Calculating the Lakers' Draft GPA
There you have it: the first-ever picture of Devin Ebanks on Silver Screen and Roll. Here's hoping for plenty more. By the way, the last Laker to wear jersey number 3? Yep, Trevor Ariza. Trevor was a second-round pick, too. No pressure or anything, Devin.
On the whole, people seem happy with the Lakers' selection of Ebanks and Derrick Caracter last night. Second-round picks are lottery tickets. Maybe once in the history of a franchise, you hit the jackpot with a Manu Ginobili or Mark Price. A little more often you can find useful pieces like Eric Snow or Kevin Duckworth. Most of the time you get nothing and move on with your life. So picking up a couple guys who could plausibly become serviceable NBA players? Hey, not bad.
This afternoon I decided to get a little more exact about measuring the conventional wisdom as it pertains to the Lakers' selections, so I surveyed seven "draft grade" pieces I found floating around the Internet. Each piece assigns a letter grade to the drafts of the 30 NBA teams. Using the four-point grading scale we all know and love, I averaged the grades handed out to the Lakers to determine their overall GPA. It was exactly like being a teacher but without the joy of ruining kids' futures with a stroke of the pen.
Please don't think this is at all scientific. For one thing, some of the evaluators were looking only at the aggregate talent coming in, whereas others examined how well a team used the picks available to it. What's more annoying is that most evaluators didn't specify which system they were using. Chad Ford of ESPN, for instance, writes that the Lakers "made the most of their second-round picks, landing first-round talents late in the second," but then gives them a C+. I believe the response that comes to mind is LOL WUT.
So that's a nuisance, but whatever. Three of the seven evaluators gave the Lakers an A. The lowest grade was a C, slapped down by Kurt Helin of Pro Basketball Talk. Adding a third of a point for a "+" grade and deducting a third for a "-" gives the Lakers a final grade-point average of 3.14, or somewhere between a B and a B+. Here are links to the seven pieces I surveyed, along with a brief chunk of commentary from each.
Chad Ford, ESPN - Grade Given to Lakers... C+
Ebanks is one of the best on-ball defenders in the draft. . . . Caracter kept his nose clean after leaving Louisville for UTEP and put up great numbers. His personal issues caused his stock to drop, but if he turns it around, this is a terrific pick for L.A.
Kelly Dwyer, Yahoo! Sports - Grade Given to Lakers... A
I've fallen for this trap before, getting enthused about guys I've actually heard of being taken in the second round, and then Pete Mickael goes ahead and flames out. But Caracter has a legitimate post game, and Ebanks can help defend at the end of the bench.
Tom Ziller, NBA FanHouse - Grade Given to Lakers... A
Both [Ebanks and Caracter] are former lottery-pick prospects who lost stock in college but still managed to produce. The rich get richer.
Adi Joseph, NBADraft.net - Grade Given to Lakers... A
No team had a better second round, and there's a lot to be said for that. . . . At Nos. 43 and 58, respectively, both [Ebanks and Caracter] were great values. What more can you ask for from the defending champs?
Chris Mannix, Sports Illustrated - Grade Given to Lakers... B
Devin Ebanks is a solid wing defender with limited offensive skills. . . . [Caracter] could become a solid backup to Pau Gasol.
Kurt Helin, Pro Basketball Talk - Grade Given to Lakers... C
Ebanks can defend, but he’s going to need to knock down some outside shots to really have a chance of making the roster.
Matt O'Brien, SB Nation - Grade Given to Lakers... B-
Let's get this out of the way: Ebanks might be the worst shooter in the draft. But he is 6-foot-8, a nightmare on the defensive end, and a relentless rebounder. . . . Caracter, meanwhile, is a talented post player dogged by motivation issues, but is well worth the risk that late in the draft.
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Chad Ford gave us a C+?
I’m officially sold that they’re good picks then, because Chad Ford is a f’ing moron. that idiot is right about as often as Lamar uses his right hand. Almost never. His opinion automatically assures that it will turn out good.
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by wondahbap on Jun 25, 2010 7:25 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
No need to explain
The Odom comment. If people are here, they really need to know things like that.
by USA!USA!USA! on Jun 25, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
lmao
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 25, 2010 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm antiicpating 1000+
comments for an Ebanks thread, that’s how excitied everyone seems to be. 996 away! Metacritic would have extracted at least an 80 from Chad Ford’s review, Chad Ford doesn’t know how to extract grades from his own writing.
"I once convinced a woman that I was Kevin Costner, and it worked because I believed it" - Saul Goodman
Cool beans. The picks were noice, especially Caracter. Hopefully, he finds his motivation.
Kobe will give Ebanks a piece of the shooting bible. Plus, there were red flags with Solomon Alabi and Mikhail Torrance.
I think the Lakers should sign Dorell Wright anyway. Just go ahead and add more length to bench and versatility for that matter.
I like Ebanks and liked Caracter
But when i read about Caracter’s motivation problems… Ehh.. not so sure now
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
we'll see if the kobester can get on his ass and turn things around :)
this is where veteran leadership can really help.
lol, You'd be crazy to not listen to Kobe.
Fisher. Then deal with your fellow Queens residents.
Sweet 16
If you aren't going to bust ass to get an NBA contract and
then contracts, which is what Caracter is going to have to do, something is seriously wrong.
I don't like superstitious people. They're bad luck.
by Rich Langford on Jun 26, 2010 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions
He's lost 30 pounds since March
I have no idea if that effort will continue, but it’s a hell of a start.
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it's just what he does
it’s why the lakers got him, he’ll rebound so well that the lakers always have 4 guys back in transition, more offense rebounders, strictly unnecessary.
"I once convinced a woman that I was Kevin Costner, and it worked because I believed it" - Saul Goodman
just 24 hours later
everyone loves the guy. I’m a terrific convincer.
Faith.... a fan's biggest downfall
by desecrator09 on Jun 25, 2010 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions
your making a mistake....
Faith.... a fan's biggest downfall
by desecrator09 on Jun 25, 2010 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions
lol chill
just joking
Faith.... a fan's biggest downfall
by desecrator09 on Jun 25, 2010 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I think his layup is getting swatted.
See his team mate in the back turning the other way to run back down the court?
Okay, I’ll take the rebound thing though.
For me its the consistent inconsistency that concerns me - PAGFL
It's always AMMO Time, in spirit- DexterFishmore
How'd the pitch look?
It cracks me up how poorly some of the top athletes from other sports suck at throwing a baseball.
I don't like superstitious people. They're bad luck.
by Rich Langford on Jun 26, 2010 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions
ok. so i want james and bosh to team up in chicago with rose. only because now i want the lakers to beat his ass in the finals next year. boston is out of the way, next up is lebron’s team.
"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."
next logical challenge for kobe would be to kill all doubt about who the greatest is. only way to do it is by beating him in the finals. let him arm himself with a new armor, and new weapons, and a bigger, better army. kobe and the lakers will still come out on top.
"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."
lol. Kobe doesn't have to beat LeBron to prove who is greatest. LeBron isn't even in the top 20 players of All Time.
I think you mean, more Rings = G.O.A.T argument
Sweet 16
O, wait, forgot a link
http://sendlebrontochicago.com/2010/06/23/2011-nba-finals-lebrons-bulls-kobes-lakers/
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by Jovi Siagian on Jun 25, 2010 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Not bad Lakers got a higher GPA then I do right now LOL
I’ll guess I’ll see what offseason moves Lakers make and players make before I give either Ebanks or Caracter a chance because maybe neither of them make the roster so we’ll see. I think they should keep the 6’8 kid, length is hard to teach.
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by 67MARQUEZ on Jun 25, 2010 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
all forms of pie
are good with me.
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Weird... I graduated college with a 3.14
again, weird!
or see the movie, pi
I don't like superstitious people. They're bad luck.
by Rich Langford on Jun 26, 2010 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Chad Ford had different criteria in his evaluations than the other evaluators
While the other draft evaluators like Dwyer graded the draft by discussing the talent chosen relative to where each team picked, Ford didn’t. Basically, he graded the Laker picks by comparing them to the picks of the Wizards and 76ers (for example), without taking into account the fact that our draft position was 43rd and 58th.
by The Dude Abides on Jun 25, 2010 11:29 PM PDT reply actions
So thanks to a couple of ESPN d-bags, we're Asian-failing the draft
Today's sports media excels at over-reaction to a single event and specializes in hyperboles. But hey, it's that or my biochem textbook...
Asian-fail.
Anything less than 90%.
Or, in my parent’s case, anything less than 100%.
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 25, 2010 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions
the Asian grading system:
A – average
B – below average
C – crap
D – death
F – fucked
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
by shaqfor3 on Jun 25, 2010 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
rofl
I enjoyed HS. Stress free for the most part, and finished but decent grades. I didn’t really do much the last year lol.
Apologies to those that worked their asses off, many kudos.
Sweet 16
by bluexfalcon on Jun 25, 2010 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL, no need to apologize. Just be glad that your parents just want you to "do your best"
Our parents require us to get A’s and beat other Asian kids.
What’s worse is that since your parents know other Asian kids, when you lose to them, you KNOW you’ll hear about it over and over again…
But 3.7 gpa is what “passes” in Asian households
3-3.7 would be an typical Asian fail gpa (which I currently have)
Today's sports media excels at over-reaction to a single event and specializes in hyperboles. But hey, it's that or my biochem textbook...
LOL
I graduated with 3.5.
Thank you Photography and Office Assistant! bahahaha
Sweet 16
by bluexfalcon on Jun 25, 2010 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions
3.6
which includes no A papers, but all A attitude. Its not about what you know, but who you talk to. Teachers loved me and gave me the benefit of the doubt, except for my bastard AP Calc teacher. That C kept me down, but hey I got into a top 15 college. Once again, who you talk to.
Unfortunately the legend of MJ has long surpassed the reality of MJ. -Jevon O
Sounds like me...
Except I get A+’s in all core assessment tasks, but I get away with not handing in any standard coursework assignments, which would normally make a student lean towards failing, except my teachers love me and repeatedly buy my excuses.
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 26, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
that is way way beyond asian failing
Asian failing is falling one tenth short of a 4.0
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
I asian failed, finished with a 3.92 : (
worst day ever.
"I once convinced a woman that I was Kevin Costner, and it worked because I believed it" - Saul Goodman
I'm pretty excited about this years picks, especially compared to last years
However I’m not sure if I see room for them on the team. Ebanks most likely takes Ammo’s spot on the roster and in a perfect world he trains hard with Kobe and becomes the next Trevor Ariza (bye bye Luke).
Caracter has a lot of potential, but I just don’t see him making the roster. The Lakers are still going to look to sign a point guard and if Mbenga won’t come back then another garbage time Center for a little bigman insurance. Is Josh Powell’s contract up this season? I suppose he could take over his spot.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Yep, but we'll likely keep Josh.
We have 6 roster spots. Josh will take one of those, Fish will take one, Ebanks will take one, a Vet PG will take one, a Vet Center will take one. That leaves one last spot, which could potentially be Caracter.
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 26, 2010 2:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Why not "sell" or trade Caracter to another team?
He’s got all this potential, blah blah blah, maybe another team would like the gamble, and trade us a point guard or something random.
For me its the consistent inconsistency that concerns me - PAGFL
It's always AMMO Time, in spirit- DexterFishmore
Denver apparently 'tried like hell' to trade for him.
Cash, picks, etc. But Kupchak didn’t bite. (According to a Laker reporter’s twitter),
That likely means we want to keep Caracter.
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 26, 2010 3:44 AM PDT up reply actions
That
And maybe we play a little hard to get. Then we ca get them to do something crazy like give us Chauncey for a bag of chips.
by USA!USA!USA! on Jun 26, 2010 5:11 AM PDT up reply actions
CAracter for ty lawson im down
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Hell yes.
But Nugs have already been approached by other teams looking for Lawson, apparently the Nuggets declare ’he’s not available’ and hang up before even hearing out offers.
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 26, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
so they're not that dumb?
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Well, they are.
Even if you really like someone, you have to at least hear the offer. You never know, maybe a team offers a certified All-Star big man and a draft pick for KMart and Lawson, a deal that can’t be refused.
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 26, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Feeling a little better about our picks today...
Still surprised about some of the talent left tho’…
The half-crazed ramblings of a Lakers fanatic living in Japan...
Where the Credits at?
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2:36am aha.
Which is 9:36am in Cali, which means the Credits should’ve been up over an hour ago :P
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 26, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Hell yeah!
I wanted Ebanks a couple months ago because me and my friend thought his body shape is exactly like Trevor’s, plus he’s a good defender. I couldn’t believe we got him in the second round, pick by pick I was getting more excited as his name wasn’t called out, then we got him and I couldn’t help but fist pump
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I really want to see this Ebanks kid play.
Why can’t the season start already? I’m already going through withdrawals.
I'm way more excited than I should be for second round picks
I’m happy with both picks. I think Ebanks is a good backup plan for Walton if his back keeps him out.
Caracter might have a rougher time making the team since both Powell and Mbenga have said they will return if the Lakers want them, and they are pretty good backups at the price and it’s hard to find guys who can play every 10 games and still be happy with their role.
I wouldn’t be totally shocked to see both rookies make the team and spend some time with the D-Fenders when the big roster is a little too full.
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