must be a move to bring ammo back
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by Czheck on Dec 10, 2011 9:03 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Bynum + Trade Exception for Howard?
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Howard Beck
Lakers pulled out of talks tonight, unable to meet new demands by Hornets/NBA. Story soon at nytimes.com
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Ok, if we get Howard
PG- Morris (yes, I want this)/blake/fisher
SG- bryant/goudelock
SF- barnes/mwp/walton
PF- gasol/(FA, please)
C- howard
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by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 10, 2011 9:04 PM PST reply actions
our rookie PG
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The rookie, Darius Morris
6’5 PG with good defense and good passing.
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by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 10, 2011 9:10 PM PST up reply actions
4 words....
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 9:06 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
im with picard on this one
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Well... 6... but WTF is 1 now :)
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 9:06 PM PST up reply actions
I told you!! I knew it
I knew this mess would not happen because freakin Stern is a dick!
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Disappointing...
I figure something was wrong when the news stopped pouring in.
If Boston does do a megadeal
with CP3 and DWest going to Boston, how mad would you guys be? #Hopesithappens
it'd be sweeter when we win the championship again
good luck using garnett to guard dwight
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 9:15 PM PST up reply actions
Well, you can't combine player and exceptions in a trade.
I think the Lakers are going after Howard and exception will be used for a power forward.
By the way, Lakers should’ve done this a long time ago. It was visibly clear that Stern and the Hornets were not negotiating in good faith at all.
by E-ROC on Dec 10, 2011 9:08 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
If we're keeping Pau, we don't need a PF though...?
"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec
Nevermind. I think Gasol is leaving too along with Bynum.
So they’ll theoretically have Howard and acquire another PF.
they alredy rejected trading gasol+bynum for howard+whoever
didn’t happen before, not going to happen now
I swear if we end up getting nothing, not even Dwight after Stern screwed everything
and we trade Lamar for nothing. I bet Lamar told Kupchak he wants to be traded after that meeting on the first day of camp.
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in that meeting, I mean
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why? he was upset b/c he didn't want to be traded
and if lamar was just being irrational, then mitch should’ve let him cool down for a while before pulling the trigger to just trade him.
pretty sure this is part of a bigger scheme (to get howard or cp3)
And we still trading LO to the Mavs who happened to won the championship last season
Am I missin something here
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LO had to be moved
but to DAL makes no sense unless Mitch has plans for that TE
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he has too much emotion to keep him here.
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emotion needs cooling
pretty sure mitch isn’t going to just pull the trigger for odom’s emotions
just like kobe back in 07
Stern just pulled off the biggest screw job ever
We need to win the title and then when stern goes to hand us the trophy, kobe can fuck him up and tell him to stick it
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Hornets are going to end up with a worse package
because of this… Clippers won’t give up EG, Warriors won’t give up curry, houston won’t give them the package they were going to get. They’re going to end up with.. what exactly? I don’t think the NBA can legitimately allow Boston to secure CP for Rondo.
Thats messed up
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How important are trade exceptions exactly???
It seems like Mitch really really wanted a TE…
by 82 games of pain! on Dec 10, 2011 9:12 PM PST reply actions
Try to keep Pau, but still get Dwight.
One can hope…
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by East.Coast.Laker.Fan on Dec 10, 2011 9:13 PM PST reply actions
If that happens, I would be happy
I mean we deserve something now, since fuck face messed up the first deal. He cant veto this one
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Says one Western Conference executive: “The Lakers are shifting toward trying to make a Dwight Howard deal.”
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i liked the idea of CP3 playing for the Lakers
But I thought we were giving up too much the first time around, and never mind Stern’s basketball reasons.
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this has been the craziest few days in quite some time. only fitting that this should all have one crazy ending
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The logic — which is my own, as of now — is that trade exception paves way for Lakers to take on Turkoglu’s contract from Orlando.
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Says one Western Conference executive: “The Lakers are shifting toward trying to make a Dwight Howard deal.”
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by deadmuse on Dec 10, 2011 9:14 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
we better get a 1st round pick
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KEVIN DING
The logic — which is my own, as of now — is that trade exception paves way for Lakers to take on Turkoglu’s contract from Orlando.
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yes get howard via trade and sign chauncey billups.
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and keep Pau in the bargain
perhaps a better deal for the Lakers
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by deadmuse on Dec 10, 2011 9:15 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Odom gives us a trade exemption which then allows us to absorb the ridiculous contract of Turk.
If Orlando trades Howard they will also be unloading Turk. You have to take Turk if you want Howard.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 9:16 PM PST up reply actions
clearly Orlando told LA they wanted cap room more than they wanted Lamar
Picks + Trade Exception + Bynum for Dwight
by Barbaroi on Dec 10, 2011 9:17 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
but odom can be bought out for $2m end of next year..
smh. #hope
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How can CP3 legitimately get traded anywhere else? Hopefully we’re able to somehow pick him up next offseason.
we might end up sending gasol and bynum to orlando. so get ready. it’s a lot, but worth it i believe.
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Indeed.
Sounds like a plan… However I had dreams for our “Big 3” Just saying…
only bynum
with tpe and picks
pau got his wish – he is staying a laker
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indeed
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by bluexfalcon on Dec 10, 2011 9:25 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Unless they get Howard and thats looking like a big if,
Trading Lamar might be the dumbest thing Mitch has done. This is a huuuuge leap of faith hes taking by trading Lamar. If he gives up both Bynum and Gasol for Howard, the teams front court is going to be super thin and the back court is going to be super old. This sucks either way.
by Ador08 on Dec 10, 2011 9:16 PM PST via mobile reply actions
if we land dwight, i would be sooo happy. happier than if we had landed just paul.
chauncey billups come to L.A>
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I was hoping for that!
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if we gave up the most versatile pf who's a borderline all star for nothing....
this’ll set us back for a while
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Stein says we're getting draft picks for Odom
to flip for DH
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Ebanks, draft picks, etc.
But Orlando’s Management is a clusterfuck right now.
They just gave J-Rich a contract
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Reports: NBA champion Dallas Mavericks acquiring Lamar Odom from Lakers for basketball reasons.
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yep, all because of Stern.
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LMFAO
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it actually makes a lot more sense to go after D12 and target Billups or BDiddy via amnesty.
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please let it be Chauncey
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by deadmuse on Dec 10, 2011 9:18 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I really hope this fuels Kobe's drive and determination some-how
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cant give up Gasol and Bynum.
Has to MWP or maybe Barnes plus Bynum.
by Ador08 on Dec 10, 2011 9:18 PM PST via mobile reply actions
This shit got crazy, someone give me a breakdown
Why the fuck are we trading LO to Dallas, will Orl not take Bynum and LO for Turk and D12? They would still have less cap space?
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 9:19 PM PST reply actions
this is a huge risk for the lakers
lining up all assets for howard with no guarantees
WTF?
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 9:19 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
LOL
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I'm hungry and feel like eating pizza now. Dammit.
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by East.Coast.Laker.Fan on Dec 10, 2011 9:20 PM PST up reply actions
Hedo has a twitter?
"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker
"Fisher's defense is called escort service in my country, just accompany" -Ibou
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oh it's just Freeman talking shit.
"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker
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is it a legit account
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Front office executive on re-entering CP3 derby: “My initial reaction is, ‘Who wants to go through that headache with the NBA playing God?’”
So true, they basically glued him to NOH for the year.
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Fuck Stern and the whole NBA office.
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chauncey is a hell of a good player.
he’s got another 3 years of very good basketball. or at least 2. we might just need him for one.
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Is Odom to Dallas confirmed confirmed?
Or are we trying LO/Bynum for D12
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 9:22 PM PST reply actions
good news for laker fans
http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2011/12/10/2627442/paul-trade-dead-odom-to-dallas
La Illaha Illallah Muhamadur Rasulallah
New post up. Shuffle on over.
http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2011/12/10/2627458/pt-ii-more-cp3-trade-news
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Its okay everyone, we'll just wait til next season and CP3 will sign as a free agent ^___^
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- SF GIants Baseball 2011 = *sigh* Home of 6 World Series Titles
- SF 49ers Football 2011-2012 = ??? Home of the 5.5 Super Bowl Champs ( Aaron Rodgers should of been a Niner)
- WHO'S GOT IT BETTER THAN US???? NOOOOOOOOOOBODYY!!!!!!!!!!!!
- A fan of the Warriors and Lakers.
Sorry guys I'm barely understanding how Twitter works :P
Grabbed this off the Yahoo FA coverage.
freemaneric: “I am excited to experience California and its Pizza Kitchens.” – Hedo Turkoglu [via Twitter]
So I guess “via Twitter” just means it’s on twitter and not that it was taken from Hedo’s twitter. False alarm!
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 9:23 PM PST reply actions
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