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Lakers-Knicks Preview: Lost Between Two Shores

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The New York Knicks tonight make their annual visit to Staples Center to face the Lakers, and you know what that means: endless repetitions of a Jay-Z song you've already heard way too many times, and courtside shots of Spike Lee/Billy Crystal/other showbiz ghouls whom in one fashion or another we associate with NYC. It also generally means an easy win for the champs, as the Knicks haven't beaten the Lakers since Smush Parker roamed the earth. But these days, there's no longer the gross power imbalance between these teams that existed as recently as last year. The Knicks, you see, in a radical shift of organizational strategy, no longer suck.

It took a few years, but GM Donnie Walsh has finally brought together a core of talent that can implement coach Mike D'Antoni's signature brand of hoop. Gone from last season's squad are downmarket All-Star David Lee and, among other forgettables, veteran deadweights Chris Duhon and Jared Jeffries. The nouveau Knicks include Amare Stoudemire (last seen ‘round here in the Western Conference Finals, where he got tooled on by Pau Gasol and called Lamar Odom "lucky"), point guard Raymond Felton (allowed to walk by Charlotte GM Michael Jordan, a masterstroke that ushered in the era of Bobcat dominance we know today) and second-round rookie find Landry Fields, a/k/a "Dirty Landry." These guys have blended with leftover pieces Wilson Chandler and onetime Laker draftee Toney Douglas to form one of the surprise teams of the NBA season. Forget that they missed out on signing LeBron. Forget the trade rumors about Carmelo Anthony. These Knicks are perfectly fun just the way they are.

Star-divide

At 21-14, the Knicks are chilling in sixth place in the Eastern standings, and as they're 6½ games ahead of seventh-place Indiana, it would take a harrowing collapse for them to miss the playoffs. Even that 0.600 winning percentage might understate a touch how well they're playing. They began the season 3-8 and since touching bottom in mid-November have won 75% of their games. For a while they were getting fat off noncontenders, but lately the schedule has ramped up and the Knicks are still holding their own. The Nuggets, Thunder, Spurs and Bulls have all lost to New York over the past month. With their 25-point asskicking of the Suns on Friday night, the Knicks ran their winning streak over Western Conference opponents to eight.

If you know anything about this team, you know they score points by the tanker-load. Their per-game average of 108 dwarfs the rest of the league, and it's not all a function of pace. Though they do play an extreme form of up-tempo ball, their offensive rating of 110.8 (which adjusts for pace) is fourth in the NBA. Shooting prowess is their calling card. They rank among the league leaders in two-point shots and free-throws and ninth in three-point percentage. Only Orlando takes a greater share of field-goal attempts from beyond the arc.

This being a Mike D'Antoni crew - and the Lakers being the Lakers - we can expect to see pick-and-roll sets pretty much every time the Knicks have the ball. After some early-season struggles, Felton and Amare have got their timing down, and both will cause problems for the purp and yellow. Felton isn't the greatest shooter ever, but he can do damage from various spots on the floor if not checked correctly. Amare you know all about. He can hit that elbow jumper all day long as well as attack off the bounce.

More than Felton and Amare, what worries me is the Lakers' ability to handle the secondary action off the Knicks' pick-and-roll. By that I mean: please, for the love of all that's holy, stay on the shooters. The Knicks have five or six bros who will hang out on the perimeter and be all too happy to knock down threes when Kobe Bryant or Derek Fisher wanders away from them. Kobe has been especially bad about this recently. He keeps sagging off his man to help out where it isn't needed, and I'd really love it if he would stop doing so.

Say, let's take a break to hear what Neil Diamond has to say about this matchup, shall we?


Damn, baby. That cat can take a song and make it his.

As good as the Knicks are on offense, they're nearly as dreadful on D. Their defensive rating of 108.9 ranks 22nd in the league, so again: pace is exaggerating things, but not really. These guys don't challenge shots or rotate well, and they're gooey soft on the defensive glass. In fact, I don't know if Pau, Drew and Lamar will face a worse defensive frontline all year. I mean, Ronny Turiaf... you're familiar with his work, yes? Well, he's the Knicks' starting center. Behind him and Amare there are Anthony Randolph and Timofey Mozgov, who were two of the worst players in the league back when D'Antoni was giving them minutes, which he isn't anymore.

We say this before every game, but tonight it applies more than ever: get the ball inside. It won't be difficult. The three Laker bigs could well combine for 60 points in this one. And if Amare gets in a spot of foul trouble and D'Antoni has to go with Randolph, Mozgov or Shawne Williams at the power positions, it'll be like one of those draft workouts where a big man is posting up against a chair.

Of interest tonight will be the Lakers' new small-forward rotation. Matt Barnes is out for a matter of weeks, if not months, so if Luke Walton is ever going to earn a respectable portion of his salary, now's a good time for him to start. If he can't shoot even in the mid-40s, percentage-wise, you can't justify having him on the court except as a low-grade minutes sponge. And if he can't hold off Devin Ebanks on the depth chart, he might not get another opportunity to demonstrate his usefulness if the league.

If you'd like to read more, visit your local library. (Books are like a journey for the mind!) But if you'd like to read more about the Knicks specifically, check out our fantastic sister site Posting and Toasting. They do terrific work over there, so if you do pay a visit and decide to say hello, please show them the utmost respect.

Enjoy the day's football action, and we'll see you tonight.

Knicks

Lakers

RECORD.............................

21-14 (11th)

26-11 (5th)

NET POINTS PER GAME....

+1.9 (9th)

+6.0 (4th)

PACE..................................

96.7 (2nd)

92.5 (16th)

OFFENSIVE RATING...........

110.8 (4th)

111.5 (2nd)

Turnover Rate (Off.)............

13.5% (12th)

13.0% (6th)

FTA/FGA (Off.)....................

0.32 (11th)

0.29 (20th)

Free-Throw %.....................

79.5% (2nd)

78.6% (7th)

3PT FGA/FGA (Off.).............

0.30 (2nd)

0.23 (12th)

3PT% (Off.).........................

37.5% (9th)

36.6% (13th)

Effective FG% (Off.)............

52.5% (4th)

50.7% (11th)

True Shooting% (Off.)........

57.0% (3rd)

55.1% (11th)

Off Rebounding Rate..........

24.2% (23rd)

29.7% (5th)

DEFENSIVE RATING..........

108.9 (22nd)

105.0 (11th)

Turnover Rate (Def.)...........

13.6% (17th)

13.0% (23rd)

FTA/FGA (Def.)...................

0.30 (15th)

0.25 (2nd)

3PT FGA/FGA (Def.)...........

0.20 (6th)

0.24 (23rd)

3PT% (Def.)........................

36.1% (16th)

34.4% (8th)

Effective FG% (Def.)...........

50.4% (19th)

48.0% (7th)

True Shooting% (Def.).......

54.6% (19th)

51.7% (5th)

Def Rebounding Rate.........

72.0% (25th)

72.3% (23rd)

Numbers in parentheses indicate league rank. All numbers courtesy of Basketball Reference and HoopData.

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Hey wait...

These Knicks play defense!

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/big_ifference_JfyXgdrhOIR3YjMK7JRCTI

Yeah right, Amare.

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by wondahbap on Jan 9, 2011 9:36 AM PST reply actions  

i know it sounds crazy

looking at the numbers, but the knicks are able to get stops. We have good shotblockers, and some good ball thief’s. Clyde likes to say during the game, that the most important thing is being able to get stops when you need to get stops, and the knicks seem capable of doing that. But yeah, we still need a much better big man to guard our paint. Gasol should have a big game for you guys tonight.

This should be a fun game. We have just beaten up on the Spurs and thoroughly decimated the suns, so the knicks are riding high. I cant say I expect them to beat the champs at home, but they have been surprisingly adapt at playing on the road… so who knows.

When you are watching the game tonight, pay attention to Fields. Especially his movement off the ball. If you are a fan of fundamental basketball (and lets be serious, that’s what gets the kids excited these days) then you will wet your pants a little watching Landry always moving around the court. I can say with only a slight amount of hyperbole that he is one of the smartest basketball players I have ever seen.

Good luck to you guys, here’s to a fun game tonight.

I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.

by gbaked on Jan 9, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I cant say I expect them to beat the champs at home,

Apparently you haven’t seen us play much at home….

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Jan 9, 2011 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL, sad, but true.

"2010 was a kick ass year." - Kobe Bryant

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by SoCalGal on Jan 9, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm not saying they can't at all...

My problem is more with Amar’e’s (whoa!) PHX bashing when he was directly responsible for their lack of defense in his tenure. Sure they’re ranked either last or 2nd to last right now, but he needs to come off his high horse. Yes, the Suns were better with him…and yes, the Knicks are better with him too, but he needs to stop fronting like it was just Nash and ’em.

Mr. “I was never taught defense”

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by wondahbap on Jan 9, 2011 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I believe it's

A’m’a’r’e’s

There is no “I” in team, but there is a “me” in Amar’e

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by bluexfalcon on Jan 9, 2011 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

ha ha

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by wondahbap on Jan 9, 2011 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

steve nash has something to say about that
directly responsible for their lack of defense in his tenure.

I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.

by gbaked on Jan 9, 2011 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

damn Shaq once had a similar response

when asked about defending the Pic n roll.

"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant

by Jelly Bean on Jan 9, 2011 6:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Ahem, it's "liberry".
If you’d like to read more, visit your local library

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by SoCalGal on Jan 9, 2011 9:40 AM PST reply actions  

Fixed

liberry sleeperry

Stu Lantz – For not being Hot Rod Hundley. Grade: A Motherfucking Superplus +.

by gen!e on Jan 9, 2011 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL, you're probably right.

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by SoCalGal on Jan 9, 2011 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

now you're talking!

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by bluexfalcon on Jan 9, 2011 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

The Lakers definitely, definitely, definitely have to get the ball inside to Pau, Bynum and Odom

In the Knicks’ loss to the Celtics on Dec. 15, they gave up 62 points in the paint (18.3 above the C’s average). In their loss to the Heat on Dec. 28, they gave up 56 points in the paint (21.4 above the Heat’s average). Get the ball inside and rack up fouls on the Knicks’ front-court.

Also, please close out on their shooters.

"Just be patient with us. We’ll be fine [by the end of the season]." – Phil Jackson.

by LAL32 on Jan 9, 2011 9:48 AM PST reply actions  

Speaking of posting and toasting.....

Really funny story over there right now.

http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2011/1/8/1923612/vince-carter-likes-to-point#storyjump

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Jan 9, 2011 10:11 AM PST reply actions  

hilariouss

I'm not out there sweating for three hours every day just to find out what it feels like to sweat. ~ Michael Jordan

by Cup Noodles on Jan 9, 2011 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

lol

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by bluexfalcon on Jan 9, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Isn't

Amar’e their starting center now?

I'm not out there sweating for three hours every day just to find out what it feels like to sweat. ~ Michael Jordan

by Cup Noodles on Jan 9, 2011 10:25 AM PST reply actions  

Their starting line-up is usually Felton, Fields, Chandler, Gallinari, Amar'e

But since Gallo is out for a couple weeks with a knee injury, Turiaf is starting at Center thus bumping Amar’e to Power Forward.

"Just be patient with us. We’ll be fine [by the end of the season]." – Phil Jackson.

by LAL32 on Jan 9, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Dex, you posted this under Game Threads

"Phil Jackson seems to enjoy his status as 'NBA grand philosopher' and uses that platform to lob verbal hand grenades into other franchises or the league offices for fun." - Kurt Helin
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by bluexfalcon on Jan 9, 2011 10:46 AM PST reply actions  

Stickler.

I fixed it. Happy? Asshole.

Haha….just playing.

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by wondahbap on Jan 9, 2011 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

thanks!!

I couldn’t leave till it was resolved lol

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by bluexfalcon on Jan 9, 2011 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

One day, young padowan

Have the power to edit everything, you will. Strong in you, the Force is.

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by wondahbap on Jan 9, 2011 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

>.<

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by SoCalGal on Jan 9, 2011 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

My Midi-chlorian levels are off the chart!

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by bluexfalcon on Jan 9, 2011 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Knickkys

As a knicks fan, im a little afraid of this game as we matchup sooo poorly against yal. First off, Gallo is out, which hurts us greatly against a team like the Lakers because it allows Artest to focus directly on Wilson Chandler whos been, arguably, our best player this year. Ronny is such a good defender that its scary sometimes and yall have so many big man that itl make my head hurt.

You have no pg though and if felton can exploit his mismatch against the fish, we have a shot

by Daniel Zimnikov on Jan 9, 2011 11:31 AM PST reply actions  

A shot?

I wouldn’t be surprised if your team won. You have no idea how lackadaisical our players are.

"Everything negative - pressure, challenges - is all an opportunity for me to rise."
- Kobe B. Bryant

by volar on Jan 9, 2011 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Even without Gallo we are no match

I just dont see my lowly lakers being able to top one of the best offenses in the league. They are going to kill us with their outside shot all game long and Amare will overwhelm our soft frontline. As far as im concerned we can just throw in a 12 in the loss collum :(

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by Bo$$man on Jan 9, 2011 11:38 AM PST reply actions  

lol

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by bluexfalcon on Jan 9, 2011 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Who is this "we" you speak of?

You’re a Rockets fan. And seriously LOL @

our soft frontline

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by SoCalGal on Jan 9, 2011 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

says the dude whose real team cant get get above .500

LOL

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twitter

by shaqfor3 on Jan 9, 2011 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

exactly

lol

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by bluexfalcon on Jan 9, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

lmao

this is the same dude who left the troll comment a week ago on the grizzlies thread:

Lakers are getting exposed
The facade that is their poor excuse of a team has been ripped apart for the public to see. Prepared to get hammered by ESPN and to be on the ass end of every NBA joke
Have you ever had feelings for a nun?
by Bo$$man on Jan 2, 2011 11:20 PM PST reply actions 9 recs

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twitter

by shaqfor3 on Jan 9, 2011 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Our poor excuse of team.

This is one sorry league then.

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by wondahbap on Jan 9, 2011 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

LAKERS SUXOR!!!!!!111111!!!!ELEVEN!!!

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by SoCalGal on Jan 9, 2011 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Nine idiots rec'd that?

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by wondahbap on Jan 9, 2011 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL, we did it as a joke.

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by SoCalGal on Jan 9, 2011 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh...

I’m starting to lose touch. Not in tune with the ways of the people.

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by wondahbap on Jan 9, 2011 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I checked it.

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by wondahbap on Jan 9, 2011 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL @ your comment on P&T.
Lakers will get their heads rocked. Their early and easy pillow schedule is now starting to cave in on them, greatly to laker fans dismay. My knicks will clober them like a bunch of depraved mexicans wacking a pinata. I expect the lakers to roll over in the 3rd quarter, and kobe will panic and hurl up enough bricks to enclose laker fan’s egos. Call it the first nail in the coffin

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by SoCalGal on Jan 9, 2011 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

kobe will panic and hurl up enough bricks to enclose laker fan’s egos.

cfb: ***** cbb: * lad: ****** lal **************** cfc ****
IT'S CRACCCCQQQQIIIIIOOOOUUUU

by CalLadLal on Jan 9, 2011 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

And maybe score 61 points!

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by SoCalGal on Jan 9, 2011 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

he has lots of teams, eh?

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by bluexfalcon on Jan 9, 2011 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL!!!!!!!!!!

Lakers/Knicks preview

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by SoCalGal on Jan 9, 2011 12:21 PM PST reply actions  

those guys over there are pretty funny

and very knowledgeable

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by bluexfalcon on Jan 9, 2011 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Of course Phil will probably be the dumbass he can sometimes be

and totally screw Ebanks any significant playing time for Puke Walton. Come on, the guy SUCKS outside of making a few good passes in the offense, while Ebanks can pretty much dublicate what Barnes brought which is defense, athelticism and energy. His plusses outweight his negatives while this is the opposite in Walton’s case. Phil has got to be smart enough to see this. Again, I dont mind Walton getting some minutes, just as long as Ebanks ends up getting more, or at least they split the minutes evenly.

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by desecrator09 on Jan 9, 2011 12:38 PM PST reply actions  

Guess I'll reply here too...

Just like Phil was the dumbass who never gave Ariza, nor Shannon the chance to play? Or the dumbass who never let Derrick Caracter play when Bynum was still out and Ratliff got hurt?

When guys deserve to play, Phil plays ’em.

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by wondahbap on Jan 9, 2011 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

those guys werent rookies though

PJ almost never likes to play rooks outside of garbage time and maybe like some of those 20 sec left in the half situations. He’ll play him but I want him to get more minutes than Luke and see this kid develop because I feel he can really develop into a solid contributer for us THIS YEAR as well as into the future. THink of how Pop trust his rookies by playing them solid minutes. I wish Phil would be more like that.

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by desecrator09 on Jan 9, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

So he never played Farmar?

Jordan took over the starting role heading into the Playoff his rookie season.

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by wondahbap on Jan 9, 2011 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Then again...

Smush was the guy replaced. Know why? He was fuckin’ terrible.

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by wondahbap on Jan 9, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

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by desecrator09 on Jan 9, 2011 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Think of how Pop has 4 Chips and has never won back-to-back.

Think of How PJ has 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11 of em. ALL back to-back-to back, and this year’s coming. Pop wishes he could be more like that.

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by wondahbap on Jan 9, 2011 1:14 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Phil's a bastard and a shitty coach.

TRADE HIM! Oh wait, nvm.

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by SoCalGal on Jan 9, 2011 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, he will be after this season. Basically.

Phil still wants to coach. Buss is tired of paying him.

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by wondahbap on Jan 9, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Of course he does.

He doesn’t play 2nd Round rookies enough.

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by wondahbap on Jan 9, 2011 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh right, my bad.

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by SoCalGal on Jan 9, 2011 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I never said he sucks as a coach

i just said that he’s a dumbass sometimes when he doesnt play rookies unless he has no other choice, just because they’re called “rookies”, or whatever reason he has. He’s the best coach in nba history but I wish he’d be more like Pop in this regard

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by desecrator09 on Jan 9, 2011 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

lol and you got me on Caracter i guess

but that was like a first for him and he kinda HAD to play him because we had absolutely no other bigs besides Gasol and Odom. He has a choice to play Ebanks or Walton and IMO, he will proabably give more minutes to Walton which is the wrong choice in this situation because of the reasons i stated above.

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by desecrator09 on Jan 9, 2011 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL, SS&R is so lucky to have as many GMs and coaches as we do.

I say give thanks for all those esteemed souls present on our site.

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by SoCalGal on Jan 9, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Fixed.
But these days, there’s no longer the gross power imbalance between these teams that existed as recently as last year month.

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by timbo on Jan 9, 2011 1:00 PM PST reply actions  

:(

My hopes of a Chiefs-Seahawks Superbowl are ruined

2010 Seattle Seahawks Worst! Division Champion! Ever! I love it!
Washington Huskies: 2010 Holiday Bowl Champions!
Thanks for a great four years, Jake!

by WaveOcean on Jan 9, 2011 1:09 PM PST reply actions  

it will be Ravens-Seahawks

and all-bird bowl!!

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by shaqfor3 on Jan 9, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

an*

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by shaqfor3 on Jan 9, 2011 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

AFC championship game: Ravens vs. Jets (they fly..)

NFC championship game: Eagles vs. Falcons

More birds!

"Just be patient with us. We’ll be fine [by the end of the season]." – Phil Jackson.

by LAL32 on Jan 9, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Pats are gonna pull out their musket guns and go bird hunting.

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by wondahbap on Jan 9, 2011 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

i only started watching football in 2006

So I’ve only seen the Patriots fail in the playoffs. I know they won 3 Superbowls, but I’ve never seen them do anything but choke in person. That’s why it’s hard for me to see them winning it all.

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by WaveOcean on Jan 9, 2011 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Choke?

Silver Screen and Roll

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by wondahbap on Jan 9, 2011 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

38-34

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Washington Huskies: 2010 Holiday Bowl Champions!
Thanks for a great four years, Jake!

by WaveOcean on Jan 9, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

choke?

one of the greatest dynasties in NFL history, with arguably the greatest NFL QB?

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by bluexfalcon on Jan 9, 2011 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Can't stand 'em but yeah.

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by SoCalGal on Jan 9, 2011 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

h8r

I don’t mind ’em

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by bluexfalcon on Jan 9, 2011 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

this

"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest

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by shaqfor3 on Jan 9, 2011 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

I guess I don’t mind them being from Boston(but they’re not really from there). Mostly cause I’m pretty neutral when it comes to Football.

Every other Boston team sucks.

Celtics, Red Sox and if I knew other Boston teams, they suck too.

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by bluexfalcon on Jan 9, 2011 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

38-34

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Washington Huskies: 2010 Holiday Bowl Champions!
Thanks for a great four years, Jake!

by WaveOcean on Jan 9, 2011 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

is that the Giants vs Patriots score?

please tell me you’re not judging them just by that

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by bluexfalcon on Jan 9, 2011 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Lol

I don’t know who will be the team losing to the pats but the Pats are this year champs

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by BrittneyM on Jan 9, 2011 1:47 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

yeah

I think we will see an Eagles-Falcons NFC championship too.

"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest

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by shaqfor3 on Jan 9, 2011 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

were you excited to see the chiefs go down?

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by WaveOcean on Jan 9, 2011 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

a little bit

since they are an AFC West rival

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by shaqfor3 on Jan 9, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, so was Pocahontas..............

buh dum bump……I will be here all week, tip your waitress….

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Jan 9, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

lmao

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by bluexfalcon on Jan 9, 2011 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

NYC my home

I’m totally homesick however lakers should continue to put there best foot forward, Knicks ain’t all that good but please don’t sleep lakers.
By the way anyone with a link to the eagles packers game????

"Hardwork beats talent when talent fails to work hard"-Norm Nixon

There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be committed against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the Limelight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.

by BrittneyM on Jan 9, 2011 1:38 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Knicks fan here.

I hope to at least see my Knicks put up a good fight against the defending champs. I honestly don’t expect us to put up a good fight because of lack of size.

But here you go.

http://atdhe.net/

Enjoy!

by ultimate913 on Jan 9, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for the hook up

This game should be good though I will not be watching it

"Hardwork beats talent when talent fails to work hard"-Norm Nixon

There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be committed against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the Limelight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.

by BrittneyM on Jan 9, 2011 1:49 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Not watching lakers vs Knicks

"Hardwork beats talent when talent fails to work hard"-Norm Nixon

There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be committed against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the Limelight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.

by BrittneyM on Jan 9, 2011 1:51 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Our only win in the last 19 games was at home against the Knicks

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Washington Huskies: 2010 Holiday Bowl Champions!
Thanks for a great four years, Jake!

by WaveOcean on Jan 9, 2011 1:51 PM PST reply actions  

So far the Packers are completely outplaying the Eagles

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Washington Huskies: 2010 Holiday Bowl Champions!
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by WaveOcean on Jan 9, 2011 2:41 PM PST reply actions  

football thread

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by bluexfalcon on Jan 9, 2011 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

ChrisMannixSI: Source confirms progress between Nets/Melo. Deal is as close as its ever been, source says

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by shaqfor3 on Jan 9, 2011 3:10 PM PST reply actions  

lol i dont even care

the neither side will affect the Lakers or any other contendor in a direct way anyways. The Nuggs will suck and so will the Nets, its just they’ll look better with Melo and they’ll be fighting for the last 2 playoffs spots in the shitty East.

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by desecrator09 on Jan 9, 2011 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

why cant we care about other teams too?

the world doesnt revolve around the Lakers.

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by shaqfor3 on Jan 9, 2011 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

im not saying you cant care man damn

I said I (EYE) do not care

Faith.... a fan's biggest downfall

by desecrator09 on Jan 9, 2011 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

and that we shouldnt worry about it or anything

since it doenst affect the lakers title chances really

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by desecrator09 on Jan 9, 2011 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

ok

maybe I phrased that poorly. why dont you care?

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by shaqfor3 on Jan 9, 2011 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

well, i guess i should say im nor worried or anything

thats what i meant lol

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by desecrator09 on Jan 9, 2011 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

It's good for us because Carmelo will go out East and Denver will start to suck

The primary elements of the scenario currently on the table, sources said, call for New Jersey to acquire Anthony, Billups and Hamilton; Denver to land Devin Harris, Derrick Favors, Anthony Morrow and at least two first-round picks; and Detroit to acquire Troy Murphy and Johan Petro.

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by LAL32 on Jan 9, 2011 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

first team that plays defense wins

lol

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twitter

by shaqfor3 on Jan 9, 2011 3:10 PM PST reply actions  

lol

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by bluexfalcon on Jan 9, 2011 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

is this game only on FSWest?

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by bluexfalcon on Jan 9, 2011 3:15 PM PST reply actions  

awesome

just seen the broadcast schedule for the upcoming Lakers games.

18 future games on national tv. :)

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by bluexfalcon on Jan 9, 2011 3:17 PM PST reply actions  

Good read.

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by SoCalGal on Jan 9, 2011 3:19 PM PST reply actions  

yea, good preview Dex

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by bluexfalcon on Jan 9, 2011 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

'tis a link to ESPN, lol.

"Just be patient with us. We’ll be fine [by the end of the season]." – Phil Jackson.

by LAL32 on Jan 9, 2011 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I know, I know.

lol, the title she typed didn’t seem like it though

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by bluexfalcon on Jan 9, 2011 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Silly wabbit, the link is purple.

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by SoCalGal on Jan 9, 2011 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

It might have gone unnoticed by less experience users, is what I'm saying.

:)

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by bluexfalcon on Jan 9, 2011 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Caracter wants to be a starter by his 3rd year in the NBA

Doubt he’ll be able to do that on this team.

"Just be patient with us. We’ll be fine [by the end of the season]." – Phil Jackson.

by LAL32 on Jan 9, 2011 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

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Washington Huskies: 2010 Holiday Bowl Champions!
Thanks for a great four years, Jake!

by WaveOcean on Jan 9, 2011 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know if you guys already heard of this....

But the Lakers have recalled Devin Ebanks from D-League.
Which to me is good news since maybe he can provide something similar to what Barnes was contributing.
If Phil plays him….
http://www.nba.com/lakers/news/110109devinebanks_recalled.html

by Volta on Jan 9, 2011 4:35 PM PST reply actions  

interesting to see how things play out

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by bluexfalcon on Jan 9, 2011 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

this game is a big game and a big test for the Lakers. no more excuses for the Lakers if we lose.

Lakers better win tonight. I’ll be watching pau carefully. I think the key to victory will be laker rebounding and 2nd attempts. amare sucked in rebounding as a Sun and nothing’s changed as a knickerbonker. our big frontline must outplay NY’s frontline, simple as that.

"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess."

-- Kobe Bryant

by Colonel_Inguss on Jan 9, 2011 6:10 PM PST reply actions  

regarding Lllluuuuuukkkkkkeeeeeeeeee
so if Luke Walton is ever going to earn a respectable portion of his salary, now’s a good time for him to start. If he can’t shoot even in the mid-40s, percentage-wise, you can’t justify having him on the court except as a low-grade minutes sponge. And if he can’t hold off Devin Ebanks on the depth chart, he might not get another opportunity to demonstrate his usefulness if the league.

luke’s actually been putting in some productive minutes lately. has he been working on his 3pt shooting? will luke earn a respectable portion of his $5.4million a year tonight and while barnes is out? I have my hopes up BUT if I was a betting man,,, ;-D

"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess."

-- Kobe Bryant

by Colonel_Inguss on Jan 9, 2011 6:16 PM PST reply actions  

Shit, I just learned yesterday that Barnes is out at least 8weeks

that is huge. One of the articles on SSr asks who is going to step in? Shit! Artest, thats who. Considering that Barnes has been playing as if he was the starter, Artest needs to step up.

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by Jelly Bean on Jan 9, 2011 6:21 PM PST reply actions  

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