Report: Brian Shaw "Most Realistic" Candidate to Succeed Phil Jackson
by DexterFishmore on Jan 13, 2011 8:15 PM PST
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PrintOver at Hoops World, Alex Kennedy has an article today about the Lakers' succession planning in the event that Phil Jackson decides to retire after this season. Obvs, we're a long way from having to worry about this, but Kennedy is a respected NBA reporter who unlike me doesn't shamelessly troll for page views, so his report on this topic is worth reading. Although much of the ground he covers won't surprise anyone who followed Phil's decision-making process last summer, there are some interesting morsels to chew on.
For instance, there's apparently a belief that Phil would be more likely to return to the Lakers in the event of an NBA lockout. A shortened schedule, the theory goes, could make one more season on the bench more palatable to Phil, as he considers his various health issues. That said, Kennedy writes, "the Lakers aren't crossing their fingers."
There's mention of Larry Brown as a possible replacement, but he strikes me as a quite poor fit for the purple and gold. Though I suspect he'd do great things for the Lakers' team defense, I can't imagine that the squad's accomplished veterans would be hugely interested to play for such an uber-controlling figure. I likewise can't imagine that Brown would be happy coaching for an organization in which he'd have little to no control over personnel.
There's also the obligatory paragraph about (*armpit fart noises*) Byron Scott. Kennedy, I feel, gives this possibility way more credence than it deserves.
Byron Scott refers to the Los Angeles Lakers' gig as his "dream job" and should he be relieved of his duties in Cleveland, there's no question he would be on the first plane to Los Angeles.
OF COURSE it's his dream job! Why wouldn't it be? More to the point, how is that a qualification? I can keep referring to the T-Mobile 4G spokesmodel as my "dream girl," but that's not getting her into my van, is it?
Scott grew up in California and spent eleven years with the Lakers during his playing career. While the Cavaliers signed him to a three-year contract over the summer, the team's struggles could lead to his firing which would allow him to pursue the job he has been eyeing since his coaching career started taking off.
So Byron would get fired by the worst team on the planet, and then immediately get hired to coach the Lakers? Yeah... I don't know, dude. I realize Byron's been dealt a gruesome hand with that Cavs roster, but the Chernobyl-quality meltdown happening in Cleveland on his watch isn't exactly burnishing his credentials. People fail upward all the time in this world, but I can't see Jerry Buss and Mitch Kupchak rushing to employ a guy Dan Gilbert just shitcanned after a 14-win season.
In the end, Kennedy comes back to the candidate whom we know should and probably would get the gig: The Shawfather.
[T]he most realistic option is turning the franchise over to lead assistant Brian Shaw. After nearly accepting the head coaching job in Cleveland, Shaw withdrew from consideration which led to Scott's hiring. Many league sources believe that Jackson and the Lakers would feel the most comfortable handing Shaw the keys to the franchise because there wouldn't be a philosophical shift or drastic changes. Shaw is comfortable with the personnel and has developed close relationships with many of the players in his eleven years with the organization.
Phil would be comfortable, the Lakers would be comfortable, and most important, we at Silver Screen and Roll would be comfortable. That's called a win-win-win. And the coup de grace....
Should Shaw get the job, don't be surprised if he fills out his staff with fellow assistants and possibly fellow Oakland native and good friend Gary Payton, according to league sources.
GP back in Lakerdom, barking out orders to Ron Artest? Hoooo boy. Pass the popcorn.
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GP?
Don’t know about that one….
"Everything negative - pressure, challenges - is all an opportunity for me to rise."
- Kobe B. Bryant
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Gary Payton did not act professionally, at all, during his stint on NBATV, and thats my last impression of him. What impression is that? It is of him acting a hooligan and making Chris Webber cut up and laugh and cackle uncontrollably instead of giving useful NBA analysis. It was a dark year for NBATV… a dark year indeed.
He was horrible.
No doubt
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by bluexfalcon on Jan 13, 2011 8:27 PM PST reply actions 12 recs
And if you guys haven't seen the excellent Shawfather Series by Koshu
Here is the latest one:
http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2011/1/9/1924303/the-shawfather-part-iv-struggle-for-power
And here is the Open Call for it:
http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2011/1/6/1910615/shawfather-credits-and-open-call
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i put in my bid for the casting call
just responded koshu
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Is that a Koshu graphic?
That guy’s a master.
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by DexterFishmore on Jan 13, 2011 9:10 PM PST up reply actions
Yes.
He’s our resident multimedia expert.
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by bluexfalcon on Jan 13, 2011 11:07 PM PST up reply actions
indeed
i think he’s the one who made s43’s new win gif…
"No one wins forever. Only thing that matters is how you face it when the cards don't come up your way. I'm not afraid." - Spider-Man (Amazing Spider-Man #475)
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Thanks all!
Two games in relatively quick succession vs. Boston loom. I’m sure those will lend themselves to some interesting possibilities in plot development!
As for the succession plan, Shaw looks like a shoo-in. But will he be the next PAT RAILLY or Randy Pfund? Mitch Kupchak’s abilities to keep the roster top shelf will have some effect on that (talk about a guy who Shaw can confide in if things don’t exactly go 100% to plan during the seasons immediately following the departure of a legend).
Of course, he’s the Shawfather, so maybe he’ll just rig karma in his favor (it has recently been proven that not everyone in the NBA is good at managing the karma thing).
"Please tell me some of these stories about Los Angeles being the basketball capital of the world." - Red Auerbach
"质量是我们的尊严。服务是我们的电梯。" ("Quality is our dignity. Service is our lift.")
Of course, he’s the Shawfather, so maybe he’ll just rig karma in his favor (it has recently been proven that not everyone in the NBA is good at managing the karma thing).
The Shawfather makes his own luck for sure ;) Scene: Moe Greene Rambis, Barzini Scott, Tataglia Westphal?, and Tessio Coach K all taken out left incapacitated (would not be able to answer the phone if the Lakers did call) followed out by some button men by order of Michael Kobe on the day the Lakers are too decide who the next don coach will be.
and yeah, yeah I know the Heat got their arses kicked, and Karma is a bitch and all ;)
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--Son Volt from the song "Windfall"
I dont like brown
he has never really got along with players at his various coaching stops. I remember he alienated practically the entire olympic team when he coached them with his strict rules and that was a significant reason why they didnt go far that year. Please appoint the Shawfather once PJ calls it quits.
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
If Iverson,
Iverson!!!!!, can learn to respect and play for Brown, I think most others can. The only problem is that he is the exact antithesis of what most of our players have had to deal with their whole career. That’s why he’s not a good fit for me.
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Yes pass the popcorn indeed
I guess I’ll fully get into detail of this once we are at that bridge
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by BrittneyM on Jan 13, 2011 8:48 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Not much, but a step in the right direction for NY
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/news/story?id=6019859
Faith.... a fan's biggest downfall
I'm not believing any Carmelo stuff until the trade officially happens
And even then i’ll be suspicious
"Just be patient with us. We’ll be fine [by the end of the season]." – Phil Jackson.
really dont know why the Knicks would trade away Fields or Chandler for him
why mess with what is working? if melo was smart, he would wait until the offseason and sign as a FA instead of demanding NY to ship away key pieces for him.
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
Because Melo is an all world talent
No one is willing to give Melo the respect he deserves
Maybe not Fields because he's the ultimate team player along with Turiaf
but I could see Chandler being traded for him. They’ll eventually have to get rid of someone if they want to take on that contract anyway.
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TRADE KOBY FOR LUTHER HEAD!!!! (it's a movement)
I thought they have some cap space?
Just sign him when he is a free agent on something backloaded
Roll Shaw
they have some cap space
but they’d still have to trade someone in order to get him in the trade because Melo would want to be traded so he can still get his money.
These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson
TRADE KOBY FOR LUTHER HEAD!!!! (it's a movement)
in all honesty
i hope the trade to NJN happens tomorrow
distracted nets = easier win
we will have already played the nets twice, so we won’t play melo in njn
plus, the next two times we play the nuggs we miss melo
needs to happen because I am sick of hearing about it
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me too
right up there with any report about that football guy..Farvruhrehurerer……..what ever
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by bigdeal1188 on Jan 14, 2011 12:20 AM PST up reply actions
Shaws Dynasty is gonna be rediculas
Kevin Durant,Derrick Rose,Adam Morrison in his prime,and louis Williams
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by Czheck on Jan 13, 2011 9:04 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
apart of the coaching staff in some way i would hope
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What's up Czheck?! Is it just me or have you been laying low these days?
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more Shawfather pictures:
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
by shaqfor3 on Jan 13, 2011 9:10 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
lmfao
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Awww damn, you had to show the booger pic?!
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Shaw also has his own SBNation account:
http://www.sbnation.com/users/Brian%20Shaw
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
If Brian Shaw actually becomes head coach
the legends/photoshops are going to be epic
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Holy crap.
Denver destroying Miami atm.
And LOL, did LeBron really take a game off with the ankle injury? What a bitch.
Kobe Bryant used to be a fourth-quarter assassin. Now older, Kobe's impact is completely intangible in the fourth. Why? He's too busy chillin' on the bench after murdering the third.
"KB#8 wanted to show and prove that he was the best, and hence he would sometimes sacrifice his team in order to show it.
KB#24 KNOWS he is the best." - grail
NUGGETS R RUNNIN UP TEH SCORE!!!11111111
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
...need to see that.
my swim team is making fun of me for not having seen
1) the hangover
2) the big lebowski
3) boondock saints
Roll Shaw
dude
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
making a reference to the 2nd movie, which I havent seen yet, in fact I havent seen any of those movies
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
lol i knew that dude
which is why i responded with a dude. didn’t know that you haven’t watched it yet as well though dude. But even my coach was raggin on me for not having watched the hangover
Roll Shaw
lol
my bad
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
didnt know he was trying to make a reference to the big lebowski
after I made a reference to it.
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
ahh i see
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by purple_gold on Jan 13, 2011 10:07 PM PST up reply actions
great movie.
I own it. I’m a big Tarantino-movie fan.
Also, I just saw the Big Lebowski for the first time over this past Christmas. My husband bought it for me as a gag/white elephant type gift. I have no idea how I escaped seeing it before a month or so ago, but there you go. It was way better than I imagined it was going to be. I expected it to be funny, but stupid funny and I usually can’t stand stupid funny (think Dumb and Dumber) but this wasn’t at all like that. It had so many notable actors, all of whom I really like. Good flick.
Tarantino is overrated!!!
that is all.
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TRADE KOBY FOR LUTHER HEAD!!!! (it's a movement)
haven't seen the big lebowski whatever that is
i get weird looks for not knowing anything about monty python so it’s ok
Fuck, I miss Ammo and winning.
Hey Dex, wishing might not get the T-Mobile chick into your van, but this should help:
Assuming of course her name is Mary…and she’s 6.
Wait, that’s just wrong.
Never mind.
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by LOOOeee on Jan 13, 2011 9:30 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Hmm...
I’m not supposed to hand out cupcakes anymore, at least according to that snooty judge.
Please remember: it's not my fault your team sucks.
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by DexterFishmore on Jan 13, 2011 9:30 PM PST up reply actions
Meh, fake him out. He'll never know the difference.
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delicious, nonetheless.
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by bluexfalcon on Jan 13, 2011 11:14 PM PST up reply actions
Cupcakes that look like burgers :)
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Play the game of which Lakers reminds you of: Devin Ebanks - TA - TI, Shannon Brown - Chris Brown, Pau Gasol - Jesus, Machine - Luis Scola/Russell Brand, PJ with mustache and beard - Colonel Sanders.
by PeanutButterSpread on Jan 14, 2011 12:04 AM PST up reply actions
I Can Has Cheez....wait a minute....
"Winning takes talent; to repeat takes character." - John Wooden
the T-mobile girl?
<3
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
danmit i was hoping denver would get to a 100
instead they started chuckin
Fuck, I miss Ammo and winning.
98-68 at the end of 3
"Just be patient with us. We’ll be fine [by the end of the season]." – Phil Jackson.
where's SCG?
this dude I follow posted this on his twitter:
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
I think so
he said on the tweet that they are “finished.”
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
I want some
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by bluexfalcon on Jan 13, 2011 11:20 PM PST up reply actions
Yum. Now I have to go buy cooking makings this weekend.
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99bc99, i read your comment about your feelings towards the Cavs
That made me feel good. It was really sweet of you.
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Looks like LeBron's new team isn't that much of an upgrade
2010 Seattle Seahawks Worst! Division Champion! Ever! I love it!
Washington Huskies: 2010 Holiday Bowl Champions!
Thanks for a great four years, Jake!
"Isn't karma a b****?"
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Play the game of which Lakers reminds you of: Devin Ebanks - TA - TI, Shannon Brown - Chris Brown, Pau Gasol - Jesus, Machine - Luis Scola/Russell Brand, PJ with mustache and beard - Colonel Sanders.
by PeanutButterSpread on Jan 13, 2011 10:02 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Somebody tweet that to LeBron, please.
Kobe Bryant used to be a fourth-quarter assassin. Now older, Kobe's impact is completely intangible in the fourth. Why? He's too busy chillin' on the bench after murdering the third.
"KB#8 wanted to show and prove that he was the best, and hence he would sometimes sacrifice his team in order to show it.
KB#24 KNOWS he is the best." - grail
by Saurav A. Das on Jan 13, 2011 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
could apply to yesterday as well
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
Definitely applied to last night
How fitting instant karma it was that one night after tweeting “karma’s a b****” … the Heat end up losing. That’s karma right there. Tonight’s loss, was merely a great heaping of icing to top that karma.
Lakers 2009 Road to Redemption: TREVOR, DEREK, LAMAR, PAU & KOBE.
Play the game of which Lakers reminds you of: Devin Ebanks - TA - TI, Shannon Brown - Chris Brown, Pau Gasol - Jesus, Machine - Luis Scola/Russell Brand, PJ with mustache and beard - Colonel Sanders.
by PeanutButterSpread on Jan 13, 2011 10:42 PM PST up reply actions
Heat lose their 11th game
no 72-10 for them.
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
LOL
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by purple_gold on Jan 13, 2011 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
KOBY RULEZ!!!!!1111111
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
Better make a run on some Cracker Jacks!
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did anyone read lebron's explination of his tweet today?
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classic lebron james huh?
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by purple_gold on Jan 13, 2011 10:12 PM PST up reply actions
way off topic but i was just curious
how do you compute points per possession? i get how you do it (divide total points by possessions) but how do you compute possessions? field goal attempts plus turnovers?
good question
dex should know
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yeah im pretty sure it includes them
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by purple_gold on Jan 13, 2011 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
I would think points off FT attempts get factored in
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free throw attempts
don’t count as possessions
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I meant as an individual possession
like a ft doesn’t count as a separate possession from the possession that led to fts. lol.
These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson
TRADE KOBY FOR LUTHER HEAD!!!! (it's a movement)
That sounds so confusing in writing
instead of being in my head.
These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson
TRADE KOBY FOR LUTHER HEAD!!!! (it's a movement)
lol
u le me lone
These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson
TRADE KOBY FOR LUTHER HEAD!!!! (it's a movement)
I missed this place too
but I’m definitely enjoying the fact that ATL is so bad at handling snow I’ve had no classes this week. lol.
These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson
TRADE KOBY FOR LUTHER HEAD!!!! (it's a movement)
yea
got not idea what that company is. lol. I’ll probably look it up now. lol.
These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson
TRADE KOBY FOR LUTHER HEAD!!!! (it's a movement)
he counts them by hand during games using spreadsheets
a possession ends in either a score, turnover. freethrows are part of one possesion, as well as offensive rebounds.
Roll Shaw
talking about dedication for dex
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by purple_gold on Jan 13, 2011 10:13 PM PST up reply actions
Correct
A possession starts when one team gets the ball and ends when either (a) the other team gets the ball back, or (b) the period/game ends.
For the PPP numbers you see on the site, I count them one by one to make it exact. If you want to make a rough estimate of a team’s possessions in a game, do this:
Estimated Possessions = 0.44*FTA + FGA + Turnovers – Offensive Rebounds
Please remember: it's not my fault your team sucks.
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by DexterFishmore on Jan 13, 2011 10:15 PM PST up reply actions
Really? Then someone screwed up
That shouldn’t go into the books as a TO. I don’t think I’ve seen that in an official play-by-play log. Might be just a Gamecast thing.
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by DexterFishmore on Jan 13, 2011 10:20 PM PST up reply actions
Yes, but...
In my calculations I disregard end-period possessions where a team has like, 0.6 seconds and doesn’t really attempt to make a play.
Please remember: it's not my fault your team sucks.
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by DexterFishmore on Jan 13, 2011 10:18 PM PST up reply actions
Depends
If a team actually tries to score on the possession, I’ll count it. But if a guy’s just dribbling the clock out at halfcourt, I won’t.
Please remember: it's not my fault your team sucks.
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by DexterFishmore on Jan 13, 2011 10:21 PM PST up reply actions
ohh now i get it
how about the thing you do with players points in this number of attempts (including free throw attempts)?
Basically, when I say that a player “has scored X points in Y shots (including free-throw possessions),” the denominator – in other words, what I’m counting as a “shot” – includes (a) officially recorded field-goal attempts and (b) trips to the free-throw line for two or three shots. So, say Kobe does this…
- Field-goal attempt
- Field-goal attempt
- Missed shot, but fouled, so 2 free-throws
- Field-goal attempt with an “and one” free throw
In the official box score it’s reflected as 3 FGAs and 3 FTAs. But I convert it into a common currency and say he took “4 shots.”
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by DexterFishmore on Jan 13, 2011 10:36 PM PST up reply actions
he excludes last second full court heaves as time expires cause that doesn't measure efficiency
Roll Shaw
so if we get fouled
and miss the second freethrow, get the offensive board, and the process repeats itself, we could get like 10 points in one possession? kewl
Roll Shaw
Mmmm.....
While Shaw has been groomed to be a head coach, it still kind of terrifies me to think this would be his first gig as the head coach.
It still a long ways into the future. Thats something for “future us” to worry about.
Shaw is not Riley though.We don't know yet. He might be the biggest mistake or a new gem in the rough.
Is it times like these that we go with young and familiarity or experienced and new?
I really don’t have a set opinion on who should be the next coach. I hear McMilian is in his last year in Portland. Should they try to go for Coach K again? Just like Carol, I think he eventually will go pro.
Im just trying to ruffle feathers.
Ya he just went there
Shawfather will not be amused.
if we knew that the current era of the Lakers was ending with Phil's last season as Lakers coach
then we could probably go for someone other than shaw.
however, if we are going to try to continue to win with KobeGasolOdomFishBynum, then familiarity has increased importance.
No one wants to sit next to you on the bus now. Sorry.
"2010 was a kick ass year." - Kobe Bryant
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Dude, that's sweet, but you will sit on the roof of the bus, you know, in case the Shawfather wants to torch your ass.
"2010 was a kick ass year." - Kobe Bryant
Tweetness: @SoCalGal64
lol
nice new pic Dex
it says “I’m pondering your argument, but it is invalid”
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somehow I omitted it from the original draft
Please remember: it's not my fault your team sucks.
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by DexterFishmore on Jan 13, 2011 11:19 PM PST up reply actions
I'm talking about your profile pic
self drawn?
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by bluexfalcon on Jan 13, 2011 11:29 PM PST up reply actions
oh - that
No, not a self portrait. An artist’s rendition. Thought I’d use it as an avatar for a while at least.
Please remember: it's not my fault your team sucks.
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by DexterFishmore on Jan 13, 2011 11:30 PM PST up reply actions
looks dope
I like it
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by bluexfalcon on Jan 13, 2011 11:35 PM PST up reply actions
yes,
it does look cool.
It’s VERY different from his actual photo if you ask me (I think it has to do with the hair) but I love it when people change their profile pics and when they post either a picture or a likeness of themselves (makes them seem more real or something), as it keeps things interesting.
I take back all previous
flirtatious comments.
These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson
TRADE KOBY FOR LUTHER HEAD!!!! (it's a movement)
A tall revolutionist
who looks like a dude. I’ll pass. lol.
These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson
TRADE KOBY FOR LUTHER HEAD!!!! (it's a movement)
LOL, Huey looks like a little girl. An angry little girl.
"2010 was a kick ass year." - Kobe Bryant
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diary of a mad revolutionist???
These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson
TRADE KOBY FOR LUTHER HEAD!!!! (it's a movement)
God, please keep Tyler Fucking Perry from making a movie of that!
It would star Janet Jackson and Rick Fox.
"2010 was a kick ass year." - Kobe Bryant
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with a special guest appearance
from himself. lol
These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson
TRADE KOBY FOR LUTHER HEAD!!!! (it's a movement)
He's a worse actor than Nicolas Cage, and that is definitely saying something.
"2010 was a kick ass year." - Kobe Bryant
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I disagree.
Nicolas Cage is horrible.
Michael Bay is too
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by bluexfalcon on Jan 14, 2011 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
Nicolas Cage is the worst actor in the world.
What makes Tyler Perry worse than the worst is that he isn’t even an actor so he should stop doing it.
Michael Bay doesn’t act in his own stuff, does he? I don’t know anything about that.
"2010 was a kick ass year." - Kobe Bryant
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agreed
I was talking about M.B being bad at making movies. lol
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by bluexfalcon on Jan 14, 2011 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
But he BLOWS shit up!! awesome talent!
Sarge Clemins
by Big John Stud on Jan 14, 2011 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
The man abused and exploited my childhood!
The Transformers is a sexed up laughing stock and the rest of his movies will make Navy guys seasick.
"Winning takes talent; to repeat takes character." - John Wooden
Blows shit up
better than anyone else though. He could never really do a film with too much dialogue though. Once more and more dialogue comes in, it really shows his inability to properly portray what he wants, except explosions which is what most people want to see anyways from his films. lol.
These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson
TRADE KOBY FOR LUTHER HEAD!!!! (it's a movement)
Keep Tyler Perry from making a movie of anything. Except maybe family home movies.
"Winning takes talent; to repeat takes character." - John Wooden
Tyler Perry Over......wait for it....
rated!
Sarge Clemins
by Big John Stud on Jan 14, 2011 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
Those probably aren't any good either if he's in them.
"2010 was a kick ass year." - Kobe Bryant
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They're not all bad
he just needs to stop putting himself in them.
These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson
TRADE KOBY FOR LUTHER HEAD!!!! (it's a movement)
It's great.
But now it will take a bit longer to pick out your comments without having the purple and gold DF to hone in on.
"2010 was a kick ass year." - Kobe Bryant
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I love T-Mobile girl!
[swoons]
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Catherine Zeta-J?
^^ I kid, I know you’re talking about the new one, but I kinda miss CZJ, just like I miss the 1-800-Collect1 (don’t know if I typed that correctly) commercials with Alyssa Milano.
Lakers 2009 Road to Redemption: TREVOR, DEREK, LAMAR, PAU & KOBE.
Play the game of which Lakers reminds you of: Devin Ebanks - TA - TI, Shannon Brown - Chris Brown, Pau Gasol - Jesus, Machine - Luis Scola/Russell Brand, PJ with mustache and beard - Colonel Sanders.
by PeanutButterSpread on Jan 13, 2011 11:37 PM PST up reply actions
I remember those commercials!
lol. :)
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by bluexfalcon on Jan 13, 2011 11:39 PM PST up reply actions
we seem to be in agreement then
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by bluexfalcon on Jan 13, 2011 11:39 PM PST up reply actions
I disagree with this thought. I am already in a room
And so is blue probably. I have no desire to leave said room and join blue in w/e room he is in. No wishes for you
Roll Shaw
I'm on a horse.
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by bluexfalcon on Jan 13, 2011 11:48 PM PST up reply actions
I’m on a horse.
That’s what… nah, it’s too easy…
Incomplete, idiot.
by angelofdeath on Jan 13, 2011 11:51 PM PST up reply actions
I like the first one. She has milf factor about her now.
New is cute too.
Hmm... might have to do a poll on this
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by DexterFishmore on Jan 14, 2011 12:15 AM PST up reply actions
Agreed.
"Phil Jackson seems to enjoy his status as 'NBA grand philosopher' and uses that platform to lob verbal hand grenades into other franchises or the league offices for fun." - Kurt Helin
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Wonder when we'll see this.
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"2010 was a kick ass year." - Kobe Bryant
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If Shannon ever gets a tattoo on his neck or face, I hope Monica kicks his ass.
If she doesn’t, I will.
"2010 was a kick ass year." - Kobe Bryant
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Yankee Oscar Uniform
Alpha Romeo Echo
Delta Oscar India November Golf
India Tango
Whiskey Romeo Oscar November Golf
Roll Shaw
Hahaha I got it....
To a certain sportsguy: shouldn’t the fact that our best player, and the only superstar in this championship series, shot just 6-24, AND YOU STILL LOST, be a testament to the overall ability and greatness of our team, rather than a negative to that certain player? If anything it says a little something more about your team. We beat you even though our best scorer only made 6 shots? Ouch. That’s almost as painful as Tom Brady’s Justin Bieber haircut.
-Rory Stillman
You think getting a tat on his neck is bad...check this out
Gucci mane got one on his face after getting released from a metal health facility…smh
rofl
Just rofl
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by bluexfalcon on Jan 14, 2011 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
Looks like they released him too early.
Mint chocolate chip with a sprinkle of lightning from the looks of it.
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lol
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by bluexfalcon on Jan 14, 2011 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
"Yo, mang, gimme one on my cheek. Make it, uh, oh yeah, make it a ice cream cone, wit, uh, lightnin' bolts.
Whatchu mean you don’t do that? I want a ice cream cone with lightnin’ bolts comin’ out da top. Right here on my face. Yeah, right dere. Cool, mang. Get to it. YEAH BOYEEE!"
"2010 was a kick ass year." - Kobe Bryant
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by SoCalGal on Jan 14, 2011 12:20 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
sounds just like him
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by bluexfalcon on Jan 14, 2011 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
"I got some ice cream, and you cain't have none. I got some ice cream, and you cain't have none."
"2010 was a kick ass year." - Kobe Bryant
Tweetness: @SoCalGal64
"ice cream on my face, with a lightning bolt. ice cream on my face with a lightning bolt."
(sing to the tune of Lemonade. lol.)
These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson
TRADE KOBY FOR LUTHER HEAD!!!! (it's a movement)
and here i thought i was the only one in love with the new t-mobile girl
"If you can't beat 'em... join 'em."-- Lebron James
haha
that’s my future baby momma
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Slow down there, buckaroo. Keep that zipper up for now.
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lol
Her name is Carly Foulkes btw
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Ugh, Larry Brown
Dude would bench Bynum and play Ratliff 30 minutes a game because he “plays the right way.” One of the worst personnel decision-makers in the league. Augustin over Lopez, trading a future first for Ajinca and then giving up on him, and whatnot.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Imo, Shaw is better to replace Phil for the sake of continuity of triangle O with current squad, well at least 3-4 years or may be till kobe retired
Education without values, as useful as it is, seems rather to make man a more clever devil.
C. S. Lewis
We need to change to grow, but let us not grow weary in our pursuit to change...
look what the Machine said:
“People that played for Phil and know him, they know him very well and he likes to play mind games with people,‘’ Vujacic said. "And if you’re good enough, he’s going to do that until you break. And I just didn’t want to break; I didn’t want to do anything stupid or anything, that would cost me later on, so – his mind games of playing me two or three minutes, pulling me out for every mistake, actually made me stronger, mentally, and made me work even harder. So it helped me to become better.’’
Personally Sasha, it was like 20 secs not 2 mins. LOL
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Look what he's doing for NJ.
The dude can play, Phil just wasn’t the right coach for him.
Kobe Bryant used to be a fourth-quarter assassin. Now older, Kobe's impact is completely intangible in the fourth. Why? He's too busy chillin' on the bench after murdering the third.
"KB#8 wanted to show and prove that he was the best, and hence he would sometimes sacrifice his team in order to show it.
KB#24 KNOWS he is the best." - grail
by Saurav A. Das on Jan 14, 2011 9:49 AM PST up reply actions
He's not really playing that well for New Jersey...
Just “okay”
He could be doing the same thing in LA and we’d be losing. He’s still making some tough mistakes over there in NJ
"Hell no to Larry Brown"!!!
To a certain sportsguy: shouldn’t the fact that our best player, and the only superstar in this championship series, shot just 6-24, AND YOU STILL LOST, be a testament to the overall ability and greatness of our team, rather than a negative to that certain player? If anything it says a little something more about your team. We beat you even though our best scorer only made 6 shots? Ouch. That’s almost as painful as Tom Brady’s Justin Bieber haircut.
-Rory Stillman
"Hell no to Larry Brown"
Tim Duncan wins championships. Vince Carters fills the arenas.
Kobe Bryant does both.
The ideal way to win a championship is step by step.
-Phil Jackson
"hell no to Larry Brown"
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
Why didn't you type...
Hotel Echo Lima Lima November Oscar Tango Oscar Lima Alpha Romeo Romeo Yankee Bravo Romeo Oscar Whiskey November?
"2010 was a kick ass year." - Kobe Bryant
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I thought you put a bounty on my head
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
LOL, like that's stopped you before.
And, yes, I did.
"2010 was a kick ass year." - Kobe Bryant
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Hotel Echo Lima Lima November Oscar Tango Oscar Lima Alpha Romeo Romeo Yankee Bravo Romeo Oscar Whiskey November
"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung
Hahahaha.
Shawfather would use his Ninjitsu and be a ninja, in an enclosed room with LED lights everywhere.
He cannot be stopped. He gave Sauron the One Ring.
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by bluexfalcon on Jan 14, 2011 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
hahaha....
I like the Shawfather jokes, they remind me of the Chuck Norris jokes but bettter and funnier.
The Shawfather wouldnt even have to lift his hand.
He would call upon AMMO and Intagibles to banish Chuck Norris from the universe.
"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung
BTW
This is my first time posting something. I always enjoy reading all of the articles written on this site. My fav. is reading the comments though. Most of the comments are pretty clever and funny. Keep up the good work Dex and everyone else as well.
thanks man!
Hope to see you around some mo’
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by bluexfalcon on Jan 14, 2011 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
Welcome Chris!!
u are approved to be commenting here according to Sarge! lol
Sarge Clemins
by Big John Stud on Jan 14, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
Never Byron
I love Byron Scott. He brought me many happy moments during the 80s but as a coach never. He was at the helm of the 2 most lopsided losses I can remember. A 121 – 63 loss to the nuggets when he was the hornet coach and the 112- 57 debacle the other night. 2 games were the opponent almost doubled their points. The 121- 63 loss was my biggest argument against him. Then add the 112 – 57 loss to that resume, where the lakers were 1 bucket away from doubling their points. something i have never seen. It says too much about him as a coach. His players quit on him.
by John Blazington on Jan 14, 2011 12:36 PM PST reply actions
That lopsided score also says something about the players.
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