Snooty Harvard Kid Could Be a Laker Soon
Back in your grandpa's day, it wasn't that unusual for the Lakers to have an Ivy Leaguer on the floor. In 1959, the team drafted Rudy LaRusso out of Dartmouth in the second round. An efficient big-man scorer, Rudy was a steal, making 582 appearances and three All-Star Games with the purple and gold. In 1970, the Lakers drafted Jim McMillan out of Columbia, and he played on the 1972 championship squad. And in 1974, the team traded for Corky Calhoun, who'd actually been the fourth overall pick in the draft two years earlier. Ol' Corky was a huge bustola, and since the Lakers waived him in 1976, no Ivy Leaguer has appeared on the roster.
For those who honked their SAT maths, that makes it almost 35 years of vile discrimination against teh smart kids. Soon, however, the glass ceiling could be rebroken. Pick up that stack of books I just knocked out of your arms, Dave McMenamin:
A new name has emerged as a candidate to fill a spot on the Los Angeles Lakers' bench as a backup to starting guards Derek Fisher and Kobe Bryant. Jeremy Lin, an undrafted 6-3, 200 pound combo guard from Harvard, is being considered by the Lakers after the team opened discussions with Roger Montgomery, Lin's agent, over the weekend. "We're just trying to sort out the best roster fit, the best situation for Jeremy, but we're highly considering the Lakers," Montgomery said in a phone interview Monday.
Finally. It's about time a Harvard grad catches a break in this country.
Lin was twice a consensus All-Ivy first teamer, and scouts like his deceptive athleticism, his effectiveness in transition and his scoring efficiency, despite lacking anything like a classic jumpshot stroke. The knocks are that he doesn't have a true position - NBADraft.net suggests he has the game of a really, really undersized small forward - he's turnover prone, and he spent his college career in a low-caliber conference. The latter criticism has faded somewhat after he showed up strong in the Las Vegas Summer league last week.
Our sister site Ridiculous Upside was duly impressed with how Lin acquitted himself in Vegas. They especially liked how well be battled first overall pick John Wall on Thursday.
Lin was fantastic in this game; by the end, the crowd who had come to watch John Wall was cheering for him just as much, if not more. He didn't shoot the best to start out, but he finished with 13 points on 12 shots, so okay overall, along with four rebounds. He also played fantastic defense. He did get called for six fouls, but he played tight, smothering D on both Wall and Cartier Martin. He also showed off his quick first step and creative finishes at the rim on multiple occasions. Lin has really made a good case for himself this week.
McMenamin reports that the Mavericks and an unnamed Eastern Conference team are in the mix for Lin. If signed by the Lakers, he'd be a deep reserve, at best a fifth guard. But hey, someone's gotta be the 12th guy, and better Lin than Adam Morrison.
In conclusion, Revenge of the Nerds was a pretty good movie.
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Next Sun yue?
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
Jeremy Lin is pretty good
He’s able to create his own shot, has a pretty high IQ (duh), and can knock down set shots. And he’s a big guard, and phil loves his guards like he loves rings….big.
Well let me welcome everybody to the wild wild west. A state that's untouchable like Elliot Ness.
rotfl
legally blonde picture at the top.
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
The expert has a keen eye...
They say if you can't beat them, join them. By joining them, LeBron just admitted he can't beat them.
lmao
Finally. It’s about time a Harvard grad catches a break in this country.
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
Why can't they just stick to banks and politics, they have to take over basketball, too?
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
Hey, hey, we Ivy Leaguers are getting shut out of the first two a lot
Have to end up somewhere. :p
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
seriously
the things we do to try and keep the idiots from running things.
Aybar is a nowhere man, Sitting in his Nowhere Land, Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.
by princeton11loveshalos on Jul 19, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Ben, Ivy Leaguer?
Which school?
Before Kobe won the title, the line we would all hear was 'Kobe isn't as good as LeBron'. This is far from new. Laker and Kobe fans have heard it before. The names change, the premise remains the same. At different times in history, Tracy McGrady was considered to be better than Kobe. Allen Iverson was once considered his equal. Even the likes of Vince Carter, Grant Hill and Jerry Stackhouse were given the 'next Jordan' title.
Kobe has beaten all comers. They have retreated into the shadows as pretenders, whilst Kobe outlasted them all to stand alone in the League today, with his 5 rings and innumerable accolades.
Now? All the haters have left to say is ’Kobe’s no Jordan.’
You know what? They’re right. He’s not Michael Jordan. He’s Kobe Bean Bryant. And I wouldn’t have it any other way.
by Saurav A. Das on Jul 20, 2010 2:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Princeton
with me
Aybar is a nowhere man, Sitting in his Nowhere Land, Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.
by princeton11loveshalos on Jul 20, 2010 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Nice.
Hoping to go to Harvard, myself. Still a few years off, though.
Kobe Bryant's no Michael Jordan. Kobe Bryant is Kobe Bryant.
by Saurav A. Das on Jul 21, 2010 4:34 AM PDT up reply actions
OVERRATED
but thats just my opinion
Aybar is a nowhere man, Sitting in his Nowhere Land, Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.
by princeton11loveshalos on Jul 22, 2010 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions
The fact you're Princeton doesn't have anything to do with that? =P
Haha, the name helps, though. But I may be driven off simply by it being located in Massachusetts, and try for Colombia or Stanford over it.
Kobe Bryant's no Michael Jordan. Kobe Bryant is Kobe Bryant.
by Saurav A. Das on Jul 23, 2010 2:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Revenge of the Nerds was funny
especially the drunken tricycle scene
by rickfox on Jul 19, 2010 3:35 PM PDT reply actions
what the???
dude thats dated august 2003!!!
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
Hmmm
I could be wrong Dex, but it seems like you’ve got some kind of theme going here.
I'm a diehard Cavs fan, proud to say I never owned a LeBron jersey.
you mis-spelled...........
bonehead.
Kidding, kidding.
Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."
I dont think so
Lin might see Adam Morrison minutes on this roster, though he is a much better backup than AMMO should we need him.
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
since everybody around here loves LeBron so much, here is Dwyer's opinion on the move:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba;ylt=AjgLNxZ3r2.mZP3w4T.5aTZrYZ4
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
HQ, we have a confirmed apologist/historical revisionist on the move...
Today's sports media excels at over-reaction to a single event and specializes in hyperboles. But hey, it's that or my biochem textbook...
by Mike1204 on Jul 19, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
you dont mean me right??
I completely disagree with him.
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
Are you people serious?
What Dwyer wrote in his post was entirely, 100% correct. I couldn’t agree with him more.
The problem is just that it’s not relevant to the discussion at hand.
Here’s what KD is saying. He’s saying, what’s wrong with LeBron not having the same priorities as Jordan and Kobe, Magic and Bird. Those guys wanted to be the best, and they wanted to beat the best. But who says LeBron has to want that? Maybe his priority is to make billions. Or maybe it’s to win lots and lots of rings, even if his victories aren’t considered as dominant as those of Kobe and MJ. What, exactly, would be wrong with that?
At the end of the day, this is his life and his job. He has a right to do what makes him happy — as does everyone. If what makes Shaq happy, for example, is not working as hard as Kobe, then good for him! He’s found what it takes to be fulfilled. If what makes LeBron happy is going to Miami to play with his friends, then good for him!
Now, back to my point. I completely agree with this entire line of reasoning — but it’s not very relevant to the present discussion. At least, not the one 95% of the internet is having. Because LeBron has every right to go play with his friends, to play with the best instead of against them — but it does mean that he becomes a different kind of player than Jordan and Kobe. Shaq has every right to put in whatever degree of work and effort he sees fit for his own life — but again, it does mean that he’s not in MJ’s or Kobe’s category. And both had the potential to be in that category, in terms of their raw talent. But with the decisions they’ve made with their careers, they chose not to pursue that.
See, the two lines of reasoning basically agree. We’re saying, well, he can’t be as great as MJ now, because to be the greatest player is to be the greatest competitor. KD is saying, well, you’re right, he’s taking a different path — and if that’s what he wants, good for him!
Seriously, what is your problem with this? And how is Dwyer wrong? Can you explain why, exactly, it is inherently better to beat the best than to play beside them? Isn’t it much more likely that both are admirable and fulfilling goals, equally rewarding, and different players may find one or the other more appealing?
Your response, in reading Dwyer’s piece, should be that LeBron’s decision to join and All-Star team means he’ll never be like Jordan or Kobe — but, in agreement with Dwyer, that if that’s what you want, then there’s nothing wrong with that.
They say if you can't beat them, join them. By joining them, LeBron just admitted he can't beat them.
Come on, Josh, are you new here?
Since when does anyone here agree with what Dwyer has to say?
And before anyone says anything, I know he’s not new here, so save it.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
Haha
Yeah, I know. I disagree with Dwyer some too (though I agree with him more), and I am certainly annoyed by his Adande-esque insistence on always qualifying anything Kobe does well with some reminder of something he’s done poorly, either in the present or the past.
But the knee-jerk reaction to write off everything the guy writes, to completely dismiss his perspective, as though he were Bill Simmons or TJ Simers is, in my opinion, even worse. The guy is one of the best NBA commentators out there; an educated and intellectually honest and responsible person ought to be able to accept the vast amount of truly great material he writes, while at the same time recognizing the specific issues he is wrong on — rather than simply writing him off altogether.
They say if you can't beat them, join them. By joining them, LeBron just admitted he can't beat them.
I think it's mostly personal biases against
Dwyer, LeBron, and Shaq. But if being an asshole makes LeBron happy, would it be wrong to hate him for being an asshole, even though it makes him happy?
"I wanted to do what was best for LeBron James, and what LeBron James is going to do to make him happy."- Lebron James
No, but there's a key distinction here.
There is the basketball decision he made (that is, the decision to play in Miami), and there is the way he went about making and announcing that decision. What makes him an asshole is the latter, and by all means, hate him for it. He disgusts me, for those reasons. Doing what makes you happy is NOT a good enough reason to be an asshole, act like you own the world, hold the league hostage, demand special treatment that even Michael Jordan never expected, and finally, brutally dump your home team on national TV.
But Dwyer wasn’t referring to that, at all. He was talking about LeBron’s basketball decision to play with Wade and Bosh on a SuperTeam. This is where doing what makes you happy — or, to be more specific, making the career decision that makes you happier/is more fulfilling — is completely valid. You can’t hate him for having his own priorities with regards to how he approaches his career.
Small caveat: You can hate him for acting like the man, portraying himself as the man, for the last 7 years, and then going and making a decision that completely flies in the face of all of that, and his entire attitude. You can hate him for acting like he owns the league while at the same time not having the balls to actually go out and do just that, on his own — own the league.
But you can’t hate him just because he wants to play with his friends instead of beating them.
They say if you can't beat them, join them. By joining them, LeBron just admitted he can't beat them.
by Josh Tucker on Jul 19, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, you can...
but you’d be wrong. And an idiot. And almost assuredly a hypocrite.
They say if you can't beat them, join them. By joining them, LeBron just admitted he can't beat them.
by Josh Tucker on Jul 19, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Definitely
I doubt many people here hate LeBron because he wants to have fun with his friends. I think a lot of people hate the basketball decision because 1. It makes Miami potentially really good, which is a threat to the Lakers. 2. At least in my view, I am disappointed with the decision, mostly because LeBron is very talented and with Miami it’s doubtful he will ever reach his potential. 3. His decision reeks of taking the “easy way out” which KD acknowledges, which may or may not be true. 5. Lastly, some people won’t separate the basketball decision from the way it was delivered.
And of course, people hate him for the reasons you said.
"I wanted to do what was best for LeBron James, and what LeBron James is going to do to make him happy."- Lebron James
by c.lobster on Jul 19, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
well the difference
is simple. If Lebron actually wants to do what he is doing because he enjoys playing with his friends, etc., then that’s all good and dandy. However, if Lebron is making this decision out of FEAR and COWARDICE then that’s what’s wrong with it. See, i think Lebron ditched Cleveland and went to Miami because he thinks he can win rings in Miami while he doesn’t think he can win them in Cleveland, or rather because he doesn’t want to take the chance that he may fail to win.
The team in Cleveland was definitely good enough to win a ring. They had the best record in the NBA for 2 years running which proves they were good enough. Lebron left because he didn’t want to risk being the worst bust in NBA history. He left because he was too scared to take the risk of never winning.
His move is out of cowardice, which is definitely wrong.
Bull. Shit.
See, i think Lebron ditched Cleveland and went to Miami because he thinks he can win rings in Miami while he doesn’t think he can win them in Cleveland, or rather because he doesn’t want to take the chance that he may fail to win.
Very possibly. Likely, even, if you ask me. But again, there is nothing inherently wrong with this. There are lots of things that you and I do, in our professional and personal lives, in which we calculate risk and determine some things worth it, and others not. Some are more comfortable with risk than others. Neither approach is inherently wrong. LeBron appears to value an approach that is significantly more likely to net him multiple championships, at the expense of the perceived value of each of those championships. Kobe and MJ, on the other hand, are clearly the types to prefer not just winning, but doing so as the one and only leader of their team, and while playing against, rather than with, the best players in the league… at the risk of not winning any at all (fortunately for both, they overcame that risk). But again, how can you say that one perspective is inherently better than the other? If LeBron cares enough about simply experiencing championship victory that he’s willing to give up being the man, the on that leads his team to that victory, then who’s to say that’s wrong?
The team in Cleveland was definitely good enough to win a ring. They had the best record in the NBA for 2 years running which proves they were good enough. Lebron left because he didn’t want to risk being the worst bust in NBA history. He left because he was too scared to take the risk of never winning.
Agree. But again, I don’t see what’s wrong with that. You say fear, I say realism. Whether or not he’ll ever publicly admit it, he came to terms with the fact that he can’t do it as the leader of his team, and so he adjusted his values and expectations and decided that he would prefer to win with the help of a SuperTeam rather than take a shot at leading his own team to victory and never actually get there. Again, that’s not wrong; it’s just someone who has different values and priorities than guys like Kobe and MJ.
His move is out of cowardice, which is definitely wrong.
Can’t agree. Like I said above, you say cowardice, I say calculated risk. LeBron simply doesn’t value the reward enough to take such a huge risk. Guys like Kobe and MJ do. It’s just different basketball worldviews.
They say if you can't beat them, join them. By joining them, LeBron just admitted he can't beat them.
by Josh Tucker on Jul 19, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
hmm...
I only have a couple thing to say in regards to your argument that I think you may fail to realize about Mr. James…
If LeBron cares enough about simply experiencing championship victory that he’s willing to give up being the man, the on that leads his team to that victory, then who’s to say that’s wrong?
Lebron will NEVER admit to not being “the man.” He refers to himself in third person, as “The King,” as “King James,” etc…For Christ sakes, he even has “Chozen One” tatted across his back. Now, if this seems like a humble individual, willing to take the back seat to anybody to you, then maybe I’m confused with the “brand” that Mr. James is trying to convey. He talks as if he’s the second coming of Jesus Christ himself for goodness sakes.
Also:
Whether or not he’ll ever publicly admit it, he came to terms with the fact that he can’t do it as the leader of his team, and so he adjusted his values and expectations and decided that he would prefer to win with the help of a SuperTeam rather than take a shot at leading his own team to victory and never actually get there.
You have to try and put yourself in the self-proclaimed “King’s” shoes for a minute. Do you really think that somebody with Lebron’s ego is going into this next season not thinking he is still top dog? His head is pumped so big that he thinks ANYBODY in the league is going to still be second fiddle, or roll players, to his greatness. That is why he “took his talents to South Beach.” It is simple. Lebron is the definition of a front runner. He has realized that he isn’t as great as he claims he is and is trying to mask his past failures with the potential “successes” that he may have handed to him in the future (if this “super team” doesn’t implode first). I simply do not see this working. Is this a GREAT roster on paper? Absolutely. But raw talent only takes you so far. This is not the Olympics (where people constantly use this small sample size to try and argue this team’s greatness). The true question will be answered in due time. However, with this many egos on the same team, I highly doubt this “super team” will stay in tact more than two seasons.
LOL, I couldn't find that picture.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
It would have taken me a week to go through them all.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
No one is blasting him for that part of his statement
I’m blasting him for revising the history to say that Jordan did the same thing when he said that he recruited Rodman to the Bulls and then said that Larry Bird wouldn’t have traded in his team for the Bulls. He’s right in that regard, that yeah Larry Bird wouldn’t have traded in his team that grew around him to go to the Bulls, but to say that thats the same thing as Lebron’s decision is wrong. No one is killing him for the decision but the how and the only thing people are saying about the decision is that no one who wants to be the best in basketball joins the next best basketball player to beat everyone else. That is not how you prove you are the best. He never addresses that, but instead talks around it by saying that others enjoyed playing with better basketball players than when their team was at their worst. Which is true. Jordan wouldn’t trade the 90s Bulls for the 80s Bulls, but he surely wouldn’t leave the 90s Bulls to join the late 90s Rockets to play with the rest of the All-Stars either. Thats why I said revisionist. His position has been argued over and over again, and its a proper side to take, but I don’t agree with him throwing others histories into it because none of the examples he mentioned mirrored this situation at all. The Bulls were low seeds every year and the Cavs had much better talent around Lebron no matter what you think of them, which Dwyer always underrates anyway. Jordan, Bird, Magic wouldn’t leave a 60-win team to join each other to be a 70-win team when they can still compete highly against each other and thats what everyone is saying. Everyone wants better talent, but none of them would’ve teamed with each other when they wanted to beat the other guy. I don’t like that he tries to make these Cavs into the 80s Bulls because they are not that bad of a team and contrary to popular belief they are not the worst starting 5 or even bench in the NBA and they aren’t pulled up only by Lebron’s play. Thats why I disagreed with his piece. Not the idea of Lebron playing with these guys, but that he’s revising history to say that others would’ve done the same based on the teams of the 80s Bulls and last years Cavs being equal and thats just not true.
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Jevon O
Actually they aren’t pulled up by Lebron’s play
For some reason every one of his teammates when they went to Cleveland had their #‘s go down. His style of play just wasn’t very condusive to improving those around him. Larry Hughes and Mo Williams had their #‘s go down the most, drawing unjust criticism. Why were they good before in different systems? Some of it did have to do with Mike Brown because they should’ve been running more with Hughes. He flourished in that type of system in Golden State and Philly. Should’ve fired Brown after 2009 and hired Byron Scott then.
ANY type of semi-competent player
aka one that can create for themselves and others, will wither under LeBron, due to his balll-dominance. Only hustle guys like Varejao/Hickson and pure shooters benefit from LeBron’s presence. Jamison last season with the Wizards was a 20/10 guy, went to the Cavs and became mediocre. All in one season.
Kobe Bryant's no Michael Jordan. Kobe Bryant is Kobe Bryant.
by Saurav A. Das on Jul 21, 2010 4:36 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah there's a bunch of sorrys in that article
I’d read it again to locate all of them, but that’d just make me hurl even more. so I’m just going to quote on of the commenter on his article.
There sure is a lot of apologizing in this article:
-“I’m sorry, but I’m not going to kill LeBron for this.”
-“And that’s, I’m sorry … fun.”
-“But to rip on the guy for wanting a chance at, I’m sorry, being part of the greatest basketball team…”
-“I’m sorry, but this is a basketball high nonpareil…”
he’s quite the literal one.
"Love me or hate me; it's one or the other. Always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fade-away, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Bryant
oh how many times have I read him write about how LeBron deserves more respect and props than Kobe because he had Pau/Shaq. How many times he knocked Kobe for having “better teammates”. bottom line is, if Kobe made the decision Lebron made his article would look very very different.
"Love me or hate me; it's one or the other. Always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fade-away, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Bryant
lol
I laughed at Dwyer’s piece. Because he in essence ignored the fact that while no one in the 80s would’ve joined the Bulls in Jordan’s place, he’s revisionist if he thinks that the Cavs of the past two years have been anywhere near as bad as those teams. lol. I can’t take him seriously sometimes.
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Jevon O
Dwyer's at least consistent...
He very consistent with his system of thinking high PER = good playing.
or just very self-fulfilling
"Love me or hate me; it's one or the other. Always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fade-away, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Bryant
He's self-fulfilling to the greatest extent
an uber confident writer, that gets it wrong on some things. I have my points of contention with the piece but of course he is correct that whatever Lebron wants to do is fine.
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Jevon O
Hate to say it
But I can’t find a counter-argument for Dwyer. For once he actually makes sense. Lebron just did what was best for him and winning, it was a good move. In my opinion people just hate him for the broken promises and not trying to be the greatest to ever play the game.
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
hence
the references to Star Wars Episode III when Obi-Won says “You were the chosen one, blah blah, save us from darkness, not bring it” or something like that.
"I wanted to do what was best for LeBron James, and what LeBron James is going to do to make him happy."- Lebron James
most of the bullets fired at Lebron right now
has always been fired back then, except now we have legitimate proof. we’re just pretty much rubbing it on the faces of Lebron fanboys, you know, the “I told you sos”. The article is pretty much her last desperate attempt to save face, and try to convince his readers that what he wrote before would still be valid, even after this debacle.
"Love me or hate me; it's one or the other. Always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fade-away, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Bryant
*pretty much *his* last
fixed that for ya.
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Jevon O
nope
"Love me or hate me; it's one or the other. Always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fade-away, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Bryant
NNNNEEEEERRRRRDDDDDSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!
I don’t have a problem saying, ‘Your franchise player sucks.’ - Ron Artest
overrated
he is from my area in the bay. i saw him play at Palo Alto high school. kid has obviously got some skills, but he wasnt THAT good. I seriously saw more from Adam Morrison in Gonzaga than this kid. But, like you said, someone needs to be 12th guy. But what about Ebanks and Caracter?
Kobe: "Listen, if you told me at the beginning of the year that we’ve got two games at home to win a championship, yeah, I’ll take that shit"
um Ebanks and Caracter are probably are 9 and 10 guys
Lin would be pretty good to add as a 12th man
Aybar is a nowhere man, Sitting in his Nowhere Land, Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.
by princeton11loveshalos on Jul 19, 2010 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Umm
He looks so much more mobile than Morrison did at Gonzaga, meaning he can translate his skill better to the NBA. Meaning his ability to cut, his shooting stroke, and his athleticism on the break are good to have versus the very basic shooting that Morrison offers.
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Jevon O
where in the bay? I went to gunn
Stu Lantz – For not being Hot Rod Hundley. Grade: A Motherfucking Superplus +.
well
i went to Lynbrook high School and i remember playing against him in a tournament. I had to the daunting task of guarding him and he obviously killed me. But we was just ok, and i’m not just saying that bc he destroyed me. Like i really didnt see anything special about him. But hey, i could be wrong. it would be cool to see a guy i played against make the NBA and even cooler if he made it on my favorite team.
Kobe: "Listen, if you told me at the beginning of the year that we’ve got two games at home to win a championship, yeah, I’ll take that shit"
i'm sure you did
Adam Morrison at Gonzaga was one of the top 2 players in all of college basketball. So you probably didn’t see too many people outplaying Ammo in COLLEGE.
yeah
cus your evaluation just skipped out on 4 yrs of his DIV 1 basketball progress.
"Tell him to get his degree, and we can talk."
IVY LEAGUE REPRESENT
I’ve seen the kid play and he’s pretty good. Can shoot well. I saw him play Princeton and he scored about 28. Harvard still lost but he is their star player. I would love to see Lin play.
Aybar is a nowhere man, Sitting in his Nowhere Land, Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.
by princeton11loveshalos on Jul 19, 2010 5:25 PM PDT reply actions
Just imagine: Ebanks, Caracter, Lin
Two second rounders and an undrafted, a straight-up heist, I say.
If you wrong us, shall we not revenge? - William Shakespeare
intended or just funny?

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This shameful display of selfishness and betrayal by one of our very own has shifted our "motivation" to previously unknown and previously never experienced levels.
by Czheck on Jul 19, 2010 5:49 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Holy shit, it's Fernando the Bull.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
i thought its ferdinand the bull :D
"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess."
- Kobe Bryant
by crushmybones on Jul 19, 2010 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I think you're right, Ferdinand instead of Fernando.
He just needs a ring through his nose.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
Larry Hughes is still available, much better scorer than Barnes, willing to slash to
the basket, admirable D when his head’s into the game.
by rickfox on Jul 19, 2010 6:21 PM PDT reply actions
wtf
WTF. did he spell accepted wrong? or am I the retarded one? oh and w.e. at least it’s not boston or heat.
that means he is probably getting Hedo Turkoglu money
AKA getting overpaid.
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
But not in a "short bus" kind of way.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
Uhh, Larry Hughes?

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by DexterFishmore on Jul 19, 2010 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I figured somebody would respond like that, for very little minutes, he can be productive,
70% of offense comes from pick n’ roll, spot up, isolations, while D, isn’t what it used to be, he takes chances, I’ll admit that, though, he does stay firm in front of his man and, much more capable of hitting a hot streak [along with his colds], than Barnes, and with Steve Blake running the point, a lot of Hughes offense would be corner spot up’s, pick ‘n’ roll’s with Odom or another big.
For the rest of the MLE, you could do worse, there’s not much out there, Rasual Butler [unaffordable], Antoine Wright, and a few others, that’s it.
by rickfox on Jul 19, 2010 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions
He's gotten better at shooting threes
And is still a halfway decent defender, but he still chucks up shots with abandon and that’s a serious problem in the triangle. Perhaps Kobe puts the fear of God in him or Phil works some psychology, but it’s honestly not worth the effort.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
No thanks. Injury prone.
I would rather have Ime Udoka.
Lakers need outside shooting in a bad way: Ime Udoka, has no outside to speak of
For the rest of the MLE, I take a shot at Hughes more than Udoka
by rickfox on Jul 19, 2010 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions
sigh
to think he was a starter on our team that made the finals…
I'm a diehard Cavs fan, proud to say I never owned a LeBron jersey.
Wave, Barnes would be a liability, for the money Toronto paying for him, they have a
Defense that needs him a lot more than Cleveland. Even with Barnes, Toronto could be the last place team in terms of defensive efficiency.
by rickfox on Jul 19, 2010 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Hughes when signed
was playing well. If he hadn’t been injured he could’ve contributed more. Either way, he still played relatively well in the playoffs for you guys. A lot of guys overachieved on that team to get you to the Finals that year. Everyone had to come back down to their normals at some point, and Lebron just sunk even further below average.
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Jevon O
*Lebron sunk even further below *his* average.
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Jevon O
barnes just agreed to play for the raptors
twitter says so
If you wrong us, shall we not revenge? - William Shakespeare
But I posted then like in 3 secs you posted
At least thats what it showed
It's Kobe's world, but Lebron's just living in it. -- Czheck
whatever
not like he signed with the lakeshow. inconsequential!
If you wrong us, shall we not revenge? - William Shakespeare
I hope Jeremy Lin signs with the Lakers.
He would be a good developmental point guard and would able to learn from two solid veterans such as Fisher and Blake.
I love this guy
One of my best friends is at Harvard and she says everyone worships him….well the whole entire Asian American community in general. Did I mention how much I miss Sun Yue?? Too damn much. This great Laker team needs another Asian dude lol.
they can sure use some help in the bullpen
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
I bet Matt Kemp can still kick Sasha's ass on the court too
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by angelofdeath on Jul 19, 2010 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions
looks like the cat is trying to hold back its vomit
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
I like this

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by angelofdeath on Jul 19, 2010 7:29 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Bulls trade 2nd round pick for C.J. Watson, damn Bulls have a sweet bench!!!!
by rickfox on Jul 19, 2010 7:30 PM PDT reply actions
Wow
Still not sure if the bulls will be that great though…
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
the bulls are looking pretty good these days
they might be a new contender in the East with Boston fading quickly.
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
top Eastern Conference teams
Here’s how I’d rank them on paper. Orlando will probably have the best record, but this is how I see them as post-season threats.
1. Chicago
2. Orlando
3. Miami
4. Boston
"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec
"This isn't an apocalypse. It’s a motherf***ing war." -Hdg23
I'm not totally against this kid
I’d rather see the Lakers go after a third string center though, rather than a 5th or 6th guard. I realize that somebody needs to be the 12th guy. But do they really need half their roster to be guards? Fisher, Bryant, Blake, Sasha are all signed, and it looks like Shannon Brown will be resigned as well. The Lakers don’t need 6 guards.
If they want to give him a shot, fine. Go ahead. Or maybe if they are looking to trade Sasha they could look at this kid. But with the way the team is currently set up, I don’t think he’d be the best option they could go to to fill out the end of the roster.
And also, Morrison was a much better cheerleader and had a great mustache that I doubt Lin would ever be able to sport. lol
"I'm looking at 600 as first base. I want to run right through it and use it as a platform and a spring board for more to come"- Alex Rodriguez
this is wayyy off topic....
but I wonder if our USA team could win the gold…..if Spain gets it then I hope Pau doesn’t feel left out.
Who's playing for the US?
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by angelofdeath on Jul 19, 2010 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions
nobody on 08'
rondo, rudy gay, odom, aldridge, billups, tyson chandler, tyreke evams, eric gordan, danny granger. jeff green, andre iguodala, al jefferson, david lee, brook lopex, robin lopez, kevin love, Oj mayo, rose, g wallave, westbrook,
not finalized, but these are the names considered this summer
Wait, who am I kidding?
No Mamba… This team ain’t doing shit in Turkey…
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by angelofdeath on Jul 19, 2010 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah...
Team USA always has the talent to win, but very crappy leadership
That’s why they started to win with Kobe in there.
Billlups is a pretty good leader
Before Kobe won the title, the line we would all hear was 'Kobe isn't as good as LeBron'. This is far from new. Laker and Kobe fans have heard it before. The names change, the premise remains the same. At different times in history, Tracy McGrady was considered to be better than Kobe. Allen Iverson was once considered his equal. Even the likes of Vince Carter, Grant Hill and Jerry Stackhouse were given the 'next Jordan' title.
Kobe has beaten all comers. They have retreated into the shadows as pretenders, whilst Kobe outlasted them all to stand alone in the League today, with his 5 rings and innumerable accolades.
Now? All the haters have left to say is ’Kobe’s no Jordan.’
You know what? They’re right. He’s not Michael Jordan. He’s Kobe Bean Bryant. And I wouldn’t have it any other way.
by Saurav A. Das on Jul 20, 2010 2:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Last year was a rough year
for him as a leader. He made a couple decisions that were just like wow, terrible.
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Jevon O
Hmm?
I wasn’t paying much attention to Denver last year, do explain?
Kobe Bryant's no Michael Jordan. Kobe Bryant is Kobe Bryant.
by Saurav A. Das on Jul 21, 2010 4:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Well
there was a game where it was close at the end and Billups got the rebound ignored the coach went down and chucked up a three even though there wasn’t enough time for him to do that and they still get another chance afterward. He was getting slammed by the Stiffs for ignoring the coach’s plea for a timeout and then proceeding to put up a terrible three as time ran out.
He had some other instances during the season where he kept chucking threes even though he was hitting at a rate only marginally better than Fish. lol
Umm, yeah just a lot of instances of him ignoring coaches and doing what he wanted and things not turning out right. It was mostly during the times when they were injured, but he had some bad decisions at the end of the year and in the playoffs as well.
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Joshua S.
And now they have virtually no bigs.
Kobe Bryant's no Michael Jordan. Kobe Bryant is Kobe Bryant.
by Saurav A. Das on Jul 21, 2010 4:38 AM PDT up reply actions
He did not accept the request to play for USA
This team is fail.. I mean Tyson Chandler, seriously? The dude is not even an all star….

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It's Kobe's world, but Lebron's just living in it. -- Czheck
Chandler is a great big for FIBA play
He’s very mobile, can check the pick-and-roll, a near necessity for bigs in the international game, and has the sheer size to offer help on the weak side and play good post defense. And naturally, as we all saw in New Orleans, he’s a fantastic roll man on the pick-and-roll, another staple of international play. Given all the point guards who can run the pick-and-roll — Billups, Curry, Rose, Westbrook — trying out for the team, it’s a useful asset to have.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Uh, what standards are you basing this on?
If the roster turns into something like the following, they’re the clear favorites:
PG: Billups/Rose/Curry
SG: Iguodala/Mayo
SF: Durant/Granger/Gay
PF: Stoudemire/Odom/Love
C: Lopez/Chandler
That’s hell of a team. Every position is positively stacked with talent, there’s a lot of versatility in terms of players who can play multiple positions, and nearly every type of player imaginable is represented — shooters, slashers, a ton of effective pick-and-roll players, and solid defenders at every spot. If they gel well with one another (can’t see why; not a whole lot of big egos or headcases with this bunch), they’ll steamroll most teams at Worlds.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
by Ben R on Jul 19, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
PR will kick that team's ass. haha, jk
The PuertoRican Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Jul 19, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
PR will kick that team’s ass. haha, jk
The PuertoRican Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Jul 19, 2010 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
It's my duty
to approve that….Go Puerto Rico!!!
"El Hombre es esclavo de lo que dice y Amo de lo que calla"
by Jonny 4 F1ng3rs on Jul 20, 2010 6:34 AM PDT up reply actions
It's a pretty darn good roster
Lack on outside shooters though aside from Curry and Durant (who is sort of a shooter)
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by angelofdeath on Jul 19, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Granger, Mayo, Billups, Love, and Gordon would like a word with you
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Meh
Granger, Mayo, Billups are more volume scorers… And I didn’t see Gordon on your prospective roster…
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by angelofdeath on Jul 19, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Billups was shooting near 40% from three at one point, if I'm not mistaken.
And remember, FIBA three = NBA long two.
Virtually everyone on that roster except Lopez, Love, Chandler and Rose can hit that.
Come to think of it, a shooting big man might be a good idea.. but who is there? Okur, Nowitzki, Bargnani etc… all foreign.
Before Kobe won the title, the line we would all hear was 'Kobe isn't as good as LeBron'. This is far from new. Laker and Kobe fans have heard it before. The names change, the premise remains the same. At different times in history, Tracy McGrady was considered to be better than Kobe. Allen Iverson was once considered his equal. Even the likes of Vince Carter, Grant Hill and Jerry Stackhouse were given the 'next Jordan' title.
Kobe has beaten all comers. They have retreated into the shadows as pretenders, whilst Kobe outlasted them all to stand alone in the League today, with his 5 rings and innumerable accolades.
Now? All the haters have left to say is ’Kobe’s no Jordan.’
You know what? They’re right. He’s not Michael Jordan. He’s Kobe Bean Bryant. And I wouldn’t have it any other way.
by Saurav A. Das on Jul 20, 2010 2:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Rose has improved his stroke pretty dramatically
He can hit long twos pretty consistenly, and per his work on his three-pointer this summer, I would fully expect him to hit the FIBA three at a decent rate. For Love, he was such a good midrange shooter in college, I’d imagine he’d hit the FIBA three as well, especially when he gets more open looks than the ones he got in Minnesota.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
True, true.
So the team has shooters… but recent reports indicate they have virtually no size. Hmmm….
Then again, in Beijing their only bigs were Dwight and Bosh.
Kobe Bryant's no Michael Jordan. Kobe Bryant is Kobe Bryant.
by Saurav A. Das on Jul 21, 2010 4:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Brook and Robin Lopez?
ROFL
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
Would this guy be the first asian-american with an NBA contract?
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Yao Ming and Yi Jianlian want to be acknowledged
It's Kobe's world, but Lebron's just living in it. -- Czheck
Asian-American
Not pure Asian
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by angelofdeath on Jul 19, 2010 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions
At the very least
it’ll be the first Asian American from an Ivy league – lol
yeah I meant asian
born and raised in the United States
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Raymond Townsend I think (Fil-Am)
Played for the Warriors in the 80’s
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by angelofdeath on Jul 19, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
ah interesting
i think philipino’s technically aren’t asian-american though, correct?
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Meh
Philippines is still part of the Asian continent…
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by angelofdeath on Jul 19, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
we need an inventory of Filipinos in this site.
and BTW we are asian.
Notice how Thais, Malaysians, Indonesians, look a like.
and hey we are a former US colony. we should have been the 51st state. just my opinion.
Now you know -- Manny Pacquaio
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no
some guy in 1947 played on some team that had a namne.
"I wanted to do what was best for LeBron James, and what LeBron James is going to do to make him happy."- Lebron James
Wataru Misaka
Is the name you’re looking for… Played for the Knicks in 47-48…
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by angelofdeath on Jul 19, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Because we went to Harvard :)
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by angelofdeath on Jul 19, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Niiiccceee. What degree?
Before Kobe won the title, the line we would all hear was 'Kobe isn't as good as LeBron'. This is far from new. Laker and Kobe fans have heard it before. The names change, the premise remains the same. At different times in history, Tracy McGrady was considered to be better than Kobe. Allen Iverson was once considered his equal. Even the likes of Vince Carter, Grant Hill and Jerry Stackhouse were given the 'next Jordan' title.
Kobe has beaten all comers. They have retreated into the shadows as pretenders, whilst Kobe outlasted them all to stand alone in the League today, with his 5 rings and innumerable accolades.
Now? All the haters have left to say is ’Kobe’s no Jordan.’
You know what? They’re right. He’s not Michael Jordan. He’s Kobe Bean Bryant. And I wouldn’t have it any other way.
by Saurav A. Das on Jul 20, 2010 3:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Bachelor of Science on Useless Info
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by angelofdeath on Jul 20, 2010 4:10 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Haha.
I’m hoping to go there after I graduate HS. Need a damn high IB score to get in, though.
Kobe Bryant's no Michael Jordan. Kobe Bryant is Kobe Bryant.
by Saurav A. Das on Jul 21, 2010 4:40 AM PDT up reply actions
so according to ESPNLA
he’d be the third american born asian to play in the nba
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/waltere01.html
and
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/misakwa01.html
came before
still pretty darn significant
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Wow
I guess Filipinos really aren’t Asians after all… I’m so confused right now… :)
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by angelofdeath on Jul 19, 2010 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions
the word "asian"
has come to mean something more specific than just coming from the asian continent. Indians and Eastern Russians, for example, are never referred to as asians.
It’s been a little while since I filled out an ethnicity form, but I think filipino/pacific islander has it’s own category at least in California.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
ive always been confused about the term
theyve always bundled Indians and Russians with them but they seem so out of place.
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
Oh no
Indians NEVER call themselves Asian. They’re “brown” lol. I believe Saurav is a brown name so you can ask him to clarify on if they ever refer to themselves as Asians.
It's a little different than that...
They call themselves South Asian. India/Pakistan/Bangladesh/Maldives/Sri Lanka/Nepal. More from some extended definitions.
You’ll find many “South Asian” restaurants in the San Francisco East Bay that serve foods from both India and Pakistan (Pakistani food is a bit like Indian in my experience, but generally spicier with more of a meat focus).
Many Indians like to take their caste system with them here, particularly those from the top caste, the Brahmin.
Not to be confused with SE Asian (Vietnam, Laos, Myanmar, Thailand, Malaysia, Cambodia, Indonesia and nearby islands such as East Timor).
by USA!USA!USA! on Jul 20, 2010 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions
oops, forgot...
The Philipines in SE Asia. D’oh!
by USA!USA!USA! on Jul 20, 2010 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions

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by smart_guy on Jul 20, 2010 1:12 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Nope.
The term most times is ‘curry’, actually. Indians and Sri Lankans..
And the more immature refer to themselves as ‘black’.
Before Kobe won the title, the line we would all hear was 'Kobe isn't as good as LeBron'. This is far from new. Laker and Kobe fans have heard it before. The names change, the premise remains the same. At different times in history, Tracy McGrady was considered to be better than Kobe. Allen Iverson was once considered his equal. Even the likes of Vince Carter, Grant Hill and Jerry Stackhouse were given the 'next Jordan' title.
Kobe has beaten all comers. They have retreated into the shadows as pretenders, whilst Kobe outlasted them all to stand alone in the League today, with his 5 rings and innumerable accolades.
Now? All the haters have left to say is ’Kobe’s no Jordan.’
You know what? They’re right. He’s not Michael Jordan. He’s Kobe Bean Bryant. And I wouldn’t have it any other way.
by Saurav A. Das on Jul 20, 2010 3:02 AM PDT up reply actions
I should have half a mind to sue my geography teacher right now
I haz an identity crisis…
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by angelofdeath on Jul 19, 2010 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions
meh...
…most filipino’s I grew up with would identify themselves as traditional asians as well. Even when I made this comment originally I had in mind all the filipino kids that ball me up on a regular basis. It’s just a technicality :).
Though it is interesting. Society lumps up the “asian” term based more on how someone looks rather than where they come from exactly.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
I consider Filipinos Asians as well
They’re not Oriental Asians, but still Asians. I wouldn’t really consider Rex Walters as Asian American. He’s a halfie, and they don’t really call themselves Asian Americans. The Filipino dude that ESPN failed to mention is more Asian American than him. And technically, you don’t have to be born in America to be Asian American
I think being a halfie is why it's Asian American
If he wasn’t a halfie, then it’d be just plain Asian… Or American…
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by angelofdeath on Jul 19, 2010 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions
erm, I define Asian American
as person of Asian ethnicity raised in America. I know a couple of mixed people, and they don’t refer to themselves as Asian American. Around where I live, Asian Americans and halfies are different terms. Maybe it’s somehow different in California or something lol
Okay
Now my head hurts…
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by angelofdeath on Jul 19, 2010 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm mixed
if someone asks me, I say Asian. On a form, sometimes Asian or sometimes White, whatever strikes my fancy at the time lol. Full asians born here, I call “Asian Americans”. Full asians, that weren’t born here but live here, Asians. Halfies are mixed.
"I wanted to do what was best for LeBron James, and what LeBron James is going to do to make him happy."- Lebron James
huh, really?
That’s cool. The ones I know just say they’re mixed white and asian, never one or the other. Although honestly, the halfies in my city might as well be Asians (American, sorry I have the habit of leaving that out) cuz that’s who they hang out with lol.
Well actually
now that I think about it, I say “half-asian”, they assume the other part.
"I wanted to do what was best for LeBron James, and what LeBron James is going to do to make him happy."- Lebron James
We, Filipinos, considered ourselves as Asians
since we are in Southeast Asia. I do not know why Basketball Reference did not include Raymond Townsend from their list. Perhaps, Ray wasn’t born in America. He’s a Bruin btw.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Townsend#cite_note-Pilipino-0
Anyway, just a trivia
Miami Heat coach Erik Spoelstra is Asian-American (Half Filipino-Half American).
asian americans FTW!
"I wanted to do what was best for LeBron James, and what LeBron James is going to do to make him happy."- Lebron James
I would endorse this signing,
even though he went to our cross town rival highschool…
Stu Lantz – For not being Hot Rod Hundley. Grade: A Motherfucking Superplus +.
Wait NVM you went to Gunn High
lol scrolled up
It's Kobe's world, but Lebron's just living in it. -- Czheck
Im new here and I read some comments and I can already tell the level of basketball IQ
on this site is really high. I apologize if this has been talked about but what does anyone think of the new rumors of the Lakers going after Lin?
Welcome
And thanks for saying we’re smart (sort of)… I like the Lakers going after Lin… And no, it’s not because I’m Asian…
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by angelofdeath on Jul 19, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
thnx.. : )
putting all ethnicity aside and based on the Summer league games he seemed really impressive. He used the pic n roll offense to his advantage really well. Everyone was cheering for him also which was really cool.
Welcome!
And nice name…. I honestly cannot see Lin in the rotation, probably the taco unit. He’s pretty much a Sun-Yue (dare i say AMMO?) player. The guy can play though, so we’ll see.
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
Wait a minute...Kobe Bean Bryant
Is that it?
I'm a diehard Cavs fan, proud to say I never owned a LeBron jersey.
Yes
His dad is Joe “Jelly Bean” Bryant…
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by angelofdeath on Jul 19, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Lol Wave
You’ve been here for so long you should’ve caught on quickly :P
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
Yeah, but I don't know THAT much about the Lakers!
I'm a diehard Cavs fan, proud to say I never owned a LeBron jersey.
Deep inside
You’re a true Lakers fan
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
Oh no....
Not again
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
Sigh...
She likes to speak French. Don’t ask.
I'm a diehard Cavs fan, proud to say I never owned a LeBron jersey.
my question is
is she speaking Franco-French or Quebecois-French? Hmm, then there’s Cote D’Ivoire. Plus parts of Belgium, plus… agh nevermind!
"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec
"This isn't an apocalypse. It’s a motherf***ing war." -Hdg23
thnx....
you might be right. anyone who could help the lakers will be a great asset. lets hope they get a decent back up center.
we need ONE center
if we’re lucky.
Hi, I’m a Cavs fan. :(
I'm a diehard Cavs fan, proud to say I never owned a LeBron jersey.
hey..nice to meet you.
well I will be rooting for your team for sure. weird to see a Cavs fan on a Lakers blog.
I know, right?
See, I’ve been here since before LeBron left…back when the Lakers and the Cavs were (record-wise) the best teams in the NBA. I thought it would make for some excellent jousting…but a Finals matchup never happened.
I'm a diehard Cavs fan, proud to say I never owned a LeBron jersey.
wow..
great to see someone being a fan of the team rather than any other individual player. good for you.
Wave, tell the truth
You have been here much longer than that…..
It's Kobe's world, but Lebron's just living in it. -- Czheck
Ah, but "before LeBron left" could be as long as you wish to interpret
That’s the beauty of it.
I'm a diehard Cavs fan, proud to say I never owned a LeBron jersey.
you make it sound like calendars in Cleveland are being changed to
B.L. and A.L. (Before LeBron and After LeBron)
"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec
"This isn't an apocalypse. It’s a motherf***ing war." -Hdg23
by deadmuse on Jul 20, 2010 1:49 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
oh yeah...
Why did big Z leave? When they traded him mid-season and his contract was bought out, I was reading everywhere how much he loved Cleveland as his new adopted home. It really surprised me to see him follow whatshisname.
"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec
"This isn't an apocalypse. It’s a motherf***ing war." -Hdg23
Ah, Corky Calhoun
The only reason I know that name is because I was reading a page on ESPN page 2 about the worst draft picks ever.
17. LaRue Martin, Portland Trail Blazers (No. 1, 1972)
Maybe things weren’t as sophisticated back then. No videotape. No 86 college games a week on television. No ESPN.com draft rankings to steer a team in the right direction. But Martin, a 6-11 center from Loyola of Chicago, remains the most colossal No. 1 flop in NBA draft history, lasting just four seasons with a career 5.3 scoring average.
Then again, maybe it was just the worst draft ever: other top-10 selections included Dwight Davis, Corky Calhoun, Freddie Boyd, Russ Lee, Bud Stallworth, Tom Riker and Bob Nash. Haven’t heard of any of them? There’s a reason. Only Bob McAdoo (2nd) and Paul Westphal (10th) of the first 10 picks did anything in the NBA.
I'm a diehard Cavs fan, proud to say I never owned a LeBron jersey.
Oh yeah
77. Kwame Brown, Washington Wizards (No. 1, 2001)
Brown might yet turn into a productive player — he’s only 24 — but not in Washington. The Wizards passed on Pau Gasol, Jason Richardson, Joe Johnson, Richard Jefferson, Troy Murphy and Tony Parker.
I think this article was written back in 2004.
I'm a diehard Cavs fan, proud to say I never owned a LeBron jersey.
I still think Kwame can be a productive player!
he has a better chance of being 24 again.
"I wanted to do what was best for LeBron James, and what LeBron James is going to do to make him happy."- Lebron James
Yeah, now we know the answer to that speculation
I'm a diehard Cavs fan, proud to say I never owned a LeBron jersey.
Wow that's a terrible draft
Worse than that horrible 2001 draft…
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by angelofdeath on Jul 19, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Well,
Dr. J was drafted that year…but the writer didn’t mention it…
I'm a diehard Cavs fan, proud to say I never owned a LeBron jersey.
That Top 10 is beyond awful though...
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by angelofdeath on Jul 19, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL Wiki
Biggest draft busts in NBA history… LOLrue Martin…
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by angelofdeath on Jul 19, 2010 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Oops
My bad
Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves
by angelofdeath on Jul 19, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Have you been meaning to change that?
I'm a diehard Cavs fan, proud to say I never owned a LeBron jersey.
I'm the most uninteresting person in the world, why would you look? Unlike this guy...

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by angelofdeath on Jul 19, 2010 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions
NO! leave it. that is hilarious
somehow that reminds me of the Joker from the last Batman. Dont know why.
I just reread the fail post
http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2010/7/6/1555562/will-the-free-agents-all-get
“GARENETT” and “KOBY”, and “WILT CHAMBARLIN” crack me up every time
It's Kobe's world, but Lebron's just living in it. -- Czheck
by smart_guy on Jul 20, 2010 1:42 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
has he ever commented here before??
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
No, and he never came back after that gem.
Imagine that.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken
How many roster spots do we have?
The max is 15, but the Lakers generally go with the minimum allowable to save money… anyone know what that number is?
Current projected roster: Bryant, Gasol, Fisher, Artest, Bynum, Odom, Blake, Walton, Vujacic, Ebanks, Caracter.
If it’s 12, we only have one spot left, so we’d have to choose between a big and guard.
If it’s 13, we can sign a big and choose between Brown and Lin for the guard spot.
I don’t think it’s 14, but that’s what we’d need to get all three.
I know it’s not going to make a difference in the playoffs, but I love the idea of starting our youth movement while Kobe is still going strong. Any chance we can get both Brown and Lin plus a big?
"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec
"This isn't an apocalypse. It’s a motherf***ing war." -Hdg23
Gotta have 13
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by DexterFishmore on Jul 20, 2010 2:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Harvard student?
let me guess, he’s Asian? haha j/k.
"Love me or hate me; it's one or the other. Always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fade-away, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Bryant
oh shit... he is.
"Love me or hate me; it's one or the other. Always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fade-away, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Bryant
I had this guy penciled in as likely to be our #58th pick, back in the Draft Primer.
Still want him.
Before Kobe won the title, the line we would all hear was 'Kobe isn't as good as LeBron'. This is far from new. Laker and Kobe fans have heard it before. The names change, the premise remains the same. At different times in history, Tracy McGrady was considered to be better than Kobe. Allen Iverson was once considered his equal. Even the likes of Vince Carter, Grant Hill and Jerry Stackhouse were given the 'next Jordan' title.
Kobe has beaten all comers. They have retreated into the shadows as pretenders, whilst Kobe outlasted them all to stand alone in the League today, with his 5 rings and innumerable accolades.
Now? All the haters have left to say is ’Kobe’s no Jordan.’
You know what? They’re right. He’s not Michael Jordan. He’s Kobe Bean Bryant. And I wouldn’t have it any other way.
if the lakers are talking with lin, are they also talking with kurt thomas and or rasho? or is the lakers interest in kurt and rasho pure speculation only on the part of us here at ssnr?
drive for 5 accomplished ! hunt for 6th ring and 2nd 3peat begins !
I've heard Kobe's been on the phone with Kurt.
But that was a while back.
Kobe Bryant's no Michael Jordan. Kobe Bryant is Kobe Bryant.
by Saurav A. Das on Jul 21, 2010 4:42 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm okay with the Harvard guy
Loved how he took on John Wall. Yup, I’m okay with three rookies in the Laker bench.
kobe bryant=batman
Watched the Mavs-Wiz game again
he looked good. Fast off the dribble and hit some tough shots. I was that with the game on the line with former 1st rounder beaubois was stuck on the bench and that they ran the offense through Lin, the undrafted player, instead of their first round pick this year (who i think projects as a PG)
Jim McMillan
In 1970, the Lakers drafted Jim McMillan out of Columbia, and he’d turn out to be a starter on the 1974 championship squad
This is a typo since there was no championship won for the Lakers in 1974. Jimmy McMillan was on the 1971-72 championship squad and became a starter after Elgin Baylor retired 13 games into that season.
The one thing that stands out about this is that the very next game after McMillan became a starter, was the beginning of the 33 game winning streak.
by cplair on Jul 20, 2010 9:19 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for the correction
Brain-fart by me. Fixed.
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by DexterFishmore on Jul 20, 2010 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions
he's a winner...
Folks, Lin is the real deal. Like Kobe, he’s a winner. If the Lakers were smart, which they are, they would add this kid to the roster. Why? Lin is the 2nd coming of Nash. Unloved out of high school and college, he just brings it on the court. Fact is, Lin simply knows how to play the game. And he doesn’t have to score to make his team and mates better. He’s a winner. Ask anyone who has ever played with him. You’re looking at the future starting point guard for the Lakers.
I want the Little 3
Ebanks, Caracter, and Lin.
"I've hacked into your brain. You're throwing a party and no one's showing up."
Lin close to signing with Golden State
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5396732
I am sad panda. :(
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
The article says he’s a life-long Warriors fan. Good luck to him, though I too am sad to lose him. I’m curious if GSW offered more money? He had a legit chance to earn the starting PG spot here in 1-2 years.
"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec
"This isn't an apocalypse. It’s a motherf***ing war." -Hdg23
Yeah, they offered to guarantee half of his first-year money
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
I can't say I blame him.
He’s a Bay Area kid, and he wants to play for his hometown team. I really hope he succeeds with the Warriors.
Don't let the name deceive you, I'm not just a Sharks fan but a Lakers, 49ers, Angels, Giants (and to a lesser extent) Capitals, and Titans fan.
by SharksFanEst.1994 on Jul 21, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions

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