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Ladies and Gentlemen, We Have a Series on Our Hands

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Hmm, nice of the Boston Celtics to show up to the party, hey? Unfortunately, simultaneously the Lakers decided to go on break at various extended periods throughout this Game Two (except for Lamar Odom, who's currently in Vanuatu with his wife Khloe Kardashian, and has been all Finals, but more on that later), and thus the basketball world still hasn't seen that glorious display of perfectly matched poetry on the hardwood that this series has the potential to provide.

The result of the Celtics' showing up like the hardworking intern while the Lakers' showing up lazy and often taking smoke breaks like the veteran manager who can no longer get promoted was a 103-94 beating at the hands of the hated Green. Who woulda figured?

A few short-ish (by my standards) points after the jump.

Star-divide

  • Rajon Rondo is GOOD. It should go without saying, considering how he's dominated the playoffs the last two seasons in a row, as well as being one of the league leaders in assists this season, but he is still underrated by many. He is an obscene talent, and has grown into himself as a player in a strong organisation with veteran leadership. Too bad he's wearing green and not purple, though that may be fixed in a few years...
  • Ray Allen is one of the greatest pure shooters of all time, but even for him that was a once-in-a-year performance, and the odds of it happening again in this series are highly unlikely. It's reassuring in a similar manner to the fact that in Game Three of the Finals last year the Magic needed to break NBA records for shooting percentages in both a half and a game to win, and even then they did not win in a dominating fashion - it's a peformance that's not going to win more than one game.
  • Thus, for the Celtics to win this series they need more production from Kevin Garnett (6 points, 6 assists, 4 rebounds) and Paul Pierce (10-4-4), and right now it doesn't seem possible that those two will improve much. Kevin Garnett, is, quite simply, old; and Paul Pierce has the best small forward defender in the world on him. That keeps level heads, as Rajon Rondo is not going to average a triple-double against us, nor is Ray going to hit 8 threes a game.
  • The Lakers need to rebound. Full stop. Asides from KG, the tallest Celtics player is about the same height as Lamar Odom and hangs around the perimeter a lot on offense - so why hand out 13 offensive rebounds in a game? Even when the Lakers got stops (a rare event in itself), the Celtics would get the ball back.
  • Can we please see some proper Triangle offense? Kthxbai.
  • Kobe comes, and Kobe goes. The Lakers called on him to bail them out in the final minutes, and he just didn't have it on his jumpshots. Possibly that's because he hasn't been taking many jump shots at all this series, instead getting to the hoop, and after picking up his fifth foul he was too hesitant of driving for fear of getting a charge.
  • Speaking of which, this whole series the foul calls have been BS both ways. Way too tightly refereed, removing any flow from the game, and some bizarre touch fouls where the contact was quite literally non-existent. Kobe's two charge calls particularly come to mind, the one at the end of the first half and the one that got him his fifth foul (where Big Baby was in the restricted zone, and stepped out into Kobe right as Kobe was driving), as does Garnett's fifth foul (it was just jostling for position). Not to mention the out-of-bounds call. I don't know if Lamar decided to share his pregame reefer with those refs, or what.
  • Speaking of Lamar Odom, WHERE THE HELL IS HE!?!?!?!? Seriously, he's been playing pretty subpar most of this season, and most of the playoffs, but these last two games have just been pathetic. IT'S THE FINALS, MAN! Cut the pull-up three-pointer bullshit, YOU ARE NOT A GUARD. You are a big man with a speed advantage, take it to the hoop!
  • Andrew Bynum seven blocks, Pau Gasol six.... sexy.
  • When the smallest starter on the floor leads the game in rebounds (by a significant amount, too), something's very, very wrong.
  • Heh, the one game the Lakers get a significant positive free throw differential in their favour, instead of -20 like the games in Oklahoma City and Phoenix, they lose. Go figure.
  • Though, to be fair, much of those fouls came due to the Celtics' trying to intimidate the Lakers be reinstigating their 'no easy baskets' policy and fouling every time they could when our bigs got an easy layup, as evidenced by Pau and Drew ending up with 25 free throws between them.
  • Asides from Sasha and Jordan, the Los Angeles bench was completely nonexistent, as was Derek Fisher. Kobe didn't have a particularly nice game either. In fact, the only two players to have decent games were the starting frontcourt, Pau and Drew - and even they contributed significantly to the loss in giving up too many offensive boards and not getting enough second-chance points themselves.
  • And then there's Ron Artest... what the critics predicted would happen at the start of the season has somewhat manifested. Artest has gained confidence to the point where he's trying to 'create' on offense, overdribbling a hell of a lot and taking some terrible shots, finishing 1-10 on the night as well as 3-8 from the line for 6 points. Ugly, ugly, stuff. At least he still won his matchup, though. Queensbridge is NOT happy, Ron.
  • The Lakers - all of them not just Derek - were getting absolutely wiped out on Boston screens. Some of them may have been illegal, but more than that was the simple fact that they weren't adequately communicating on the defensive end - it seemed no one was calling 'screen', particularly off-ball, as defenders consistently got caught off-guard on back screens, and with the width many of the Celtics' bigs possess, they were completely pinned while the likes of Ray Allen got open jump shots. More defensive awareness is required. This was happening in Game One, too; Ray was punishing us on pin-downs until he got in foul trouble.
  • With the touchy whistles, this series has been one dictated by foul trouble in both games. Any series where the refs are essentially dictating the majority of the factors in the games, is a bad series.
  • The Celtics were leading the Lakers by one with three minutes to go. They ended up winning by 9, courtesy of a 10-0 run. In this period, the Lakers did not work the ball inside ONCE. They relied on Kobe, Fish and Artest long-range jumpers to bring them home, and that's a recipe for disaster considering how the three were playing in the game.
  • Pau looked absolutely exhausted towards the end of the game. Lamar really needs to stay out of foul trouble, if only to stop Pau from being exhausted to the point of ineffectiveness in end-game scenarios.
  • The Celtics had more points in the paint than Los Angeles, even with a relatively weak performance from their bigs. The Lakers allowed too much penetration, particularly from Rondo, especially in transition.
  • Speaking of transition, the Lakers did not properly run back on D 90% of the time, allowing Rondo to push the ball, even out of baseline inbounds possessions, and wreak havoc on a forced but effective break.
Quite frankly, this was a failure of effort from the Lakers, influenced by foul trouble. Just as Game One was a combination of a failure of effort and foul trouble for the Celtics. Neither team has been capable, or allowed to, play all out at the same time as the other for a 48-minute game in this series, so far, and that is a disappointment. Hopefully, that will change in the pivotal Game Three.

Speaking of Game Three, going into Boston with the series tied should not be a major cause for worry, as Boston has been a better team on the road than at home all season - be it veteran experience, cockiness, whatever, the Celtics are at least as effective outside of Boston as they are in the TD Garden. Even the possibility of home-friendly whistles should not phase the Lakers, as they have played through it in several instances this postseason.

The Lakers need to come out intense, focused and tough. They need to not let up at all until the final buzzer sounds. In doing this, they will dictate the nature of the game, and it will be up to Boston to match or raise - if they are capable. And remember, whoever wins Game Three likely wins the series. Just a bit of pressure. But all LA needs to do is remember the last time they visited Boston in the postseason - both the game, and what happened after it.

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excellent points and good write up :)

We gotta man up for Game 3

Queensbridge.

"Derek Fisher shouldn't be allowed to shoot unless theres fewer than one second on the shot clock" - Kelly Dwyer

by bluexfalcon on Jun 7, 2010 3:46 PM PDT reply actions  

ditto

a good write up and no expletives for once!!

by hapless soul on Jun 7, 2010 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can PJ brainwash Shannon to never, ever, ever... ever... throw up a jump shot?

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Jun 7, 2010 4:02 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm kind of liking the idea of giving sasha more minutes on ray allen

at least he tries to stick to his man. Plus, if we have to take those jumpers, I’d rather sasha take them than shannon or jordan

by Nostance on Jun 7, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

as much as I ripped on sasha for his defense in that game in 2008, he is a better defender for allen than brown/ fisher, plus is much taller and can come off screens quicker. But please none of those idiotic reach in fouls, every time he commits one of those fouls, a puppy somewhere in the world dies.

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Jun 7, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

is it just me

or does sasha remind you of a dog when he chases his man around?

but yea, i want more sasha minutes. whatever stupid foul he commits cannot seriously be as atrocious as shannon’s defense AND offense was yesterday

by suzie-q on Jun 7, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

Shasha was instrumental to Bostons 08 championship and more minutes on Ray would be superb.

by Scal4theallstargame on Jun 7, 2010 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

and more of this from KG would be superb:

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Jun 7, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

did anybody say sasha was instrAmental in 2008?

If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose.

Just take the ball inside- LakersForDeuce and just about everybody else on SSR

by akb24b on Jun 7, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

my bad it's spelled with a "u"

If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose.

Just take the ball inside- LakersForDeuce and just about everybody else on SSR

by akb24b on Jun 7, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh gee

Thankyou for correcting me, this must mean that I’m an insignificant human being. Once again…………. Thankyou.

by Scal4theallstargame on Jun 8, 2010 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

?

i admitted you were right… not sure what you’re talking about…

If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose.

Just take the ball inside- LakersForDeuce and just about everybody else on SSR

by akb24b on Jun 8, 2010 1:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Your Welcome!!

Anything we can do that would be instrAmental to correct grammar should be appreciated!

You are a witness to the Black Mamba 2010 revenge tour..Seattle, check, Utah,check, Phoenix,check.. Boston-FUCK Boston! This aint 08.Lakers repeat!

by EmmCeee on Jun 8, 2010 1:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I figured out where Odom was yesterday

he was at my friend’s bar mitzvah and yes I took that picture:

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Jun 7, 2010 4:03 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Great job

You touched on everything. The Lakers need to try and fly through and around the screens and create contact. This may help their situation and would disrupt a huge part of Boston’s offense. Sure the Lakers may get called for fouls, though they may not. It will discourage Boston from setting screens after getting hit by Laker bodies.

Lakers need to match the physical intensity with some of their own.

by 81 Witness on Jun 7, 2010 4:03 PM PDT reply actions  

epic WIN

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Jun 7, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha!

Nice play on words.

Bottom line is this: LA has a fight on their hands.

My question is this: How many wins must The Boston Celtics get Before LA and the Media Respect us?

A few wrote us off against MIA. Check.

Many wrote us off against CLE. Check.

Many wrote us off against ORL. Check.

Some said LA would sweep Boston: Ain’t happening.

Series continues tonight, LA – and as One of the Greatest players to play the game, Magic Johnson said on ESPN last week:

“Celtics – Lakers – Raaaarrrgghhh”

GameTime!

by Celtics18and19 on Jun 8, 2010 6:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

epic fail

that was a joke.

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Jun 8, 2010 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Magic's Comments?

Yep that was funny – my youngest son still gets a kick out of it.

Now the rest that I stated was pretty legit, I think.

GameTime!

by Celtics18and19 on Jun 8, 2010 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bruce Bowen's words were heard : Push Kobe left

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/basketball/celtics/view/20100607kobe_bryant_la_fade_in_final_minutes/

Bryant shot 8-for-20 from the field and wasn’t able to get into a rhythm, as the C’s defense clamped down and forced him to his left.

"They were not letting him come back to his right hand, shoving him to the left and then going to help when he started to push the ball," Jackson said. "That changed things up for him. He still figured it out pretty well toward the end, but couldn’t complete it."

Not that Kobe has a horrible left hand, mind you, he’s just really awesome going right, and pretty good going left … so which would you choose?

"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson

by Gil Meriken on Jun 7, 2010 4:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Asides from KG, the tallest Celtics player is about the same height as Lamar Odom and hangs around the perimeter a lot on offense

Did you see the jump ball between Big Baby and Sasha that Sasha won?

Andrew Bynum seven blocks, Pau Gasol six…. sexy.

I would never believe that our bigs could get that – and LA loses.

Lamar really needs to stay out of foul trouble, if only to stop Pau from being exhausted to the point of ineffectiveness in end-game scenarios.

And Phil needs to play him a bit more, regardless of fouls… let him foul out, and tell him it’s ok if he does. But you’re right: Pau needs more rest.
Gods, I hope LO shows up in Boston.

The half-crazed ramblings of a Lakers fanatic living in Japan...

by With Malice on Jun 7, 2010 4:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Maybe we should put JP on him...

and the two can compete over who has the bigger but and less verticle

by Nostance on Jun 7, 2010 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did you hear Paul "Priscilla" Pierce's comments?

“We ain’t coming back to LA!”

The half-crazed ramblings of a Lakers fanatic living in Japan...

by With Malice on Jun 7, 2010 4:21 PM PDT reply actions  

cause they will get swept in boston

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Jun 7, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Jun 7, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not happening, no matter how Talented LA is.

Just face it, LA – you all have a fight on your hands……just think:

There is a possibility here that LA Won’t come back to Staples Center – that The Boston Celtics could very well finish this in the Garden, hoisting Banner 18.

GameTime!

by Celtics18and19 on Jun 8, 2010 6:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

lmao desecrator version 2.0 is on ESPN 710

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Jun 7, 2010 4:26 PM PDT reply actions  

huh?? lol

"You are asking me if LeBron is going to New York?, I’m trying to tell you in a polite way, I don’t give a shit"

by kb06 on Jun 7, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

he was saying to Mason or whoever

pretty soon your gonna be doing an autopsy on the Lakers season, that Doc Rivers is out coaching Phil, that the Lakers will lose game 3 in Boston, and he told them to stop being homers.

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Jun 7, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope odom comes back from his vacaction

we kinda need him for tomorrow.

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Jun 7, 2010 4:41 PM PDT reply actions  

You bring up a great point about Rondo

You always hear about Pierce, Garnett or Allen, but the truth is Rondo has been the Celtics’ best player this year. I think Pierce will play better than he has in these first two games but I’m not so sure about Garnett. Gasol called out Garnett, albeit unintentionally, before Game 2 yet Garnett was only able to muster up a meager 6/4/4 in a statement game. This doesn’t bode too well for the Celtics.

by MrBungle on Jun 7, 2010 5:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh I think it bodes very well

The fact that the C’s split with Garnett having 2 very sub par games is great! If you think he’s going to continue to play horrible, you’re in for a suprise…

by PaFish on Jun 7, 2010 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Look at it from a Celtics standpoint. KG and Pierce were no shows statistically, Gasol and Bynum combined for 13 blocks, LA had a 41-26 FT advantage and the C’s still won in LA.

by Scal4theallstargame on Jun 7, 2010 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

*scary

"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure."

Lakers - Boston:
"-The most telling sign of just how frustrating and dissapointing a night this was for the Celtics was a single (and unidentified) voice coming from their showers, which screamed out at the top of their lungs: "F*CK!"" - SLAM Online, gotta love em :)

http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/ - Visit, and be loved. Troll, and die a painful death. =]]

by Saurav A. Das on Jun 8, 2010 2:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

you could say the same thing vice versa

kobe was foul-plagued, unlikely to happen in game 3
artest shot 1-10, unlikely to happen in game 3
odom was non-existent, unlikely to happen in game 3

just saying that “what if’s” are NOT solid arguments.

If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose.

Just take the ball inside- LakersForDeuce and just about everybody else on SSR

by akb24b on Jun 7, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

THIS

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Jun 7, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I used to like Mark Price ... right now I hate him

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=16415

Rajon nailed a key jumper late that all but put the game out of reach – a shot LA is typically willing to give up.

“Tonight he was unbelievable. He made the big shot. He made the elbow shot,” said Coach Doc Rivers. "I’m thinking Mark Price is somewhere celebrating. He took a million of those shots this summer, and he didn’t hesitate, and that was my favorite play for him.

"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson

by Gil Meriken on Jun 7, 2010 5:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh by the way, if it isn't clear, Mark Price helped Rondo out with his shot

"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson

by Gil Meriken on Jun 7, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's what I was about to say

Sigh…that’s the Cavaliers for you…

Saying "Hello With Malice" seven times will wake the dead.

by WaveOcean on Jun 7, 2010 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Price would give Steve Nash a real rivalry

That’s how good a point guard and shooter he was

"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson

by Gil Meriken on Jun 7, 2010 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

He was one of our all time greats…we has a great team back in the day…but we could never beat the Bulls. And now, thanks to Price, Rondo made more free throws against the Cavs than he did against any other team. Just my luck.

Saying "Hello With Malice" seven times will wake the dead.

by WaveOcean on Jun 7, 2010 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I spent my young days near Cleveland and I remember Price's glory days...

Brad Daugherty, Hod Rod Williams, Craig Ehlo. Price was a great PG, Rondo is smart to work with him.

by Joshua S on Jun 7, 2010 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

a little bit ironic he may have helped beat his former team

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Jun 7, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Two of them. Price finished with the Magic. Irony's great....

I wonder if Price would work with Shannon Brown during the Finals?

by Joshua S on Jun 7, 2010 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

guess this means we have to respect rondo's jumper now

goodbye free safety defense, we had some good times.

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Jun 7, 2010 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even though he made the shot, it's a shot I'm sure

the lakers are okay with him taking, although it would help to have someone at least in the vicinity of Rondo when he takes that shot…

"I once convinced a woman that I was Kevin Costner, and it worked because I believed it" - Saul Goodman

by c.lobster on Jun 7, 2010 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know at least make him think someone might close out ...

"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson

by Gil Meriken on Jun 7, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm dying to see a well officiated game.

The truth of the matter is it would have been a kick-ass game 2 if Allen had been going off, if Garnett and Odom stayed on the floor, if Kobe had been allowed to play. The way that each team was feeling it (Big Baby was really intense, and you saw the Dr. J reverse dunk from Gasol!), THAT would have been the game of the series.

Instead it was a mish-mash of matching referee mistakes. The game was chaotic and no player knew where the boundary was.

All I ask is give us some well officiated games. Even the first game was too touchy. I know the refs are freaked out by the idea that they are going to lose control of the series, but there has got to be a better way.

The worse thing is, now they have to give the Lakers a game back when in Boston, so we are going to get at least one more weirdly reffed game.

"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager

by kv on Jun 7, 2010 6:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Some reax from a Cs fan

Most of the first quarter last night was about the best-executed offense I’ve seen, by both teams. After that, as folks have noted, it definitely trailed off.

One point about KG. It’s true he’s old, but I really don’t think that’s all there is to it. He tweaked his knee toward the end of the Cleveland series and hasn’t been the same player since. The first two series Rondo would throw him an alley-oop and he could get it; now, not so much. Shame. Gasol’s a great player and would probably still have an edge, but as it is Garnett’s a shadow of even his normal 2010 self. If Sheed is healthy, you’ll probably see a lot of him.

If the Lakers are smart, I think they’ll leave Kobe on Rondo. Allen will get his points against Fisher, but last night is obviously an extreme. More important is that Kobe can slow Rondo down and make it much harder for him to penetrate and dish. Honestly, my greatest hope is that Kobe chases Allen, but I have to think Phil’s too smart for that.

Last thing, I think, is that I’ll just add to what others have said – can’t begin to understand why Gasol and Bynum didn’t touch the ball in the last five minutes. I feel lucky to have taken that game.

by Sophomore on Jun 7, 2010 6:16 PM PDT reply actions  

I agree Kobe on Rondo as long as they can in important

in the second half they started showing on the Allen screen and it was working. The biggest thing is keeping Rondo out of his rhythm.

"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager

by kv on Jun 7, 2010 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with what you're saying, but.....
Can we please see some proper Triangle offense? Kthxbai.

I think you have to give credit to Celtics for disrupting the triangle. When the Lakers really got it going after the first quarter, most of the success occurred using the P&R, and that led to excellent big-to-big or big-to-wing (and subsequent dribble penetration) passing. The Celtics were active with their hands and double hard in the post in the second half.

I agree, proper triangle offense should be executed in Game 3. I just think the Lakers will run more P&Rs.

by E-ROC on Jun 7, 2010 6:28 PM PDT reply actions  

yeah you can't run the triangle proper when

Celtics are deny the pass to the wings from the guard and fronting the post, Lakers are doing what they can, they just gotta counter to what the Celtics do then Lamar and Artest please show up.

There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be committed against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the Limelight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.

by BrittneyM on Jun 7, 2010 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

23 hours, 32 minutes, and 5 seconds till tipoff

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Jun 7, 2010 6:29 PM PDT reply actions  

yes day June 7 is almost over

Kick ass Lakers, I’m pumped already

There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be committed against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the Limelight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.

by BrittneyM on Jun 7, 2010 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

its a good thing that game 3 is starting so quickly

so we dont have to dwell on game 2 so much, but still this feels like its taking forever.

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Jun 7, 2010 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I kinda felt Game 2 snuck up on us, like we were waiting for it

then BAM it’s here. The blog was really, really slow, and I’m sure the fans at Staples were nonchalant. Then about 2Q we woke up.

That’s just me of course. Thoughts?

Queensbridge.

"Derek Fisher shouldn't be allowed to shoot unless theres fewer than one second on the shot clock" - Kelly Dwyer

by bluexfalcon on Jun 7, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

there wasnt as much anticipation as there was for game 1.

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Jun 7, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then tomorrow, we better be up in this b-z

Queensbridge.

"Derek Fisher shouldn't be allowed to shoot unless theres fewer than one second on the shot clock" - Kelly Dwyer

by bluexfalcon on Jun 7, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pierce and KG

Have to take issue with one rather laughable piece of the original post re: KG/PP:

“right now it doesn’t seem possible that those two will improve much”

Seriously? You don’t even think it’s even POSSIBLE that these two will improve? That doesn’t strike me as logical, much less insightful, analysis. KG made about six big plays down the stretch in game two. Save for the foul trouble, he may have had a big game.

Not sure what to tell you re: Paul Pierce. He’s going to prove you wrong in the next couple of games. Artest has been effective but PP actually missed a number of easy shots he normally makes in game two. That pattern won’t continue.

Anyway, this piece of the post was pure wishful thinking. Nothing more.

Beyond that, it’s a pretty nice summary of the series from a Laker POV.

Let’s hope the refs let them play in game three….

by TheOutletPass on Jun 7, 2010 6:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Rather laughable? The only things "laughable" are the impact KG's had on the games, and Pierce's guarantee...

KG: he’s had a very small impact, and what Pau said is completely true – he’s become a jumpshooter. The thing is, he can play even worse (and did so against Orlando).

Pierce: for Pierce, who’s struggling against Artest – and if his game-play throughout his career vs Artest is anything to consider, will continue to do so – to make a bold prediction like “we’re not coming back to LA” is folly, and merely acts as fuel for his opponents. For someone who’s a pretty damn good player on the court, he does some dumb-ass, bone-headed stuff off the court.

Don’t get me wrong – Boston have some players who will really impact the remaining games in this series… but I don’t think KG will be one of them… and if “Priscilla” wants to be one of them he’s going to have to step up his game considerably.

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by With Malice on Jun 7, 2010 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

*laughs*

Yeah, Pierce is not shy of confidence, wrongheaded though it may be at times. I’m pretty sure we’re coming back to L.A. one way or another. I think everyone believes this.

My argument is not that KG can play worse. He probably can, just like any player. My argument is that it’s ridiculous to assume that it’s not possible for him to play better. Again – watch the last six minutes of game two. KG plays superbly, making play after play. Whether or not this continues is up for debate, but the least reasonable position in that debate is that he’s likely to get worse rather than better. He’s not played well save for that one stretch. Even in his diminished state, a rebound makes sense, especially at home.

Does this really seem that controversial a viewpoint?

Again, Pierce hasn’t scored effectively or efficiently so far, especially relative to the way he can and has scored. He had to play LBJ on both ends of the court against Cleveland and after being written off, he came back with big games late in the series. Artest is less of a challenge than LBJ. Pierce will most likely recover to impact the series. Again – I don’t think any neutral viewer of this series expects otherwise.

by TheOutletPass on Jun 7, 2010 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, re: Pierce

He had his fingerprints all over game two from a defensive viewpoint. Not that you’re arguing otherwise, but just wanted to be clear – he’s been a clear plus defensively for Boston.

by TheOutletPass on Jun 7, 2010 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Controversial? Not at all.
But I have no idea why you’re pointing at a guy who’s OBVIOUSLY not in his physical peak, has not played a game you’d consider impact in weeks… and say “he’ll be better in Boston”. Why? Because you ‘feel’ that it “makes sense”? And to paint someone presenting an alternate view based on the way he HAS been playing as “laughable”?

Pierce… I think he’ll be a bit better, but it’s not like he’s been setting the world on fire these last playoffs. But if you want “laughable” – that’s asserting that LeBron James is a better man-to-man defender than Ron Artest.

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by With Malice on Jun 7, 2010 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

But if you want "laughable" – that’s asserting that LeBron James is a better man-to-man defender than Ron Artest.

+1

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Jun 7, 2010 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

What's amusing...

… is that I didn’t assert that. So presumably you guys are talking to someone else.

Pierce didn’t struggle just because LBJ is a terrific man-to-man defender (although he is exactly that when motivated). Pierce struggled because of the combination of having to guard LBJ on one end and having to score against him on the other. Because Artest is a guy the Celtics are, to put it charitably, not concerned with defensively, Pierce doesn’t have to exert as much energy as he did against LBJ.

by TheOutletPass on Jun 7, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because it works that way, doesn't it?

Artest guards Pierce, he has to be guarded by Pierce when LA has the ball. It’s in the rules. He has to.

Whatever dude… if you’re going to troll, bring some stronger trash. Oscar.

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by With Malice on Jun 7, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

You really think I'm trolling?

I’m just trying to argue a point.

But you seem willfully disinterested in honest discussion.

More power to you, I suppose.

by TheOutletPass on Jun 7, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever...

On trolling: if you’re not, then perhaps cease the painting of opinions that differ to your own as fanciful. Go nuts on disagreeing with it – but don’t dismiss it out of hand with “pure wishful thinking”.

“honest discussion”? Well, thus far it’s been:
“KG and Pierce will play better. Saying they won’t is BS.”
“At least on KG – I don’t think so, and the evidence thus far supports this.”
“Your opinion is laughable.”

More than happy to partake in some banter between us… but don’t dress it up as something it’s not been (at least… thus far. I hold out hope for a lift in your game!!!).

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by With Malice on Jun 7, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

And I'd love to raise your game too!

But like Lamar Odom, I’m sure you’re done for the series!

(just kidding)

by TheOutletPass on Jun 7, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hah!

You’re all “hurl ‘n’ hope”.

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by With Malice on Jun 7, 2010 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's not trolling

He’s presenting a contention, at least.

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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 8, 2010 2:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sigh... pendantic lil' beasty, aren't you?

I think there’s a real mindset behind going onto another fanbase’s blogs, and basically doing what amounts to be trolling.

But anyway… splitting hairs: yes, KG’s had “an impact”. But then… so has Sasha Vujacic.

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by With Malice on Jun 7, 2010 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

KG ate Rashard Lewis alive

Amongst many other contributions in that series.

I certainly don’t expect him to score on Gasol the way he did on Jamison. Especially because Gasol’s clearly the stronger player right now. But given what I saw of him in game two, when he was actually playing, he’s got a big game or two left in him this series.

YMMV.

by TheOutletPass on Jun 7, 2010 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

you're probably right

although he’s gotta be frustrating for you guys, huh?

by TheOutletPass on Jun 7, 2010 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sigh...

Very.

I do expect him to show up in Boston tho’. And history would support me on that hope!

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by With Malice on Jun 7, 2010 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

LO tends lay eggs at home more than away games I notice

Queensbridge.

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by bluexfalcon on Jun 7, 2010 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now Lamar is compared to KG...ha ha

I actually BELIEVE KG will light up Gasol very soon…fustrate the hell out of him to the point Gasol may very well foul out…but this is just “wishful thinking to LA fans.”

by Ol' Green Boyz on Jun 7, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well... there's evidence to support our "wishful thinking"

Whereas from your perspective, it remains in the “hopeful” basket.

Hey, it might happen. Paul Pierce might play game 3 in a dress too.

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by With Malice on Jun 7, 2010 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

foul out?

yous trollin

Queensbridge.

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by bluexfalcon on Jun 7, 2010 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Am I history is already made in 08'

Until Gasol wins the WAR he has only won individule matchups…KG has nothing to prove…pressure still rests on Gasol until he wins it all like Garnett…

by Ol' Green Boyz on Jun 7, 2010 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok... can someone translate that?

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by With Malice on Jun 7, 2010 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

uhh, did your Internet, TV, radio, newspaper and any other media

not work in 2009. You know, when we WON IT ALL.

Queensbridge.

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by bluexfalcon on Jun 7, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not against...

Garnett and company…it looked like it was against an inexperienced, arrogant, young team…like the one we beat in the ECF…like I said just watch…the out come of this series will not favor Gasol.

by Ol' Green Boyz on Jun 7, 2010 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

See....

This I don’t know about. Gasol’s already up two games to none in the individual matchup. It would take quite a turnaround.

by TheOutletPass on Jun 7, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why let reality

get in the way of a good story?

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by With Malice on Jun 7, 2010 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

hmmm have faith my fellow fan...

I myself admit doubts during our regular season…the finals seemed so far away but here we are….I hope Gasol lays off Garnett with the same mindset of LA fans…it will make his job so much easier…or will it??? Maybe he just has to bring to Pau what he brought to Jamison…

by Ol' Green Boyz on Jun 7, 2010 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think you're really reaching...

Gasol won’t lay off.
We’re fans, it’s our job… nay, our DUTY to be dismissive!

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by With Malice on Jun 7, 2010 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where were you guys?

Oh yeah… didn’t make it.

The “out come” of this series won’t favor Gasol in what way? I can absolutely guarantee you that he will finish completely superior to his direct opponent…

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by With Malice on Jun 7, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok if I am wrong...

You can let me know over on Celticsblog…until then let’s wait and see my friend…stay thirsty for Pau’s sake.

by Ol' Green Boyz on Jun 7, 2010 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh no...

You visited here. You’re wrong, you come back and man up here.
Or visit me at my own venue…

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by With Malice on Jun 7, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fair enough...

Either way it is all for the love of watching the game…thinking we know what to expect and finding out that we were totally wrong….or are we…with the Celtics ex. Game 1 and than Game 2…their average season and their subpar post season…Garrnet the old power house to the lil spark plug named Nasty Nate…oh yeah don’t forget about him…to the game my friend…we will see won’t we.

by Ol' Green Boyz on Jun 7, 2010 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't study this

But he seems good for about two great games a series, where he’s borderline unstoppable.

by TheOutletPass on Jun 7, 2010 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have my fingers crossed...

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by With Malice on Jun 7, 2010 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ummm...

It’s not like Rashard Lewis was exactly setting the world on fire prior to playing Boston.

But you basically acknowledge that with your point about Jamison. I dunno… I remain completely unconvinced by Kevin Maurice Garnett.

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by With Malice on Jun 7, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

To be fair

There’s concern amongst Boston fans he’s injured or in some mental funk. I think it’s been rather punishing for him to see his game deteriorate and his body be incapable of doing what it used to. KG’s not the most balanced dude you’ll ever meet.

That said – I was really encouraged by the half-dozen big plays he made down the stretch in game two.

Good thing the game is Tuesday. Can’t wait much longer.

by TheOutletPass on Jun 7, 2010 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the mind is willing...

But the body is weak.

Well… comparatively speaking.

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by With Malice on Jun 7, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think we'll be able to state something with certainty

Tomorrow night.

You don’t get to have three bad/non-impactful games in a row in the finals. Especially when you make $20M per.

by TheOutletPass on Jun 7, 2010 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tell that to Shaq.

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by With Malice on Jun 7, 2010 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

or Lewis and Carter

Queensbridge.

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by bluexfalcon on Jun 7, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm.... 'likely' would have been a better word for me to use, in lieu of 'possible'...

I did add in the mitigating phrase of ’doesn’t seem’ instead of just saying ’it’s not possible’, but it still sounds too much like a certainty, you’re right.

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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 8, 2010 2:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

You beat me to the punch...

Its one thing to make an analysis of what your team can do better and that the other team isnt going to play lights out again but…. saying that PP and KG aren’t going to show up or play better and that they didn’t have an impact on the game that didn’t show up directly in the box is not analysis (especially PP). They both played better than nearly all the Lakers on the floor in crunch time did they not? At least better than Artest and Fisher.

Saying Ray had a game for the ages and that he cant come close to again if allowed to is BS, he did nearly the same thing against your team in 08. For those of you scoring at home thats x2 in 2 consecutive finals series against the Lakers. And I think he is fully capable of 20-25 on any given night, easily if Rondo is setting him up and old man Fisher is on him. He has the best match up just like PP had against Orlando and KG had against the Cavs and the Cs will exploit it. The Lakers have no way of guarding both him and Rondo unless they clone Kobe. Im sure if Ray goes for 20 than PP can pick up the extra slack, or even maybe possibly a few jumpers from “old man KG”.

by Simulacra on Jun 7, 2010 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

if Ray went for 20 instead of 32 on Sunday...then the lakers would've won

in any case. the point is, even if Ray Allen gets another 30+ game (which isn’t impossible), him going 8/11 from the 3 is probably pretty unlikely—or boston going 60+% from the three again.

by Nostance on Jun 7, 2010 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

And Simulacra (surrrrprise, surrrrprise!) isn’t taking into account Kobe’s game.

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by With Malice on Jun 7, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Correct

And if PP went for 20 and KG went for 15 then the Celtics still would have won. That’s really a deficient analogy isn’t it.

by Scal4theallstargame on Jun 7, 2010 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

and that is an IF

when PP went for 20+, Ray Allen had 10+

Still…you missed the entire point fo the post. The post was that it’s unlikely that ray allen will repeat his game 2 performance (not impossible, but unlikely).

by Nostance on Jun 7, 2010 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

But its unlikely that KG and PP will have a repeat of their performance in game to as well. What’s the point of arguing individual point totals when your playing the Celtics? They have 4 guys who are quite capable of going for 20+ points a game any game. (and they have shown that because no Celtic has lead the team in scoring for 2 consecutive games in the playoffs so far). One day Ray will score 32 and Rondo will have 19, the next Pierce will have 25 and Ray will have 18. The Celtics don’t need 2 guys to consistently beat you to win a game. They play more of a "team" game and count the total team score at the end of the game similar to ummmm?…………….. the 04 Pistons. You remember that?

by Scal4theallstargame on Jun 7, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fair Point

Defending Boston is like playing whack-a-mole. It’s not as simple as game-planning for LBJ or Howard or Deron Williams or whoever. They have four guys who can impact the game on a superstar level (on a given night).

by TheOutletPass on Jun 7, 2010 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Of course...

The Celtics can also beat themselves on offense by playing hero ball.

by TheOutletPass on Jun 7, 2010 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which isn't necessarily a flaw that Boston has a monopoly on...

That said, I’ll take Kobe playing “hero ball” than anyone on our opponents…

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by With Malice on Jun 7, 2010 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

As a C’s fan, it was nice to see Kobe so overtly pissed off at his teammates in the postgame on Sunday. It’s our hope he tries to do it himself.

by TheOutletPass on Jun 7, 2010 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Had to Rec that for the Whack-a-mole metaphore.

Made me chuckle :)

Still, your squad gives me as a Celtics fan the creeps. You scare me, and mostly because of the way you lot have been defending. Our defense is our strong point, but you have enough people that can score well so just guarding Kobe won’t do anymore.

I think, this year, our squads look alike in a lot of ways.

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by Kiorrik on Jun 8, 2010 7:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Last I checked...

Everyone of LA’s starters is capable of putting up 20+, and has done so within the last few games.
Ummmm… remember that?

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by With Malice on Jun 7, 2010 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yep

I agree with you once again but it’s a safe bet to say that Bryant will lead the scoring for the Lakers in game 3 and Gasol will be second in scoring. Can you make that bet with the Celtics? Who’s going to lead the scoring for the Celtics in game 3? Pierce? Rondo? Allen? Garnett? Nobody knows.

by Scal4theallstargame on Jun 7, 2010 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

And Perk.

Oh… we didn’t mention Perk.
I’d also suggest that Rondo’s unlikely to get the lead score, and the way Priscilla’s been playing, him too.

Hmmm… Who is, Ray Allen?

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by With Malice on Jun 8, 2010 1:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Aaaah C'mon C.A.!

It’s just a play on the drama queen stuff…

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by With Malice on Jun 8, 2010 7:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

But point taken... your house afterall.

Paul it shall be.

Sigh…

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by With Malice on Jun 8, 2010 7:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

but do we care who leads the celtics in scoring?

Not really…

it’s not as if we consistently double team any of your guys

by Nostance on Jun 7, 2010 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Our team is different to yours. You have Bryant and Gasol as consistent point scorers and while its not necessary for both of them to contribute for the Lakers to get a result, it certainly is a good barometer. The Celtics can have one, two or three of four guys step up every night and take the scoring load. That’s how we operate.

by Scal4theallstargame on Jun 8, 2010 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

yes, we operate different.

kobe will always get the monster share of shots. Gasol will get his. The shot distribution is not as even as it is for the celtics.

But you’re acting as if the lakers don’t have other scoring options if Bryant or Gasol is limited.

One kneed Bynum seems to be a problem in the paint for the celtics. Lamar Odom is capable of a big game every now and then when he actually tries (see phoenix series). And Ron Artest, despite his occasional boneheadedness was once upon a time 1st option for his team.

by Nostance on Jun 8, 2010 2:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

KG going for 15 is a reach at the moment.

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by With Malice on Jun 7, 2010 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he's gonna do it...

It’ll be on jumpshots – at least to start things off. He was money for awhile on the 18-20 foot jumpers. Like to see them establish that early Tuesday.

by TheOutletPass on Jun 7, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah... but KG taking jumpshots from well outside the paint?

LA’ll take that… and it doesn’t bode well for Boston if that’s where he’s shooting from.

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by With Malice on Jun 7, 2010 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's where he always shoots from

He’s really a jumpshooter at heart. He only really works in the post against the Jamison’s of the world.

by TheOutletPass on Jun 7, 2010 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

But he didn't so much in 08.

And that’s the point.
In my opinion, for “Gar” to be effective, he needs to be a smash-mouth defensive/offensive presence. And that’s not going to happen if he’s even unable to jump high enough to lay the ball in.

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by With Malice on Jun 7, 2010 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Very fair point

KG really worked over Gasol in the post in 08. Even if he’s on the court and not in foul trouble, I don’t see that happening much this series. He’ll have to score on jumpers, put backs (assuming he can get some offensive boards) and in transition.

by TheOutletPass on Jun 7, 2010 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

And it has to be Garnett...

Boston have no-one else who comes close to being able to match it with the Laker bigs.

I mean… Big Baby? Guy got out-jumped by Vujacic in a jump-ball…

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by With Malice on Jun 7, 2010 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that was kind of amusing

Although baby does out rebound your bigs now and then on the offensive boards.

I don’t deny the premise of the discussion – Boston can’t win this series without a significant improvement from KG. And while I’m pretty sure we’re gonna see more from him, how much more remains to be seen.

Honestly, I still can’t believe Boston won game two. The whole second half I had a feeling of impending doom.

by TheOutletPass on Jun 7, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyway

I’m out for the night.

Will drop by post-game tomorrow to either gloat or hang my head in shame.

Cheers!

by TheOutletPass on Jun 7, 2010 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sheed.

He’s played very well against LA’s Tall Timber.

Don’t count him out.

And if the refs let Gasol and KG play, then Gasol won’t have quite as much impact on a game.

Don’t get me wrong – Pau Gasol is one of the top 3 Bigs in the game I think, but when it appears to me that KG can’t even body him up for fear of fouls then something’s amiss.

Whether KG has an injury he’s not letting on or not, I cannot believe that KG has fallen off THAT much – even this year, he certainly hasn’t looked great physically the entire sseason, but the man is Very Smart Defensively and Basketball-wise.

His impact on Game 2 at the end helped Boston win.

It will be interesting to see how the game is called tonight.

GameTime!

by Celtics18and19 on Jun 8, 2010 7:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good points Simulacra

Ray doesn’t have to be that lights out from three every game (even though he’s certainly capable of dropping in a half-dozen threes against whoever’s gonna be guarding him). As long as he’s hitting shots, he’ll open up the floor for the rest of the Celtics. And the truth is, if Ray gets open shots, he will knock a bunch of them down.

The Lakers have a pretty solid half-court D, IMO (rather underrated around the league). But Boston will pick them apart if they can rebound and run.

This series is and will continue to be about controlling the glass.

by TheOutletPass on Jun 7, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

This series sucks

I cannot deal with the referees. It is the Lakers vs Celtics, not the Lakers vs the refs and the Celtics vs the refs. I’m pretty sure half of KG’s fouls were not fouls, half of Kobe’s were not, etc. Why are regular season games officiated much better than the Finals?

Other than the refs, someone needs to box out Rondo, 3 of his 4 offensive rebounds led to points that gave BOS the lead from being tied or down 1.

by heinzketchup on Jun 7, 2010 8:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Its ridiculous that all those games have been played to get to the point

where these kinds of games are being played. The story of BOTH games has been the refs. Its like you have to squint your eyes imagine the game that is being played BEHIND all the calls.

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by kv on Jun 7, 2010 8:42 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't think it's necessarily effected the outcomes...

But it’s definitely impacted the games. They’ve been… awful.

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by With Malice on Jun 7, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good post

I had avoided going on the blogs because of the over reaction that swings from game to game.

I still think we will win this series in 6 games.

Boston has to resort to bullying tactics because lets face it their best is nowhere as good as our best and they know it, their bark is way louder than their bite especially KG and Pierce.

Fuck the Celtics has always been a motto of mine and that’s not going to change anytime soon.

We will go into Beantown and wipe the floor with those assholes and shut up their fanatics.

by wayde_316 on Jun 7, 2010 9:10 PM PDT reply actions  

nah, we'll win in 5

since paul pierce doesn’t think his team can extend the series to make it back to boston

by Nostance on Jun 7, 2010 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

desecrator must have hacked his brain or something

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Jun 7, 2010 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Quick Poll:

Which would you guys rather see in Game 3?

A. Lakers blowout Boston
B. Kobe with a buzzer-beater game-winner to break their hearts

If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose.

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by akb24b on Jun 7, 2010 10:52 PM PDT reply actions  

A

close games make my hair turn gray.

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Jun 7, 2010 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

thats the spirit

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Jun 7, 2010 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey there, shaqfor3

Having trouble going to sleep again, darling?

by California Waves on Jun 8, 2010 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeas

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Jun 8, 2010 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh dear

Close your eyes and listen to this music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQcYGx_jzlU
Let go of everything…pretend that you are floating…let yourself slide deep into bliss…into a beautiful dream…

by California Waves on Jun 8, 2010 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

BZZZT

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by WaveOcean on Jun 7, 2010 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Celtic fan looking forward to the game

Some of your comments were spot on. Rebounding is the key.

But I think you were mistaken about a couple things. Most importantly, you underestimate the heart that the Celtics (including the bench) have shown since the playoffs have begun.

You do have cause to worry.

Some reasons to be optimistic, as well. But plenty of reason to worry.

If the Celts win 2 out of 3 at home, the Lakers will be in a world of hurt. My view.

Kobe is talented. But petulant, and insincere. He does not really respect his teammates.

Gasol and Fisher are hard not to like. Even Odom seems ok. Bynum has fought through the pain, and I respect that.

Artest is somewhat nuts, but he has heart.

Your bench is filled with frontrunners who only relax with a lead.

The Lakers are good enough to make the contest exciting. But not as good as Laker fans seem to think. There are chinks in the emotional armor.

And if the 1984 Showtime Lakers could lose, despite having overwhelming talent, then you should know that there is always some reason to worry.

by Frank Malzone on Jun 7, 2010 10:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Of course we're worrying.

Like-wise, Celtics fans should be worrying as well. EVERYBODY is going to be worrying until somebody wins it all.

If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose.

Just take the ball inside- LakersForDeuce and just about everybody else on SSR

by akb24b on Jun 7, 2010 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Say what?

Sheesh Frank… a bit hard there. May I offer some adjustments to your piece?
- If the Celts win 2 out of 3 at home, the Lakers will be heading back home with 2 games to play at Staples. Everyone’s just holding serve at that point.
- I think you’re letting “younger Kobe” affect your views on “Kobe now”…
- Odom’s on that bench. You don’t like Brown? DJ? Sheesh…
- Are there no chinks in Boston’s emotional armour? I like to think there are. I mean, KG’s being a mere caricature of himself, Paul “Priscilla” Pierce’s big mouth, Perk’s scowls that sooner-or-later are going to earn him a tech, Big Baby’s lack of vertical, Sheed’s impending melt-down, and of course… Paul “Priscilla” Pierce’s smack-talking coupled with the fact that he was once taken off a basketball court in a wheelchair when completely healthy.

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by With Malice on Jun 8, 2010 1:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kobe now

there was a story about Kobe making faces at Gasol when the wheels were coming off in Game 2, and generally showing him up

in the Orange County paper yesterday

that leopard has not changed his spots

by Frank Malzone on Jun 8, 2010 5:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

There was a piece I read...

About Paul Pierce actually thinking that he might have a future at Stratford on Avon post NBA.
True story.

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by With Malice on Jun 8, 2010 6:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Poor attempt at instigation Frank. You're reading from a long outdated copy of the Lakers Hate Manual.

Are you suggesting that Kobe is trying to show up Pau? Kobe makes faces at EVERYBODY, he yells at everybody. He stares hate and frustration at anyone who needs to refocus or step up relative to the game plan. That’s not disrespecting teammates it’s unparalleled competitive drive and leadership.
I understand why fans from other teams mistake this competitive leadership for something else, but I can’t see how a Celtics fan can.
What do you call it when KG and Pierce yell at teammates?

by Joshua S on Jun 8, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Heres a thought for defending Allen

put Vujacic on him. In his limited time on the court, I thought he did a fairly good job defending Allen. I think he has the speed and size to keep up with him. It could suppress the damage

by metal_militia on Jun 8, 2010 12:08 AM PDT reply actions  

I expect Phil to do this

since Brown and Fisher did such a shitty job of guarding him in game 2.

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Jun 8, 2010 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Uh......

I don’t know if that’s such a good idea. Every time I think of Sasha guarding Ray, I think of…well…if you’re a masochist, go to the 9:15 mark in this video…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7Z4_u_7IR4

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by WaveOcean on Jun 8, 2010 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

seriously fuck that game

absolutely inexcusable performance.
just watching 10 seconds of that video pisses me off.

as for sasha defending allen, hes pretty much our only option for to guard him at this point. Shannon and fisher are heavily undersized and cannot get off screens quickly or stick to Allen for shit. Kobe/ Artest both are supposed to be guarding Rondo/ Pierce.

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Jun 8, 2010 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

shannon isn't undersized. isn't he listed as 6'4?

but he is horrible at running through screens.

Though, if shannon is in the game, perhaps it’s better to have him on rondo (since he’s got decent quickness & length) and have kobe give spot minutes to allen.

by Nostance on Jun 8, 2010 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

what

hes 6’ 4"??

All this time I thought he was 6’ 2"
but still hes a shitty defender, give sasha a second chance I guess. but if he commits one of those stupid reach in fouls, a puppy dies.

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Jun 8, 2010 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

yep...shannon is a good on-ball defender but not that great a team/off ball defender

that’s why it’s better if he’s given rondo

if only shannon had some basketball IQ…the world would be good again.

by Nostance on Jun 8, 2010 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

size isnt the issue

its speed. The Lakers need someone who can keep up with Allen step for step. Vujacic, to me, fits the bill if not only for his natural speed, but also having fresh legs after all that time off.

by metal_militia on Jun 8, 2010 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry for bringing that game up, shaqfor3

I know the feeling. Someone uploaded the entire fourth quarter of Game 1 of the 2009 ECF, to which I said to myself, “Fuck that. There was no way we should have blown a 16 point halftime lead.”

But hey, at least you have the 2009 title to cushion the blow. I have nothing.

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by WaveOcean on Jun 8, 2010 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

np

the pain has died down, but it still somewhat hurts. Probably the most crushing loss that I can remember.

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Jun 8, 2010 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

but notice that there was no one in the paint

The Lakers in that game did a horrible job of protecting the middle of the court. Thats changed this year. Where we need Vujacic, is to guard Allen on the perimeter. Where he hurt the Lakers was on three’s, not dibble penetration.

by metal_militia on Jun 8, 2010 12:37 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

good point

you definitely understand the nuts and bolts of the game better than I do.

Also, I congratulate on being able to meticulously examine that video without wanting to smash your monitor. Not every Laker fan can do that.

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by WaveOcean on Jun 8, 2010 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

*congratulate you

Saying "Hello With Malice" seven times will wake the dead.

by WaveOcean on Jun 8, 2010 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Football has really helped me understand strategy better

Im a Colts fan first and foremost and as football gets more complex with schemes, I was able to pick up basketball strategy rather quickly. I love breaking down tape even though im not a coach.

by metal_militia on Jun 8, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don't have to check it, I know what you're thinking of.

You’re one awesome Cavs fan :’)

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by Kiorrik on Jun 8, 2010 7:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

(bursts out laughing) I know you will cherish that game for years to come. For those who aren’t laker fans, it’s some incredible history.

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by WaveOcean on Jun 8, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

True.

History it was. Have you seen this one? :)
link

Queensbridge.

"Derek Fisher shouldn't be allowed to shoot unless theres fewer than one second on the shot clock" - Kelly Dwyer

by bluexfalcon on Jun 8, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, yeah, yeah

That’s fine, that’s fine. To quote Magic Johnson during the 1991 NBA Finals, “I can’t feel bad, because they’re just giving us a nice butt-kicking.”

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by WaveOcean on Jun 8, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

he fights well through the screens

Sasha was probably the lakers best defender fighting through the screens that allen gets. He’s quick and very determined to stay with his man. He would need to avoid cheap fouls and stupid decisions on offense if he intends on getting significant minutes however..

by wickedskillz on Jun 8, 2010 6:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

we got this....

"If your not first, then your last"
Ricky Bobby

by KobeistheGOAT on Jun 8, 2010 1:26 AM PDT reply actions  

Reply fail?

Your trolling kung fu is weak.

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by With Malice on Jun 8, 2010 6:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

your schtick is really getting old...

and reply fail

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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 8, 2010 6:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ol' Green Boyz

In Da Howze!

Bawwwwlllin!

Da Celtickz in Da Biwldang! Yaw’llz Know We Beez Hoystin UP DEM BaNERZ!

Fakers Goin’ 2 Dey howme withowt A ChampionCHIP BAYBY!

by Jevon O on Jun 8, 2010 7:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hereby offer my apologies for that.

mutters under his breath lets go Celtics!

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by Kiorrik on Jun 8, 2010 7:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Strange -

He doesn’t have membership with CelticsBlog – only SS and R……

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by Celtics18and19 on Jun 8, 2010 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

he?

which he are you referring to?

by Jevon O on Jun 8, 2010 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

rofl

get trolled

Queensbridge.

"Derek Fisher shouldn't be allowed to shoot unless theres fewer than one second on the shot clock" - Kelly Dwyer

by bluexfalcon on Jun 8, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rondo - Elite PG???

I must be the only person alive not swallowing the Kool-Aid that everyone seems to be enjoying….

Rajon Rondo has to be the most over-hyped, underwhelming point guard in the NBA.

I dont doubt the guy hustles. He does. He absolutely gets after it. But his shooting generally sucks, his shot from the charity stripe is pathetic for as much as he gets to the line, often times when he passes it he doesnt look like even he knows where the pass is going, he looks lost and tentative if he gets corralled or forced off his dribble…

Am I the only one seeing this stuff?

I mean his stats are largely the product of luck and opportunity. His rebounding is usually off of long misses by others shots. Its not like he is banging the boards or boxing out bigs to get his rebounds. His assists are also often due to the shots made off his wild passes, not cause he is finding the RIGHT open guy for the easy basket.

I like his hustle and he obviously has a great mind to steal the ball, but I dont see the rest of his so-called “elite” skills.

Flame away, but I think he’s getting a little too much credit…..

by genghiscon on Jun 8, 2010 7:42 AM PDT reply actions  

So, if Rondo is Not an Elite PG -

Then where would you rank LA’s backcourt?

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by Celtics18and19 on Jun 8, 2010 7:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Ahead of the Celtics...

LOL. Seriously, though. I did say that I dont see what all the fuss about Rondo is. I think he is still developing. Obviously, The Lakers backcourt has miles of experience over the Celtics. Just by virtue of Kobe having played more than Ray Allen and Fish having years on Rondo.

by genghiscon on Jun 8, 2010 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

reply fail?

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Jun 8, 2010 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, gotta give our PG some credit -

He is a Gifted passer..he hustles, like you stated…he is one of the best defenders at the PG position, and seems to have gotten better as the season has progressed.

He has been ranked in the company with Deron Williams and Chris Paul. No, he doesn’t shoot free throws well, but he is working on it and will get better in that regard.

He has large hands, which affects his shooting somewhat. But those same large hands allowed him to get a nice clean block on D Fish there at the end of game 2.

His outside shot, while not perfect, has improved as well.

Rajon Rondo is well on his way, in my opinion. He may be our best player this post-season.

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by Celtics18and19 on Jun 8, 2010 8:04 AM PDT reply actions  

He's around the top 5

Clearly behind Paul, Deron Williams.

In the company of Billups, Nash, Rose.

Rondo’s #1 problem is not his shot. It’s his consistency. Once he brings it 8/10 games instead of 6/10 games, we’ll see him more clearly ascend amongst fans who don’t watch him play all the time. He’s already a guy teams have to gameplan to stop.

by TheOutletPass on Jun 8, 2010 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

This I can probably get behind...

His consistency is arguably his biggest weakness. I told my friends before the Finals started that the thing about Rondo I did fear was his speed and ability to penetrate. Not his offense, mind you, just his ability to penetrate and break down the defense. HIs passing skills still need work. Often times he throws those last second bail-out passes that he actually does get bailed out on.

But yeah, he is nearing the upper echelon of PGs. I can agree with that.

by genghiscon on Jun 8, 2010 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Im all for giving credit...

..Im just not ready to call Rondo an elite PG just yet.

I think he is obviously the guy the Celtics build around as the Big Three lumber their way to the Dinosaur Graveyard in the next few seasons.

When RR gets his whole game a little more refined, then I will be more than happy to call him an elite PG. Until then, I think he is a good player with great potential.

by genghiscon on Jun 8, 2010 8:07 AM PDT reply actions  

That's funny....

“The Dinosaur Graveyard”……like Doc Rivers said:

“When we win, we have great experience….when we lose, it’s because we’re old.”

Kobe’s no Spring Chicken, either – while still an elite player, I don’t see him exploding to the basket anymore like he did last year.

Isn’t Kobe just one yr younger than Pierce?

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by Celtics18and19 on Jun 8, 2010 8:11 AM PDT reply actions  

Kobe hasnt exploded....

for a few years now. The elevation part of his game has diminished.

Hell, he doesn’t even penetrate to the hoop like he used to. I freely admit that, to my chagrin.
Kobe might be just one year younger than Pierce, but he’s probably played a hell of a lot more games. He is in better physical shape than Paul, I would think, injuries notwithstanding.

Speaking of which, you would think Doc would take a look at his team and get a better cardio/conditioning plan going. Davis and Perkins could only get better for it.

by genghiscon on Jun 8, 2010 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting Point -

But I think Glen Davis is in the best shape of his career right now. He is Big, but he has lost a considerable amount of body fat.

And Perk? He’s in great shape, too….can’t really agree with you on the cardio issue.

The Celtics just have some Big Dudes…if the Refs ever let em’ play, we might have some bruised Lakers……

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by Celtics18and19 on Jun 8, 2010 8:36 AM PDT reply actions  

My Bad, C.A. Clark.

I’ll try to do better on that from here on out.

I like your comment there – but I thought everyone loved Hollywood?

Now Boston? We’ve been compared to the NY Yankees..

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by Celtics18and19 on Jun 8, 2010 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nobody compares you to the Yankees anymore.

You guys haven’t had major repeats in championships in many, many years.

Go ahead and count the 50s and 60s if you want.

by Jevon O on Jun 8, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

And if beating up the other team....

…were the point of the contest, I would worry about that.

Big Baby might be in the best shape of his career, but I dont think he could jump over a matchbook if his life depended on it.

And Perk, Wallace, and Garnett have really looked worn out in the 2nd half of both games.

Just saying….

by genghiscon on Jun 8, 2010 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well...

Glen did have a Dunk the other night – in the vicinity of Bynum, too. Sure he gets his shot blocked a lot, but you have to love his tenacity -

He is a True Celtic.

As for Perk, Sheed and KG? Yeah they’re tired – The Celtics have had to overcome a lot this post-season. They’ve got some juice left in the tank, though.

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by Celtics18and19 on Jun 8, 2010 8:47 AM PDT reply actions  

All this talk of Boston being an old underdog is ridiculous...

even Paul Pierce’s wheelchair thinks it’s too much.

The Lakers and Celtics are here because they out-maneuvered, out-coached and out-played their opponents. Veteran leadership and defense bring grim reality to regular season achievers. Both teams deserve to be here and to hear Boston fans playing the disrespect card is just weak.

Aside from a couple of amped up Lakers fans the ones repeating this pitiful stuff are by far C’s fans.

No Lakers fan in their right mind really thought L.A. would sweep or that this would be an easy series.
Sound criticism doesn’t equal disrespect. Now wipe your little green tears of disrespect off, but keep the kleenex close because you’ll need it again soon.
Lakers in 6!

by Joshua S on Jun 8, 2010 9:06 AM PDT reply actions   2 recs

You are Hilarious...

But the issue is that ESPN and the Media loves The Los Angeles Lakers…you all were picked by like 6 analysts (to Boston’s 4) to beat us.

Just the fact that you are calling it in 6 for LA means that you believe that LA will beat Boston TWICE in Beantown – and then close us out in LA…now a more respectful (to me) guestimation would’ve been:

LA in 7? or Boston in 7 – I like this one better :)

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by Celtics18and19 on Jun 8, 2010 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Laugh it off if you want to...

but don’t confuse the media’s take with the opinions of Lakers fans. ESPN and the media have their own reasons for their “analysis”. Besides your comments just prove my point about the disrespect card.
  
Realistically if L.A. is going to win this they’ll need to win two games in Boston. These Lakers are more than capable of doing this and they should do it if they are going to repeat.

That’s not disrespect at all. In fact it is nothing but respect for a gutsy veteran Celtics team. The longer the Lakers keep Boston around the more I have to think these guys aren’t executing.
Giving the series a Game 7 for respect is lame and I’ll leave that to the media. When these Lakers execute as a team no one is shutting them down. That’s just reality.

by Joshua S on Jun 8, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, the same can be said of the Celtics....

When The Boston Celtics play Celtics Basketball, they are nearly impossible to Beat. I guess this is a prime example of two fans not giving an inch, but it’s all good. I wouldn’t have it any other way.

Oh – and nice tissue box – you have one in Purple and Gold? Just in case? Always good to be prepared – you never know, with these Celtics.

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by Celtics18and19 on Jun 8, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately we won't ever get to see these team battle at 100%.

One thing we can agree on I’m sure is that even when they’re allegedly old, injured or out of sync, Lakers vs Celtics is still better than any other series possible out of the NBA!

by Joshua S on Jun 8, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Relatively good analysis, but...

Rather than crediting the Celtics defense (the best defense in the league when it’s clicking), you just blamed LA. Lack of rhythm was partly due to the refs, but also credit:
Boston’s aggressive, team-oriented defense
-Rajon Rondo, with his quick hands and feet, and his divine basketball foresight
-Ray Allen, who is still in fantastic shape despite his age, wearing down Kobe by running all over the court
-with good screens set by his teammates—causing Kobe to get a little sloppy and to start picking up fouls.

by squatty418 on Jun 8, 2010 9:26 AM PDT reply actions  

Rather than crediting the Celtics defense (the best defense in the league when it’s clicking), you just blamed LA. Lack of rhythm was partly due to the refs, but also credit:
Boston’s aggressive, team-oriented defense
Rajon Rondo, with his quick hands and feet, and his divine basketball foresight
Ray Allen, who is still in fantastic shape despite his age, wearing down Kobe by running all over the court-with good screens set by his teammates—causing Kobe to get a little sloppy and to start picking up fouls.

by squatty418 on Jun 8, 2010 9:27 AM PDT reply actions  

I have a request for Celtic fans showing up here to advocate their team's chances

I want you guys to put your money where your mouth is, and show up and represent on Celtics Blog. Why is it that every time I check the game threads, your comments are outnumbered by SSR game thread comments 10 to 1? Is that what you really want people to see? And I know there’s enough Celtics fans on SBNation to even the odds. So do it!

Saying "Hello With Malice" seven times will wake the dead.

by WaveOcean on Jun 8, 2010 9:47 AM PDT reply actions  

Wait I think I know why.

They have forums, and that’s where they have their game threads. Terrible place for them, I know. But, that’s just them.

Queensbridge.

"Derek Fisher shouldn't be allowed to shoot unless theres fewer than one second on the shot clock" - Kelly Dwyer

by bluexfalcon on Jun 8, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

That makes no sense whatsoever

You need to sign up for another account to post on those forums. And the only people who are going to do that are Celtics fans. So I can only conclude that they put their game threads on forums so that they don’t have to deal with comments from outsiders during games. But that’s ridiculous and counterproductive! Hunting trolls is half the fun. And comments are what give a blog life.

Saying "Hello With Malice" seven times will wake the dead.

by WaveOcean on Jun 8, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, we have several Laker fans active in our Forums...

And we had a couple of CLE fans (and ORL) fans active during our series with them, too.

All are welcome.

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by Celtics18and19 on Jun 8, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

WaveOcean -

You are sounding more Laker-ish as time goes on – I’m Sorry:)…they have a cure for that, you know.

Can’t blame you, though, after what Boston did to CLE and everything.

But seriously – like bluexfalcon said – we have Forums for our game threads. We also have a chatroom as well.

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by Celtics18and19 on Jun 8, 2010 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sounding more Laker-ish?

Their mind control techniques are finally getting to me…

I want to hang out on Celtics blog, but I really don’t want to have to register for another account just to participate in your game thread…

Saying "Hello With Malice" seven times will wake the dead.

by WaveOcean on Jun 8, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Besides, if you decide to join our Forums...

…you’ll have the opportunity to receive Tommy Points, named after our Great Tom Heinsohn.

As long as you don’t mind seeing you name in Green, it’s all good.

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by Celtics18and19 on Jun 8, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

You didn't hear?

He’s an Honorary Member of SS&R

Queensbridge.

"Derek Fisher shouldn't be allowed to shoot unless theres fewer than one second on the shot clock" - Kelly Dwyer

by bluexfalcon on Jun 8, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Me too.

Doesn’t mean that I’m changing teams, though.

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by Celtics18and19 on Jun 8, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

HEY!

I’m still a Cavs fan…that avatar of mine isn’t coming off any time soon. And I’ll still be a Cavs fan regardless of what happens in July.

Saying "Hello With Malice" seven times will wake the dead.

by WaveOcean on Jun 8, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don't worry, WaveOcean -

I really believe that Lebron will be back in CLE…I’m no psychic by any stretch, but I think he comes back.

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by Celtics18and19 on Jun 8, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

thanks for the faith

good luck to you tonight

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by WaveOcean on Jun 8, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep.

When the dust settles, I think Lebron will be back there..that being said, you all will need at least one more piece to compete again, but hey this is the NBA – anything can happen.

After all, things looked pretty dull for Boston before Summer of 2007, right? And even LA had to get Pau Gasol (or have him fall into their laps:) to make a serious run to where they are now.

Just kidding, LA – you all gave up the rights to Marc Gasol, who has turned out to be pretty good – I don’t think he is as good as Pau right now, but he is turning out to be a solid NBA center for Memphis.

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by Celtics18and19 on Jun 8, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

reply button my dude, reply button.

Queensbridge.

"Derek Fisher shouldn't be allowed to shoot unless theres fewer than one second on the shot clock" - Kelly Dwyer

by bluexfalcon on Jun 8, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

My bad - again...

C.A. Clark just spoke to me about that, too…gotta pay better attention..my bad.

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by Celtics18and19 on Jun 8, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

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