The Great Betrayal... Shaquille O'neal
by Wise Laker Fan on Aug 4, 2010 9:19 PM PDT
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Unfortunately it's true and it is official, Shaquille O'neal has joined the Boston Celtics. Ten years ago we were jumping out of our seats in pure ecstasy as Kobe Bryant drove past Blazer defenders throwing up a lob to Shaq for a dunk, a Hollywood ending to a seven game series, thrusting the Lakers into a three-peat dynasty. At the time, Shaq was the most dominant force the game had ever seen, totally destroying teams with thunderous dunks and causing their entire front line to be in foul trouble. He was the next phase of Laker Legends.
Then of course we had our divorce, which led O'neal to play with many other teams, while we compiled a team that would again take three straight times to the finals, including winning the last two in a row. So he makes the move everyone in Lakerland would deem the most wicked, he signs with the Celtics. The CELTICS! The evil men of green, with the stupid Lepercon. What are the Celtics going to call themselves now? The Lepercon's in the hood?
Many of Laker fans couldn't have cared less where Shaq ended up finishing out his career. But now many of them are just mad as a raging bull. Others like myself, feel hurt, betrayed. How can he ruin the Laker legacy that he had spent the prime of his career establishing. That is exactly how we will all view it. Many outside of Lakerland will view him chasing another ring at the end of his playing days, so it's no big deal.
BUT IT IS A BIG DEAL.
In the West the Lakers have no real competition, and in the East there was going to be a war between Boston, Orlando, and Miami. But unless the Celtics are all hurt come playoff time, they won't have any real competion either! Orlando made no upgrades this offseason, Miami made a huge upgrade with the additions of Lebron James and Chris Bosh, but lets face it, they have NO inside game. So they are not contenders yet, they will be good, but not champions until they get a rotation that has some players that can play down in the block.
The Celtics on the other hand are going to go through the motions during the regular season, thanks to Docs brilliant planning. Funny thing, that's what Shaq tries to do too and is quiet good at it!
Everyone is talking about Perkins being out, but he will be back around the all-star break, it's not like he is going to be missing the playoffs. By the time the playoffs come around he will be in full swing, with the additions of Jermaine O'neal and Shaquille O'neal. They have now added vetran SIZE to a lineup that we dominated in the finals.
The Laker advantage as been in the paint because our players we taller. Many people are pointing out that Pau Gasol, Andrew Bynum ard Lamar Odom are better on paper; but let's be realistic, those guys are going to play soft compared to a frontline of KG, Shaq, Perkins, Jermaine and Big Baby. Many of the so called experts are claiming this move will be disruptive to their defensive schemes, but the guy who made those schemes is now coaching the Chicago Bulls. Doc Rivers only implemented them. So now they will just do some things differently.
Shaq may not be as talented and as dominant as he once was, but he is still big, and as good as Gasol is, I can see having Shaq and KG mess with his head. Of course Gasol could talk with Major Leauge Baseball and get his hands on some good recreational steriods to go along with a Arnold Swartzenager workout to beef him up, but I find that highly unlikely.
The deal is this, the Lakers just repeated by winning a game seven finals against are evil rivals, and then we upgrade our bench, making it seem nearly impossible for us not to three-peat; and then one of our own gets possessed by green in the middle of the night (I think green aliens did it) and claimed him as their own. Now we will still have to battle the Celtics in the NBA finals and this time we are going to have to hear about Kobe vs.Shaq and who has the better legacy, and how bad is it that Shaq is on the other side.
Of course the nice thing would be to three-peat and for Kobe to win his third straight Finals MVP, but the truth is if the Celtics win, then we are going to hear a bunch of crap for a LONG time. This attempt by Shaq to win a title was off limits the minute he signed with the Lakers as a free agent in 1996, every Laker great knows that, heck all Lakers know that. This is just a move you don't do.
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What do you know? A good Fanpost
In-depth, well written, polished and not about a topic that’s been talked to death on the front page. I’m pleased.
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by DexterFishmore on Aug 4, 2010 9:28 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Still guilty of the ever-so-pleasant hyperbole though
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
lol
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 4, 2010 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions
lol!
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
This post rests on the notion that Shaq is a significant difference maker at this juncture of his career
Which simply isn’t true. He has two legitimate uses — scoring in the post and post defense — that are largely pointless against most of the East contenders because they will simply pick-and-roll him to death. Orlando will force him out of the paint and Miami will simply run him off the court with what is likely going to be a very fast-paced offense.
Also, all of this moral indignation of Shaq signing with Boston is going overboard. Yes, he is arguably a Laker “great.” That said, he never went through any sort of rivalry with Boston while in L.A. past curb stomping them twice a season and already burned his bridges to L.A. after he was traded to Miami. He isn’t beholden to the Lakers in any fashion whatsoever, and to consider this a “betrayal” is silly. He wants to keep on playing and he got a spot with a team that was willing to take him on. I see practically nothing wrong with that.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Agreed for the most part
Yes, Shaq doesn’t owe anything to the Lakers, and I agree that this isn’t a betrayal…and yes for the most part, it’s just Shaq wanting to play for another contending team….
…except now….Shaq better not expect anything from the Lakers, which means any remaining respect, nostalgia, goodwill of any sort. This move goes beyond the normal burning of bridges…this is like declaring war.
It’s the fact that he joined the Celtics, our long hated rivals. Even if this isn’t a betrayal, I’m going to hate Shaq because he’s now a Celtic.
by alphax91 on Aug 4, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Can you name any other laker OR Celtic greats that switched sides?
No…Because it never happened!
Why do you believe both sides need to be good for it to be called a rivalry? Son, it always exists.
Born purple and gold. Live purple and gold. Die purple and gold.
by RA37thriller on Aug 5, 2010 1:42 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Because there is no "rivalry" unless it's for something that matters
Players don’t care about it until there is something significant at stake. We didn’t care at all about Sacramento in the early 2000s until they became an obstacle to us controlling the West and as soon as they started to suck, we stopped caring. Stop trying to construct this warped sense of moral responsibility that Shaq shouldn’t be expected to have by any measure.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
i bet
yuo change your mind if shaq is a contributor in the finals! that would be so pissing off
by wickedskillz on Aug 5, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Rick FOX!!!
duhh
Aybar is a nowhere man, Sitting in his Nowhere Land, Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.
by princeton11loveshalos on Aug 5, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I never knew that he was a great.
It's Kobe's world, but Lebron's just living in it. -- Czheck
http://twitter.com/smart_guy24
You wanted to be Vanessa Williams, didn't you.
"Winning takes talent; to repeat takes character." - John Wooden
Every fucking day.
Until he cheated on her. Then, not so much.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
LOL! crushin!
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 6, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
It got my vote partially because I really don't care, but also because the other options weren't great.
"Winning takes talent; to repeat takes character." - John Wooden
Erm, not quite everyone.
So he makes the move everyone in Lakerland would deem the most wicked, he signs with the Celtics.
“Don’t care” got my vote.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
yeah mine 3
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
Voted don't care
He became irrelevant when he changed out of his purple and gold the last time.
For me its the consistent inconsistency that concerns me - PAGFL
It's always AMMO Time, in spirit- DexterFishmore
I have a question.
Is the ‘lepercon’ a sadistic play of words or a typo?
The latter
"Some people think they should go to heaven but NOT have to die to get there.
Sorry, but that’s simply not how it works."
"This is America, if we can’t self-righteously look down on others and blame them for our faults, the commies win."--Cormican on Aug 13, 2009 7:28 PM PDT
Umm, Chris Bosh isn't a post threat?
Miami made a huge upgrade with the additions of Lebron James and Chris Bosh, but lets face it, they have NO inside game.
Just because you throw someone a pass, and they score, it doesn't mean you made them a better player.
From what I've read...
people have him with a more ‘outside’ game. Articles as well go by the assumption that he’ll ‘hang’ around the perimeter and wait for the occasional LeBron or Wade pass towards him. To be fair, I haven’t read much about them.
i like "dont give a rats ass"
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions
count me for that
Lebron has the ball, dribbles down the court splitting the lakers defenders with 5 seconds left on the clock with the game on the line in the 2011 nba finals game 7! Lebron pulls up from deep, in kobes face and drains the three pointer! HEAT WIN HEAT WIN!!! 89-88!!!!! BEEP BEEP BEEP then Lebrons alarm goes off and he wakes up and goes downstairs to eat a delicious breakfast made by Lebrons mom and Delonte West.
by Kobe:The Legend on Aug 5, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Or...
what? who’s Shaq? The fat guy who showed up out of shape/injured to work? Oh…I thought you were talking about someone important
failure is key!
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions
No...
…Shaq’s the same guy that was receiving those alley-oop lobs on Christmas Day, helping CLE beat you all.
He’ll do the same thing with us next season.
Shaq looked good on Jimmy Kimmel live, too, right before His Announcement the next day.
Shaq will help The Boston Celtics this season.
June 2011 Cannot Come Soon Enough.
by Celtics18and19 on Aug 6, 2010 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Sure he will...
I’ve also noticed that Kendrick Perkins and Big Baby appear to be in fantastic shape as well. There’s probably a reason Shaq hasn’t played in more than 60 games the last 4 years too.
Shaq is not the player he once was. Sure the Celtics got a good deal on him, but don’t count on his contributions to Team Green to be of great significance.
Speaking of Glen Davis....
Tell me that this man isn’t Light on His Feet? Take a look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIz80L9eJhA
I bet no Laker can dance like this! And he looks to be in Great Shape!
June 2011 Cannot Come Soon Enough.
by Celtics18and19 on Aug 6, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Mark Madsen would own Big Baby in a dance off!
"Winning takes talent; to repeat takes character." - John Wooden
by Joshua S on Aug 6, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I am actually pretty angry
You don’t go from a premier player on a franchise to title-hunting with it’s main rival.
In Soviet Russia, LA beats you.
by malmario on Aug 4, 2010 10:40 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Dude, his bus stopped at a lot of stations along the way.
He didn’t go from Los Angeles to Boston on a non-stop ride.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
Agree
Even though he never was part of the rivalry, and no other team wanted him, it does indeed feel dirty.
Just because you throw someone a pass, and they score, it doesn't mean you made them a better player.
Imagine if you worked a while for Microsoft, but they shit-canned you. If Apple offers you a job, are you really thinking, “I can’t accept this offer! I’ve got to remain loyal to that firm I worked for that one time. I will stop pursuing my chosen profession because of this rivalry that I have nothing do with.”
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by DexterFishmore on Aug 4, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I mean, there's nothing wrong with the decision he made.
It’s just, out of all the teams, it had to be the Celtics, so it feels dirty, like he’s just using them to beat the Lakers and get even with Kobe on 5 rings.
Just because you throw someone a pass, and they score, it doesn't mean you made them a better player.
Why do you care if he's using them to beat the Lakers and get a ring?
Isn’t that what players are supposed to do?
It had to be the Celtics because he wanted a job and no one else was offering. Shit, that’s why people clean toilets after they get laid off from the law firm. It’s a job. Shaq’s not hurting for money, but he still wants to play so if the Celtics offered him money to play, why shouldn’t he take it?
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
As I said, there's nothing wrong with what he did.
Chillax lol. It just feels weird, like he knew it would piss off Laker nation more, and Kobe.
Just because you throw someone a pass, and they score, it doesn't mean you made them a better player.
If you've been reading the comments, you should know I'm not the one who needs to chillax.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
LOL
I’m not trying to change people’s opinions. I’m not mad at Shaq, it just feels weird that it was the Celtics, but I understand he had to do whats best for him.
Just because you throw someone a pass, and they score, it doesn't mean you made them a better player.
apples taste GREAT!
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Comparing the NBA to the Microsoft world:mistake
Quick question dex, has there ever been a laker or Celtic great who has switched sides? No. It’s the greatest rivalry in the game. And please stop saying shaqs only option was Boston. Den, sa, dal, atl, were some of the few he was in contact with
Born purple and gold. Live purple and gold. Die purple and gold.
by RA37thriller on Aug 5, 2010 4:07 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
"In contact with" does not mean "received an offer from"
Quick answer, RA37thriller: in case my myriad comments on this subject somehow haven’t communicated this point, I don’t give a shit whether a Laker or Celtic great has ever switched sides. Imagine someone who really, really cares about that issue. Now imagine someone who basically doesn’t care at all. Now imagine someone who cares way less than that second person. That third person is me.
I root for the Lakers to win. That’s what I care about. That’s all I care about. I’m interested in who plays for other teams to the extent, and only to the extent, that it affects the Lakers’ chances of winning. Shaq can do whatever he damn well wants with his life, because at this point in his career he’s a spent force. Nothing he does is going to affect whether the Lakers win next year. Therefore, not a single molecule in my body gives a shit about whether he plays for the Celtics.
I’m trying to think of different ways I can express my utter, profound indifference to the issue but obviously I’m failing. You are free to be miserable, indignant, outraged and flabbergasted to the point that you’re leaking bodily fluids about this, but there are no combination of words, letters or phonetic characters from the English or any other language that you can possibly assemble that will cause me to have any emotional or intellectual reaction to information about Shaq signing with Boston.
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by DexterFishmore on Aug 5, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions 10 recs
Wait! So do you care that he signed with the Celtics? JK I wouldn't want to get ripped a new one
REC! : )
"That means no more coming into camp fat and out of shape, when your team is relying on your leadership on and off the court. It also means no more blaming others for our team's failure, or blaming staff members for not overdramatizing your injuries so that you avoid blame for your lack of conditioning. " Kobe on Shaq being a leader
lol Jelly!
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Be still my heart.
Sexy Dexy just got sexier, if that’s possible.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
by SoCalGal on Aug 5, 2010 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, too lazy to find the Big Baby pic.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
niiice Dex! REC for shear kindergarten teacher style explanation!
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh..my.. word!
WE ARE CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't ever underestimate the heart of a champion." -- Rudy Tomjanovich
by rs850_Lakers on Aug 6, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
“Imagine if you worked a while for Microsoft, but they shit-canned you. If Apple offers you a job, are you really thinking, ‘I can’t accept this offer! I’ve got to remain loyal to that firm I worked for that one time. I will stop pursuing my chosen profession because of this rivalry that I have nothing do with.’
C’mon Dexter, that’s a real poor example, I know you can do better. Shaq was never shit-canned, if anything, Shaq was fired for being subordinate to management. Why should it surprise any of us that he goes to a rival?
He was actually insubordinate and it doesn't surprise most of us.
That’s the point of Dex’s comment.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
My bad on the insubordination
But Dexter’s quote is put in the wrong context. He was never shit-canned, and Shaq is to near-sighted and narrow minded to think about the rivalry too. The only rivalry he wants to remember is the one between him and Kobe.
You're preaching to the choir.
You need to be telling this to RA37thriller, not me and certainly not Dex as you can see from above.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
Shaq to narrow minded? opinion! lol
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 6, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
That's a difference without a distinction
OK, so Microsoft traded you to Intel. And then later, when you left Intel, you worked for Cisco, and then HP and then Google. And then at the end of your career, Apple’s the only one who wants you. Whether you do or don’t want to go work for Microsoft, it doesn’t matter, because they’re not hiring you.
How on earth does that change the analysis?
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by DexterFishmore on Aug 6, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Shit, my heart's beating faster.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
eat a double down
that’ll get rid of the feeling quickly.
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Joshua S.
I don't want you dead
I figured a self-induced heart attack was better than an accidentally produced one. lol.
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Joshua S.
Whew, thought you were mad at me!
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
I wouldn't blame the employee for going to Apple...
but, he better not expect Microsoft to honor him as “Employee of the Month” after-the-fact. If the computer industry chooses to award him for lifetime achievement, fine, but hopefully he understands if Microsoft brass wishes him well and tells him to move on.
"Winning takes talent; to repeat takes character." - John Wooden
No other Laker or Celtic great has ever done this
My Dad actually pointed this out to me today. I thought that fact speaks volumes.
Born purple and gold. Live purple and gold. Die purple and gold.
by RA37thriller on Aug 5, 2010 1:45 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well maybe you should change the way you think of Shaq
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Joshua S.
I did, he no longer is SHAQ....
He’s part of “The O’neal’s”.
"They call me the Muffin Man"
by true_lakerfan on Aug 5, 2010 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions
again, didnt you feel betrayed when he went to the Heat?
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
yes i did
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Not at all.
The Heat are 0.1% of the rival that the Celtics are.
I was disappointed that the team was breaking up after the 2004 season.
I was extremely upset with Mitch that he traded Shaq without getting Wade in return.
But I didn’t mind if either Dallas or Miami won the championship in 2006.
I would never want the Celtics to win a championship, no matter who plays on their team.
You see? You see? Your stupid minds! Stupid! Stupid!
really??
he had the nerve to trash the organization, Phil, and Kobe after the trade despite all the things we did for him. He said Wade was the “best teammate” he has played with. He left the team in complete ruin. He burned the bridges with the trade to the Heat. The Celtics are yet another team on his list of stops. I really dont give a crap at this point. And again, he was NEVER part of the rivalry. The Celtics were bottomfeeders in the East/ 1st round exit bound when he was with us. We never played any significant games against them. There is no rivalry when one team is crushing the other by 37 points in a regular season game.
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
Also
he has NO loyalty to this team anymore. He didnt care if the Celtics are our rivals. Shaq was desperate for a job and the Celtics were pretty much his last option. He ended his loyalty with the organization/ team when he got traded to the Heat and to hold him to this standard of “understanding the rivalry” after all the things he said about Buss, Phil, and Kobe is just unrealistic.
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
GO SHAQ4!!!
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 8, 2010 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude, did you really think this was remotely possible?
I was extremely upset with Mitch that he traded Shaq without getting Wade in return.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
short bus or long one?
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions
HA! cant be to short though
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Sure you do
if the franchise for whom you were a premier player doesn’t want you anymore.
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by DexterFishmore on Aug 4, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
It's like yesterday all over again. They just don't seem to get it.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
I completely understand why you guys don't really care about it.
My feeling is that I, at one point in my life, really liked Shaq. I just hate that he’s going to our rival.
In Soviet Russia, LA beats you.
by malmario on Aug 4, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I dont get it because i dont agree with Dex?
It seems you and Dex dont seem to get why some of us are so angry about it.
Born purple and gold. Live purple and gold. Die purple and gold.
by RA37thriller on Aug 5, 2010 1:46 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You are absolutely right about that. I don't get why you're so angry about it and you don't get why we, and whole lot of other people, just don't give a shit.
It has nothing to do with agreeing with Dex or anyone else, which, BTW, really seems to send you into a tizzy. No one says you have to agree. Just stop trying to shove down our throats the idea that we should be angry and then getting pissed off when we don’t.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
by SoCalGal on Aug 5, 2010 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
woah woah woah.....nobody us shoving nothing down MY throat
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions
lol...
"That means no more coming into camp fat and out of shape, when your team is relying on your leadership on and off the court. It also means no more blaming others for our team's failure, or blaming staff members for not overdramatizing your injuries so that you avoid blame for your lack of conditioning. " Kobe on Shaq being a leader
It's just that
when you say “they don’t get it” it feels kinda groupthink-y. It’s opinion. It’s not that we don’t “get it.”
In Soviet Russia, LA beats you.
by malmario on Aug 5, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, we all use the word "we" when we talk about the Lakers, but that doesn't mean we're all players
or even part of the organization. It’s a generalization, perhaps unfair. I’ll keep that in mind going forward.
To be clear, in this instance, there is a small group, the “they”, that don’t get why “we” are not upset about Shaq, and keep trying to tell us why we absolutely must be angry, especially if we’re real Lakers fans. That’s more insulting than “group think” speak.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
Who is telling anyone what to think
I was explaining why I was angry. I didn’t look at your posts describing why you were not angry and say “hey you don’t get it.”
In Soviet Russia, LA beats you.
Honey, you're not the only person posting in this thread or responding to my comments. Read everything.
It’s not all about you.
;-)
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
I've read the thread.
I don’t see anyone forcing opinions onto anybody. If I missed another thread or something I apologize.
In Soviet Russia, LA beats you.
Re-read Dex's green post above, you'll understand where I'm coming from.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
Just one comment.....
“Everyone is talking about Perkins being out, but he will be back around the all-star break, it’s not like he is going to be missing the playoffs. By the time the playoffs come around he will be in full swing, with the additions of Jermaine O’neal and Shaquille O’neal. They have now added vetran SIZE to a lineup that we dominated in the finals.:
Don’t forget the Celtics were up 3-2 in the series before Perkins tore 3 ligaments in his knee during the 1st quarter of game 6. How do you suppose the Lakers were dominating that lineup and yet down in the series?
Yes
There was no domination in the Finals. Only survival. But that’s all we needed.
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by DexterFishmore on Aug 4, 2010 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I love when Celtics fans talk about Perkins' injury
But disreguard Bynum’s injuries in the finals.
Just because you throw someone a pass, and they score, it doesn't mean you made them a better player.
by LakerUNLTD on Aug 4, 2010 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions 7 recs
This is also true
Truth!
For me its the consistent inconsistency that concerns me - PAGFL
It's always AMMO Time, in spirit- DexterFishmore
lol speak on it!
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Brought up Perkins because it is pertinent to the argument....
that the Lakers DIDN’T dominate the Celtics with their size until AFTER Perkins was injured. For the series, the Celts scored more points in the paint and outrebounded the Lakers in 3 of the 1st 5 games of the series. Does that mean Boston would have won the series had Perkins played? No. But, it means there wasn’t domination.
As for Bynum’s injury, I think we are all used to him having an injury or two every season. Unfortunate, but true.
either way......LAKERS got the trophys!
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
haha a messed up spelling for trophies there smart guy
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe....
Because Bynum wouldn’t have made a difference in the games you lost?
Him and Ariza wouldn’t made a difference in 2008, either.
June 2011 Cannot Come Soon Enough.
by Celtics18and19 on Aug 6, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
You can't say that anymore than Lakers fans could guarantee a win if Bynum were healthy.
You earned your title, we earned ours, next year will be a lot of fun.
"Winning takes talent; to repeat takes character." - John Wooden
by Joshua S on Aug 6, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think the Lakers dominated games one and two
But the Celtics did score more in the paint on us in the series. Begs to wonder…
For me its the consistent inconsistency that concerns me - PAGFL
It's always AMMO Time, in spirit- DexterFishmore
You're misremembering a bit
The Lakers lost Game Two.
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by DexterFishmore on Aug 4, 2010 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Heh... yeah
Although game 6 is kinda like game 2?
For me its the consistent inconsistency that concerns me - PAGFL
It's always AMMO Time, in spirit- DexterFishmore
Sounds like... pleh nm
For me its the consistent inconsistency that concerns me - PAGFL
It's always AMMO Time, in spirit- DexterFishmore
You know what don’t b.s us with your excuses of Kendrick Perkins injury. When you guys beat the Los Angeles Lakers in 2008 we were missing our starting center Andrew Bynum and we pushed you guys to a game 6 where you guys won. As of right now Andrew Bynum is better than Shaq and Pau Gasol is way better than Kevin Garnett on paper and on the court. The Lakers have the best big men in the NBA, Andrew Bynum, Pau Gasol, Lamar Odom, Derrick Caracter, Theo Ratliff over K.G, Shaq, J. O’Neal, Davis, Perkins any day of the week buddy.
" I wanna be the best, I wanna be the best simple and plain and to be the best you have to win and thats what drives me" -Kobe Bryant
by 15xtimeNBAchamps on Aug 5, 2010 1:38 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
lol love the Gasol is way better than KG on paper arguement
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions
There's two things wrong with your post...
The first is your username…the second is assuming that Derrick Caracter is better than ANY non-rookie in the NBA. I understand supporting your team, but as far as I’ve heard Caracter isn’t even a Laker yet and Theo Ratliff is just a garbage time player.
Kobe is like constantly in Kill Mode - Ron Artest
TACO TIME!!!!!!
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I picked up on the Caracter line too and thought "LOLWUT?"
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
hey....he is a caracter eh? lol
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions
oh common! you gotta bring crickets in here....i trump with cricket eating lizards!
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
not too upset, but if ammo joins the celtics, i'm gonna freaking lose it
by vitzeng on Aug 5, 2010 12:10 AM PDT reply actions 4 recs
Ammo will probably sign some where in Mexico
because they got the best kind of weed…
LOL RBaller
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions
No other Laker or Celtic great have ever switched sides
That just shows the seriousness of the rivalry. I’m glad you took notice. Well written piece.
Born purple and gold. Live purple and gold. Die purple and gold.
by RA37thriller on Aug 5, 2010 1:38 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
dude
it’s only a rivalry when both sides have a chance of winning. You think if pierce and Antoine’s celtics made it to the finals that year, it would have been a rivalry? That would be like putting MOhammad Ali in the ring with wilt frazier and calling it a rivalry. boxer vs boxer = rivalry. boxer vs little kid, not so much.
Absolutely not.
A rivalry is always a rivalry.
Even when a team is terrible, they consider their season a success if they beat their main rival.
Whether it’s Lakers-Celtics or UCLA-USC, even if you are well below 0.500, if you beat your big rival, your season is successful.
Consider Portland and Sacramento in their “down” years. They still get up to play the Lakers.
And the Celtics are orders of magnitude beyond those teams in terms of being a rival to the Lakers.
You see? You see? Your stupid minds! Stupid! Stupid!
it wont matter
will the celtics get past the heat anyways?
I'm not mad just frustrated
it’s like this…if shaq was gonna jump on a team just to chase one last ring, why the celtics why not the Lakers? Especially if he wants to go out “graciously”…i mean what could be more gracious than offering to take a massive pay cut at the vets min to come back to the team that helped you build your legacy? take the time to redeem all the antics and b.s. from the past. earn a ring or two and end your career in L.A. with the lakers retiring your # and hoisting it into the rafters. I’m not saying that we are doomed or that shaq makes some significant difference but for us he could have. he could have avoided injury and fatigue hiding out on the bench playing the DJ role of cheer leader played some garbage minutes or even played some serious minutes (10 to 15) to relieve bynum and allow pau to focus on dominating at PF. then he’s one less match up we have to worry about and we are guaranteed two more rings becuz no one can match up against a line up that has a combination of pau, bynum, odom, shaq, carcter.
Seeing the domination in this and acknowledging the stupid issues of immaturity which made this impossible is what upsets me. otherwise i could careless.
All i can say now is I’m glad its over and now i know kobe will play that much harder when we face the celtics.
the lakers didn't want him
Forget vet’s min, they probably wouldn’t pick him up if he paid 3 mil to play.
he woulda had to kneel to General Zodd....lol
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions
who the eff cares
let the “big watever” do anything he wants. i’ll admit, when he went to the cavs, i was a little frightenend bc lebron was was making Anderson Varajeo look good so i thought he would make shaq into another all star. but the fat bastard showed us how much he fell off the face of the earth. he constantly missed games bc of his out of shapeness. Let him go to the Celtics. He will probably injure his big toe again and sit out for 50 games. not sweating this for a minute
Kobe: "Listen, if you told me at the beginning of the year that we’ve got two games at home to win a championship, yeah, I’ll take that shit"
I get it, its a rivalry. Yay!!!
Lets all curse the one Laker great who didn’t retire as a Laker and left on bad terms from the team and continued to play for another 6, now going to be 8 years after he left the Lakers. It only makes sense that it would happen eventually. All records are made to be broken. It makes no logical or rational sense to be upset about this. Its not like when he left Orlando to go to the Lakers strictly for money. We weren’t trying to get him. In fact, pretty much no one else was. It was the Celtics or Shaq would be calling himself the Big Israeli in Tel Aviv. Honestly, no other Laker great burned as many bridges as Shaq and the Celtics were bottom feeding fodder for his years here so he has no rivalry. He’s always been self-interested and he doesn’t care about the Lakers history, in fact he probably didn’t even consider it. This isn’t freaking betrayal. Betrayal was going to Miami finally working out for the first time in like 4 years and then playing the way we wanted him to all those years prior. No, this is not betrayal, this is sad that this is what his career has become. If he was disciplined in his work ethic, he could be still be killing teams and would probably still be with the Heat or Phx or Cle still demanding money. Since he wasn’t and isn’t disciplined he has to settle for a vets min offer that came a month after the season ended. He could’ve been the greatest and he surely has not lived up to it. There is no reason to be upset, if anything empathize that he now has to play wheelchair basketball, since thats the only way Pierce can practice without crying over an injury. This is sad what a joke the end of his career has been because it could’ve been great. I have no feelings of sadness or betrayal on this decision. In fact, honestly I don’t care.
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Joshua S.
by Marty Mart on Aug 5, 2010 6:11 AM PDT reply actions 4 recs
WOW Marty.....long ass paragraph!
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
ehh
sometimes I get overzealous in content of a thought and it turns into this. Makes it a bitch to edit papers.
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Joshua S.
LOL!
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
yes yes without the oops
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions
So fucking true.
Honestly, no other Laker great burned as many bridges as Shaq and the Celtics were bottom feeding fodder for his years here so he has no rivalry. He’s always been self-interested and he doesn’t care about the Lakers history, in fact he probably didn’t even consider it. This isn’t freaking betrayal. Betrayal was going to Miami finally working out for the first time in like 4 years and then playing the way we wanted him to all those years prior.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
by SoCalGal on Aug 5, 2010 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
agreed!
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Oooo, SCG you cursed....I don't remember seeing you curse before...
I guess all the fancy words go out the window during the off-season. =) I’m rec’ing your f-bomb usage.
Kobe is like constantly in Kill Mode - Ron Artest
haha thats like totally awesome.....rec for the fuck of it!
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
sailormoon?
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Good thing there's a "don't care" option on the poll then, ey?? lol
Kobe is like constantly in Kill Mode - Ron Artest
The truth about this signing is that for the Celtics this is more of a desperation act
because they know they have 1 and maybe two more shots at a title before they are in rebuilding mode. The Lakers easily have about 4-5 more shots at this. While we add veterans to improve the Celtics are adding players just to stay above water.
That argument that they took the Lakers to a game 7 proves nothing. They keep saying that if Perkins was healthy…blah..blah.. If Bynum and Ariza were healthy in 08 they would still be on a 22+ year drought without a title. If signing Shaq keeps opens up their window enough to give them hope then let them. That is only temporary.
"That means no more coming into camp fat and out of shape, when your team is relying on your leadership on and off the court. It also means no more blaming others for our team's failure, or blaming staff members for not overdramatizing your injuries so that you avoid blame for your lack of conditioning. " Kobe on Shaq being a leader
Yo Jelly.....it's all a bunch of IF's either way......IS's dont matter.....za crown is OURS!
muuuuuuuaaaaaaahahahahha
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I dont think we would have won in 2008
even if we had a healthy Bynum/ Ariza because the Celtics were a much heatlhier team. As for the whole Perkins situation, people easily seem to forget the Rasheed Wallace played excellent defense in that game to make life rough for Pau and Kobe and also contributed nicely on the offensive end, helping the Celtics build that lead in the 3rd quarter.
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
that is what i keep saying!
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Celtics fans...
most of them will never admit the Lakers beat them unless Lakers win while playing with hundreds of injuries, the Celtics players averaging career highs across the board with no injuries.
And even then, the Celtics fans will be claiming the refs gave the game to the Lakers…
you can’t win with irrational fans like that…
Huh?
You all won in June. You survived a hard-fought battle in 7 games.
I do think it’s unfair to generalize all Celtics Fans as irrational, though. I don’t think all Laker Fans are irrational. I’ll even overlook how LA Fans reacted to some questionable calls on Christmas Day – on National Television.
I do have issues with how the games were officiated throughout the series, especially game 7, but I’m moving on from that.
You all won. You now have 16 banners, and The Boston Celtics have 17 Banners.
We’ll have 18 Banners by June 2011.
June 2011 Cannot Come Soon Enough.
by Celtics18and19 on Aug 6, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I see you are still trying to sell us on the idea that because the Cavs beat the Lakers with Shaq on their team it has anything to do with the results of a possible C’s vs Lakers matchup. : )
Agree with you on the generalizing comment btw.
btw..you mentioned before that you had moved on from the officiating topic but if you keep mentioning it that only proves that you actually havent.
"That means no more coming into camp fat and out of shape, when your team is relying on your leadership on and off the court. It also means no more blaming others for our team's failure, or blaming staff members for not overdramatizing your injuries so that you avoid blame for your lack of conditioning. " Kobe on Shaq being a leader
You are Very Correct, Jelly Bean...
I haven’t moved on from it, but the process has started. I’ll always have questions about how that Game 7 was officiated, but I still give LA credit for the win.
I’ve went from “Mostly Cloudy, with a Good Chance of Thunderstorms”, to Partly Sunny, Mild Temps, low Humidity", if you get my drift.
And you are correct about the selling part – I really, really believe that Danny pulled off a good one with this signing. Whether you like The Celtics or it’s players, you have to admit that Shaq will play a LOT better in Green than he did in CLE. He will be surrounded by overall better players, and KG will play well with J.O. and him.
Is Shaq older? Sure he is. But in certain situations he can help us.
June 2011 Cannot Come Soon Enough.
by Celtics18and19 on Aug 6, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Appreciate the honesty. There are many fan bases with emotional fans but the rivalry between the Celtics and Lakers’ fan base is unique. We take the pain of a loss to a different level. I am in the same boat. I still cannot watch any 08 Finals highlights.
Lol..I get it.
No doubt the signing was a good one. But because of the faith that I have in the Lakers winning I cant admit that the Celtics will beat the Lakers. But it is possible that Shaq will play better. But nothing is a guarantee. That is why they play the games and we will have to wait and see.
"That means no more coming into camp fat and out of shape, when your team is relying on your leadership on and off the court. It also means no more blaming others for our team's failure, or blaming staff members for not overdramatizing your injuries so that you avoid blame for your lack of conditioning. " Kobe on Shaq being a leader
What's the big deal?
IIRC, wasn’t Brian Shaw a Celtic once? The Lakeshow got away with murder when they signed him so this Snaq a Celtic shit is no biggie.
shhhhhhhhh dont tell!
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions
you guys are just giving people more cannon fodder
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Who promptly retired when we traded him back to the Celtics rather than wear the green again.
Rick Fox, yummy. But kind of a dick.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
yummy? you eat your men?
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
LMAO! im far enough away and got big guns to protect me :)
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah....but what a dick, right SCG?? ahhhhhh jk jk. =D
Kobe is like constantly in Kill Mode - Ron Artest
ummmmmmm.....
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Dude, I know where this is going, but umm, there's no delete button.
20/20 hindsight.
Kobe is like constantly in Kill Mode - Ron Artest
hey.....you said it!
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
i wont tell anybody.....your secret is safe with me!
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Doubt that. I'm gonna see this as a fanpost in 10 minutes...I know it..
Kobe is like constantly in Kill Mode - Ron Artest
lmao i wouldnt do that to you good buddy!
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
HA HA!
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL!
That happened to me during the season. OMG, I was mortified. Dex offered to delete but I just had to deal with my shame.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
I'm not mortified, but I saw you seemed to have an infatuation with Mr. Fox..
Side notes are awkward in public forums..
Kobe is like constantly in Kill Mode - Ron Artest
I do still have a thing for him, and the older he gets, the better looking.
My comment was mortifying, yours not so much, just funny.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
yeah....we men age like a fine wine
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
a sour one?
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, like the green ones... those are delicious..
Kobe is like constantly in Kill Mode - Ron Artest
green eh? i knew ur a closet Celt!
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm eating them! The way the Lakers ate the Celts in the second half of Game 7
Kobe is like constantly in Kill Mode - Ron Artest
niiice....comeback
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Yep.
You all came back from 13 pts down..this much is true.
But I’ll never forget that Epic Comeback in Game 4 of the 2007-08 NBA Finals…..Now THAT was a Classic!
You all had us down what 26 pts?
June 2011 Cannot Come Soon Enough.
by Celtics18and19 on Aug 6, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions
way to bring up old shit....lol
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 6, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
You can't even remember your good history correctly.
It was 24 points.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
24, 26?
Same thing….but it was Beatiful….man I’ll never forget that game.
And then watching Walter Ray Allen cross up Sasha there at the end……..priceless.
June 2011 Cannot Come Soon Enough.
by Celtics18and19 on Aug 6, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, it's a nice memory to have for your old age.
Cherish it, for that’s probably as good as it’s gonna get for you.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
lol!
No…many more memories to come….when do the Lakers play the Celtics again?
Rondo will be like a Kid in a Candy Store – “Who should I throw this lob to? Shaq? KG? J.O.?”
And how many more months to June 2011?
June 2011 Cannot Come Soon Enough.
by Celtics18and19 on Aug 6, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
I think....
That with Shaq signing in Boston, that is The Lakers biggest fear right now – a Seven Game Series in June 2011, having to deal with Shaq, even in his limited nature.
Seven Games…..think about it….KG, Shaq, Glen, J.O. and eventually Perk.
That is a LOT of real estate, and bruised Lakers.
June 2011 Cannot Come Soon Enough.
by Celtics18and19 on Aug 6, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
"Who should I throw this lob to?"
by DexterFishmore on Aug 6, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions 8 recs
LOL, perfect!
One of the absolute best moments of the entire season.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
LOVE IT!!!!!!
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 6, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I Like This One Better, Though.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HH4kRmcLVJQ
And then Lamar O’dom gets ejected – Sweet!!
June 2011 Cannot Come Soon Enough.
by Celtics18and19 on Aug 6, 2010 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions
wow. nobody cared
Now you know -- Manny Pacquaio
Facebook
Let this be a reminder to all of us; without competition, without that possibility (and realization) of failure, success would be meaningless. -- Zephid, FB&G
Wine, whine, same diff.
We still love you guys.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
as long as we got cheese its all good eh?
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
and when was that....i cant even remember yesterday
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
oh....i may had seen it i dont remember
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Can I get a verbatim copy of that comment? That would be great.=
Kobe is like constantly in Kill Mode - Ron Artest
I chose to set fire to anything green.
Not because of shaq but because i love to hate the celtics.
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
by Hdg23 on Aug 5, 2010 8:29 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I was about to say the same exact same thing.
Shaq’s not gonna make the Celtcs the clear-cut favorites in the east like the Lakers are out west. There’s no telling what Dwight will get out of Hakeem, how the Miami Big 3, will work out, and how Boozer will work out with the Bulls. Right now, no team is the obvious pick to rep. the east.
"The only difference between a good shot and a bad shot is if it goes in or not."
- Charles Barkley
West is still the best!
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Bridge burned and salted but why is the "but I still will punch a leprocon in the face" not an option on all of the choices?
While I really don’t care about Shaq’s influence on the green, he basically signed a 1/2 year contract, I am kind of pissed that he again did his best to make sure the bridge between him and the Lakers and their fans stays burned. I suppose this is the only reason to accept this decision is he probably only has a 1/2 year left, but somehow it still annoys me he will end his career there.
Just more time he has to spend in Laker pergatory I suppose.
As far as ability, all of the quickness will be gone, but the free throw shooting ability the same.
by Cool Dudes on Aug 5, 2010 10:32 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
LOL@free throw ability....he aint got none
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 5, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I felt more betrayed when Robert Horry went to the spurs
I so don’t care that Im ready to set anything on fire out of boredom. Could that be an option?
Kobe, God and I don't tweet. Everyone else does.
HOW IS THIS A BETRAYAL?!
sorry for all caps, but seriously guys.
1. It’s not like he had been on the Lakers within the past 5 years.
2. It’s not like he chose between us and them. We didn’t have an interest in signing him and rightly so.
3. In fact, it seems that the vast majority of NBA teams didn’t have interest in Shaq
4. I would be more pissed if he went to Miami where he could actually be a huge upgrade for them (only because whoever Miami got was likely to be terrible)
5. Boston will actually be worse with his presence. We will pick n roll his A$$ all day, not to mention hack a Shaq.
6. Instead of Boston getting younger, and more athletic, they went even older.
7 Rasheed was a better signing for them, and he didn’t really help that much. I forsee Shaq helping even less.
one more thing....
There is no way the Celtics make it back to the finals…. their age is gonna catch up to them sometime… so even if they do make it to the finals again, they will be once again dog tired and wont be able to go to compete in a long series. And Kendrick Perkins will be healthy and Shaq will have a significantly reduced role
Celtics now have the deepest frontline!
Which is a travesty. Do you really think that Miami is going to pick and roll the Celtics to death? That is really their only move, and Boston has other guys that are more than able to rotate to make up the difference, and they are well coached. The addition of both O’neals gives boston 14 FEET, 600 POUNDS AND 12 more fouls to punish other teams with. Both players are upgrades over Rasheed Walace, and throw Perkins back in there, and this team is better. Sure neither of the O’neals are in their prime, doesn’t matter! What they have left fills in the whole which we exposed during the finals. The are taller, stronger, and have a complete team. This move if they are healthy by playoff time will repeat last years performance.
Shaq can still get 10 points, 6 rebounds, 2 blocks and 4-5 fouls off the bench for Boston, which is enough to overcome last year’s deficit. Good for us we made some upgrades over our own in the backcourt Jermaine can also be a little effective down low. The point is not that these two O’neals are stars but that they will be producitve in an area they were not before, which we had a major advantage, plus we will hear about Shaq this, Shaq that… and on the side of Boston which is just horrible.
Basketball is a thing of BEAUTY!
Exactly. So why all the angst?
Good for us we made some upgrades over our own in the backcourt
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They are taller, stronger, and have a complete team
I agree somewhat.. but with a healthy Bynum to bump against Perkins/Shaq in the paint.. and if we did meet them in the Finals, you dont think Bynum would play the ball of his life? Bring it on.. I would love to see Bynum step up his game to the next level and crush Shaq in that scenario.. . and who’s that other O’Neal? where did he go in the playoffs this last year? 4.2 ppg and 1.4 TO’s?? and we’re worried?? come on now..
You really need to stop overreacting
Do you really think that Miami is going to pick and roll the Celtics to death? That is really their only move, and Boston has other guys that are more than able to rotate to make up the difference, and they are well coached
Yeah, so when Shaq’s man goes up to set the screen and Shaq doesn’t bother to show or make an effort on the ball handler, the rest of the defense collapses and the ball handler is free to throw a pass to wing for an open shot, hit a cutter, or given that this is Wade and LeBron after all, just power their way to the basket and likely get fouled because they now have a head of steam due to no big showing. As for Orlando, Nelson likely gets an open midrange shot in this scenario or Lewis gets an open three. Shaq is really helpful in this situation.
The addition of both O’neals gives boston 14 FEET, 600 POUNDS AND 12 more fouls to punish other teams with.
Except Jermaine O’Neal is a glorified midrange jump shooter and this stage of his career and while he’s still an effective defensive player, he’s a far cry from the dominant defensive player he was in Indiana. Shaq’s usage on defense is solely guarding post players; he’s practically useless anywhere else and as previously noted, a big liability against Miami and Orlando.
Both players are upgrades over Rasheed Walace, and throw Perkins back in there, and this team is better. Sure neither of the O’neals are in their prime, doesn’t matter! What they have left fills in the whole which we exposed during the finals. The are taller, stronger, and have a complete team. This move if they are healthy by playoff time will repeat last years performance.
Still a chronic lack of scoring from that bunch though save Shaq to a limited degree, as he likely won’t play a little more than 20 minutes a game and the defense will dip noticeably while he’s in the game. Boston is still going to rely heavily on Rondo, Allen, and Pierce to create shots in the halfcourt, and as it was in the Finals, this is a huge problem for them.
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we wouldn’t even be talking about shaq much less give a shit if he signed with any team other than the celts.
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by bobc-lakersfan on Aug 5, 2010 1:01 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Size does matter
This is a great move for the celtics. I hate it. I am one of the Shaq fans, but been a fan of the Lakers for over 30yrs. Travis Knight going to the Celtics…cool. We steal Rick Fox…very cool…Shaq in green: fk no.
This will help them. Shaq had lower stats last year, in less minutes. He draws fouls, beats down bodies by simply standing there, and is still one of the better C’s still playing even if he is a shadow of his former self.
On the other hand it makes it likely we see the Celtics again in the finals, and it would be sweet to beat them AGAIN.
by maleko on Aug 5, 2010 2:16 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
look at it this way
if its game 7 Boston vs. LA, we always got hack-a-shaq now
and we got backup too!!! (hack-a-rondo)
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Shaq is like a cheap gold-digger...
He is going on a ring-chase but it didn’t work with the Suns, didn’t work with the Cavs and it won’t work with the Celtics…
...I can wait to see Kobe or Shannon Posterize Shaq...
by kingofatlanta on Aug 5, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Kobe does not posterize people anymore
D:
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Lebron would like to disagree
lol.
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Nonetheless, I see the Celtics as more of a threat than the Heat
Just too many large bodies. tsk.
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Voted "Don't care"
Shaq didn’t help the Suns or the Cavs, so I see no reason to believe it will be different with the Celtics. Celtics are a good team don’t get me wrong, however he will make them older and slower.
If you haven’t seen it then listen to Jim Rome’s take on Shaq. I couldn’t help but laugh when I watched it. It’s after is rant on A-Rod.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkSkPaxj9jg
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You Know, I must comment on this one:
Look – I know this is a Laker Blog, but how could you all let Jim Rome of all people say that about Shaq?
To me, Shaq IS the Lakers…sure he’s wearing Green now, and he’ll certainly help us, but Jim Rome has no right whatsoever to say this about Shaquille O’Neal.
Sure – he has a lot of extra activiities…sure he has said and done things he shouldn’t have…..but Please Lakers Fans: Don’t let the fact that Shaquille O’Neal signed with us blind you all to the fact that this man should have his jersey retired – IN LA.
And Jime Rome Comments don’t mean a thing to me.
His Legacy? No matter how good Magic, Kareem or Worthy was – they didn’t do it THREE TIMES in a ROW, like Shaq helped LA do.
Don’t be blinded by seeing him in Green to the fact that Shaq demanded Double and Triple Teams, and was most of the time LA’s Only Low Post Threat.
I’m happy that Shaq signed with us – Big Time. And of course I’ll be happier to see Shaq win Ring Number 5 – In Green. But – In My Opinion Only – you cannot let JR take what Shaq did for LA away from the history Books.
He will go down in History as One of the Most Dominant, Ever – and he attained that Title while he wore Purple and Gold.
And he isn’t done. He has more Banners to hoist.
June 2011 Cannot Come Soon Enough.
by Celtics18and19 on Aug 6, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
cant we vote "dont care" here?
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For once, we are in agreement.
And Jime Rome Comments don’t mean a thing to me.
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Forgot to finish.
Why should we care what Jim Rome has to say about Shaq? Shaq doesn’t play for the Lakers and hasn’t for 6 years. He is no longer our problem, nor our concern. He’s a big boy and can fight his own battles, with Jim Rome and anyone else who comes along.
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All I'm saying is...
I thought there would be more sentimental remarks about the Big Fella. I’m finding it hard to believe that there is not a lot of concern here for what JR said.
June 2011 Cannot Come Soon Enough.
by Celtics18and19 on Aug 6, 2010 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
At this moment, there are 269 (270 including this one) comments in this thread. Have you not read any of them?
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You capitalize a lot of words.
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by DexterFishmore on Aug 6, 2010 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
And you..
Are very observant.
June 2011 Cannot Come Soon Enough.
by Celtics18and19 on Aug 6, 2010 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't forget "devilishly handsome"
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by DexterFishmore on Aug 6, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Posted that in the wrong space.
My Bad.
See? Celtics Fans do make mistakes, every once in a while.
June 2011 Cannot Come Soon Enough.
by Celtics18and19 on Aug 6, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
agian......my line
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 7, 2010 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions
In fun house mirrors Dex?
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 7, 2010 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions
My comments about on Shaq
have ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with the fact that he signed with the Celtics. NONE WHATSOEVER!
He was the most dominant center when he was with the Lakers and I am thankful that he helped the Lakers to win 3 titles in a row. However he hasn’t been a Laker for some time now and isn’t what he used to be. I mean look what how the Suns were with him and after he left.
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Shaq will go down in history as extremely dominant
but the side story will also be what could’ve been. Just like if Lebron takes the same path and just lets himself go or suffers an injury, it’ll be a what if story.
What if he was actually motivated? What if he stayed in shape? What if he didn’t coast through the season? What if he hadn’t tortured Kobe as a rookie? What if he actually did work to keep his body healthy off company time?
There are a lot of what ifs with Shaq because he could easily, if he got in shape, still dominate as a center to this day because of his size. But we always come back to the biggest part of it: If.
Plus, as I’ve said before, retiring jerseys is up to the organization. The NBA almost has no say in whose jersey is retired unless its league-wide. Shaq embarrassed himself in his last season here and for a year before that as well. He’s consistently made stabs at the Lakers organization and it players and owners. If he had grown up at any point in time while he was here or immediately after he left, I think we could have this discussion. But I think the Lakers and their owners have a sense of pride and Shaq attacked it by attempting to force them to pay him, calling them out in public, and making them seem cheap when all they have done is spend to win. I could go on for reasons why he won’t be hung up immediately after he retires like some others, but for real, Shaq was impeccable while he was here. Impeccably great and impeccably childish. Both sides must be taken into account.
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by Marty Mart on Aug 7, 2010 1:20 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Amen brother {in reverand voice}
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 7, 2010 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Celtics18and19
Hello : )
You are missing the point. You are wondering why we dont come in defense of Shaq over Rome. Imagine that PP or KG helped you win three titles and then demanded to be traded, yelled at your owner during a game asking for more money, put little effort in the off season but the moment you trade him he puts in all that effort to lose weight but only he does it with another team, then he says that this other team, and player is the best he has ever played with and you want us to have sympathy for him, why?
We appreciate what he did for the team and city but his actions after that cant be ignored. Forgiven yes but never forgotten.
"That means no more coming into camp fat and out of shape, when your team is relying on your leadership on and off the court. It also means no more blaming others for our team's failure, or blaming staff members for not overdramatizing your injuries so that you avoid blame for your lack of conditioning. " Kobe on Shaq being a leader
Yes, Jelly - I see your point.
But like Shaq stated a few days ago – his goal right now is to retire from the NBA in two years, graciously. The Boston Celtics are allowing him to do that, thankfully.
I cannot defend his actions while in LA, but in his defense with the ton of money and success that The Lakers have enjoyed over the last 20 or so years, I could not fathom how both Shaq and LA could not come to some sort of middle ground with a contract.
I can only guestimate here, because I’m not too familiar with what happened between Shaq and LA, but – at the time – wasn’t Shaq still the best Center in the game? Sure – his skills were in decline, but even with that he was still the best big out there at the time.
Why couldn’t he sit down with LA and work something out? Was it his ego? LA’s Ego? If so – that is too bad, because LA could’ve won at least two more during that stretch. Kobe, while a beast even during the Shaq years, would’ve continued to get even better, maybe helping to offset Shaq’s decline.
As a Diehard Celtics Fan, I must admit I was happy to see the discord in LA, to be honest. Anything that protects Boston’s 17 Banners, I’m all for it.
June 2011 Cannot Come Soon Enough.
by Celtics18and19 on Aug 9, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd rather he just retire gracefully.
But like Shaq stated a few days ago – his goal right now is to retire from the NBA in two years, graciously. The Boston Celtics are allowing him to do that, thankfully.
As for L.A., Shaq got what he wanted. He’s not sorry, and neither are we. End of story.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
As far as him hoisting more banners this next season it isn't happening.
And believe me he isn’t hoisting any Jersey in the Staples Center any time soon either. Maybe ever.
"That means no more coming into camp fat and out of shape, when your team is relying on your leadership on and off the court. It also means no more blaming others for our team's failure, or blaming staff members for not overdramatizing your injuries so that you avoid blame for your lack of conditioning. " Kobe on Shaq being a leader
And if that happened....
…That (not retiring Shaq’s Jersey in LA) would be The Biggest Afront to not only Shaquille O’Neal, but the NBA, IMO.
I don’t think David Stern would like that too much. Not the sign of a Classy Organization, IMO. While I think that Shaq could’ve handled his departure from you all in a different way, I think as an Organization they should rise above that stuff.
Life is Far Too Short.
But – I wouldn’t worry if I were Shaq…..by the time he’s finished in Boston, he will probably warrant US retiring his Jersey – In Green.
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by Celtics18and19 on Aug 7, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
well, the celtics do seem to try to retire every single number they can
so it’s a possibility.
3peat.
I don't think Jerry Buss, or the Buss family, really cares what David Stern would or would not like as far as their family organization goes.
In actuality, they do have more class than that, and will most likely rise above “that stuff.” But rest assured it won’t have anything to do with whether or not the NBA would be offended. They have always done, and will continue to do, what is best for the Lakers organization.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
Not the sign of a classy player or even one that deserves the honor
to get a jersey retired. It is not a rite of passage for great players to get their jersey retired, especially when they act like petulant babies throughout their career. Shaq was a beast in Orlando as well as Miami, why don’t they retire his jersey. I don’t see what makes it so relevant to the discussion to say the Lakers wouldn’t be classy if they didn’t do it, especially if no other team that he significantly helped does it either.
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by Marty Mart on Aug 7, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Now THIS post is interesting -
So Marty – you are saying that Shaquille O’Neal was not a Beast in LA? Just wanted to see if this is what you were getting at.
If this is in fact what you mean with your post, then to my memory Shaquille O’Neal did all that was asked of him in LA – and more, to the tune of LA’s first ever Three-Peat.
Any LA fan correct me if I’m wrong – but I don’t think LA has ever three-peated before Shaquille O’Neal.
Yes – it has been well-documented about how he fell lout with LA, and in another post here a few days ago I admitted that that wasn’t classy for Shaq, but at the end of the day I think an organization gets over that.
At the end of the day, all things considered – it was Shaquille O’Neal that has allowed the Lakers to have 16 titles, with 3 of them coming on his back. This is not to discredit Kobe, but Shaq was the man back then.
All things considered – even with the way that Shaq feuded with LA, his actions were not, IMO, the most classless that I’ve seen over my 30 years of watching NBA (See Lebron James’ “Decision.”)
So, from what I’ve read in both of the Shaq-related fanposts here over the last week or so – I am guessing that once Shaquille O’Neal wins a title (or two) helping The Boston Celtics, that would more than likely disqualify him from Rightfully having his Jersey retired in LA?
Am I correct in my assumption here?
June 2011 Cannot Come Soon Enough.
by Celtics18and19 on Aug 9, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Why not just read what he did say and not speculate on what he didn't?
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SoCalGal -
I see what you are saying, but in taking Marty’s words at face value it would not make sense, to me at least, to retire Shaq’s jersey in MIA or ORL.
So can a fanbase totally re-write the history books just because Shaq did not handle that situation better?
Once Shaquille O’Neal comes to LA next season – In Green – will he get booed? I don’t recall him getting booed when CLE came to LA on Christmas.
Shaquille O’Neal, IMO, was “LA”. He helped LA win Three in a Row. So, Shaquille O’Neal did what Michael Jordan did for CHI, right? Jordan helped CHI win three in a row?
This stuff doesn’t happen often. I know Kobe is trying to make his own mark, and he’s close – but I don’t see him winning three in a row, especially with Boston being this deep now.
June 2011 Cannot Come Soon Enough.
by Celtics18and19 on Aug 9, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
No one is trying to re-write history, or say that Shaq won't get his jersey retired at Staples. We remember exactly what Shaq did in L.A., good and bad.
We’re just saying we don’t give a damn about him any more. There are plenty of people who still love Shaq, as evidenced by the couple of posts on this topic in the last few days.
Marty never said Shaq wasn’t a beast in L.A., he just pointed out that he was also a beast in Orlando and Miami. It’s not inconceivable that his jersey would be retired in those arenas, except for the fact that he so totally trashed each team as he left them behind, just as he did the Lakers. So, only time will tell whether or not his jersey is retired in those two cities. It will probably be retired here and he will probably be boo’d a whole helluva lot when he comes to L.A. with Boston. There was no rivalry with Cleveland; there is with Boston.
As for Kobe, he has already made his mark, whether or not the Lakers 3peat.
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by SoCalGal on Aug 9, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
If Smush Parker signed with the Celtics you would raise his jersey
Boston in know for whoring out Jerseys and raising anyones jersey. We only do that for hall of famers not any player who feels he/she deserves it.
Btw..dont worry about what Stern and the NBA thinks about the Lakers organization. They have been making more than enogh money out of the purple and gold then they ever will from the green.
"That means no more coming into camp fat and out of shape, when your team is relying on your leadership on and off the court. It also means no more blaming others for our team's failure, or blaming staff members for not overdramatizing your injuries so that you avoid blame for your lack of conditioning. " Kobe on Shaq being a leader
The truth is, Jelly -
Is that yes, we would raise Smush’s jersey to the rafters, if he earned it. That’s what The Boston Celtics do – they are a Classy Organization. No frills, no limelight – just results.
Results that have allowed us to win 17 Banners, more than anyone else.
And if you took the time to research each and every jersey we’ve hung in our rafters, you’d know that they were some of the best players in NBA history, regardless of whether they wore Green or not.
June 2011 Cannot Come Soon Enough.
by Celtics18and19 on Aug 9, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
yes i tink so!
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 7, 2010 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions
just a reminder to celtic fans. if the lakers 3peat this season, the lakers will also have 17 banners already. i have a very strong feeling that before kobe retires, the lakers will be the winningest nba team ever!!! lets go lakers!!!
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Well....
That’s a Big “IF”, there bobc. I think that “IF” is the size of The Boston Celtics’ newly revamped frontline, which is now maybe the biggest and deepest in the league.
And if I were Laker Fans, I’d worry about OKC, DAL, SAS, POR. As for Boston? Don’t worry – we’ll find ourselves playing LA (hopefully) once agin next June, and I can hardly wait.
June 2011 Cannot Come Soon Enough.
by Celtics18and19 on Aug 9, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
well mr celtic i guess that makes the both of us that looks forward to seeing our teams face off again. i love it ! growing up in our city during the 80's you were either a laker fan or a celtic fan! lets go lakers!
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by bobc-lakersfan on Aug 9, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
And if I were Laker Fans, I’d worry about OKC, DAL, SAS, POR. As for Boston? Don’t worry – we’ll find ourselves playing LA (hopefully) once agin next June, and I can hardly wait.
btw i must say i admire your confidence/optimism with your zig.. while i agree that this coming season both our teams are favored to reach the finals, i think celtics fans have to be more worrried about the heat and orlando than laker fans have to be w/ the other western teams you mentioned during the succeeding years.
drive for 5 accomplished ! hunt for 6th ring and 2nd 3peat begins !
Shaq is a Washed up Traitor
Shaq is a punk. You don’t pack up and play for the Green Nemesis. Good for us the Celtics will be worse with him.
There was a good fanpost up called Will Work For Rings: The Story of Shaq but I think it got removed. But I found it again- http://www.tnspsportsnet.com/pro-sports/u-need-some-jesus-4/
It was some funny stuff.
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by Oaklands Finest on Aug 13, 2010 10:30 AM PDT reply actions
Interesting that you would go to the trouble of finding it and re-posting it here without knowing why it was removed in the first place.
But I totally agree with GO RAIDERS!!
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