The Credits: "Another 48 Hours"

by wondahbap on Oct 3, 2011 9:13 AM PDT in Credits

Starring the Lockout...of course.

Much more after the Jump...

Lakers Links:

Podkast w/Ozomatli: Lakers, Dodgers, music and L.A.'s Latino community - Los Angeles Lakers Blog - ESPN Los Angeles
Kobe Bryant of Los Angeles Lakers, Virtus Bologna working 'intensely' on deal - ESPN Los Angeles
Los Angeles Lakers' Kobe Bryant must decide priorities - ESPN Los Angeles
Examining Kobe Bryant's knee: There are hopeful signs - latimes.com
Stay on top of Kobe Bryant’s potential Italian deal - Lakers blog : The Orange County Register
Italian league working "intensely" to rearrange schedule for Kobe | ProBasketballTalk
NBA Players' Actions Might Predict the Timeframe of the Lockout | Lakers Nation
Kobe’s knee work was more cutting edge than we thought | ProBasketballTalk
The Lowdown: Jim McMillian | Hardwood Paroxysm
NBA Fantasy Team Analysis: The Los Angeles Lakers | Dime Magazine
Former Bulls Great Calls Out Carlos Boozer; Kobe Bryant’s Super Knee Injection | Dime Magazine
HoopsHype.com NBA Blogs - Nima Zarrabi " Italian adventure has plenty of upside for Kobe
HoopsHype.com NBA Blogs - Jorge Sierra " Trevor Ariza: "The Lakers overlooked how I helped them win the title"
Please, Kobe, please. Stop lying. - CBSSports.com

Lockout and other NBA News:

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Gregg Doyel is an idiot.

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by SoCalGal on Oct 3, 2011 11:04 AM PDT reply actions

Why?

He made valid points. I don’t think that’s an aspect that can be overlooked.

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by wondahbap on Oct 3, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions

What's valid about his point when Kobe has been saying all along that he wants to play?

Even Kevin Ding pointed out last week that Kobe wants to play, anywhere, any time, during this lockout. I’d be more inclined to listen to KD, saying the same thing Kobe’s been saying, than GD calling Kobe a liar.

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by SoCalGal on Oct 3, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions

I don't necessarily agree with Doyel.

Just that the injury aspect is something to be looked at. I have more to say, but want to write about it today.

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by wondahbap on Oct 4, 2011 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions

Might also have to do with the fact that Doyel is a condescending asswipe

And a terrible writer.

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by Ben R on Oct 3, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions

There is that.

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by SoCalGal on Oct 3, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions

just ask lebron

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by shaqfor3 on Oct 3, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions

Except its only 10 games, I don't think it's that serious

to play 10 games overseas. Not like he’s signing yearlong contracts or whatever

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by Marty Mart on Oct 4, 2011 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions

exactly

this is nothing compared to the normal wear and tear of an NBA season + playoffs.

No one should be losing sleep over this.

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by shaqfor3 on Oct 4, 2011 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions

Well, at least we know Kobe is going all-out in treating his knee

http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/lakers/post/_/id/22557/kobe-bryant-gene-therapy-knee-wehling

Being treated by the same doctor who provided care to the pope is pretty cool. Any BIO/MOL/CHEM majors or doctors out there care to vet the copious list of scientific articles listed in the post?

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by Ben R on Oct 3, 2011 1:02 PM PDT reply actions

I don't really have the time or patience to read through many of those papers, but I skimmed some of the more relevant sounding ones.

The idea is pretty simple, but it seems to me there would be a lot of complications when trying to actually make it work. He’s basically just artificially supercharging the body’s healing mechanisms by isolating and concentrating the important proteins to levels way higher than would ever be found otherwise.

The gene therapy stuff mixed in there is super interesting, but has nothing to do with Kobe’s treatment.

by LAMojo on Oct 3, 2011 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions

Interesting. Thanks a bunch.

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by Ben R on Oct 3, 2011 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions

It's not very complicated, this procedure can be done by anyone with a syringe and a centrifuge.

kamentezkys’link brings up the big criticism, which is – “does this work better than just your body naturally healing itself?”

…scientists treated people suffering from refractory tennis elbow with either P.R.P. or injections of whole blood…But the whole blood turned out to be as effective as P.R.P. at treating tennis elbow after three months, and more so at six months

Personally I think it’s barely a step up from a placebo. There is a reason why most insurance won’t cover it. I can see why a lot of doctors would hype it up though, It’s cheap and quick for them to do plus they can charge a lot for it. It can’t harm him though, unless he is going to have it done regularly, which would really mess with his bodies protein production mechanisms.

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by Uncle Leo on Oct 3, 2011 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions

Honestly though it makes me think he's very concerned about the knee and was probably on the cusp of getting another surgery.

at this point though the orthopedist probably said another surgery wouldn’t fix much.

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by Uncle Leo on Oct 3, 2011 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions

I think you may have missed something in the linked article.

The whole point was that Kobe’s procedure was NOT a simple platelet isolation and injection.

by LAMojo on Oct 4, 2011 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions

it kinda of is, they say their method can produce even more helpful cytokines

but the same criticisms apply.

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by Uncle Leo on Oct 4, 2011 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions

The general concept is the same, but the work being done is in a whole different league.

Platelets can be isolated with nothing but a centrifuge, like you said. They’re just cell fragments. Determining the best methods for producing and isolating the actual proteins and factors involved in the complicated mechanisms that initiate and regulate tissue repair is way, way, way harder. That’s cutting edge stuff. Check out the papers linked on the guy’s website.

You’re right, there’s no guarantee it will work. Every treatment was experimental at some point though.

by LAMojo on Oct 4, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions