The Lakers Are Two Home Games Away from a Title
by Saurav A. Das on Jun 14, 2010 5:00 PM PDT
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"Listen, if you told me at the beginning of the year that we've got two games at home to win a championship, yeah, I'll take that."
Those aren't my words. Those are the words of one Kobe Bean Bryant, four-time champion, surefire Hall-of-Famer, 12-time All-Star, one of the greatest players to ever set foot on the hardwood and damn sure one of the most competitive. Is Kobe being passive in saying this? Hell no. In fact, he's raising a good point. Ignore being on the brink of elimination for a second, and just think about this: we are two home games away from winning a championship. Ignore that if we lose even one game, we lose it all. If that happens, it happens, but thinking of it before that fact is just psychological strain. The Lakers have played 51 games at home this season across the regular season and playoffs. They've won 43 of them. That's a 0.843 winning mark. Think of this like a Kobe jump shot, for a second - the defender doesn't matter (in this case the opponent), it's just Kobe (the Lakers) and the basket (the end goal).
In fact, it's not even two home games. It's one. If the Lakers win Game Six (which I think they will, for reasons I will underline later in this piece), the Celtics are in the same boat. One game, upon which everything rests. Right now, it's not about winning two in a row. It's just winning that one game, in Game Six, and making the Celtics feel the pressure. Hell, it's not as if anything particularly unusual has happened. The Lakers have stolen one road game, and the Celtics have stolen one road game, thus home-court advantage is back to its initial position and essentially it's as if both teams just held serve. 2-3-2. So far, the 2-3 has occurred. Now, it's just the '-2'.
Sure, the Celtics are a great road team. But the Lakers are a great home team. These two wouldn't be playing off in the Finals if they weren't great. And forget the Celtics for a second, let's take a look at the Lakers. Which Lakers fan, who has followed this team all season, will say the Lakers have played to anywhere near their potential this series, on either the offensive or the defensive end?
Quite frankly, the Lakers' offense has been hideous. And the defense in the last two games has regressed to match. Is this the Lakers operating at their offensive or defensive peak? Hell no! The Lakers defensive peak looks something like this:
Remember that? That's when they held the Utah Jazz, one of the most efficient offenses in the league (certainly a far better offense than the Celtics, even with the C's increased level of play in the playoffs), to six points in the fourth quarter. Six. Freaking. Points. Compare that to the 36-point fourth the Lakers gave up in Game Four. See any similarities? Didn't think so.
And what's the Lakers' offensive potential? That's a bit harder to say, as the sum of team offensive input is yet to meet the total talent of all the composite parts. However, if you want to find the closest thing to it, you might want to look at Game One of the Western Conference Finals series, where the Lakers scored 128 points on 58% shooting (including 8-17 on threes and 18-22 on free throws). But even that seems under what this team's total potential is, considering its plethora of top-heavy offensive talent supplemented by bench players who have a propensity to occasionally light up. In that game, Derek Fisher and Ron Artest were widely ineffective, despite Ron being Los Angeles' third-leading scorer for the playoffs and Fish being one of the Lakers' keys; and Andrew Bynum was rendered near useless by his injury. That offense has been missing from this series, as well.
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Now, obviously the Celtics are a far better defensive team than the Suns, and this series is being played at a slower pace, thus expecting the Lakers to drop 128 is rather ridiculous. But it's almost as likely as a well-functioning 2010 Laker squad only scoring 86 points in a game.
As for the defensive effort? There was a 30-point differential in points allowed between the game against the Utah Jazz and Game Four of this series. Now, the Lakers aren't going to hold the Boston Celtics, title contenders, to 24 points for a game - they'll be lucky to hold them to three times that amount; but that fateful December game against the Utah Jazz shows that the true Lakers are NOT a team that allows an offensively flawed Boston Celtics team to score 36 points on them in a fourth quarter.
What the Lakers need to do over the remainder of this season is NOT to worry about not being eliminated. It is NOT to stress about winning two games straight. All the Lakers need to do is to play to at least 90% of their potential, on the offensive and defensive end of the floor. Maybe the other 10% is currently impossible, due to injuries and exhaustion, but whatever number closest to one hundred that is humanly possible needs to be achieved.
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Now, to be fair, the Celtics certainly haven't played to their potential this Finals series, either. Some players have gone off in individual games, but offensively as a whole the Celtics have been well below their potential all series. Their defense has been close to impeccable, if not '08 level, but their offense leaves much wanting. Maybe the Celtics play to their potential over the remainder of this series, simultaneously with the Lakers. That has the potential to be the greatest Finals finish ever. And maybe, when both teams play as close to their potential as logically possible, the Celtics still beat the Lakers. If that happens, there is no shame in losing. No regrets. If the Lakers play to their absolute peak, and still lose, I guarantee you that walking away from the series, you will not be disappointed in the Lakers' play from Game Six onwards, even if they did lose. In that case, it would be a true sense of 'there was nothing else the Lakers could do, the better team won', and the series finish will surely be replayed on ESPN Classic decades from now.
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If the Lakers lose again in the manner they did in Game Five, there's plenty to be ashamed of (except Kobe). Game Five was despicable, as has been most of the rest of this series. As I said here, it's just been bad basketball. However, if the Lakers play to their potential, they certainly annihilate the Celtics if the Celtics play at the level they have been throughout this series. If the Celtics also play their best basketball, who knows, they may still win. And if they beat the Lakers, even when the Lakers play at their absolute best, there's nothing more to be said.
Personally, I doubt that happens. If the Lakers play to their utmost potential, no team in the league today can compete with them. The Lakers have a collection of talent that if fully healthy and properly synched, could take it to the Celtics of the '60s, or the '96 Bulls (conversely, if the Big Three + Rasheed of this Celtics team was even three years younger, they could rightfully join that list). Unfortunately, the Lakers have never fully synched. They aren't going to be fully healthy, there's nothing to be done about that now (hell, Kobe hurt his ankle again last game), but the Lakers still have an opportunity to sync.
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As for Game Six, guys? Provided the Lakers bring any semblance of the defensive skill and effort they possessed for much of these playoffs and many parts of the season, and Kobe's supporting cast hits a few shots, I don't think there's any reason to worry about that game. Why? Kobe Bryant. The Black Mamba. You all saw him in the third quarter of Game Five. 19 points on 7/9 shooting in a ridiculously low-paced game. At one point, he hit the first seven Laker shots of the quarter without a single miss. He scored 23 straight points for the Lakers, from the end of the second quarter to the end of the third. He scored these points on jump shots. Damned indefensible jumpshots. As I said before, when Kobe's shooting like that, the defender doesn't matter, it's just Kobe and the rim. At the other points of the game, he was trying to penetrate and break down the Boston defense, getting blocked, missing bad shots and turning the ball over in the process. He was trying to get his teammates going. Both avenues didn't work.
Kobe couldn't break the defense, couldn't get his teammates involved, no matter how much he tried. But, here's the thing with Kobe. It's something he does better than any player to ever play this game. He can score, and score efficiently, whilst doing exactly what the defense wants him to do. You can defend him absolutely perfectly, but it doesn't matter. If the ball needs to go in the basket, it's going in the basket. Just ask Alvin Gentry.
Last game, Kobe tried scoring to keep the Lakers in the game, but the Lakers' inability to get any stops whatsoever cost them. So in the fourth, Kobe went back to trying to get his teammates going. And to an extent, it worked. In conjunction with getting a few stops, the Lakers made some baskets up to the point where Ron Artest was sent to the line with a chance to make it a single-possession game (of course, he missed both freebies). If the Lakers as a whole are ready to play on both ends next game, that's what'll happen.
If not... Michael Jordan, you might have company. Kobe is one of the few players in history to have a determination to win, essentially an addiction, bordering on insane, that is comparable to Jordan's. And while Kobe may not have the superior athleticism, slight size advantage or far bigger hands that Jordan had and that make Jordan better than Kobe; he does have that determination. And he does have one (two?) clear advantages over Michael. His jumpshot, though streaky, is better than Mike's. And his ability to create a shot from the midrange out is unparalleled in the history of the league.
Now, Michael lost that game. But those Celtics were a far better team than Michael's Bulls of the time. Here, has any team been outplaying the other by a clear margin through the entirety of the series?
The Celtics of today are a good team. However, their closers, the Big Three (Rondo may be their best player, but he is not their closer), are old. And to win this Game Six, they will all need to step up in the face of Kobe's potential onslaught. Can they win three games in a row? Can they step up, after only one days' rest, on the road?
Kobe will do whatever it takes to win Game Six, you can count on that. And me, I trust him.
I mean, look at what the guy can do:
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In the end, while you may doubt the Lakers' mentality, their toughness, their mental fortitude, the one thing you cannot doubt is their talent. The talent that has the potential to win any given game, any given night. The talent that has the potential to dominate in the way few teams in NBA history ever could. All we fans can do is trust that talent.
The biggest danger is giving up, as Game Six in 2008. Kobe won't give up. Ron won't give up, though his idea of 'helping' may hurt us even more than if he gave up. Derek Fisher won't give up. But, the rest of the team, might they?
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Hey, anybody notice how in TD Garden, they played the same songs in the arena for every single game in the pre-game? Same order, too. Anybody remember the song they played during Laker introductions?
'Till I Collapse' by Eminem (profanity warning).
Listen to it. Really, it's an apt song for the mentality these Lakers need to convey. It's got some choice lyrics.
Cause, sometimes you feel tired,
You feel weak, and when you feel weak, you feel like you wanna just give up.
But you gotta search within you, you gotta find that inner strength,
And just pull that shit out of you, and get that motivation to not give up,
And not be a quitter, no matter how bad you wanna just fall flat on your face, and collapse.
That's the intro. Now, the chorus:
Till the roof comes off, till the lights go out
Till my legs give out, can’t shut my mouth.
Till the smoke clears out - am I high? Perhaps.
I'ma rip this shit till my bone collapse.
Till the roof comes off, till the lights go out
Till my legs give out, can’t shut my mouth.
Till the smoke clears out and my high burn out
I'ma rip this shit till my bone collapse.
Now, let's hear the outro, shall we?
Until the roof
The roof comes off
Until my legs
give out from underneath me
I will not fall,
I will stand tall,
Feels like no one could beat me.
This is actually one of my favourite songs, and I loved it that the Garden staff used it to introduce the Lakers, while using some mediocre cocky D-12 track ('You Don't Know') to introduce the Celtics. The lyrics of 'Till I Collapse' are pretty self-explanatory, and those three sections together perfectly fit with the Lakers right now. Hell, there are some more Eminem lyrics to the same effect. How about 'Lose Yourself'? Or 'Not Afraid'? In fact, when I buy the Lakers (any day now), I'm going to make it an executive order that their pregame playlist has to consist solely of Eminem joints.
But I digress. The song doesn't matter. What matters is the mentality the song conveys, the mentality the Lakers need to seize and adapt as their own.
You just gotta lose yourself, in the music; the moment, you want it, you gotta never let it go. You only got one shot, do not miss your chance to blow. This opportunity comes once in a lifetime, yo.
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Hey, who's watched Coach Carter? It's a decent movie. There are two scenes from it that apply pretty aptly here. One is Cruse's speech when he returns to the team for the second time (the speech is quoted from a poem by Marianne Williamson).
"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure."
That's my signature on this website, as many of the regulars reading this will have noticed. And with good reason. That quote has so much truth to it, it is indescribable. 'Know ye not that ye are gods!?' Same deal there, just more of a religious undercurrent. While it applies to humans in general, it also applies to these Lakers, particularly Kobe, who is sometimes reluctant to completely take over a game for concern of taking his teammates out of it and possibly concern of being crucified by the media. But Kobe needs to bear in mind that 'as we shine, we unconsciously give others permission to do so'. Do whatever it takes, Kobe. Don't worry about your teammates or the media. They've both let you down. If your teammates don't come out ready to play, do whatever it takes.
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Also, isn't it apt? Are the Lakers truly worried that they are worse than the Celtics, or is it that they possess the talent to destroy them, but cannot unlock it, that worries them so? Lamar Odom. Is his greatest fear that he is simply not that good, or is he afraid of how good he can be, and of the great responsibility that comes with that great power?
And then the other part. I can't find a YouTube clip of it, but for those of you who have seen the movie the scene I am referring to is when the Oilers are down double-digits in the state tournament, and Coach Carter calls a timeout. What does he tell the team in that timeout? 'We're playing their ball! We're not playing Richmond Oiler ball! We push the ball, we run the ball, we press the ball! We need to make them play OUR game!' That goes for the Lakers, too.
Many on the team seem to be getting too caught up in trying to match the Celtics' 'toughness', instead of just playing Laker basketball. The Celtics' 'toughness' is a strategy devised by Tom Thibodeau where the Celtics foul on essentially every play, but have been trained to do so in a way that is unlikely to be called. The Lakers haven't done this training, nobody has asides from Boston. Hence, when the Lakers try defending like the Celtics do, they get called for touch fouls out on the perimeter. That's why Ray Allen and Derek Fisher can be consistently shoving each other through the game, and Fish gets called for multiple off-ball personals while Allen doesn't get called for one off-ball offensive foul.
And then there's the issue of pace. The Lakers have been walking the ball up the court, slowing the pace as much as possible to avoid Rondo getting out in transition on the other end. They've been trying to play slow-down, grind-it-out, physical games. And the Lakers are talented and versatile enough to pull if off. But it's not their core nature. Asidefrom Ron Artest (and probably DJ Mbenga), no player on the Lakers' roster is truly 100% comfortable in that type of game. It's just not Laker basketball. Mix it up a bit, bring back a bit of the 'finesse' Laker flair.
The slow-down has had many negative consequences. As mentioned all over the place, the Lakers' walking the ball up so slowly has led to them only having 14 seconds a possession to run their offense, and the Celtics defense is not one that can be cracked in 14 seconds on a consistent basis, certainly not by an offense as complex as the Triangle. This is resulting in a lot of end-of-shot-clock possessions ending in absolutely terrible shots or Kobe bailouts. For God's sake, bring the ball up a bit faster, have some more time to run the offense.
And don't be afraid to push the ball, either. Sure, Rondo is deadly in transition. Sure, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, Nate Robinson and Rasheed Wallace can spot up for threes, and Kevin Garnett and Tony Allen can finish. But the Celtics' core is old. Older than the Lakers'. Attempting to tire them out is worth a shot.
Just play Lakers basketball.
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IMPORTANT: PLEASE READ THIS SECTION, EVEN IF YOU SKIM THROUGH THE REST:
I've been a Laker fan for years. Kobe brought me here, not because of his play, but because he was hated. I've been a member of this site since early January, and a writer since early February. I don't do it for any personal gain, I just do it out of my passion for the team, a passion I know all of you share. And thus, I have one request to make of you all, particularly the regulars, that I know many of you will be more than willing to acquiesce to: spread this following message. Facebook, Twitter, email, word-of-mouth. Spread it through the whole city of Los Angeles. Doesn't matter if you send people this article, or if you just relay to them this following passage.
Staples Center need to ignite. The place needs to friggin' go off.
We all saw TD Garden. We all saw US Airways Center before that. We all saw EnergySolutions before that. We all saw the Ford Center. Oh God, we saw the Ford Center. Every single one of them embarrassed the Staples Center crowd. For those of you lucky enough to have tickets, I hope you'll do your part in making the place go crazy. (Including you, C.A. I expect you to have the media section rioting.) If you know people who have tickets, make it known to them you'll never talk to them again unless they're so loud you hear them from your TV at home.
Even if you can't directly contact someone who's going, just spread the word of mouth. I don't know about you, but I am sick and tired of Laker fans having this label as arrogant bandwagoners who don't care about their team. And I'm sick of the perception it's always been this way. Remember the memorable Kobe-Shaq alley-oop? Remember the crowd's reaction? It's below.
Where's that crowd gone? A lot of the people in the crowd are the same. They've just forgotten. Forgotten how it is to be a true fan. They need to be reminded. Obviously, everything starts from the upper and mid-lower levels. So get the word on the streets, over the interwebz, on the phone lines, everywhere: 'If you've purchased a ticket to the game, paying currency for the ticket is not enough, you have to earn it. If you have any voice left after the game, you're a disappointment'.
As for the courtside and close lower level fans? Well, if you've got the Facebook or Twitter of a celeb going to the game, spam their official page requesting, nay, demanding, that they represent Laker fans with pride. Other than that, if everyone else in the crowd are going beserk, the scene fans will be embarrassed into action and have to cheer themselves. They wouldn't want to seem as if they're outsiders, after all.
Get the word out. I want every single one of the 19,079 attendees of the game to be off their heads.
Scare these Boston Celtics f--kers back to where they came from.
Oh, and what was that Paul Pierce said about Laker fans 'not being as intelligent as Celtic fans'? Oh, yeah, because Laker fans don't chant 'MVP' for Kobe as much as the Boston fans at the Garden did in 2007? Yeah, I suppose he's got a bit of a point there in that his own supposed 'fans' cheered more for Kobe than they did for Pierce - hell, they cheered more for Kobe than the Lakers' own fans did back then.
It's ironic that Paul grew up in Inglewood, CA, as a Lakers fan. Such a faker, such a poser. Everybody in Staples Center tomorrow who's reppin' Inglewood better let Pierce hear it, that he ain't no son of LA.
Spread the word, Silver Screen and Rollers. Lakers fans in Staples are expected to be tearin' this place up. It's all the marbles, now. Two more home games. Everybody who has anything to do with the Lakers, from fans, to players, to coaches, to athletic trainers, to journalists, to bloggers, to radio and TV guys, to ball boys. Everybody who supports this organisation has to give it their all until this series is over. Leave nothing in the tank. That includes losing your voice cheering at Staples Center, folks.
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I'll finish with one more speech that reflects upon the Laker scenario perfectly (once again, profanity warning).
Oh, and everybody? Don't forget, the Lakers are the defending champions, and until another team is lifting the Larry O'Brien, that remains the same.
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At the risk of sounding like Phil, this could be the last time I'm writing a post here for the '09-10 season. This BETTER not be the last time I'm writing a post here for the '09-10 season.
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This headline is 100% accurate.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
the team that scores more points than the other team in game 6 will come away with the win!
mark it down, i said it.
HOLY COW.....i spent 3 hours scrolling down
"You are asking me if LeBron is going to New York?, I’m trying to tell you in a polite way, I don’t give a shit"
Second that...
Phenomenal piece SAD!
The half-crazed ramblings of a Lakers fanatic living in Japan...
Nope, just a combination of the flu and several public-holiday extended weekends is giving me plenty of spare time
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 14, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
oh and nice that you added "Till I Collapse"
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
Man, your fingers must be tired
I don’t really buy your argument
the teams are evenly matched, but psychology does tend to play a part, and the karma is not good for the Lakers at the moment. I think the Lakers will come out tight, and the Celtics will come out loose in Game 6 — the reverse of game 4
Lakers COULD win, but that is a tough, tough way to open the game
the interesting thing from my perspective is whether Kobe should try to take over the game at the start
if Kobe goes nuts, then maybe the whole team loosens up and plays great
if kobe opens slowly, the rest of the team slides into the tank and the Celtics are up 20 by half time
so it seems like a high risk high reward type of approach
would you do it?
I do not think Phil will do it. Such a radical approach would imply desperation. I think Phil would consider that the wrong message
would you feed Kobe relentlessly to open game 6?
Why would the Lakers Karma be bad?
Because They lost 2 games in Boston? I would probably agree if it were games 3 and 4 and this game was in Boston. But it’s not. It’s in L.A. Tha Lakers get to sleep in their own beds, drive their own cars to the arena and play in front of 19,001 fans who will give them that extra boost to win..Boston fans did it in games 4 and 5, No difference.
I dont buy your Lakers coming out tight theory either. Actually, I think the Celtics will be the ones who come out tight and be down double digits by halftime. I dont believe Kobe comes out trying to take the game over. My bet is the Lakers feed Gasol early and often then work off his production which was monstrous in the 1st 2 games. I dont see that changing either.
What will the Celtics do after losing game 6 and forced to play a game 7 in enemy territory?
What happens if the Celtics volatile personalities rear their ugly heads in the midst of losing game 6? Sheed and Perkins have 6 techs apiece and a meltdown will leave them sitting on the sideline for a game 7.
Will they crumble under the pressure of facing the greatest player in the world and the renewed confidence of his teammates?
Game 6 is the Celtics only chance at winning the title. Lose game 6 and there is no way in hell they win game 7 in L.A.
You know it, the other Celtic fans know it and you better believe Doc and the team knows it too.
I only need 2 words for my sig now....."FUCK BOSTON"
so wouldn't
Boston come out with just as much energy? but I do think we’ll get this one. We were so close at Boston. This is our home crowd. The calls are swayed by us.
I think Jackson plays it simple
if Bryant is hitting he will ride the hot hand as far as it will go. I believe that he says that much in some interviews. Who wouldn’t? Bryant and Lebron are the best players in the NBA and Bryant can hit harder shots. If Bryant does this and the Celtics start doubling and the rest of the Lakers play their roles a Laker blowout could result. Rivers does not believe in doubling … anyone … you saw that in the 3rd quarter of game 5.
I think a more difficult situation for the Lakers is likely. Bryant will want to totally carry the load but chances are he will not be so perfect as the 3rd quarter of game 5. Then the problem his how to balance his urge with the need for the team to have proper balance to compete over 4 quarters. As a Celtics fan I hope that he is a little off and advantage can be taken.
Another possibility is a Laker fan nightmare. If all the Celtics (for the first time in the series?!!) finally play well together and build a significant lead. In that case Bryant will be uncontrollable and he will try to go down shooting everything and doing so quickly. If he gets hot enough you guys might come back, and if not it will likely be a Celtics blowout and title. But I would not lose too much sleep over this possibility. The Celtics are a really really lousy front running team — even with their better play in the playoffs. A Laker blowout or a tight game is more likely. But yes, the big 4 can all have good games at the same time and it has happened even in the playoffs this year.
by Celtics_fan_in_cali on Jun 14, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Indeed we all expected more from both teams
It’s a shame that both sides feel that their teams didn’t play their best in this series. Combination of good defense, injuries, fatigue, officiating, lousy shooting, playing too tight…
It’s a damn good series, even if the quality wasn’t always there.
I guess in our minds we were all expecting close contests down to the wire. Trading shot for shot…
However, we still have 2 more games (hopefully). We all hope that Lakers will save the best for the last.
What Celtics didn't play well
last game. You shot over 50%, I don’t think its going to get much better than that. Tos have been a part of the Celtics all year and o. rebs were never your forte. I don’t think you can expect a much better game than game 5.
Ray Allen
He hit no 3s which make a big impact in spacing. He can do better. Also the bench play was weaker than other games. But regardless, I doubt they shoot such a high percentage as a team again. It is possible, but not probable. Likewise, I am not sure the Lakers can count on Bryant going off to the same degree. If he does and the other players play better, the Lakers win easily.
We will see what happens soon!
by Celtics_fan_in_cali on Jun 15, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
as I keep telling
the Boston fans who keeps yapping like they are Nostradamus, I am so looking forward to it. BRING IT! As long as the Lakers keep on swinging, I have no complaints regardless of the result.
"E-Coaches are heavy in here tonight! Take E-Sasha and put him on the E-bench on your fantasy league, that’ll show him!" - Jevon O
Nostradamus
I think that the Lakers charge out of the box, and both Gasol and Bynum score a couple times early. Kobe drops a couple Js. Lakers lead 17-10.
But Gasol and Bynum will tire. By the time the Lakers subs get in, the Celtics have crept back to be within 4, and the subs are worried. The jumpers clang, and the subs make mistakes on defense from being too anxious.
Kobe goes wild in second period, but Lakers lead by only 2 at half time.
In the second half, the real game and the real pressure begins.
Celtics by 10, World Champs.
by Frank Malzone on Jun 15, 2010 5:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Yawn.
C’mon guy… ease up on the fiction.
The half-crazed ramblings of a Lakers fanatic living in Japan...
Hmmmm....
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 16, 2010 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions
This was amazing...
I really like Eminem too, so that obviously was awesome. But just the tone throughout. We have two more homegames, and an awesome home record…and when we win them, the Lakers are champs once again! Game 6 really is the key. The Celtics will smell the title, and it will be up to the Lakers to withstand that intensity, and take that game, and get themselves to within a win of the title. Game 6 will be the tougher one to win, IMO, because the Lakers are back on the ropes right now. They need to play with desperation, with heart, with intensity…
Two home games left! Let’s hope the Lakers are ready to make the most of them!
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reposted from earlier
It’s more appropriate, especially with Saurav posting the “Inches” speech, which I still have not tired of.
If the Lakers are sending three defenders at Kobe.
That means there are four guys on two. The Lakers have to take advantage of that.
Kobe’s right – someone has to make a stand with him. No spurious jokes about "you gotta get the ball to do that", the other guys have plenty of chances every game to shine. And even if they don’t shine on offense, they have a opportunity to shine on defense every single defensive possession …
"either we heal now, as a team,
or we will die as individuals."
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
Oops.
If the Lakers are sending three defenders at Kobe.
But you’re still the man (in the high heels).
"Prejudice not founded on reason cannot be removed by argument." - Samuel Johnson
Dammit
Thanks for reading. His teammates are effectively defenders because they ain’t helping him score!
But really, role players just gotta hit a few threes, play some D, and we are in business.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
Agree 100%
His teammates are effectively defenders because they ain’t helping him score!
Bastards better pick it up tomorrow night.
"Prejudice not founded on reason cannot be removed by argument." - Samuel Johnson
agreed
kobe can’t carry the load by himself.
EVERYBODY needs to show up. from pau gasol, to jordan farmar. fisher, artest, “candyman”, whoever is in the freaking game!
by lakerlover2by4 on Jun 14, 2010 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions
i fully expect the role players to be better
they usually are at home compared to being on the road
by lakers are trouble on Jun 15, 2010 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions
role player perform better at home
i still wish they showed up in game 5. well, what’s done is done. time to focus on tonight, get the damn win and then some.
by lakerlover2by4 on Jun 15, 2010 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Heh. I needed this.
What is the nature of your thoughts, gentlemen, when you say "fuddle duddle" or something like that?
From True Hoop
http://celticshub.com/2010/06/14/the-toughest-win/
“… think about this: Boston shot 60 percent and played NBA defense as well as you will ever see it played, and they still won by just six points at home.”
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
we needed trevor ariza last night, artest gave us nothing but his horrendous ft/3pt shooting
In Kobe we trust!
we needed him for two plays
to finish that layup on the break and to foul Rondo at the end. Thats it.
I Swear On All That Is Holy..
I WILL GO FUCK*NG CRAZY TOMORROW.. Look for me behind the basket.. row 6 got this as a birthday present but I will now use it as a calling..
by sobersik89 on Jun 14, 2010 6:21 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
If we lose, this one's on you.
And we get to kill you. Ritualistic – style, to purify ourselves of the loss.
Yikes
Spoken like a true Spurs fan. What is this fanbase coming to?
Saying "Hello With Malice" seven times will wake the dead.
you're next
we’ll do you imu – style in the ground, with lava rocks.
by _logan_ on Jun 14, 2010 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
won't be enough
we’ll be 2-10 against the celtics in the finals. that’s one ugly ass stat to look at.
by lakerlover2by4 on Jun 15, 2010 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions
What will you be wearing
Yes, please represent and get all the timid, lazy asses to do so as well.
Go Lakers!
Yellow Lakers Jersey, Black LA hat
and I will have the Jack n the box sticks before anyone else lol…
Can I have your free tacos coupon that you will get at the end of the game?
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gil Meriken on Jun 14, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll be representing every Laker fan that doesn’t have a ticket.. I will not stop until I can’t speak.. We are 2 wins away from this and I will do my best to get everyone in the sections around me to get just as crazy..
it will be needed
Lakers crowd gotta be blazing tomorrow, do or die, it’s do or die and Lakers deserve a chance at game 7 so do what you can while your their, I’ll be screaming at home
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be committed against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the Limelight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
You can believe one thing..
I’ll do what I can, I promise I will – I will go out of my mind for these guys, but I want the effort to be there from them as well…
yell at some of the celebs if you have to
get them up and screaming
by lakers are trouble on Jun 15, 2010 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions
wow! very motivating read saurav!
celtic fan here. i may not be as knowledgeable about basketball as some of you guys because i have been following the nba only for the past 5-8 years or so, but i felt the need to address some of the points you made here:
- boston’s offense is flawed → you must be kidding right? just because they are a defense-first team, it does not mean they lack offense. their defense is soo good, their offense does not need to do as much as LA’s offense or for that matter any other team’s offense does. this is too generic a statement and i know for sure you yourselves don’t really agree totally with that. they rely on ball movement, unselfish play, intelligent spacing and getting the best shot possible during every possession. that’s something that needs each and every player to be involved in the play, requires them to have floor vision and do the little things that need to be done before a good shot can be taken. its one of the most efficient ways of running an offense imo.
- if the ball needs to go in, it will for kobe, ask alvin gentry → totally agree and that’s something i love about his competitiveness (he said in response to a question on tony allen’s defense “no, i’m not too concerned about that, if push comes to shove, i can always get a bucket”. wow! and he lives by that every day. no other friggin player in the nba can make that statement today. not lebron, not wade and its not even close)
- if lakers play offense to full potential, they can beat any team → again, too generic a statement i think. if you put it in the context of the current series, may be this is all what their offense can do. i dont mean it in a bad way. because hey, with this offense they had a chance to win pretty much every game they lost in the series. its got to be pretty good (what ever it is. it could be kobe-ball or the triangle or other)
- boston’s closers are old → not a valid argument i feel. agreed that they are old. but i have not seen an instance where they have been beaten due to that in this series. that’s largely thanks to the good bench we have. the big three (with some rest in the middle) are still lethal closers imho (but you have the best closer in the game, no arguments there)
- celtics defense is taught to foul on every play in such a way that a foul is not called → might be partly true (from your angle that is) because of the way the other teams play and the way the game has evolved. but this is celtic basketball, this is physical grind-out basketball at its best and you have got to have known this from 2008. nothing new there, so i’d have expected phil to have prepared the team for this if they had to meet in the finals
- ray/fish matchup, ray does not get called for fouls but fish does → again, agree to a certain extent, but i think it might be because of fisher’s reputation for flopping way too much. ray does not flop afaik. when you build a reputation for flopping, it makes it awfully difficult for the refs to call in your favor. stop flopping and stop giving looks/complaining, let your coach handle the refs/media about this and you will be just fine.
- lakers playing ball at celtics pace → very good point. if they start pushing the ball and getting more possessions, they have a better chance of winning. basically, if they score over 100, the celtics will find it tough to beat them because it will be a lot of load on the celtic offense to score over 100. but again, the celts transition D is very good, so, you’ve got to take your opportunities whenever they come and push the ball
- your point about getting the crowd involved → shows some desperation. if i were a laker fan, i wont panic that much. you still have two games at home and have the best player in bb. but the crowd needs to be involved for the other players to catch fire and you could use some of that in the upcoming games
- paul pierce → has been and will always remain a son of LA. he was after all born and brought up there. hell, he still lives there in the off season and has family and friends. what he may not be is a laker fan because of his celtic allegiance. no one can take either of this away from him
finally, just love the passion that shows all over your post. good for basketball and good for sports in general to have such fans! that said, let the better team win, adios!
Nice post. I would add some minor points too
If the Celtics win I think they prove they are the better team at the time of the series with who can play etc. Same for the Lakers if they win. I always hate it when fans say the worse team won in a seven game series with lots and lots of chances.
I am partial to the Celtics and I do not like the refereeing I saw in the balance of the series and I think Lakers fans are the same. But it is a real stretch to say it is purposefully corrupt. The crooked recent ref (forgot name) was the closest thing to such and even there most of his claims turned out to be false. I actually think the Celtics get the worst of the calls due to Perkins and Wallace being so abrasive to refs so even there one might say it is a self-made bed (Rivers makes this point to the players many times). Both sides flop a lot with Fisher and Pierce being the focal point. I acutally think Fisher is better at it and does it more though. I suspect Lakers fans fixate more on Pierce. I hope the NBA starts giving fouls for this since I think it is ruining the games when it becomes central to strategy and getting fouls for blatant cases would cut it severely.
Finally, good fans should want both teams to play healthy and at max potential to see the highest level competition. That is what sport is about. I hate it when people cheer KGs injury induced poor play or Bynum’s. These guys should be commended for giving their all. I truly hope Bynum’s extreme of it does not hurt his later career given his young age and accumulation of problems. It was sad what happened to Kevin Mchale who played long and hard on a broken foot (partly futile) and was not quite the same player after.
by Celtics_fan_in_cali on Jun 14, 2010 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
2 great posts from Celtics fans
Good pts by both of you. I’m glad to hear some good bball discussion from fans instead of the middle-school like name calling and taunting that dominates the web.
I think most serious fans do agree that no team is dominating the series and despite how worried LA fans are (I’m sure you went through the same before games 4, 5), the series can still go either way.
Even though the quality of play hasn’t always been great, we are getting what we asked for in terms of drama and suspense.
I agree calls have been inconsistent and wrong for both teams during the games.
However, our complaint is that late in the game, with the game in the balance, boston has gotten calls that literally END THE GAME.
You can’t claim the same has happened for the Lakers, so we’re not on even footing.
Thanks for stopping by though and with intelligent thoughts, it’s much appreciated.
The problem with your logic
Is that if the calls that inevitably seem to go against the Celtics in the first half never took place, it would be irrelevant what happened, call-wise, in the last five minutes. Because the Boston lead would be bigger. Two points is two points – doesn’t matter when you score it.
Bottom line is that, IMO, the best team has won every game so far.
That’s all I hope for in game six. That the refs let the players decide the game.
by TheOutletPass on Jun 15, 2010 3:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Nice idea... if time were lineal and easily traversed inversely.
But untrue, despite the seeming fault in logic. 2 points at the beginning of the game is nowhere near as important as 2 towards the end…
The half-crazed ramblings of a Lakers fanatic living in Japan...
Of course it is
If Boston is up by, say, 10 points with two minutes to go, then one blown call isn’t a huge deal. If they’re up by 4 points, it is a huge deal.
Thusly, blown calls against the Celtics in the first half (where they lose points one way or another) make it seem like the Lakers are closer than they are at the end of the second half. Making it easy to claim that a blown call changed the tenor of the game. Not at all. Missed calls have happened all game long. We just focus more on the fourth quarter.
To be clear – I’m not complaining about the refs favoring either team. I would complain about them ruining some games from an aesthetic POV.
by TheOutletPass on Jun 15, 2010 5:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Not so sure about this ...
take game 5. Bryant got a very iffy 3 foul resulting in 3 free throws. Fisher tipped a jump ball on the way up also I think. Both were at key points. Now a Laker fan may see these as good plays but I assure you Celtics fans are questioning them … and take them away and I think the game is not as close. As fans, we tend to fixate more on the end so we remember what we don’t like at that time all the more.
I did not think the refs influenced the outcome of the game in the 5th game. They may have in game 1 and 2 via foul trouble combined with bad calls.
by Celtics_fan_in_cali on Jun 15, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Nice post
However, I still stand by my point on the Boston offense being flawed. It’s obviously a good offense, but it’s not one that will put up 100 points a game on a consistent basis on a decent defensive team. There are several reasons for this, such as the only truly consistent long-distance shooters they have are Paul Pierce and Ray Allen (Nate and Sheed can be excellent at times, but are streaky), and the fact that Pierce is the only one left on the team who can truly create his own shot at any given opportunity. Heh, really, they’re the same flaws that the Laker offense possesses.
As for the Lakers offense at full potential being able to beat any team, that’s only WITH the Laker defense playing to full potential, too. Because the Utah Jazz are a better offensive team than the Celtics (or the Lakers, most of the time) and the way the Lakers destroyed them shows that if the Lakers play defense to full potential they can hold the Celtics to 80. If the Lakers’ offense shows up to full potential, even against this Celtic defense 100 is a decent possibility.
Boston’s closers age has not led to a defeat this series in large part because their role players have stepped up throughout. However, in a closing Game Six against a team one game away from elimination, likely ALL of Boston’s Big Three will need to come through and play well together to net the win. And that hasn’t happened this series, and has only happened rarely at all since ‘08. The closest this series was last game, but even then Ray Allen didn’t hit a three. With their age, I don’t think they can match last game’s performance again with only one days’ rest.
As for the Celtic defense fouling, it’s not just a matter of it being from ‘Laker perspective’. I remember after ‘08, there was an interview on ESPN with some of the Celtics and they essentially implied as much, that they foul in a way that’s rarely called. And then, even this season, there was an interview with Perkins where he was asked ‘knowing that refs often miss illegal screen calls, do you often add a little extra mustard to your screens?’, to which Perkins replied ‘Yeah, of course. I mean, if you set an illegal screen 10 times and only get called for it twice, that’s two turnovers compared to 8 good looks’.
No, the point about getting the crowd involved isn’t exactly desperation about the series as it is frustration over the label given to Laker fans due to the fake fans in the first few rows.
And as for Pierce, he’s ragging on his own people in snide little comments. He’s calling Laker fans less intelligent than Celtic fans when up until Danny Ainge brought him KG and Ray Allen, he was a Laker fan himself. He’s a smug, two-faced little bitch.
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 14, 2010 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow,
Saurav, you are a passionate guy on the Lakers! I would not get too too wrapped up with something one has no direct control over though. Personally I like the Celtics since I followed them for years and it is fun watching good basketball since I like to play.
A comment on your post though. Yes, the Lakers are a better offensive team than the Celtics thanks to Bryant being so super. But I don’t think Pierce is the only one who can create shots out of nothing for the Celtics. Rondo is really really good on creating his own shot in addition to Pierce. I know he is more limited than Pierce, but he can get up a high percentage shot most time due to his quickness and freakish athleticism, and his outside shot is not as bad as many Lakers fans maintain. You might buy that after him only having one bad shooting game (which were mostly missed layups by the way … hard shots given the good defence but ones he often hits). The only reason it is Pierce handling the ball for late shots is that Rondo is a poor foul shooter and maybe even worse under pressure from the foul line. He needs to fix this to get to the next level … even more than improving the outside shot.
Keep in mind Allen also has hit a lot of big, high pressure shots the last few years. He usually needs someone to make a pass or set a screen. But he shoots very quick though and this prevents people cheating off him which gives Rondo and Pierce space too. KG can create too when healthy … but he is very up and down this season. You saw some of his moves last game though which could bode badly for the Lakers if (I doubt it) he maintains it over the games to come.
My opinion is at this level of basketball it is mostly about matchups and how they get exploited.
by Celtics_fan_in_cali on Jun 15, 2010 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Rondo's created shots
consist mostly of drives and it is not the same as creating space for a fadeaway or any of the hard shots of the game that Pierce, and to a higher extent Kobe, can make. To say he can create his own shot means that like Pierce and Kobe he can take the contact create the space and nail the jumpshot most of the time. Rondo has only hit wide open jumpers this series and that is because we give them to him. I don’t see that number being maintained if he’s got a defender in his face.
As for Allen, he’s the key to spacing on your offense. With him hitting shots and being the deadly shooter he is, its a given that we have to guard him as closely as possible. KG can create, but as you said he is very up and down and I also doubt he maintains it for another game with so little rest and so much travel.
I have seen a lot of Celtics games this year
and some of Rondo’s pressure shots are amazing. It does not look like he has space but he gets the shot up due to being so fast. He even scored an alley oop (spelling?) with just a fraction of a second left to put a game in overtime. Those kind of things are just shocking for a 6’1" guy.
If only he could shoot free throws under pressure I am pretty sure that he would handle the ball for the last shot. Pierce since recovering from the knee problem is closer to old form though and is much more versatile and can shoot free throws. So right now he is the best choice. The Lakers Bryant is maybe the best ever at creating his own shot and hitting high difficulty shots. Better than Jordan I think. Jordan just somehow made things look easy.
by Celtics_fan_in_cali on Jun 15, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
and to add to this
may be the celtics’ need for a player to create his own shot is not as big as the lakers’ purely because their style of play with ball movement (even at crunch time) might still get them a better shot than when a celt tries to create his own shot?
i know we go more often than not to pp isos in end game/quarter situations, which is still decent money (not probably as much money as kobe’s though, but still very effective when you work the percentages).
now, if that’s the case (assuming we all agree on that), how does it matter if the lakers are a better team in having individual players being able to create their own shot? right? point agreed, but does it affect outcome of games? imo, no.
again, to restate, kg/ray/pp are all still very very good in the clutch and more importantly, not afraid of taking clutch shots even if they are less capable than some of the lakers in creating it on their own. and isn’t that good enough? in effect it basically comes down to what each team does best and what works for each team best. as long as the teams realize that and play to their strengths/identity, they both have a great shot at winning the game. you don’t want ray allen trying to imitate kobe’s tough shot and you don’t want ron to do a ray like spot-up shot, period.
mm mm..
boston’s and lakers’ offense/defense → i can make the same argument as you do. if boston plays to full potential on defense, they would not have to score 100 on offense against any team in the nba. so the argument of boston not being able to cross 100 becomes a moot point. but i guess this dialogue can go on for ever. guess we can just agree to disagree on this.
boston’s closers’ age → i agree that its a factor which is a disadvantage for the celtics definitely. but, its not been a factor in these playoffs so far (or at least, its not the only reason that we lost some of the games we did). and i’m not too worried about it, as a celtic fan. they have handled it well as a team and i don’t expect it to suddenly be a problem in game 6. its too big a game for this to be a factor imo.
celtic’s defense fouling → nice reference, had no clue perk had said that. if that’s the case, then i have to agree with you to a certain extent. but i also heard that doc had sent quite some tape to the league about a lot of moving laker screens. haven’t myself gone back to games to see about that, but i guess its a very common problem in the league today. may be boston does it more than the others.
pierce → i did not know he was a laker fan till ray/kg joined him, i just assumed he stopped being a laker fan when he joined the celts. i went to kansas, so i’ve always been a fan of pp, just did not follow him very closely till ’05 or so. he flops, but hey, a lot of people do. give the man some credit for coming back from near death and doing stuff he is doing today, he is a warrior!
Two Games Away
If wishes were the horses…………..!
if lakers dont win
how many players from the bench stay?
1? the 1 being morrison
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-Darryl Dawkins
Hrmm
Desperation, we should play that way, unleash the inner beast. It’s something we haven’t seen this series from the Lakers (outside of the Mamba).
It’s something the Celtics used to win 3 games. That’s the damn truth.
For me its the consistent inconsistency that concerns me - PAGFL
It's always AMMO Time, in spirit- DexterFishmore
As a Celtics Fan, I hope (and believe) Boston will close out in Game Six. Why do you think only Lakers will bring THE passion to Game Six (and not Boston as well)?
because we are lakers fan??
"You are asking me if LeBron is going to New York?, I’m trying to tell you in a polite way, I don’t give a shit"
Um, this is a Lakers fan site?
"Prejudice not founded on reason cannot be removed by argument." - Samuel Johnson
You better hope they close it in 6.
Cause if it goes 7 you’re in big, big trouble.
All Pressure on the Lakers.
I am so proud of The Boston Celtics! We are on the brink of Banner 18. I am sure that LA will come out pumped, but once we withstand the initial burst (and the game is called evenly, I pray), then The Celtics will be right there in it.
The Boston Celtics have overcome all odds to get to this point – Just One More Win!!
Took 2 in CLE..took 2 in ORL…took one in LA!
You owe us one more, LA..give it on up!
GameTime!
Or it could be like Game 1 again...
For me its the consistent inconsistency that concerns me - PAGFL
It's always AMMO Time, in spirit- DexterFishmore
You won 2 of 3 at home...congrats
That is all…that is all
I normally agree and want an evenly called game
But you know what, with the way the games were called in Boston, f it. I want Lakers whistles in 6. We’ll play an even game 7, cool with u?
Bit of desperate analysis...
You guys, much like what Cavs fans did, over value your overall team. Not the superstars, Gasol and Bryant, but the rest of the team. I actually think its a disservice to your superstars to do so. As a Celtics fan that’s why I felt pretty confident going in LA would loose in 6 at Staples, because of your bench and bit players.
Using a regular season game in December against an under sized Jazz opponent as a point of reference to the later stages of an NBA finals against another championship team, that happens to be the Celtics, is pretty weak. That game footage after watching the finals games looks like its being played in slow motion. Why not show a relevant sequence of plays from these finals?
Calling the Celtics “old” at this point is just well “old hat”, I am sorry but the team that has looked gassed in game 2-5 has been the Lakers because you have gotten zero quality bench play. More than them playing and playing well is the lack of trust being bestowed upon them to provide rest for your two most important positions. Speaking of trust what happens now on PP if he is money?
You don’t think the mins by Gasol and Bryant aren’t adding up? Are they going to be erased by one night at home in their own beds? Is Bynum going to sleep in hyperbolic chamber that magically heals his knee? Is Lamar going to come out of his diabetic flu induced coma? Can Ron Artest overcome getting lit up by PP and those two free throws when he is a head case to begin with? And will anyone respond to Kobe’s frustrated tantrum? In a way its like privatizing the win for Kobe and socializing the losses, tough position to play positively and stay motivated from.
Better yet, as has been stated, there comes a point when one team along with both of the fan base comes to the subconscious realization that one team is better and is going to win. That point came in game 5 after its build up from game 2-5. That is why Fisher is desperately flopping on every shot and Bryant had to try and win it on his own, something that would have been better served for game 6. None of it helped since the defensive end cant be won on flops and one man. And thats where the Lakers greatest problem now lies. Kobe reiterates it at every presser.
If the Celtics keep their composure this one is in the books, there is nothing LA can do to take it from them as it stands now. Its theirs to loose regardless of HCA. I also really doubt the calls are simply going to swing wildly in favor of the Lakers that would make this whole thing look like a farce. The boys will be allowed to play.
Hopefully for you guys next year Bynum is healthy and still able to play, Artest learns the triangle and Odom finds some sort of motivation on a consistent basis. Thanks for a great series.
Your bit of counter analysis is every bit as reaching as Saurav's
Keep your Celtics propaganda at home. One group of fans will be right and one will be wrong, but until we find out for sure, all both sides have are opinions.
This is exactly what I think
Laker fans (or sports fans in general) can be blinded by their passion and optimism so that they lose touch with reality. The celtics are the better club and barring injury, I dont see any way LA is winning this. If yall just think HCA or KB "not letting us lose" is gonna win them two games then your in for a rude awakening.
Faith.... a fan's biggest downfall
by desecrator09 on Jun 14, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions
And some fans can be blinded just as badly by their pessimism
although the 2nd group is limited to … well, you.
lol okay then, tell where Im being blinded
Faith.... a fan's biggest downfall
by desecrator09 on Jun 14, 2010 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe it was the post of the fat lady singing that gave it away
Before the series is truly over
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
lol I just did that to piss ppl off
It seemed like it worked
Faith.... a fan's biggest downfall
by desecrator09 on Jun 14, 2010 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Really?
because that’s the type of shit that will get you banned. I thought it was funny, but if you are purposefully trying to piss people off, we could remove you …
wow you thought it was funny?
Refreshing to here but alright Ill knock that crap off
Faith.... a fan's biggest downfall
by desecrator09 on Jun 14, 2010 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I was wrong about you. You're not an ass.
You’re a douche.
"Prejudice not founded on reason cannot be removed by argument." - Samuel Johnson
by SoCalGal on Jun 14, 2010 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
douche is worse than an ass?
Faith.... a fan's biggest downfall
by desecrator09 on Jun 14, 2010 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I've got worse words
but this is a family-friendly site
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 14, 2010 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions
After every loss
it’s like clockwork. Maybe you will end up being right, maybe the Lakers lose this time. But, if you are, it’s like my broken watch. It’s still right twice a day
lol I barely came here for the first time all series yesterday
Faith.... a fan's biggest downfall
by desecrator09 on Jun 14, 2010 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions
funny shit man
But I kid you not. Imightve stopped by a game thread somewhere but thats about it. If you could prove me wrong then ill just stfu.
Faith.... a fan's biggest downfall
by desecrator09 on Jun 14, 2010 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't doubt that you weren't around much
when the Lakers looked to be ahead in the series.
Here’s my point: If you were a fan of the Celtics, and you only showed up after Lakers losses to proclaim the series over in favor of the C’s, and posting pictures of fat ladies singing, and accusing anybody who thinks the Lakers might still win of blind optimism, you would be labeled a troll.
Since you supposedly root for the Lakers, you haven’t been labeled as such. My question to you is what is the difference between you and a rival troll? Serious question, what is the difference?
Just to head things off before they start, nobody else should be answering this question
I feel you there bro
For me, the difference is that when I say something negative, Ill usually back it up with reasons and some observations whereas a random troll wouldnt. Theyd just gloat and talk shit with no analysis and stuff. Granted, that picture didnt say shit but most of my comments have ammo with them. If you want me to give some more specific reasons why I dont think we’ll win this series then just let me know. That was a great question though.
Faith.... a fan's biggest downfall
by desecrator09 on Jun 14, 2010 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions
also,
when fans say stuff like we’ll win because they have faith and not say anything else, then it kinda pisses me off because they dont offer much analysis why they think they’d win. If I ever said someone is a blind fan when they’ve actually provided legit reasons for their opinions then my argument just went down the crapper.
Faith.... a fan's biggest downfall
by desecrator09 on Jun 14, 2010 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Some comments from this season from you, my fellow SSRer
- i have to say after really looking at the Jamison trade
we Laker fans should be shaking right now. He can guard LO which they werent able to do before the trade. He can spread the floor and drag Pau outside which is bad. Shaq already cancels out Bynum so that takes one of our bigs out of the series. If Shaq gets tired, they’ll just bring Big Z in who gave us all sorts of trouble. Not to mention we have absolutely no answer for Mo Williams. Oh, and they have that guy named Lebron who’s supposed to be okay. Hate to say it, but we are no longer the favs the win the title. Defending champions or not, that was LAST YEARS team. Cavs will also get homecourt which is huge in the Finals. Well, at least we brought a championship back to LA after a tough 7 yr drought. Savor it folks, cuz it looks like Lebron is ruling the league for the next 10 yrs. :(
- again im not buying the finger stuff as an excuse
when he shot well for a whole month after the injury. His shooting struggles have been because of barely any lift in his shot and many other fans have noticed it. Thats aging and its not gonna get much better unfortunetely. I honestly think Pau is this team’s best player now. He’s carried us after the All Star break.
Basically, the two themes all year were that the Cavs were better than the Lakers, and that Kobe was bad play was due to aging (not injury).
Now before you look up my quotes, I am wrong a looooot (Hell, I said the Lakers would swept Boston – but with a 12.5% confidence level), the difference here is that I don’t claim to be a “realist” or “rational” with my opinions, or even that I am “right most of the time”.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
your right those comments were pretty wrong haha
and I m exaggerating when i say Im a realist but Ive said things that werent wrong as well. But i get where your coming from when you think im a cocky sumbitch. My fault.
Faith.... a fan's biggest downfall
by desecrator09 on Jun 14, 2010 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
That's OK
because I know you will be happy if the Lakers can pull this off.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
backtrack faster and faster...
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 14, 2010 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Look even if the Lakers lose, you will still have been wrong
Because the rational opinion is not “The Lakers will lose” any more than it is “The Lakers will win”.
The true rational opinion is “We don’t know, let’s wait and see”.
I’m not always rational, but I don’t claim to be, as you do.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
and if you think Im a die hard pessimist
go over to TLN. They practically root against the Lakers.
Faith.... a fan's biggest downfall
by desecrator09 on Jun 14, 2010 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Just because they root against the Lakers, it doesn't mean you're any less a pessimist.
Just means you have company.
"Prejudice not founded on reason cannot be removed by argument." - Samuel Johnson
You can be a pessimist all you want
Just don’t claim to be rational or a realist, too.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gil Meriken on Jun 14, 2010 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
good quote here:
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
Thats pretty good
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by desecrator09 on Jun 14, 2010 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I heard someone say optimist!
You say it 5 times in a dark bathroom, spin in a circle and I’ll appear in your mirror!
true story
I only need 2 words for my sig now....."FUCK BOSTON"
There's no way this is over...
There are still two games (at most) to play and if you really think that the Lakers aren’t going to come out hungry and angry and ready to play.. Well, nothing I can say will change your mind.
As a Celtics fan, I’ll tell you one thing though… I’m scared for tomorrow. Boston is toast if they come out cocky and over confident. For the C’s to win, they have to come out and play like they’re trailing 3-1 and are battling for survival. Do I think the Lakers are just going to make it easy for them? H*ll no. Lakers on home court, they’re a force to be reckoned with.
Aussie Girl, Celtics Fan.
So if they come out with Simulacra's attitude, they'll lose?
Who woulda thought it….
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 14, 2010 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know, man...
This entire series (the whole of the playoffs actually, from the perspective of a C’s fan) feels like it’s been very up-and-down. I feel like the second I think I know what’s going to happen, the world tilts and everything is different again.
I feel like if Boston comes out over-confident and cocky, they’re going to play looser and sloppier – Great news for Lakers fans! :)
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you call yourself a fan?
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by Kobe:The Legend on Jun 14, 2010 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually before game 5, LA has been the better team all series.
We blew 2 4th qtrs in the previous 2 losses (games 2, 4). LA controlled the first 3 qtrs of those games.
Game 5 was the first time the Celts played well for a full game.
By thinking they will play the same way (and Lakers so poorly), you’re also blinding yourself.
no one is going to give you props for being "realistic"
when you’re just being doom and gloom.
everyone knows the lakers are capable of beating boston 2 games at home, even boston. honestly, i’m sure they are terrified they have to win 1 more in LA. If they aren’t, they aren’t very smart. The fact that everyone on the planet except for some Celtics homers and the worst Laker fan in history, that’s you desecrator, are the only ones who believe the series is over should be a telling fact.
If it’s not clear, I’ll state it. You have no idea what you are talking about. None, whatsoever.
No chance Boston is "terrified" of anything
Certainly, they’re not underrating what the Lakers can do.
But being scared doesn’t even enter into it.
by TheOutletPass on Jun 15, 2010 4:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Bit of Homerrific analysis
1st- Don’t compare us to the Cavs. They are not in the same league as the Lakers, thus they are sitting at home. The Celtics have won 1 more game lol Im confident the Lakers will win with help from our role and “bit” players
I think that’s a BIG if concerning PP….He has been money in 1 game and i dont think it’s gonna be a repeat of that in L.A. The Celtics are old. Their ages support that fact. Whether or not they play old is up to the Lakers and their defense.
The minutes arent gonna matter at all tomorrow night. You hoping they do aint gonna make it happen. Bynum doesnt need to be 100% as he clearly showed the Celtics in the 1st 3 games. LO is what he is. He might show up big. He might not. He could very likely show up huge which would make the game easier for the Lakers. 4 games of great D vs 1 game of Pierce hitting everything. I wouldnt worry about Ron. I’d be nervous about Pierce reverting back to his series form tho. Kobe getting on his teammates is a tantrum? Will Big Baby cry if KG yells at him again? or will he scream to the bench like he did earlier in the playoffs? " I fucked up sniffle sniffle" teardrop.
Are you serious? lol The Lakers now realize the Celtics are the better team? hahahahaha You shoot better than 55% to the Lakers 39% and still had to fight for the win and ultimately win by 6..That is most definitely asserting dominance over a team lol the Lakers have shot 45% or better in 3 of the 5 games vs 2 for the Celtics..I doubt the Lakers lose focus on the defensive end in game 6.
It’s the LAKERS series to WIN right now…They have 2 games at home. The Celtics lose game 6 they wont win game 7 in L.A.
Too bad after the Lakers take these last 2 games Ray will be gone, Sheed and KG will be washed up and the Celtics championship window will be pretty much slammed shut. It was nice while it lasted. Dust off those Beautiful Brown Paper Bags, you’re gonna need em next year!
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I didnt compare you to the cavs, I compared you to the Cavs fans in over valuing your own bench and bit players in regards to analysis. I am also glad your confident hopefully it somehow rubs off on the players on the court, they need it right now.
I actually thought PP had two pretty decent games in a row and that he is in a great rhythm but hey your not going to agree with me on that one. Its a subjective opinion. In regards to age as well it was used in the analysis above in a derogatory format and has been from the start and I think its been pretty off the mark. The shining example being KG’s demise, I dont know about you but he looked pretty ok last game didnt he? Stat line looked good as well. Again perhaps that’s just blatant fanboy eyeglasses I have on. Im sure if one of your guys had the same stat line you’d take it. But of course he is just going to fail to show up and instead its more believable a member of LAs bench is just going to suddenly show up.
I don’t have to hope for anything, since game 1 its been apparent to anyone without blinders on that mins and lack of production and trust for the Lakers bench has been a problem in the 4th quarter for Kobe and Gasol. Along with the facts known as Bynum’s torn meniscus and fluid filled knee. I think as well there exists a fair amount of Lakers fans that worry alot about Ron and his trajectory in this series. Including the demands to trade him in the off season, along with Odom. Why is everyone screaming for someone to step up? That is a bit of hope right there. In fact a whole lot of hope.
Im glad you pointed out the 55% shooting thats on account of easy buckets and a lack of defense, courtesy of the Lakers. I am sure that is just a switch that will be turned on though right? Must be a switch somewhere in the bowels of Staples. Why not turn it on when your man is going for 23 points in a row? Seems like an appropriate time. Make it worth his effort to be doing so.
Other fans who lack a real life might need a paper bag mate Ill be too busy shagging my sexy swedish wife here in Frisco and living the dream, been at it for a decade now, nothing gonna change on that front. I work 4 hours a day 3 days a week live high on the hog and have my health care, retirement, stable government and economy in Scandinavia in my back pocket in the event of the economic earthquake looming on the horizon. I dont need the Cs to win like you probably need the Lakers to win to enrich my existence.
If the Cs suck they suck, I will watch any ball game on TV, NCAA or NBA for the pure entertainment value and love of the game I enjoyed playing growing up. Ive been doing it for years that’s why I can stay somewhat objective and inform you where its at and why I think this series is D-O-N-E. I can also inform you both the Cs and Lakers will return to glory at some point and probably meet again some sunny day, its due to their organizations being committed to winning, just like in any other sport. That is how a rivalry is born in the first place, it doesn’t appear suddenly like a fart in the wind or a subjective fanboy’s opinion.
It's kind of funny
You only look at last game and not the series as a whole which is a much larger sample size of the Lakers D ….55% last game what about before then? I dont think i’m far off from expecting the Lakers to play D like they have prior to last game. 1 game outweighs 4 others? lol And you base your faith on that?
Now it’s PP had 2 pretty decent game but before you were proclaiming he torched Ron which he did last game but again Look at the series as a WHOLE. They dont back up your argument. It’s more likely he will revert back to his play prior to game 5 based on looking at the series prior 4 games….
Where was KG the 1st 2 games in LA? Why should we expect him to show up in LA when he didnt before? Again look at the series as a whole not wit green goggles after a home game.
It’s the internet. Everybody has a sexy wife and plenty money and blah blah blah blah whatever. who cares about your personal life and whether what you say is true or not lol I dont believe it but hey who am i to question it if it makes you feel better lol
Commitment to winning….where was that for 23 years? Now that is a commitment i like right there…Lakers in 7 and i would love to see you back here afterwards
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I'll let you take care of this...
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 14, 2010 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, shit.
I just saw his ad hominem insult there, implying you have no life and desperately need the Lakers to win to fulfill your life…
As well as the ‘subjective fanboy’ call.
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 14, 2010 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Interesting that Simulacra has more comments here than on CB, don't ya think?
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 14, 2010 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Yea sorry...
It was in response to being told I take things so seriously that I would actually have to hide my face with a paper bag. Not really analysis is it. I didn’t drive the car into the gutter I am afraid to say.
So there isn't a precedent for it? ok i made it up....
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Holy Smokes!
There has been Brown Paper Bag Fans in Boston! Opinions can be debated. The truth is set in stone. have a nice day Simulacra!
I only need 2 words for my sig now....."FUCK BOSTON"
Awesome story.
Well… not really. Pretty poorly written piece of fiction actually.
The half-crazed ramblings of a Lakers fanatic living in Japan...
this, this, this
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 14, 2010 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmmm
You’re being dismissive before this series is even over? Lmao, and people call Laker fans arrogant. You’d get along great with desecrator.
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 14, 2010 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions
It's cool with me if the Lakers are loose
Just not if they lose.
They really need to stop the Boston sports fan breeding program. No critical thinking, just all this false bravado based on something someone else does. It’d be a lot more annoying if it weren’t so darn pathetic.
Out! And with the far less effort than the first responder troll!
by USA!USA!USA! on Jun 15, 2010 4:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Heh....
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 16, 2010 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Man
It pains me to see what the sports stations are saying about the Lakers now that they have lost.I’ve been seeing all day long how The mamba is good but not when cornered,Kobe can’t do it by himself, all this really pains me to read and look at.The Lakers are better than this and it’s true that Kobe’s support cast needs to help him keep this ship afloat until the championship continues to reign in L.A.If we are to be respected as Champions we need to show the heart of a champion.We shouldn’t lay down like this for this team if we are going to die I say lets die hard.Boston is a good team yes but we are better than they are and we shouldn’t be having these problems with these guys.It’s hard to stomach man.
by LakersMania on Jun 14, 2010 7:07 PM PDT reply actions
according to
some odd fellow I know, his fortune telling friend said the Boston wins it all but there is a game 7. i disagree though, fate can change.
I was thinking Tim Donaghy...
the bookselling gypsy.
"Winning takes talent; to repeat takes character." - John Wooden
2 days rest
seem like the celtic play well on the game after a 2 days rest. they kind of evenly struggle like the laker on a 1 day rest. odd maker still give lakers favor by 6 1/2.
talking about sasha
i remembered there is one game during the regular season. when sasha maked 3 shot in a row and the time out come. he walk to the sideline and PJ yell at him for something since then i notice he is playing like not the way he use to play. even at that time when PJ yelled at sasha Pau look at Phil and look away with a kind of disbelief showing.if you look at the lakers bench player you probably notice that they are not happy at all… they just sit there quietly watch the game.
S_O_F_T
The Lakers aren’t underperforming because of any deep, hidden reason. They played three soft defensive teams from the West and are not built for a physical series. All the pundits can talk about how they proved their toughness last year, but again they played the Magic, not the Celtics. Gasol hasn’t been any tougher, he has flopped and cried his way back to ineffectiveness against a team with a spine…..“Floppy the Llama” is regressing. The Lakers are a great team and Kobe is the best the NBA has to offer, but they will need to dig deeper than ever to beat the Celtics. Watch for Ray Allen to carry the Cs in game 6……
You created an account just to post that?
If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose.
Just take the ball inside- LakersForDeuce and just about everybody else on SSR
All I saw in that post was...
‘Kobe is the best the NBA has to offer’ ……
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DAMN MOTHERFUCKING RIGHT!
LOL Jevon
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be committed against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the Limelight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
It's Funny that you mention the Flopping -
Did you see when Ron Artest “Embellished” Just a tad when Rajon Rondo pushed him away from his teammate last night? I was rolling on the floor after that one…here’s Artest – all 260 plus pounds at 6’7"….against Rondo at 6’1" and maybe 180 pounds…and Ron Ron flops right out of bounds like he’s been hit by a train!
GameTime!
by Celtics18and19 on Jun 14, 2010 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions
At least he didn't call for a wheelchair.
"Prejudice not founded on reason cannot be removed by argument." - Samuel Johnson
by SoCalGal on Jun 14, 2010 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
This is So Funny...
You all just won’t let that one go, huh?
The way he’s been serving Ron Ron, maybe Paul should reserve one for him:)
GameTime!
by Celtics18and19 on Jun 14, 2010 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions
hahaha
Faith.... a fan's biggest downfall
by desecrator09 on Jun 14, 2010 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
You mean he has more than one?
It’s even worse than i thought.
If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose.
Just take the ball inside- LakersForDeuce and just about everybody else on SSR
And he could very well soon....
…Have more than one ring.
Get it Done, C’s!!
GameTime!
by Celtics18and19 on Jun 14, 2010 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions
He very well could, but he won't get any more.
And he certainly won’t ever get 4.
"Prejudice not founded on reason cannot be removed by argument." - Samuel Johnson
by SoCalGal on Jun 14, 2010 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe not...
…but his potential 2nd ring will give Boston 18 Banners.
It’s all about the Banners. Yes, Kobe has 4, but LA has 15 Banners.
GameTime!
by Celtics18and19 on Jun 14, 2010 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
The difference is that LA has the potential for more, while Boston will be at 18 forever
if they win this one.
"Prejudice not founded on reason cannot be removed by argument." - Samuel Johnson
Hey, welcome back.
Haven’t seen you in a week. And the answer is no.
"Prejudice not founded on reason cannot be removed by argument." - Samuel Johnson
No, about letting Boston just have this championship.
"Prejudice not founded on reason cannot be removed by argument." - Samuel Johnson
Wow, does California Waves miss him. So much.
Saying "Hello With Malice" seven times will wake the dead.
I'm still really sorry
about that whole thing. I had no idea what would happen. I just wanted to come and see what it was like on the other side of the fence. I never meant for so much to go down.
And since I know I’m universally hated around her, I’ll make a break for safer places. Good luck for Games 6 & 7, Laker fans. Thanks for the tough and entertaining series thus far.
Aussie Girl, Celtics Fan.
I don't hate you!
But then again, I didn’t have any part in what happened.
Saying "Hello With Malice" seven times will wake the dead.
Lmao, you're not hated around here.
You’re actually one of the most reasonable C’s fans to show up. You, Celtics18and9, Celts_fan_in_cali, keychey etc.
Plus, you’re Aussie. :P
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 14, 2010 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Ha!
And you think LA will continue to win titles? Both yours and our roads to future Finals aren’t getting any easier – you all will have a Healthy Portland team, a more experienced OKC team, Dallas, San Antonio, Denver and Utah.
You all could very well be stuck at 15, too.
GameTime!
by Celtics18and19 on Jun 14, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Dallas and OKC will be legitimate threats, OKC the tougher team to deal with.
As for San Antonio, they are in worse shape than Boston. Portland is an unknown until Oden and Pryzbilla come back healthy (and it may not be the start of next season). Denver will still be dealing with Karl’s illness, even if he comes back next season, and Utah is Utah.
"Prejudice not founded on reason cannot be removed by argument." - Samuel Johnson
Oh yeah?
Oh…yeah? Well…we’re the ones who will…not be stuck at…um…at zero! Yeah!
Oh, how I wish were at the same level as you guys…
Saying "Hello With Malice" seven times will wake the dead.
For a guy/gal who complains about people saying the Celtics are old and get no respect...
you sure want to apply that label to the Lakers. Hypocrite.
"Winning takes talent; to repeat takes character." - John Wooden
How old are you?
Not a personal attack, just want to know if you were even alive for any of those banners asides from the one in ’08.
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 14, 2010 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions
where is this serving you speak of?
game 5? what about games 1-4? C’s fans have short memories
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Have you been watching different games?
Cause I’ve seen Pierce have a HORRIBLE series except for 1 game. Hmm. Odd.
Speakign of which given the fan obsession with the topic ...
here is a link that you might find interesting on the wheel chair incident.
About That Wheelchair
http://www.celticsblog.com/2010/6/6/1504006/about-that-wheelchair
You guys who fixate on this are very very wrong though. Pierce is a tough guy. He has routinely played hurt and never used it as an excuse. I can understand why other teams fans hate him since he is good and has a mouth and flops to ensure the whistle while being very strong. You guys have the same in Fisher (perhaps sans mouth) but seem to love him. Pierce also had a similar knee injury to Bynum and got it drained and played through it (poorly by the way) earlier in the season. This was the time people all predicted the end of the Celtics in part to him being badly out of sync. It got infected from all the draining too (which may prove a scary issue for Bynum too).
Most NBA players are quite tough and play well banged up to the extent a rec league player like me can only imagine. Very few of these guys are soft and I think they all try quite hard. Some are just capable of more.
by Celtics_fan_in_cali on Jun 14, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes I think more people fixate on the wheelchair
But it’s the flopping that really cements his rep.
Pierce is tough, no doubt, but he acts almost as good as Fisher, except he is a better player and doesn’t need that stuff, yet he continues to exaggerate slight contact as a means of getting the call.
Some people don’t like that Kobe complains about calls, and some people don’t like that Pierce tries to sell a lot of the calls he gets.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gil Meriken on Jun 14, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Kobe yells when he gets fouled but does everything in his power to finish the play anyway.
Paul Pierce just falls over and complains like there is no tomorrow if there isn’t a call (and there almost always is)
There is a distinct difference.
Yep
it’s not necessarily related to “toughness”, is my point, any more than Kobe working the refs makes him a “whiny” person
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
Regardless...
When Pierce went down with that injury, he was screaming, and to watch it you would believe that the wheelchair was ALMOST warranted. But then – minutes later – to run out?
No, Paul Pierce’s reputation as a bit of a drama queen is well-deserved.
The half-crazed ramblings of a Lakers fanatic living in Japan...
by With Malice on Jun 14, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes but it's a different issue than toughness
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gil Meriken on Jun 14, 2010 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry ...
but an MCL tear hurts like hell. I am not sure how he played well in the games after it when the swelling sets in.
Good NBA players are amazing how they can compensate for injury. Bryant is a case in point too. Garnett likewise. I am not sure how he was playing on one leg much of the year. Not great … but better than should be possible. But I do think it is easier for a big inside player to play with an injury since size helps even if mobility is lost. Bryant and Pierce have to be reasonably quick though.
Bryant, by the way, does not look as quick to me as two years ago but is much better in the post now. The quick aspect could be due to age, injury, or him being around Rondo a lot on defence. Or perhaps some combination thereof.
by Celtics_fan_in_cali on Jun 15, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Well then...
Why did Perkins, with a more severe injury, not need a wheelchair? Whilst Pierce, suffering from a ligament STRAIN, started writhing around like he’d been shot; Perkins, having torn two ligaments, simply sat down, pointed to his knee, and rolled over.
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 17, 2010 6:37 AM PDT up reply actions
He exagerrated quite a bit
But mainly because he probably wouldn’t have got that call if he had stood there solid.
There are quite a few good actors in this series, aren’t there? Fisher and Pierce love to sell those plays!
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
maybe true ...
but I wish it were not. It detracts from the quality of the basketball. This is one thing that the NBA should seriously consider fixing in the future with a rule tweak. It is too late now for this year and consequently a part of the game as you say.
Anderson Varejao on Cleveland is the all time flopper. He is seriously annoying.
Pierce I think mostly embellishes the hits to try to cement the call. But I have seen him take dives with almost no contact. Fisher though seems like it is almost central to his game. But he is amazingly good at it.
by Celtics_fan_in_cali on Jun 15, 2010 1:35 AM PDT up reply actions
One key difference...
And you touched on it. With Fish, there will be contact, and yes – he will sell it.
With Pierce, there doesn’t even need to be contact.
And it’s the histrionics that occur just after it that make him… well, somewhat despised.
The half-crazed ramblings of a Lakers fanatic living in Japan...
Case in point. Late in the 4th of game 5.
Kobe stands next to Pierce. Pierce falls over to keep from running out of bounds. Foul on Kobe.
last time I checked
theres no such thing as a soft team that has won an NBA title. The idea that a team who went all the way last year against tough opponents in the West last year is complete bullshit.
oh and if you want to see flopping, you should probably consider watching Paul Pierce and Ray Allen for a whole game.
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
a very passionate write up indeed
however one of the two teams have to lose and whether we like it or not the lakers at this moment appear to be the underdogs going into game 6, I just hope it is a good game where two champion teams gave everything and may the better performing one win!
we should just constantly rub in the underdog/ media disrespect from here on out...
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
Nope. No way you can do that.
All ESPN have been talking about ALL YEAR is The Lakers….Charles Barkley saying on TNT several times how the Lakers can win a title for next 3-4 years…6 out of 10 ESPN writers picking you all.
The Boston Celtics are still the underdogs in this one. We won’t get the respect we deserve unless we can close you all out. It will be tough – the Lakers are a prideful bunch, but I love our Opportunity.
Kobe is All-Universe and Gasol is a top 3 PF, but I still love the Opportunity we have here.
GameTime!
by Celtics18and19 on Jun 14, 2010 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not necessarily disagreeing with your argument that the Lakers have been favored
but 6 out of 10 is not a margin large enough to take offense from …
Good Point, C.A....
It’s just that when all you’ve heard year-long is how old, tired, beat-up the Celtics are – but yet here we are – it just seems like the media has been skewed one way.
And then you throw in the constant barrage of Muppet Commercials, featuring Kobe and Lebron.
GameTime!
by Celtics18and19 on Jun 14, 2010 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions
It's amazing how the Celtics have turned
I actually pitied them in the regular season, especially when many of the fans at Celtics Blog gave up on the team mid-season (I didn’t dare post then).
It must be really rewarding for those who stuck through it to see this team playing the way they are playing.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
Too diplomatic Gil, but we love you for it. You truly are our Ambassador.
"Winning takes talent; to repeat takes character." - John Wooden
It's true
Can you imagine 10x the desecrators telling you to “get real”? And now they’re one game away from the title?
Still … I hope they stay one game away from the 2010 title … forever.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
So let it be written, so let it be done!
"Winning takes talent; to repeat takes character." - John Wooden
Your presence is being requested in the tiny chat.
"Winning takes talent; to repeat takes character." - John Wooden
Well...I wouldn't say many..that is painting with too wide a brush there.
But a few of us did….that is to be expected. For many of us, though, we always maintained that we would see how they faired in the playoffs.
Most of us stuck by them, waiting for the switch to flip on.
And boy has it!
MIA? Done.
CLE? Defeated.
ORL? Gone Fishin’.
LA? Could be next.
Dwight Howard may need to get a bigger boat. Artest and Bynum are big men for a boat.
GameTime!
by Celtics18and19 on Jun 14, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
From when I was reading the comments on Celtics Blog
There was more than few, but less than a majority that gave up on the Celtics, and those are just the ones who publicly admitted it
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
I follow the Celtics all year and watched most of the games
and I am totally shocked they made it here even much less are competing.
Usually you are what you are in the nba record wise. Teams cannot turn it on and off. Teams with injury problems do not get healthy.
I think this case is even more extreme than the Rockets years ago. I don’t see why anybody would have picked Boston in any series including the first round … Miami was hot going into the playoffs and the Celtics were stagnant.
So this one is odd. I also do not fully buy the rest part other than for KG who clearly was playing limited minutes as well as Pierce while he was recovering from a big time knee problem (similar to Bynum now).
I’m still not sure I would pick the Celtics since they have to beat the Lakers at LA in two shots. The series is far from over. But I am very happy they have this decent chance. If anyone said they predicted this I suspect they are a strong homer or semi-delusional. This playoff is a shock. On the other hand I thought everything set up easy for the Lakers (all the teams that give you trouble were beat) which may have given a false sense of security.
by Celtics_fan_in_cali on Jun 15, 2010 1:44 AM PDT up reply actions
KG and Perkins are big men for a boat too
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
heheheheh
But not Nate he can fit on a little boat
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
Now that is Cold, Gil - LOL!
GameTime!
by Celtics18and19 on Jun 14, 2010 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
My expectations as a Cs fan...
was for them to face Cleavland based on the RS. The rest has been gravy and fun to watch. Ill take the sundae with a championship on top though tomorrow night.
Bynum doesn't have time for fishing.
He needs to heal. You can talk all you want, but the truth of the matter is that a healthy Bynum is another LA title.
And to be honest, Bynum’s play in these finals has made it overwhelmingly obvious that had he played in 08, the Lakers would be about to 3 pete…if they hadn’t already.
Damnit, this was supposed to be our year!
We had a great team, we had all the tools to dispose of Orlando and Los Angeles…I swear, if you guys don’t win it all, you will have let the Eastern Conference down so bad, because our conference is still regarded as weaker despite all the talented teams we have.
Saying "Hello With Malice" seven times will wake the dead.
Wave, don't forget where you are.
Tolerance can be fleeting.
"Prejudice not founded on reason cannot be removed by argument." - Samuel Johnson
by SoCalGal on Jun 14, 2010 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Come on, SoCalGal
Please let me at least think that we once had a team capable of winning it all!
Saying "Hello With Malice" seven times will wake the dead.
Think away, but be careful about wishing the Celtics luck here.
"Prejudice not founded on reason cannot be removed by argument." - Samuel Johnson
I’m just saying this year was a good season for the Eastern Conference. Both Cleveland and Orlando looked like teams that could dethrone the Lakers. But it was Boston who went to the Finals instead, and I’m saying they had better win or this season and the ECF championship will have gone to waste. Is that wishing the Celtics luck? I didn’t mean to do that.
Saying "Hello With Malice" seven times will wake the dead.
You're the 2-time defending regular season champs!
and back to back MVP’s.
Those muppet commercials are Nike's stupid idea...
Blame KG for wearing Adidas :)
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 14, 2010 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I liked the muppet commercial where the Lakers won the title
and Kobe came in with confetti dropping around him…and his 4 championship rings lol
I only need 2 words for my sig now....."FUCK BOSTON"
"All ESPN have been talking about ALL YEAR is The Lakers"
That is simply WRONG. ESPN has drooled over the Cavs all year, while the Lakers received repeated criticism as to whether or not they can “flip the switch” come playoff time.
If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose.
Just take the ball inside- LakersForDeuce and just about everybody else on SSR
by akb24b on Jun 14, 2010 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Absolutely. Cavs were all the rage, ever since they got Shaq last summer.
"Prejudice not founded on reason cannot be removed by argument." - Samuel Johnson
Before the playoffs it sure wasn't 6 of 10. At the risk of sounding like a whiny Celtics fan...
There are only a handful of writers who could even come close to being on the Lakers bandwagon.
Besides THE LAKERS ARE THE DEFENDING CHAMPS!!! Of course some analysts are going to pick us.
If anything you should sympathize with Lakers fans if you’re going to whine about respect. Many sports writers, etc are have been on the Magic and Cavs bandwagon all year. The Celtic showed them the stripes on those paper tigers, of course you’re not getting any love from them.
You guys keep crying about respect. The real basketball fans here at SS&R have been giving to you guys in spades, so shut up!
"Winning takes talent; to repeat takes character." - John Wooden
by Joshua S on Jun 14, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
WE'RE STILL THE CHAMPS, CODDAMMIT!!!
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
Unless
Someone else has that trophy, WE STILL THE CHAMPS! thats right!
by SoReal_Laker on Jun 15, 2010 2:14 AM PDT up reply actions
CODDAMMIT!!!
Why blame the fish?
I know, you hate me.
"Prejudice not founded on reason cannot be removed by argument." - Samuel Johnson
Saurav A. Das, to answer the topics questions
They aren’t if no one else shows up to fight with Kobe, if Kobe’s gonna be the lone soldier giving punches then Celtics got this. Not something I wanted to say because Lakers are the better team but Kobe teammates are prone to be inconsistent, prone to not go hard SO can they get that back by getting comfortable back at home and win game 6? Well it’s up to them and Kobe needs help.
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be committed against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the Limelight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
a 1 day rest
since it a coast to coast travel and with 1 day rest. i assume that both team starters will about tired at the end of 3rd quarter. i have a feeling that doc River will use his bench at the right moment for the punch . it will be interesting to see how PJ counter this. i just hope that not again the orga and donkey show
laker chat here if anyones interested
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
Do or Die
Just win game 6 Lakers, after some tough breaks at the Garden, ya’ll deserve to give yourself a Game 7 fight.
What I will be watching for is Gasol, LO, Bynum and the bench, if three of the four have a positive impact I like Lakers chances
Bring on Game 7
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be committed against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the Limelight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
tiny what? LOL j/k
I’ll think about it but thanks for the offer
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be committed against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the Limelight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
In the same vein as this post...
A little something to get you fired up for tomorrow night. I think Kobe has this in him… I said the same thing about LeBron.
Via SportsCasualties: http://bit.ly/aLodFf
Enjoy.
I was wary of clickin on this
But hey, this was good stuff!
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gil Meriken on Jun 14, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks a lot, Gil. Sorry about the link dropping. I know that’s crap protocol.
by Robbie Hilson on Jun 14, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Link dropping is fine...
But bit.ly links are always suspicious.
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 14, 2010 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Good call
Didn’t even think about that. My bad.
by Robbie Hilson on Jun 15, 2010 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Gahhhh trolls everywhere!
It’s like an infestation. We need a DECISIVE win tomorrow as that’s the only thing besides winning the title that will shut them up.
by poorwebguy on Jun 14, 2010 9:20 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
well my girl watched Lakers game for the first time
and her observation:
“i have came to notice that everyone in lakers team sucked except kobe you know he was the only one who was actually playin and he scored the most the rest of them kept on missin whenever they were given a chance to shoot”
earthquaqe!!!
Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."
at least in Palm Springs
Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."
chat?
Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."
i ran under my bed like they teach you in school lmfao
Faith.... a fan's biggest downfall
by desecrator09 on Jun 14, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I pray that no one was hurt, but some say....
That it was not really an Earthquake – but the aftereffects of The Boston Celtics Flight landing in LA!
GameTime!
by Celtics18and19 on Jun 14, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
hey i'll laugh next time. can one of the admins give this dude a warning? i'm pretty he's been warned once
"i remember one time,we was playing basketball,and we was winning the game,it was so competitive,he broke a piece of lead from a table,and he threw it and it went right through his heart and he died right on the court" - Ron Artest on wonderful childhood memories.
by eLrEiEc on Jun 14, 2010 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
A Warning?
Why? Did my comments offend you in anyway? No I haven’t been warned – on CelticsBlog, or here, before.
On here, I have been welcomed by the Laker Fans – did I type something that offended you?
GameTime!
by Celtics18and19 on Jun 14, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
don't think so...
Just a joke…obviously…
by bigdeal1188 on Jun 14, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Nothing worthy of a warning, there...
He’s admitting that his team is full of lardasses like Perkins and Big Baby… :P
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 14, 2010 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions
NBA Finals - Game 6
A lot of chit – chat and bantering about the NBA Finals thus far, and what the Laker’s need to do to win this series.
I think we can all agree, ( as much as I hate the Fn celtics ) that they play some of the most tenacious team oriented defense I’ve seen in a long time, and their offensive, and transition game works based on what they accomplish on the defense end of the floor.
So the answer in simple terms is this for the Lakers…
Score greater than 95 points per game you win. Score at or near 90 points per game, and I suspect Boston finds a way to win… What a sickening thought.
by Frankie says... on Jun 14, 2010 9:30 PM PDT reply actions
I have hope about the Lakers winning the championship but:
Kobe says there are just 2 home games away from a championship, he applies that and he is 100% focused to play to win those 2 games, but what about the another lakers, he can’t do it alone, for example: last game
The PuertoRican Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Jun 14, 2010 9:34 PM PDT reply actions
Going to the game tomorrow
I am personally guaranteeing I will lose my voice by the end of the night! Wearing a DEATH TO BOSTON shirt decked in purple and gold and bringing a sign flaunting the boston massacre. Look out for me row 12 center court i will try and pump up my entire section
STAPLES CENTER
Where PURPLE AND GOLD CORONATION will happen!
Go LAKERS!!!!
wow this is a masterpiece. best article on SS&R. true fandom, true pride, true passion.
thanks for such a wonderful read, saurav.
"i remember one time,we was playing basketball,and we was winning the game,it was so competitive,he broke a piece of lead from a table,and he threw it and it went right through his heart and he died right on the court" - Ron Artest on wonderful childhood memories.
AWE-INSPIRING!!!
Simply moved by this post Saurav, hats off brother! The Lakers shall prevail tomorrow Inshallah!!!
I don't like this stats:
Kobe: 23.7 PPG 34.2 FG pct. when facing elimination (1-2), I hope Kobe unleashes the monster
The PuertoRican Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Jun 14, 2010 10:45 PM PDT reply actions
i hate those stats
kobe alongside every laker got raped in boston in game 6 and i believe the others are against the suns where he had to do everything himself a few seasons ago
R.I.P. #34
R.I.P. JJ
"This is America, if we can’t self-righteously look down on others and blame them for our faults, the commies win."-----Cormican on Aug 13, 2009 7:28 PM PDT
That can't be right
They’re not counting his days with Shaq
Saying "Hello With Malice" seven times will wake the dead.
I think Kobe has played in more than 3 elimination games
off the top of the head:
1. 1 Against portland.
2. 2 against the Kings
3. 2 against the suns
4. 1 against pistons
5. 1 against rockets
Thats 7 at least.
TOMORROW...
I am going to wake up to a new day. It will be sunny as it mostly is in California for this time of year. i will shower, eat some food, scour the internet, get my business phone calls in order and network some more.
At 5:30 I will turn on my set, sit through the post game banter and prepare myself for one of the most anticipated moments of this year in my life. The Lakers will be battling for one more chance at the world title while Boston seeks to win the championship.
I cannot explain the anticipation or excitement I feel watching this Gold and Purple team after 31 years, in these situations it boils over into insanity… My greatest hope is we go on to win the game tomorrow and proceed to win the NBA title two days later. I can’t even tell you how happy I will be if this happens and Ive got a certain friend on my side: “Listen, if you told me at the beginning of the year that we’ve got two games at home to win a championship, yeah, I’ll take that.”
…it WILL happen.
thus spoke Nostrashuggamus
What do you call three Celtics trying to make an oreo out of Fisher? "...AND ONE! "
hmmmmmmmmmm
time and time again on game recaps, I see Kobe sagging off rondo, either letting him take an uncontested jumper (this time around, hes making them), or letting rondo roam around free to go help someone while rondo makes cuts to the rim for an easy layup.
Kobe needs to stop with the free safety defense and stick to his man. We cant afford to have rondo get these layups against us in such a critical game.
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
I phrased this really poorly
this sounds better:
time and time again on game recaps, I see Kobe sagging off rondo, either letting him take an uncontested jumper (this time around, hes making them), or letting rondo roam around free while he goes and plays help defense, and this lets rondo get cuts to the basket for easy drives.
Kobe needs to stop with the free safety defense and stick to his man. We cant afford to have rondo get these layups against us in such a critical game.
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
Also at fanshots
put yourself in your very own white hot fashion shoot!
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gil Meriken on Jun 14, 2010 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions
lakers not good enough
writer, are you smokin?…the lakers are not winning the next two home games against the celtics, the lakers are playing to the best of their ability, the celtics are just better, OFFENSIVELY AND DEFENSIVELY, FUNDAMENTALLY, AND HUSTLE PLAYS…except for Kobe, who is the best player on the planet, the lakers would never be where they are, cause he makes everyone around him better..but when you play the truly great teams, your true colors show, aint u cant hide the inadequicies that you could against average teams…This is the best your gonna see from LA..and their gona lose…And im from philly and ill admit that boston is just that much better..
by walterillich353 on Jun 15, 2010 12:12 AM PDT reply actions
Wait... what?
Could you translate that for me?
The half-crazed ramblings of a Lakers fanatic living in Japan...
Hmm... I'll try my best
Essentially, it’s borderline trolling. If he were an SBN regular, who was a Celtics fan, I’d let it go as him just expressing his opinion, happy after the Game Five win. But, considering it’s his first ever post on SBN, and he just joined today specifically to post that, trolling warning given.
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 15, 2010 1:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Sorry...
After a full day of work, my brain can only cope so much with poorly written drivel from someone with nothing better to do than troll.
The half-crazed ramblings of a Lakers fanatic living in Japan...
You fail at Internet
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by DexterFishmore on Jun 15, 2010 1:48 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
lmao...
All hail DexterFishmore, guardian of the internet!
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 15, 2010 2:00 AM PDT up reply actions
re: article
good one, Saurav. Tuckerish in length, lol
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lmao
Queensbridge. Littlerock.
"Derek Fisher shouldn't be allowed to shoot unless theres fewer than one second on the shot clock" - Kelly Dwyer
by bluexfalcon on Jun 15, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
watch an NBA game then speak english
Then we’ll value your opinion. Until then we’re going to assume you’ve watched 1 game and have no idea what you are talking about.
What does a Philly sports fan know about winning anything?
Friends don’t let friends type drunk.
"Winning takes talent; to repeat takes character." - John Wooden
But even that seems under what this team’s total potential is, considering its plethora of top-heavy offensive talent supplemented by bench players who have a propensity to occasionally light up.
Sav your like 15 aren’t you? Don’t over-use the thesaurus feature on your comp.
"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess."
-Kobe Bryant
No thesaurus feature, just an actual ability to formulate opinions and express them (not exactly concisely) with a vocabulary that extends beyond the third-grade standard crap that comprises the majority of writing on the internet...
You should try it, sometime. But maybe you’d be better served learning how to correctly spell my name, first.
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 15, 2010 1:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Moradi-7 is just mad that you made he/she use the thesaurus and the dictionary at the same time, Saurav.
"Winning takes talent; to repeat takes character." - John Wooden
and it's 'you're', just FYI
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 15, 2010 1:41 AM PDT up reply actions
lol what was thesaurus worthy? i can translate
But even that seems under what this team’s total potential is, considering it’s large number of top heavy offensive talent backed up by bench players who have a knack to occasionally catch fire…..for our fans who have a dim lightbulb!
you’re welcome you’re welcome
I only need 2 words for my sig now....."FUCK BOSTON"
Gotta correct you, there.
considering it’s large
-That’s grammatically incorrect. With the third-person singular pronoun ‘it’, the possessive form does not use an apostrophe.
Sorry, couldn’t resist. =]]
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 15, 2010 2:30 AM PDT up reply actions
i'm twice your age but you're twice as smart lol
by lakers are trouble on Jun 15, 2010 2:34 AM PDT up reply actions
hahahahahaha
bastard! I knew you was itching to get me for beating you to the punch in that reply up there! lol
I only need 2 words for my sig now....."FUCK BOSTON"
...
;)
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 16, 2010 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions
If Bynum can contribute between 15 and 20 points it will be a great help to win the team,As we noticed he’s really hurt offensively and defensively.
Its very hard for us to win without a healthy Bynum,Games 4 & 5 proves that Kobe himself is not enough to beat this Celtics team.
How can we win if theres no defense on the center ? Garnetts game 4 & 5 is much better than Gasol,Artest cannot stop Pierce.
It will takes a collective team effort to win game 6.
Lets face reality here.
We're not getting 15 out of Drew.
Healthy, yes. But if he were healthy the series was over in 5.
Drew can give us a lift, but the other guys have to win it.
Some Inspiration
“I’m too old, can’t do it on my own anymore, but I look around and see young faces, who got my back. In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity and great moments come form great opportunities, so here it is for the taking.”
Phil tell this to your squad !!!
This post
You guys here @ SSR doing an awesome job as always. i rec this on FB.
JUST TWO MORE HOME GAMES!!!!!!!!! AND ITS FOR LAKERS FOR THE TAKING!!!!!!!
Thanks!
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by DexterFishmore on Jun 15, 2010 3:23 AM PDT up reply actions
beat me to it >.>
"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure."
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 15, 2010 3:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Okay, now I feel much better
That’s a great Kobe highlight vid. I think I’ve seen it before, but the images are wonderfully punctuated by the music.
I was already certain we’d win game 6, but I that post improved my mood.
I appreciate it.
And I’ll appreciate it even more when we win game 6.
Destiny and KG returns
as predicted since mid-season. The L’s have seen their scoring decrease for each game. While I do not expect them to only score in the 70’s tonight (though I wouldn’t be surprised) they’ll be lucky to hit 90 and that won’t be enough.
The problem with this post and hopeful analysis is that they’re dependant on the L’s showing the heart and pride of true warriors, i.e. KG. Only Kobe burns deep inside, everyone else on the L’s is cold and barren inside while they await the coming onslaught. The C’s defense will do that to a team, you know.
Forgot to include Bynum with Kobe
after going 30+ minutes on that knee.
Ugh...
Do you actually believe that stuff?
I mean… really? “True warriors”… “burns deep inside”… “cold and barren inside”… “Destiny”?
Mills and Boon are looking for you!
The half-crazed ramblings of a Lakers fanatic living in Japan...
KG? True warrior?
Ask Minnesota about that.
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 15, 2010 6:51 AM PDT up reply actions
And did you just say 'destiny'?
Lmao.
You’re lucky that:
1. Personal insults are not tolerated on SSR
2. As a mod, I have to live by the rules to the letter
Because I REALLY have a low level of tolerance for that crap.
"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure."
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 15, 2010 6:53 AM PDT up reply actions
ha ha ha...
having your picture at the bottom of the page isn’t all it’s cracked up to be sometimes, is it? Totally reigns you in and you have to hold your tongue, er, keyboard, quite a bit, eh?
This piece was really great, btw. I have said before that if a piece is lacking in brevity it had better be really good, and well, this totally was. Not sure how much time it took, maybe you are just a natural and can sit down and crank something like this out in say, 10 minutes or so, but either way, it was very enjoyable to read, well-expressed and totally held my attention. Kudos.
Oh, and Go Lakers! I’m totally nervous for tonight, and I’m never nervous. I’m also incredibly superstitious so I’m trying to figure out if that is a good or bad sign, being nervous? Hmmm….
About two and a half hours...
But that included getting all the embed codes for the vids right, and I was writing slower than usual.
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by Saurav A. Das on Jun 16, 2010 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions
so...many...cheesy...lines!!
irrational! can’t compute!!
At Home, the Lakers are Good as Gold
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/lakers-253423-someone-make.html
"We’re in a good situation," Pau Gasol said. "As tough as it is losing these last two games, we’re going to fight for a championship at home. We’re in a position that I think we would all be happy to be in at the beginning of the season."
If the Lakers had won 2 at home, lost 3 away, they’d be in the same position they are right now. Sure, the Celtics took game 2, but that doesn’t matter now, it’s done and gone. You are where you are, and you win the next game. I’m just glad it’s at Staples Center.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
Lakers must win tonight for themselves and for us fans.
"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess." -Kobe
don't let us down
i’m tired of losing to the damn celtics.
by lakerlover2by4 on Jun 15, 2010 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Ive only seen 4 Lakers vs Celtic series
So i wouldn’t mind having that 3-2 edge!
I only need 2 words for my sig now....."FUCK BOSTON"
Till the roof comes off, till the lights go out
Till my legs give out, can’t shut my mouth
Till the smoke clears out and my high wear out
I’m a rip this shit till my bone collapse
Till the roof comes off, till the lights go out
Till my legs give out, can’t shut my mouth
Till the smoke clears out and my high wear out
I’m a rip this shit till my bone collapse
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