Player Report Card: Josh Powell
This is the next piece in our series of Player Report Cards, in which we evaluate and assign a grade to the performance of each member of the 2009-10 Los Angeles Lakers. Next in line is Josh Powell, a.k.a J-Peezy.
The best way to describe Josh Powell's role on this year's Lakers team is to tell you that he is a good friend of Kobe Bryant. His friendship with Kobe far outweighed J-Peezy's on-court contributions to this year's championship Lakers squad. That's not to say he didn't help the team at all; he did. Every player helped the team hoist the Larry O'Brien Trophy, but Josh definitely took a step back in terms of productions and role on the team. A step back that could cost him his job.
What made Josh a valuable bench guy last season was his ability to step right in and be a short term solution due to injuries or foul trouble. He's never been much of a defender, still he played his role well by knocking down shots and rebounding when called upon. This past season? His numbers dropped in a contract year. There shouldn't be too much to hold against an obvious 12th man though. He's that far down the bench for a reason, because he isn't an elite guy. He's not a player who can, nor should he be relied on, to win a championship. Yet, when the Lakers are looking to cut salary where they can, and they already drafted a second-round steal in Derrick Caracter, an off season in a contract year might show Josh Powell the door.
Let's take a look at J-Peezy's season.
Josh's strengths are his midrange jumper and rebounding. Or at least they were. In '08-09, Powell averaged 4.2 ppg on 44.4 FGA% and 2.9 rebounds. In '09-10, he averaged 2.7 ppg, on 36.6 FGA% and 1.8 rebounds. In C.A's report on DJ Mbenga (whom received a D+), we learned that our 13th guy (and most likely our worst player) had per 36 minute averages of 10.6 ppg and 8.8 rebounds. Powell's numbers were slightly worse. His per 36 minutes averages were 10.5 points and 7.2 rebounds. He started out the season averaging 15.5 minutes per game in October and November due to Pau Gasol's absence, but obviously, he was relegated back to the bench upon Pau's return. In the time he did get in Pau's absence, he seemed to fall in love with trying the occasional three-point shot or deep two-pointer.
Something tells me Phil Jackson didn't appreciate that much. It was out of Powell's range, thus taking away his one of his few strengths - knocking down open midrange shots. He doesn't finish well close to the basket, and he's not a post-up player. So, if he's not hitting his shots, and his rebounding is suffering, there isn't much need for him to be out there. Hence, the drop in minutes from 11.7 in '08-09 to only 9.2 in '09-10. The coaching staff went from giving Powell crucial minutes, when needed, in big games in '08-09 to giving Lamar more minutes, and going with a smaller second unit line-up. Powell was mostly relegated to definite Taco Unit time.
I like him, but it's up in the air if Powell will return. I felt all season that the Lakers held him back to keep his price down, but he responded poorly in the minutes he received. He's a pretty good player for what he's paid though, and he's been in the Triangle for a two seasons now. His experience in Phil's system and the fact that it will be Phil's last season helps Powell's chance at returning if they feel Derrick Caracter isn't quite ready. Don't forget, the NBA subsidizes part of veteran minimum contracts, so the Lakers won't have to pay too much more than they would have to pay a second-round rookie. That's if the Lakers are choosing between the two, and if no team bites and gives Powell more than the Lakers might be willing to offer. Caracter has been impressive this summer, and most likely, just might make Powell irrelevant. But hey, he is Kobe's good friend, and that could mean much more than his small drop in production on the court. I'm sure it helped Fish's case in getting another 3 years.
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Player Grade: D
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Its sad that the last comment on Josh Powell's contribution to the Lakers was
“Checkout J-Peezy’s Playlist on Lakers.com”
Sad face.
He's gone
Caracter is cheaper and has far more upside. As for Powell’s game, the disappearance of his ability to be fairly consistent on pick-and-pop plays was perhaps the most glaring factor this year and that all but made him useless. Combine that with the fact that he only shot 48.1% in the immediate basket area, a shockingly poor statistic for a big, and that’s why he was relegated to strict Taco unit duty.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
is caracter really better than josh? or does caracter fit into the lakers plan only because his salary is gonna be cheaper compared to josh?
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by bobc-lakersfan on Jul 19, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Both
Caracter’s post game and shooting ability are far, far better than practically every non-Cousins rookie in this class and better than a good chunk of NBA players. He has great footwork, a nice touch on the ball, and can finish with either hand. If he was an inch or two taller, he’d be a top ten pick. Add the fact that he costs half as much as Powell and we have a winner.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
wow so we got lucky and got a much improved version of josh at around half the cost? great!!!
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by bobc-lakersfan on Jul 19, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Not really an improved version of Josh
Their games aren’t really similar.
I'm going to take my talents to... your mom... Literally every single team that's ever won a championship has done it without LeBron James.
hmm good point... ebanks more similar to josh, maybe?
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by bobc-lakersfan on Jul 19, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
nah dude lol
Ebanks = Ariza
Ebanks is a skinny 6’8 dude with driving ability, and nice defense.
I'm going to take my talents to... your mom... Literally every single team that's ever won a championship has done it without LeBron James.
ah ok.. so i guess both ebanks and caracter will make the team? i wonder when was the last time the lakers signed 2 2nd round picks in the same year..
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by bobc-lakersfan on Jul 19, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
All signs point to yes.
This is Ebanks.
http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2010/7/12/1565188/devin-ebanks-trevor-ariza
I'm going to take my talents to... your mom... Literally every single team that's ever won a championship has done it without LeBron James.
hmm..he does look like ariza. is his game similar to ariza on offense or defense? or both?
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by bobc-lakersfan on Jul 19, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
better on offense, same defense, pure shooting stroke, the kind
that KD has in his mechanics.
by rickfox on Jul 19, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
when you say KD do you mean KEVIN DURANT? our next laker mvp after kobe retires? hehehe
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by bobc-lakersfan on Jul 19, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Devin Ebanks does not, repeat, does not have Durant's ability
He’s a good prospect, just like Jeremy Lin, who I hope we also sign.
by rickfox on Jul 19, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
lin is the pg on the lakers on the lakers summer league team right? why the sudden surge in interest on the guy? i thought only caracter n ebanks had a shot in making the team
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by bobc-lakersfan on Jul 19, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
He's on the Mavericks.
I don’t know what the sudden surge in interest is, but it sure helps to do work against John Wall.
I'm going to take my talents to... your mom... Literally every single team that's ever won a championship has done it without LeBron James.
there is no sudden surge, he won a state title in HS,
no Division 1 school would give him a scholarship.
He’s incredibly gifted scorer, gets to the free throw line a lot, bout 10 times per 40 minutes. Shoots 60% inside the arc, 37% beyond the arc, good court vision, unselfish, stat filler, steals, blocks, rebounds very well [like a taller Rondo].
He’s not a mirage.
by rickfox on Jul 19, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you know when (which pick) he was drafted? Or undrafted.
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Undrafted
We wouldn’t be considering him otherwise.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Ah
So even though he’s played for the Mavericks’ summer league team, he is free to sign with anybody else?
I'm going to take my talents to... your mom... Literally every single team that's ever won a championship has done it without LeBron James.
Yes
For every player who isn’t a draft pick or a second (or third in some cases) year player, summer league is largely a big tryout for the NBA and European teams, which pick up a lot of the marginal prospects, especially tweeners with no position in the NBA but a clearer one in Europe.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
understood. was just wishing we get kd after kobe retires.
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by bobc-lakersfan on Jul 19, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
it seemed pretty clear to me
that rickfox was talking about KD’s shooting stroke only
by mildclubsauce on Jul 19, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
yup got it. rickfox. you were only talking bout the shooting stroke of kd.
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by bobc-lakersfan on Jul 19, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't really know his style of play that much and haven't watched him on film
But yeah what rickfox said. and I believe his three % in summer league play was 45.4%
I'm going to take my talents to... your mom... Literally every single team that's ever won a championship has done it without LeBron James.
6’9 no longer cuts it? or is he shorter than that?
"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."
Listed at 6'9.
Some say he’s more like 6’8.
I'm going to take my talents to... your mom... Literally every single team that's ever won a championship has done it without LeBron James.
6'7'' with no shoes, 6'8.25'' with them
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
then i agree, for a pf that is short.
"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."
Oh, that was for Ebanks
Caracter is 6’8.25’’ with no shoes and 6’9.5’’ with them.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Caracter reminds me of Barkley
he doesn’t let lack of height stop him in the post
"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec
"This isn't an apocalypse. It’s a motherf***ing war." -Hdg23
Krolik on Jeremy Lin
I took a really hard look at Lin in his Summer League finale game against the Kings, and the news is all good. Lin isn’t a traditional drive-and-kick guard, but he sees plays before they happen and knows where the right pass is. Even if he doesn’t make the pass that leads directly to a basket, he gets the ball to a teammate in a position where he can do something with it. His three assist box score is a joke — there were at least four or five passes Lin made that didn’t go down as assists because his teammate blew an open shot or got fouled. He also moves as well without the ball as any guard in Summer League, which is something that becomes obvious as soon as he hits the floor.
The biggest thing Lin needs to improve is his jumper, which is passable but not great. He’s not a guy that looks to settle for the jumper, which is a great quality, but he will need to keep the defense honest from the perimeter. Right now, Lin’s elbow flies out when he shoots, and you can tell he doesn’t have total faith in his jumper yet.
His shot isn’t a glaring weakness or anything — he made a three per game at Harvard, and hit two of the three three-pointers he took in Vegas. It’s just that he’ll be a nearly ideal backup guard or starter in a triangle-type offense in the NBA if he can make that jumper into a strength — I can definitely see Lin being a Derek Fisher-type guard thanks to his blend of toughness and basketball IQ, with Lin being a better driver than Fisher but a less confident outside shooter.
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/some-thoughts-from-the-final-day-of-summer-league.php
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
LOL, Lin in a Josh Powell post
Powell: “I get no respect”!
Lin under serious consideration by the Lakers
“We’re just trying to sort out the best roster fit, the best situation for Jeremy, but we’re highly considering the Lakers,” Montgomery said in a phone interview Monday.
Montgomery said the Lakers aren’t the only team vying for Lin, with the Mavericks and an unnamed Eastern Conference team also in the mix. Added Montgomery: “As of late there are a few more players involved as well.”
Lin averaged 9.8 points, 3.2 rebounds, 1.8 assists and 1.2 steals while shooting 54.5 percent from the floor and 66.7 percent on three-pointers in five games while playing for the Dallas Mavericks summer league team in Las Vegas.
The 21-year-old guard should be landing on an NBA roster — the Lakers’ or another team’s — sooner than later.
“I think the end game is imminent,” Montgomery said. “We’re having some internal discussions [with the Lakers] that look positive. There’s mutual interest and end game is certainly imminent. The Lakers are definitely in the mix.”
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/news/story?id=5392883
I am a happy camper if this goes down.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
I hope it happens
I was devastated when Sun Yue left (seriously, I’m not kidding lol). He grew up in Cali I think so there’s a good shot we get him, but I wouldn’t be pissed if he chooses the Mavs. He did play for their summer league after all. But I’d love nothing more than to rub in my friend’s faces how the Lakers got him and not the Mavs.
We need a confident outside shooter!
but i guess that is what makes Fish awesome….INTANGIBLES!!!
13th
I think the 13th guy was Morrison anyway…
by Belgian Chocolate Lake on Jul 19, 2010 11:39 AM PDT reply actions
if i remember correctly, josh was supposed to be the replacement for turiaf right? we even had a post where someone noted that both sported the same hair style, plus posted similar scoring/reb nos.. i guess im just wondering why josh regressed while turiaf improved at golden state..
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by bobc-lakersfan on Jul 19, 2010 12:32 PM PDT reply actions
Turiaf was always a much better player than Powell
And he wasn’t his replacement per se; Turiaf’s replacement was Bynum. With Gasol, Bynum, and Odom in the frontcourt, there were going to be hardly any minutes for any other frontcourt players, which is part of the reason that we didn’t match Turiaf’s offer sheet from Golden State.
And on the subject of Turiaf, he’s going to be great in New York. His energy and ability to run the floor will work in D’Antoni’s offense and between Mozgov, Turiaf, and Randolph, they’ll have dramatically improved the athleticism and defense on the interior.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
hmm..so if josh is gone, is ebanks actually the replacement for him and caracter for dj?
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by bobc-lakersfan on Jul 19, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
No, Ebanks is Morrison's replacement to some extent
Although he’ll obviously be far more effective and will likely end up eating up most of Walton’s minutes. Caracter is Powell’s replacement, and as for Mbenga, we’re still likely going to sign a veteran big such as Kurt Thomas or Rasho Nestrovic.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Nesterovic*
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
so you think we will re-sign mbenga plus add either kurt or rasho? if both would agree to the same amount of money who is the better fit to the lakers, kurt or rasho?
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by bobc-lakersfan on Jul 19, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
No, it's either or
Of the two, I’d probably prefer Thomas. He’s a smarter defensive player, still a good rebounder, and has a decent midrange shot. Nesterovic is bigger and can clean up around the boards along with an oddly effective midrange shot (his stroke is very unorthodox). Both, however, would be much better than Mbenga.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
aren't we better off with rasho as we retain our advantage of having 3 7 footers?
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by bobc-lakersfan on Jul 19, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Not necessarily
Height isn’t everything here. Thomas has a long record of playing smart, tough defense.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
i hope mitch figures out the roster soon..
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by bobc-lakersfan on Jul 19, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I would say so
They go nine deep now and are solid at essentially every position, along with the fact that they have quite a few above average defenders in that bunch.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
wow. no love. i think our bench is going to be weaker this year. having 2 rookies scares me. on a championship team, we should limit their playing time.
"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."
Maybe it was harsh, but I gave him a D-
because he was basically a non-factor this season. Especially since our bench was pretty bad most of the season. I thought he regressed. Last year I would have given him a B.
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It's a good thing I didn't take Powell
He would have been my only straight up F. I thought he was terrible this year, both in his ineffectiveness when playing, and in that, when he came in, he routinely jacked up shots that shouldn’t have been taken.
It’s one thing to be a bad player at the end of the bench (a la AMMO). It’s another thing altogether to be a bad player who doesn’t play the way the coaches want you to. For me, Powell did both.
Then again, I’m a noted JP hater, so take it all with a grain of salt.
josh definitely regressed this year...
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by bobc-lakersfan on Jul 19, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Having 2 rookies scare you?
Having Powell shoot long 2’s or 3s scared me lol.
I'm going to take my talents to... your mom... Literally every single team that's ever won a championship has done it without LeBron James.
i think mbenga was more productive than josh this past season.
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by bobc-lakersfan on Jul 19, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Having only dealt with the very bottom of the bench so far
I don’t know how you could expect anything but very low grades. The Taco unit was absolutely terrible this season, even by the standards that you should judge the end of a bench. How many times did they lose huge leads so quickly that PJ had to put the starters back in to finish off the game? How many extra minutes did Kobe and/or Pau have to play because Phil couldn’t trust these guys to manage a 15 point lead with 3-4 minutes left to play?
The end of our bench might not get any better this year, but it’s hard to imagine it being any worse.
thanks josh, fo all the memories
so long Mr. ICBM
(Interdediate/Close-up Brick Master)
Today's sports media excels at over-reaction to a single event and specializes in hyperboles. But hey, it's that or my biochem textbook...
is josh officially gone from lakers or not yet? who is more likely be re-signed by the lakers, dj or josh?
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Tough call
I don’t think either one comes back, but if it’s one or the other, I just don’t know.
Mbenga fits better, as Caracter provides a logical replacement for what JP brought to the table, and Mbenga’s size makes him better insurance against a Bynum/Pau injury.
The wild card in all this is JP’s relationship with Kobe. Being one of Kobe’s closest friends on the team is the only reason I could see JP sticking another season.
maybe kobe takes one for team and just pays josh out of his own pocket just so powell can remain on the team? hehehe. just joking
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by bobc-lakersfan on Jul 19, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Turiaf was also very close to Kobe
Fisher got his contract not just because Kobe likes him, but needs his leadership to steady the team. Kobe knew they could manage without Turiaf so he didn’t raise a stink. I think the same will happen with Powell.
"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec
"This isn't an apocalypse. It’s a motherf***ing war." -Hdg23
lin highlights:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KidZUPU79r0
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
some college highlights too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVVzGm8SbOM
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
LA Should sign Gheorghe Muresan
You want to smell like me?
Front office
I think that Kobe has a lot of pull in that front office. If I were a GM thinking about the 12th man on a roster, I would rather make my superstar happy than to go for the rookie. Yes, the logical thing to do is to stick with Derrick Caracter. We know that JP can’t really produce. So logically the rookie risk is a more attractive shot, but keeping our baby Kobe happy is logical also.
Kobe has no pull in the front office.
He may voice his opinion but that’s about it.
"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right." - Gil Meriken

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