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Lakers-Dallas Preview: Karma's Name is Jeanie Buss

"Crazy. Karma is a b****.. Gets you every time..."

Those prophetic words of wisdom were tweeted by none other than LeBron James. He graced us with his wisdom while the Cavs were setting professional basketball back about 20 years en route to a 55-point blowout loss to our Lakers.  

These days, the "chosen one" only takes his foot out of his mouth long enough to say something else that will jam his foot further in. Since his supposed "retweet," both LeBron and Chris Bosh have suffered ankle injuries and the Heat have lost four games in a row. C'mon Son!  LeBron should practice what he preaches.

If King James were paying attention, he would have noticed what Karma did to Mark Cuban.  

From ESPN:

"I love that Jeanie Buss' boy-toy had something to say about us," Cuban said while sweating on the stair-stepping machine in the Mavs' workout room. "I don't know if it was his thought or Jeanie's thought, but it's nice to know that she lets him speak in public about other teams."    

That's what Mark Cuban had to say after Phil's remark about the hard-to-fill "vacuum" Caron Butler's injury left the Mavs. No jab from Phil. No apparent ill will. It seemed an honest observation on an unfortunate situation. Not only was Butler out, but Dirk Nowitzki had been out with an injury for the the previous five games. Still, the Mavs had won two games in a row after losing Caron, before Cuban's verbal assault on the Zen Master happened. Since his fateful words? A six-game losing streak.

Crazy. Karma is a bitch after all, and her boy-toy coaches the Los Angeles Lakers. (Btw, I don't mean bitch in that way.)

Star-divide

I'm sure Cuban didn't mean anything by his statement. He's one of the more honest and playful owners we'll ever come across. It was a just a joke. Even if Phil is Jeanie's boy-toy, there was no harm. No one hurt. The same cannot be said for the Mavs' current situation.

After jumping out to a stellar 24-5 start, they've lost nine of eleven games, including six games in a row. The two wins coming against the pathetic Cavs and injury-riddled Blazers. Granted, they had to play the first nine of those games without Dirk. There's going to be some period of adjustment after Dirk's return, and even more so because his return comes after Caron's fall. Any momentum gained during that hot start is probably gone: the slate wiped clean, and the team dynamic changed. They might have to refind that groove or reinvent themselves. They've turned their roster over quite a bit over the years, yet still remain a top notch team and organization. If there's a team that can bounce back, count the Mavs as one of them.

What saves the Mavs is that this crisis point in their season happened in a stretch in which they played quality opponents like the Spurs, Thunder and Magic; and not-elite-but-no-easy-win teams like the Grizzlies, Bucks, Pacers and Raptors. If I'm a Dallas fan, I'd tell myself that the worst is almost over. That's about as bad a turn a team can take and it's not their fault. A turn not due to bad play, but injuries, and now, Dirk Nowitzki is back.  

I say "almost over" because the Lakers come to town finding their own groove. The Lakers are winners of eight of their last nine, and fresh off of what may be their best win of the season - over the OKC Thunder. Although Matt Barnes and little-used Theo Ratliff are out, the Lakers are relatively healthy. By healthy, I mean Andrew Bynum is playing at 100% and Kobe isn't showing much signs of knee or finger problems. With Bynum, their defensive intensity is back, and Kobe is playing at an ultra-efficient level that can make the Lakers the toughest team in the NBA to defend.

Up front, the Mavs are starting Brendan Haywood at center, Dirk at power forward and Shawn Marion at small forward. Tyson Chandler usually starts at center, but is questionable with a head cold (Kobe's knee and finger laugh at that). Haywood certainly has the size to match Andrew Bynum but hasn't been much of a factor this season. Experiencing what may be his worst season as a pro, he's only averaging 4.1 points, 5.1 rebounds and 0.9 blocks per game. Should Haywood be able to neutralize Bynum,  the matchup still forces Dirk to cover Pau Gasol.

Besides defense, Pau being guarded by a power forward should be the second-most important aspect of Andrew's presence. Dirk's lack of defensive prowess is a welcome sight for Gasol these days - or should be. Pau has really been struggling with size and strength lately. Although Dirk is 7'0" tall, defensively he doesn't play as big, and Pau should get back on track and have a field day. On offense, Pau and Lamar Odom's length and agility usually tend to give Dirk a hard time. Nowitzki doesn't score inside and the Lakers' length disrupts the easy jumpers Dirk enjoys shooting over shorter, slower power forwards. Shawn Marion isn't a factor anymore, and with his lack of ball-handling skills, Ron Artest should lock him down fairly easily so long as he doesn't lose him off the ball.

In the back court, Dallas will start Jason Kidd at point guard and Jason Terry at shooting guard. Kidd isn't a scoring threat. He's shooting an abysmal 33.5% from the field, including 32.1% from threes. He should draw Kobe as a defender, so that Kobe can save himself for offense. Hopefully, Kobe's recent increased defensive intensity and respect for Kidd won't force him to roam too much, simply due to the fact that Kidd is still great at setting up his teammates. That should leave Derek Fisher to chase Jason Terry around. Fish will have his work cut out for him. Although Terry hasn't made a three-pointer in five of his last six games, he's usually a Lakers killer. He can't be left open. I really hope he doesn't get hot enough to break out the "jet wings" celebration.

With Rodrigue Beaubois out, along with Haywood and Marion starting again, Dallas employs Brian Cardinal, DeShawn Stevenson, Sasha Pavlovic, JJ Barea, Ian Mahinmi, Dominique Jones, and Alexis Ajinca on their bench. Outside of Stevenson and Barea.... pew.

Normally, I'd break down some stats and tell you what they say about our next opponent. You can throw the stats out for this game. This is the first time the Lakers play the Mavericks this season, and too much has changed in the past two or three weeks to make any conclusions on what they may mean. The numbers are skewed by recent injuries. This game may not have the cache that it would have had a couple of weeks ago, and that worries me a little. We never know with these Lakers. It might be more of a game simply because of the Mavs' downturn. Let's hope the Lakers have no sympathy for them, and build upon the solid play from Monday night against the Thunder, and not Sunday's game against the Clippers.   A healthy Mavericks team is a dangerous team.  It should be a good game.

What would a Mavs preview be without reminding you of this? 


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by wondahbap on Jan 19, 2011 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, and the way Jeannie jabs back is with Karma.

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by CalLadLal on Jan 19, 2011 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I just hope we see...

Bynum stay out of foul trouble tonight, Kobe make his free throws and Gasol actually play with some intensity today.

"If you can't beat 'em... join 'em."-- Lebron James

by lakerdynasty on Jan 19, 2011 12:36 PM PST reply actions  

i think if that happens, we stand a good chance of not getting blown out by 40

inb4 desecrator

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by CalLadLal on Jan 19, 2011 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

ENOUGH!!!

Faith.... a fan's biggest downfall

by desecrator09 on Jan 19, 2011 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

sorry dude.

I know you havent been very pessimistic lately, but i dont think that is ever gonna go away.

its almost a SS&R meme at this point.

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by LakersFoEva on Jan 19, 2011 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

i was kidding lol

Faith.... a fan's biggest downfall

by desecrator09 on Jan 19, 2011 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

you "kid" too much:P

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by smart_guy on Jan 19, 2011 6:13 PM PST up reply actions  

awww

Faith.... a fan's biggest downfall

by desecrator09 on Jan 19, 2011 7:09 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

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by shaqfor3 on Jan 19, 2011 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

please win

Go Lakers!

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by bernel on Jan 19, 2011 12:54 PM PST reply actions  

Lakers gonna easily win this

Calling it.

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by LAL32 on Jan 19, 2011 12:55 PM PST reply actions  

lol at the new picture

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by shaqfor3 on Jan 19, 2011 1:05 PM PST reply actions  

62-61!!!

That is not a pic of me.

by Cup Noodles on Jan 19, 2011 1:54 PM PST reply actions  

Can't wait for tonight's game.

ESPN right? Sweet.

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by bluexfalcon on Jan 19, 2011 2:15 PM PST reply actions  

Unfortunately.

Lakers suck on ABC and ESPN.

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by wondahbap on Jan 19, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Not when it counts. : )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpW0k0QErnU

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by Jelly Bean on Jan 19, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Well, I think you know what I meant.

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by wondahbap on Jan 19, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes I did.

: )

"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant

by Jelly Bean on Jan 19, 2011 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

They're not wearing white tonight.

so we should be good

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by bluexfalcon on Jan 19, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

My money is on Phil that he takes a jab

back at the Mavs or Cuban today during the pre, mid, or post game interviews that he has today. ESPN is going to pimp that story dry.

"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant

by Jelly Bean on Jan 19, 2011 2:17 PM PST reply actions  

Well let's see what lakers got

Dallas big man is supposed to cause lakers back court some trouble(Gasol ) lets see if we have some payback karma in store

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by BrittneyM on Jan 19, 2011 2:28 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

holy crap

has anyone seen this yet?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJqSDg08LV0&feature=s%20ub

"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest

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by shaqfor3 on Jan 19, 2011 2:34 PM PST reply actions  

hahahaha

that mascot is awesome.

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by bluexfalcon on Jan 19, 2011 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

holy shit!

hahahahaha

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by LAL32 on Jan 19, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

i love the laugh that starts 5 seconds before the vid ends haha

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by steffun4tw on Jan 19, 2011 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

So they targeted the guy because he had a sign that said "Jazz Stink"? Then the bear picks a fight with him and he gets thrown out.

Nice. He should have held up something that said Fisher Lied and he would have gotten courtside seats.

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by SoCalGal on Jan 19, 2011 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

All-Star jerseys


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by LAL32 on Jan 19, 2011 2:42 PM PST reply actions  

yuck

it reminds me of those hideous early 90’s sixer jerseys:

"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest

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by shaqfor3 on Jan 19, 2011 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I think they're OK.

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by LAL32 on Jan 19, 2011 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Me likes.

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by wondahbap on Jan 19, 2011 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I like it!

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by SoCalGal on Jan 19, 2011 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Jason Terry has no left hand to speak of either. Even if he begins his dribble with his left

hand, he’ll cross over to the right to get his balance. In other words, the Lakers should make Terry go left all game long. Terry always come off screens from the left side of the box to the right side. That’s pretty much it.

I’m sure will let him go right and we’ll probably see pull up jumpers from Terry all game long, at least until Shannon Brown enters the game.

by E-ROC on Jan 19, 2011 2:51 PM PST reply actions  

Woah

Nets have backed out of the Melo deal: http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/news/story?id=6038636

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by LAL32 on Jan 19, 2011 3:16 PM PST reply actions  

Proky stops negotiations with Denver:
daldridgetnt: Wow. Prokhorov tells Nets to walk away from Carmelo deal..says decision is final.

now this shit will linger till free agency this summer.

"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest

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by shaqfor3 on Jan 19, 2011 3:16 PM PST reply actions  

aka

Melo will go to the Knicks in the offseason. This is horrible news for the nuggets.

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by shaqfor3 on Jan 19, 2011 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, but theres not much of a point though

unless they could somehow coax him into signing an extension.

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by shaqfor3 on Jan 19, 2011 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, if there are assets they consider disposable

Renting Melo is worth it. Houston would probably try harder to get Melo to sign an extension, but Dallas, so long as they’re not giving up Beaubois, probably wouldn’t mind renting Melo for a playoff run.

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by Ben R on Jan 19, 2011 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

unless Walsh does something stupid

and trades away Fields and/or chandler for him, but thats extremely unlikely.

"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest

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by shaqfor3 on Jan 19, 2011 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think he'll do anything. Walsh will wait it out until free agency.

I do think he’ll trade for a big man though and a back up point guard.

by E-ROC on Jan 19, 2011 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah

but it makes more sense to wait till the summer when melo is a FA.

"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest

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by shaqfor3 on Jan 19, 2011 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Thing is Melo cant wait

He knows he needs to tie up money now or risk loosing money in FA with the new CBA. Melo is trying to dictate where he goes and sign and extension….i hope it works for him

by lakergirl on Jan 19, 2011 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

damn man, after all that

that’s hilarious yet crappy at the same time. Woj thinks the Bulls might get involved

"Work before Glory"

by wickedskillz on Jan 19, 2011 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

imo

even if the Bulls gave up Noah, they’d still be benefiting from the trade. Maybe they could pry Dalembert or Tyrus Thomas to Chicago to take Noah’s place.

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by wickedskillz on Jan 19, 2011 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Not worth it to give up Noah

if they’re not going to replace him with someone else. The team won’t win without Noah or someone else to stop opposing big men. Tyrus Thomas would not be the answer at all.

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by Marty Mart on Jan 19, 2011 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

No way they give up Noah

They’d have to get Nene back in any potential deal to make that work. They’ll sit on Deng/Gibson/picks because there aren’t really a whole lot of better offers available.

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.

by Ben R on Jan 19, 2011 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the Knicks should just sit and wait for free agency at this point

Unless Orlando or the Lakers for whatever reason (we won’t; just a hypothetical) make a significant package, Melo isn’t signing an extension with anyone save those two teams and Chicago. No reason to give up valuable assets at this juncture.

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.

by Ben R on Jan 19, 2011 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, but melo is motivated to sign an extension now

he thinks a lockout is coming for sure. he wants that cash money. i think the nuggets dont have much leverage at all. they’ll be forced to give up melo for pennies. they have no bargaining power anymore

by theshmoes on Jan 19, 2011 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Right, but no one who he'd be willing to sign an extension with is going to make a serious offer

A team like Houston would be more than willing to flip Yao’s expiring, a pick, and a young player or two to rent Melo for the remainder of the year, as they wouldn’t mind it that much if he walked. Denver would always have something like that in its back pocket, so if anything, they have the necessary leverage because in the end, they’re controlling where Melo is ending up.

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.

by Ben R on Jan 19, 2011 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

maybe they can lowball the nuggets before the trade deadline with some draft picks

if they are that desperate, but I wouldnt.

"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest

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by shaqfor3 on Jan 19, 2011 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Why would you call it desperate?

They don’t need him per se. They certainly want him, but he’s not worth gutting the team over, especially now that there’s no offer remotely close to what the Nets were willing to give up. They have every incentive to wait for free agency at this juncture.

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.

by Ben R on Jan 19, 2011 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

if they are willing to part with a few draft picks or scrap parts to make a deeper playoff push this year

possibly. thats the only reason I can think of, but all logic points waiting till free agency which is the most likely scenario.

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by shaqfor3 on Jan 19, 2011 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

The presser was gangsta in a subtle mafia kinda way

“I’m instructing management to back out…the meeting that was supposed to happen tomorrow in Denver is hereby cancelled”…Son of Dimitri

by lakergirl on Jan 19, 2011 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

My favorite part of the Prokhorov press conference was this beauty...

Prokhorov said he never heard from Anthony.

“Maybe he sent me an e-mail, but I don’t have a computer,” Prokhorov said. “Maybe the carrier pigeon got lost.”

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by Jason78 on Jan 19, 2011 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

"I am not ready to overpay,As soon as you make a mistake, you can wait for the next chance for the next five or six years. That’s why I prefer to be really patient."

that’s why he’s a billionaire and i’m not

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by crushmybones on Jan 19, 2011 6:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Surprised Phil would be that honest publicly

I couldn’t agree more with his analysis. I expect to see Boston again in the Finals as well.

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by Jason78 on Jan 19, 2011 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I get tha feeling a nobody from the Mavs bench is goin to look like an all-star tonight

Hopefully the good Lakers show up and win but you never know…

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by EmmCeee on Jan 19, 2011 4:00 PM PST reply actions  

speaking of jumpers

I would like to know the percentage of MJ’s shots were made of free throws and what percentage were made from FG’s. Just curious to see if that would give a clear indication if the refs truly favored him. But of course you would have to compare that same figure to other players of his time to get a good indication. meh…food for thought . Im too lazy to even try and figure that out.

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by Jelly Bean on Jan 19, 2011 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, come on

Way too many problems with that analysis — especially all the context you would have to consider — to get any real conclusions out of it.

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.

by Ben R on Jan 19, 2011 5:39 PM PST up reply actions  

As I said before

at times on this site you have to walk egg shells with any question or opinion because some people are just too intelligent for their own good. Sorry for insulting your high IQ. It was just a basketball comment not in any way was it intended to be an “analysis”..lol really? The words “analysis” “context” and “conclusions” are way to sophisticated for my point of view.

"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant

by Jelly Bean on Jan 19, 2011 6:12 PM PST up reply actions  

You don't need to walk on eggshells. Stop thinking someone is against you because they disagree.

You’re reading too much into his choice of words.

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by SoCalGal on Jan 19, 2011 11:10 PM PST up reply actions  

um..not so sure.

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Jan 20, 2011 8:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, come on Jelly Bean....

You’re just a fool.

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Jan 19, 2011 5:44 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

Thank you for seeing the humor in this. You and Sarge must be related cause he is the same way.

"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant

by Jelly Bean on Jan 19, 2011 6:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Adrian Dantley

and Dominique Wilkins are the only perimeter players to steadily be at least top 7 in ftas as Jordan during the 80s. Charles Barkley also was a mainstay on the top ftas list. Funnily enough, after the rule changes, Jordan actually continued a decline in ftas that started in 1989 where he didn’t surpass 700 fts for the first time in a season. Surprisingly he didn’t even make top 5 in 1997, but in 1998 he seemed to have a huge resurgence with over 700 ftas for the first time in like 9 years. So there’s some interesting stuff there in terms of what happened after rule changes.

Only thing is, it’s still not much of anything because Jordan still regularly led the league in fgs. And usually he had the most fgas by a LARGE margin. Like at least 100 fgs and some years well over 250 fg difference between him and the next guy. So it could be favoritism or just the fact that his volume shooting actually resulted in him attempting so many more fts. The real data for what you’re looking for would be especially hard with all the variables because various states of foul trouble can influence defenders and referees differently. So yeah, it’d pretty hard to get anything out of the raw data on fts amongst players.

Btw, Grant Hill and Jamal Mashburn were some of the top ft shooters of the mid-90s in terms of attempts. lol. Just a little flashback data.

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by Marty Mart on Jan 19, 2011 6:17 PM PST up reply actions  

So yeah,

because of the volume of shots from Jordan, the fts were still a drop in the bucket of the overall amount he scored.

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by Marty Mart on Jan 19, 2011 6:23 PM PST up reply actions  

OMG

This is the type of reply I was talking about. very impressed with this. How the hell do you know this is beyond me but thank you. lol. damn I can’t believe Grant Hill is one of the top ft shooters.

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by Jelly Bean on Jan 19, 2011 7:24 PM PST up reply actions  

If you go to basketball reference

you can check the top 5 for many categories including the scoring ones. You’ll see Jordan is regularly in top 5 fgs made/attempted and fts made/attempted, until the 90s when he starts jumping around more on the fts lists.

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by Marty Mart on Jan 19, 2011 9:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Thank you sir

I will have to get more used to checking that out. Very interesting stuff you posted though.

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by Jelly Bean on Jan 19, 2011 10:50 PM PST up reply actions  

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