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Damn [REDACTED] Owners! Those [REDACTED] of [REDACTED] [REDACTED].  Get a [REDACTED] deal done, meet halfway or at the [REDACTED] middle-ish. NO. MORE. [REDACTED] GAMES. CANCELLED.

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Sincerest thanks.

I’d been writing something else altogether last night because I thought a deal was going to get done. And then it all went south and I told my fingers, “this one’s all your’s”.

Once again, it's much too late.

by Dave M.. on Oct 11, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

Damn [REDACTED] Owners! Those [REDACTED] of [REDACTED] [REDACTED]. Get a [REDACTED] deal done, meet halfway or at the [REDACTED] middle-ish. NO. MORE. [REDACTED] GAMES. CANCELED.

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Faith is remaining certain in the face of doubt. You’re not sure how it’s going to end, but you’re constantly of the belief that it will end the way you want it to and the way you always believed it to end, and that’s on top - Derek Fisher

by lakergirl on Oct 11, 2011 8:31 AM PDT reply actions  

LOL

You're only a success for the moment that you complete a successful act. - Tex Winter
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by SoCalGal on Oct 11, 2011 10:13 AM PDT reply actions  

Somebody needs to tell Derick Fisher THE NBA BUBBLE HAS BURSTED!

What’s so hard to understand?
All the easy loot of the 2000’s is long gone – for everyone.
Housing. Gas. Jobs. Food. Everything.
Nobody cares if a player goes from $10/year… down to $5mil/year.
Nobody cares if a player goes from $5 mil… down to $2mil/year.
Why pick on the players? Why not owners?
Duh.
The Game revolves around the players – not the owners.
Folk buy the players jersey’s – not the owners.
Folk identify with the players – not the owners.
Nearly 100% of all NBA Fans have played some kind of basketball in their life.
Only what? 5% of the population has ever owned a business?
What a gross miscalculation on the part of the owners.
What did they think was gonna happen?
“We’ll just shut the game down, and hurt the owners”. Silly Rabbits.
This ain’t the civil rights movement.
This ain’t “We Shall Overcome Someday”.
This ain’t “A Change Is Gonna Come”.
This is more like:
There was an old man, and his name was Jeb
Poor Mountaineer, barely kept his family feed
And then one day he was shootin for some food
And up from the ground came a bubblin crude.
Black gold. Texas Tea.

This is the Beverly Hillbillies!
Poor folk, who struck it rich.
Shootin hoops at the park, then college, then the NBA.
Shootin hoops. A game. A pastime. A hobby.
I remember a few years back, somebody asked Kobe, what he’d be doin if there was no NBA, if he wasn’t a professional basketball player. You know what Kobe said?
“I’d be shootin hoops, at the park, probably after work at some job I didn’t like”.

Playin (ok, workin) in the NBA is a priviledge.
Owners and Players, together, have come up with a DREAM business.
An UNBELIEVABLE enterprise.
Fans galore. Jerseys. Video games. Heck, BLOGS!
It’s the gravy train, baby!
Only in America, baby! (now being exported like crazy).
What did Derick Fisher THINK was gonna happen (I’m only pickin on DFish cause he’s the president, and we love him).
Nobody is gonna shed a tear for the players.
They couldn’t SEE the reality and know that 50/50 was/is the best alternative.
Didn’t the see that the Pendalim of Power has in fact shifted to the owner side.
It’s just part of the cycle of life, man.
One day in the future, the ball would shift back into the Players court. No biggie.

Don’t the players also want a strong league?
Don’t the players want to keep it going?
The players control this thing by going in there to devise a plan that: 1) capitulates to ownership, 2) make sure the deal isn’t “forever”; 3) and stay clear away from a protracted outage before fans leave in droves.
Again, nobody cares about folk going from $5mil to $2mil.
The NBA Bubble has Burst.

U-C-L-A Fight, Fight, Fight! Go Bruins!
NBA: Where Greed Happens. RIP 10/10/11.

by Bruins78 on Oct 11, 2011 12:06 PM PDT reply actions  

oops, Players mis-calculated, not owners.

U-C-L-A Fight, Fight, Fight! Go Bruins!
NBA: Where Greed Happens. RIP 10/10/11.

by Bruins78 on Oct 11, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry for not proof-reading. Too wound up. Still, no excuse. Sorry.

U-C-L-A Fight, Fight, Fight! Go Bruins!
NBA: Where Greed Happens. RIP 10/10/11.

by Bruins78 on Oct 11, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry. You're right. Maybe someone can delete it and stick in into a fan post.

Or simply delete it and dismiss it as a senseless rant. I already feel better for “venting”. lol.

U-C-L-A Fight, Fight, Fight! Go Bruins!
NBA: Where Greed Happens. RIP 10/10/11.

by Bruins78 on Oct 11, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

naw, it was a nice post.

    The one thing that I think is funny is that players are going to be playing overseas for less money for the principal of the matter regarding NBA finances, but they have no problem going to an overseas basketball system that has an even bigger BRI split in favor of the owners. When can we expect NBA players to strike overseas leagues?

    I also don’t like how it gets stated like 53% BRI to the players, 47% to the owners, or 50/50 owners/players, etc because a large part of the public (at least based on online comments) think that the owners pocket 50% of the total revenue and players pocket 50%, with owners acting like way overpaid agents who don’t do anything.
   In reality, the fight is like (gross estimates) 53% BRI to players, 5-15% BRI to basketball stadium building fees, interest, and maintenance, 10% BRI to front office staff and coaches, 5% BRI to lower level employees like hot dog vendors, security, ticket vendors, cashiers, ushers, etc, 3% BRI to electricity, water, gas, 5% BRI to private jet transportation for players and coaches, negative 5 to positive ten percent (unknown) BRI to owners. With all that considered, it makes sense that the owners would fight for every dime, especially since they make potentially (unknown, since books are closed) make more money from just leaving their money in other investments (gold, bonds, stock market, etc).

by neokoros on Oct 11, 2011 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, the owners gain far more than just a 5-10% share of BRI

and any thought that entertains the idea should be shut out of your mind. You can’t even include the gradual valuation of a franchise or the tax cuts received for providing jobs or the fact that vendors actually pay to be in the stadiums not the other way around. You’re facts are just all kinds of incorrect buddy

"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco

by Marty Mart on Oct 11, 2011 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

depends on the team

and any thought that entertains the idea that the Timberwolves or Marvericks are cash cows for the owners should be shut out of your mind.

Also, you can’t count tax cuts on income on non-basketball ventures that owners get for providing jobs in the NBA as part of their BRI bonus, if thats the case, all owners of any businesses should just be fine if their business isn’t making money because it gives them tax breaks for their other successful businesses, which they may or may not have.

by neokoros on Nov 3, 2011 2:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

hot dog vendors who go up and down the isles do not "pay to be in the stadiums"

they are paid hourly, and often on commission.

If you look it up, food and drink sales during basketball games counts as BRI, so roughly half of the hot dog and soda proceeds to the players, while the owners pay the salary of the hot dog and drink sellers.

Sorry, but you’re facts are just all kinds of incorrect buddy.

by neokoros on Nov 3, 2011 2:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

The owners "won" the last negotiations

so I’m not sure how the ball wasn’t in their court in the first place. They extended the deal. And if the players don’t fight this time, there is no making up ground in the future.

Also, far more than 5% have owned and ran businesses

"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco

by Marty Mart on Oct 11, 2011 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dear Fish...

You’re representing the players about as well as you run the point. You have flashes of brilliance, leadership and grit, but on the whole you’ve lost a few steps.

Billy Hunter…You remind me of a high schooler. You have a huge amount of time to do your homework, but cram it in at the last minute. What the heck have you been doing in years or months you’ve had to gear up for this negotiation?

Dear Vince McMahon…I know the XFL was a bust but about now I’ll settle for an XBA. How about it?

"Winning takes talent; to repeat takes character." - John Wooden

by Joshua S on Oct 11, 2011 12:51 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

elbows allowed!

Mo' Everything
"Please remember: it's not my fault your team sucks." - DexterFishmore
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by bluexfalcon on Oct 11, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

And trampolines!.

"You said you was king, you lied through your teeth For that fuck your fillings, instead of getting crowned you're getting capped"
-Eminem
"Chris was simply the best I have ever seen. He would stay in the gym for hours, launching threes from everywhere inside halfcourt, in repetitions that spoke more of obsession than dedication. Chris practiced with fear, with a sort of cold sweated abandon, like he had been let out of hell to play ball one last time." -MATTHEW PIERCE

by Ray DLC on Oct 11, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

and two minutes of physical altercations followed by a penalty box

"These are young men with too much money and too much fame for something as relatively inconsequential as sports, but this is entertainment." --Phil Jackson

by lakerdynasty on Oct 11, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL!!!

Let us all congratulate the Boston Red Sox for becoming the first World Champions in the history of sports to NOT make the postseason! Thats not easy to do!

by nyyrocks29 on Oct 11, 2011 5:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Bring on some scabs – and I’ll watch.

by Joey Joe on Oct 11, 2011 7:06 PM PDT reply actions  

I GOT IT!!!!

the owners are Unified, the players have a union. but all they do is piss off the real money….US!!!!!!!!!!!

The solution, a Fan Union. I’m starting a Fan Union. WE’re the ones who actually pay for all this shit, WE should be represented in these meetings…the NBA F U!

Let’s do this

"Maybe I’m old school," Nash said, "but I signed a contract to play here and I want to honor it. I feel like I owe it to my teammates and the city and everybody to keep battling until they tell me it’s time to go." STEVE (God of Basketball) NASH

by 2NASHTY on Oct 11, 2011 8:39 PM PDT reply actions  

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