Folks seem to keep forgetting the insight in "Insightful FanPost"..
Have you folks ever visited other sports blogs? I ask this because as I dove deeper and deeper into the statistical aspects of the game of basketball, I (naturally) went online and did some research. I first ran into the Yahoo! Sports Blogs and acquainted myself with their resident "bloggers" Kelly Dwyer and at that time J.E. Skeets (who I preferred head and shoulders over the pointless rants of Trey Kerby). I saw a few stats here and there, but it was never any truly in-depth analysis of the stats ('cause all those numbers are boring and don't make for great readership). That's not to say that the writer's didn't ACTUALLY analyze the stats, but it seemed(s) like their pieces were(are) intentionally "dumbed down" and summarized for the sake of the reader. It was unchallenging, it got old, and the comments section turned into debates between children that would range from the statistically ignorant to the downright racist.
One day I looked to the right of my monitor..."Silver Screen and Roll" read a little side link and I was intrigued with the concept of having an exclusive Lakers blog to read through. I'm new to the whole blogosphere thinga-ma-bob, mainly because I've been really busy, but unemployment does terrible things to a person's psyche and thus, I had to find a way to keep the mind busy. I started reading the articles and found the authors to be refreshingly funny and also found the pieces to be quite insightful. For me, they were challenging because the authors threw the stats and jokes around like Steve Nash palms a basketball, quickly and often (kidding). I became...addicted. The authors expect the readers to raise their metaphorical games to match their own. I respect that as an aspiring writer because much too often, writers feel the need to reach a broad audience, and in doing so, lose the value of their words. The conformist writer does his reader a disservice by enabling his ignorance.
Things should be broken down the way they are here in the post-game wrap-ups. They should be broken down by different people to get different perspectives on the same issue. With that in mind, I also started commenting on the articles and found myself having coherent conversations (a revolutionary idea at the time) with fans of the Lakers and other teams as well. Pretty soon I wrote my first FanPost and did my best not to disappoint. I was reading FanPosts from other members of the community for a long time before I first posted, just to get a feel of what a proper FanPost might look like.
Lately though, I've seen new members left and right, people I didn't see during the season, and much more often now I see folks posting personal opinions without bringing rational arguments to the table. They forget the pudding. I find myself having to sift through an ever increasing amount of rubbish to find a decent post here and there. I like the high level conversations. I enjoy reading the insights from members like Ben R, C.A., Dex, SCG, BXF, amongst various others, even if I don't always agree with them. Relatively speaking, I'm new to the site, I haven't put in the hours or days to say "don't post what's on your mind". I can't imagine this ever being acceptable behavior (excluding trolling) and I'm operating under the premise that alienating new members in this manner would be counter-productive and insulting. However, I would also love to see the integrity of the work around here be maintained at the high level I've observed since arriving on the scene. It's what differentiates SS&R from the rest of the sports blogs. This is my humble request to all members new and old alike...Don't forget the insight.
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{on bended knee}
Will you marry me?
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
In a heartbeat =)
Kobe is like constantly in Kill Mode - Ron Artest
by MexcNguy1 on Aug 5, 2010 1:16 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
That's the first blush and giggle I've gotten for positive reasons..
Kobe is like constantly in Kill Mode - Ron Artest
by MexcNguy1 on Aug 5, 2010 1:35 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
ummm....
let me guess. Creeper in high school. Its ok, these things happen
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Joshua S.
Ehh, not really..
But it’s very telling your mind ran to that first.. LoL I kid, I kid. =)
Kobe is like constantly in Kill Mode - Ron Artest
by MexcNguy1 on Aug 5, 2010 1:58 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh I just assumed
many guys have that stage. I didn’t talk simply to avoid those moments. lol.
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Joshua S.
ehh
you grow out of it eventually. Talking is actually better than saying nothing at times.
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Joshua S.
That depends LARGELY on whether you have anything worth saying.
They say if you can't beat them, join them. By joining them, LeBron just admitted he can't beat them.
that reminds me Josh, it seems you were on hiatus when I started here
I meant no disrespect by not including your name on that list of members. I’ve read some of your work, it’s fantastic stuff.
Kobe is like constantly in Kill Mode - Ron Artest
No prob, dude.
It comes with the territory of being so intermittent around here. The guys here do an AWESOME job; really, I’m just like a recurring guest speaker, in these parts.
…Oh, and thanks!
They say if you can't beat them, join them. By joining them, LeBron just admitted he can't beat them.
Hey
I said at times. We have to leave it the young padawans to figure when and when not to use the force Sir Tucker. lol.
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Joshua S.
Sweet....Star Wars reference!
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Ugh.
Can’t we just create a place for the young padawans to go until they’re… you know… sufferable?
They say if you can't beat them, join them. By joining them, LeBron just admitted he can't beat them.
lol even us older heads say dumb stuff (i know not you though ;))
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, hey...
I reserve the right to make an ass of myself every now and then.
…
…
Okay, maybe not. If I did such a thing I’d have to make myself wear the dunce hat.
They say if you can't beat them, join them. By joining them, LeBron just admitted he can't beat them.
haha
hey i gotta be a leader EVERY minute of EVERY day to young Soldiers….so its just awesome to make an ass of myself here….yanno
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Haha. Nice.
They say if you can't beat them, join them. By joining them, LeBron just admitted he can't beat them.
Boom.
Dunce Cat.
They say if you can't beat them, join them. By joining them, LeBron just admitted he can't beat them.
LOL!
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Well we obviously can't send
them to kindergarten anymore without disruption.
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Joshua S.
LOL. What kind of guys have you been hanging around? I kid, I kid.
many guys have that stage
Just because you throw someone a pass, and they score, it doesn't mean you made them a better player.
I hung with both crowds
I was a jock, but I was smart too. Helped me see both sides of the experience.
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Joshua S.
What exactly is a high school creeper?
Just because you throw someone a pass, and they score, it doesn't mean you made them a better player.
Well, in the previous context of the word creeper, in which Marty Mart says
many guys have this stage, I don’t think many guys do this, “stares at you while you sleep, or looks at you for hours through a window” lol, so I disregarded that definition.
Just because you throw someone a pass, and they score, it doesn't mean you made them a better player.
LOL.
Let’s talk about context then. He said
Creeper in high school
So the 1st definition still applies, you just gotta replace a few words. Those were examples, mind you, and not the actual definition.
For instance, staring while you read a book in the library or stare at you during lunch could work.
Sweet 16
LOL
Hahaha ok, so the key word here is stare. Gotcha.
Just because you throw someone a pass, and they score, it doesn't mean you made them a better player.
huh?
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
lol i just wanted to sound confused anyways
i seem to be confused by alot of inside jokes around here cause i missed 2 months of bloggin away for the Army. im not gonna even tell you the harsh atmosphere i had to watch the Finals in!
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Is this the type of insightful thread that mexcnguy was shooting for when he offered up this Fanpost?
"Lebron has the ball, dribbles down the court, splitting the Lakers defenders with 5 seconds left on the clock with the game on the line in the 2011 NBA Finals Game 7! Lebron pulls up from deep, in Kobe's face and drains the three pointer! HEAT WIN HEAT WIN!!! 89-88!!!!!
...BEEP BEEP BEEP...BEEP BEEP BEEP...
Then Lebron's alarm goes off and he wakes up and goes downstairs to eat a delicious breakfast made by his mom and Delonte West."
lol fail
"I wanted to do what was best for LeBron James, and what LeBron James is going to do to make him happy."- Lebron James
Yeah, was curious.
There’s this guy I know that everyone calls a creeper, but I never fully understood why.
Just because you throw someone a pass, and they score, it doesn't mean you made them a better player.
Depends on who says it.
Oftentimes, I use it to refer to people who continually make awkward statements or awkward moments with people. Usually shy kids trying to get in on a conversation. Or at least thats how people meant it at my high school. Different places have different meanings though. In college, it usually just refers to people who look weird and say weird things. The awkwardness is almost always a part of the equation of a creeper though.
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Joshua S.
LOL
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be committed against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the Limelight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
I Rec'd.
Just because you throw someone a pass, and they score, it doesn't mean you made them a better player.
Also, same should go for FanShots.
At the time of this comment, there are three FanShots back to back to back about Shannon signing with the Lakers. Do people not look at previous FanShots before posting, to make sure somebody else doesn’t already have the news topic covered?
Just because you throw someone a pass, and they score, it doesn't mean you made them a better player.
I'm not going to lie..
I rarely scroll down to the FanShots, but yeah, I concur with your assessment.
Kobe is like constantly in Kill Mode - Ron Artest
by MexcNguy1 on Aug 5, 2010 1:20 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Agree
WE ARE CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't ever underestimate the heart of a champion." -- Rudy Tomjanovich
Great post
Step #1 to creating a FanPost: Look at the recent FanPosts and see if what you are planning to write about offers different insight than what is already written.
Step #2: Actually offer an analysis based off of something other than pure opinion (or if it is pure opinion, craft it carefully).
Step #3: Read it and think about how you would feel if you were reading it for the first time.
Step #4: Look over it and see if Dex, C.A., wondah, etc. would actually consider it worth their time to read.
Step #5: Post and be ready to defend yourself.
For FanShots:
Step #1: See if it is already a FanShot.
Step #2: See if it is in the Credits.
"Some people think they should go to heaven but NOT have to die to get there.
Sorry, but that’s simply not how it works."
"This is America, if we can’t self-righteously look down on others and blame them for our faults, the commies win."--Cormican on Aug 13, 2009 7:28 PM PDT
Step 6
Make sure you can spell Pat Riley properly.
Just because you throw someone a pass, and they score, it doesn't mean you made them a better player.
"ANYONE WNAT SOME OF THIS MONEY
IN IF YOU WANT SOME COME ON IN GETS SOME"
"Attitude reflect leadership, captain" - Big Jules
by KBZ on Aug 5, 2010 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Someday
That will be a famous quote
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
It already is, darlin', it already is.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
that is the future of the english language my friend
ALL CAPS INCLUDED
Kobe, God and I don't tweet. Everyone else does.
n if you want some of this mNEONY COME AND GE TIT
LEWIS MONROE XIIVIXI
Czheck Productions
Under The Basement Radio
Woj is conducting a massive LeBook burning.
Step 7
Make sure you know the difference between Re-Sign and Resign… which automatically disqualifies 90% of the people on this site.
"I came back with an I-Don't-Care attitude. If I had an open shot, I was taking it."
--The Robert Horry
I bleed Purple N' Gold and Silver N' Black... because of this rare condition, I am no longer allowed to donate to the Red Cross.
by The_Power_and_the_Glory_of_Robert_Horry on Aug 5, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
And 100% of the people on every other site.
They say if you can't beat them, join them. By joining them, LeBron just admitted he can't beat them.
Wow seriously thank you
that is a huge pet peeve of mine
"Some people think they should go to heaven but NOT have to die to get there.
Sorry, but that’s simply not how it works."
"This is America, if we can’t self-righteously look down on others and blame them for our faults, the commies win."--Cormican on Aug 13, 2009 7:28 PM PDT
Wtf is wrong with you
IT’S PAT RAILLY GOSH-DAMNIT
"Some people think they should go to heaven but NOT have to die to get there.
Sorry, but that’s simply not how it works."
"This is America, if we can’t self-righteously look down on others and blame them for our faults, the commies win."--Cormican on Aug 13, 2009 7:28 PM PDT
Approved by who?
Approved for what?
Just because you throw someone a pass, and they score, it doesn't mean you made them a better player.
So...
What exactly is it approved for? Haha
Just because you throw someone a pass, and they score, it doesn't mean you made them a better player.
That reminds me of an old Bill Hicks joke..
Search YouTube:" what you reading for? Bill hicks" hilarious stuff.
Kobe is like constantly in Kill Mode - Ron Artest
I think it's inevitable.
More posters, more chances of “rubbish”. There’s a reason your front-page posters are front-page posters. It’s not just the talent, but the time they invest. And believe me, insight doesn’t just roll off, because more than likely, there’s research involved. Regardless, you have to really want to spend the time, and then sit back and hope that your work pays off.
Not to say I disagree with you, but the people you mention are diamonds in the rough.
Also, it’s off-season.
I'm here to talk about the past.
And? im still here....lol
Also, it’s off-season.
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
you're welcome?
(sorry, not sure why you’re thanking me)
{scratches head}
I'm here to talk about the past.
I enjoy reading the insights from members like… SCG
…The people you mention are diamonds in the rough
Just because you throw someone a pass, and they score, it doesn't mean you made them a better player.
Hehe. I didn't even realize I was complimenting her because I call her by her full name.
Let’s not tell her that ok?
I'm here to talk about the past.
haha@i heart you
L A M E
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
HA!
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
ok MEX i had to give this one a REC overall....
good write up ….up ^ there….lol
It made me want to read the WHOLE thing and was split into paragraphs! lol
I know i do alot of joking on this site and dont seem to serious, but hey whenever i am trying to get serious and write some long ass shit…..nobody ever responds to THOSE post of mine. So for now…..i shall stick with humor and fun. :)
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
exactly
that’s the part I meant about “sit back and hope that your work pays off.” If people don’t comment, it kind of discourages people to put forth the effort. And there’s a very small percentage of people who like to work with no reward, so to speak.
I'm here to talk about the past.
i understand fully....either way i still like to have fun :)
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
ME TOO BRO
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
shit caps fail
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL! uhhhhh....yeah!
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
its cool man, I'm just playin
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Joshua S.
haha you 2 fuckers are a crack up!
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
ummmmm.....who knows?
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
It's an interesting thing
My experience has been that my absolute best work gets comparatively little discussion (which is still way more discussion than on 99% of other blogs, like TrueHoop blogs, where 12 comments indicates the wild popularity of a post, but still…). One theory I have toyed with is the possibility that when I really nail a particular issue, fewer people feel the need to comment, because there is nothing to add.
Thoughts?
They say if you can't beat them, join them. By joining them, LeBron just admitted he can't beat them.
Its probably that there is little to say to combat a particular issue
Many posts of yours are so in depth that to fight about a subject is literally going to be a matter of difference of opinion than an in depth analysis of something you might not have said. Thats just how I see it. There’s rarely something I have to say after a piece of yours just because most of the time I don’t feel like looking it up, :), and other times its because I’m in complete agreement and the rec button is sufficient for my agreement.
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Joshua S.
Yeah, this is what I am thinking.
Around these parts, I’d like to think most of our people are intelligent enough that they’d shy away from posting a comment just to say they agree; you’ve gotta be able to add something, even if it’s just to say why you agree. So I tend to think that my most thorough posts get less discussion because there is less need for discussion… all that is really necessary is a rec.
They say if you can't beat them, join them. By joining them, LeBron just admitted he can't beat them.
dude i actually agree....becuase when YOU come in here and "steal" people's words
it’s hard to comment when there is nothing left to say….lol
But seriously….i agree with ur last sentence
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
ROFL
You know why I started blogging? Because I felt like there were a lot of things out there that we all knew, but no one was saying them in a coherent, cohesive, and comprehensive manner. Particularly when it came to the Lakers — especially at that time, there was a lot of mud-slinging in our direction, and our people generally knew the truth… but not many people were responding fully and coherently the way that they needed to.
So I think I probably “steal” the words out of a lot of people’s mouths… because often times, we all know the issues — I’ve just compiled them into an articulate, comprehensive response.
They say if you can't beat them, join them. By joining them, LeBron just admitted he can't beat them.
yes that about sums it up Josh Tucker :)
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree with that. Because it's usually what I run into.
Then again, most of my posts are not commentary-inspiring. At least from the standpoint of debate. Most of my stuff is history-related, so other than the occasional, “Hey, cool”, I have gotten to the point where I don’t expect many comments. Even when I know I’ve nailed a post.
I'm here to talk about the past.
Yep
It gets to a point where you need to be able to just know that you killed it, and be satisfied with that. Because your best work may not get much feedback — so it takes an ability to self-assess, which is much easier said than done.
They say if you can't beat them, join them. By joining them, LeBron just admitted he can't beat them.
Yeah, and I am truly my worst critic so I was depending on others.
I am just now learning self-satisfaction.
I'm here to talk about the past.
self-satisfaction rox!
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
That'll make you go blind
Twitter feed: @dexterfishmore
by DexterFishmore on Aug 5, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pssh, a guy with a guide dog told me that's a myth.
What?
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
Pssh a woman with a guide chihuahua told me its a myth
WTF?!
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Joshua S.
Sorry I didn't see you.
{goes to feed Brutus the chihuahua}
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
Why do chihuahua's always
have to most dangerous sounding names? lol.
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Joshua S.
cause they are DEADLY!
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 6, 2010 7:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Exactly
In the beginning, you’re afraid that any positive self-assessment is just conceit on your part… and so your mind over-compensates to the point that you really have no idea if it’s any good. Eventually, though, you learn to get over it and self-evaluate pretty accurately.
They say if you can't beat them, join them. By joining them, LeBron just admitted he can't beat them.
hey guys its been fun but i got a meeting....see ya later tonite
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
haha
well MY best work seems like most ppls everyday work round these parts….
so i’m like….booohooo
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
except this
"Attitude reflect leadership, captain" - Big Jules
by KBZ on Aug 5, 2010 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Ahhhhh, paragraphs...
Let me just say this: The existence of paragraphs in a FanPost makes it exponentially more likely that I will read said FanPost.
A giant block of text is just begging for me to click the close button on that window.
They say if you can't beat them, join them. By joining them, LeBron just admitted he can't beat them.
im finding it harder to disagree with you Josh Tucker
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
It's like he's inside your head, right?
I hope he doesn’t come over to mine. It’s still a mess from the weekend.
I'm here to talk about the past.
yes....and what makes it wierd is this..
I’m terrible at writting what is goin on in my brain after a few …..shall we say explosions in my time.
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I like that you didn't use a giant block of text
Some people also need to learn from that and split their posts up.
In Soviet Russia, LA beats you.
yes yes (in best Jeff Golblume voice)
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
How cute. A meta thread of sorts.
We have two a month, over at AN. Then again we like our drama.
I'm here to talk about the past.
at AN??
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
correct.
I think it’s cool that a couple here have joined AN, even though I doubt they are A’s fans. They should be forewarned that I am a mod there. ;-)
I'm here to talk about the past.
lol
well im a Pads fan
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd like to see them win that division. But aren't we in,um, Dodger Country right now?
I'm here to talk about the past.
i dont care....
just like i dont care bout Shaq
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Now, about this FanPost...
Extremely well said, Mex. I agree with you completely. We do pretty good around here, for the most part. Honestly, I think it’s a combination of two things, right now: (1) some of the regulars around here are taking a break during the off-season, because honestly, when you’re used to the level of interest present in the regular season and playoffs, the off-season gets to a point where it doesn’t capture your interest and you need a break before gearing up for the next season again; and (2) people who don’t usually watch and blog at the same time have come around to read and comment now that there aren’t any games on to watch, at the moment. It’s why we get significantly more traffic in July than we do in June — the month of the Finals, of repeat championships, etc.
So we’ve got fewer regulars and more n00bs who didn’t come around when they were busy watching basketball and not chewing gum. And that’s fine — they generally figure it out. It’s a higher standard here, and it can take a moment to realize that and start marching to the beat of that drum. In the end, though, I think that more often than not this community tends to raise the bar for everyone who comes here, and a lot of people come and, once they figure it out, rise to the expectations.
That said, it certainly doesn’t hurt to actually put it in words every now and then, a brief FYI/reminder to everyone, new or old, of how we like to do things around here. People see it and tend to get on board. Hopefully your post will serve as a call to arms, and everyone here will make an extra effort to make the summer interesting and insightful.
Which — let’s be honest — is easier said than done. This is the time of year when Dex is writing about hot dogs and cheerleaders, after all.
And to close, let me just say, again, very well said with this post. Keep it up, and at some point, someone around here might offer you a well-paying job as a writer. And by well-paying, I mean not at all.
They say if you can't beat them, join them. By joining them, LeBron just admitted he can't beat them.
by Josh Tucker on Aug 5, 2010 5:06 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Problem is most of the people you're talking about probably won't look into this fanpost
"Attitude reflect leadership, captain" - Big Jules
by KBZ on Aug 5, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah.
Too busy writing uninsightful FanPosts, I assume?
They say if you can't beat them, join them. By joining them, LeBron just admitted he can't beat them.
Sadly, Josh
It’s not likely to go away. A lot of it stems from post-happy noobs who don’t take the time to “figure it out”. Not until it’s too late, anyways. That real risk there is that those posts have the potential of turning off some major players/contributors to the point where they disappear for awhile (though from experience, they never really go away, but they do tend to post less).
The flip side of that is that the regulars put on their "entitled’ caps, and rather then use constructive criticism- and I realize that some posts/posters are undeserving- they chase off someone who had potential, that is they had some insight, but couldn’t find the right words or had the right words, but little insight.
I do agree that the reminders are important, but you just never know when new people are going to pop in. It’s very hit or miss, even on older, “established” sites.
I'm here to talk about the past.
You Josh Tucker...
Totally agreed…….we are missing some of the Regs round here and have gotten some new people, but all in all it’s a good thing i guess. A breath of fresh air to some. Plus what do you consider a n00b? I still sonsider myself one and i been on here since last year sometime. At the same time i now am friendly with some of the regs and what not.
Either way we are all antitled by this awesome site to keep up with the insightful posts about basketball.
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 6, 2010 7:08 AM PDT up reply actions
"J.E. Skeets (who I preferred head and shoulders over the pointless rants of Trey Kerby)."
This.
X 1000
even the Create-A-Captions are notoriously bad now (sigh)
"Attitude reflect leadership, captain" - Big Jules
ehh
give Kerby a break. as far as I know this is his first big time blog. Not everything Skeets put up was gold either. Kerby has interesting stuff on there, he just has corny jokes. I think his humor will come around.
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Joshua S.
Trey was pretty good on Hardwood Paroxysm
I tend to agree with Mex on this issue, and I’ll add this: I think Trey is great as a comedy guy. And when I say that, I mean not as the main guy. And that’s what Skeets was — Skeets was the blogger, Dwyer was the guy who weighed in with more serious thoughts on only the serious issues. Trey was much better in a supporting role. As “the blogger,” I’m not a big fan.
Especially compared to Skeets. Skeets was a class act.
Basically, I think Trey is best as a blog’s Ron Artest. He’s not that good in the Pau Gasol (the steady, regular guy) or Kobe Bryant (the heavy hitter) roles.
They say if you can't beat them, join them. By joining them, LeBron just admitted he can't beat them.
Yeah
spreading himself so thin between posts has taken away some of his funny.
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Joshua S.
It's not even about the funny, unlike everyone else I didn't fine the Basketball Jones to be particularly funny
but Skeets knew how to run a blog and what kind of content to post. Now It just feels watered down and not up to par.
I followed Trey on twitter and read his stuff at HP before he got the BDL gig, and feel the same way Josh does. That whole site has changed, even the tone of Dwyer’s stuff has taken a different direction.
"Attitude reflect leadership, captain" - Big Jules
by KBZ on Aug 5, 2010 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions
To be fair
Dwyer has more of a load now on the blog part as well. Skeets was ridiculous in his devotion and Dwyer was more or less just there for the intellectual take on bball, while Skeets chimed in every now and then but mostly just was the news angle for BDL. Towards the end Dwyer has been more blog manager than just sports commentator. Dwyer’s writing isn’t managed by Trey, that is Dwyer’s own doing, even though to me he still sounds like the same pompous writer he was before.
There is something different though. Maybe its the lack of the Jones to look forward to there, which is the biggest thing missing to me.
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Joshua S.
im not a fan of Dwyer, I find myself getting a little mad at most his stuff.
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 6, 2010 7:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Way to sum that one up Josh Tucker :)
Basically, I think Trey is best as a blog’s Ron Artest. He’s not that good in the Pau Gasol (the steady, regular guy) or Kobe Bryant (the heavy hitter) roles.
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 6, 2010 7:13 AM PDT up reply actions
i miss skeets, too
pretty objective and witty writer… a major offsetting force to dwyer’s biased (when it comes to Kobe) – though – good writing.
KD annoyed me several times, but, for me, the KD piece that ticked me off most was the “top ten defenders of the decade” list a year ago. it showed how he always tend to down or discount kobe as much chance as he can when he snubbed kobe in that list; ridiculously including eric snow and kirk hinrich to fill up the list – for purpose of leaving out kobe!
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"No one wins forever. Only thing that matters is how you face it when the cards don't come up your way. I'm not afraid." - Spider-Man (Amazing Spider-Man #475)
kobe bryant=batman
"- though good - writing"
fail
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"No one wins forever. Only thing that matters is how you face it when the cards don't come up your way. I'm not afraid." - Spider-Man (Amazing Spider-Man #475)
kobe bryant=batman
I would've been fine with Eric Snow
if he hadn’t only been an elite defender for less than half of the decade. Playing with the Cavs in 05 was like the last time he was relevantly a good defender
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Joshua S.
last year he ticked me off with the top 10 dunkers of the decade list
how the hell does Shaq make that list? What creative dunks does he do?
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
Come on, are you telling you haven't seen him pull his big ass up on the rim with his legs in the air after he slams it down?!
That shit is awesome!
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
Very impressed with your writing skills.
I think YOU should write more fan posts. I wish I could write off the top of my head and make it as good as this post. Im jealous. : ) j/k.
"That means no more coming into camp fat and out of shape, when your team is relying on your leadership on and off the court. It also means no more blaming others for our team's failure, or blaming staff members for not overdramatizing your injuries so that you avoid blame for your lack of conditioning. " Kobe on Shaq being a leader
Thank you. I have my typos and grammatical errors in there just like everyone else.
Kobe is like constantly in Kill Mode - Ron Artest
You're welcome.
: )
"That means no more coming into camp fat and out of shape, when your team is relying on your leadership on and off the court. It also means no more blaming others for our team's failure, or blaming staff members for not overdramatizing your injuries so that you avoid blame for your lack of conditioning. " Kobe on Shaq being a leader
i have yet to provide an insightful comment
i think my career-defining comment so far was when i wished theo ratliff was my dad. yeah, i was proud of that.
"I wanted to do what was best for LeBron James, and what LeBron James is going to do to make him happy."- Lebron James
I think it's equally important that we remember the "fan" in FanPost.
While we may not be equally insightful, we are pretty much equal in our fandom.
Well, except me. I’m the greatest Laker fan of all.
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Aug 5, 2010 8:01 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
The greatest Laker fan of them all??!
Them’s fightin’ words!
They say if you can't beat them, join them. By joining them, LeBron just admitted he can't beat them.
{pulls up chair, gets the kettle corn}
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
Always snappy, SCG.
They say if you can't beat them, join them. By joining them, LeBron just admitted he can't beat them.
I have a King Kong size pizza :D
Stu Lantz – For not being Hot Rod Hundley. Grade: A Motherfucking Superplus +.
I don't think its the pizza she likes.
lol. jk jk.
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Joshua S.
ummmmm.....
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 6, 2010 7:16 AM PDT up reply actions
What?
I’m just saying.
[Cue Denzel Voice]
“King Kong aint got nothing on ME!!”
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Joshua S.
WOAH!
TMI dude….lol
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 6, 2010 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions
What?
I make like twice as good of pizzas as King Kong could ever make
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Joshua S.
ummmm can i fight? i win at them things :)
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
well this was a MAJOR reply fail last nite eh? lol
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 6, 2010 7:16 AM PDT up reply actions
He is an A's fan
he is grasping at straws…..let him have it.
"Some people think they should go to heaven but NOT have to die to get there.
Sorry, but that’s simply not how it works."
"This is America, if we can’t self-righteously look down on others and blame them for our faults, the commies win."--Cormican on Aug 13, 2009 7:28 PM PDT
I think you mean
Just because you throw someone a pass, and they score, it doesn't mean you made them a better player.
This site still has it good when it comes to fanposts...
…compared to other NBA fan blogs in SB Nation.
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"No one wins forever. Only thing that matters is how you face it when the cards don't come up your way. I'm not afraid." - Spider-Man (Amazing Spider-Man #475)
kobe bryant=batman
defanately agree Bernel
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 6, 2010 7:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Rec'd This Article
It’ll probably seem like I’m missing the point here at first, but hear me out for a little :)
There are a lot of reasons why most people like me are lurkers on blogs like this for about 95% of the time.
Most of the time it’s because we may feel that the lack of knowledge regarding the topic we have in our heads may take away from an otherwise very fruitful discussion with others (After all, didn’t our mothers always teach us “If you have nothing good to say, don’t say anything at all”?).
Sometimes though, most of us just simply really enjoy reading through every bit of information posted, sifting through all the splendid (and most often humorous) back-and-forths between the regulars, and just plain absorbing and digesting everything in our minds, relishing every bit of it to our satisfaction.
However though, there are some times where it’s just easy to feel like you know much, much more than what you really do after reading through a lot of other people’s insights in their articles and comments, so it’s understandable why people succumb into posting what you have described in this article.
Most of the time when that happens, we post on a strong surge of a whim, and we just end up mirroring what other people have already mentioned and sometimes sprinkle in a little too much of our own personal seasonings on it, which often, more or less, doesn’t really help the discussion other than incite or provoke emotions from others as well, assuming some sort of disagreement is to be had.
In doing this of course, more often than not we end up ruining what it was what we loved so much about it in the first place.
That said, I think this article really speaks out testaments to how we should maintain the quality of this blog… not by withholding our opinions/ insights/ ideas by not posting of course, but merely by thinking first before doing so. Thank you good sir for posting this. ヽ(´ー`)人(´∇`)人(`Д´)ノ
back to lurking… again :p
by Hokkun on Aug 6, 2010 10:09 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Those are either butts or birds at the end of your comment.
Which?
BTW, nice post.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
Neither, really...
Meant to be smileys linking hands, but I can see how you perceive them that way.. xD
Also, thanks :)
Hey Hokkun....come out an play!!
Really good shit there and i agree with it. You can have fun here with the regs….we dont bite…..often HA!
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 7, 2010 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions
you're right, but that's easily fixed

And Hokkun, well said. Post more often. :D
"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec
"This isn't an apocalypse. It’s a motherf***ing war." -Hdg23
Cats musta been watching "True Blood"
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
LoL. That show's gotten increasingly homosexual...
Not that I have any problems with that, especially when they end the episodes like they did this last week.
Kobe is like constantly in Kill Mode - Ron Artest
Don't say anything! I didn't watch it Sunday so I have to catch it tonight.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
Oh, well in that case...
The show begins with….ahhh…jk. I wouldn’t do that, I hate spoilers.
Kobe is like constantly in Kill Mode - Ron Artest
{prepares to give back the ring}
I ate the Cracker Jacks.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
Bazinga.
"You know, I mean we have all this amazing technology and yet computers have turned into basically four figure wank machines. The internet was supposed to set us free, democratize us, but all it's really given us is Howard Dean's aborted candidacy and 24 hour a day access to kiddie porn. People... they don't write anymore, they blog. Instead of talking, they text, no punctuation, no grammar: LOL this and LMFAO that. You know, it just seems to me it's just a bunch of stupid people pseudo-communicating with a bunch of other stupid people at a proto-language that resembles more what cavemen used to speak than the King's English." — Hank Moody, Californication
by Josh Tucker on Aug 10, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Lewis Monroe
was definitely all personal seasoning. lmao.
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Joshua S.
lmao at the memory of that post!
"E-Coaches are heavy in here tonight! Take E-Sasha and put him on the E-bench on your fantasy league, that’ll show him!" - Jevon O
Very great post.
Welcome aboard! Feel free to make your presence and solid grammar known around here. =D
Kobe is like constantly in Kill Mode - Ron Artest
this
most of the time, too many cooks spoil the broth.
"E-Coaches are heavy in here tonight! Take E-Sasha and put him on the E-bench on your fantasy league, that’ll show him!" - Jevon O
rec'd
"E-Coaches are heavy in here tonight! Take E-Sasha and put him on the E-bench on your fantasy league, that’ll show him!" - Jevon O
except for the smileys attempt
they look like butts, lol!
"E-Coaches are heavy in here tonight! Take E-Sasha and put him on the E-bench on your fantasy league, that’ll show him!" - Jevon O
Sorry, not seeing it.
Just because you throw someone a pass, and they score, it doesn't mean you made them a better player.
I think your mind has to be in a certain place when you look at them
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Joshua S.
Dude, your mind lives there, just like mine.
Stop trying to fool these people.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
These people?
what you mean these people? lol
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Joshua S.
Them people?
Those people?
They people?
The people?
Thy people?
Thee people?
Them thar people?
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
ahhhh pirate speak rules....just made you hotter....lol
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 10, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Them thar people
is good with me.
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Joshua S.
i saw em Alt.....between the perenthisis guys
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 9, 2010 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions

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