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Player Preview: Sasha Vujacic

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This is the fifth in our series of Player Previews, in which we discuss what to expect in the coming season from each of the 2010-11 Los Angeles Lakers. Up today is Sasha Vujacic, also known as the "Machine."  

Sasha Vujacic might be the most hated player in the NBA. Well, maybe that's Vince Carter, but Sasha's definitely the most annoying. Unfortunate, but true. I don't come across any fans of other teams who like him at all, and honestly, there aren't too many Lakers fans who still like him either. They can tell you about the one-man full court press that usually results in the Lakers getting in early foul trouble to start the second and fourth quarters. Or the arguments with teammates and coaches. The Steve Nash-like finger-lick-hair-fixing thing. Then the outside shot that's become terribly inconsistent. Oh, and did I mention he's making $6 million per year for all of this? Therein lies the real problem. The money he got paid versus the player he's become.

The Sasha who earned his contract in 2007-2008 shot the lights out. He averaged 8.8 points and shot 45.3% from the field and 43.7% on threes in 17.8 minutes per game over 72 games. Also, he was a decent defender. Quick and tall, he was able to guard both guard positions while also spacing the floor with a lightning-quick killer long range shot. He was the "Machine." It seemed he never missed two in a row. Then Ray Allen's 2008 Game Four blow-by happened, and the money came, and he became a star. Or so he thought. In 2008-2009, he tried to do too much.  Like insisting on taking stop-and-pop jumpers fading left or constantly reaching in for steals on defense. Hey, I'm all for a player trying to earn their new contract and become a better player. Except when it comes at the cost of the skills that earned Sasha the contract in the first place, then pissing off teammates and coaches while doing so. Sometimes it's good to keep it simple. The Lakers wanted the poor Sasha from 2007-2008. The one who nailed open threes, initiated the offense, and harassed his opponents into frustration without earning cheap whistles.  Not the rich, arrogant, hair-gel obsessed, foul-magnet, bricklayer boyfriend of Maria Sharapova. 

Star-divide

In 2008-2009, Sasha averaged 5.8 points and 16.2 minutes per game and shot 38.7% from the field and 36.3% on threes in 80 games. He was given the same chance as the year before, but just failed to produce. He was ineffective to the point that he shot 26.4% from the field and 31.4% on threes in the playoffs in 10.7 minutes per game. When just the year before his minutes per game had gone from 17.8 in the regular season to 21.7 during the playoffs.

He wasn't afforded the same chance in 2009-2010. So bad had he become that even Team Slovenia had told him no thanks, superstar, in the summer of '09. Thanks to the poor attitude, an ankle injury and Shannon Brown's emergence in '08-'09, Phil Jackson cut Vujacic's  time down to 8.6 minutes per game. His limited minutes made him cautious. He scored less, averaging 2.8 points per game, and shot even worse from deep at 30.9% on threes  during the regular season. The humbling of Sasha Vujacic was in full effect.

But the benching seemed to work in the 2010 playoffs. In 10 games, he improved to 43.3% from the field and 40.0% on threes in 7.6 minutes per game, played great defense (especially against Ray Allen in the Finals, but not against Goran Dragic in the Western Finals), and hitting some huge free throws in the clutch. Could it be that he was actually humbled and went back to being the Sasha who earned the money and the nickname, and will that transfer over into this season?  

Role on the Team: Tough to say. Many people suspect the Lakers want to trade him. Except, there haven't seemed to be any takers. Personally, I don't feel the Lakers should trade him. With a lockout probable after this season, the Lakers already spending a ton on salary, and Shannon Brown's place on the roster, it seems to make sense to just let his contract expire. Do the Lakers really want or need to trade him to take on another contract or two amounting to the same money for more years? Unless they can absolutely fleece a team or find a bench-ridden gem a la Trevor Ariza, I doubt it.

What we should see is Phil give Sasha and Shannon the chance to earn the back-up shooting guard role or improve trade-bait status. He's done it before with Luke Walton and Vladimir Radmanovic in the early part of 2008-2009. He startied out with Spaceman before Trevor Ariza and Luke got the chance to send the Space Cadet packing. If the Lakers were sold on Shannon Brown, they would have re-signed him much earlier than they did this summer. Instead, they waited. We'll soon find out what Sasha's role will be.

Best-Case Scenario for His Season: He continues to translate his stellar practice shooting stroke into games, and becomes the deadly floor-spacing shooter and tall and versatile defender the Lakers thought enough of to commit $18 million. The guy who can spell Kobe and still produce on both ends of the floor. If that happens, I doubt the Lakers would want to trade him. He would be the guy they wanted all along. The guy I felt they signed to eventually replace Fish in the starter's rotation. The best part is, we might get some new "Machine" videos.

Worst-Case Scenario for His Season: Considering the way he's played the past two seasons, could it get any worse? The Machine stays broken and he's shipped out for the first player with a pulse to a team looking to shed cap space.

What We Expect: For the Machine to avoid getting traded, and redeem himself in Lakerland. He can shoot, play defense and actually make an entry pass (unlike Shannon Brown). As long as he stays grounded, he can permanently turn this around. He will have pressure on him this year to earn his next contract, so he just may repeat 2007-2008. I'll peg him for 12 to 13 minutes and 7 to 8 points (on 43% three-point shooting) and a couple rebounds per game.  I also wouldn't mind seeing more of this.  If he can do those, I'll buy a pair of his jeans

You can follow Sasha on Twitter: @sashavujacic or visit his website: sashavujacic18.com

You SHOULD follow me on Twitter: @wondahbap

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"When will you learn that the only difference between my life and porno, is that my life has better lighting?" - Sarge

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by bluexfalcon on Sep 29, 2010 2:24 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

He’ll either return to his form and earn another contract (preferably alot smaller in $ and shorter in years) or continue to be terrible and be traded or let go at the end of the year.

I really dont see the Lakers trading him, unless it is with another piece for a significant contributor. but I just dont really see that happening.

I think Brown will have a much better year than Sasha this year, and Sasha will be let go at the end of the year.

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by LakersFoEva on Sep 29, 2010 2:31 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't think I can see Sasha playing for any other team. If we do get rid of him, I hope he goes to Europe and cashes in.

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by bluexfalcon on Sep 29, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it would be very weird to see him in another uniform

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by SoCalGal on Sep 29, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Somone's got MAD GAS

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by LakersFoEva on Sep 29, 2010 2:37 PM PDT reply actions  

His arm looks super small

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by bluexfalcon on Sep 29, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

INB4 alot of Maria Sharapova pics

"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung

by LakersFoEva on Sep 29, 2010 2:42 PM PDT reply actions  

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by bluexfalcon on Sep 29, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I couldnt resist

"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung

by LakersFoEva on Sep 29, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

dayum

"Lebron has the ball, dribbles down the court, splitting the Lakers defenders with 5 seconds left on the clock with the game on the line in the 2011 NBA Finals Game 7! Lebron pulls up from deep, in Kobe's face and drains the three pointer! HEAT WIN HEAT WIN!!! 89-88!!!!!

...BEEP BEEP BEEP...BEEP BEEP BEEP...

Then Lebron's alarm goes off and he wakes up and goes downstairs to eat a delicious breakfast made by his mom and Delonte West."

by bigdeal1188 on Sep 29, 2010 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I posted the pics of my courtside game on the Credits if you want to take a look....

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Sep 29, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

saw 'em.

thanks for sharing.

"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung

by LakersFoEva on Sep 29, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

lmao Wondah.

last two lines.

"When will you learn that the only difference between my life and porno, is that my life has better lighting?" - Sarge

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by bluexfalcon on Sep 29, 2010 2:44 PM PDT reply actions  

He was almost a Cav.

They almost traded Delonte for him and a 1st.

Instead, we got Ryan Hollins, Ramon Sessions and a second for Delonte and some cash. WINNERS

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by sexsalad on Sep 29, 2010 2:56 PM PDT reply actions  

hes still on the team?

smh

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by Czheck on Sep 29, 2010 3:25 PM PDT reply actions  

this is the last year of his contract

right???

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by shaqfor3 on Sep 29, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

correct

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by Czheck on Sep 29, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hopefully they dont re-sign him.

ahahahahahahahahahaha

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by shaqfor3 on Sep 29, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sasha didn't know he's supposed to do that stupid ass chicken dance after a three.

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by SoCalGal on Sep 29, 2010 3:28 PM PDT reply actions  

id trade sasha for a extra pair of socks at this point

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by Czheck on Sep 29, 2010 3:37 PM PDT reply actions  

how bout we just trade him for Sharapova straight up.

"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung

by LakersFoEva on Sep 29, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

i approve of this trade

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by Czheck on Sep 29, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Totally OT but we all missed the F'n party of the year!!!!!!

Hence the name of the party and HOST……LMAO!!

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by Sarge Clemins on Sep 29, 2010 3:40 PM PDT reply actions  

LOL, late to the party, Sarge.

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by SoCalGal on Sep 29, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol damn!

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by Sarge Clemins on Sep 29, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sasha hit those 3333'ssss

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by BrittneyM on Sep 29, 2010 3:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Machine!!


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AMMO's stache + Shaw's power = 2 Titles

by LakerAce on Sep 29, 2010 5:12 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

REC'd

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by bluexfalcon on Sep 29, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

lmao thats the first time i've seen the sasha one.

rec’d

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by LakerAce on Sep 29, 2010 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

hhaa

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by Czheck on Sep 29, 2010 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno why people are advocating trading him after 1 shitty year.

I’ve been good to you. I stick up for you. You don’t stick up for me now, then I say, Fuck you Sasha, I’ll do it myself.

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by Mike1204 on Sep 29, 2010 5:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Crap, blockquote fail
“I’ve been good to you. I stick up for you. You don’t stick up for me now, then I say, Fuck you Sasha. I’ll do this myself

-Pedro Cerrano

In honor and memory of the Taco Squad (2009-2010)

by Mike1204 on Sep 29, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not necessarily the shitty year

(Well it is, but I digress.)

His contract has more value than him at this juncture, and unless Walton decides to retire, he’s the only expiring contract on the team. Given that we actually have depth on the wings now, Vujacic is fairly expendable in trade discussions if an opportunity ever arises. Given that Buss probably won’t sign off on adding salary unless it’s a home run deal (like if New Orleans implodes, trades Paul, and gives us Ariza for Vujacic and picks in a desperate attempt to cut long-term salary), he likely won’t be traded this year, but I would never dismiss the possibility, especially now that Miami has changed the title landscape.

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by Ben R on Sep 29, 2010 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I heard on ESPN radio someone say that expiring contracts aren't going to mean much this year

given the new CBA coming up. Is this true? I know nothing about this kind of stuff.

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by Justin N. on Sep 29, 2010 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hrm, not sure about that

If you have long-term contracts and you’re not a contender, I can see a lot of teams wanting to jettison them before they become worse under the new CBA. What actually might make expiring contracts less attractive is how many big trade exceptions still exist around the league due to big free agents switching cities.

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by Ben R on Sep 29, 2010 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hasn't it been technically two shitty years?

:P

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by PeanutButterSpread on Sep 30, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

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by bluexfalcon on Sep 30, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aww

I still find him endearing, but that’s cuz he’s the cutest guy on the team

by suzie-q on Sep 29, 2010 6:48 PM PDT reply actions  

I like sasha, he commits stupid fouls, and can get a certain slovenian back-up pg all riled up in a certain sixth game of a certain western conference finals

Thanks Sasha, you at least let me see amar’e look semi-good in his last game as a phx sun!

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by Bkj on Sep 29, 2010 8:32 PM PDT reply actions  

He was lucky.

;-)

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by bluexfalcon on Sep 29, 2010 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I re-watched the entire series and boy did jrich's three pint shot give me theheeby jeebys as I remember exactly what I did when he made that shot and teh sadness that followed.

I’ve been wondering, I never got a proper response from any of my friends but, did jrich’s shot scare you guys?

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by Bkj on Sep 29, 2010 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

Sure. Nice acting by Goran though.

Still, Sasha lost his cool.

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by bluexfalcon on Sep 29, 2010 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which one so I can re-watch it

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by bluexfalcon on Sep 29, 2010 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

The one and only? The three point bank it with like 4 seconds left, damn, I nearly cried of happiness;

that really got me thinking that we might just have a chance at finally winning a chip and maybe amar’e wont get traded and maybe eevrything can be happy and okay!

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by Bkj on Sep 29, 2010 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

game five after nash missed a three then jrich missed a three then frye got the rebound and jrich

banked the three.

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by Bkj on Sep 29, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

yea omg that was shenanigans lol

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by bluexfalcon on Sep 29, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man, I was chanting Tim Thomas on all three shot attempts, g-d, i'll miss

the amare nash p&r

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by Bkj on Sep 29, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for giving me an honest response

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by Bkj on Sep 29, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remeber that.

I was like “CMON WHAT THE FUCK???? ONLY KOBE BANKS IN 3’s IN THE CLUTCH!!!”

But then Artest saved the day :-)

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by LakerAce on Sep 29, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

J-Rich. So close to basketball purgatory.


yup.

also

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by bluexfalcon on Sep 29, 2010 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

DAMN

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by smart_guy on Sep 29, 2010 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Greetings from Honolulu

Hi to all Laker fans back in L.A. — especially Pasadena (SCG in the SGV, et al). I hear it’s been HOT, even for L.A. in the summertime!

Team certainly needs Sasha less now than in the past: hope he plays like he knows that this year.

But better yet, I like LakersFoEva playing GM and trading Sasha for Maria straight up. After all, she’s a machine too:

by Koshu on Sep 29, 2010 9:30 PM PDT reply actions  

whoa

Metropolis right?

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by shaqfor3 on Sep 29, 2010 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeap

remember seeing it in my video production class a while back.

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by shaqfor3 on Sep 29, 2010 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty amazing FX . . .

Considering when that movie was made.

by Koshu on Sep 29, 2010 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

SCG, shaqfor3 . . .

I’ll be visiting in a few weeks. Where’s the best place in Pasadena to have a drink and catch the Lakers on TV these days?

by Koshu on Sep 29, 2010 9:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Pretty much anyplace in Old Town is gonna have a game on if they're playing, but I like Yard House at Paseo Colorado.

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by SoCalGal on Sep 29, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

[google map'ing]

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by bluexfalcon on Sep 29, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

^^what she said

theres tons of nice bars, restaurants and etc in old town and almost all of them will have the game on.

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by shaqfor3 on Sep 29, 2010 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

SSR Bar Night! woot woot

Wait, you won’t be able to go. Oops.

Sorry. :p

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by bluexfalcon on Sep 29, 2010 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sure they have alcohol free drinks too

besides, there needs to be a designated driver to haul all your drunk asses home.

:)

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by shaqfor3 on Sep 29, 2010 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pick me up on the corner!!!

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by SoCalGal on Sep 29, 2010 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, I'm close to the Paseo but if I go to Old Town, probably right at Colorado and Fair Oaks.

Yup, perfect.

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by SoCalGal on Sep 29, 2010 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ground Zero for all that is Pasadena

Is the east side of Colorado still vice central?

BTW . . . the dim sum out here is good, but nothing like your old neighborhood (Monterey Park).

by Koshu on Sep 29, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmm, interesting. Do I know you?

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by SoCalGal on Sep 29, 2010 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, if you're Asian and from that part of the SGV

Then there’s a good chance we’re related, LOL!

But seriously, wouldn’t surprise me if we know some of the same people.

by Koshu on Sep 29, 2010 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL, not Asian, but I know many, many Asians.

I just thought it was weird that you mentioned Monterey Park because that’s where I grew up.

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by SoCalGal on Sep 29, 2010 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, I'm not clairvoyant

I just remember when I first posted here that you mentioned you were from Pasadena by way of M’Park.

by Koshu on Sep 29, 2010 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gosh, I don't even remember that. Must have been a while ago.

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by SoCalGal on Sep 29, 2010 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just where my family moved when I was 10 or so.

Went to high school in Montebello.

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"ANY ONE WNAT SOME OF THIS MONEY, IN IF YOU WANT SOME COME ON IN GET SOME" - the Legendary LEWIS MONROE

by SoCalGal on Sep 29, 2010 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL, then no kidding

you must know lots of Asians (from all your stops around the SGV).

Keppel grad?

by Koshu on Sep 29, 2010 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, Schurr. Keppel is in Alhambra.

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by SoCalGal on Sep 29, 2010 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

I’ve been away from L.A. too long. My local geography’s slipping.

by Koshu on Sep 29, 2010 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

West fasho

I live on relatively close to the East End. Lots of sleezy motels and etc. Hate it.

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by shaqfor3 on Sep 29, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds like my hangout spot

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by bluexfalcon on Sep 29, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah I think I saw you there once

lol

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by shaqfor3 on Sep 29, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

that was me talking to that one chick by the red car

Long story short, his name was Barry.

Worst.Night.Ever

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by bluexfalcon on Sep 29, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eddie Murphy laughs.

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by SoCalGal on Sep 29, 2010 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

"When will you learn that the only difference between my life and porno, is that my life has better lighting?" - Sarge

Sweet 16

by bluexfalcon on Sep 29, 2010 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

U MAD?

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"ANY ONE WNAT SOME OF THIS MONEY, IN IF YOU WANT SOME COME ON IN GET SOME" - the Legendary LEWIS MONROE

by SoCalGal on Sep 29, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

lmao

Is that not the most pissed off little puppy ever?

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by bluexfalcon on Sep 29, 2010 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

So cute and funny,

"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
"ANY ONE WNAT SOME OF THIS MONEY, IN IF YOU WANT SOME COME ON IN GET SOME" - the Legendary LEWIS MONROE

by SoCalGal on Sep 29, 2010 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest

by shaqfor3 on Sep 29, 2010 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it's weird . . .

Other than the motels, The Show and the pros, it’s a fairly normal neighborhood.

by Koshu on Sep 29, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, the neighborhoods surrounding arent that bad

the only dumpy part is colorado blvd

"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest

by shaqfor3 on Sep 29, 2010 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of sports for the underaged

Turkey Tussle . . . Who you got this year? I graduated from Marshall, so I just go to check out the Muir Drum Corps.

by Koshu on Sep 29, 2010 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

what's the turkey tussle??

came from a private HS

"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest

by shaqfor3 on Sep 29, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pasadena High vs. Muir High

Annual homecoming football game played at the Rose Bowl: pretty amazing experience for a high school football game. One of Pasadena’s long-time traditions.

by Koshu on Sep 29, 2010 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh nice

went to La Salle

they were ok in football a few years ago, but now they suck. Our big rivalry game vs Maranatha, though probably not as popular as Muir/ PHS.

"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest

by shaqfor3 on Sep 29, 2010 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Muir’s really the only relatively consistent H.S. sports power in Pasadena.

by Koshu on Sep 29, 2010 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm in Grant Football country lol

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by bluexfalcon on Sep 29, 2010 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sacramento, CA

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by bluexfalcon on Sep 29, 2010 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here's one to tie up all the loose ends . . .

. . . in this part of the thread.

A cop in Sacramento I know trains with me in martial arts (we both train remote now), and our dojo used to be across from La Salle High School (before my teacher moved the school to Sunland).

Anyway, your brave being a Lakers fan up there (though probably not as bad as it would’ve been 10 years ago).

by Koshu on Sep 29, 2010 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, to be clear.

Born and raised in Souther Cali.

Moved up to Sacramento in 2006

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by bluexfalcon on Sep 29, 2010 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I played Muir in high school (back in 2002).

They were ranked #6 in the nation at the time and we were a little private high school from the beach. we were supposed to get destroyed. but crazy things happened that night and both offenses went crazy. i dont think an offensive drive was ever stopped.

If i remember right, the final score was like 56-55. We had scored to tie it with 10 seconds left to go. And we decided, that since we werent even supposed to be in the game, to go for two. We were, literally, inches away from pulling a major upset. But it didnt happen.

I just remember pulling up in the buses, walking to the locker room and all their players were outside talking trash. By the end of the game, they werent talking as much and gave us a big time congrats after the game. I just remember the game so much because I had like 20 catches for over 200 yards and 2 td’s. best game of my high school career. (i played tight end).

Oh, what could have been.

"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung

by LakersFoEva on Sep 30, 2010 6:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow

That’s awesome!

20 catches? 200+ yards?? For a tight end??? Memories like that are what high school’s all about.

Now make sure you go off and become successful (like a pro tight end or something else worthwhile) so you’re not telling that story as the highlight of your life like Al Bundy 20 years later. :-)

Muir has kind of a tough rep, but as you noted they’re more often than not a class act (a la Jacque Vaughn).

by Koshu on Sep 30, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Im already out of college.

I played college football and ended up going to a few combines and got invited to an nfl training camp, but nothing came of it. had oppurtunities to go play in the cfl and arena leagues, but decided to settle down and start a family instead. my body was pretty beat up at that point and i dont think i would have lasted a whole season. (bad knees, torn ligament in elbow and a back that was giving me problems). its hard carrying around 320 pounds.

so, it wasnt the highlight of my career, but probably the best game of my high school career. it was the first game of the year and muir had no idea what offense we were running. we were a team than ran 95% of the time. so when we did pass, i was wide open and usually never had a catch shorter than 25 yards. the yardage added up because my first catch of the game was a 95 yard td. muir had no idea it was coming. i think i still hold the record for best average in yards per catch in california. my junior year it was around 27 and my senior year was a little less at 25. not to sure about that though.

the highlight of my football career had to be going through a training camp with the Greenbay Packers and watching Brett Favre play the game. He gets more joy from football than anyone i have ever seen in my life. anyways, enough of the good ol’ days.

"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung

by LakersFoEva on Sep 30, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nowadays I think he gets more joy from pissing people off and playing the drama queen.
He gets more joy from football than anyone i have ever seen in my life.

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by SoCalGal on Sep 30, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, i just dont think he can leave the game on his own.

Hes gonna need to get a major injury for him to hang em up. That or the fact that he just cant sling it anymore, but the man still has a rifle for an arm.

"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung

by LakersFoEva on Sep 30, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fortunately for me, he's been rifling to the opposing team.

"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
"ANY ONE WNAT SOME OF THIS MONEY, IN IF YOU WANT SOME COME ON IN GET SOME" - the Legendary LEWIS MONROE

by SoCalGal on Sep 30, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Guilty as charged.

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"ANY ONE WNAT SOME OF THIS MONEY, IN IF YOU WANT SOME COME ON IN GET SOME" - the Legendary LEWIS MONROE

by SoCalGal on Sep 30, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

You've gotten to do

things that few people get to do. Good for you!

by Koshu on Oct 1, 2010 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol

I don’t get drunk. Only buzzed!

..honest.

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Sweet 16

by bluexfalcon on Sep 29, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lots of screens at the Yard House too

OK, muchos mahalos folks.

I remember when Hooters (before it closed) was the place to be during the previous back-to-back-to-back years and (the previous incarnation of) the Loose Cannons would broadcast live from there.

Quid pro quo: if you vacation in Honolulu during NBA season, the Mai Tai bar at Ala Moana and Giovanni Pastrami in Waikiki are nice (plenty of more local sports bars, but the two above have a vibe most L.A. folks will like).

Lots of Lakers fans in Hawaii, though it was bizarre also seeing lots of locals, not transplants, who are hardcore Celtics fans (seeing as this is the farthest, if you don’t count, like, Guam, that you can get from Boston and still be in the U.S.).

by Koshu on Sep 29, 2010 11:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Sorry . . .

Nested reply fail.

Some of you folks are just too prolific and expert on here!

by Koshu on Sep 29, 2010 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm trying to get to Honolulu in December so I'll keep this in mind, just in case.

Mahalo!

"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
"ANY ONE WNAT SOME OF THIS MONEY, IN IF YOU WANT SOME COME ON IN GET SOME" - the Legendary LEWIS MONROE

by SoCalGal on Sep 29, 2010 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Excellent!

Will be nice seeing the Lakers at full strength around that time!

by Koshu on Sep 29, 2010 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's so funny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TkLRRgatIQ

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by smart_guy on Sep 29, 2010 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

26!

3 Heat can't stop the 3peat.

by LAL32 on Sep 30, 2010 12:58 AM PDT reply actions  

No caption needed

"What we want to remember—what we will remember—is the indelible vision of Kobe, his arms outstretched, delirious with joy and disbelief, running after and grabbing hold of Lamar Odom’s floating downcourt pass, while all the purple and gold streamers in the world are raining down on the hardwood." - Brian Tung

by LakersFoEva on Sep 30, 2010 7:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Love all the Fish & Kobe pictures!

"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
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by SoCalGal on Sep 30, 2010 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

OF ALL TIME

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by bluexfalcon on Sep 30, 2010 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

ahhh

now we’re taking it a little far. As much as I love Fish, I don’t think any backcourt with him in it, even with intangibles can be considered the best backcourt of all time.

These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson

by Marty Mart on Sep 30, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

NOTICE MY CAPS

means /sarcasm

"When will you learn that the only difference between my life and porno, is that my life has better lighting?" - Sarge

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by bluexfalcon on Sep 30, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

thought it was just an accident

lol

These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson

by Marty Mart on Oct 1, 2010 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Since the beginning

"When will you learn that the only difference between my life and porno, is that my life has better lighting?" - Sarge

Sweet 16

by bluexfalcon on Sep 30, 2010 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

That first picture is one of my all-time favorites of those two guys.

Thanks LFE!

"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
"ANY ONE WNAT SOME OF THIS MONEY, IN IF YOU WANT SOME COME ON IN GET SOME" - the Legendary LEWIS MONROE

by SoCalGal on Sep 30, 2010 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Magic and Byron weren't bad either

Too bad how medical issues cut that special duo’s potential short, though they still achieved a lot in their time.

by Koshu on Sep 30, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not only can water float a boat, it can sink it also.

by Zanarkand on Sep 30, 2010 1:17 AM PDT reply actions  

No gettin' around it, Scola is ugly.

"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
"ANY ONE WNAT SOME OF THIS MONEY, IN IF YOU WANT SOME COME ON IN GET SOME" - the Legendary LEWIS MONROE

by SoCalGal on Sep 30, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

What are you talking about?

Vujacic’s shot isn´t inconsistent!

He consistently misses!

Magic made me a Laker fan.

by thestuff01 on Sep 30, 2010 1:39 AM PDT reply actions  

I think Sasha gets it done this year

He is talented and obviously has the drive to succeed. The bigger problem I see with Sasha is the lack of minutes. There won’t be a repeat of his 2008 performance because with Shannon on board, the minutes will be diminished. This is all not to say Sasha will be consistent in his playing time this year, which I think he will be.

Mat Latos is the real deal...Go Lakers, Pads, and Bolts

by mrbarneydangles on Sep 30, 2010 7:26 AM PDT reply actions  

This talk reminds me

of what a weapon Vinnie “Microwave” Johnson was for the ‘80s Pistons. It’s a rare player that doesn’t need minutes to keep a sharp edge, and embraces his back-up role.

by Koshu on Sep 30, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

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