Here We Go Again...
by wondahbap on Dec 10, 2011 10:05 AM PST
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PrintVia Twitter, ESPN's Marc Stein and Chris Broussard are reporting that another trade proposal for Chris Paul has been submitted to the NBA offices.
@ESPNSteinLine & myself have been told by sources that new CP trade btwn LAL, NO & Hou has been submitted to NBA office for approval
I know the source isn't always the best, but Broussard has been remarkably on top of this story. This kinda matters to his bosses. I think it goes through this time. Dwight, next. We'll keep you updated. Be sure to follow both writers on Twitter as well: @Chris_Broussard and @ESPNSteinLine. Comment away....
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ya there's just no way he does
"I promise you, we’re going to build a dictating, dominating, attacking defense. I’ve said it a million times. It’s not a slight on our offense, but we’re not going to win any world championship until we have that." - A.J. Smith
Occupy David Stern!
Seriously though, it better go through..
He rejects it again he better be waterboarded.
by Jog73 on Dec 10, 2011 11:01 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Hopefully Okafor comes back.
Then we can send him to the Rockets and maybe they’ll help facilitate a trade for Dwight :) The Rockets have just been so kind to us, we need to repay them somehow! :P
Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 10:08 AM PST reply actions
if we get Okafor, keep him
D12 does have to sit some minutes and Okafor has good chem with cp3
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
OHHHHHH YYAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
"I promise you, we’re going to build a dictating, dominating, attacking defense. I’ve said it a million times. It’s not a slight on our offense, but we’re not going to win any world championship until we have that." - A.J. Smith
second time's the charm i guess..
either TA or Okafor, but we’ll have a glut of SF’s now if TA comes our way
Maybe flip one? or amnesty Artest. Though I'd like to keep our amnesty clause
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
play small ball Showtime 2 style imo
Move Artest to the 4, start Ariza at the 3, have Barnes back up 3 and 2.
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
Is Commish a for life thing?
Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 10:09 AM PST reply actions
Till he resigns.
What? No! Not again Ned!
by Bard in Black on Dec 10, 2011 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
Dam, that's a good job :)
Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
or gets fired
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
@WojYahooNBA
Celtics, Hornets still working to finalize David West sign and trade deal, league sources say. Three year, $27M-29M deal in the works.
Meh, there goes that possibility. Probably wasn’t realistic now that we likely aren’t getting a big TPE back.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
For JO.
So much for the NBA needing the Hornets to get younger. West for nada???? C;mon son!
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C'mon, son!
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
by douchiedude on Dec 10, 2011 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
we are winning, if thats the case
THE POWER OF SHAW COMPELS YOU.. THE POWER OF SHAW COMPELS YOU.....
lol, I had that feeling last night playing a ten deep Beirut game.
Came down to three cups on our side before we won.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Kobe is a smart enough player to hit our wide open shooters ala Jordan
or if he has to do it himself do it himself.
#InKobeWeTrust
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
I just got off work and was getting ready to sleep.
Been caught up in this all morning. No chance of sleep now!
by keithsweatshirt on Dec 10, 2011 10:13 AM PST reply actions
Seriously though, if Stern vetoes this while allowing the West S&T to go through to the Celtics.
Laker Nation will go nuclear.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
All this trade drama just got me to sign up
Been following the story with the rest of you guys. Got my fingers crossed for Paul 1st, then a swift Howard 2nd.
Cmon!
Welcome!
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
me too!
I signed up only because of this story!
by keithsweatshirt on Dec 10, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
Lol
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius
same... wait, what?
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
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Welcome.... bro??
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
Lamar Odom - "Half Swiss-Army knife, half Pez-dispenser" Meriones
Thanks for the welcome
Glad I found this place, it’s a great resource.
Is that Basketball Reasonable enough?
Some dudes just got it.
Jelly.
Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
ROFL
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
@LarryCoon
Maybe LA agreed to send Kim along with Khloe….
THIS EXPLAINS EVERYTHING.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
by Ben R on Dec 10, 2011 10:21 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Nah, Reggie Bush still lives in NO. Kim is going to hook up with him again.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Hoepfully that SB magic is still there
The Dolphins need any help they can get lol
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
After seeing the tabloids and the "Kris is Gay" stuff...
I hope so. Those girls are toxic. How is anyone else dumb enough to get wrapped in their reality lives.
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Delusional girls/women
who wish they had the Kardashian life style…. they end up defending them like they know them… so annoying..
"Where Yo Curleh Mustache at!?"
"Lebron joins teams with his friends; Kobe’s enemies join teams with him." -Gil Meriken
Hey you shut up Kim is too pretty to be wrong about Kris being gay. =D jk i just wanna get on her good side if yah know what i mean >=D
lol I know what you mean...
…I wouldn’t mind bending her over and showing her the 50 states… ya dig?
"Where Yo Curleh Mustache at!?"
"Lebron joins teams with his friends; Kobe’s enemies join teams with him." -Gil Meriken
Yeah, you can stop right there, thanks.
You're only a success for the moment that you complete a successful act. - Tex Winter
Tweetness
I was quoting Jason Sudeikis from Horrible Bosses...
…It means absolutely nothing lol… which is why it’s funny….
"Where Yo Curleh Mustache at!?"
"Lebron joins teams with his friends; Kobe’s enemies join teams with him." -Gil Meriken
I need to watch that lol.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
by douchiedude on Dec 10, 2011 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
I don't know whats weirder,
The fact that you’re going this far off tangent on a Lakers CP3 thread or the fact that you named your package “The 50 States.” HAHAH :P
Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
LOL!
thiiiiiiis guy ahahaha!
Have you seen Horrible Bosses?? That’s where that line is from… It means absolutely nothing…. which is why it is so funny….
"Where Yo Curleh Mustache at!?"
"Lebron joins teams with his friends; Kobe’s enemies join teams with him." -Gil Meriken
Yeah I have haha, but I don't recall the line.
Was really disappointed with that movie honestly. My expectations were a tad too high.
Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
yea, I know what you mean..
…it did have its moments though..
"Where Yo Curleh Mustache at!?"
"Lebron joins teams with his friends; Kobe’s enemies join teams with him." -Gil Meriken
indeed
"Where Yo Curleh Mustache at!?"
"Lebron joins teams with his friends; Kobe’s enemies join teams with him." -Gil Meriken
Lol, I didn’t like the movie that much but that part was funny.
by jnguyen0390 on Dec 10, 2011 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
That woman is disgusting in more ways than one.
Leaving Jimmer Fredette open for 3 is like leaving Brad Pitt alone with your wife. You know he's gonna hit it.
by RA37thriller on Dec 10, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
Yah but she's still pretty hot and
I don’t wanna be with her just you know go a round or two with her =D I’ll be Mayweather and she can be Ortiz I’ll finish things while she’s not paying attention
seriously?
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
well, the media has made them a spectacle yes
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
David Stern gets to sample the product that is coming to the Hornets?
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
LOL
I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot.- Kobe Bryant
A.J. Burnett's only fan!
@stevekylernba
Expect Lakers Devin Ebank and Derrick Caracter to be packed into Paul deal with Emeka Okafor heading to the Lakers.
That’s it? ROFL.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
stupid Stern...
"I promise you, we’re going to build a dictating, dominating, attacking defense. I’ve said it a million times. It’s not a slight on our offense, but we’re not going to win any world championship until we have that." - A.J. Smith
keep him as a good backup to d12
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
lmao thats what I kept doing in trade machine lol
Mitch has been tracking my cpu o_O
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
lol
I’d like to know how much help is the trade machine for the GMs
THE POWER OF SHAW COMPELS YOU.. THE POWER OF SHAW COMPELS YOU.....
I'd imagine they all have programs that help them determine if the numbers add up.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
LOL
Ebanks and Ariza on the same team!
The PuertoRican Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 10, 2011 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
I swear I thought about that last night
how awkward. Ariza and Ariza lite
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
wow lol I was actually thinking DC but that's what nixed the deal..
Stern is a jackass but hey it looks like this deal is going thru now on to D12
Da Bears....enuff said
Caracter is going to be in ihop non stop
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
I heard his back is giving him a lot of trouble
So I think the Lakers could ask him to retire and join the coaching staff.
---
Revenge is ice cream.
yes please
ClaYton Kershaw, Giant Killa | KeMVP #BEASTMODE
"If the 49ers success offends you, so be it." - Jim Harbaugh
he is doing great coaching at Memphis
he should stay there :)
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
Stern imperiled the future of the NBA so the Hornets could get Ebanks and Caracter?
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
he needs to save face.
he should retire now. fisher, walton, stern. all of them. lol
THE POWER OF SHAW COMPELS YOU.. THE POWER OF SHAW COMPELS YOU.....
LMAO
Dammit he knows that Caracter was giving us that IHOP endorsement
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
you realize after 2-3 years of constant ihop food
Caracter is going to be greater than Shaq, Jordan, Kobe, and Pistol Pete combined?!!?
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
On the flipside, maybe he saw the gaping frontcourt hole we'd be getting after the trade.
Hence Okafor getting included this time around. LULZ.
I hope this package goes through.
After it’s finalized… then I’ll laugh :P
Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
oh wow, lmao
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
Lamar Odom - "Half Swiss-Army knife, half Pez-dispenser" Meriones
LMAO
I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot.- Kobe Bryant
A.J. Burnett's only fan!
Pau Gasol
Buenos días a tod@s! De camino al entrenamiento… Good morning everyone! On my way to practice…
lol he'll be in for a rude awakening when he gets there
"I promise you, we’re going to build a dictating, dominating, attacking defense. I’ve said it a million times. It’s not a slight on our offense, but we’re not going to win any world championship until we have that." - A.J. Smith
he'll have a chance to say goodbye
THE POWER OF SHAW COMPELS YOU.. THE POWER OF SHAW COMPELS YOU.....
I actually feel sorry for him though, I love the guy
"I promise you, we’re going to build a dictating, dominating, attacking defense. I’ve said it a million times. It’s not a slight on our offense, but we’re not going to win any world championship until we have that." - A.J. Smith
Why do you feel sorry?
He got rings and recognition and he has a good contract. Don’t be sorry be thankful he was a Laker, along with Odom.
I will always appreciate him and while I do feel sorry for him that he is no longer Purple and Gold
He is still a Laker to me!
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
Hopefully he'll get a chance to play with his bro next year...
HOU has the cap space. He and LO will always be Lakers (n spirit)
One Raider/Laker Nation...under a groove.
Laker Nation stand up!
by Zen and Tonic on Dec 10, 2011 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
poor guy
Soon will be on way to airport. (knock on wood)
The PuertoRican Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 10, 2011 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
Pau
has the right attitude about the whole thing, IMO. He is getting paid no matter where he is playing ball at. I think Houston has some good players around him as well. They could sneak into the playoffs with all the young legs that they have. ….hmmm maybe not:
PG Lowry, Flynn
SG Lee, Williams
SF Budinger, Patterson, Parsons
PF Gasol, Morris, Hill
C Dalembert, Thabeet
They have some pieces but….think they need some of their young guys to mature a bit before they make any noise in the playoffs.
i think they're also
going to make a run at nene. dalembert would be plan b or c
by mr. eggplant on Dec 10, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
The little brother is also
a pretty good possibility. I’m sure they’ll throw a max offer his way just to see if Memphis match and if not they’ve got the Spanish national frontcourt being baller together. Also having a tandem of the most talented big man brother pair ever
I'd love to see a Gasol frontcourt dominate (everyone but LA)
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
oh he is
I have no doubt he has secretly declared a vendetta against Kupchak. One day when our GM is burying something away from the eyes of god and men in his backyard, Pau will strike him from the shadows and claim his vengeance.
/bertuccio
Maybe I'll just fade into Bolivian
A conversation I’ve had with the other Dreamshake guys, and something I’ve wondered….
I’m pretty certain if you get Okafor, you probably won’t get Howard, as the math won’t add up. You guys think I’m an idiot, or what would you say about that?
Minnesotan Rockets fan
We would trake Okafor to the Magic? I don't know
The PuertoRican Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 10, 2011 10:30 AM PST up reply actions
My perspective is that at the end of the day, salary cap room still matters - I cite both New York and Miami.
With Okafor, Paul, Kobe, your bench scrubs ( Fisher, Artest, Walton, and Blake), you’ll easily be over it, and getting to the appropriate spending level is crucial. Howard won’t play with you guys for the MLE.
Not meaning to troll, just getting some perspective.
Minnesotan Rockets fan
It was never a possibility that we would sign Dwight in free agency.
Since we’re over the cap by like $30 million. Was always a trade scenario.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Oh, I hadn't realized that. I had figured you would try to clear cap room for that.
But frankly, yes I know it’s LA, glamour and stuff, but given what a disaster our attempt to get Bosh was in 2010 was ( and we tried it the exact same way that it looks like you’re trying to get Howard), I don’t think that plan is going to work.
Minnesotan Rockets fan
We wanted Bosh?
Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
He's a Houston fan. Morey tried hard to recruit Bosh in 2010.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Ahhhh
Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
*Shrug*
Always a long shot when you’re talking about big trade scenarios. Considering that Orlando’s next best offer is Brook Lopez and what will become two garbage picks at the end of the first round, I’m comfortable offering Bynum.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
you guys should be happy you didn't get Bosh
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
Why would they want Okafor and Bynum?
Seems pretty redundant. I think it would make sense (if they can’t get Howard) if they package Bynum + Odom, get back Okafor with Paul and keep Gasol.
So they have a backup in case Drew goes down again?
by jnguyen0390 on Dec 10, 2011 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
Bynum is still the second best center (maybe 3rd if we count Pau as a center)
and having a backup while possibly dumping Turk’s contract on us
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
it's easy for us to throw in a few players
and them throw in Turk and us make it happen
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
Man I have been losing sleep the past few days over this mess
I wake up hoping that I see on ESPN that the trade went down. I guess its hard to be a Lakers fan sometimes. Some of us are tied emotionally to this team……. I guess its like how Kobe said, its the nature of the Beast………..
I have a bad headache, and its for BASKETBALL REASONS
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"I guess its hard to be a Lakers fan sometimes. "
Lol, please. You have no idea what hard is like. The Lakers are always babied by the league and this is the first time you don’t get what you want.
"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald
by WarriorForLife on Dec 10, 2011 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
likewise cldpc
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
"These are young men with too much money and too much fame for something as relatively inconsequential as sports, but this is entertainment." --Phil Jackson
by lakerdynasty on Dec 10, 2011 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
ah yes. thank you
"These are young men with too much money and too much fame for something as relatively inconsequential as sports, but this is entertainment." --Phil Jackson
by lakerdynasty on Dec 10, 2011 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
I support the Warriors when they aren't playing the Lakers, but c'mon,
00 – 5th overall Mike Miller
01 – 5th overall Jason Richardson & 14th overall Troy Murphy
02 – 3rd overall Mike Dunleavy & 16th overall Jiri Welsh (Who the hell?)
03 – 11th overall Mickael Pietrus
04 – 11th overall Andris Biedrins
05 – 9th overall Ike Diogu
06 – 9th overall Patrick O’Bryant
07 – 8th overall Brandon Wright & 18th overall Marco Belinelli
08 – 14th overall Anthony Randolph
C’mon. Look at those names. It’s not the Lakers fault that the Warriors sucked :P
Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 12:40 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
If you guys read closely, I actually never said anything about the Warriors sucking or not.
My point is none of you should be complaining that things didn’t go your way this time around, especially since everything seems to go your way anyway.
"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald
by WarriorForLife on Dec 10, 2011 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
His point is
you shouldn’t be coming on here to complain about it.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
by douchiedude on Dec 10, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
He's probably right that I shouldnt come here to complain about it.
Honestly, I only came here to see what you guys thought about the CP3 trade drama. I had no intention on even saying anything until I read the “I guess its hard to be a Lakers fan sometimes” part. That was really laughable to me. You guys have it best in the league, and as much as you wanna deny it, the League babies you. You have never had it hard, and the first time something goes wrong you cry about it. Smh.
"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald
by WarriorForLife on Dec 10, 2011 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
Provide one example of babying,
I’m listening. Everything the Lakers have ever done would be perfectly fine for any other team with the same assets to do.
Or crying, for that matter. I don't see anyone crying here.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
by douchiedude on Dec 10, 2011 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
In fact, you're doing the crying.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
by douchiedude on Dec 10, 2011 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
See below.
Not trading, officiating.
"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald
by WarriorForLife on Dec 10, 2011 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
Every fan of a losing team will find enough officiating to complain about.
Don’t think the Lakers are somehow the most preferred of the 30 teams.
cal. lakers. dodgers. packers. chelsea.
vols. rangers. galaxy.
It's like other fans
crying about USC getting calls. They’ve been the most penalized team in the Pac since Pete took over.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
And here you go continuing to do it.
I don’t go to a Niners blog about how easy the Niners have had it pre-Alex Smith era withe the quarterbacks you’ve had lined up just because my team sucks horribly. It’s good management. You can call it whatever you want.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
by douchiedude on Dec 10, 2011 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
Fuck the Niners.
"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald
by WarriorForLife on Dec 10, 2011 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
You make your own "luck" in this world.
With the exception of Darth Stern coming in to nix a legit trade while not touching tamperers … you can blame LA being great on … LA BEING GREAT.
Even Bill Simmons recognizes this.
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
It's hard to be a Warriors fan,
because of people who whine and whine about how unfair the league is. The Lakers don’t get babied at all. Go somewhere else.
Lakers don't get babied?
Maybe since you’re a Laker fan you don’t see it, but the Lakers get babied the most. It’s really not that hard to see from a non-Laker fan perspective.
"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald
by WarriorForLife on Dec 10, 2011 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
No, they don't.
Maybe since you’re a Laker hater you don’t see it, but the Lakers don’t get babied the most. It’s really not that hard to see from a non-Laker hater perspective.
cal. lakers. dodgers. packers. chelsea.
vols. rangers. galaxy.
Lakers make moves that are within the rules of the league
to get where they are. The league doesn’t give any one or any team any advantages. Feel free to give me an example of all the babying the league does. They don’t exist. As a resident of Northern California, I’ve had this conversation a million and a half times. Fans who love something that isn’t successful will often times right off other teams’ success in order to make themselves feel better. It’s sad.
I'm not talking trades or anything.
I’m talking officiating. 2002 playoffs is really all the evidence you need. But trust that you can see it night in and night out in an Laker game.
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by WarriorForLife on Dec 10, 2011 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
Are you kidding me?
They get no calls their way ever since Kobe became the most hated person in the league. You clearly haven’t seen a Lakers game in years.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
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by douchiedude on Dec 10, 2011 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
LOL.
“No calls.” I’m officially out of here after that statement.
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by WarriorForLife on Dec 10, 2011 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
Then GTFO already.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
by douchiedude on Dec 10, 2011 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
Like you have the right to officially declare when you are no longer welcome.
GTFO, and enjoy your time alone with yourself, troll.
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2002 Playoffs were sooo rigged
Game by game breakdown of the freethrows
Game 1: 22-17 Lakers
Game 2: 25-38 Kings
Game 3: 15-35 Kings
Game 4: 27-26 Lakers
Game 5: 23-33 Kings
Game 6: 40-25 Lakers
Game 7: 33-30 Lakers
Tally: 185-204 Kings. Damn, those lucky ass Lakers. Please feel free to add in that that’s with the Lakers having Shaq, who was often intentionally fouled. Please, do leave. I know people enjoy finding reasons why their teams fail and others’ succeed, but you don’t have any factual basis behind what you’re saying.
You moron
How about you go watch those games again and don’t rely on Stats.
Dumb logic.
Aren’t stats the results of the game that was played? It’s all there in the stats. If you were to watch the game again you would see 185 free throws for the Lakers and 204 free throws for the Kings. The hell?
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
What if the other team was fouling intentionally?
Like for instance, Shaq.
So they were fouling intentionally and YET the Lakers still shot less free throws.
Huuuuuuh?
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
Let's play this game,
despite the fact Afrika already explained why that logic’s faulty. I’d see game 2, in which the Kings got 35 free throws, and Kobe and Shaq-two premier players in the league-shot 8. 2 for Kobe. Both of whom took over 20 shots.
Totally willing to accept that Lakers got lucky calls in game 6. But other than that game, the Lakers didn’t have any kind of significant edge in free throws, despite having two premier players who have always drawn a large amount of fouls. I’m not willing to accept that the Lakers win that series because of being babied by the referees when through the first 5 games the other team had 37 more free throws. I’m not willing to accept that the game is somehow rigged at all. The underlying problem here isn’t that the “Lakers are babied” it’s that home teams are given more foul calls than other teams. It’s a referee issue, not a league or team issue.
You are probably gone but..
Just some stats for ya…The Lakers were 5th in the league in Foul differential last year. So 4 other teams had it more “babied” then the Lakers.
Maybe they got more FTs then any other team? Nope they came in 17th in Fts taken.
I don’t know…I think this is a “star’s league”. The stars definately get the calls over the regular Joes. But that is nothing new in the league. And lately there have been quite a few teams other then the Lakers that have been getting those same calls. Maybe its a myth that the Lakers are being “babied” by the league.
I can tell you what he will say.
When other teams “get away with fouls”, it is because they didn’t really foul. When the Lakers get away with fouls, it is because the officials baby them.
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you do realize that any team pounding it in the paint over and over
will get more fouls than a 3 point shooting team. The more aggressive team gets fouled more.
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I agree completely..
and a team up at the end of the game by less then 10 get fouled repeatedly as well. So a team winning alot of games hypothetically would get the advantage here as well.
There are a number of reasons why the Lakers would get more fouls then the opposing team.
You can gripe about the calls (I liked the Kings but still was cheering for my Lakers back then)
You do not gripe about calls when on your home floor in Game 7 you go 2-20 from three point land and 16-30 from FT
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There's no problem in saying you see babying. BUT...
The Lakers have one of the highest payrolls yet give money back in luxury tax and still made a profit. The brand value and history of dominance is not simply a result of being babied. They obtain and use their pieces to make a play for more great players and perpetuate the legacy. Conspiracy theorists can’t explain that all away. Who wants to help the Lakers (other than great players who want to play for them)? No one. Our owner and FO is the shit..pure and simple.
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by Zen and Tonic on Dec 10, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
babied by the league?
Come on get real
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lol
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Rumors of Okafor to LA have be rampant since the original trade got blocked – don’t have confirmation yet but could be natural move,/blockquote>
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Wouldnt mind getting Okafor
But I guess we cant flip him to another team for a few months or so. But I guess he would be used to acquire another piece.
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Okafor is a great backup we could use him.
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Does getting Okafor really kill the chances of getting Dwight this season?
If so, I can see now why this would probably get approved.
Not really. The Lakers are banking on just Bynum being an attractive option for Orlando either way.
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Would we just swap centers?
Who else would we give up…?
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No clue.
But unlike the CP3 thing with the Hornets being league owned, Dwight could actually force his way to LA and the Magic would have to accept whatever we offered.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
can anyone tell me about okafor's defense?
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he does great with cp3
seeing it up close against us, they have a ton of chemistry.
Just please LA don’t take NO’s Oak Tree + number 4 stupid banner scrolling. Saw way too much of that during game 4
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LOL, yeah just look up how Kobe dunked on him last season in the Playoffs
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Yeah D12 was a rookie, Okafor is a 7 year vet who got dunked on by an old man with an bad ankle
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He is a solid defender, though.
Hard worker who knows he makes his money on that side of the ball.
by jnguyen0390 on Dec 10, 2011 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
Solid. Blocks shots, protects the rim, good positional defender.
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That's practically all he is and rebounding.
No offensive game.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
Nah, he's okay on that end. Mechanical post game, but generally solid around the basket.
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he's great as a non option.
He cleans up the offensive boards, and CP3 always seems to find him for easy dunks.
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I find that hilarious, but thats unlikely
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LOL if Ebanks and Ariza are on the same team. Someone can do an NBA twins lost at birth and reunited via NBA trade story.
ROFL.
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by Ben R on Dec 10, 2011 10:34 AM PST reply actions 3 recs
LOL what the hell
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Emeka could realistically back up Howard...
solves our problem at the 5 ..wonder if the deal the Lakers had for a pf is still in the works? There werent any details leaked so im not sure who it was or if it was even true
Da Bears....enuff said
I can't think of what PF out there was avaliable
Except Josh Smith, and I find that highly unlikely………
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Turk in the D12 trade
Although I like him more as a 3. However, MWP and Turk could play the 4 in a small ball showtime type game
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I think we would put both Okafor and Bynum out there as a twin tower lineup and make Bynum play more in the high post.
Awkward but it could work.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
I mean if we can't D12 then I guess Bynum would have to show us why he is here
But he is going to miss the first 5 games though
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That would be a good defensive lineup
Bynum has been working on his game out to the free throw line extended so it’s not that much of a stretch to see it…Emeka does give us a capable back up in any worst case scenario tho
Da Bears....enuff said
Yeah, Brown wants to run more double block sets and things like that, so it's not a stretch to think that it could work.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
With that lineup we're definitely gonna need some shooters to space the floor
Or consistency from Metta assuming we dont get TA from houston and give him the amnesty ax
Da Bears....enuff said
Well Ebanks and Caracter were cool peeps to watch
Whenever they got on the floor, but I like this year’s crop of rookies a little more
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but we're now overloaded at the guards spot
kobe, cp3, fish, blake, morris, goud…
unless mike brown wants to play a dual PG system
i envision using dish at the off guard spot, backing up kobe.
so realistically it’ll be CP3, Blake and Morris at the 1 and Kobe, Fish and Goudelock at the 2.
lmao
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
I think someone will be gone out that group
Not Morris, or Dfish, that leaves Blake………… Peace homie
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I like Ebanks,
as WVU is my 2nd team :(
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
by douchiedude on Dec 10, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
Emeka could realistically back up Howard...
solves our problem at the 5 ..wonder if the deal the Lakers had for a pf is still in the works? There werent any details leaked so im not sure who it was or if it was even true
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We could use the Sasha exception on Jason Maxiell
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
He is like 6'8??
Are we playing small ball now??
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Maxiell: The Baby Eater?
Wasn’t that a meme a while back? I guess having a baby eater with MWP would really hit the bar for crazy
Is that Basketball Reasonable enough?
Broussard was saying this morning that ORL waned Bynum AND Pau.
If that’s true, then I’d rather throw Bynum at Houston and Odom to NO and keep Pau to play alongside Okafor.
CP3
Kobe
Metta
Pau
Okafor
I’d ride into battle with that 5 any game. Okafor gives us as many points and boards as Bynum, and is physically more durable. Pau’s skill set is almost irreplaceable on offense.
I’d MUCH rather have CP3-Pau-Okafor than CP3-D12-gaping hole at PF.
M
"It's not who you are underneath. It's what you DO that defines you."
Orlando's next best offer is Brook Lopez and two crap picks. Asking for Bynum/Gasol is just step one in negotiating.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Exactly.
Lopez isn’t a guy you can even build around, because he’s a volume scorer in the post, and not an efficient one, at that.
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by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
If he and his brother were ONE....
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by Zen and Tonic on Dec 10, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
They'd still be 2/3rds of a proper center.
And this is coming from a Suns (and Lakers) fan.
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Bynum and Gasol??
What are they smoking???
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exactly
thats the reason people figured we couldn’t get CP3 because NO didn’t want Pau straight up, so I wouldn’t be surprised if we find a workaround
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
I just feel like the Magic are not at liberty to reach that high
Its like he wants to come here, heres what we have, take it or leave it. He could go to Brooklyn, win some games, but they will not win a Championship
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Agreed it's jsut a negotiating level. But I'd rather send them Bynum and Odom than lose Gasol entirely.
Gasol can play off either D12 or Okafor if needed. And he’s an outstanding 2-man game with Kobe, and could play pick and roll with CP3 no problem.
HATE the idea of losing Pau. He’s an instant, unconventional matchup problem for opponents.
"It's not who you are underneath. It's what you DO that defines you."
Gasol either had a bad series in the playoff, or regressed
I’d rather try something new.
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Yeah I know
Im going to miss the Spainard. He was great for us, I have a feeling he will come back after his contract ends though. Either that, or he will suck so bad in Houston that they would buy him out and he comes back like that lol
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Yeah, I think LO is more probable than Pau
He was devastated. .
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Isn't there a new rule preventing that now, though?
The whole getting bought out and coming back to your old team thing, I mean.
It’s not gonna happen in any case anyway, lol.
No, they have to wait 30 days to do that.
I remember when the Cavs traded Big Z to the Wizards, he chilled for 30 days and went back to the Cavs
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That's fair, although I'd rather keep the younger of the pair in Drew.
And keep the option for a Howard trade alive. Agree that losing Pau sucks, but that’s the cost of getting a top five player.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
depends on how realistic it is for us to end up with dwight
otherwise we’d get bynum and okafor and a huge hole at the 4
As I noted above, it's not unrealistic that we could march out Okafor and Bynum in the same frontcourt.
It’s an awkward pairing, but it works defensively and you’d hope having Paul smooths some of the edges offensively.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
we have three real trade chips
not having Bynum/Odom means the last trade chip is Pau and whoever else we get in this trade
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yeah
houston’s had enough injury prone big men for a while
by mr. eggplant on Dec 10, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
No, that was just the deadline set by the NBPA before they started to sue the shit out of the league.
League can approve this today.
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They are going to take all night watch
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Oh god, i hope not.
I need to sleep!
by keithsweatshirt on Dec 10, 2011 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
Where are you guys?
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la
But I work night shift. I was having a hard time because I was checking my phone all night for any updates…
by keithsweatshirt on Dec 10, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
Yes it does
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Darth Stern is currently using force choke on himself
and is drinking Lakers fans tears.
He’ll get around to you later
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this is taking to long lol
I need to sleep. later
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gots to stay awake!
Can’t miss any of this potential history happening!
by keithsweatshirt on Dec 10, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
Im trying to stay awake as well
But I have been losing sleep the past few days over this mess
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Yer tellin me!
Stay awake all day refreshing and following twitter even though I hate it! Goin to work at night…
The past few days has been rinse and repeat for me..I’m almost spent!
by keithsweatshirt on Dec 10, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
I just heard that Kobe is in his chopper on his way to the NO
Gotta give CP3 the Brett Favre treatment
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LOL!!!!!!!!
hahaha oh man that cracked me up
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if this goes through
i’m going to enjoy watching devin “basketball reasons” ebanks get some playing time
LMAO
KDonhoops: The Lakers are going to be issuing camp invites to Slava Medevenko and Antonio Harvey by the end of today, at this point. [via Twitter]
please let it be so!
Invite the space cadet too!
by keithsweatshirt on Dec 10, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
The return of Slava??
Might as well bring back KWAME BROWN (in my Steven A voice) and Smush Parker lol
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Wouldn't mind Kwame as a backup. Would be hilarious to see him back in town.
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maybe we can package him for a Marc Gasol?
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by Bard in Black on Dec 10, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
LOL, and Brian Cook
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According to Dwyer
the Lakers also don’t need a PG, just someone to run the offense right… I don’t think he realized we’re not running the triangle anymore and the position has been a net 0
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That guy is an idiot. Doesn't know jack.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
its Dwyer
the only man more moronic than Broussard
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 2:37 PM PST up reply actions
@DevonNBA
Sources saying that the Lakers might have landed Emeka Okafor in three-team trade with HOU and NO.
Getting confirmed by more outlets.
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Thats it??? Just Okafor???
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Well, no. Obviously we're still getting Paul. Okafor is added on to the previous deal.
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lol
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by Zen and Tonic on Dec 10, 2011 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
"Sources say"
I’m starting to be skeptical of that statement…
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It was pretty funny Friday
When Woj said it was Bynum and Pau for CP3 everyone else repeated it quoting “sources”
So either they all had the same “source” of their source was Woj
don't post link in the title
but otherwise, nothing really new there. just a summary of what we know so far
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by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 10:55 AM PST reply actions
I would love to keep Odom honestly =(
Favorite player on the team not named Kobe.
I love Odom, but he would proably just go in a D12 trade
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
For a rich guy living in LA, i think he prefer NO
Orl has Disney World that technically isn’t even in Orlando
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
NO is a nice place
and that town loves those players. Yes its a Saints town, but there was a LOT of love for the Hornets there. Hell there was a little old lady who was going to use her cane on Kobe’s ankle so he could stop pretending it was hurt.
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Gives us a better chance at gaining a return F of some sort
since we just got EXTREMELY thin up front. Would suck but Id feel better about that losing him for a PG
Okafor wasn't in the original trade
"I promise you, we’re going to build a dictating, dominating, attacking defense. I’ve said it a million times. It’s not a slight on our offense, but we’re not going to win any world championship until we have that." - A.J. Smith
I saw that too how incredible would that be
"I promise you, we’re going to build a dictating, dominating, attacking defense. I’ve said it a million times. It’s not a slight on our offense, but we’re not going to win any world championship until we have that." - A.J. Smith
Unlikely, but if we give up just Pau for Paul and Okafor, that's a fucking steal.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
how can Stern possible approve that,
cant stay away. tsk
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Tweetness
It appears to be happening
"I promise you, we’re going to build a dictating, dominating, attacking defense. I’ve said it a million times. It’s not a slight on our offense, but we’re not going to win any world championship until we have that." - A.J. Smith
Lakers likely taking Okafor back in the deal, Houston sending out same pieces, Ebanks and Caracter might be heading to NO.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
yep might be just
Pau, Ebanks, and Character
"I promise you, we’re going to build a dictating, dominating, attacking defense. I’ve said it a million times. It’s not a slight on our offense, but we’re not going to win any world championship until we have that." - A.J. Smith
not according to "Sources"
"I promise you, we’re going to build a dictating, dominating, attacking defense. I’ve said it a million times. It’s not a slight on our offense, but we’re not going to win any world championship until we have that." - A.J. Smith
Odom will be in the deal
or kobe will be( sarcasm, but really no way odom won’t be included)
Stern is fucking stupid
If he approves this deal, he just allowed us to land D12 fo sho!
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So I can actually get my hopes up?
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Tweetness
Sure, why not
"I promise you, we’re going to build a dictating, dominating, attacking defense. I’ve said it a million times. It’s not a slight on our offense, but we’re not going to win any world championship until we have that." - A.J. Smith
Despite the absurdness of Gilbert's letter
I think he nailed the problem the league had with the deal, which was all of the cap space opened up. If we dont get Howard, Okafor will be a huge help, but it also makes getting Dwight much harder.
Why? Our offer after the original deal and after this one would have been Bynum and pieces. That hasn't changed.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
I think they were afraid that with all the capspace opened up
We would try to get him in FA. Kind of stupid, but I dont see how it affects the trade scenario. It is the only way I see the new deal making any difference.
I would be excited with this deal. I like Okafor, and he is a fine starting center when the eventual Bynum injury comes around.
We definitely wouldn't have opened up enough cap space. We're $30 million over the cap and would have to get $15 million below the cap to have a shot at signing Howard straight-up.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Amnestying MWP as well plus getting Walton to retire?
I really have no clue. Just trying to find any logic to stern’s reasoning here.
Still, we would have had to fill the hole at the four, sign backups, etc.
Kobe and Paul alone account for nearly $50 million and the cap is at $58 million.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
To me
the original veto was a powerplay. But, that doesn’t make sense now that the Hornets are just getting worse. I don’t even know.
this, powerplay
a shot at star players, and a bit of punishment aimed at cp3
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
As for Stern, I don't think logic was high on his list here.
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wait why? he stated that we were opening up cap space, which is what the league wanted
to reduce overspenders like us. But now thats bad cause we pay less luxury tax which gets spread around. ok….
next: he says we would add pieces → which then increases our luxury tax, again!. huh…. contradictory much?
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Don't know if anyone has posted this tweet yet, but:
KDonhoops:
RT @BobSaietta: LA’s sending crates of Botox to NO for CP3 @KBergCBS Unclear how league directive that NOLA get younger would be satisfied.
Not sure if that’s what Stern meant by getting NO younger through the deal.
by Hokkun on Dec 10, 2011 11:02 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I'm getting a late start this morning...
Does anybody know the exact pieces proposed under this “new” trade? Is it substantially different in any way that would even marginally validate Stern’s prior edict or is it one of those wire the money straight to Dn Gilbert’s Cayman account kind of things?
Once again, it's much too late.
Celtics fan here
don’t kill me, but I’m thinking that the change in the trade might be Bynum instead of Okafor. Note that Woj’s tweet didn’t include Odom in the list of guys who are still confirmed to be switching teams.
This way, you guys still have a power forward instead of two guys who are strictly centers. It also qualifies as more “young talent” for NO. I’m saying all of this as objectively as possible… will be interesting to see what happens.
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Tweetness
if it is, I could see why he noted himself as a Celtics fan
and if it is, can I curbstomp him?
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Apparently were trading Caracter and Ebanks
I highly doubt we’re giving up both Gasol and Bynum unless Mitch already has the D12 deal in place
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
I just don't see understand
how Stern would possibly think that including Caracter and Ebanks for Okafor makes this a better deal for NO. If you guys are keeping Bynum, this deal would actually be way better than the initial deal.
Unless of course you see Caracter and Ebanks as “young talent” but uhhh….
Yeah,
tbh every one’s confused. I don’t want to sound too much like a homer, but I really doubt Mitch would make the trade giving up Bynum+Gasol. He’s generally smarter than that. I don’t have any idea what Dell Demps or David Stern’s reasoning is in all this.
the "getting younger" statment by stern is just his way of trying to wipe his ass
so that a revised deal can be made and he can approve of it. at this point, i think he just wants this fiasco over with (once the deal is approved) and move on.
Caracter and Ebanks are young talent
and Caracter already has some solid ties in NO. There is a certain ihop on Canal St that is his favorite place to eat.
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I don't know...
If that’s the case, who would he have sealed the deal for D12 with if both Gasol and Bynum were going to be traded for Paul?
LO for D12 straight up?
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I would have waited until Christmas.
But I agree, NBA is gonna take away all the time you could have devoted to your job. It’s better this way.
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Gasol is at Lakers practice
lol, poor Pau.
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not poor Gasol
He will be forever remembered as a great Laker who came in and helped us during a very dominant 3 year period with 2 championships. He will be remembered as the lovable llama!
And now he gets to go party on Bourbon St
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Man, I don't even understand
I feel like the Hornets’ end of the deal got worse, and the Lakers’ got better. I’m okay with that, but what was the big issue before? We’d have been losing payroll because we gave up good players. I’m more and more confused by what the hell the league was thinking.
I'm just as confused too.
I feel like Mitch knows that the league has to accept the new trade because of the position that they put themselves in. I like this deal much better than the first one.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
Could be
There is just no way Stern vetoes this a second time. His head would be put on a stick and paraded around LA.
Yeah I really dont get this
Ebanks looked promising, but was he the dealbreaker in all this? Caracter sure wasnt, and our PF depth got even worse.
Well guys its been real
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If Mitch really does pull this off, as in,
ends up getting us CP3 and Dwight… I gotta say he might be in the running for best Laker exec period. First Gasol and now possibly CP3 and Dwight, just plain filthy.
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NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 11:08 AM PST reply actions
He should get a statue before shaq and kareem
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Tough to beat the great Jerry West.
Ball don't lie.
by East.Coast.Laker.Fan on Dec 10, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
Send a GM jersey up to the rafters at Staples Center
Why not? They’ve got a Chick Hearn jersey up there…
Is that Basketball Reasonable enough?
if he pulls this off
I’d give him a retired jersey easy
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@Dan_Cabana To prevent the Lakers from having to start Artest, Walton, Steve Blake and Kobe at the 3 on opening night. [via Twitter]
It was a joke, in response to this tweet
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by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
Wow I thought he was older than that
Could be an ok end of the bench guy, especially if Caracter is gone and we are down to no PFs.
It the steady diet of vodka, rare bison meat, and cigars
Premature aging
Is that Basketball Reasonable enough?
;it may give you an old appearance
but that shit will keep you young on the inside
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vodka keeps you young!
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lies
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"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Will reserve judgment until the particulars are revealed.
If this trade goes down.
At the end of the day, we’re giving a lot for a guy based on a 6 game sample. His regular season #s were his worst in 4 years. Plus, he needs the ball. How is that going to mesh with Kobe? That’s one guy you cannot afford to piss off or you’re gonna lose the locker room.
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"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."
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by TrojanRam on Dec 10, 2011 11:14 AM PST via mobile reply actions
how would you stop a Kobe CP3 pick and roll with CP3 handling the ball?
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[drools]
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Uhh he's a pass first PG, he needs the ball so he can set up his teamates to score easier
By using that logic then we should have kept Fisher, CP3 is Kobe’s “dear friend” he’ll have no problem.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
No we needed a PG upgrade for sure, but more of the catch and shoot type.
Plus, being “dear friends” doesn’t mean you can play well together over the course of a season.
"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."
"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."
-Kobe Bryant
Chris Mortensen: "You know it's the 'Show-Me' State right Sam?"
"Pshh, 'Show Me.' (smirking) Yeah, I've heard that."
-Sam Bradford
by TrojanRam on Dec 10, 2011 11:19 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
The triangle is gone so a catch and shoot pg isnt needed
We need a more traditional PG to run the offense and adding Paul frees up Kobe to play off the ball more plus Paul can create shots for everybody else including himself which in turn makes the entire team better on the offensive end
Da Bears....enuff said
kobe likes to score more so than dominate the ball
cp3 dominates the ball but not a volume scorer. kobe’s been complaining for years that he has to be the primary playmaker and can’t concentrate on scoring
Kobe's a good cutter,
and Chris Paul creates openings and lanes for other people. Additionally, Kobe can be a post option more often now that he won’t have as many ball-handling responsibilities. It’s not a perfect fit, but I only see Kobe doing better with Paul, at least efficiency-wise.
chris Paul has been in the league far longer than 6 games
and been excellent
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"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Hope he doesn't retire
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
RT @HowardBeckNYT: Also official now: Knicks waive Chauncey Billups under amnesty provision (STILL A BIT SURREAL)
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 11:18 AM PST reply actions
I feel bad for chauncey
Dude has been jerked around so much. At the same time, he has been overrated for years.
Yeah, but
being overrated isn’t his fault. I’ve always really respected the guy. Tough, confident, total professional. Not an unbelievable talent, but a guy I would’ve liked to have had as a Laker any day.
I don't think he's overrated to be honest
He’s been a leader even when he wasn’t the best player on the team, and he’s got ice water in his veins.
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
he's also been a horrid decision maker
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
yes
but i saw another rumor saying they would gladly take either, and Odom is easier to steal from the Lakers than Pau
by miamigirl54 on Dec 10, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
Wait so I may have missed it...
…Is Fish getting traded also??
"Where Yo Curleh Mustache at!?"
"Lebron joins teams with his friends; Kobe’s enemies join teams with him." -Gil Meriken
Who the hell would want him?
I seriously doubt he is getting traded, even in a minor deal for some cash or a 2nd rounder or something.
Ok its Broussard, but he did answer "Yes"
Chris_Broussard,WojYahooNBA so if Odom’s out does that open door for Odom and Bynum 4 Dwight?Someone asked him that btw if it wasn’t clear
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 11:21 AM PST reply actions
Dwight wants to go to the Nets
Magic just gave him official permission to talk to them.
by miamigirl54 on Dec 10, 2011 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
I'm not so sure he really wants to go to the Nets.
Ball don't lie.
by East.Coast.Laker.Fan on Dec 10, 2011 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
Always his buddy Deron Williams there
And they are moving to Brooklyn, new stadium and everything. As well as an owner who will spend a ton of money.
The whole tampering thing really slowed down that process
Also they reportedly offered Nene and Crawford contracts or at least in negotiations with Crawford
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
Old news, they might have tampered with him and they offered Nene a contract
And Crawford
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
Dallas would be interesting
Dirk and Dwight? wow
by miamigirl54 on Dec 10, 2011 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
Roddy Beaubois, Corey Brewer, and I believe they have some first rounders
Obviously not a great deal. Jason Terry as an expiring.
Their first rounders aren't going to mean much if they end up in the playoffs.
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Revenge is ice cream.
This is such a deep draft though
Guys as good as Kendall Marshall (very good passing PG) are projected to go early 2nd.
Kendall Marshall is awesome
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Crazy how different the NBA and NFL are.
A late first rounder in the NBA is practically worthless while a Superbowl MVP barely warranted a 5th rounder in the NFL.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
Football has a much larger team, though
For starters…
11 offense, 11 defense, + special teams
basketball—5 players
Still, smaller teams means more talent should go around then.
But that isn’t the case at all.
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NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
you have to be taller then 6'2 the majority of the time.
even more scarce is the over 6’8 player
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Nah
that’s not true. One individual has far more impact, so teams with the best players in the league will always be better despite a dispersion of talent. There aren’t enough franchise players on every team and there’s also less room for error with guaranteed contracts. There’s far more here than just team size
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Corey Brewer is more liability than asset
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Dallas is a long shot.
Their best hope is to sign him as FA. They can’t trade for him.
Affectionately,
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NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
Yep, Cuban shows his hand
The whole reason for his role in helping toss a monkey wrench into the original LA/HOU/NO deal was just to buy some time and give his own weasel ass a better shot at Dwight
Is that Basketball Reasonable enough?
but dallas has nothing to return for in dwight.
if Howard is open to comming to LA, then LA can offer the best returns to ORL. Unless HOward refuses to go anywhere aside from the Mavs (or Nets).
This isn’t free agency. The Magic do have a say on where Howard can go.
Maybe Cuban is relying on pure sneakiness
Banking on the outside chance that Dwight would want to to Dallas.
I don’t think it’s possible, but some people might.
Is that Basketball Reasonable enough?
He was given permission to talk to the Nets, Lakers and Mavericks I believe.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
why the hell would he want to go to the Nets?
Seriously, no talent besides Dwill, ooh new stadium that is already worse than the one in Orlando and Staples. Being the little brother in a town dominated by the worse team Knicks …
What is there in New Jersey other than failure?
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LMAO that's a good thing?!
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
This is so confusing
Why on earth would they make a deal where we get Okafor and they no longer get Odom? I think Broussard is just flat out wrong here.
He didn't exactly say Odom was staying tho
Also Woj included players that were still included for sure, and Odom was not on that list.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
So we are making a seperate deal with Odom?
Im still confused. NO seems to be getting a worse return every time.
Well the whole issue was that LA was clearing all this cap in this deal
And that NO should get younger pieces, if they get another draft pick and two young players they get that. Honestly, the league is just saving face at this point and I remember seeing an unamed exec saying he was feeling bad because they were gonna “lowball” someone in this ordeal.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
wait what happened? does anyone know the rumors of who is or isn't
included in the new trade proposal?
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I can actually see us getting a better deal (ie. keeping odom)
after being vetoed, it’s obvious everyone is going to lowball NO, who just desperately wants to get rid of CP3 at this point.
no way stern is going to reject the trade a second time round
Knicks just improved their position in the East
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Knicks make official the signing of Tyson Chandler.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 11:25 AM PST reply actions
4yr/ 60M???
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- A fan of the Warriors and Lakers.
Yeah after last years free agency,
A FA with headliners being Nene and Tyson Chandler is just depressing haha
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
They're good players though.
Seeing it as how centers are scarce in this league, its not surprising they’re wanted. Just paying way to much for them.
Wow he isn't even that good
"I promise you, we’re going to build a dictating, dominating, attacking defense. I’ve said it a million times. It’s not a slight on our offense, but we’re not going to win any world championship until we have that." - A.J. Smith
Nene is getting 17.5 a year offer from the Nets
Centers usually are overpaid
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
I'm thinking they've given up on thinking they could get Dwight.
So they want a true center in Nene and will flip Lopez and picks for some other low tier all star.
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NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
Nene can actually play PF too
which gives them a pretty good frontline of Lopez/Nene..alot of money but not a bad deal at all to get him
Da Bears....enuff said
It's a bad deal either way
far too much money
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Second or third best defensive center in the game.
Those guys don’t grow on trees, and it fills a huge need for the Knicks.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
They are gonna be better than the Celtics and Hawks this year
Unless either of them makes a big move (i.e David West). Could also be better than Bulls.
David West?
seriously, what the hell is up with this guy that everyone thinks the Celtics all of a sudden got that much better
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
This had to be the one most surprising moves this offseason
I actually think if they get a halfway decent PG they can make a run to the ECF
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
But Tyson is more of a need then Chauncey
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
True
But was he the only good candidate they had for amnesty? He was the best point they had at that point IMO.
They needed to amnesty him to make room for the deal.
That and send Turiaf to the Wizards for nothing.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
It was a complicated 3 team deal
Wizards, Mavs, Knicks.
Knicks sent away Turiaf, Rautins, cash, 2nd rounder and got Chandler and two former picks playing in Europe, one was Mavs and another was Wizards
Wizards got Turiaf, cash, 2nd rounder: Sent 2nd pick to dallas and a former draftee to Knicks
Dallas got: 2nd rounder and Andy Rautins, gave up one of the Euro dudes and Chandler
Yes he was his contract was worth 14.2 Mill
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
I wish it was possible too because that team would've been nice
But if they get a decent PG on the waiver wire they can be good
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
Very true.
Only brought this up because I was wondering why they’d release a good PG then proceed to look for another “decent” one. Just goes to show how little I know.
Knowledge is indeed power.
they still have Toney Douglas
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Thats what I'm saying
That Chandler move was a damn good move. It me be a bit much contract wise, but that was a smart move for basketball reasons
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
Their bench is a little weak, but their frontline is definitely better than Miami's.
I think Chicago, Miami, and New York will be the Top 3 in the East in that order.
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"-Wayne Gretzky"-Michael Scott.
by SharksFanEst.1994 on Dec 10, 2011 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
I'd say top spot would be between the Heat and Knicks.
Chicago hasn’t made any moves to improve and it is obvious that they overachieved last year.
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NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
grats they can now beat the Celtics and possibly the Bulls if Chandler can stay out of foul trouble
with Rose attacking the basket. Still will get rolled by Miami
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depends on defensive commitment
from their perimeter guys. they def have the better bigs combo as of right now
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Regardless of whether Odom no longer wants to be a Laker or not,
I’d be happy if in the end we were able to keep him. Pau and Houston’s package for CP3 and Bynum for Dwight.
CP3
Kobe
MWP
Odom
Howard
Very solid lineup.
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NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 11:28 AM PST reply actions
Very solid?
Best line-up in the league if you ask me
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"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius
Really doubt Odom stays though
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius
The only part that would piss me off is if Bynum is included in the CP3 deal.
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
I think I would do very bad things to people to end up with that lineup
I just don’t see how its possible.
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
We kept Odom?!
REALLY STERN!? LOL.
And can someone tell me why we can’t flip Okafor right away?
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
We could flip him right away.
But gotta see how the Dwight deal works out first. If anything Emeka could be flipped for assets to trade for Dwight since they wouldn’t want 2 centers. Or we could just hold onto him for depth.
Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
Or they might want to flip him for assets as well.
Thanks, some comments made it seem like we couldn’t trade him.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
by douchiedude on Dec 10, 2011 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
Love seeing a Rams' fan here.
!!!
Former LakersForDeuce: "The 2010 champs made me up the ante and change my name!"
by LakersForTrey on Dec 10, 2011 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
So we can share our depression, huh?
Gotta stick together :(
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
by douchiedude on Dec 10, 2011 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
Ab-So-Lute-Ly
Former LakersForDeuce: "The 2010 champs made me up the ante and change my name!"
by LakersForTrey on Dec 10, 2011 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
Haha nice siggy, but it should read,
Signed, Eagles fans – the most delusional fan base in the entire universe.
Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
Haha
he kept trying argue that Maclin was Better than Bruce. I couldn’t believe it…
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
by douchiedude on Dec 10, 2011 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
Just an FYI, I'm a 49er fan.
But those guys were so sold that Kolb was the next best QB in the league and clearly we know he sucks and has always sucked. Can’t even compete in the NFC West.
Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
I'm so jealous of Harbaugh, you have no idea.
Hate him as a USC AND Rams fan, but the man can coach. And yes, I was so happy when that trade went down, Kolb SUCKS.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
by douchiedude on Dec 10, 2011 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
He played in an Andy Reid pass happy system,
with McCoy, Jackson, Celek and Maclin, and still had a 70 passer rating. He sucks :P
Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, he sucks.
Carrying the tradition of bad Houston quarterbacks coming from good systems. I never once thought he was a good quarterback.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
by douchiedude on Dec 10, 2011 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
I thought
that if a player was traded to another team that he would have to stay on that team for 90 days before he can be traded to another team. A sign and trade is the only way you can trade a player right away. Not sure about the new CBA though. That might have changed things.
You might be right then,
I wasn’t aware of any such rule.
Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
@ESPNSteinLine
Marc Stein
Most recent construction of CP3 trade, sources say, does indeed still send Odom to NOH. Hornets want him as much as Martin/Scola, even …
Roll Shaw
Follow @Geniespool
Nooooooooooo
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
by douchiedude on Dec 10, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
We're probably getting Okafor back.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Makes sense. Such a great contract.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Who cares. In all likelyhood the lakers are going to get Okafur which makes this such a killer trade
as long as bynum isn’t included.
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
Not surprised
Would have been nice to keep Odom, probably would’ve made the dwight deal easier
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius
I'm gonna say something that might sound crazy but...
….does anyone else think that Stern Vetoed the first trade because it included Odom? Hoping a second one was made WITHOUT Odom, so that Odom may be a second piece for the Dwight Trade?
Therefor, landing LA with both CP3 AND Dwight?????
If I wasn’t an LA fan and was filled with Conspiracy theories, this is what I would be bitching about….. but because Stern ultimately nullified the first trade, everyone, including my(drunk)self, didn’t see the bigger picture… He did let talks resume, so…… yea…..
"Where Yo Curleh Mustache at!?"
"Lebron joins teams with his friends; Kobe’s enemies join teams with him." -Gil Meriken
@chadfordinsider
Lots of speculation that Emeka Okafor is in the new CP3 deal. Source says he is not part of trade.
WTF.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
... and another theory
WTF IS DIFFERENT THEN???
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
that is the million dollar question
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
No LO apparently
"I promise you, we’re going to build a dictating, dominating, attacking defense. I’ve said it a million times. It’s not a slight on our offense, but we’re not going to win any world championship until we have that." - A.J. Smith
I really think that the Lakers had to make changes and since they really
don’t have much in the form of youth to send over I think they are taking back salary in the form of another player.
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
TF is going on
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius
WTF
I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot.- Kobe Bryant
A.J. Burnett's only fan!
I told you guys were getting Okafor. Now we trade him for Dwight
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- WHO'S GOT IT BETTER THAN US???? NOOOOOOOOOOBODYY!!!!!!!!!!!!
- A fan of the Warriors and Lakers.
Okafor and swagbro for dwight
I can see it now
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius
@LakersReporter
Showing that his strained quad isn’t anything of concern, Pau Gasol is practicing: pic.twitter.com/SQUwSfTm
Strained quad my ass.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
well at least
Mike Brown isn’t showing them how to play defense over a powerpoint presentation
Maybe I'll just fade into Bolivian
Am I the only one surprised to see Luke in that picture?
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"-Wayne Gretzky"-Michael Scott.
by SharksFanEst.1994 on Dec 10, 2011 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
He was injured at the end of FIBA,
I’d imagine he was somewhat rusty trying to get back in shape after not knowing about the season
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Dammit. Im supposed to be studying for my finals........
DAMN YOU STERN FOR NOT LETTING THIS DEAL GO THROUGH EARLIER
I've been taking a "break" from studying. And a break means a couple of hours
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- SF GIants Baseball 2011 = *sigh* Home of 6 World Series Titles
- SF 49ers Football 2011-2012 = ??? Home of the 5.5 Super Bowl Champs ( Aaron Rodgers should of been a Niner)
- WHO'S GOT IT BETTER THAN US???? NOOOOOOOOOOBODYY!!!!!!!!!!!!
- A fan of the Warriors and Lakers.
Yeah, dammit, me too. Organic Chemistry isn't going to study itself
But if it could I would really appreciate it.
C’mon deal, go through so we can freak out over the next one for Dwight!
Is that Basketball Reasonable enough?
Really though, just remember that you have to hit 88 mph the second the lighting both strikes the clock tower
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- SF GIants Baseball 2011 = *sigh* Home of 6 World Series Titles
- SF 49ers Football 2011-2012 = ??? Home of the 5.5 Super Bowl Champs ( Aaron Rodgers should of been a Niner)
- WHO'S GOT IT BETTER THAN US???? NOOOOOOOOOOBODYY!!!!!!!!!!!!
- A fan of the Warriors and Lakers.
Remember remember the 5th of November
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius
Didn't see Odom's name in the Yahoo story
Don’t have time to scan 450 comments as I’m out the door in a few. LO’s name was not included in Woj’s story on the reconstructed deal.
I’d sure love to see him stay.
Former LakersForDeuce: "The 2010 champs made me up the ante and change my name!"
Ehh at this point we really don't know
Reports are differing on that point
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
There's no way the Lakers can come up with any package
without Odom that’s better than Gasol + Odom. If Stern allows a trade minus Odom, owners would lose their minds.
Unless it had to do with the luxury tax benefits to the Lakers and less $$$ to the owners
Former LakersForDeuce: "The 2010 champs made me up the ante and change my name!"
by LakersForTrey on Dec 10, 2011 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
i think LO's gone one way or the other. no way he ends this season on either LA or NO's roster
Slava.
http://www.twitter.com/hobojarpen
Probably in Miami
Former LakersForDeuce: "The 2010 champs made me up the ante and change my name!"
by LakersForTrey on Dec 10, 2011 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
I could actually see Lamar resigning there
He has connections and is still well liked there, and it would be a good chance to stick it to Mitch imo
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
So Okeafor isnt in the deal? Or is LO actually in the deal?
and if that’s the case who would we be getting back as far as salary to make this deal that much different from the previous one? Something doesnt smell right about it.
Da Bears....enuff said
That better be the reason Brown!
KevinDing KEVIN DING
Rudy Tomjanovich is here at Lakers practice. Don’t worry, Lakers fans, only as a guest of Mike Brown.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 11:43 AM PST reply actions
He'll probably just leave half way through his visit anyway.
by AV. on Dec 10, 2011 11:44 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
As much as is possible for the 2nd day of his coaching reign, I like Brown lol
DuranLA Beto Duran
Brown allowing media to watch practice. I know only 2nd day but intensity is def high. Lots defense
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 11:47 AM PST reply actions
@SI_LeeJenkins
Pau Gasol shouting instructions to younger teammates in defensive drills. Awkward but admirable
Hey Odom, that’s a true pro.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Always a proffessional
Really wish we could have kept him and gotten D12 and CP3.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
Make your last practice a good one Pau
adios amigo! Buenos dias Paul yHoward!
Da Bears....enuff said
May not be his last practice
Never know with this league.
I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot.- Kobe Bryant
A.J. Burnett's only fan!
anytime they aren't playing LA
they will have a fan in me!
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
Damn it, Pau.
As if it wasn’t hard enough to let you go :(
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
by douchiedude on Dec 10, 2011 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
not awkward at all
awesome!
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
This is prolly the first report I've seen of him shouting
besides after fouls when he lets his llama roar
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Hollinger is saying that Nene is seeing what happens with Pau
Possibly joining him in Houston. This trade seems to be holding up some other deals, hurry up and accept this Stern!
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 11:49 AM PST reply actions
I think they'd make for a pretty good combo.
Both can work inside and out and can pass well.
by jnguyen0390 on Dec 10, 2011 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
Can we get this deal done already!?
I’ve been staying away because Stern vetoing the trade just left a horrible feeling in the pit of my stomach. But now if it’s accepted everything could be ok.
I’m actually extremely excited for Chris Paul, after somewhat not liking the deal.
Bamboozled.
me too, already made like 6 different homemade jerseys
at this point they better trade for someone named paul
Maybe I'll just fade into Bolivian
LMAO
Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
Ron Paul
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
by douchiedude on Dec 10, 2011 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
We can also get him a high chair
we don’t want him looking like a midget out there
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Not big news
But Jordan Hill is also supposed to be heading to NO in trade. Could be other pieces moving in Houston as well, but they heard from two different guys that he is gone.
I suggested that
He is expendable, Houston has a ton of forwards
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
Man..all of your trade proposals..
had my brain spinning…I think you had like 20 different trade proposals listed at some point;-)
@mcten
Mike Brown’s coaching stance: yfrog.com/kko6vptj
LMAO.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Lawl
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- SF GIants Baseball 2011 = *sigh* Home of 6 World Series Titles
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- WHO'S GOT IT BETTER THAN US???? NOOOOOOOOOOBODYY!!!!!!!!!!!!
- A fan of the Warriors and Lakers.
They glued his shorts to the wall
Too much swag, apparently
Is that Basketball Reasonable enough?
by Laserface on Dec 10, 2011 11:56 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Come on Luke, if your not gonna do anyting retire! lol
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
HHAH
Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
So he can have a statue?
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- SF GIants Baseball 2011 = *sigh* Home of 6 World Series Titles
- SF 49ers Football 2011-2012 = ??? Home of the 5.5 Super Bowl Champs ( Aaron Rodgers should of been a Niner)
- WHO'S GOT IT BETTER THAN US???? NOOOOOOOOOOBODYY!!!!!!!!!!!!
- A fan of the Warriors and Lakers.
Is he doing "MAAAAHBUHLZ?"
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
by douchiedude on Dec 10, 2011 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
flap!! flip!!! fling! flow!,
bip bap come up now!!,
mmmmm hit the ground now go,
Here. I. Am now come up slow,
Turn around throw the pass,
Get that ball I’ll throw it real fast
#kevinhart
"Where Yo Curleh Mustache at!?"
"Lebron joins teams with his friends; Kobe’s enemies join teams with him." -Gil Meriken
I would hate for Odom to somehow end up in Miami to spite the Lakers....
……..
"Where Yo Curleh Mustache at!?"
"Lebron joins teams with his friends; Kobe’s enemies join teams with him." -Gil Meriken
Can't see it happening.
Even if New Orleans releases him, he’ll receive some good offers on the market.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
I wouldn't be so quick to say he would do it to spite the Lakers.
I’m sure he wants to continue to play for a contender.
Bamboozled.
No I was just saying...
…because he could have left the Lakers last year but didn’t … and now if he feels like he’s being “betrayed” by the Lakers, then he would go there…. IF he was really that upset….
"Where Yo Curleh Mustache at!?"
"Lebron joins teams with his friends; Kobe’s enemies join teams with him." -Gil Meriken
LOL, if Chris Paul can't dictate where he goes in this league, I guarandamntee you Lamar Odom can't either.
You're only a success for the moment that you complete a successful act. - Tex Winter
Tweetness
I was just saying.... lol
"Where Yo Curleh Mustache at!?"
"Lebron joins teams with his friends; Kobe’s enemies join teams with him." -Gil Meriken
He was there before and I think still has a place there.
You're only a success for the moment that you complete a successful act. - Tex Winter
Tweetness
Backup to Amare?
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- SF GIants Baseball 2011 = *sigh* Home of 6 World Series Titles
- SF 49ers Football 2011-2012 = ??? Home of the 5.5 Super Bowl Champs ( Aaron Rodgers should of been a Niner)
- WHO'S GOT IT BETTER THAN US???? NOOOOOOOOOOBODYY!!!!!!!!!!!!
- A fan of the Warriors and Lakers.
Impossible.
I think him as a Celtic might be likely depending on if the West trade goes through or not.
Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
he has really good connections to Miami still
and is loved there. It would also be a good way to shove it up Mitch’s ass.
I could see it, and I wouldn’t blame him.
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
Odom isn't spiteful as far as I know
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
BREAKING NEWS
@johnhollinger Would seem to me Nene is waiting on this Pau trade. Rockets could go 4-64 or thereabouts if they wanted to.
John Hollinger is bad at math. Explains everything.
cal. lakers. dodgers. packers. chelsea.
vols. rangers. galaxy.
by cldpc on Dec 10, 2011 11:55 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
Good for Pau,
I’ll be rooting for him.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
by douchiedude on Dec 10, 2011 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
@LakersReporter
Kobe got banged on his lower body driving into the paint by Ebanks, walked it off on sideline and checked himself back in.
Ebanks is going to get summarily dominated in three, two, one…
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
might get traded....
"Where Yo Curleh Mustache at!?"
"Lebron joins teams with his friends; Kobe’s enemies join teams with him." -Gil Meriken
Samuel L Jackson backs away
FROM BLACK MAMBAS!
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
Def a change from PJ
DuranLA Beto Duran
Wow! Mike Brown up and down with team, coaching, cheering. His enthusiasm has me ready to lace em up.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 11:59 AM PST reply actions
until it went into iso-23?
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
@mcten
Mike Brown is screaming, running up and down the court, following the action. I would dare call it dancing. “Yessir! Yessir!”
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Wow. The media is amazed they get so much access to the Lakers practice
Roll Shaw
Follow @Geniespool
Because Phil hated the media lol...
….I mean idk if he HATED it, but always made fun of em and such….
"Where Yo Curleh Mustache at!?"
"Lebron joins teams with his friends; Kobe’s enemies join teams with him." -Gil Meriken
I would give up my job to be a Lakers journalist...
getting to follow my favorite team? Yes please!
by keithsweatshirt on Dec 10, 2011 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
Well, Phil usually started slower
circumstance makes it so they actually see more of their regular drills right away. Phil did a lot of fundamentals work as well. It’s just not generally as exciting
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Interesting: Luke Walton working with first-teamers Bynum, Gasol, Kobe and Fisher in scrimmage.
You're only a success for the moment that you complete a successful act. - Tex Winter
Tweetness
I think it's a message to Ron that he's too fat :P
Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
Second team today.
You're only a success for the moment that you complete a successful act. - Tex Winter
Tweetness
WALTON TO THE STARTING LINEUP!
I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot.- Kobe Bryant
A.J. Burnett's only fan!
They haven't said anything until like 30 minutes ago throughout most of this and they have confused the hell out of most because of Odom and Okafor
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
no new info and Woj not guessing lol
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
@KevinDing
Devin Ebanks answer to Mike Brown question: “I have no idea.” After explanation, Brown yells: “Don’t hang your head!”
So different from PJ.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
great changeup
"If somebody had their life on the line, and they’ve got their options on who they want to save their life — tell me who you’re going to pick? You’re going to look at the stats first?" - Kobe Bryant
by desecrator09 on Dec 10, 2011 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
Yep. @DuranLA
Brown talks to Ebanks about body language tells him wants him to do drill right. Ebanks does, Brown follows w hug “that’s how do it”
Just feels like he’s a great human being.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
full on plans made
@DuranLA
Beto Duran
Nothing is improvised. Each assistant had a practice plan in hand. Just like football coaches
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dont say things that make me possibly like this guy please
I’d like to say hey look cp3,d12,kb24 nobody could mess this up
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
u guys cereal right now?
Hugging professional players is kinda weird in my book.
Maybe I'll just fade into Bolivian
Worked for Lasorda
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 12:45 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I would hate that
don’t hug me. Let me do it right, keep it moving. lol
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
I loved Phil's approach though
he’d explain it to him in practice, but he’d not tolerate it in game
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Anyways, back to work.
I’ve been here for about 52 hours straight. So thankful I always have emergency clothes and toothbrush/paste/shampoo/soap on me at all times.
cal. lakers. dodgers. packers. chelsea.
vols. rangers. galaxy.
LOL, sounds like a regular camper to me.
You're only a success for the moment that you complete a successful act. - Tex Winter
Tweetness
...at least until Metta works out the martinis
One Raider/Laker Nation...under a groove.
Laker Nation stand up!
by Zen and Tonic on Dec 10, 2011 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
good stuff on barnes
@LakersReporter
Mike Trudell
Barnes is on glass, running up & down freely. Does look to be “98%,” as he stated earlier this week, after knee trouble last yr.
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This is legit good news
If we do end up trading Odom and Pau, as looks likely, Barnes can play backup 4 in a pinch.
@mcten
Third team (in demeaning bright-pink pinnies, no less): Morris, Ebanks, Goudelock, Elijah Millsap (D-Fenders), Zach Andrews (D-Fenders)
Hazing FTW.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
I want to see Morris play
If we get CP3, I hope Morris is primary backup. At this point, screw Derek Fisher.
I have no doubt he will be in for the clutch sometimes
But I dont even want to see him play 15 min a game.
nothing wrong with wearing bright pennies mane
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
@WojYahooNBA
For teams considering claim on Chauncey Billups, he tells Y!: “A leader can be as disruptive as he can be productive..This is about me now.”
Wow.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
More from Woj:
Billups: “People take my kindness and professionalism for weakness. They think I’ll be OK with (getting claimed). I won’t be OK with this.”
Holy shit.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
I got no problem with this
because he has been a professional throughout all of his early career with all the trades he was in. I’d be tired of it at this point too. I can’t see how people didn’t see this coming
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
He doesn't want to be claimed off secondary waivers to some team under the cap.
Wants to control where he ends up.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
KAAAAAAAHHHN
@basquiatball: The odds of David Kahn picking up Chauncey Billups just went up 500%
Roll Shaw
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@KevinDing
Bynum is just dominating. Coaches all erupted in applause at him skying for RH tip-dunk of too-high Fisher oop in traffic.
BYNUM SMASH.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
knock on wood
"If somebody had their life on the line, and they’ve got their options on who they want to save their life — tell me who you’re going to pick? You’re going to look at the stats first?" - Kobe Bryant
by desecrator09 on Dec 10, 2011 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
Just hope that someone's taking a video of this on their cellphone...
… and sending it to Otis Smith as I type.
There's a reason why
He’s such an attractive trade piece. When healthy there is a legitimate argument for best center in the league. The problem is health and attitude.
He can be a better offensive player than Dwight.
The argument is definitely there.
healthy, he has a higher ceiling than D12
just not sure he could ever hit it.
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
I think he banged his head on the ceiling and the vibration of the impact shattered his knees
(I know Bynum has a high ceiling, just joking)
No
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
I'll do like others should have and break this down for you.
NO
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
2nd best
"They should go into a box and one--put the box on Kobe and the one on everyone else" - Jeff Van Gundy
by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
From what I've been hearing about Mike Brown
I take back what I said (for now) about being upset that the Lakers hired him. He just might turn out alright.
Christian Ponder: Super Bowl 50 MVP for the Minnesota Vikings
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Chandler in NY
Chandler is a good C, don’t get me wrong…but he has had a terrible time trying to stay healthy in his 10 seasons in the NBA. He has seasons of 35, 45, 51 games played and has never played a full 82 game season. He also seems to turn the ball over alot despite not being asked to score a whole lot. Now he’s gonna have Toney Douglas as his PG to give him some easy buckets? Not sure if that is such a good fit. I think it will be worth it to keep Amare from having to guard the opposing center but losing Billups brings that team back to last season’s level. Just good enough to lose to the upper level teams, IMO.
@DuranLA
Brown asks for 3 guys for a drill. Kobe 1st one to step up
I think Brown and Kobe are going to get along just fine.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
can someone tweet about something that matters? like how kobe's knee is looking?
like I wanna know about Brown’s and Ebanks developing bromance.
Maybe I'll just fade into Bolivian
Hahah
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
by douchiedude on Dec 10, 2011 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
I know I'm in the minority but...
I think Bynum is just coming into his own and we need to keep him.
With the first real PG to feed him, in a system that he can thrive in, I think ’Drew will light it up more than Howard will.
And you can’t teach length. He dwarfs Howard.
Opening night: Paul, Kobe, Peace, ??? and Bynum.
Former LakersForDeuce: "The 2010 champs made me up the ante and change my name!"
unless he wants a ring
Former LakersForDeuce: "The 2010 champs made me up the ante and change my name!"
by LakersForTrey on Dec 10, 2011 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah...I'm with that.
Former LakersForDeuce: "The 2010 champs made me up the ante and change my name!"
by LakersForTrey on Dec 10, 2011 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
@sportsguy33:If the Lakers get Okafor in the CP3 deal, I hope they don't spin Bynum to Indy, Minny or Portland for multiple pieces. That would scare me.
Slava.
http://www.twitter.com/hobojarpen
All the more reason to do it
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KEVIN DING
.Mike_Bresnahan and I joking about all the new staffers here we don’t know. Just told him I’m pretty sure one of ‘em is Chris Paul’s dad.Roll Shaw
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LOL I'm wondering the same thing.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
by douchiedude on Dec 10, 2011 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
didnt bother to stay in shape with the Knicks
after that huge contract. He doesn’t deserve another shot in the NBA, especially with a contender.
Dude is 100% from 3 pt range
Pure shooters are so hard to come by now-adays, no?
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius
by Hdg23 on Dec 10, 2011 12:21 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
@WindhorstESPN
Eddy Curry said he’s down 70 pounds from last year.
SEVENTY POUNDS?!?
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
you beat me to it!
Former LakersForDeuce: "The 2010 champs made me up the ante and change my name!"
by LakersForTrey on Dec 10, 2011 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
Lmao
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius
Leg cut off ..
in a bad morning smoothie accident with the blender maybe….that seems like a ton of weight though lol.
That's like kicking a deck chair off the Titanic.
One Raider/Laker Nation...under a groove.
Laker Nation stand up!
by Zen and Tonic on Dec 10, 2011 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
lol'd
@DuranLA
Beto Duran
Drill was for 3 guys to hit 1 n 1 free throws. Kobe, Kapono, Fisher nail em. Practice over as team claps it up
@mcten
Dave McMenamin
Matt Barnes, to the ball, as Kobe shot free throws to prevent the team from running: “Get up, b——-!” The ball, indeed, went up and in.
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@LakersReporter
Some would expect an adjustment period to learn Brown’s new offense. For Kobe? Said he already fully knows it. Completely.
Hope that’s more because Kobe is awesome and not since the playbook is tiny.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
lol
and not since the playbook is tiny.
"If somebody had their life on the line, and they’ve got their options on who they want to save their life — tell me who you’re going to pick? You’re going to look at the stats first?" - Kobe Bryant
by desecrator09 on Dec 10, 2011 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
Never mind.
Kobe said he has a full grasp of where and when he will receive the ball in Brown’s offense. Did his homework before camp.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
It's like kobe is a student and didn't go to class all semester.
then a week before the final, he downloads all the teachers lectures and passes the theoretical final.
Roll Shaw
Follow @Geniespool
more like he's studying all the time
because there’s nothing he would rather do.
The Lockout
should have given the Lakers enough time to actually read the playbook. And for Kobe, being such a student of the game, I’m sure it didn’t take much studying to get all the concepts. Ball is Ball….only 10 people on the court at all times and not that much room to move and cut to. Kobe will make a good coach someday, if he decides to do it.
From a knowledge standpoint, yes...but
He hasn’t got the temperament to teach young people. Not until he ditches the Mamba thing.
As well, how’s he going to deal with a player who treats him the way he treats others?
Kobe would always have to be the Alpha dog.
He wouldn’t last two years as a coach.
Just my opinion.
Former LakersForDeuce: "The 2010 champs made me up the ante and change my name!"
by LakersForTrey on Dec 10, 2011 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
The only way Kobe could coach a team
Is if all 12 players had the same temperament as him.
---
Revenge is ice cream.
Say what?
Former LakersForDeuce: "The 2010 champs made me up the ante and change my name!"
by LakersForTrey on Dec 10, 2011 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
Nobody would listen to anybody else and there'd be a war for the ball LOL
Former LakersForDeuce: "The 2010 champs made me up the ante and change my name!"
by LakersForTrey on Dec 10, 2011 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
It'll the opposite of hot potato
Someone gets the ball and just holds it.
12 guys with his relentless pursuit of perfection.
I think Kobe’s mentality is a lot like Jordan, in that he wants to win more than anything, and will do everything within his power to get the win. If a team had 12 players like that, I think Kobe wouldn’t have a problem coaching them.
---
Revenge is ice cream.
I agree with this,
I could see Kobe being a good personal coach for a player somewhere down the line, with a similar attitude to his. But a full team? I doubt there’s a team that will ever get assembled that Kobe wouldn’t be too hard on as a coach.
I thought the same thing of Larry Bird...
I was surprised at how well Larry did with Indiana…but that was with a mature veteran squad. I think it would have to be the same for any team Kobe coached.
Wow, have some of you been here all night waiting for trade updates?
The last three threads have been “Occupy SS&R”.
Love the practice updates.
"Winning takes talent; to repeat takes character." - John Wooden
These trade updates are driving me crazy
I just wish it’d happen already
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius
I've taken breaks for 3-4 hours at a time
either to try and sleep or to actually go outside and talk to a pretty girl
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
From Sam Amico
NBA GM tells me he’s heard any deal that delivers Chris Paul to LA must also send Andrew Bynum to NO. “But I’m on outside looking in.” Twitter
Wow…that is tough…if its true.
There goes the league trying to dictate everything again
I think it’s stuff like this that has the NBPA considering suing the league.
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Sounds like crap.
No way we agree to it under those parameters unless we had a LOT coming back in addition to Paul.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
LakersReporter Mike Trudell
Pau Gasol: “It’s tough … My heart is here, I want to be (with the Lakers).”
Goddamit.
"They should go into a box and one--put the box on Kobe and the one on everyone else" - Jeff Van Gundy
Pauuu :'(
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
by douchiedude on Dec 10, 2011 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
Making it tough to give him up
I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot.- Kobe Bryant
A.J. Burnett's only fan!
Gasol, Odom, AND DREW out the door for Paul????
No way this happens.
Former LakersForDeuce: "The 2010 champs made me up the ante and change my name!"
that's ridiculous!
Bite your tongue!
by keithsweatshirt on Dec 10, 2011 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
From Sam Amico (above)
Can’t be real. Stern wouldn’t ever be able to travel West again.
Former LakersForDeuce: "The 2010 champs made me up the ante and change my name!"
by LakersForTrey on Dec 10, 2011 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
ahh. I see what you did.
I have never loathed someone as much as I do Stern right now. And I don’t even know the dude! Just hate his smarmy face.
by keithsweatshirt on Dec 10, 2011 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
That's not happening, we don't trade 3 players for 1 player
If we trade Bynum its because we know Orlando will take Odom and Okafor or something to that extent. NO isn’t getting Bynum and Odom.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
Cuban is probably
behind this since he’s one of the teams allowed to speak with Dwight and a vocal opponent of the deal.
Probably figures to sour the CP3 deal and all will be well.
If NO demands both Bynum and LO, then Mitch would stop right there
He has alot more influence over the deal than Cuban does. Dallas is a far 3rd in the D12 sweepstakes, they have no pieces to offer Orl, they’d basically trade D12 for nothing if they do a Dallas deal.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
I realize this.
I meant to imply he has Stern’s ear and as part of the ownership of the Hornets, is saying make LA give up Bynum as well.
Just speculating.
Dr. Buss is a partiaal owner of the Hornets too
"I promise you, we’re going to build a dictating, dominating, attacking defense. I’ve said it a million times. It’s not a slight on our offense, but we’re not going to win any world championship until we have that." - A.J. Smith
Sigh
Younger pieces were required yesterday. Then it comes out Dallas wants a crack at Dwight. Now there are rumors that Bynum should be thrown in as well.
My logic, failed as it may be, is that in order to prevent “any” deal being made with NO, and the above-mentioned Cuban issues, are that the league ownership, minus the 3 teams involved now are trying to prevent a CP3 AND Dwight deal to the Lakers by requesting ridiculous demands.
Why are you even saying that?
There is a fly in the ointment. The sh*t has hit the fan. The lion will speak.
I would expect that we literally get everything else in the deal coming here?
Everything from the Rockets + Paul + Okafor. Then, we can send Odom + Bynum to NO and Gasol to Houston. And still, that’s a shitty deal…
Go Sharks!
@DuranLA
Pau on y he practiced “because I love to”
Again, Odom, this is a pro.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Pauuuuuuuu! :'(
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
by douchiedude on Dec 10, 2011 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
lamar not sucking it up and pau sucking it up are both breaking my heart
Slava.
http://www.twitter.com/hobojarpen
So sad
KevinDingKEVIN DING
Gasol: “I had a lot of fun today practicing with my guys. Hopefully I’ll be able to do it tomorrow.”
"I promise you, we’re going to build a dictating, dominating, attacking defense. I’ve said it a million times. It’s not a slight on our offense, but we’re not going to win any world championship until we have that." - A.J. Smith
Yeah...after the reactions of the two, I'm going to miss Pau a lot more
and not just because of his talent…
Go Sharks!
We already miss Pau...
in the playoffs!! BOOOM!!!
…too soon?
There is a fly in the ointment. The sh*t has hit the fan. The lion will speak.
Pau’s not going anywhere. Hopefully this trade doesn’t go through, we are giving up way too much for CP3. Everyone is forgetting how terrible he was for the majority of last season, the only reason he dominated last year in the playoffs was because he had (as much as I love the guy) D. Fish and Blake trying to chase him aroun
well from what ive heard it takes about a year and half to fully recover
which would mean Paul wasnt playing at 100% last year. This year he should start out at 100% and even in a down year he still was in the top 5 in MVP voting.
Da Bears....enuff said
Did you just say CP3 was terrible for the majority of last season?
You do realize that with our starting PGs we have an entirely new definition of terrible to work with right?
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
BYE!!
I won’t miss him playing like he did against the Mavs. I have never seen Phil literally have to push someone in the chest and tell him to “c’mon!” to get him to man up. I don’t mean to be insensitive and I’ll miss him but I’m all about the Lakers.
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
While I agree he wasn't at his best in the playoffs
NO and Dallas basically packed the paint because the Lakers couldn’t hit from the outside.
Don’t get me wrong, Pau was dreadful but it would have taken a lot more than All Star Pau for them to win the title last season.
This right here.
I dont care about being insensitive. Preciate the work and ill holla atcha. Time to start a new LONG TERM qyest for dominance and at 31 he’s not part of that plan.
Da Bears....enuff said
Long term franchise greatness trumps Individual player loyalty
Minus the obvious person as it stands now and that is Kobe. anyone not named Kobe is expendable. Preciate the work so long and good luck wherever they land.
Da Bears....enuff said
he has one bad series
and we’re ready to ship him out the door.
by shaqfor3 on Dec 10, 2011 1:16 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
If it ultimately makes the Lakers younger and legit contenders in the short and long term.
Yes.
Da Bears....enuff said
I didnt say good riddance I said good luck.
Im all about the team and personally there are always certain players that should never get traded. Pau imo isnt one of those.
Da Bears....enuff said
hell no Fisher has done a ton for this organization
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
He HAS done alot but his time is over.
what can he do now besides get beat like a drum against every pg he faces? There’s a reason we’re trying to get Paul or Baron or Billups or insert any pg name here___________.
Aaaah you would rather watch Fish get killed nightly out of loyalty than to upgrade the point guard position?
Da Bears....enuff said
At this point id rather see Fish on the bench as an assistant coach rather than a polayer
Da Bears....enuff said
so you say good riddance?
I’d like him to transition into a coach for us
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
Fishyrim baby
Fishyrim
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
Not too fond of the attitude either.
I was pissed with Gasol last year but I always figured it was because he was so tired from the beginning of the season. I expected him to bounce back this year and come up big. I also appreciated we he has done for our franchise. I’ll miss him if he’s traded, and be happy if he ends up staying.
Bamboozled.
Word
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Laker Nation stand up!
by Zen and Tonic on Dec 10, 2011 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
If it wasn't for the possibility of getting both CP3 and D12
I wouldn’t not be cool with this at all. In perfect world, I would have traded Bynum for D12 and LO (who I also will miss) + pieces for CP3 and kept Gasol.
But if the NBA vetoed the other trade, then they would have told us to fuck off if we tried to get that done
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
Agree!! That would have been my dream trade too
In perfect world, I would have traded Bynum for D12 and LO (who I also will miss) + pieces for CP3 and kept Gasol.
by SmokeAndAshes on Dec 10, 2011 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
It's not about the one series
it just so happens that other guys became available after said series. Those guys happen to be younger and possibly better. You make deals when you have to if you want to increase longevity.
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
I agree somewhat with what you said...
…but is it really easier to write “appreciate” without the A and the P in front?
cal. lakers. dodgers. packers. chelsea.
vols. rangers. galaxy.
Im from the south and we say preciate as well as appreciate...it is what it is grammar nazi
Da Bears....enuff said
Dont take it out of context..
Seinfeld..soup Nazi….grammar nazi lol the line i was walking
Da Bears....enuff said
NO WORDS FOR YOU!!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
um I live in the South
and have never seen it typed or said as preciate.
Only illiterates playing the banjo in the swamp~
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
You haven't been around enough ppl then
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
I try to keep around more intelligent speaking people, this is true.
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
I'm regularly involved with intelligent people
and intelligent speaking people. the intelligent speakers say some o the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
this is true, but I still have not heard preciate
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
I have...But the fact that you havent heard doesnt make me think you're pocket protector wearing geek
Da Bears....enuff said
Have geeks/nerds/dweebs etc
even worn pocket protectors since the 80’s?
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
intelligent speaking? lol I take it you're not one of those people
or you quote words out the dictionary to make yourself sound more intelligent at the risk of not knowing what they mean should someone call you on it..
Da Bears....enuff said
lol or I actually prefer being able to speak in public without looking like a hick?
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
For all i know you could be a hick.
typing properly a genius does not make….Internet intellectual lol
Da Bears....enuff said
Do you really think I feel like I have anything to prove to you?
Drive through please.
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
obviously you felt you had to prove something
or you woulda just shut the F*** up. PRECIATE your input tho
Da Bears....enuff said
Or I don't mind calling out someone who sounds ignorant.
But you can believe whatever you like.
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
You're bout as bad as an internet thug lol
It is what it is. Keep it movin lame
Da Bears....enuff said
Indeed very much an e-thug
I just wish computers came with built in IQ tests.
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
Then how would you log into SS&R?
I wouldnt think you’d restrict yourself you just using a smartphone to keep up with Laker news
Da Bears....enuff said
oh that's so cute
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
preciate it.
It was pretty slick how i took that and flipped it around. Im done wit you . Have an outstanding day!
Da Bears....enuff said
Meh! I'm going to miss Pau BUT!!
we have to move on. If I were to think about what I’m more emotional about when it comes to Pau is that we didn’t even give ourselves a chance to win. If Pau pulls his weight at the very least we don’t get swept.
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
Jelly Pau is actually very hard on himself it's not other people pushing him around only
you don’t see him pissed off on the bench. He’s a very emotional player.
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
I hope this trade doesn't go through
It makes me feel EXTEMELY uncomfortable trusting our championship hopes on Andrew Bynums gimpy knees, and the fate of our franchise on Paul’s already compromised knees…..
We should trade for Howard. Keep LO and Pau (assuming Kupchak had already figured out a way he could get Howard in addition to Paul)
and then SIGN CHAUNCY BILLUPS…..
If the Heat get Chauncy Billups, and Jermaine O’neal we’re gonna be f’d in the A
Seriously
Because I was just talking to someone the other day and we were all “Man, that Jermaine O’Neil, whoever gets him is gonna f the Lakers in the A” so weird
"I promise you, we’re going to build a dictating, dominating, attacking defense. I’ve said it a million times. It’s not a slight on our offense, but we’re not going to win any world championship until we have that." - A.J. Smith
How do those two put the Heat over the top?
And both would have to sign vet minimum deals, not likely. As been reported the plan of the Lakers FO is to get both D12 and CP3. Its not just about this year, its about the next 10 years.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
It's not gonna take much to get them over the top
Dallas lost Tyson, everyone is a year older.
Jermain oneal is certainly an upgrade over Juwan Howard, and Chauncy Billups can still out play any of our PG’s.
I doubt we see Bosh have another off year.
It wasn't an off year for Bosh,
it’s the reality of shouldering an offensive burden vs. being the third option. You score less. It wasn’t his fault, at all.
I agree.
He went from #1 shoot however many you want to #3. Less shots less points.
Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
Bosh was arguably the best player during the finals
Their not gonna automatically play Dallas again, they still have to play the revamped Knicks and a whole season to get their game on point this time. The Celtics are still force, who knows what happens if Rondo doesn’t get hurt in that series. The Bulls gained a year of experience, and just experienced a loss of a series that they probably win if they hit some 3’s. O’neal may be a bit of an upgrade over Howard, but J. Howard barely played anyway and was a non factor and O’neal isn’t playing 25+ min a game.
You don’t pick up where you left off, you start all over with everyone else.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
if the Bulls get a 2 that can shoot an open 3?
good god they will run the table with the east
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
Hard to say
Bulls arguably overachieved last year, and against the Heat in the playoffs D-Rose wasn’t even the 2nd best player on the court at times.
Heat have upgraded too with their acquisitions of All-Pro benchwarmer Curry and Battier. Even with Lebron’s collapse, the Heat were two games away from winning the whole damn thing. What happen’s this year after a year of playing together?
"They should go into a box and one--put the box on Kobe and the one on everyone else" - Jeff Van Gundy
by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think they overachieved
Watching them play, they have a great team defense, and 1 guy who is extremely hard to guard. Put some more scorers with him without killing the team d, and they are excellent.
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
But you can't upgrade that team without losing some of the key pieces?
Any attempt to upgrade that team would most likely mean losing Noah and without Noah, that defense goes down a good amount.
Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
I dunno, the Bulls super overachieved last year.
Don’t know if they can repeat that kind of production. Who’s the best 2 on the market right now? Rip Hamilton, hahah!
Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
Rip is still good.
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
The problem was more
if the Bulls get another perimeter playmaker that can feed off of Rose an exploit defenses that zone up. Bogans could hit 3s, he just couldn’t hit anything else
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
Billups aint gonna make it to Miami
He has to go through all the teams that have a lower payroll than Miami. I heard that Phily had already put in a waiver for him.
"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung
i will say this, even outside the CP3/D12 trade scenarios, we have PLENTY of options
Slava.
http://www.twitter.com/hobojarpen
How many times are we going to have to mention that Paul's knees are FINE
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
I'd love for the Heat to sign Chauncey
so he can do nothing but torch their offensive plans when possible and take long 3s when unnecessary
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
So is the back of Artest's jersey really gonna say "World Peace"
"I promise you, we’re going to build a dictating, dominating, attacking defense. I’ve said it a million times. It’s not a slight on our offense, but we’re not going to win any world championship until we have that." - A.J. Smith
What a nut
"I promise you, we’re going to build a dictating, dominating, attacking defense. I’ve said it a million times. It’s not a slight on our offense, but we’re not going to win any world championship until we have that." - A.J. Smith
Would have been awesome if it was just MWP
There is a fly in the ointment. The sh*t has hit the fan. The lion will speak.
love it
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco
I'm just sayin....
Why don’t we let CP3 stay in NO this year, sign billups on the cheap. get CP3 in a year. all the while we keep Pau and Odom!
Chauncy, Kobe, Artest, Pau, Dwight
6th man: LO
sounds way better than….
CP3 Kobe Artest Character Bynum
6th man: ….D. Fish?? are you kidding me
We don't have the salary cap to do that.
"They should go into a box and one--put the box on Kobe and the one on everyone else" - Jeff Van Gundy
by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
We can sign anyone for a Veteran’s min. Plus we still have our MLE
Chauncy wants to win and he wants to be relevant. It either LA or MIAMI.
CP3 signs for the vet min?
yeah… think about that for a minute.
cal. lakers. dodgers. packers. chelsea.
vols. rangers. galaxy.
clearly...
"I promise you, we’re going to build a dictating, dominating, attacking defense. I’ve said it a million times. It’s not a slight on our offense, but we’re not going to win any world championship until we have that." - A.J. Smith
do you see CP3 mention anywhere in this post?
We can sign anyone for a Veteran’s min. Plus we still have our MLE
Chauncy wants to win and he wants to be relevant. It either LA or MIAMI.
Nor do you see CP3 and Pau on the same team in the post above
we keep odom and Pau this year w/ Billups.
Sign and Trade for Paul at the end of the year when we have more leverage and can potentially keep Odom
Will have no leverage, the league still owns the team
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
true, but once Paul is a free agent it won’t matter. It would be like with Lebron and the Heat….. The Heat gave the Cav’s picks even though they didn’t have too.
Just a big circle
Miami had to gut their team completely to be able to afford Lebron. They had to get under the cap to be able to sign and trade for Lebron. How would the Lakers be able to do that with 30 million over the cap as it is?
Every team under the cap would have to pass on Billups before we can even think about that.
"They should go into a box and one--put the box on Kobe and the one on everyone else" - Jeff Van Gundy
by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
Basically the Lakers are dead last to have a shot at Billups.
Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
And even on the list of contenders we are last
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
you don’t know that. Unless your best buddies with Chauncy and know he would prefer to go to Dallas or any other contender than be a Laker?
perhaps. It’s worth a shot
I’d rather keep our size which made us so hard to guard, rather than trust our hopes on two players who have had knee problems in the previous years
I understand your point.
But you’re relying on a bunch of ‘ifs’ so I find it to be very unlikely, where we can get Paul now. I’m worried about the health of our team as well, but I think we should be ok. I think the only one we truly have to worry about is Bynum.
Bamboozled.
robi, you really need to learn how to talk to people without slinging insults back and forth
Lakers fan since the first grade.
Hahah
Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
I think they were wondering how we would get Paul in a year if we have no cap space for Free Agency
“get CP3 in a year”
eh… I think it’s less risky than putting our season hopes on Bynum’s legs, the same Bynum who has missed almost 20 games a season for the last 3 seasons
It's risky in the sense that
we might not end up with Paul because other teams will be involved. And I find it highly unlikely that we would end with Pau and Odom still on the team after making a S&T for Paul
Bamboozled.
Exactly, and NO is shopping him this year for a reason
They want to make sure they get something.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
understood, personally I just rather have Dwight than Paul, who knows how healthy Paul (and Bynum) for that matter will be. Both have a history of knee problems
I would much rather have Dwight too.
But I would rather have one than neither and would much rather have both.
Getting Dwight is still very likely. Still having Bynum still keeps us in the running. And Orlando’s other two options (NJ and DAL) aren’t looking too good right now.
Bamboozled.
Big picture Robi,
With CP3 on the Lakers, there’s a good chance Dwight forces his way out of Orlando and to LA. CP3 is just phase one.
Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
Me too :P
Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
We have to dump Gasol and Odom or some other combo
We don’t have the money if they are on the team and NO does not want Gasol thats why Houston is involved in this trade. Your assuming that their gonna want a trade a year from now, which would be unlikely, that doesn’t happen. Also sign and trades are generally done for players to get more money, were trying to get D12 as well so that doesn’t work
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
Uhhh ok whats your reasoning
Dallas has no pieces to offer, NJ might have tampered with Dwight and have thrown almost 20 million to Nene and are ongoing talks with crawford. No way Orl would want Nene in a year 1 of that contract.
Bynum and pieces or even Bynum himself is better then the nothing they get from Dallas or Brook Lopez from NJ
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
the Nets are gonna also take on Turkeglou’s contract. Also what piece’s do we have to offer lol? a 40 year old D-Fish and an overweight Ron Artest Metta world Peace
You can't unless we deal Gasol and Odom
We need that cap space and we’d use the trade exemptions we have to absorb the contract. But you can break it down.
Ok, Gasol and Odom combined make around 27 million, CP3 current contract is set to make 16 mill this year. We have around 11 million extra, but lets say its just 10. Hedo is making 10 million this year, and we have the 5 mill trade exemption from the Machine. Howard is set to make about 4 million more than Bynum and there goes the trade exemption.
We have even more cash if Luke retires and we amnesty Blake (9million)
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 2:06 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know the exact details and it's hard to show before the CP deal goes through.
But I know the original plan was to take on Hedo’s contract. Things might have changed though.
Bamboozled.
All the teams involved would take Turks contract
So that’s not an issue. Its the players involved, but the fact is as soon as that tampering issue came up, NJ started talking to Nene and other free agents. Theres some truth to that rumor, as NJ has backed off a bit. LA is just as much of an option as before. Bynum, young players, picks. NJ has Lopez…….. and thats it.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
lol try it out in the trade machine…..
we would have to give up Blake, Ron, and convince them to take Luke Walton.
Leaving our bench with only Character, Ebanks/Barnes, Fisher and the rookies….
Orl doesn't make nor want that
They don’t want those contracts, too expensive.
They would prefer Bynum and picks or Ebanks/Caracter. For Orl is more about shedding cap and getting someone for D12 to possibly fill the void. Their not looking for a bunch of players like NO (nor have they been offered that)
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
Because they'd gut their whole team
And only have D12 and Dwill on a team with nobody, and D12 wants to play in a large market AND contend now, not in the future. To contend in the future he might as well stay in Orlando and wait two years, which what he would have to do for NJ to rebuild that team.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
lol this same nets team that had a losing streak of how long? It’s not like their core was even close to the playoffs let alone championship to begin with. Sasha Vujacic was playing big minutes for them….
Well if they gut the roster
Will the roster they get be any better then it is now? Not anytime soon, and also to be fair Deron Williams barely played for them last season
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions
Because 1 half of trading for Paul is having the assets to get him and the other half is the cap room.
Paul would basically replace Pau’s contract. Can’t have both.
Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
For one no cap space
and second im just going to trust Mitch and management on this one. Obviously we aren’t GM’s and aren’t in the loop, Im sure Mitch knows what he’s doing and has a plan.
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
We would need to trade them before the season is over
Because we need the cap space to do so
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
Chauncy would have to make it through
about 20 other teams before getting to us. Thats how many teams are below the cap that have a shot at him before we can claim him. He will retire before he makes it to the Lakers or the Heat.
Big Shot is a long shot
If Billups gets the amnesty kick, the teams under the cap get first shot…I believe. Also a team can only use the amnesty once in this CBA contract period (meaning we might not want to use it on Metta as someone above suggested).
One Raider/Laker Nation...under a groove.
Laker Nation stand up!
by Zen and Tonic on Dec 10, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
Hope that means Barnes is playing that good, and MWP is just not in camp shape yet
KevinDing KEVIN DING
No biggie that Walton worked with 1st team today, but worth noting: It wasn’t Metta at SF for 1st team yesterday; it was Barnes.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 1:27 PM PST reply actions
before he got hurt last year
a lot of us were calling for barnes to start. He’s a hustle player
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
Yep.
One Raider/Laker Nation...under a groove.
Laker Nation stand up!
by Zen and Tonic on Dec 10, 2011 4:25 PM PST up reply actions
How long does it take the league to review this trade?!
C’mon! Speed it up here!
Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 1:34 PM PST reply actions
David Aldridge @daldridgetnt 19 sec Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Source: revised CP3 deal has not been submitted yet to league, is “still being developed.” Rockets still in deal, per multiple sources.
WTF???
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
Lamar Odom - "Half Swiss-Army knife, half Pez-dispenser" Meriones
Wtf
I been waiting two hours just to hear it never was submitted wtf!
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
You gotta be kiddin me
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius
wasn;t it Woj that said that they had submitted the trade?
"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker
"Fisher's defense is called escort service in my country, just accompany" -Ibou
42-1 on Barebones TDM classic ... BEAT THAT XBOXERS
Thats what Im saying
Somebodies lying or misinformed
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
WTF is going on?
I don’t even…
I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot.- Kobe Bryant
A.J. Burnett's only fan!
Media day tomorrow...ouch
One Raider/Laker Nation...under a groove.
Laker Nation stand up!
by Zen and Tonic on Dec 10, 2011 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
Well Then...
That changes everything I suppose! Scratch the patience part I posted a few mins ago…
Nap time
Time is going by too slowly
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius
Woj
Rockets will have changes to their part of proposed 3-way deal, league sources tell Y! Sports. They’d be sending more players to Hornets.
What on earth?
"They should go into a box and one--put the box on Kobe and the one on everyone else" - Jeff Van Gundy
What were the changes they were negotiating about for the past 12 hours then?
"They should go into a box and one--put the box on Kobe and the one on everyone else" - Jeff Van Gundy
by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
Basically
They dump a lot of contracts on NO and get the cap to get someone like Nene.
It´d inmediately give 2nd of 3rd best frontline in the league.
Chris Broussard
Initially, Hou part of deal was same – Scola, Martin & pick going to NO & Pau to Hou. Now, at NBA/NO’s request, Hou sending out more players
1. If Hou’s part of deal was same until now, what part of our deal changed?
2. I’m almost considering forget CP3, Hou’s package is phenomenal for Pau.
"They should go into a box and one--put the box on Kobe and the one on everyone else" - Jeff Van Gundy
Which is why I dont understand how this deal isn't good for New Orleans
Most of Houston’s contract are up at the end of next year, combine that with the fact their good enough to make the playoffs, that would make me want to buy the team.
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
This shit is ridiculous
I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot.- Kobe Bryant
A.J. Burnett's only fan!
damn Pau should be feeling like a very popular person
It’s like Houston offering their mother, daughters, sisters, and nieces to a dude and saying you can have as many as you want,
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
Walton Pleeeeeeeease retire
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
Houston is getting wrecked in this proposed new deal
"I promise you, we’re going to build a dictating, dominating, attacking defense. I’ve said it a million times. It’s not a slight on our offense, but we’re not going to win any world championship until we have that." - A.J. Smith
They're giving up four solid guys plus picks for Pau
that’s getting wrecked if you ask me
"I promise you, we’re going to build a dictating, dominating, attacking defense. I’ve said it a million times. It’s not a slight on our offense, but we’re not going to win any world championship until we have that." - A.J. Smith
If freeing up cap space is such a good thing why didn't they do it in the original trade
also i cuban was pissed about a $2mil increase in payroll whats he gonna have to say about this? It just doesn’t make any sense
"I promise you, we’re going to build a dictating, dominating, attacking defense. I’ve said it a million times. It’s not a slight on our offense, but we’re not going to win any world championship until we have that." - A.J. Smith
He's not that old, in fact Kobe is older than he is in age and even older in basketball years
Your def cutting Gasol short, he is All star PF and easily top 5 at his position. His terrible year last year is better then a majority of starting PF’s around the league. And yes Im totally for trading him btw
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
They should just let NO have five free picks from their team.
cal. lakers. dodgers. packers. chelsea.
vols. rangers. galaxy.
If they can get Nene, it's probably worth it.
We also have to remember that when it comes down to it, Pau is a top 20 player. You have to give up a lot of assets to get him.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Steven Jackson is crazy..
<a href=“http://”jax" http://www.bucksketball.com/2011/12/this-is-what-stephen-jackson-said-at-media-day/" target="new">
LOL
"They should go into a box and one--put the box on Kobe and the one on everyone else" - Jeff Van Gundy
by Mister Larry on Dec 10, 2011 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
LMAO
"Who won the championship again? I didn’t even watch the playoffs."
"Dallas sucks to me."
Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Dec 10, 2011 2:06 PM PST up reply actions
So what's the latest exactly?
Took me 15 minutes to read through all these comments (you guys are good). Just sooooo many updates.
I just know that if they want Bynum the deal should be off.
I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot.- Kobe Bryant
A.J. Burnett's only fan!
Don't know...
There have been reports of yes and of no, the no version had Ebanks and Character going instead
"I promise you, we’re going to build a dictating, dominating, attacking defense. I’ve said it a million times. It’s not a slight on our offense, but we’re not going to win any world championship until we have that." - A.J. Smith
SHAKEDOWN
Nobody has really explicitly pointed this out yet, but doesn’t it seem fairly evident now? It’s an old school shakedown, featuring D Stern in a ski mask, circling the parking lot in the old white Ford Econoline van until the CBA gets ratified by the players, then skidding to a stop and popping out and saying “stick em up, Mitch.” Stern knows the atmospheres of all three teams involved in the Paul trade fiasco have been poisoned, and now he can shake em down for a better deal. BTW, thank the sports Gods for SSR. Only thing keeping me sane right at the moment.
"No harm, no foul, no blood, no ambulance, no stitches." - Chicky Baby
After reading all the practice updates
I’m starting to really like Mike Brown.
And Luke please retire. If you don’t, you’d better win MVP this year.
I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot.- Kobe Bryant
A.J. Burnett's only fan!
From Berger:
There were no indications that Andrew Bynum would be included in the new iteration of the trade, or that Emeka Okafor and the $41 million left on his contract would be going to the Lakers. While that substantial adjustment to the original deal terms might satisfy the league’s objective to have Paul replaced in New Orleans by a combination of young talent and better financial books, it would also run counter to the Lakers’ goal of trying to acquire Paul as a table-setter for a run at 2012 free agent center Dwight Howard.
While some observers were confused as to why the Lakers wouldn’t seriously engage the Magic in trade discussions that would send Bynum and Gasol to Orlando for Howard and Hedo Turkoglu’s poisonous contract, sources said the answer was simple: the Lakers want to try to position themselves to land both Paul and Howard, who sources say is unequivocal that the Lakers are his first choice.
http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/33780584
Emphasis added.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
I'm reasonably certain if we get Paul we'll get Howard
LAL+CP3+Kobe is too awesome to ignore
On another note, this is awesome.
For Thine is
Life is
For Thine is the
O man I hope so.
I’m trying to not get too excited over it all just yet..
Waiting for this deal to get done first.
Bamboozled.
Im about to have an stroke
This needs to be done already, I CANT FOCUS!!!
by Q.Calloway25 on Dec 10, 2011 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
boo ya
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
Oh baby....
One Raider/Laker Nation...under a groove.
Laker Nation stand up!
by Zen and Tonic on Dec 10, 2011 5:17 PM PST up reply actions
@KBergCBS
Now appears Lakers will keep Devin Ebanks, and that additional young talent to New Orleans will be coming from the Rockets, sources confirm.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
HOU's plan is to get Pau and pair him with Nene/Marc, right?
Slava.
http://www.twitter.com/hobojarpen
Possibly Dalembert if they get neither
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
HOU putting together these players almost makes me want to deal Pau straight up to for those pieces
Slava.
http://www.twitter.com/hobojarpen
They would be real tough inside, but they wouldn't have much on the perimeter
Not sure who they drafted tho, so maybe they have some young players there
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
I love the Rockets!
I will def. be rooting for them if the Lakers aren’t on.
I would have anyway
since Pau will be there, but they might be my second favorite now…
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
jesus Houston is like ... hey having a ton of tall bastards worked for LA
while don’t we try it too
Little things used to mean so much to her- I used to think they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing is trivial.
I don't think the D12 trade will be done that quickly
The CP3 one is still in the workings
"I promise you, we’re going to build a dictating, dominating, attacking defense. I’ve said it a million times. It’s not a slight on our offense, but we’re not going to win any world championship until we have that." - A.J. Smith
Yea but because it was vetoed by stern...
….Dwight trade shouldnt take this long to get through…
"Where Yo Curleh Mustache at!?"
"Lebron joins teams with his friends; Kobe’s enemies join teams with him." -Gil Meriken
Well they could finish negotiating the trade by today, and then start D12 tomorrow
Maybe Monday night, the fact that camps have started up plays into the speed as well as teams want to have as much time with the team their going to actually play with.
by Fin Fan Forever on Dec 10, 2011 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
I was hoping we kept ebanks and character to send them w bynum and to fisrt round picks for dwight
"They’re a very special group of men. Cherish them, you will not see their like again."
by chaucer on Dec 10, 2011 2:26 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Dwight's already said before, he would like to play along side Kobe...
….having CP3 in the mix just sweetens that pot for Dwight…. Magic, hopefully, aren’t stupid enough to let him walk and get nothing in return….. So to the Lakers he shall go, and in a frenzy WE shall go… lol
"Where Yo Curleh Mustache at!?"
"Lebron joins teams with his friends; Kobe’s enemies join teams with him." -Gil Meriken
blah, reply fail.........
"Where Yo Curleh Mustache at!?"
"Lebron joins teams with his friends; Kobe’s enemies join teams with him." -Gil Meriken
And then run roughshod through the rest of the league
Christian Ponder: Super Bowl 50 MVP for the Minnesota Vikings
For Basketball Reasons
New thread soon?
This is starting to bog way down
"I promise you, we’re going to build a dictating, dominating, attacking defense. I’ve said it a million times. It’s not a slight on our offense, but we’re not going to win any world championship until we have that." - A.J. Smith
It's like, voila
ask for it and ye shall be answered.
Okay, now ask for Paul and Howard and we can keep Odom, too.
And a pony.
Is that Basketball Reasonable enough?
More CP3 Trade News posted
http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2011/12/10/2626662/more-cp3-trade-news
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are we going here?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 10, 2011 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
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