Lakers-Nets Preview: Where One Team's Trash Is Another Team's Treasure
by wondahbap on Jan 14, 2011 12:43 PM PST
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PrintTonight, Carmelo Anthony makes his first trip to Los Angeles as a New Jersey Net... (What? Not yet? Oh! Oops, sorry!)
...For the second time this season, the Lakers will face a former player that now plays for the Nets. First it was Jordan Farmar. This time it's Sasha Vujacic - the man everyone loves to hate. Both players played vital roles (at one point or another) in the Lakers' recent success, and both were cast off. Farmar wanted to "grow" as a player, and Sasha needed to grow, but didn't. The feelings were mutual from the Purple and Gold's front office, except they no longer wanted the two to do it in Los Angeles. Enter New Jersey.
Now Nets, the pair are each scoring at career-high clips. They are both playing more minutes than they ever saw in with the Lakers. Jordan is averaging 24.7 minutes per game, while Sasha's burning 27.3 minutes of floor time per game. That is waaaay more playing time than in 2007-2008, the year they both played the most minutes per game in each of their careers, with 20.6 and 17.8 respectively. It should be said, that was the year the Lakers didn't win the Chip. Hmmm. Less time in L.A.? Championships. Tons of play in New Jersey? 10-29. I wonder if there's a correlation?
The funny part is both players had their chances in Lakerland, but play elsewhere due to no fault but their own. Each blew chances to take over the starter's gig from Mr. Intangibles, Derek Fisher. Before Fish's recent playoff heroics in each of the past two Finals, 99.9% of Lakerdom was begging for him to be replaced. First was Jordan Farmar, who unseated Smush Parker as starter just before the playoffs in 2007 and had plenty of moments in 2007-2008, in which he outperformed Fish. Then inconsistent play and unhappiness in the Triangle had him seeking to "grow" as a player in another uniform. It's no secret that Farmar didn't fit Phil's ideal prototype of a point guard for the Triangle, but skill-wise there should be no reason that the Lakers were so eager to give Steve Blake 4 years / $16 million that Farmar shouldn't have been able to duplicate. I get it, Farmar wanted the chance to eventually make more money. That's understandable, especially given the fact he has two rings already. But to head to New Jersey, in the same role, and Steve Blake makes more than Jordan ($3.75 million per year) signed for? Seems like Jordan shoulda coulda woulda had it all.
Dig these per game stats for Farmar:
2009-2010 Lakers:
7.2 ppg, 1.5 apg, 1.6 rpg, 43.5% FG, 37.6 3P% in 18.0 minutes per game.
2010-2011 Nets:
9.8 ppg, 4.2 apg, 2.3 rpg, 38.8% FG, 35.4 3P% in 24.7 minutes per game.
Not much better. He is playing almost seven minutes per game more. In fact, it's not better at all when you take a peak at his per 36 minutes stats:
2009-2010 Lakers:
14.4 ppg, 4.1 apg, 3.2 rpg
2010-2011 Nets:
14.3 ppg, 6.2 apg, 3.4 rpg
Hmmm. No growth here it seems. If he just played as Phil wanted, he could have been doing the same thing, for a MUCH better team, and possibly more money. Plus, shoveling snow is no fun. Trust me. What's worse is Jordan still comes off the bench. Yay.
Sasha's case is different. He did fit Phil's wants. He was tall (6'7"), could shoot and space the floor and was a versatile defender. You think the Lakers didn't have plans for him? I don't believe there's any way the front office hands out the contract they did to Sasha without any hope that he'd eventually start next to Kobe. Then the bottom fell out once he signed on the dotted line.
So far, the numbers tell a different story for Sasha. It seems he was ready to redeem himself after all (contract year , of course). Except, Shannon Brown's stellar play and and improvement as a shooter nailed Vujacic's ass to the bench. Couple that with the Shawfather's vengeance, it added up to a ton of DNP-CD's. He made his bed last season, and getting out was the only way for his career around. Now getting another chance with New Jersey, Sasha's starting to show the the touch that had the Lakers opening the vault for. A year or two late, but good for him.
Check it:
In 12 games with the Nets:
11.3 ppg, 1.9 apg, 3.1 rpg, 40.3% FG, 40.4% 3P in 27.3 minutes per game.
He only played a grand total of 54 minutes for the Lakers this year, so I don't need to tell you that anything he's doing for he Nets trumps his contribution for this year's Lakers. Even though the Nets are terrible, Sasha's doing what he was brought in to do - nail threes, play defense and best of all, have $6 million expire from the salary cap after this season. But like Farmar, it shoulda coulda woulda been as a Laker.
These two players sum up the Nets organization right now. Maybe it's where they belong? The types of players that don't know how to, nor really care about winning. They're comfortable in playing how they want to play. Scoring how they want (they rank 29th in assists). Being happier getting the face time and shots they need, and not needing to win to achieve it. Let's face it, they suck. A nice collection of young talent that's currently bordering the Sacramento Kings level of "always-have-nice-young-talent-but-forever-suck-and-have-a-top-5-draft pick" kind of bad. I look at this roster and don't think they should be anywhere near as bad as they are. They aren't very talented, but they employ one of the best young centers in the NBA, a PG who once helped Dallas to a 67-15 record and a trip to the Finals, the coach who got Dallas there, and a top rookie in Derrick Favors. Still, they don't shoot well, don't defend well, don't rebound well, and seem to have no future in sight. Want some stats to back this up? Here ya go...
The Nets rank low in pretty much every offensive category you can find. They're 29th in the NBA in scoring at 92.4 points per game, 27th in pace at 90.0 possession per game, and 29th in offensive efficiency at 101.0. They only make 43.5% of their shots (29th), and 33.6% of their threes (25th). Not only are they slow, but they can't find the basket when they do.
Unlike the Hornets, pace isn't used as a strategy in keeping the score down to rely on defense. Their defensive rating is 108.3 (29th), and thy Nets give up 6.6 points per game more than their opponents. The rest of the NBA scores 99.0 points per game against them. The only team that has a worse scoring differential is the "57-points-against-the-Lakers" Cavaliers. Ouch. Ranking 16th in opponent field goal percentage at 45.8%, opponents are having a much easier time scoring against them than vice versa.
The Lakers have an obvious advantage at every position sans point guard. Devin Harris should be able to get his (he will and it won't mean a thing - he's taken over VC's apathetic leadership role) against Derek Fisher, and Jordan might make a few trips to the basket. This time around, though, Andrew Bynum will be waiting. Bynum's presence impacts the offense more, since it also takes Brook Lopez off of Pau Gasol. Recently, Pau had been having major problems with guys the size of Lopez. Pau should have a major advantage over Favors, Kris Humphries or Troy Murphy. It's going to be real fun watching Kobe Bryant get Sasha into foul trouble in about 20 seconds.
It will be even more fun watching Sasha and Farmar go head up against the two guys that showed them the door, Shannon and Blake. Therein lies the difference, players who wanted to become better and want to win, versus the players who didn't get better and wanted numbers.
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Hey wondah, isn't Blake making $4MM per year?
Jordan gets his ring tonight, and let’s hope that’s the only highlight for the Nets.
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the highlight of JoFar's time with the lakers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C77EYitsWvs&feature=related
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jd2k did a highlight video for the clippers game this time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOf3ogkBgwQ&feature=sub
Quality is our dignity. Service is our lift.
Im reading this off my phone but isnt trash a harsh word to describe someone? Specially when it has to do with sports?
isn't that an expression?
“someone’s trash is another’s treasure” or something like that
Fuck, I miss Ammo and winning.
yup
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The Lakers got rid of both of them.
Stop taking it so literal.
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Well, I did see both of them out behind my house this morning.
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Hahaha....
To a certain sportsguy: shouldn’t the fact that our best player, and the only superstar in this championship series, shot just 6-24, AND YOU STILL LOST, be a testament to the overall ability and greatness of our team, rather than a negative to that certain player? If anything it says a little something more about your team. We beat you even though our best scorer only made 6 shots? Ouch. That’s almost as painful as Tom Brady’s Justin Bieber haircut.
-Rory Stillman
aside from what the others said...
there’s also a term called “trash talk”, so……..
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"If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world." - C.S. Lewis
"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess." - Kobe Bryant
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LOL, that's it, I'm kicking your ass.
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I'm finally understanding this...
I’m so slow…
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
really?
military alphabet
"No one wins forever. Only thing that matters is how you face it when the cards don't come up your way. I'm not afraid." - Spider-Man (Amazing Spider-Man #475)
"If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world." - C.S. Lewis
"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess." - Kobe Bryant
lol
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what happened to the stats?
I don’t have a problem saying, ‘Your franchise player sucks.’ - Ron Artest
I believe we are them. lol
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ahh... clever.
me, not so much.
I don’t have a problem saying, ‘Your franchise player sucks.’ - Ron Artest
then again
I could be mistaken. Perhaps Dex will provide them later.
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oh yeah, blue - ot...
what’s your sn for youtube? i wanted to check out the ss&r footage (black ops) but i forgot to check…
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here you go. thanks for watching
http://www.youtube.com/mclgaming
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i doubt you were calling sasha He Man
This time it’s Sasha Vujacic – he man everyone loves to hate
Fuck, I miss Ammo and winning.
Missing a "T", something the Lakers have no trouble with lately.
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by SoCalGal on Jan 14, 2011 1:34 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
hahahah
awesome
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a visual synopsis of sasha's last two years:
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
by shaqfor3 on Jan 14, 2011 1:43 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
LOL
DA MACH-EEEENE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sarge Clemins
by Big John Stud on Jan 14, 2011 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
I still have a soft spot for sasha even though he's no longer a laker...
He still had a relatively positive attitude compared to jordan
i think he’s going back to LA after his contract expires…to the Clippers :p.
Nice preview
Looks like tonight game will be so much fun
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There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be committed against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the Limelight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
by BrittneyM on Jan 14, 2011 2:28 PM PST via mobile reply actions
So Farmar is gonna get his ring tonight?
Good for him. I always liked the guy. He may have been unhappy with his PT but he always played hard and did some good things with the Lakers, and helped them win a couple championships. It’ll be interesting to see him and Sasha go up against the Lakers tonight.
Nice that I can watch tonight. Lets Go Lakers!
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Please come back Andy!
saw this on got em coach's site
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
by shaqfor3 on Jan 14, 2011 2:47 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
Yeah, I saw that and was wondering why Kobe has sulfur all around his mouth.
Also, why he looks like Teddy Pendergrass.
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My man Teddy.
One of my faves.
These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson
TRADE KOBY FOR LUTHER HEAD!!!! (it's a movement)
Looks a bit like Blacula
with fangs retracted.
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Oh yeah i understand that this is off topic from this thread but i have not said this in quite awhile.
FUCK BOSTON!!
Sarge Clemins
by Big John Stud on Jan 14, 2011 3:43 PM PST reply actions 6 recs
NOTHING TO SEE HERE.....MOVE ALONG....MOVE ALONG.
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by Big John Stud on Jan 14, 2011 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
+1
To a certain sportsguy: shouldn’t the fact that our best player, and the only superstar in this championship series, shot just 6-24, AND YOU STILL LOST, be a testament to the overall ability and greatness of our team, rather than a negative to that certain player? If anything it says a little something more about your team. We beat you even though our best scorer only made 6 shots? Ouch. That’s almost as painful as Tom Brady’s Justin Bieber haircut.
-Rory Stillman
Speaking of which
KG played a full practice, he’s on his way back. He makes a huge difference in Boston.
"Work before Glory"
by wickedskillz on Jan 14, 2011 7:08 PM PST up reply actions
my comment still stands.....lol
Sarge Clemins
by Big John Stud on Jan 15, 2011 8:49 AM PST up reply actions
Oh, Sasha.
I was flipping through channels the other night and ran across the Nets game. The camera was on Sasha. It’s the first time I’ve seen him since he got traded.
He was messing with his hair.
great discussion
Bryant said: "That stuff doesn’t get to me. You can’t motivate me or take me to a place that I’m not already at. "His six and my six are different. That’s not to say that his were more challenging than mine because I had to play a different role and do something out of character my first three. They’re just different.
It was pretty good...
To a certain sportsguy: shouldn’t the fact that our best player, and the only superstar in this championship series, shot just 6-24, AND YOU STILL LOST, be a testament to the overall ability and greatness of our team, rather than a negative to that certain player? If anything it says a little something more about your team. We beat you even though our best scorer only made 6 shots? Ouch. That’s almost as painful as Tom Brady’s Justin Bieber haircut.
-Rory Stillman
gotta give Farmar his ring tonight
and he deserves it for one reason and one reason only:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ytYaSAEk5M
Kobe: "Listen, if you told me at the beginning of the year that we’ve got two games at home to win a championship, yeah, I’ll take that shit"
by hrghori on Jan 14, 2011 5:16 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
hello donovan here, new
got introduced to SSR by ibou, will be in often
Welcome donovan. Have a seat and stay awhile.
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chris hansen?
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Welcome to the fam...ya dig...
To a certain sportsguy: shouldn’t the fact that our best player, and the only superstar in this championship series, shot just 6-24, AND YOU STILL LOST, be a testament to the overall ability and greatness of our team, rather than a negative to that certain player? If anything it says a little something more about your team. We beat you even though our best scorer only made 6 shots? Ouch. That’s almost as painful as Tom Brady’s Justin Bieber haircut.
-Rory Stillman
well done ibou!
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Fanally i get props
Thanx Wave, he’s my boy, he’s from Jamaica, my only beef w/ him is Pats and Yanks fan(…wagoner), but he’s down w/ Lakeshow, he’s 7-feet, we could use him if 37yotr don’t come back
Bryant said: "That stuff doesn’t get to me. You can’t motivate me or take me to a place that I’m not already at. "His six and my six are different. That’s not to say that his were more challenging than mine because I had to play a different role and do something out of character my first three. They’re just different.
what can you do
little kids like to watch winners
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little big man
i wonder what the 40 in Big40 mean?
Bryant said: "That stuff doesn’t get to me. You can’t motivate me or take me to a place that I’m not already at. "His six and my six are different. That’s not to say that his were more challenging than mine because I had to play a different role and do something out of character my first three. They’re just different.
you know,
as soon as i wrote that last comment and posted it, i thought, “just because ibou said ‘my boy’ doesn’t mean big40 is a little boy. I hope ibou doesn’t take it the wrong way”
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lol
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LOL, that's actually rather disturbing.
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Bosh looks pretty pleased with himself
or, pleased by something or other.
by buster.jonez on Jan 14, 2011 5:55 PM PST up reply actions
you know what's more disturbing?
"our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius
The ideal create a caption
Anthony: Common teammate, gimme a hi5 for the ice cream that i bought you yesterday at baskin robbins. I’m pretty sure that you bought the special rocky road flavor, i think it cost $2.25, thats a hella lot of money from the large pile of cash that i get paid every year. Come to think of it, i think that i’m worth more than the paltry $16 mil that these denver fools pay me per year. Thats why i wanna go to New York, even my homie Amar’e sent me an invite to come play with him in NY. But a sorry thing was that these front office fools at denver wanna include Billups in this trade. Hey, I just realized, that is a funny name thats like bill like dollar bill plus ups like ups in UPS SHANWOW. Hey i bet that if - WAIT ARE YOU TRYNA GET PAST ME, BOSH??
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catching a few minutes of Spurs/Mavs before work...
…not to be an inverse troll or anything, but San Antonio’s ball movement is just beautiful right now. Hope ours is the same tonight.
hey isnt the title a line from j.coles song?
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It's friday..............................
What’s up, everyone.
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Whats up Wave...
To a certain sportsguy: shouldn’t the fact that our best player, and the only superstar in this championship series, shot just 6-24, AND YOU STILL LOST, be a testament to the overall ability and greatness of our team, rather than a negative to that certain player? If anything it says a little something more about your team. We beat you even though our best scorer only made 6 shots? Ouch. That’s almost as painful as Tom Brady’s Justin Bieber haircut.
-Rory Stillman
Excited about this weekend?
2010 Seattle Seahawks Worst! Division Champion! Ever! I love it!
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Thanks for a great four years, Jake!
er...
Anyway, Divisional Weekend!
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lol i know.
i was the only one who voted, “i won’t be watching the nfl playoffs” on shaq43’s fanpost
Roll Shaw
don't like football?
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yeah pretty much. NFL is too slow for me.
i got excited watching stanford this year, but nfl never really interested me. I did go to a seahawks game when i was like 7yrs old though, in seattle
Roll Shaw
oh yeah
I will have a new thread up for that by tomorrow.
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glad to hear that
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nice
good stuff
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But it's so late
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ah
is it freezing?
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Washington Huskies: 2010 Holiday Bowl Champions!
Thanks for a great four years, Jake!
that's warmer than the northwest
but pretty standard for New Mexico
2010 Seattle Seahawks Worst! Division Champion! Ever! I love it!
Washington Huskies: 2010 Holiday Bowl Champions!
Thanks for a great four years, Jake!
Hi Wave
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
Oh gee. What a surprise.
My Cavs trailed by 6 at the end of 1, now they are down by 16. Again.
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Whiskey Alfa Sierra Sierra Uniform Papa Wave!!
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
Er...
Yeah! I love the random word generator too!
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Thanks for a great four years, Jake!
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by bluexfalcon on Jan 14, 2011 6:52 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Hahaha
To a certain sportsguy: shouldn’t the fact that our best player, and the only superstar in this championship series, shot just 6-24, AND YOU STILL LOST, be a testament to the overall ability and greatness of our team, rather than a negative to that certain player? If anything it says a little something more about your team. We beat you even though our best scorer only made 6 shots? Ouch. That’s almost as painful as Tom Brady’s Justin Bieber haircut.
-Rory Stillman
oh..........................
okay
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Washington Huskies: 2010 Holiday Bowl Champions!
Thanks for a great four years, Jake!
as soon as Sasha guards Kobe
blood in the water
by KobeBryantSlamDunkGiant on Jan 14, 2011 6:29 PM PST reply actions
sup peeps
I’ll be joining you all tonight :)
"Phil Jackson seems to enjoy his status as 'NBA grand philosopher' and uses that platform to lob verbal hand grenades into other franchises or the league offices for fun." - Kurt Helin
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What up Blue!
To a certain sportsguy: shouldn’t the fact that our best player, and the only superstar in this championship series, shot just 6-24, AND YOU STILL LOST, be a testament to the overall ability and greatness of our team, rather than a negative to that certain player? If anything it says a little something more about your team. We beat you even though our best scorer only made 6 shots? Ouch. That’s almost as painful as Tom Brady’s Justin Bieber haircut.
-Rory Stillman
sup bro
wats good
"Phil Jackson seems to enjoy his status as 'NBA grand philosopher' and uses that platform to lob verbal hand grenades into other franchises or the league offices for fun." - Kurt Helin
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Cold brother Cold....
To a certain sportsguy: shouldn’t the fact that our best player, and the only superstar in this championship series, shot just 6-24, AND YOU STILL LOST, be a testament to the overall ability and greatness of our team, rather than a negative to that certain player? If anything it says a little something more about your team. We beat you even though our best scorer only made 6 shots? Ouch. That’s almost as painful as Tom Brady’s Justin Bieber haircut.
-Rory Stillman
just click on Lakers about 5 min before game time
http://www.nba.com/broadband/alp_schedule.html
"Phil Jackson seems to enjoy his status as 'NBA grand philosopher' and uses that platform to lob verbal hand grenades into other franchises or the league offices for fun." - Kurt Helin
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kewl
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
oh wait
Kilo Echo Whiskey Lima
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
How could the Knicks get so trounced by the Kings
2010 Seattle Seahawks Worst! Division Champion! Ever! I love it!
Washington Huskies: 2010 Holiday Bowl Champions!
Thanks for a great four years, Jake!
dammit Knicks
"Phil Jackson seems to enjoy his status as 'NBA grand philosopher' and uses that platform to lob verbal hand grenades into other franchises or the league offices for fun." - Kurt Helin
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Beno?
"Phil Jackson seems to enjoy his status as 'NBA grand philosopher' and uses that platform to lob verbal hand grenades into other franchises or the league offices for fun." - Kurt Helin
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They aren't used to playing at hi levels all the time.
So they are tiiiired.
To a certain sportsguy: shouldn’t the fact that our best player, and the only superstar in this championship series, shot just 6-24, AND YOU STILL LOST, be a testament to the overall ability and greatness of our team, rather than a negative to that certain player? If anything it says a little something more about your team. We beat you even though our best scorer only made 6 shots? Ouch. That’s almost as painful as Tom Brady’s Justin Bieber haircut.
-Rory Stillman
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat??
there goes one of my picks.
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
shit
i totally forgot about that.
on TheScore right?
"Phil Jackson seems to enjoy his status as 'NBA grand philosopher' and uses that platform to lob verbal hand grenades into other franchises or the league offices for fun." - Kurt Helin
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yep
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
lol
when is the last time i chose my picks? I’m probably dead last in the SS&R group
"Phil Jackson seems to enjoy his status as 'NBA grand philosopher' and uses that platform to lob verbal hand grenades into other franchises or the league offices for fun." - Kurt Helin
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I missed like 1 week
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
forgot to pick for this week.
Education without values, as useful as it is, seems rather to make man a more clever devil.
C. S. Lewis
We need to change to grow, but let us not grow weary in our pursuit to change...
by rs850_Lakers on Jan 14, 2011 6:59 PM PST up reply actions
I've missed everything
since I made my initial disappearance from SSR. I doubt ur last.
These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson
TRADE KOBY FOR LUTHER HEAD!!!! (it's a movement)
The Bobcats trailed by as many as 11
it’s down to 7
2010 Seattle Seahawks Worst! Division Champion! Ever! I love it!
Washington Huskies: 2010 Holiday Bowl Champions!
Thanks for a great four years, Jake!
むかつく！
I can’t stand the Celtics.
Starting to dislike Ray Allen and that constant smug look on his face almost as much as Pierce.
And I’ve always disliked Shaq since he left the Lakers.
Defense wins championships.
I miss Shaq
He’ll always be a Cavalier to me.
2010 Seattle Seahawks Worst! Division Champion! Ever! I love it!
Washington Huskies: 2010 Holiday Bowl Champions!
Thanks for a great four years, Jake!
I wish he was still a Cavalier
He makes the C’s bigger and provides another option and more fouls.
He’ll always be a ring chaser.
Defense wins championships.
me too
but this is a better place for him. He can win a ring in Boston.
2010 Seattle Seahawks Worst! Division Champion! Ever! I love it!
Washington Huskies: 2010 Holiday Bowl Champions!
Thanks for a great four years, Jake!
You want him to win another one
Who would you go for if the C’s and Lakers meet in this year’s Finals?
Defense wins championships.
The NBA needs an expansion team.
They can call them the Mercenaries, and Shaq can be the center.
"2010 was a kick ass year." - Kobe Bryant
Tweetness: @SoCalGal64
Hahahah
To a certain sportsguy: shouldn’t the fact that our best player, and the only superstar in this championship series, shot just 6-24, AND YOU STILL LOST, be a testament to the overall ability and greatness of our team, rather than a negative to that certain player? If anything it says a little something more about your team. We beat you even though our best scorer only made 6 shots? Ouch. That’s almost as painful as Tom Brady’s Justin Bieber haircut.
-Rory Stillman
C Shaq
F ?
F ?
G ???
G Gary Payton
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
Joe Smith PF
To a certain sportsguy: shouldn’t the fact that our best player, and the only superstar in this championship series, shot just 6-24, AND YOU STILL LOST, be a testament to the overall ability and greatness of our team, rather than a negative to that certain player? If anything it says a little something more about your team. We beat you even though our best scorer only made 6 shots? Ouch. That’s almost as painful as Tom Brady’s Justin Bieber haircut.
-Rory Stillman
F
Vince Carter?
Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."
Antoine Walker is not lookin' good right now
2010 Seattle Seahawks Worst! Division Champion! Ever! I love it!
Washington Huskies: 2010 Holiday Bowl Champions!
Thanks for a great four years, Jake!
Last time he looked good was with the C's back in 04'
To a certain sportsguy: shouldn’t the fact that our best player, and the only superstar in this championship series, shot just 6-24, AND YOU STILL LOST, be a testament to the overall ability and greatness of our team, rather than a negative to that certain player? If anything it says a little something more about your team. We beat you even though our best scorer only made 6 shots? Ouch. That’s almost as painful as Tom Brady’s Justin Bieber haircut.
-Rory Stillman
Dallas is getting trounced
To a certain sportsguy: shouldn’t the fact that our best player, and the only superstar in this championship series, shot just 6-24, AND YOU STILL LOST, be a testament to the overall ability and greatness of our team, rather than a negative to that certain player? If anything it says a little something more about your team. We beat you even though our best scorer only made 6 shots? Ouch. That’s almost as painful as Tom Brady’s Justin Bieber haircut.
-Rory Stillman
Mavs are a total mess without dirk
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
Yup
To a certain sportsguy: shouldn’t the fact that our best player, and the only superstar in this championship series, shot just 6-24, AND YOU STILL LOST, be a testament to the overall ability and greatness of our team, rather than a negative to that certain player? If anything it says a little something more about your team. We beat you even though our best scorer only made 6 shots? Ouch. That’s almost as painful as Tom Brady’s Justin Bieber haircut.
-Rory Stillman
Playing against Sasha and Farmar tonight makes me curious if now that they
are not on the Lakers if they get together and talk major shit about the Lakers. Similar to Smush Parker talking shit after he was no longer a Laker. I would sure like to be a fly on the locker room wall. Somehow, I think that Farmar would be the one doing most of the trash talking.
"Hate me or love me. Its one or the other; always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Jelly Bean Bryant
Smush Parker is an ass. Jordan and Sasha not so much.
"2010 was a kick ass year." - Kobe Bryant
Tweetness: @SoCalGal64
dont know why, but.....
I totally read that as POOP.
Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."
lol awesome
rec’d
"Phil Jackson seems to enjoy his status as 'NBA grand philosopher' and uses that platform to lob verbal hand grenades into other franchises or the league offices for fun." - Kurt Helin
Stalk, err, Follow me on Twitter: @bluefalcon916
Nice
To a certain sportsguy: shouldn’t the fact that our best player, and the only superstar in this championship series, shot just 6-24, AND YOU STILL LOST, be a testament to the overall ability and greatness of our team, rather than a negative to that certain player? If anything it says a little something more about your team. We beat you even though our best scorer only made 6 shots? Ouch. That’s almost as painful as Tom Brady’s Justin Bieber haircut.
-Rory Stillman
So, are the Knicks finally falling back to earth? They scored 83 points tonight.
"2010 was a kick ass year." - Kobe Bryant
Tweetness: @SoCalGal64
lol
more like the Kings played on the Moon
"Phil Jackson seems to enjoy his status as 'NBA grand philosopher' and uses that platform to lob verbal hand grenades into other franchises or the league offices for fun." - Kurt Helin
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to the mothereffin' Kings!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
Oh snap
Magic vs Celtics coming up?
You all know whose side I’m on
2010 Seattle Seahawks Worst! Division Champion! Ever! I love it!
Washington Huskies: 2010 Holiday Bowl Champions!
Thanks for a great four years, Jake!
Duh.
The Magic.
"Phil Jackson seems to enjoy his status as 'NBA grand philosopher' and uses that platform to lob verbal hand grenades into other franchises or the league offices for fun." - Kurt Helin
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Maybe after Howard, Hedo, Jameer, Rashard, Gilbert, Bass, Reddick, and Van Gundy are gone
2010 Seattle Seahawks Worst! Division Champion! Ever! I love it!
Washington Huskies: 2010 Holiday Bowl Champions!
Thanks for a great four years, Jake!
the 2009 conference finals
there’s no way we should have lost that series.
2010 Seattle Seahawks Worst! Division Champion! Ever! I love it!
Washington Huskies: 2010 Holiday Bowl Champions!
Thanks for a great four years, Jake!
Don't blame the Magic. Y'all got outplayed.
"2010 was a kick ass year." - Kobe Bryant
Tweetness: @SoCalGal64
the celtics were the better team
we weren’t going to win jack that year anyway, not with how lebron was playing.
2010 Seattle Seahawks Worst! Division Champion! Ever! I love it!
Washington Huskies: 2010 Holiday Bowl Champions!
Thanks for a great four years, Jake!
LOL, how could you not give the Magic the same credit?
"2010 was a kick ass year." - Kobe Bryant
Tweetness: @SoCalGal64
because losing to them hurt more
i have no respect for them or their style of play.
2010 Seattle Seahawks Worst! Division Champion! Ever! I love it!
Washington Huskies: 2010 Holiday Bowl Champions!
Thanks for a great four years, Jake!
they play like little girls
and whine about every call
Lebron needs verizon, he aint getting no ring - New Boyz
how they seem to make every fucking 3 pointer they ever take
against us, anyway
and dwight rules by sheer aggression and elbows. He complains about every call against him.
2010 Seattle Seahawks Worst! Division Champion! Ever! I love it!
Washington Huskies: 2010 Holiday Bowl Champions!
Thanks for a great four years, Jake!
Seems the C's were in the Cavs way more often than the Magic.
I’m starting to think you’re a closet C’s fan.
Defense wins championships.
just because i prefer them to the magic?
2010 Seattle Seahawks Worst! Division Champion! Ever! I love it!
Washington Huskies: 2010 Holiday Bowl Champions!
Thanks for a great four years, Jake!
I'm getting that feeling from the totality of your comments
Not just today’s
Defense wins championships.
is it because i was rooting for them in the playoffs after we got eliminated
2010 Seattle Seahawks Worst! Division Champion! Ever! I love it!
Washington Huskies: 2010 Holiday Bowl Champions!
Thanks for a great four years, Jake!
just a feeling
or you’re a closet Laker hater and just don’t come out because you’re respected on this blog.
but talking about Shaq and the C’s getting a ring is not cool in Lakerland… I don’t know why you think it is… At least not in my opinion.
Defense wins championships.
sigh...
thestuff01, i had hoped this moment would never come. But it looks like it’s time I explained myself. Do you really want to hear it?
2010 Seattle Seahawks Worst! Division Champion! Ever! I love it!
Washington Huskies: 2010 Holiday Bowl Champions!
Thanks for a great four years, Jake!
You see,
Yes, it’s true. There are times when I like to root against the Lakers. However, it has NOTHING to do with the team and NOTHING to do with any of you guys. I consider you guys some of the most wonderful people I had the pleasure to talk sports with, and just chat on the Internet in general.
I am what you might call a bandwagon anti-fan. I like to root against whoever the defending champion is. I used to root against San Antonio. Then it was Boston. And for the last two years, I considered the Lakers to be rivals. I don’t know why, but I can’t shake that feeling even though LeBron is gone.
I don’t want to feel this way. Really, I don’t. If the Lakers weren’t two-time defending champions, they’d be as a cool as a cucumber. But the way it is now, I like seeing really bad teams prevail against them here and there. However, please understand…I can root for the Lakers in some games when they play certain opponents. And not just Miami and Orlando.
I’m sorry, thestuff01. I hoped I wouldn’t have to tell you guys this. Please don’t think I’m trying to hurt your feelings. I’m not. I would never want to do that. All I want to do here is make friends and have fun talking about basketball and other things with people. If I made you upset, I’ll stay away for a long time.
2010 Seattle Seahawks Worst! Division Champion! Ever! I love it!
Washington Huskies: 2010 Holiday Bowl Champions!
Thanks for a great four years, Jake!
As long as you can continue to take the flogging some of us heap on you
when we catch you rooting against the Lakers. ;-)
So who would you root for if the Lakers and Celtics end up in a Finals rematch this season?
"Please tell me some of these stories about Los Angeles being the basketball capital of the world." - Red Auerbach
"质量是我们的尊严。服务是我们的电梯。" ("Quality is our dignity. Service is our lift.")
I’ll take whatever flogging you guys want to give me. As long I can continue to come back.
In a rematch…I don’t know yet. I’ll try to root for the Lakers. I will try.
2010 Seattle Seahawks Worst! Division Champion! Ever! I love it!
Washington Huskies: 2010 Holiday Bowl Champions!
Thanks for a great four years, Jake!
making friends and talking about basketball are good goals
OK, so you’re a little complicated, whatever. You don’t have to stay away on account of me. I’m sure other people here already knew that.
Everyone is different. I used to root for San Antonio in the Finals because they’re a small market team and represent the West. Whatever.
But I do get pumped when I come here as a respite against the hate and to read about all things great concerning the Lakers, and see veiled comments about rooting for the Celtics and about Shaq having an opportunity to get another ring with the Celtics.
I don’t come here to read good things about the Celtics. I come here to hear people trashing them and praising the Lakers or showing concern for the Lakers success. Otherwise, I’d join Celtics blog and spend time there with other like-minded people. If I did, I’m sure I’d be banned because I’m an outspoken Lakers fan and I can’t hide that.
Peace.
Defense wins championships.
I don’t come here to read good things about the Celtics. I come here to hear people trashing them and praising the Lakers or showing concern for the Lakers success. Otherwise, I’d join Celtics blog and spend time there with other like-minded people. If I did, I’m sure I’d be banned because I’m an outspoken Lakers fan and I can’t hide that.
I understand. You’re perfectly entitled to want something like that. I would never intend to force my fandom on you.
I like being on this site. I like talking with Laker fans. I just can’t change who I am. But out of respect for you, I’ll tone down my comments whenever Shaq or the Celtics are brought up.
2010 Seattle Seahawks Worst! Division Champion! Ever! I love it!
Washington Huskies: 2010 Holiday Bowl Champions!
Thanks for a great four years, Jake!
Oh Wave
I already knew this about you. Especially since you had some ’splainin to do from the last time we played the Clippers. lol.
These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson
TRADE KOBY FOR LUTHER HEAD!!!! (it's a movement)
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