Lakers-Celtics Game Three: Fishkrieg!
by DexterFishmore on Jun 9, 2010 3:00 PM PDT
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There's a phrase that gets tossed about a lot in hoops discourse. When scouts or commentators are looking to build up a certain player, they'll often say that he's "not afraid to take the big shot." It's a horribly overused descriptor, which you can confirm with a quick Google search of those words. When I ran it through the search engine, the first three hits involving NBA players applied the phrase to noted clutch performers Rashard Lewis, Chris Duhon and Anthony Roberson. Basically, if you've ever made a crucial bucket in any game at any level, someone somewhere has gone on record with the opinion that a big shot is something you're not afraid to take.
In a world where words actually mean something, that description would be reserved for Derek Fisher and a select few like him. Last night, in the fourth quarter of Lakers' high-wire victory in Game Three, he demonstrated how to play without fear. He stepped into a moment of history and owned it completely. In circumstances bristling with pressure, Fish put his own reputation on the line in a way that, had he failed, would've made him an easy target for his longtime critics (like me). Instead, his crunch-time play broke the Boston Celtics in two.
Rewind to the nine-minute mark of the fourth quarter. The Celtics, by then, had chipped a 17-point deficit down to a single point. The Lakers had scored only one point in their previous four possessions. The Boston defense had taken away nearly everything the Lakers were trying to do. Kobe Bryant was being kept out of the paint and reduced to long, challenged jumpers. The Laker bigs were being denied the ball in the post and harassed when they had it. About 17 minutes of play had elapsed since the Lakers had generated any second-chance points. Ron Artest, chastened by his miserable Game Two, was no longer even looking to shoot. Slowly, achingly, the Laker offense was being asphyxiated by some 2008-caliber Boston D.
From that point forward, each team had the ball 16 times, and the Lakers outscored the Celtics 23 to 17. That's 1.44 points per possession scored down the stretch, against a defense that coming into last night's game had limited its playoff opponents to 1.03 points per trip. In those 16 possessions, Fish shot 5 for 7 and scored 11 points, good for a True Shooting mark of 79%. Both in terms of volume (the number of shots Fish was able to find for himself) and efficiency (how well he converted those shots into points), it was a stunning eruption.
Let's say that rather than taking seven shots in nine minutes, Fish had deferred to Kobe and Pau Gasol. Let's say he pulled the ball back out and dished it off to one of the Lakers' go-to scorers. If he'd done so and the Lakers had gone on to lose the game, none of us would be here today complaining that Fish didn't shoot enough. Blame would fall to Kobe or Pau, or the defense for giving up a huge lead. Fish's play would be an afterthought.
My point being, Fish didn't have to assume the offensive burden. He could easily have stepped back from the moment, the spotlight and the world-class shitstorm that would've rained down had the Lakers lost after leading by 17. And what if he'd fired up seven shots and made only two of them? His very future as a Laker would be called into question even more than it already has.
Faced with this decision tree, Fish climbed onto the branch that brought the greatest risk and greatest reward. He eschewed the options that guaranteed blamelessness and instead put his own ass on the line. In doing so, he flipped a giant middle finger at people like me who've been riding him all year long.
Some further notes from a glorious Tuesday night....
Kevin Garnett - played a game I didn't think he had in him. And actually, I don't think he's at all likely to do it again. The situation reminds me of Shaquille O'Neal's performance in Game Four of the 2004 Finals. After looking old and spent in the Lakers' Game Three loss in that series, Shaq dialed back the clock to hang 36 points and 20 rebounds on the Detroit Pistons in a close contest that the Lakers unfortunately dropped. After the game, Phil Jackson - and I've been trying to find the exact quote, with no success - said something like, "It's a shame we wasted Shaq's huge night in a loss, since we know we can't get that from him often anymore." If I were a Celtic fan, God forbid, I'd be feeling the same way about KG right now.
The Lakers' perimeter defense - was super improved from the crapfest we saw in Game Two. Rasheed Wallace and, especially, Ray Allen missed some open looks, but they also enjoyed way fewer of them. Laker defenders were more disciplined about sticking tight to shooters around the arc. It wasn't just the guards. Artest and even Pau Gasol got into the action by closing out quickly on the perimeter.
Artest - learned a lesson from Game Two: if you're not making shots, don't burn the possessions. That's a nice adjustment. He didn't shoot appreciably better in Game Three, but whereas he used 20% of Laker possessions when he was on the floor in Game Two, his usage rate dropped to 12% last night. (Thanks to HoopData for the numbers.)
The Laker bench - was quite decent for the second time this series. Last night they contributed 22 points on 12 shots and got good rebounding work from Lamar Odom, Luke Walton and Jordan Farmar. Luke, as he always seems to do, helped get the ball to the right place at the right time. They didn't outplay the Celtic reserves, but that's OK. So long as the bench is holding its own, the Lakers will be fine.
The Laker pick and roll - is something I really wish we'd see more of. Especially when stagnation sets in, as it did in the third quarter last night, the P&R is a tasty way to get matchup advantages and make the defense shift and rotate. Dial it up, Phil!
Game Four - could well be a letdown. As mentioned yesterday in our game preview, twice in 2009 the Lakers won a Game Three on the road after splitting the first two at Staples. On both occasions, however, the Lakers more or less mailed in Game Four. Not to end this piece on a downer or anything, but now that home-court advantage is once again safe and sound, I think it more likely than not that the Lakers take their foot off the gas on Thursday night. I'd love to be every bit as wrong about this as I've been about Derek Fisher.
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I got a feeling that Kobe is due a big game.
He has struggled a little bit with his shot the last two games. Im hoping he can return to the form he was in during the phoenix series. If he does get hot in game four, look for us to steal another W in Boston. If he is still a little off, I think the Lakers will mail it in, as you said.
"I work my ass off every day in practice. How many other guys can say the same thing? Not many. I'm fighting against becoming soft. That's the worse thing you can say to a basketball player." - Dennis Rodman
i hope kobe drops a historic 70 plus points on the celtics floor. turn their home into a grave.
"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."
and out rebounds
and out steals, out blocks….
just kobe doing work.
by lakerlover2by4 on Jun 9, 2010 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
of cos he'll out rebound all the celtics team
because they won’t have many defensive rebounds to grab :)
ever since this series started, i have been dreaming about kobe dropping 64+
in a 20/21 fg%, 10/10 3pt%, 14 fts+
"You are asking me if LeBron is going to New York?, I’m trying to tell you in a polite way, I don’t give a shit"
me too. badly! i woke up in the middle of the night (last night) having some kind of dream/nightmare involving the celts and lakers. lol. this fucking series has be tense.
"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."
He's tired.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jun 9, 2010 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Possibly, but I think if he was he woudl try that much harder to end this in the next 2 games.
The journey is almost over, no giving in now. Im expecting a high percentage night from Kobe in game 4. Knowing his work ethic, I woudl of think he would have taken a “few” extra jump shots after practice.
"I work my ass off every day in practice. How many other guys can say the same thing? Not many. I'm fighting against becoming soft. That's the worse thing you can say to a basketball player." - Dennis Rodman
I think it more likely than not that the Lakers take their foot off the gas on Thursday night.
It may not even end up being so much the Lakers take their foot off the gas as it would be the Celtics realizing they better win game 4 lest they watch the Lakers celebrate number 16 on their home court. Ray Allen won’t go 0-fer again. Of course, KG won’t drop 25 on the Lakers again. so who knows.
Fisher was awesome last night in the 4th. He really did become The Closer for us, and carried the Lakers to victory when things seemed to be headed in the wrong direction. He always seems to pop up every now and then to snatch a crutial victory for the Lakers. The Lakers can’t lean on him if they want to win the series…but for one night, at least, Fisher was ready to step in when Kobe was cold and Pau was shut down. And man, are we thankful he did!
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good point. It may be a case of 6 of one and a half dozen of the other.
Your pic throws me off when I see it. Too much green for this time of year.
well
your not the only one who was beating up on Fisher this season :)
Im still surprised about how that game finished. I really thought we were done in that 4th quarter. The Celtics defense forced our bigs out of their normal positions for scoring/ post moves and turned Kobe into a bailout shooter.
As for game 4, yeah Im a little bit concerned about how we will play considering some of the eggs we have laid in the past, but this time I think they will try to go for the jugular because they realize if the Celtics win game 4, they are back in almost the same position they were after game 2 and if the Celtics win sunday as well, they go back to LA trailing 3-2 which is not a good position to be in for us despite HCA given the Celtics exceptional play on the road. So hopefully they wont take game 4 for granted.
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
I do think the Lakers will play with an urgency equal to the Celtics in game 4
Trap game, possibly, as much as people think Kobe will break out, and although Artest has been decent, Pierce will have a game in this series along the way.
by rickfox on Jun 9, 2010 4:05 PM PDT reply actions
agreed
I think it’s going to be an extremely well-contested game. If they lose, I’m certain the Celtics can’t come back, not against this Lakers team.
Bring it.
someone needs to do this for fisher's 1 on 3 layup:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNgfDZTjp1Q
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
Pick & roll.
Yes, please.
I am not so sure about the Lakers letting up, even though there is clearly a history of them doing just that. But here’s a few reasons it might be different this series:
- Going into relaxed-mode against Houston and Denver last year isn’t as dangerous- seriously, were there any doubts Los Angeles would win either series?- as it would be against a veteran team like Boston, and I am sure the Lakers know that.
- The finish line is near, so much they can taste it. That in itself should energize them.
- A chance to close out a sixth consecutive series on the road, including all four this year.
- A chance to close out in Boston, where they were embarrassed two years ago.
I'm here to talk about the past.
yep. i definitely think there wouldn't be as much "lax" as we expected from denver/houston
when the lakers can smell it, they go for it (ie. orlando last year)
it doesn’t necessarily mean they’ll win it, but i highly doubt they’ll mail it in.
I tend to agree
I don’t like saying it, but I think the Lakers biggest obstacle isn’t going to be complacency in game 4, it’s going to be the referees
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Rivers is working the refs about as hard as he possibly can, it's hard to imagine there won't be some influecne
complaining about Paul Pierce’s fouls, instant replay, Fisher’s “flopping”
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
I do find it amusing that Rivers complains about "LA's moving screens"...
Oh the irony that a team with KG on it’s roster would do so.
The half-crazed ramblings of a Lakers fanatic living in Japan...
yes, he's being entirely selective in his criticism
and he’s doing a very good job at it. The best way to criticize the officials in this type of situation is to say as much as you can without getting fined, because it sounds like you’re correct in your assertions.
I hope the officials see past what Rivers is saying and consider his ulterior motives. They’ve done a poor job calling the series overall, but they haven’t really favored one team or the other.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
That's the one blessing...
They’ve done a poor job calling the series overall, but they haven’t really favored one team or the other.
It’s inevitable that there’ll be some sections of the fanbase that’s down that don’t see it that way.
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I don't really even believe in working the officials
i’m pretty sure year after year…they’re used to this.
if they were using young officials, i’d understand. but the ones for the finals tend to be the most “experienced”.
yet its plain as day
that the officials are influenced by loud home crowds, super star players, etc. There’s a reason that veteran coaches, like Phil, speak to the media about officiating and it’s not because they are just trying to vent.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
I do think the refs may start to pay closer attention to screens now...
but i don’t think they’ll only focus on LA’s screens.
Really, closer scrutiny of screens would hurt the celtics more…
I could definitely see that
You want more attention on screens, Doc? You got it! That’s what I would do if I were a ref.
Given the league-wide observation that the Celtics set tons of moving screens, I’m not sure Doc’s comments were the wisest.
I think it was essentially an act of desperation.
Game 4... foot on the throat.
I’m hoping that LA really come out aggressive in game 4. It’s an opportunity to put the hated rival under the hammer in a massive way.
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It would be awesome if we can close them out on their home court
let me have my wishful thinking while I can, alright? :p
not a good chance of that happening, it's going 6 or 7
by rickfox on Jun 9, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
yea didn't you hear what pierce said?
this shit ain’t coming back to LA
by lakers are trouble on Jun 10, 2010 1:10 AM PDT up reply actions
my special edit of Fisher's 4th quarter performance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlXjXedbCOA
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
that is fantasic, shaqfor3, I said it yesterday before the game, Paul Pierce is fucking with the
wrong guys this time.
by rickfox on Jun 9, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
hey man, this is a great edit!
can I ask what program you use to edit? You got some nice things going on. How do you compile footage and all that stuff?
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Sony Vegas Pro 9
I basically download the clips off youtube using a keepvid.com, then import the clips into the editing program, and add filters/ etc.
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
holy shit man
that is the sickest non-reaction reaction i have ever seen. fish is THE FUCKIN MAN. great work dude awesome video
by lakers are trouble on Jun 10, 2010 1:13 AM PDT up reply actions
I hope no one is really expecting alot of Fisher drives like that again
especially not off of the 1-2 P&R. The Celtics started switching on that once Fisher hit the 4 shots (but before the layup). I expect they’ll be ready for that if LA tries it at all. If anything, I think LA should still try it so we can then force a Kobe post-iso on Rondo.
"The problem actually is that PER is a extra-long, double high wagon load of horse crap." - timbo (7/3/09)
couldn't you pull that switch with Artest, Odom or Vujacic on Rondo, instead, the
principle works the same.
by rickfox on Jun 9, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
it'd be nice
exploiting matchups is one thing I feel that the Lakers have done extremely poorly this series, and really, is a fault of the triangle as a whole.
They do it sometimes, usually off of a aborted fast break, but I rarely see any effort to do it in a half court set.
"The problem actually is that PER is a extra-long, double high wagon load of horse crap." - timbo (7/3/09)
I mean... really?
Post a game that was most definitely “Fisher’s moment”, to come out and say when questioned about what Fish does to draw fouls,
What? Besides flopping? He doesn’t do a lot extra.
He could have just deflected the question, but now it’s a soundbite that will no doubt be used as motivation fodder.
I agree rf. He’s feeling the pressure.
Do have to say tho’, my opinion of Doc has changed over the past few years. I used to think he was just a body, just someone who was lucky enough to be “there”.
There’s an element of luck-in-the-moment… but he is a good coach. Just wish he didn’t say this about Fish.
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you went to university, right? It's like when you prove your professor wrong in front of the
class, and so he puts you on his ‘fuck with his shit’ list
Lakers beat Doc at his own game, and it just eats him up. Just my opinion.
by rickfox on Jun 9, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Well we will just have to see if the bitching works
Doc’s real problem is that Artest is treating Pierce like a jailhouse bitch
And on flops...
Is Derek Fisher really big enough to knock Glen Davis on his ass?
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The thing is he has to protect his own flopper
who has been gathering fouls like money.
If Pierce doesn’t have several big games, the Celts can’t do it.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jun 9, 2010 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone noticed that Artest is rarely brought up as one of the players in foul trouble?
he’s had to go the bench early in all 3 games and actually fouled out in game 2 yet there is more talk about Kobe, Lamar and even Fish fouls.
Our goal is to win the championship, not just the first game
-KG's recent nightmare
he's physical, this isn't the first time in his career, he's had foul trouble
by rickfox on Jun 9, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
i know but he had some ridiculous calls like everyone
Our goal is to win the championship, not just the first game
-KG's recent nightmare
I just hope he gives Ray Allen another knee to the thigh, so Ray goes 0-13 again.
wont happen again, but it would be nice.
"I work my ass off every day in practice. How many other guys can say the same thing? Not many. I'm fighting against becoming soft. That's the worse thing you can say to a basketball player." - Dennis Rodman
well, the real point of the game is scoring buckets
and when players who are primary reasons why each team scores buckets, they get more attention.
"The problem actually is that PER is a extra-long, double high wagon load of horse crap." - timbo (7/3/09)
the Celtics are blabbing about their foul trouble because they're down in the series
but really it’s hurt both teams. If Kobe wasn’t almost completely removed from game 2, things might have gone down differently down the stretch.
Not to mention Lamar has gotten no respect from officials either almost all series.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
and if Ray Allen didn't get in trouble in game 1, maybe he hits five 3's and the game changes
we don’t live in a hypothetical world
by rickfox on Jun 9, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
True...
But I think LA won game 3 in the first Q.
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yes, but Lamar was in foul trouble too that entire game
that’s my whole point. Foul trouble has affected both teams, but the Celtics are the ones trying to gain position from the referees because they are down in the series.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
For sure. Like the refs and Bob Barker say...
“Have your Finals spayed and neutered.”
By the way, Skeets was pretty “snarky” with us today for our comments today. Is it possible to get banned from the Jones?
I find this kinda ironic:
“I think it was a ton of moving screens they got away with,” Rivers said the day after the Celtics’ 91-84 loss to the Lakers in Game 3 put the Celtics behind 2-1 in the best-of-7 series. “As far as off-the-ball action … you are not allowed to hold, you are not allowed to bump, and you are not allowed to impede progress. I read that this morning, and I’m positive of it. So, you know, when that happens it has to be called.”
considering they have one of the biggest illegal screen setters in the NBA. I dont have a gripe with the other things Rivers criticized, the refs have been very streaky in this series but it just seemed strange for him to complain about this.
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
wouldnt you complain if your team layed an egg first game at home
"When I dunk, I put something on it. I want the ball to hit the floor before I do."
-Darryl Dawkins
by njzfinest5013 on Jun 9, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Or the neck shots Fisher was taking...
When Allen pushed him. Seriously, it’s been physical, and his organization has prided itself with physical play. Part of the fall out is fouls are called. I can’t believe the complaints there.
For me its the consistent inconsistency that concerns me - PAGFL
It's always AMMO Time, in spirit- DexterFishmore
I've seen a lot of that
Tons of bumps, pushes and pretty clear fouls against Fish, just discernably more severe than the ticky-tack BS called in this series often. I’ve actually been surprised none of it has been called.
I said it during the game thread
But Ray Allen gets away with alot of bodying on D and pushing on offense without getting called for it. I think game 1 would be more common if they called him for a lil bit of the stuff he does during the game
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also in the orlando series?
i read somewhere that they were talkin about how dwight howard was hackin them up too? seriously..for a team that talks about how physical they are, they sure seem to cry alot when other teams get physical with them.
by lakers are trouble on Jun 10, 2010 1:26 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 10, 2010 1:27 AM PDT up reply actions
i cant remember where i saw it
but i think Doc had a interview where he stated Phil was working the refs and every game one of his Big 3 was in foul trouble, so maybe it was time for him to start working the refs.
I hope our guys apply the pressure tomorrow
I don’t want to see any let up at all. It’s been a long, hard season, but victory is within reach.
Someone posted that Kobe is due a big game, and I would agree. I’d also look to Pau being back to his normal self. If we play perimeter defense, and run our offense instead of letting it go stagnant, I see us looking very good. Pound the ball inside, Go Lakers!
For me its the consistent inconsistency that concerns me - PAGFL
It's always AMMO Time, in spirit- DexterFishmore
One could argue Paul Pierce is too...
However if he didn’t have one, I wouldn’t complain.
It's a 2 point Sacramento lead. We're down to 7 seconds. Bryant putting a move on Christie. Rebound O'Neal. Came up short. Horry for the win. Pretty sure we all know how it ends.
Pierce has averaged less than 20 points per for the playoffs...
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Pierce has lost a step too
He’s not the same player he was in 2008. And now he has Artest on him. So, I can see some reasons why he wouldn’t be due as much as Kobe. That said, Kobe doesn’t exactly light up this offense that is very organized and committed to taking away his game. So, I’m not sure Kobe is exactly due either.
i dunno if he'll have a big game.
artest can keep him in check. much like when they played cleveland and lebron pretty much had him in check that whole series. granted he doesn’t have to guard ron like he did lebron but that makes it even more surprising that he has been unable to get it going.
by lakers are trouble on Jun 10, 2010 1:29 AM PDT up reply actions
It's a different kind of pressure for Doc.
Let’s face it, Indiana, Philadelphia, and New Jersey were- for the most part- just happy to be in the Finals (2000-02). Boston clearly does not fall into that category, and seeing it slip away- while enduring the taste of his own medicine- must not feel comfortable at all. You can see it in his face, and hear it in his voice, that lovely thing called desperation.
I'm here to talk about the past.
more funny quotes from Artest
from Kevin DIng’s twitter :
KevinDing: Artest praised Big Baby’s skills and asked if he is 300 pounds. Told Davis would argue that, Artest said: “OK, 299.”
is the game 3 all access video already out?
if so, anybody has a link
"You are asking me if LeBron is going to New York?, I’m trying to tell you in a polite way, I don’t give a shit"
conventional wisdom says the celtics, in a must-win game, will come out with more energy than the lakers. but that also seemed to be the case early in the first quarter of game 3, and the lakers withstood their run. that said, i am going out on a limb and predicting a lakers victory in game 4. why? ‘cuz fuck it, that’s why.
"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."
we are a humble team, we will grant his wishes
"You are asking me if LeBron is going to New York?, I’m trying to tell you in a polite way, I don’t give a shit"
im expecting a monster kobe, just like i just told you above
"You are asking me if LeBron is going to New York?, I’m trying to tell you in a polite way, I don’t give a shit"
I have a gut-feeling on that too...
Viscerally-speaking, I expect Kobe to have a big night out.
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If it were any other team I'd be in total agreement
but Kobe’s yet to really prove he can slice this Boston defense up so…
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
That's true, but when Kobe is on nobody can defend him
We saw that in Phoenix. Not saying Phoenix is up to Boston’s caliber, but the shots he was making against Phoenix he can make against Boston. Hopefully it will be more like game 1, when he did carve up Boston.
For me its the consistent inconsistency that concerns me - PAGFL
It's always AMMO Time, in spirit- DexterFishmore
I did say it was a "visceral feeling"... not based on anything in particular other than 'gut'.
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Detroit is my example that it can be done and would with enough experience
I thought Kobe struggled mightily versus Detroit in 2004 only to be able to have his way with them 2 years later in the regular season. The change I saw was his adjustments to Tayshaun and the Pistons generally. He seemed to just figure it out. It did take time and I do think Boston is even better defensively (which is rather ridiculous because Detroit was an amazing defensive team in 2004 and 2005).
I don’t know that this series is when that adjustment will happen or that it’s even possible with a defense this good.
Im not expecting a huge poin total from Kobe.
Just his normal 30 – 40 points, but Im expecting him going somewhere between 50 – 60 % from the field. He gets us out to a double digit lead, gets everyone else involved and the W comes relatively eay as we are so efficient from the offensive end.
In Kobe We Tust.
"I work my ass off every day in practice. How many other guys can say the same thing? Not many. I'm fighting against becoming soft. That's the worse thing you can say to a basketball player." - Dennis Rodman
**Trust
"I work my ass off every day in practice. How many other guys can say the same thing? Not many. I'm fighting against becoming soft. That's the worse thing you can say to a basketball player." - Dennis Rodman
Dex I don't know
maybe you have a point about Lakers maybe taking their foot off the gas but I don’t think I will count on it.
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be committed against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the Limelight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
Derek Fisher
I’ve always been a big Derek Fisher fan. He doesn’t put up big numbers and he may be a step slow defensively but he’s one of the smartest players in the league both offensively and defensively and he’s at his best in the tough moments in important games. Some players can’t handle pressure moments—he (like Robert Horry as well) thrives on them. He’s sort of to the Lakers like Dennis Johnson was to the Celtics.
I think the real drama in this series is whether Kobe gets Finals MVP...
I feel like he’s trying to eke out enough performance to clinch it while still playing the right way enough to win. The Celtics are tough and I give them plenty of credit, but I feel that is the main tension in the series.
I’m a big Kobe fan, but I do get the sense he does play for metrics once in a while. I do feel winning is the most important thing to him and that much of his aggressiveness is his strong belief in himself, but I just get this sense this series. I also recognize there has been significant ball denial by the Celtics from getting the ball to our bigs.
for real?
Kobe being the mvp is this team’s entire identity. Pau is playing very well, but if the man was asked to score 30 a night he wouldn’t be able to, especially without Kobe setting him up on numerous occasions.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Who gives a shit about who gets the MVP!
I just want the Lakers to win for crying out loud.
Hell I wouldnt mind if Morrison got the MVP, just as long as the Lakers get 16
Where do the Lakers rank in my life? I say Lakers, sex,...and breathing
Duh! AMMO has earned it!
"Prejudice not founded on reason cannot be removed by argument." - Samuel Johnson
Don't kill the messenger
I agree. I’m merely musing about something that I see going on. And please note, I’m suggesting that we’re gonna win so you should be happy about that. :P
by USA!USA!USA! on Jun 10, 2010 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions
I hear Fish is gonna be on Lopez Tonight
if that’s the sort of thing that interests anyone.
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Jennifer?
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tough crowd
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Is he flying home for it or is via satellite?
"Prejudice not founded on reason cannot be removed by argument." - Samuel Johnson
game 4?
what are you guys’ thoughts? will we win? will the refs give in to Doc and let the series drone on? will celtics be tired? will we be tired?
Personally
I think the Lakers pull off the unthinkable 3 game sweep in Boston and celebrate on their Home Floor….There would be no better vengeance than that..Add in Pierce saying they wont be coming back to LA and its only right they finish it in Boston
You are a witness to the Black Mamba 2010 revenge tour..Seattle, check, Utah,check, Phoenix,check.. Boston-FUCK Boston! This aint 08.Lakers repeat!
My wish as well
only question is if Lakers want it enough to actually keep the intensity up without their backs to a wall
I would have the same concern against any other team
But i dont think they will lack intensity trying to put the Celtics in a 3-1 hole. They want to embarrass them and win it on their HC and im hopin they can pull it off
You are a witness to the Black Mamba 2010 revenge tour..Seattle, check, Utah,check, Phoenix,check.. Boston-FUCK Boston! This aint 08.Lakers repeat!
Not totatally unthinkable
Only unplausabile because I think many of us think Boston is too good for that. It has happened before, 3 times in fact.
"The problem actually is that PER is a extra-long, double high wagon load of horse crap." - timbo (7/3/09)
by tandur on Jun 9, 2010 9:18 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
thats what i'd call a Boston Massacre
"I love this game, I love this team, I love this guy, I love what I do. Nothing means more to me than helping my team win" - Derrick Fisher
by igotasmanyringsaslebron on Jun 9, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
i suck at spelling, i know
"I love this game, I love this team, I love this guy, I love what I do. Nothing means more to me than helping my team win" - Derek Fisher
by igotasmanyringsaslebron on Jun 9, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Careful Dex!!
Fishkrieg sounds too much like an homage to Blitzkrieg… a tactic used by the Nazi’s, a word those at the CB are more sensitive than the German people about…. u might get banned by their overlords ; )
In Kobe we trust!
by robi s on Jun 9, 2010 9:15 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
lol I love how you hold a grudge!
You are a witness to the Black Mamba 2010 revenge tour..Seattle, check, Utah,check, Phoenix,check.. Boston-FUCK Boston! This aint 08.Lakers repeat!
Didn't Bill Simmons say Derek Fish was washed up before Game 3?
Said his nickname should be “lowtide” cause that’s how washed up he was?
Oops.
"They need security in the world, Craig!"
Game 4 is gonna be easy.
Lakers win 142 -78. HOW YOU ASK!?
Kobe gives me and everyone else that questioned and doubted him in the 1st 3 games a big f you by lighting the celtics up on 25/28 shooting, 11/13 from 3, 13/13 from the free throw line for 74 points as well as adding in 16 rebounds, 10 assists, 7 steals, and 5 blocks.
Ron Artest reminds us why he used to be a #1/2 option back in the day and drops 27 points on 8/10 shooting, 5/5 from 3, and 6/8 from the stripe.
Rajon Rondo gets shut down by Kobe and is only able to squeak in 8 points on 3/13 shooting and 5 assists.
Ray Allen pours in 6 points, triple his game 3 production on 2/11 shooting.
LET’S GO LAKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
LOL
I do think Artest is gonna join the party tomorrow night. Maybe to the tune of 4-7 from Downtown and an efficient 18 point night along with disrupting pierce again….Be on the lookout for a pierce wheelchair flop to get them fired up
You are a witness to the Black Mamba 2010 revenge tour..Seattle, check, Utah,check, Phoenix,check.. Boston-FUCK Boston! This aint 08.Lakers repeat!
Pierce will relieve Ray Allen
by going 0-12 in game 4
weren't you the one sayin
Kobe sucks every finals and he’s only had one good finals series against New Jersey
Something like that
I was saying how Kobe shoots poorly in the Finals and has never dominated a Finals like most of the other great players have
USC getting heavy sanctions
including a 2 year ban from bowl games and a loss of more than 20 football scholarships.
I would sympathize with them, but they rejected me so :P
I might change this viewpoint in the future, but not for now.
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck
damn damn damn damn damn…Bullshit bullshit bullshit…fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
You are a witness to the Black Mamba 2010 revenge tour..Seattle, check, Utah,check, Phoenix,check.. Boston-FUCK Boston! This aint 08.Lakers repeat!
damn man....a lil extreme if you ask me
fuck
You are a witness to the Black Mamba 2010 revenge tour..Seattle, check, Utah,check, Phoenix,check.. Boston-FUCK Boston! This aint 08.Lakers repeat!
maybe if they accepted me this would not have happened?
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
lol fuck..
what’s worse is nobody who was even on the team is there now…coaches included.
You are a witness to the Black Mamba 2010 revenge tour..Seattle, check, Utah,check, Phoenix,check.. Boston-FUCK Boston! This aint 08.Lakers repeat!
yeah
I dont like the idea of punishing the current team. maybe fire some of the administrators or something?? pay hefty fines??
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
Typical NCAA way of dealing with things.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Jun 9, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
yeeah that's whas so fucked up about it
Punish new and future players for something that happened in 2004….2004? 6 years ago…smh the NCAA has a fucked up way of governing things
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Yes they do.
I say in a situation like this ant USC player should be allowed to transfer penalty free.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Jun 9, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
they should cut it in half across the board
1 year ban and 10 scholarships is more than enough if anything
You are a witness to the Black Mamba 2010 revenge tour..Seattle, check, Utah,check, Phoenix,check.. Boston-FUCK Boston! This aint 08.Lakers repeat!
The Lakers have to win now...They all i have left lol
Usc on probation..White sox struggling, Georgetown got ousted in the 1st round, Da Bears sucked last season…aaah man..Sports suicide here i come lol
You are a witness to the Black Mamba 2010 revenge tour..Seattle, check, Utah,check, Phoenix,check.. Boston-FUCK Boston! This aint 08.Lakers repeat!
Your soul is better off
Not going to the University of Spoiled Children.
by USA!USA!USA! on Jun 10, 2010 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe extreme, but Kiffin has it coming....
Meanwhile Pete walks to the NFL and leaves USC hanging, just as the shit storm comes down. A shit storm that happened while he was at the helm.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Jun 9, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Hahaha...counting the minutes
and next game the Lakers are playing with house money, which should make it even more enjoyable to watch.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Jun 9, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
19 hours, 17 minutes, and 47 seconds till tipoff
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
Haha you are the D Fish of this blog!
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Jun 9, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Depends. How stoned are you?
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Jun 9, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
wow...yes it does lol
You are a witness to the Black Mamba 2010 revenge tour..Seattle, check, Utah,check, Phoenix,check.. Boston-FUCK Boston! This aint 08.Lakers repeat!
Hell yes...he may be the luckiest guy on the planet!
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Jun 9, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
"Oh my God, is that a championship ring? You, like, won that?"
“That’s right, hunny bunny.”
I'm here to talk about the past.
Patrick Ewing is rolling over in his grave
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
He's not the only one..."That's turrble"
Of course the ring has nothing on the pornstache
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Jun 9, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm speechless.
Can you believe this guy went before Brandon Roy. Hell, Jordan worked out with both of them and concluded Morrison was better.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Jun 9, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
That's perfect...
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Jun 9, 2010 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Jordan also selected Kwame Brown with a 1st pick..........
"I work my ass off every day in practice. How many other guys can say the same thing? Not many. I'm fighting against becoming soft. That's the worse thing you can say to a basketball player." - Dennis Rodman
Well there's this work thing that keeps getting in my way.
I remember reading Pat Riley’s Showtime, and he talked about how Magic almost never slept during the Finals. Not that I am comparing myself to Magic, mind you. I tried one no-look pass in my life and broke a window.
I'm here to talk about the past.
Sounds like the window lacked intangibles.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Jun 9, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Jordan was the same way with sleep
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Jun 9, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I would too. I wonder what he does with his time these days?
Jordan gambled…Magic um…well I think we have a good guess what Magic was doing instead of sleeping. At this point in Kobe’s life, I don’t really see him doing either of those.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Jun 9, 2010 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Better...he is hangin' on sesame street.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Jun 9, 2010 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions
"You may have wings little girl, but I'm still gonna dunk on you."
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Jun 9, 2010 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
See...
It’s pictures like this that make me wonder how anyone could possibly hate this guy… aside from the fact that he—ya know—has a nasty habit of destroying the hopes and dreams of other fans’ teams.
"I came back with an I-Don't-Care attitude. If I had an open shot, I was taking it."
--The Robert Horry
I bleed Purple N' Gold and Silver N' Black... because of this rare condition, I am no longer allowed to donate to the Red Cross.
by The_Power_and_the_Glory_of_Robert_Horry on Jun 10, 2010 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions
It's a lot easier to hate Kobe
when you see that image of him after the 2009 NBA Finals holding the Larry O’Brien and Finals MVP trophy with his tongue hanging out. That’s a face only Laker fans could love.
Saying "Hello With Malice" seven times will wake the dead.
You're just mad because it wasn't Lebron up there
doing it. If that was him with his tongue out, you or no other cavs fan would have no problem with it. LOL at double standards
wow....wave and wavenstein
lol My brain just short circuited due to an overload of jokes
You are a witness to the Black Mamba 2010 revenge tour..Seattle, check, Utah,check, Phoenix,check.. Boston-FUCK Boston! This aint 08.Lakers repeat!
saw an article about Kobe and sleep
He has this weird pattern of nodding off at like 9 p.m., waking up at midnight and sleeping another hour or two prior to getting up at the crack of dawn for training.
He’s an alien, it’s just harder to tell because he doesn’t look like Sam Cassell (sic).
by USA!USA!USA! on Jun 10, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions
LMFAO
LD2K just ripped off my derek fisher vid!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hShtVQxuJQ&feature=player_embedded#!
that scoundrel!!!!!
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
I think I'll subscribe to you
You’re arch91reborn, right?
Saying "Hello With Malice" seven times will wake the dead.
hahahahahaha
umm his video is umm pretty damn good lol the black and white highlights with the cuts to his Dagger drive and 1….masterpiece…and the espy in the beginning was a nice touch…You now have some competition Shaqfor3!!
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shaqfor3?
You’re arch91? I remember that guy used to hang out in lalousse24’s channel. Too bad lalousse got greedy.
Or so I heard.
Who am I? An old female zebra bleeding purple and gold.
Reply fail
This [or that] post is meant to be a reply for WaveOcean’s:
You’re arch91reborn, right?
Who am I? An old female zebra bleeding purple and gold.
by Jovi Siagian on Jun 10, 2010 3:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Lalousse24 didn't get greedy
His account was suspended because YouTube’s copyright policy is horsecrap. If they find any flagged videos or DMCA claims, they don’t bother checking them to make sure they hold water; they just delete them.
Saying "Hello With Malice" seven times will wake the dead.
from Gasolf to Gasolid, did anyone coin that nick yet?
"Love me or hate me; it's one or the other. Always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fade-away, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Bryant
I think ur the first.
Its the first time ive heard it.
"I work my ass off every day in practice. How many other guys can say the same thing? Not many. I'm fighting against becoming soft. That's the worse thing you can say to a basketball player." - Dennis Rodman
then he should be called Gasolid from now on
"Love me or hate me; it's one or the other. Always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fade-away, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Bryant
anyone have the presale password
for any of the presales today?
"He has to want it because talent only takes you so far. How much you want it is the difference between good and great." - Rick Neuheisel
There goes Simmons' prediction of $20 million for Phil
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/news/story?id=5268483
Idiot.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
That means
Prokhorov doesn’t likely see Phil as a viable candidate, perhaps implying the general consensus is that Phil’s coming back to LA?
"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure."
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 10, 2010 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Hey Saurav
can you get the video by CoachNick on FanShots to not AutoStart?
Thanks.
Queensbridge. Littlerock.
"Derek Fisher shouldn't be allowed to shoot unless theres fewer than one second on the shot clock" - Kelly Dwyer
Hey man
Unfortunately, asides from outright deleting it, there’s not much I can do, I can’t affect the programming aspects of the site, only CA and maybe Dex have that power.
"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure."
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 11, 2010 1:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Let's hope
It looked pretty good already with Phil saying he’s almost certainly coming back and that there’s almost no way he’d coach anywhere else. I’d like to see something like a 3 year extension at 8M a year, coach’s option to opt out after 2. Still, any news along these lines is good news.
All we have to do now to be sure is pay off Phil’s doctor.
by USA!USA!USA! on Jun 10, 2010 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes and no
With Thibodeau going to Chicago, Monty Williams to New Orleans, and Scott being considered for the Cleveland job, the supply of coaches was drying up fast. With JVG unavailable, Thorn got the best choice available on the market rather than let Atlanta or the Clippers look at him.
That and Phil was always a huge long shot for anyone else to get. If LeBron was there, then maybe the possibility increases from nil to something tangible, but that’s hardly something to bet on.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Avery Johnson has the Jersey job locked up now
You are a witness to the Black Mamba 2010 revenge tour..Seattle, check, Utah,check, Phoenix,check.. Boston-FUCK Boston! This aint 08.Lakers repeat!
yes! I don't have to hear his voice no mores
Queensbridge. Littlerock.
"Derek Fisher shouldn't be allowed to shoot unless theres fewer than one second on the shot clock" - Kelly Dwyer
by bluexfalcon on Jun 10, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
hahahaha
I like Avery! always get a kick outta hearing him talk lol
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Makes my ears bleed.
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