Player Report Card: Pau Gasol
This is the next in our series of Player Report Cards, in which we evaluate and assign a grade to the performance of each member of the 2009-10 Los Angeles Lakers. Up today is Pau Gasol.
Pau Gasol has been a Laker for only two-and-a-half seasons, but in that time he's already established himself as one of the best forwards in franchise history. Consider first what the team has accomplished since the trade that brought him to Los Angeles: a regular-season winning percentage of 0.746, a playoff winning percentage of 0.687, three trips to the NBA Finals and two championships. Pau's arrival heralded no less than a new golden age in Lakerdom. Although it's impossible to say what the last few seasons would've been like without him around, we can safely assume the Lakers wouldn't have come close to scaling these same heights.
From the moment he joined the Lakers, Pau has been a near-perfect sidekick for Kobe Bryant. His skill set makes him an ideal fit for the Triangle offense. His post moves compare respectably to those of back-to-the-basket titans such as Hakeem Olajuwon and Kevin McHale. He has a smooth outside touch that makes him a threat out to 20 feet. He's a sensational passer for a big man. And he more than holds his own on the boards and has developed into a strong defender. In both of his full seasons with the Lakers, Pau has been named third-team All-NBA. In 2009, he probably should've been second- or first-team instead. Pau could retire tomorrow, and his trade to the Lakers would still go down as one of the great steals in sports history.
This past season started out slowly for Pau. In training camp he hurt his right hamstring, and then he tried coming back from it too quickly, which caused a recurrence of the injury and forced him to miss the first 11 games. In January he hurt his left hamstring, forcing him out another six games. When he was on the court, however, Pau was his usual productive self. He gave the Lakers 37 minutes a game during the regular season and 40 a night in the playoffs, holding down the fort inside amid Andrew Bynum's usual run of health problems and despite little help from frontcourt reserves not named Lamar Odom.
Pau's scoring was down a bit from 2008-09, owing to a modest drop in field-goal percentage. Whereas he shot 57% from the field in 2008-09, that number fell to a (still solid) 54% last season. Thanks to the number-crunchers at HoopData, we can see that the culprits were midrange shots: away from the rim but within 15 feet, Pau's accuracy was off 6-7% from the prior season. He made up for it in part with slight upticks in both free-throw attempts and percentage.
He also did great work on the glass. Pau collected over 11% of available offensive boards (a career high) and almost 23% of available defensive boards (the second-best rate of his career and his highest as a Laker). Rebounding was an important component of the team's success. The Lakers were pretty crap at shooting the ball and thus depended heavily on second-chance points. Conversely, on D they were among the league's best at limiting opponents' second-chance opportunities. Along with Lamar and Drew, Pau used his length and worked his ass off to make rebounding a big competitive advantage for Los Lakers.
His willowy build and cerebral bearing will prevent Pau from ever being known as a ferocious defensive stopper, but he's well above average on that end of the court. With his height and extendo arms, he swallows up undersized fours, as he did Carlos Boozer in the second round of the playoffs. He also became more of a shot-blocker this year. After swatting just one shot per 36 minutes in 2008-09, he blocked 1.7 per 36 last season with only minimal change to his foul rate. His ratio of blocked shots to personal fouls ranked eighth in the league. Of the top tier of power forwards in the game (a category in which I include Chris Bosh, Dirk Nowitzki and Amare Stoudemire), Pau is the only one who rates as a plus defender.
Gasol set off a minor controversy in February after a loss in Memphis. It was the night Kobe became the Lakers' all-time leading scorer but needed 28 field-goal attempts and 13 free-throw attempts to get there. After the game, Pau said, "Obviously we're not making a concerted effort at pounding the ball inside," which many interpreted as a demand for more shots and some read as evidence of a simmering Kobe-Pau feud. Thankfully, that never came to pass and was probably never a real possibility.
Pau was merely surfacing an issue that everyone is aware of: that the Triangle functions optimally when the inside game is a point of emphasis. Nobody who's watched Gasol over the years can reasonably think of him as selfish or shot-hungry. The guy is a deft and willing distributor out of the post. No one on the team is better at the cross-court pass that sets up an open three-pointer on the weak side. If only the Lakers had had someone who could make a three this season, Pau's assist numbers would've been substantially higher. Anyhow, that little rhubarb came and went pretty quickly and was basically forgotten by playoff time.
The following must be recognized: Pau was awesome in the postseason. In the first round against Oklahoma City, he averaged 18 points and 12 rebounds and sealed the series victory with a last-second tip-in in Game Six. In the second round against Utah, he cranked it up even more, averaging 24 and 15 and completely embarrassing Boozer. He began the Western Conference Finals by destroying Stoudemire in Games One and Two. Back in Phoenix for Games Three and Four, Pau struggled a bit on D, but in Game Five in Staples he threw up a 21-9-5 performance in a crucial Laker victory. Against the Celtics in the Finals, he straight took it to the frontline that tormented him back in 2008. For the series he averaged close to 19 points and three blocked shots a game and absolutely owned the boards. Across the seven games against Boston, he collected 46 defensive and 35 offensive rebounds. Insane.
Pau turned 30 last month. He's under contract with the Lakers for four more years, and it's reasonable to expect him to play at or close to his established peak for the length of his deal. He's not a guy who relies on superhuman athleticism, and he's not a huge dude whose knees take an unholy pounding just getting up and down the court, so if he takes care of himself and enjoys some decent luck on the health front, he'll have plenty more All-Star seasons ahead of him.
In the pantheon of Laker forwards, he's not going to catch Elgin Baylor, who played 14 seasons with the franchise and had an MVP-caliber peak that Pau can't match. Although I'd argue that Pau's performing at a higher level than James Worthy ever managed, Worthy's 12 years with the franchise mean he's probably safe in the number two slot. After that pair, however, Pau's next in line. Being the third-best Laker at any position is amazing stuff and should be good enough to see his #16 jersey hang from the Staples rafters someday.
Player Grade: I'm tempted to give an A, but I'm notching him down because of the games he missed in the regular season. Pau gets an A-.
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For games missed?
So if he had played on a bum knee, we could forget the minus? Like Bynum?
Well let me welcome everybody to the wild wild west. A state that's untouchable like Elliot Ness.
Yeah the minus seems a little bit harsh, Even Kobe missed some games with injuries.
And I would give Pau’s playoff performance an A+, so shouldn’t that average out to a solid A?
"The only difference between a good shot and a bad shot is if it goes in or not."
- Charles Barkley
Depends on how well he played
But if you miss 16 games, that has to count against you.
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by DexterFishmore on Aug 12, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
dammit Pau!
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 12, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm just sayin....
that minus is gonna mess up his GPA.
Well let me welcome everybody to the wild wild west. A state that's untouchable like Elliot Ness.
he'll never get into med school now... :(
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who knows?
he could still rock the MCAT, and his standing in on a surgery sure helps him on the extracurricular experience front.
If you wrong us, shall we not revenge? - William Shakespeare
Since you guys are talking about his games missed I thought I would post what Phil had to say about it:
Pretty funny stuff.
“I think he got injured on CSI and he’s not telling us the truth,” Jackson joked before the Lakers faced the Detroit Pistons at Staples Center. "I watched that program (Monday) night just to see if that was what it was about.
“He dragged that kid out of the car. I’m sure that’s where he got his injury. I’ve never watched that show before. I can’t believe people watch that stuff.
“I told him to keep his night job, what the heck.”
Through out the season Phil kept making sarcastic jokes about Pau’s injury implying he was soft.
"That means no more coming into camp fat and out of shape, when your team is relying on your leadership on and off the court. It also means no more blaming others for our team's failure, or blaming staff members for not overdramatizing your injuries so that you avoid blame for your lack of conditioning. " Kobe on Shaq being a leader
I think Pau's and Andrew's grades should be switched, but I love the write-up.
Hee hee @
extendo arms
Good work, Dex.
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pau is definitely at james worthy level
and with a few more seasons (and hopefully a few more rings), i think he’ll secure his #16 jersey being hung in the rafters. the guy’s already the lakers’ best PF of all time!
as for the grade… i hate to hate on you dex, and i know he missed some regular season games, and i know you don’t write every player report card so your grades don’t “match up” with the other writers, etc. etc. BUT, i’d give pau an A+ (along with kobe). or at the very least, an A. his play in the post-season was just phenomenal, and that’s how i personally grade all the lakers’ players, with the playoffs pretty much 95% of their grade. without him, you knows if we even make it out of the first round.
can’t wait for the kobe article!
3peat.
no way
pau is great but not at worthy’s peak level!
by the fantasy king on Aug 12, 2010 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions
my bad
ha ha just trying to make a point!
by the fantasy king on Aug 12, 2010 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Great report card and grade Dex
Pau is Kobe’s Pippen. He has SO much potential, and he is still “getting there.” I loved his play, I loved the way he swallowed Boozer, and I love his hustle against the Oklahoma City Thunder.
However, I did not enjoy seeing him pass up opportunities to assert himself when given the chance. I did not enjoy watching him pass up “the shot” when playing Boston at home during the regular season. Kobe was out, Pau needed to step up, and he didn’t. This came after he comments about passing to the post more often. Pau knows, and even Phil has seconded this quite often, that he needs to increase his intensity. He does not, however, need to increase the amount of time’s he falls and claims foul. I did not enjoy seeing his production numbers dip on away games, and I truly believe this comes from increased physical pressure from players such as Amare and Garnett/Perkins. Pau can surpass Laker legends with a few more chips. Pau has the ability to do so.
I love Pau, and I’m very thankful for his contribution; as I’m sure the entire Lakers team, especially Kobe, is. He is understandably very proud of “The Spaniard” as he conquered a lot of demons when he made some big shots down the stretch of that game 7 win (especially the shot that was an argued “up&down” although he was fouled, and the big rebound that went to Kobe that got Sheed fouled out.
Been waiting for Pau's report card the most
Awesome grade there.. didn’t really mind the minus since I’ve always been a “anything is better than a F” sort of guy anyway.
I still can’t forget the day the Gasol trade happened.. at that point in time I was pretty bummed about Bynum’s injury and was well resigned already to the fact that we might have to wait another year again to contend once more.
When I checked Yahoo Sports later that day, I saw the front page with the title “Spanish Treasure” (.. or at least I think that’s what it was, heh), and I literally gaped at the screen for a while. Expecting either Odom or Bynum gone for him, I read the article and saw that we actually dumped Kwame Brown for him. Kwame…. Brown. Wow. I can’t describe how happy I felt back then… it was like I came rainbows or something.
The rest after that, as they say, was history. Pau, supposedly playing through an injury he still had with the Grizzlies, played his first game for the Lakers and dumped 20+ points against some team I couldn’t even be bothered to remember, because honestly I was having a fangasm every time I saw him throw a shot up in that Laker jersey. He then continued to tear up everyone to help the Lakers to a winning streak going into the playoffs, and actually help lead us to the Finals that year, something I wasn’t really expecting to happen back then.
Truly, Pau is such a great blessing to everyone who follows the Lakers. Just like Kobe said immediately after the trade, it was just like Christmas came early for everyone. Once again, awesome grade and great review of everything he’s contributed so far. Oh, and thanks for making the report card series also :D
by Hokkun on Aug 12, 2010 10:07 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
I just remember Stephen A. Smith
He kept saying “AND you got rid of Kwame Brown. You didn’t just get Gasol, YOU GOT RID OF KWAME BROWN PEOPLE.”
Quite frankly, that’s all you need.
Well let me welcome everybody to the wild wild west. A state that's untouchable like Elliot Ness.
by pharoah on Aug 12, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah.
I remember I was actually listening to Stephen A’s ESPN Radio 1050 New York show when I first found out. He told the listeners that the Kwame Brown Era was over in LA. He was traded. Now, this was just before a commercial break, so he didn’t whom for yet. Still, it didn’t matter at that point. Hearing “Kwame Brown” and “traded” in the same sentence was music to my ears. Then when he came back on air to say it was for Pau? Holy shit. It was a great day.
Whenever people brought up Kwame’s name last summer, as a guy to come off the bench, I wanted to puke. The memories are that bad. I don’t ever want to see him in a Lakers uni again.
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agreed.
he was a nightmare along with smush
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 12, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
You know what trade I loved in the same year
Maurice Evans and Brian Cook for TREVOR ARIZA.
Oh man, I remember that day when I found out. Loved Trevor at UCLA that one year, and I thought he was awesome. Plus, WE GOT RID OF BRIAN COOK.
Well let me welcome everybody to the wild wild west. A state that's untouchable like Elliot Ness.
I've said all along
the Ariza trade was more impressive than the Gasol trade.
Getting Gasol for Kwame Brown + random pieces was definitely more lopsided, but Memphis knew exactly what they were doing. They wanted to shed salary, and the Lakers had the most salary ready to shed.
The Ariza trade, on the other hand, was done with Orlando, who was another team just like the Lakers, up and coming. Which means Orlando legitimately thought Maurice Evans and Brian Cook would help them win more than Ariza would.
Kupchak may have gotten a bit lucky with the Gasol trade, but he fleeced Orlando in the Ariza trade.
It's not just on Kupchak, it's on Kobe, Craig Hodges and the Coaching Staff for developing Ariza.
He was raw when he came here, deadly efficient when he left… then Houston happened.
Kobe Bryant's no Michael Jordan. Kobe Bryant is Kobe Bryant.
"Lebron joins teams with his friends; Kobe’s enemies join teams with him." - Gil Meriken
by Saurav A. Das on Aug 13, 2010 4:29 AM PDT up reply actions
" Fleeced "
Well i dont think so. Trevor was a journeyman buried on Orlando’s bench. He couldnt get any playing time so them trading Ariza was no great loss. People, Ariza was a scrub before the Lakers found him. I’m sorry but his fantastic postseason doesn’t wash away his overall mediocrity. As evidence the Rockets said buh-bye after 1 year to bring in someone cheaper with a similar skill set.
It's a "fleecing" in a sense
because the Lakers saw the potential he had, and were unable to load two players who didn’t and couldn’t help the Lakers as much as Ariza ending up doing. The Lakers saw Ariza’s talent, even if mediocre, while the Magic gave him no chance. As it turned out, neither Mo Evans, nor Brian Cook helped the Magic out much.
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I think you mean the Lakers were able to unload two players...
were unable to load two players
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Yeah yeah yeah.
You know what I meant. You stay on my typos. I really need to proofread before pressing post. Or send them to you for approval. Haha.
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It's a "fleecing" in a sense
because the Lakers saw the potential he had, and were able to load two players who didn’t and couldn’t help the Lakers as much as Ariza ending up doing. The Lakers saw Ariza’s talent, even if mediocre, while the Magic gave him no chance. As it turned out, neither Mo Evans, nor Brian Cook helped the Magic out much.
HAPPY NOW, Auntie DeDe?
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LOL! Um, dude, you made the same boo boo.
were able to load two players
Write it on the board 100 times:
“Able to unload two players”
“Able to unload two players”
“Able to unload two players”
“Able to unload two players”
And it’s Auntie Dee Dee.
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Oh, you know I only pick on you because you're a good sport.
I never tease people I don’t like.
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damn that smarts!
See my grammatical errors are so frequent and shit….nobody cares to point em out or they will be at it all day
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 13, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
haha
I do have a ACOG scope on there but what everyone is seeing is just a Surefire TAC light on the side of my M4.
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 13, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL ur welcome!
i think alot of ppl are just ignorant (not a bad word ppl) to military things. Just google ACOG or TAC light…..you’ll see.
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 13, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
lol im not sayin YOU
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 13, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
lol!
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 13, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
you could stick an eggplant on that thing and I'd still be intimidated
"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec
"This isn't an apocalypse. It’s a motherf***ing war." -Hdg23
LOL!
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I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 13, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
You should host FutureWeapons.
I didn’t know it replaced some M9 pistols. Isn’t that the standard pistol for the U.S military?
Sweet 16
Sort of
As far as Soldiers not needing them as much, because the M4 is alot shorter than the M16
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 13, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
yessir!
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 13, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL...never
is that ur name….
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 13, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
OH i will sorry ass Falcons
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on Aug 13, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you currently deployed?
If so Sarge, glad to have you chime in and stay safe out there!
it's still a deadly gun
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Yes
This is by far the truest statement you can make but sadly it is the case
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 14, 2010 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions
The Lakers got rid of two players who didn't contribute much
including one that was a borderline cancer, and got back a player who played a pivotal role in a championship run, and might have made the difference in another if he didn’t break his foot.
And that’s not fleecing?
Just because Houston wasn’t happy with what Ariza provided them (because they asked him to do things that he shoudln’t be doing, like be the primary scorer) doesn’t mean that Ariza is overpaid and not that good.
People, Ariza was a scrub before the Lakers found him
How exactly do you think most one-sided trades work? Pau Gasol for Kwame Brown is the rarity, but most trades that you look back on and say one side clearly got the better end of the deal, most of those trades both sides walk away from thinking they got what they needed. Seeing the potential in somebody and bringing it out is an important part to “winning” most trades.
defanately good points CA
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 13, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
it ended well but...
At the time of the trade, it was 2 scrubs for another. Sure TA had potential but so do half the scrubs in the league.
No doubt it was a great trade looking back, but when it happened it wasn’t like any of us were partying in the streets.
The Gasol trade did have that effect and I disagree about TA trade being more “impressive”.
The great thing about the Gasol trade was that it flew under the radar. There were no rumors, nobody expected it.
It left all GM’s cursing at Chris Wallace. Many teams had salary to dump and could’ve provide better talent.
It was pure genius and luck that Mitch pulled this off.
Wow.. rewatching that video also made me remember a few things
I noticed how Smith mentioned how the Lakers initially went after Jermaine O’Neal as well before doing the Gasol deal… with Odom and Bynum as the central pieces for that. Really makes you think how lucky we are in how the cards fall our way a lot.
Really.
Just think, we could have Jermaine O’Neal, and no Odom OR Gasol. Ugh. Not even close.
"You know, I mean we have all this amazing technology and yet computers have turned into basically four figure wank machines. The internet was supposed to set us free, democratize us, but all it's really given us is Howard Dean's aborted candidacy and 24 hour a day access to kiddie porn. People... they don't write anymore, they blog. Instead of talking, they text, no punctuation, no grammar: LOL this and LMFAO that. You know, it just seems to me it's just a bunch of stupid people pseudo-communicating with a bunch of other stupid people at a proto-language that resembles more what cavemen used to speak than the King's English." — Hank Moody, Californication
You can probably thank Indiana
for giving O’Neal an insanely bad contract for the Lakers not pulling the trigger. From what I remember that was the main issue as I think he was making more money than Kobe at the time, crazy.
I'm ready for the Autumn Wind to blow strong once again.
I know, right?
Thinking of where Jermaine and Pau are both at right now speaking basketball career-wise…. I don’t even want to think about what could have alternatively happened.
Dude.
Think of it this way.
Comparing where we are now to where we would be had the Lakers pulled the trigger on JO is the equivalent of trading Pau and Odom for Jermaine O’Neal.
Umm, NO.
"You know, I mean we have all this amazing technology and yet computers have turned into basically four figure wank machines. The internet was supposed to set us free, democratize us, but all it's really given us is Howard Dean's aborted candidacy and 24 hour a day access to kiddie porn. People... they don't write anymore, they blog. Instead of talking, they text, no punctuation, no grammar: LOL this and LMFAO that. You know, it just seems to me it's just a bunch of stupid people pseudo-communicating with a bunch of other stupid people at a proto-language that resembles more what cavemen used to speak than the King's English." — Hank Moody, Californication
I just threw up in my mouth a little.
Well let me welcome everybody to the wild wild west. A state that's untouchable like Elliot Ness.
Erm, yeah.... I'm pretty sure we both agree that we would NOT have wanted that to happen.
That’s the point I was trying to make initially, on how lucky we are that DIDN’T happen.
I might be misunderstanding something with what it is you’re trying to get across, or I might have been confusing with how I phrased stuff with my initial statement regarding this matter, so forgive me in advance if either one of those is the case.
But yeah, I can pretty much assure you that JO for Pau and Odom is something I definitely wouldn’t do as well ^^b
Oh no, I know we're saying the same thing.
It just occurred to me that if you put it in terms of making that trade, today, it becomes even more emphatic.
"You know, I mean we have all this amazing technology and yet computers have turned into basically four figure wank machines. The internet was supposed to set us free, democratize us, but all it's really given us is Howard Dean's aborted candidacy and 24 hour a day access to kiddie porn. People... they don't write anymore, they blog. Instead of talking, they text, no punctuation, no grammar: LOL this and LMFAO that. You know, it just seems to me it's just a bunch of stupid people pseudo-communicating with a bunch of other stupid people at a proto-language that resembles more what cavemen used to speak than the King's English." — Hank Moody, Californication
KWA--MAY BROWN!
this man was a bonified scrub! lol
"our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius
"It was like I came rainbows or something."
Am I really the only one who saw this?
Oh man, I’m laughing SO hard right now!
"You know, I mean we have all this amazing technology and yet computers have turned into basically four figure wank machines. The internet was supposed to set us free, democratize us, but all it's really given us is Howard Dean's aborted candidacy and 24 hour a day access to kiddie porn. People... they don't write anymore, they blog. Instead of talking, they text, no punctuation, no grammar: LOL this and LMFAO that. You know, it just seems to me it's just a bunch of stupid people pseudo-communicating with a bunch of other stupid people at a proto-language that resembles more what cavemen used to speak than the King's English." — Hank Moody, Californication
Fangasm!
Holy crap! You’re killing me!
"You know, I mean we have all this amazing technology and yet computers have turned into basically four figure wank machines. The internet was supposed to set us free, democratize us, but all it's really given us is Howard Dean's aborted candidacy and 24 hour a day access to kiddie porn. People... they don't write anymore, they blog. Instead of talking, they text, no punctuation, no grammar: LOL this and LMFAO that. You know, it just seems to me it's just a bunch of stupid people pseudo-communicating with a bunch of other stupid people at a proto-language that resembles more what cavemen used to speak than the King's English." — Hank Moody, Californication
brrrrr
nasty
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haha!
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 12, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
LMAO
yeah i cracked up too, it was pretty unexpected
by wickedskillz on Aug 14, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Rec'd for the word 'fangasm'
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by Saurav A. Das on Aug 13, 2010 4:26 AM PDT up reply actions
nice
thank for sharing that experience.
that was a wonderful day indeed.
when people say it was the worst trade ever (laker haters obviously)..
I do mention that marc gasol was a nice pickup. I liked him even when we had him on our roster. He showed some potential and he did blossom into a fine young player.
get off me bandwagoners!
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by cleancutmedia on Aug 13, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
solid A for me
I think we can attribute his dip in scoring to Bynum’s health. Bynum was relatively healthy the entire season and that moved Pau to the elbow. He’s still effective there but it meant he’s taking more jumpers.
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Ditto
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 12, 2010 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I would go with an A also, but I understand about the injuries.
He was key to our victories, and his toughness down low, his rebounding, and especially his clutch plays in the 4th quarter of game 7 really make the A grade for me.
Great write up.
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It's always AMMO Time, in spirit- DexterFishmore
A- is a solid grade for Pau. IMO, if the lakers didn't have him vs the jazz and okc, well then, the suns would be representing the west in the finals.
Pau gasol against the suns did more damage than help imo. Everytime the ball went to him, he would miss, granted amar’e was too far off.. In Game 7, He came in handy, and from that game alone, I think Pau is deserving of an A— or possibly a solid A
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Ugh...
This again…?
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Probably would've given an A+, but that's nitpicking. Pau Gasol was awesome this season.
Should be even better this season Blake handling the rock for the second unit.
Dex, "Notching him down" for missed games isn't fair
‘cos it wasn’t his fault. I’d give him an A+
Kobe:I got one MORE THAN Shaq. You can take that to the bank.
Pau Gasol is awesome...
I mean, he was playing well enough in the playoffs that at one point early on, he was getting support around here as our playoffs MVP! Obviously Kobe was the playoffs MVP, but for Pau to even be in the conversation with Kobe, that’s pretty awesome.
I still think back on the trade that brought him here and laugh. All my basketball fan friends up here in the Bay Area are still pissed about it (“the only reason you guys won the last two years is because you stole Pau.” …um, yeah, so?). Awesome!
Hopefully by the time his contract is up, he’ll have a few more rings to add to his resume. Him and Kobe playing together, should both stay healthy, should continue to be a dominant pairing for the next few years.
A- is fine, I get the injuries argument. I probably would have given him an A, but it’s not my show! Good write up!
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by ZeroIndulgence on Aug 12, 2010 10:54 AM PDT reply actions
Great write up DEX!! im REC'ing it....not for his A+ grade though....lol
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Clearly this is leading
to Kobe getting an A+++++
due to injuries
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 12, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Funny Dex, I just noticed that you used a pic of the Gasol brothers.
They look like Siamese twins in that photo.
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dammit! Agian you took my post
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 12, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Two points I'd like to make:
1. Pau is an okay freethrow shooter but he seems to miss the clutch ones.
2. Until Pau wins a finals MVP I don’t think he can catch James Worthy.
In the end, Pau gets an A for that last second tip in vs OKC and for taking it right at Kevin Garnett’s barking ass this past season
There's a decent-sized gap between Gasol and Worthy
True, Worthy was amazing in the ‘87-’88 Finals, but that doesn’t make him a better player than Gasol.
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he was better! love pau but not on worhty’s level
by the fantasy king on Aug 12, 2010 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you have some kind of secret, handy-dandy virtual toolbox of nifty photos?
One for every occasion imaginable, under the sun?
And did you get it from Dex? Or he from you?
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Blue...you RULE for this!!
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 12, 2010 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions

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by deadmuse on Aug 13, 2010 1:25 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
if i could REC it agian i would!
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 13, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
oh come on
Bynum gets an A and he missed games too, and Gasol who obviously is more important to LA gets an A-? if missing games is the criteria then Kobe should get an A- too and that makes Bynum the best performer in LA… think about that one more time…Bynum?
I wouldn't get too hung up on the exact grades we're giving out
As we’ve explained many, many times over the course of this series, it’s different people doing the grading for different players, and we all have our own curves. It’s really not that big a deal. The analysis and in-depth evaluation are more important than the exact letter we tack on at the end.
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by DexterFishmore on Aug 12, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
lol maybe hit the gym
and finally be able to bench 135
Crap... I'd better go to the gym quick
Can’t have Pau beating me now!
by JustRuntheOffense on Aug 12, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Please tell me you're talking Kilos....
I can bench 135lbs, and I’m 5’11" and 15 without any regular training.
If Pau actually can’t bench 135…. :S
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by Saurav A. Das on Aug 13, 2010 4:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm sure he can
Thats only the bar and two plates. No way, he doesn’t lift that. Kevin Durant on the other hand. lol
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lol obviously i meant lbs
if you look at his arms lol i doubt he would be able to bench the 45’s…
Dude, he'd bench at least 200.
Even KD can max 180 now, unlike his rookie season.
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by Saurav A. Das on Aug 14, 2010 5:08 AM PDT up reply actions
the analysis part was really good
and yea you are right, when different people grade they have different things in mind
And while we're at it
I have to confess that Bynum’s straight A had more to do with literary license than where I actually rated him. An A- for effort really doesn’t flow.
Personally, I think the downgrade for Pau’s injury time wasn’t deserved, but like Dex said, we each have our own way of looking at things, and fresh view points are never a bad thing.
Potential-wise, I think Bynum made a great step forward this season
He showed that he could be a hard, physical defender and that he could play through pain when necessary. These were things that were shown in glimpses the past few seasons, but never when it really counted. To have them on the court during the playoffs and the finals alone merits Bynum an A i think.
Pau had a great season, but to say that this season was phenomenally better than what he is capable of is hard to say. I think on a grading curve, Pau and Kobe are obviously on a different level being the superstars they are. A- seems about right to me. Honestly I’m not sure Kobe deserved an A this season either, though with the injuries he’s sustained he’s probably the hardest to rate out of everyone…
by JustRuntheOffense on Aug 12, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Kobe before the injuries = A-motherfucking-superplus.
Leading the League in scoring, shooting over 50%FG, best post player in the League, etc… Fucking injuries.
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by Saurav A. Das on Aug 13, 2010 4:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I know, like, Ammo's grade and what not was way out of line.
For me its the consistent inconsistency that concerns me - PAGFL
It's always AMMO Time, in spirit- DexterFishmore
that's true
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A++ from me..
…absolutely love the guy. The perfect player; I’ve never seen anything like him, save for Tim Duncan, and Pau’s game is more fun to watch. I think you need a special personality and thought process to gel with a guy like Kobe, and these guys are artists when they are playing the two man game. Belissimo!!!!!
by The Phil Jackson 5 on Aug 12, 2010 2:38 PM PDT reply actions
I love you Pau Gasol.
And I love the Lakers. Everyone gets an A in my book. Even AMMO, homeboy had some sick ties going during the playoffs.
by lakersbluedevil on Aug 12, 2010 4:04 PM PDT reply actions
Those were pretty bad too. Thank god for Maria.
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At least put a bucket under your chin so no one slips when they walk by.
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OH MY GOD!
This is hilarious! I really am laughing out loud!
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Dex got ya homie! REC
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 12, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Grade needs to be an A, maybe even an A+
Gasol totally took 2008 personally and just improved every weak point of his game. Look at Game 1 of the finals…his first shot at the man who bullied him two years before. Gasol just dominated Garnett in that game. Yeah he did let Garnett back into the series in Games 4 and 5, but Game 7 was as much his will to win as any other factor. For being labelled a soft and cerebral player, he was as physical as any one could be in that game. Just look at the bloodied scratches on his arms and shoulders. I was just impressed how much a complete player can grow even more.
As far as the trade to steal him away…I don’t believe it’s as one sided as everyone says. Gasol was unhappy playing for Memphis, it wasn’t going to be long before his numbers/trade value went down or he bolted in free agency. Memphis had to move him while they could still get value. Value…you ask? Everyone mentions Kwame, but don’t forget that Memphis got Crittenton, Marc Gasol, and two first rounders. (Donte Green and Dominique Jones. Green traded for Darrell Arthur and Jones traded for cap relief). So for a team that was planning on rebuilding…the fact that they got Kwame’s expiring contract was a gift as well.
Look at Memphis now…they’re not playoff contenders yet, but they have a more solid core and talent-wise aren’t the bottom of the NBA either. Yeah, the trade still favored the Lakers because they got ready made talent rather than potential, but Marc Gasol is shaping up to be a real strong player.
Grade regression...
Um… Typical “teacher’s remorse” in exam marking.
It is a general phenomenum where teachers give the best grades to the students in the middle of the marking process, then becomes more stringent towards end to “make up” for the earlier “generosity”.
Such process is also observed widely during off-season of NBA in player recruitment.
So, Kobe is getting a B+, I guess?
Seriously,
he doesn’t deserve more than a high C+, so a B- is generous. You’re too kind.
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I'm an easy grader.
As long as you do your work, you’ll get a good grade from me. But if he PER was higher than I would have given him a B, but we all know how important made up efficiency is.
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Well, as long as you're fair, I'm good.
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I'd give you A+.
I see your “Rough Cuts” have become the unofficial recurring fanpost series. You getting royalties on that?
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by bluexfalcon on Aug 12, 2010 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
oh shit!! Blue u crack me the fuck up!!
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 12, 2010 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
try again good sir
lol
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Actually, they're Blue's idea, but mine were just better than his.
Ha!
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I saw that.
LOL. Mine ended up being a bunch of side convos in the comments.
Sweet 16
by bluexfalcon on Aug 12, 2010 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
The line is blurry sometimes.
:p
Sweet 16
by bluexfalcon on Aug 12, 2010 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
the honor of being rough cut's founder can never be taken away from you (and I salute you for that)
but we would love to see you top the rough cuts we did :)
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I can think of some topics.
- How cookies are made.
- Star Wars mythology.
- 2010 Video Game Releases for Fall
- Get to know your SS&R Neighbor
- Subaru <3
- A “holding” thread for our pictures.
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by bluexfalcon on Aug 13, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
nice...
and with josh probably doing one, RC keeps getting better.
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kobe bryant=batman
I love the second one (SW nut) and the 4th
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 13, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Get to it, bub. It's about time you did another one.
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Haha. I'll be making one no doubt. Maybe the Saturday or Sunday edition.
I wonder if they have cookies in Star Wars? Maybe only outside the Galactic Empire. LOL
Sweet 16
by bluexfalcon on Aug 13, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
lol
Leia had a cookie….whoops
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 13, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Subaru
is kinda random to me. Is that like an inside joke or something? Must’ve missed it.
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Like this:
No.
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I second that motion
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I hate you all.
I’ll be over →
if you need me.
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by bluexfalcon on Aug 14, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
lol
ok. Just making sure.
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You'd get an A+ as well.
I literally think you read everything that is posted on this site, down to every comment. Every. Single. One. I swear you reply to comments faster than they are typed sometimes.
This is a good thing.
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hahaha me too....when i am at said computer!
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 12, 2010 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Me too, even if it's a topic that doesn't interest me, like the gaming RC. Just not my thing, but I read them all.
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They have rehab facilities for people like y'all.
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I simply reject this attempt at intervention. You can't make me go.
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Heaven help us all if I go that route!
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
yes yes me as well..........if there is 1 new comment....
in a paticular thread i must scroll to find it! Even if it is some spiritual stuff about CS Lewis or something that makes me wanna get drunk to understand the conversation….lol
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 13, 2010 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions
ouch
lol
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kobe bryant=batman
ha!
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 13, 2010 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn't have to grade Kobe.
If I did, he gets an A+ from me, AND I’m going to name the damn school after him.
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who's the one making kobe's report card?
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kobe bryant=batman
The Chief.
Kobe Bryant's no Michael Jordan. Kobe Bryant is Kobe Bryant.
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by Saurav A. Das on Aug 14, 2010 5:10 AM PDT up reply actions
I think A- is just fair.
You can’t give the A+ to the guy who didn’t get the MVP.
And it just hit me while looking at the pic… lakers gave away the rights to marc gasol to get pau.. haha oopps.
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u cant compare the 2
pau being 7 foot his rebounding was better then worthy, but to say he is playing at a higher level then worhty ever did is foolish! he wasn’t called big games james for nothing! you need to go back and watch worthy’s playoff performances!pau is nowhere near worthy’s level!
by the fantasy king on Aug 12, 2010 7:10 PM PDT reply actions
1988 Finals
Magic Johnson
Game 1: 28 points, 10 assists, 8 rebounds, 2 steals, 0 blocks, 1 turnovers, 8-11 FG, 2-2 3P, 10-10 FT
Game 2: 23 points, 11 assists, 7 rebounds, 2 steals, 0 blocks, 3 turnovers, 7-12 FG, 0-0 3P, 9-9 FT
Game 3: 18 points, 14 assists, 6 rebounds, 3 steals, 0 blocks, 3 turnovers, 7-8 FG, 0-0 3P, 4-5 FT
Game 4: 23 points, 6 assists, 4 rebounds, 1 steals, 0 blocks, 2 turnovers, 7-13 FG, 0-2 3P, 9-11 FT
Game 5: 15 points, 17 assists, 6 rebounds, 2 steals, 1 blocks, 4 turnovers, 4-15 FG, 0-0 3P, 7-11 FT
Game 6: 22 points, 19 assists, 4 rebounds, 2 steals, 0 blocks, 2 turnovers, 5-12 FG, 0-1 3P, 12-13 FT
Game 7: 19 points, 14 assists, 5 rebounds, 2 steals, 0 blocks, 4 turnovers, 6-9 FG, 0-1 3P, 7-8 FT
Average: 21.1 ppg, 13.0 apg, 5.7 rpg, 2.0 spg, 0.1 bpg, 2.7 tpg, 44-80 FG (55%), 2-6 3P (33%), 58-67 (87%)
James Worthy
Game 1: 19 points, 3 assists, 3 rebounds, 1 steals, 0 blocks, 1 turnovers, 7-18 FG, 0-1 3P, 5-5 FT
Game 2: 26 points, 6 assists, 10 rebounds, 2 steals, 1 blocks, 0 turnovers, 10-19 FG, 0-0 3P, 6-11 FT
Game 3: 24 points, 3 assists, 9 rebounds, 1 steals, 2 blocks, 2 turnovers, 8-20 FG, 0-0 3P, 8-8 FT
Game 4: 7 points, 1 assists, 1 rebounds, 0 steals, 0 blocks, 1 turnovers, 3-9 FG, 0-1 3P, 1-2 FT
Game 5: 14 points, 4 assists, 4 rebounds, 0 steals, 1 blocks, 2 turnovers, 4-10 FG, 0-0 3P, 6-7 FT
Game 6: 28 points, 4 assists, 9 rebounds, 1 steals, 0 blocks, 5 turnovers, 12-22 FG, 0-0 3P, 4-6 FT
Game 7: 36 points, 10 assists, 16 rebounds, 2 steals, 0 blocks, 5 turnovers, 15-22 FG, 0-0 3P, 6-10 FT
Average: 22.0 ppg, 4.4 apg, 7.4 rpg, 1.0 spg, 2.3 tpg, 59-120 (49%), 0-2 3P (0%), 36-49 FT (74%)
/stats orgy
one of the major things placed against pau is that worthy has a finals MVP. but, if you look at the numbers, you can see that worthy’s overall performance was not THAT much better than magic’s. i know his game 7 triple-double really swayed everyone to vote for him, but i could argue that magic never had a “bad game” in those finals, while worthy’s game 4 was just turrible.
we’re not saying pau is playing at a level worthy never played at, but many people argued (albeit most were kobe haters) that pau should have gotten, or was most deserving, of the finals MVP. he hit a game winner to send us to the 2nd round, he tore the jazz’s front court up, and although he sorta regressed in the later parts of the suns series, he was pretty much impeccable against boston (excluding game 5). i think that’s about as good as a second banana can get.
also, i definitely think he’s worthy of getting his jersey retired. get it? get it? …anyone?
3peat.
its a damn shame I never got to see either of them play
smh
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
i thought gasol was the most consistent laker last season. an A.
"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."
AH_HA! a funny!
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by Sarge Clemins on Aug 13, 2010 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions
I would have given him at least an A.
Maybe even an A+. :O
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A for Gasol
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