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The Lakers Are Calling Derek Fisher's Bluff

Some details have emerged tonight about the bidding, uh, "war" for Derek Fisher. A story filed minutes ago by Broderick Turner of the Los Angeles Times contains two key pieces of information. One is that the Miami Heat have indeed offered Fish a contract. It's for two years, with the second being a player option. The salary is "up to $2 million" per year, depending on what Mike Miller and Udonis Haslem will agree to. The Heat have apparently promised Fish the starting point-guard gig.

The second key update is that the Lakers are now offering Fish a deal worth $2.75 million annually. Turner doesn't know whether it's a one- or two-year offer, but in any event, it's a very slight increase from the $2.5 million contract the Lakers were reportedly offering last week. The Heat are requesting answers from Fish, Miller and Haslem by Tuesday.

What this story tells us is that the Lakers aren't buying Fisher's whole Miami act. They're willing to bet that he'll come back to the Lakers at a fairly modest salary, and they're willing to risk losing him if they're wrong. After a weekend in which Fish flew to Florida to chat with LeBron JamesPat Riley and Mickey Arison, the Lakers upped their offer by only $250,000. They're saying to him, in effect, "Here's a few extra bucks to help you save face, but if you really want to take less money to play for the Heat, be our guest."

I don't blame Fish for trying to extract maximum dollars from the Lakers, but he's in a losing battle here. The team has a backup plan in place in the form of Steve Blake, they're spending assloads of money on their core talent (including the best coach in the business), and they're not about to lavish another $4 million a year on a 36-year-old point guard, no matter how rich his history with the franchise. It's now Fish's decision whether to stay or go.

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yea, seems to be a fairly simple scenario overall. i think fish will make the right call.

by callpocket8 on Jul 11, 2010 11:58 PM PDT reply actions  

lol

i’ve never seen a spike lee movie in my life, that was a good intro :)

by ch3wy on Jul 12, 2010 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Spike Lee movies

are great. Do The RIght Thang, School Daze, Inside Man, The Levees series on Hurrican Katrina, Spike does it all and he’s really good.

Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Jevon O

by Marty Mart on Jul 12, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also, as far as Shannon Brown is concerned..

Offers from Utah?? DON’T TAKE IT SB

I’d much rather see you in Chicago than Utah.

Sweet 16

by bluexfalcon on Jul 12, 2010 12:01 AM PDT reply actions  

Fuck, fourth....

never first. Maybe next time.

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Jul 12, 2010 12:02 AM PDT reply actions  

oh yeah....

nice article.

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Jul 12, 2010 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lol, Fisher and the Lakers playing games with each other...

We all know where you belong, Fish. You play in Miami, there’s no dual seven footers to back up your defensive deficiencies against Rondo, Rose, Harris, Williams, Jennings, and Wall.

"You know how a guy can make his team so much better? That’s one thing I learned from watching Jordan." - LBJ

by LakerUNLTD on Jul 12, 2010 12:02 AM PDT reply actions  

Westbrook and Farmar too

Did I just type that?

Sweet 16

by bluexfalcon on Jul 12, 2010 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

Wouldn’t it be funny to watch Farmar burn Fisher? Hahaha.

"You know how a guy can make his team so much better? That’s one thing I learned from watching Jordan." - LBJ

by LakerUNLTD on Jul 12, 2010 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

No real proof of this, just an opinion, but....

I don’t know if Jordan was really well liked on the Lakers (other than BFF Walton).

Maybe Fisher just goes “Scola” on his ass? Stay tuned.

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Jul 12, 2010 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Haha, oh snap...

Yeah, I remember hearing something about attitude problems, but not much other than that.

"You know how a guy can make his team so much better? That’s one thing I learned from watching Jordan." - LBJ

by LakerUNLTD on Jul 12, 2010 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

maybe a bus favorite.

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Jul 12, 2010 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Luke and Jordan are best friends. I believe they live (now lived I guess) across the street from each other.

"Embrace the battle" -Lamar Odom

by intuitive on Jul 12, 2010 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kobe has always said he liked farmar too..

likes his competitive spirit…

"They need security in the world, Craig!"

by Tuna Helper on Jul 12, 2010 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's Kobe speak for.........

I’m not gonna get caught on a cell phone camera again talking shit about a teammate.

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Jul 12, 2010 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lol

might be. but i’m not psychic and i don’t know the dude.

so i hafta take him at his word.

"They need security in the world, Craig!"

by Tuna Helper on Jul 12, 2010 1:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Caaq-qujL84

This one was probably my favorite.

"Embrace the battle" -Lamar Odom

by intuitive on Jul 12, 2010 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

Arguing like a married couple about some chairs.

Sweet 16

by bluexfalcon on Jul 12, 2010 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

it's like watching a bromance

Today's sports media excels at over-reaction to a single event and specializes in hyperboles. But hey, it's that or my biochem textbook...

by Mike1204 on Jul 12, 2010 2:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

goodness gracious, this league is so PG-dominated, and you're only mentioning the eastern conference

we need to see more young big men with legitimate post moves

"i remember one time,we was playing basketball,and we was winning the game,it was so competitive,he broke a piece of lead from a table,and he threw it and it went right through his heart and he died right on the court" - Ron Artest on wonderful childhood memories.

by eLrEiEc on Jul 12, 2010 6:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

hate to say it

But I’m not sure we need fish. I wonder if we can spend his dollars on Tmac

by LAKESHOW_SC on Jul 12, 2010 12:13 AM PDT reply actions  

owned.

"You know how a guy can make his team so much better? That’s one thing I learned from watching Jordan." - LBJ

by LakerUNLTD on Jul 12, 2010 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol you may be right

however, it’s not a top priority. we need PG depth more than we need SG depth.

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"The NBA Apocalypse has occurred, and it's our fault."- C.A. Clark

by LakerAce on Jul 12, 2010 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

True

But Sasha is a shooter… I think what LAKESHOW_SC means by a decent backup like T-Mac, is that we need a guy who can shoot and</b< drive.

"You know how a guy can make his team so much better? That’s one thing I learned from watching Jordan." - LBJ

by LakerUNLTD on Jul 12, 2010 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

fail.

"You know how a guy can make his team so much better? That’s one thing I learned from watching Jordan." - LBJ

by LakerUNLTD on Jul 12, 2010 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

yestehhtmlsuccessfail.

"You know how a guy can make his team so much better? That’s one thing I learned from watching Jordan." - LBJ

by LakerUNLTD on Jul 12, 2010 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

That was intended, haha.

"You know how a guy can make his team so much better? That’s one thing I learned from watching Jordan." - LBJ

by LakerUNLTD on Jul 12, 2010 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ok..I’ll let that one slide.

Sweet 16

by bluexfalcon on Jul 12, 2010 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

lmao

Nice pic to accompany the caption, or caption, to accompany the pic.

"You know how a guy can make his team so much better? That’s one thing I learned from watching Jordan." - LBJ

by LakerUNLTD on Jul 12, 2010 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well played sir

"Embrace the battle" -Lamar Odom

by intuitive on Jul 12, 2010 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

if we sign

If we lose fish and are able to sign a legit 2 guard vet we can use sasha to back up blake. Not like we really need a true pg anyway.

by LAKESHOW_SC on Jul 12, 2010 12:34 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

rofllll

"You know how a guy can make his team so much better? That’s one thing I learned from watching Jordan." - LBJ

by LakerUNLTD on Jul 12, 2010 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

In all honesty,

I was not rolling on floor laughing.

"You know how a guy can make his team so much better? That’s one thing I learned from watching Jordan." - LBJ

by LakerUNLTD on Jul 12, 2010 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I cq'd

chuckled quietly…

"Ha ha! You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders, the most famous of which is 'Never get involved in a land war in Asia,' but only slightly less well-known is this, "Never get into a pissing contest with Kobe Bryant!"

by bigdeal1188 on Jul 12, 2010 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

didnt think so

If u were, I would suggest u get out of the house more often

by LAKESHOW_SC on Jul 12, 2010 12:39 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Lol.

No, must lurk moar!

"You know how a guy can make his team so much better? That’s one thing I learned from watching Jordan." - LBJ

by LakerUNLTD on Jul 12, 2010 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Stuff's addicting.

"You know how a guy can make his team so much better? That’s one thing I learned from watching Jordan." - LBJ

by LakerUNLTD on Jul 12, 2010 12:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol do you even know how free agency works?

we can’t use any money saved from not signing/resigning fisher to less money on Tmac.

Fisher was on our team last year, hence we can resign him for as much as the max 20 million.

Since Tmac wasnt on our team last year we can only use our remaining MLE money to sign mgrady, or sign him to the vet minimum.

so by saving money on Fisher, the only thing we can hope for is that Buss is feeling like we should add someone with the remaining MLE and not just find bodies to fill our roster with the min

In Kobe we trust!

by robi s on Jul 12, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure

I would like to play poker with Mitch Kupchak

Some people juggle geese.

by Tagath on Jul 12, 2010 12:17 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

his poker face...

Formerly known as "akb24b"

"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."

"Lets go for for it again"- Kobe Bryant, 2010 Championship ceremony.

"The NBA Apocalypse has occurred, and it's our fault."- C.A. Clark

by LakerAce on Jul 12, 2010 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wait, I think I messed up the joke…

Sweet 16

by bluexfalcon on Jul 12, 2010 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

You did....

Poker is two words…….at least in this context.

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Jul 12, 2010 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

Formerly known as "akb24b"

"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."

"Lets go for for it again"- Kobe Bryant, 2010 Championship ceremony.

"The NBA Apocalypse has occurred, and it's our fault."- C.A. Clark

by LakerAce on Jul 12, 2010 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

LMAO!

Formerly known as "akb24b"

"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."

"Lets go for for it again"- Kobe Bryant, 2010 Championship ceremony.

"The NBA Apocalypse has occurred, and it's our fault."- C.A. Clark

by LakerAce on Jul 12, 2010 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol

and across the table from broke-ass cat, the card shark who took his litter box… Jerry Buss. Let this be a warning, D-Fish.

"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec

by deadmuse on Jul 12, 2010 2:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

lmao!

best pic of this post!

"E-Coaches are heavy in here tonight! Take E-Sasha and put him on the E-bench on your fantasy league, that’ll show him!" - Jevon O

by altree on Jul 12, 2010 5:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

"Pay dat man his money..."


Kupchak really lets himself go when he’s running the tables..

Kobe is like constantly in Kill Mode - Ron Artest

by MexcNguy1 on Jul 12, 2010 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

farmar didnt had a chance

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Let this be a reminder to all of us; without competition, without that possibility (and realization) of failure, success would be meaningless. -- Zephid, FB&G

by imposibol on Jul 12, 2010 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would be terrible at poker

cause I could never keep a straight face.

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Jul 12, 2010 12:21 AM PDT reply actions  

reply fail

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Jul 12, 2010 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

it happens.

"You know how a guy can make his team so much better? That’s one thing I learned from watching Jordan." - LBJ

by LakerUNLTD on Jul 12, 2010 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

these cats pics are killin me

Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Jevon O

by Marty Mart on Jul 12, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

good point

they are calling his bluff. good business move.

I don’t think fish is going anywhere but I’m still kinda nervous. I don’t want him to leave. I won’t feel better until he signs.

But one thing you can count on: Mitch and the laker brass don’t play. And they know the market. So what they offer you is prolly the most you’re gonna get.

Gotta love Mitch. What would we do without him.

"They need security in the world, Craig!"

by Tuna Helper on Jul 12, 2010 12:26 AM PDT reply actions  

What would we do without him?

We’d be doin’ work with Marc Gasol…

"You know how a guy can make his team so much better? That’s one thing I learned from watching Jordan." - LBJ

by LakerUNLTD on Jul 12, 2010 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lol

True. Love that dude.

And we’d have Jermaine O’Neal and Bynum and LO would be playing in Indiana

"They need security in the world, Craig!"

by Tuna Helper on Jul 12, 2010 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Holy gods... forgot that.

How screwed would we be now?

The half-crazed ramblings of a Lakers fanatic living in Japan...

by With Malice on Jul 12, 2010 3:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

think we could have won without LO?

"E-Coaches are heavy in here tonight! Take E-Sasha and put him on the E-bench on your fantasy league, that’ll show him!" - Jevon O

by altree on Jul 12, 2010 5:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

2 million a year??

doesnt sound like a very convincing offer from the Heat. Even the Lakers original offer was higher than that. Unless they push it up to 4-5 million a year, the chances of Fisher going to Miami are slim. Fisher will have a significant draw to staying with the Lakers unless the Heat make a really convincing offer like that IMO.

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Jul 12, 2010 12:28 AM PDT reply actions  

"UP TO" $2 million a year!!!

What kind of bonuses would he have to meet? Earning an extra million a year at home and for a chance to three peat sounds like the best offer he is going to get. At least to me. Unless he figures he could get three in Miami (yeah right). This should be his last year anyway. The Lakers were being generous to offer two years. The second year will be on the bench mentoring, coaching, and motivating the players.

Great players win games. Great teams win championships.

by Busboys4me on Jul 12, 2010 1:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if the..........

“guaranteed starting spot” is more important than the money to Fish at this point.

Are we all sure he will be the Lakers starter next year?

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Jul 12, 2010 12:29 AM PDT reply actions  

Is Phil coming back next year?

Yes? There’s your answer.

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"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."

"Lets go for for it again"- Kobe Bryant, 2010 Championship ceremony.

"The NBA Apocalypse has occurred, and it's our fault."- C.A. Clark

by LakerAce on Jul 12, 2010 12:31 AM PDT reply actions  

replay fail...

this was a reply to pslakerfan

Formerly known as "akb24b"

"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."

"Lets go for for it again"- Kobe Bryant, 2010 Championship ceremony.

"The NBA Apocalypse has occurred, and it's our fault."- C.A. Clark

by LakerAce on Jul 12, 2010 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

reply*

/facepalm

Formerly known as "akb24b"

"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."

"Lets go for for it again"- Kobe Bryant, 2010 Championship ceremony.

"The NBA Apocalypse has occurred, and it's our fault."- C.A. Clark

by LakerAce on Jul 12, 2010 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL....

I think most reply fails happen at the bottom of the page.

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Jul 12, 2010 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

So many fails lately.

Must be the lack of sleep.

"You know how a guy can make his team so much better? That’s one thing I learned from watching Jordan." - LBJ

by LakerUNLTD on Jul 12, 2010 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

speaking of sleep

laterz. Gotta work golf tomorrow. Suckers.

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Jul 12, 2010 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I guess I'll stop lurking.

Nao.

"You know how a guy can make his team so much better? That’s one thing I learned from watching Jordan." - LBJ

by LakerUNLTD on Jul 12, 2010 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

heh

resident lurker tag belongs to pslakerfan

"E-Coaches are heavy in here tonight! Take E-Sasha and put him on the E-bench on your fantasy league, that’ll show him!" - Jevon O

by altree on Jul 12, 2010 5:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

just kidding John..;-)

"E-Coaches are heavy in here tonight! Take E-Sasha and put him on the E-bench on your fantasy league, that’ll show him!" - Jevon O

by altree on Jul 12, 2010 6:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

good point.

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Jul 12, 2010 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Prediction....

pain Fisher signs tomorrow. In LA.

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Jul 12, 2010 12:31 AM PDT reply actions  

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Jul 12, 2010 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

lmao

Why does he have Bobby Light hair?

Sweet 16

by bluexfalcon on Jul 12, 2010 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

You win first prize.....

EPIC. If you just had two blonde kittens on either side of him, it would be perfect.

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Jul 12, 2010 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not so fast...FIRST PRIZE if

he would have put two barely legal blonde kittens on either side.

Former LakersForDeuce: "The 2010 champs made me up the ante and change my name!"

by LakersForTrey on Jul 12, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

eh....

A lot of Fisher’s heroics come on the heels of pretty bad/mediocre games.

Maybe with another PG we win easily. Who knows.

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Jul 12, 2010 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agree

I also find myself pondering, if Fish didn’t stink so much at this, or that, would there even be a need for his intangible clutchness?

"You know how a guy can make his team so much better? That’s one thing I learned from watching Jordan." - LBJ

by LakerUNLTD on Jul 12, 2010 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Late-game heroics

Might not be necessary if Fisher didn’t get burned x amount of times earlier in the game.

"You know how a guy can make his team so much better? That’s one thing I learned from watching Jordan." - LBJ

by LakerUNLTD on Jul 12, 2010 12:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or it could be that Fisher was deliberately letting them burn him in order for the opposing team to gain a semi-substantial lead, thus becoming complacent. After their complacency settles in, Fisher will still continue to garner major amounts of suck so that his primary defender will become even more complacent. Therefore, enabling Fisher’s heroics.

Or in other words; intangibles.

by shoang1993 on Jul 12, 2010 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

ROFL

Damn, he’s smarter than I think then, planning all of this out.

"You know how a guy can make his team so much better? That’s one thing I learned from watching Jordan." - LBJ

by LakerUNLTD on Jul 12, 2010 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

This team's defensive strategy counts on fisher getting burned.

If that didn’t happen our bigs wouldn’t be worth their money

Kobe, God and I don't tweet. Everyone else does.

by Madz on Jul 12, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

If fisher could lock down Ray Allen in (game 2?), we may not have needed a game 7.

=)

"You know how a guy can make his team so much better? That’s one thing I learned from watching Jordan." - LBJ

by LakerUNLTD on Jul 12, 2010 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

no one could have stopped Allen in game 2

that was a team fail.

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Jul 12, 2010 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

True

Just trying to support my thoughts with differing opinions, as to your reply about Fisher’s necessity to the Lakers.

"You know how a guy can make his team so much better? That’s one thing I learned from watching Jordan." - LBJ

by LakerUNLTD on Jul 12, 2010 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

if you must know

we also had this discussion (e.g. a player possibly leaving) after the 09 season with LO. The rest, as they say, is history.

"E-Coaches are heavy in here tonight! Take E-Sasha and put him on the E-bench on your fantasy league, that’ll show him!" - Jevon O

by altree on Jul 12, 2010 5:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

He definitely did stink it up...

Good thing for Boston, Big Baby was doin’ work on the boards. I remember being so damn pissed off because he wasn’t getting boxed out.

"You know how a guy can make his team so much better? That’s one thing I learned from watching Jordan." - LBJ

by LakerUNLTD on Jul 12, 2010 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Someone did stop Allen after Game 2......

Ron Artest. Look at the games if you still have them. Ron Ron committed two hard pick fouls on Allen in game 3 and 4. The first he hit him the hip and Ray was flexing for the rest of the game. The second was a knee right in the middle of his quads above the knee. Ray Allen didn’t have the same legs for the rest of the series. Subtleties my friends, the little things that people miss while watching a game.

Great players win games. Great teams win championships.

by Busboys4me on Jul 12, 2010 2:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol

methinks Ron is a dirty player.. ;-)

"E-Coaches are heavy in here tonight! Take E-Sasha and put him on the E-bench on your fantasy league, that’ll show him!" - Jevon O

by altree on Jul 12, 2010 5:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

Ray Ray definitely did not have his legs after that first hit in game 3, but you knew he was going to try to warrior through it. Still though, he had like no lift and it wasn’t as good of a release from that point on.

Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Jevon O

by Marty Mart on Jul 12, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

last season

For sure.

This season, I don’t think we need him. This year our ability to win the chip weighs on bynums knees

by LAKESHOW_SC on Jul 12, 2010 12:41 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

last season

For sure.

This season, I don’t think we need him. This year our ability to win the chip weighs on bynums knees

by LAKESHOW_SC on Jul 12, 2010 12:41 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Who are you talking about?

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Jul 12, 2010 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Caracter.

"You know how a guy can make his team so much better? That’s one thing I learned from watching Jordan." - LBJ

by LakerUNLTD on Jul 12, 2010 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

F*ck you Rob Sarver!

by Bkj on Jul 12, 2010 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well in that instance...

Pau slides to center and our PF just gets a little smaller (and by smaller I mean typical NBA sized PF) Ah, it’s good to be the king.

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Jul 12, 2010 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

i think the FO is looking for backup centers...

some options are Kurt Thomas, nestorovic (spelling????), and some people are saying we should bring back Shaq as well.

Formerly known as "akb24b"

"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."

"Lets go for for it again"- Kobe Bryant, 2010 Championship ceremony.

"The NBA Apocalypse has occurred, and it's our fault."- C.A. Clark

by LakerAce on Jul 12, 2010 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol....

explains your sig.

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Jul 12, 2010 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry....

but we have been telling you to get off the Stat bandwagon for a while.

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Jul 12, 2010 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol, don't tell me what to do!

Stat will still be my favorite player, but all good things must come to an end

F*ck you Rob Sarver!

by Bkj on Jul 12, 2010 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

even in NY?

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Jul 12, 2010 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sadly yes, been following him for quite a while; I hate to love him.

At least he’ll be reunited w/ azubuike; they played together in HS

F*ck you Rob Sarver!

by Bkj on Jul 12, 2010 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

i laughed at the idea too when i first heard it.

but it makes some sense when you think about it. if Shaq agrees to the vet’s minimum,( big if) Lakers get a good backup big for Bynum. also, Shaq gets to finish his career in L.A, which is appropriate.

Probably the biggest two obstacles are whether or not he is willing to sign for the minimum and whether or not Kobe would agree.

Formerly known as "akb24b"

"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."

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"The NBA Apocalypse has occurred, and it's our fault."- C.A. Clark

by LakerAce on Jul 12, 2010 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

sign for the minimum? Probably.

Get Kobe to sign off on it? Not gonna happen.

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Jul 12, 2010 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm... you sure?

This would guarantee that Kobe would ALWAYS have more rings than Shaq.

Formerly known as "akb24b"

"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."

"Lets go for for it again"- Kobe Bryant, 2010 Championship ceremony.

"The NBA Apocalypse has occurred, and it's our fault."- C.A. Clark

by LakerAce on Jul 12, 2010 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

interesting angle.....

true.

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Jul 12, 2010 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why wouldn't he?

If Shaq signs for the minimum, who’s the man now? and who needs who?
It’s a team game. Kobe knows that. If Shaq is willing to help the team and wants to come back with his tail between his legs, Kobe would be cool with that. Shaq played pretty well last year with Cleveland before he got hurt. And since he’s still a force, he’d help us instead of hinder us, like for example by going to the Celtics for the minimum. I never liked Shaq, but I’d like to see him end his career on good terms, where his number will be retired, where he can make up for all that crap he did and caused, and where he can retire a winner.

Magic made me a Laker fan.

by thestuff01 on Jul 12, 2010 5:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

two things

if a) Kobe agrees, and
  b) Shaq’s ego can take it, after all the history and trash talk.

a) is feasible, but b)? I doubt it.

"E-Coaches are heavy in here tonight! Take E-Sasha and put him on the E-bench on your fantasy league, that’ll show him!" - Jevon O

by altree on Jul 12, 2010 6:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think he would...

How much would he relish watching Shaq on “HIS” team?

That said, I don’t like Shaq’s locker-room presence…

The half-crazed ramblings of a Lakers fanatic living in Japan...

by With Malice on Jul 12, 2010 3:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

True

Magic made me a Laker fan.

by thestuff01 on Jul 13, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just got tired of a username that is all letters and numbers...

its not as easy to remember.

Formerly known as "akb24b"

"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."

"Lets go for for it again"- Kobe Bryant, 2010 Championship ceremony.

"The NBA Apocalypse has occurred, and it's our fault."- C.A. Clark

by LakerAce on Jul 12, 2010 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol

Formerly known as "akb24b"

"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."

"Lets go for for it again"- Kobe Bryant, 2010 Championship ceremony.

"The NBA Apocalypse has occurred, and it's our fault."- C.A. Clark

by LakerAce on Jul 12, 2010 2:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or a name that gets others banned...

The half-crazed ramblings of a Lakers fanatic living in Japan...

by With Malice on Jul 12, 2010 3:38 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

LOL

If Kobe doesn't make his teammates better, how on Earth does Adam Morrison have two rings!?

"The NBA Apocalypse has occurred, and it's our fault." C.A Clark on the Miami Heat

"LeBron James does not want the pressure of greatness, only the rewards" - shaqforthree

"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure."

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by Saurav A. Das on Jul 12, 2010 3:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

lmao!

oh, kobe-like. doesn’t forget.

"E-Coaches are heavy in here tonight! Take E-Sasha and put him on the E-bench on your fantasy league, that’ll show him!" - Jevon O

by altree on Jul 12, 2010 6:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

if bynum blows his knees again (which sounds odd, i know)

We need to “ship his ass out” for realsies.

by LAKESHOW_SC on Jul 12, 2010 12:45 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

sigh....

another fail…….of course it’s a mobile fail…….so, not as bad.

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Jul 12, 2010 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Do this all the time, when I'm away from home.

"You know how a guy can make his team so much better? That’s one thing I learned from watching Jordan." - LBJ

by LakerUNLTD on Jul 12, 2010 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

What do you mean, keep track?

"You know how a guy can make his team so much better? That’s one thing I learned from watching Jordan." - LBJ

by LakerUNLTD on Jul 12, 2010 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah....

you are about to get a temporary ban.

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Jul 12, 2010 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep, double posts

Equate to 5 business days of banishment.

"You know how a guy can make his team so much better? That’s one thing I learned from watching Jordan." - LBJ

by LakerUNLTD on Jul 12, 2010 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

HTML Fails.

Equate to a week of banishment.

Sweet 16

by bluexfalcon on Jul 12, 2010 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

@#$%

"You know how a guy can make his team so much better? That’s one thing I learned from watching Jordan." - LBJ

by LakerUNLTD on Jul 12, 2010 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of fails...

Epic fail at 21 seconds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5emL3clDdKg

"You know how a guy can make his team so much better? That’s one thing I learned from watching Jordan." - LBJ

by LakerUNLTD on Jul 12, 2010 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

2late at night (morning), too lazy. F it, I'm gone. Foreal.

"You know how a guy can make his team so much better? That’s one thing I learned from watching Jordan." - LBJ

by LakerUNLTD on Jul 12, 2010 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Needed to show them the full web address, because people don’t trust links like this!

"You know how a guy can make his team so much better? That’s one thing I learned from watching Jordan." - LBJ

by LakerUNLTD on Jul 12, 2010 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don't know if I should click..

Haha, the music didn’t even start! YOU FAIL

Sweet 16

by bluexfalcon on Jul 12, 2010 12:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don't lie, you got rolled.

"You know how a guy can make his team so much better? That’s one thing I learned from watching Jordan." - LBJ

by LakerUNLTD on Jul 12, 2010 1:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

good thing he stuck to football

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Jul 12, 2010 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

godamn

my internet has been acting like a bitch today. The wifi stops working and on the desktop, pages just dont load after 15 minutes so I have to reset the modem.

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Jul 12, 2010 12:55 AM PDT reply actions  

I know. Scrub.

"You know how a guy can make his team so much better? That’s one thing I learned from watching Jordan." - LBJ

by LakerUNLTD on Jul 12, 2010 12:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Haha

My connection is fine. =]

That’s why I pull host.

Sweet 16

by bluexfalcon on Jul 12, 2010 12:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I tried everything

reseting the routers, checking cables, changing encryption keys. Damn thing still doesnt work. Now I will have to fork over 200 dollars to get geek squad come in a few days to fix it. I hate computers.

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Jul 12, 2010 12:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ouch.

I went outside to my NID, ran some tests and such. Found out the problem was internal.

Long story short..

Alarm System didn’t have DSL Filter

Sweet 16

by bluexfalcon on Jul 12, 2010 1:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ive had at least 3 or 4 internet fails that required geek squad over the past two years

this sucks

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Jul 12, 2010 1:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Damn.

To think, I’ll be applying to work there after the Fall semester.

What have they said about your connection?

Sweet 16

by bluexfalcon on Jul 12, 2010 1:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

not much

they cant really identify the problem over the phone or anything so theyll send someone over to look at it and charge $$$.

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Jul 12, 2010 1:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

a 400 mile drive isnt that long

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Jul 12, 2010 1:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I could bike there. I think.

It’s downhill once I get to Santa Clarita. LOL

Sweet 16

by bluexfalcon on Jul 12, 2010 1:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

that cat knows my pain

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Jul 12, 2010 12:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

You want eyes?

Here, come get ’em!

Turn up the volume LOUD first…

The half-crazed ramblings of a Lakers fanatic living in Japan...

by With Malice on Jul 12, 2010 3:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

we really do LOVE our cats here at SS&R, don't we? LOL

"i remember one time,we was playing basketball,and we was winning the game,it was so competitive,he broke a piece of lead from a table,and he threw it and it went right through his heart and he died right on the court" - Ron Artest on wonderful childhood memories.

by eLrEiEc on Jul 12, 2010 6:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

same thing happened to me yesterday...

pages just wouldn’t load. it started working after i restarted my computer though.

Formerly known as "akb24b"

"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."

"Lets go for for it again"- Kobe Bryant, 2010 Championship ceremony.

"The NBA Apocalypse has occurred, and it's our fault."- C.A. Clark

by LakerAce on Jul 12, 2010 2:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

So it will all be over soon then

FINALLY!
Then we can move on and spend that $1.8 million that’s left of the MLE on a backup big or guard.

You made us proud Lake Show! 2009 and 2010 BACK 2 BACK CHAMPS!

by sumo390 on Jul 12, 2010 1:19 AM PDT reply actions  

Are you serious?

176 comments since 11:54 p.m.? Does nobody work anymore? Or are you guys on break?

by Julio Nievas on Jul 12, 2010 1:25 AM PDT reply actions  

Laker fans have no physically or mentally limiting boundaries.

by shoang1993 on Jul 12, 2010 2:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

What is this "Work" you speak of????

Great players win games. Great teams win championships.

by Busboys4me on Jul 12, 2010 2:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

lmao

"They need security in the world, Craig!"

by Tuna Helper on Jul 12, 2010 3:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

the drama and suspense is killing all of us...haha

Today's sports media excels at over-reaction to a single event and specializes in hyperboles. But hey, it's that or my biochem textbook...

by Mike1204 on Jul 12, 2010 2:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think, the main contention here is that Fisher wants two years.

Before the 08-09 season, even, when asked about when he wanted to retire, he said he wanted to be under contract through the ‘11 offseason as he wanted to remain President of the NBPA and guide them through the CBA negotiations, ensuring the players don’t fold again.

If the Lakers only sign him to a 1-year contract, it’s highly unlikely he gets picked up on a new contract next year with the CBA looming, and having a Free Agent who is possibly retiring as a player as the President of the NBA Players’ Association isn’t exactly the best idea.

Hence, I propose the Lakers just give the man a two-year deal. I’m thinking, maintain the $2.75 million offer for the first year, and make the second year a $1.5 million dollar player option. It’s a win-win, as it ensures Fisher’s position is secure enough for him to remain President of the NBAPA; meanwhile with a lockout likely looming, it’s probable that the Lakers will not have to pay a significant chunk of that second year. Even if no lockout occurs and the Lakers have to pay the full second year, it’s only a few hundred k more than a minimum contract, certainly reasonable for a 5-time champion who by then will likely be coming off the bench.

2 years’, $4.15 million (with the second year being a player option) seems fair enough. It’s about the same amount in total Shannon Brown’s last contract paid him (though he opted out of the second year, obviously).

If Kobe doesn't make his teammates better, how on Earth does Adam Morrison have two rings!?

"The NBA Apocalypse has occurred, and it's our fault." C.A Clark on the Miami Heat

"LeBron James does not want the pressure of greatness, only the rewards" - shaqforthree

"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure."

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by Saurav A. Das on Jul 12, 2010 2:18 AM PDT reply actions  

great point taking in account of his other role of being president of nbapa

"i remember one time,we was playing basketball,and we was winning the game,it was so competitive,he broke a piece of lead from a table,and he threw it and it went right through his heart and he died right on the court" - Ron Artest on wonderful childhood memories.

by eLrEiEc on Jul 12, 2010 7:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

hahahahahahaha

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Jul 12, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Double-rec

If Kobe doesn't make his teammates better, how on Earth does Adam Morrison have two rings!?

"The NBA Apocalypse has occurred, and it's our fault." C.A Clark on the Miami Heat

"LeBron James does not want the pressure of greatness, only the rewards" - shaqforthree

"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure."

http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/ - Visit, and be loved. Troll, and die a painful death. =]]

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by Saurav A. Das on Jul 12, 2010 3:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yup. Just "LA. Got Fish."

The half-crazed ramblings of a Lakers fanatic living in Japan...

by With Malice on Jul 12, 2010 4:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

new bumper sticker, replace "milk" with...

“got fish?”

"The Lakers are ninja negotiators. Straight. fuckin. ninjas." -rshinsec
"This isn't an apocalypse. It’s a motherf***ing war." -Hdg23

by deadmuse on Jul 12, 2010 5:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

this

never get’s old.

"E-Coaches are heavy in here tonight! Take E-Sasha and put him on the E-bench on your fantasy league, that’ll show him!" - Jevon O

by altree on Jul 12, 2010 6:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

recd

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Jul 12, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

can someone please explain to me what this lockout thing is all about?? i know…. i fail at life

by javon on Jul 12, 2010 4:11 AM PDT reply actions  

Truth

For me its the consistent inconsistency that concerns me - PAGFL
It's always AMMO Time, in spirit- DexterFishmore

by 99bc99 on Jul 12, 2010 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

yes

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Jul 12, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

rec

Czheck Productions
My Instrumentals
This shameful display of selfishness and betrayal by one of our very own has shifted our "motivation" to previously unknown and previously never experienced levels.

by Czheck on Jul 12, 2010 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh man, that basketball

Used to be the head of a waiter that angered the Shaw…

For me its the consistent inconsistency that concerns me - PAGFL
It's always AMMO Time, in spirit- DexterFishmore

by 99bc99 on Jul 12, 2010 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

The current

Collective Bargaining Agreement between the players and the owners is ending next year. If they can’t come to an agreement by the end of the year, there may be a lockout for the 2011 season. The owners are really in their shorts about the salaries players are getting and want to change the rules on the length and size of contracts. Obviously, that is not in the players interests so they will probably fight it. Its going to be a dogfight as always between the union of workers, or this case players, and the owners of the organizations. We’ll see what happens.

Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Jevon O

by Marty Mart on Jul 12, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Link?

Has it been made official?

by jnguyen0390 on Jul 12, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not really, he got a good offer.

Well up from the initial one.

"During Game 1 of the NBA finals, Chris Rock joked around. Kobe Bryant completely ignored Rock. Bryant was practically a zombie 100 percent absorbed into the game.
He is not a nice guy.
He sits on the bench with eyes narrowed and his lips tightly sealed. He scoffs and yells at his opponents and his teammates for short comings.
People hate him for this.
That’s why those people will never win NBA championships."

by Saurav A. Das on Jul 13, 2010 3:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds like LA is holding the door open for Fisher

They know his legs only got so many good miles left. Shame to loose such a leader, Jackson should dress him in a tie and put him on the bench as a coach.

by Blazzerker on Jul 12, 2010 2:22 PM PDT reply actions  

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