The ineffectiveness of Andrew Bynum puts the Lakers in a tight spot vs. Suns
by C.A. Clark on May 24, 2010 9:02 AM PDT
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8 minutes. 2 points, 2 rebounds, 4 fouls.
That was Andrew Bynum's line from last night's game vs. the Phoenix Suns. 4 fouls in 8 minutes ... Travis Knight thinks that's awful. I'm not trying to throw Drew under the bus here, I don't think any of us believe his performance was indicative of anything besides the fact that he's well below 100%. However, with Drew's injury making it so he struggles to keep up with even Robin Lopez, the Lakers are put in an unenviable position. Phil Jackson mentioned that AB might not even play in Game 4, and that's bad news for all of us.
The Lakers do not have what you would call a deep roster, and nowhere is the roster thinner than at the top. It seems odd to consider the Lakers as thin in the post, since they have, without question, the best combination of bigs in the league. But, in this case, quality != depth (read "!" as not, for those of you who don't get down with the computer science). LO, Pau, and Drew (when healthy) are all capable of putting up All-Star numbers on any given night, but the Lakers are in trouble anytime two of them are off the court. The drop off in talent between the 3rd big and the 4th is equivalent to the Grand Canyon.
There are two ways for this "big" problem to ruin the Lakers chances. First of all, Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom can't play the entire game. Gasol has great stamina, but he played 45 minutes in last night's contest, but that can't keep up against the Phoenix Suns' run-and-gun attack. Phil Jackson really played with fire last night, sensing that a Game 3 victory would mean a short series, and playing both Pau Gasol and Kobe Bryant the entire 2nd half. His gambit didn't work, and there may be negative side effects, both because the Suns are a team that will test your stamina, and because the games in this series will now come hot and heavy until we have a resolution. That said, since the Suns lack enough inside presence to really punish the Lakers, PJ can get away with playing Ron Artest as a power forward and Kobe Bryant at the small forward to give Pau and or Lamar a breather without having to play someone who is worth every cent of the minimum contract he's got.
No, the real danger in removing Andrew Bynum from the equation up front is that the Lakers will lack the capability to deal with an attack from a pack of wild zebras (they travel in 3s). In game 3, Amar'e Stouemire was oh-so-aggressive, and he was oh-so-rewarded for that aggression. He was one more foul call from shooting as many free throws as the entire Laker squad, with 18 trips to the charity stripe (the Lakers shot 20 as a team). If AB is going to be limited to the nth degree, or even absent entirely from the proceedings, and either Pau or LO pick up quick fouls, the Lakers will be forced to give significant time to either Josh Powell or DJ Mbenga. As much as I love those guys (OK, just DJ), they would both be considered a liability of Channing Frye proportions on the court.
It's especially important to limit minutes to DJ and Powell because the Suns might just think they have something with the zone defense that limited the Lakers enough for Phoenix to pull away. The Lakers bombed away without success in Game 3, and Phil Jackson is sure to have the team better prepared to deal with the zone in Game 4. However, beating a zone is predicated on good ball movement and smart decisions, neither of which fits into JP and DJ's wheelhouse. The prospect of watching those guys launch 20 footers is making me queasy.
Some other quick game notes:
- Robin Lopez last night was the equivalent of the Lakers outside shooting for the first two games. Nice job, but I'm going to have to see it again to believe he's a major threat. He showed a lot more than you'd expect offensively, and I'm pretty sure he nailed a 15 foot jump shot that slipped out of his hand as he went up. Just one of those nights. And that "accidental" elbow was hilarious.
- I'm worried that the Suns won a game in which they shot poorly from 3, but not that worried, because the Lakers also shot quite poorly from 3. Both of those things qualify as an anomaly right now.
- Late in the 1st half, I was struck by the fact that it's quite rare for Lamar Odom to be such a detriment to the Lakers. There are plenty of games where LO disappears, but the decisions he was making and the fouls he was taking were actually harmful to the Lakers' cause. He came back with a decent stretch in the 2nd half, but that was a bad game for LO, as compared to a game in which he disappears.
- One more thing: more so even than Ron Artest, LO needs to stop chucking 3s. Artest may have the worse percentage over the entire playoffs, but its his job in the triangle to take open 3s, and he's also trending upward. LO has been consistently poor from downtown, and every bomb he attempts is a bad idea, only because our offensive rebounding is a big strength and he can't board his own 3 pt attempts.
- Slowly but surely, we've seen an uptick in bad decisions by Shannon Brown. Through the first two rounds, his relatively smart play was a pleasant surprise. In this series, he's made a couple of bone headed decisions, none worse than the foul on Leandro Barbosa 60 feet from the basket with 1.5 seconds left on the clock going into halftime. Of course it was a weak call, but why even give them the opportunity to call it?
- Those dreams of a short series certainly aren't dead, but as the adage says, a series doesn't start until somebody wins on the road. This series is in position to go seven games as much as it is in position to go 5.
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"This series is in position to go seven games as much as it is in position to go 5."
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Captain Obvious
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
Also, sweet Travis Knight reference
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
Another reason why i dont see us beating Boston
if Drew isnt playing (or he’s playing at 50% or whatever) its basically the exact same teams from 08, with a huge improved Rondo and Ron for us and the improvement of Rondo is a much bigger advantage for them than having Ron is for us. Also, if Rasheed is playing like he is, we’re in even more trouble. And dont say that Kobe will shut down Rondo; he’s not gonna be guarding him the whole time and even when he does, who’s gonna guard a red-hot Ray Allen?? Fish??? God help us. I think we just gotta face it, the Celtics matchup up very well with us and while we may matchup well with them in some aspects, we cant defend Rondo and Allen at the same time.
Faith.... a fan's biggest downfall
by desecrator09 on May 24, 2010 9:30 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Don't think improved Rondo is better than improved
defense. Ron can hold Pierce better than most as he’s the same build as him and able to keep up with him and any sort of play he wants to pursue. We can also put Kobe on Rondo and if Allen catches fire we can live with that as long as we shut down the other parts of the Big 4. The only thing that continues to worry me is Garnett vs. Gasol. Whoever wins that matchup wins the series. Everywhere else we can cover them. Not guarding Allen is nothing like not guarding Rondo. Allen is pretty much score only. Rondo can actually slice our defense with his quickness and distributes better. Allen’s much slower and less crafty than Rondo. I’m not worried about him. You shouldn’t be either. Besides we need to focus on our current opponent. Stop with the Celtics talk until Phx is done.
I actually agree.
I’ve heard Lakers fans talking about how Bynum will destroy Perkins and Wallace or KG. Um, Dwight freakin’ Howard is getting shut down by single coverage from Perk. At this stage of the season, Bynum has about as much offensive impact as Dwight, and much, much less defensive impact. So if Bynum is playing hurt and in foul trouble, that leaves… Pau and Kobe? Artest and Lamar are pretty unreliable offensively, meaning Boston would have to focus on shutting down Kobe and Pau. Boston has Ray Allen (who plays Kobe very well), Paul Pierce (bigger and longer than Ray), and Tony Allen (who gave LeBron freakin’ James fits) to guard Kobe. And Kobe has never really figured out that Boston team, consistently shooting very low percentages against them. So if Boston can limit Kobe to 25 ppg on 38-40% shooting (they did in 08), then they have to focus on Pau. They have three great defenders to throw at Kobe, and three great defenders to throw at Pau. Perkins can push Pau 15 ft away from the basket, KG is quick enough to stay in front of him (he’s looking healthier), and Rasheed has always been an outstanding post defender. Throw in the fact that Perkins > injured Bynum and Rondo >> Fisher… it’ll be tough. Glen Davis can roughly negate Lamar’s impact off the bench, and Boston is a superb road team, so HCA may not play much of a factor. Okay, I’m done.
ummm
Dwight Howard is a terrible offensive player
by heinzketchup on May 24, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Is Bynum much better at this point?
I’m just saying Bynum (if he keeps playing like this) will be effectively neutralized.
Bynum is injured while Howard is spry. Bynum is a better offensive player than Howard.
Its not particularly close either. As for Perkins vs Bynum, I think its a wash since Perkins isn’t that good offensively. At all, really. Bynum is hobbled by the knee so he’s limited offensively and defensively. However, he won’t have to deal with a free flowing offense like the Suns. Boston is more of a halfcourt team that’ll fastbreak if the opportunity presents itself. Bynum might be able to stay on the floor a bit longer.
I read this up on Celtics blog and the guy sounds like a jackass but I kinda agree wit him:
Absolutely In having just watched the Suns see success against at home against LA, I’m convinced of two things.
First, the Lakers are NOT a good road team…at all.
Second, when the Lakers are met with ANY defense at all…especially that of the hard-nosed, physical type…they wilt. They start missing shots. I noticed this when Robin Lopez! was put in the game. I mean, he barely plays defense (according to Celtic standards), but he managed to throw the Lakers bigs off. In addition, when Amare decided to drive inside often, the Lakers bigs got into BIG foul trouble.
…and this was with KOBE scoring nearly 40 pts. too!
I am extremely confident that the Celtics will thoroughly shock the Lakers with their physicality. Orlando and Cleveland were rolling over legitimate playoff competition before they hit Boston…and they just ran into a figurative buzzsaw.
Everyone’s talking about the Lakers bigs. Wait until KG and Perk arrive. Remember…weren’t you impressed with Perk’s mobility in Game 3 against Orlando? Well…not so coincidentally, it was accompanied by 5-6 days of rest. Imagine what another week of rest will do for Perk…KG…Paul…you name it.
The Lakers and their fans are appraising a potential finals rematch based on 2008 and 2009 matchups. Little do they know that this Celtics team is run in a completely different manner than before. It won’t matter that Artest is guarding Pierce, or Gasol on KG. If they are expecting the Big 3 to initiate the Celtic offense, and proceeding to plan accordingly for that on defense, then they will be falling into a terrible trap. Rondo runs the show, and for that reason, the Big 3 get their looks without even having to sweat it out.
…and this is not even mentioning the defensive-end. Let me put it this way…I’ll just say it. This team defense is looking better than it did in 2008. I know, it’s almost heresay…but it seems as true as ever. On the other hand, the Lakers THINK they’ve been playing tough…just as the Magic thought they had been doing.
Faith.... a fan's biggest downfall
OK
I think we’ll find out soon enough if the Lakers and Celtics meet in the Finals. I’m just happy the Celtics won’t have home court advantage no matter what. It may not have matter to them in earlier rounds, but it’s going to be a big deal in the Finals.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
What constitutes a good road record? 70% winning per, 65%, don't see that as factual
Lakers won 29 road games last year, unbelievable, they won 65 games.
This year they won 23, which is almost 60% of their road games, not bad. They won 57 total games. So, by that logic, their home record stayed about the same, give or take a game.
Winning 29 games on the road in a year, will be an…abberation.
Winning 23 games on the road isn’t that good, it isn’t bad, it’s okay. The Lakers are an okay road team.
In the playoffs last year, the Lakers were 5 wins, 6 losses on road. This year 3-3.
First, the Lakers are NOT a good road team…at all.
by rickfox on May 24, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
I like to back statement[s] with facts, just what i've been taught
just a bit long-winded….LOL!!!!!!
by rickfox on May 24, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
wow. you say you kind of agree with him?
i can smell pure cockiness from a mile away and no facts/stats.
by heinzketchup on May 24, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Nah I wasn't, I was pointing out that the Lakers are OK on road
Cockiness? what’cha mean bro, don’t understand?
by rickfox on May 24, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I take umbrage with that cockiness statement? Didn't agree bout Lakers road
I’m just SPITTING THE KNOWN
by rickfox on May 24, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
He is a Celtic fan so this is no surprise.
As far as Orlando running into a buzzsaw. Celtics are good, but he is overrating the Magic. We beat them in 5 games in the Finals so….
Not a good road team. If it is the Lakers and Celtics in the Finals, all we have to do is win the home games. I don’t think he knows we have homecourt advantage.
Floyd Little: HOF Class of 2010.
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Some nice thoughts to remember from last night
- Shannon Brown’s put back dunk off Bynum’s missed free throw.
- The give and go between Pau and Kobe that resulted in a huge dunk by Pau with Lopez guarding him.
- Kobe being absolutely on fire on offense.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
So true, you gotta look at the bright side...
…of the sun. Shit.
"Prejudice not founded on reason cannot be removed by argument." - Samuel Johnson
Why do we always worry so much?
Either way we can’t stop the players from making bone-headed decisions or playing bad. We KNOW when we play TEAM D-fence we are great, and when we pass the ball using our triangle offence and not get into “their” game we win. We play US and not their style we win. Relax ppl……and dont worry bout Boston just yet since they have played great for like 2 series.
Plus we aint even playing them yet!!
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I agree Sarge, some folks on this blog find hard it hard to control emotions from wins or losses
by rickfox on May 24, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL they all get their panties in a twist after one loss. And we played like shit! its not like we are gonna do the 3 more friggen times!
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by Sarge Clemins on May 24, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Over the years I have been watching the Lakers they always play poorly on Sunday afternoons and nights.
I have been a fan since 1965 and since the 80s Sundays are usually a toss-up for the lakes. Know Bynum limping around court doesn’t look good, but believe me Ron will take Pierce out but it all comes down to Odum, maybe Deiter will help out some in the games to come. But who knows what Phil will do, probably not even Jeanie!
Go Lakers Don’t Be Fakers and damn it Andrew suck it up you Big?
Well basically John Wooden was and is a FRAUD, by the way where is Sammy Gilbert Ben needs some ballers.
by so.cal.native1952 on May 25, 2010 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Well said, and concurs with Lamar's "message" to the fans
“The greatest players in the world sometimes play bad in any sport,” Odom says. " Joe Montana had one before. Gretzky. It happens. I’m just Lamar."
When I ask him whether he understands what it’s like for a fan to watch him play, never knowing what they might get, he says, "Yeah, a fan. But I’m the player. You should listen to the player.
“Listen to the guy who’s been playing since he was 10 years old. Take his word for it. Everything will be fine. I promise you.”
http://articles.latimes.com/2010/may/23/sports/la-sp-simers-20100524
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by Gil Meriken on May 24, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
ever notice how Lamar
disappears when he starts getting too much GOOD press? Don’t think the Candyman likes the spotlight…he kinda melts a bit.
Hey nice find Gil! there you go peeps!
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by Sarge Clemins on May 24, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Not resting kobe in the 2nd half...
what do guys think about PJ leaving kobe out there the entire 2nd half?
when i saw that he was still in at the start of the 4th (meaning he wasn’t going to be coming out) i commented/predicted that by the last 3 minutes his jumper would come up short. tired legs tend to do that to the jump shot. no stats to back this up but i seem to remember kobe cooling off down the stretch.
"I did not write this" by Not me
it was a gamble, the difference between 2-1 and 3-0 is pure monumental
especially when you’ve completely eliminated HCA
As far the lassitude you thought Kobe might have, he didn’t. He had another 30 point plus game, almost a trible double. Not tired, my friend. Denver thought Kobe’s jumper would die off as well, we all know how that turned out.
Phoenix was aggressive, Lakers didn’t react well to the zone, bottomline.
by rickfox on May 24, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
no doubt...he had another great game
i don’t expect he’ll play any different in the post season…but even the mamba is human
(or is he???) and i remember seeing some front iron clankers in the waining minutes of the game, although i don’t know about overall 4th Q average…I’m just saying it was a gutsy gamble by PJ.
"I did not write this" by Not me
with some of his injuries over the years, he's should be likened to the T-1000.
Things this athlete can do is crazy…
by rickfox on May 24, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
you guys suckered us into brick-ville
,,,with that 2-3 zone. Good move by Gentry. Now let’s see what Phil’s gonna do about it.
haha@brick-ville! good one Rick
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by Sarge Clemins on May 24, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
He got plenty of rest during the 2nd quarter
More than he usually does
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gil Meriken on May 24, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
going' for the haymaker.
swing…and a miss. PHX showed more heart in one game than Orlando has in an entire series.
orland has been so god damn disapointing
jesus christ some body on that team needs to grow a pair
"I did not write this" by Not me
it was still a smart gamble
to keep the starters/ Kobe in the 4th. If we went up 3-0, we pretty much have a virtual lock on the series. Besides, they had 5 days of rest. Things just didnt work in the 4th against the zone.
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
he started off 9-for-11 i believe...
…then finished 13-24. Still a good night, but it does mean that he finished 4-13. He did get to the line down the stretch though as well.
Did the Lakers leave their defense in Utah?
I don’t understand why are we trying to play the suns game instead of ours
You can't pick that ball up and run with it
-Phil Jackson
Our first 2 games at home is just to prove the point on how powerful our offense is.
I won’t be surprised if we see a low scoring game on tuesday.
"Love me or hate me; it's one or the other. Always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fade-away, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Bryant
3's and turns
…32 3 balls: that will kill us every time. I know it’s what is being offered, especially with that Div III 2-3 zone that sent us into brain-lock, but that’s one of the perks of a zone: it tempts you into the long 3. Not only does that highlight our inconsistent outside shooting, it get us away from the paint, and the free throw line. (That said, an over 2-to-1 discrepancy in FTA’s? c’mon, zeebs, I thought Dave told you guys you were supposed to be in OUR pocket) There are other places to attack a 2-3; from the hi post/FT line extended, and with diagonal skip passes (with good angles, and some ZIP, por favor) to open a passing lane to the block on the weak side. Just standing out there in the ozone and launching chimney fodder will not beat a zone. Unless you can really, really shoot it.
...add in some boneheaded
unforced errors from Brown and Farmar, and LO hiding from that white hot spotlight (again) and voila: Laker L. That said, if it were not for the rash of TO’s to start the fourth quarter, and Robin Lopez having the game of his life, we could have taken this game. Bench Bynum. He’s giving us nothing (Hasn’t, really, for the entire playoffs, one 13 point effort excluded), and his inability to close out on rotation and challenge a drive at the rim is killing us.
Anybody watch the Magic-Bird doc that aired last night? Brilliant stuff
I can honestly say, Bird was gave the greatest worst interviews, ever, I never saw a guy fuck with the media like Bird. Inexplicably brilliant.
by rickfox on May 24, 2010 10:58 AM PDT reply actions
It was sad when they talked about Bird's dad taking his own life
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gil Meriken on May 24, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
yea, not something you want to speak about, not to mention your best friend
Magic ‘I think if you asked people, they’d say this was going to go to 7 games.’
Bird ‘I thought we were going to sweep ’em, we’ll have to do it in 7 games.’
Classic Magic-Bird
by rickfox on May 24, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Watching that I realized how much closer Kobe was to Bird in mentality and demeanor
Than to Magic
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by Gil Meriken on May 24, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Imagine your brother saying he loves watching your enemy play more than you.
That just added a pile of gasoline on Larry’s ego.
by rickfox on May 24, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
lol....Bird was awesome!
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on May 24, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
yes yes Gil.....you are correct!
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on May 24, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Bird was the best shot maker of his era like Kobe, he can really create his shots. He was also very clutch.
It’s kinda freaky how Bird’s rival is similar to Kobe’s rival right now. They’re both freak of natures who loves those 3ple doubles.
Except Bird’s rival has “it” and is a proven winner.
Don’t ya think it’d be fun if LBJ somehow joins the Celts before Kobe retires and they meet in the finals. Lakers would win of course, and #24 gets his 7th ring.
"Love me or hate me; it's one or the other. Always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fade-away, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Bryant
or 8th...
leave me alone…. it’s my fantasy dammit ;[
"Love me or hate me; it's one or the other. Always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fade-away, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Bryant
LOL @ Alot of you Laker Fans...
We Lose 1 game and itz 2012 the World’s going to end!! Nostradamus predicted it! Amare played out of his mind we shot shit for 32 outside the arc and lost by 9 points…On the road no less…It happens..This is a 7 game series or maybe 5 depending on who you talk to and I for 1 am glad the Lakers lost a game….Now they remember what it feels like to lose and they arent invincible…Not a bad thing if you ask me…I take it people have forgotten the “old” Lakers would have got drilled by 20 in that same game a month ago…Dont worry,stop panicking and look up…The sky is still there. It didnt go anywhere.
All you Laker Fans worrying about Boston…Chill wit the early pessimism please. Rondo is the Only guy on that team we should be worried about and itz not like the Lakers havent faced every type of PG you can possibly see during these playoffs..The Title is coming back to LA whether you believe in the team or not..
You are a witness to the Black Mamba 2010 revenge tour..Seattle, check, Utah,check, Phoenix and Boston-Fuck your team and their title chances
Yeah well I heard the Lakers were going to get upset and not even make it to the West Finals!
Conclusion: Some people are wrong a lot.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gil Meriken on May 24, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
He was in a hot tub time machine, thought it was 2006.
"Prejudice not founded on reason cannot be removed by argument." - Samuel Johnson
in a hot tub with 3 refs?
thats the only way the heat won that championship..
:)
I don’t think Wade thought he was helped out, either.
He was.
a lot of people feel the same way in Sacramento about foul shots
Sac fans and Mavs fans should have group therapy about nba officiating.
by rickfox on May 24, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
All those teams' fans rooted for the Lakers?
They must be onto something.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gil Meriken on May 24, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Well theres a big difference in those teams and the Lakers
The Lakers are the Defending Champs and each of those teams are to put it bluntly LOSERS
You are a witness to the Black Mamba 2010 revenge tour..Seattle, check, Utah,check, Phoenix and Boston-Fuck your team and their title chances
dont waste your time
A lot of these are fans with low self esteem. I think they expect to win every series in four games by atleast ten points each. They probably don’t play sports and aren’t familiar with the ups and downs of the game, and so will look at every lost game as the curtain falling and everything ending.
I’ll read the mods take and most of the regular posters take, but I also know to recognize those who usually show up to whine and moan about how bad the Lakers are whenever one loss happens. It’s kind of funny.
hahaha yeah i know......
hey guess what?? we LOST a game!!! lol
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on May 24, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
They said the title was coming back to LA?
Cool!
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gil Meriken on May 24, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah Gil alot of ppl did!
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on May 24, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
im pretty sure you meant to say
The Title is coming back to LA
the Title is staying in LA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by kb06 on May 24, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
New to posting here but I've been reading this blog for a while (5 or 6 seasons) now
I enjoy reading all these articles/comments especially Dex, Suarav and C.A’s article’s You guys rock keep rocking.
Now let me say something about last night’s game: ////////
I think the Lakers had this game on their hands until like three minutes left, but they couldn’t close it out and it happens. Same thing happened when they played Thunder in exact same game 3. I just think if they went inside instead of shooting 3’s they could have had a very good chance of steealing it this one away or set the game for one Kobe final shot. Anyway the game is lost we have to look forward to the next game and play it like its game seven and not worry too much aboout the next series, that’s just too much to think right now. We will do so when we get there.
Thanks, and welcome!
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by DexterFishmore on May 24, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Welcome
but hasn’t this blog only been around for a couple of seasons? maybe you’re confusing it with another one.
If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose.
welcome Dere
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by Sarge Clemins on May 24, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Steve Nash is one tough Mofo, he put his broken nose back into place, Damn!!!
by rickfox on May 24, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
lol i dont think so!
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by Sarge Clemins on May 24, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
so is bynum not playing next game?
"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."
SS&R makes yahoo look like the dark ages
The Bynum situation to me is very difficult but i think we need to just ride this out and any production/positives he brings we should be grateful for.
The worst thing we could do is put DJ on the floor in a real basketball game,that would be horrible. Josh Powell can at least be subliminally effective.
Call me crazy but put Luke out there with Gasol,Shannon,Farmar and Odom. Lukes pure basketball skills and monster strength will help the 2nd unit run the offense better IMO.
One thing i have noticed is if Gasol and Kobe are on the bench at the same time things tend to fall apart very quickly. Im not doubting Phil Jackson but the team should find a way to rest one superstar at a time.
C.A Clark made a really good point about the depth of the team,the Lakers really have to address that in the offseason one player will not be enough even if it was Felton. The 99-00 team had so many great players i wish our depth of talent would return to a point like that.
The suns are who we thought they where and we let them off the hook
by ReasonableDoubtForSale on May 24, 2010 1:46 PM PDT reply actions
the comments section is
just nothing but unintelligent trolls who cant type anything except “FAKERS SSSSUCK.” I used to respond to idiots like that, but in the end, its just a waste of my time.
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
Guilty! I got sucked to many a troll battle, but SS&R has refined me a bit.
SS&R is like finishing school for bloggers.
So true. My favorite part about SSR is that we can curse
That alone makes everything else even better.
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
"The fact that the Lakers have played to such a high level even through the injuries is a testament to their skill, abilities, and resiliency." - 99bc99
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 24, 2010 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
hell yeah bro!! lol
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on May 24, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
fuck yeah
"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure."
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by Saurav A. Das on May 25, 2010 6:02 AM PDT up reply actions
oooooh you trumped me Saurav!
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on May 25, 2010 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions
of course rick fox came threw in the clutch what did you think was going to happen
good find! that makes me feel alot better
by ReasonableDoubtForSale on May 24, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Hats off to Big Shot Rob, my man. Wednesday will be 8 year anniversary. Why wait
by rickfox on May 24, 2010 1:50 PM PDT reply actions
he better read a paper or something
i remember screaming so loud when that happened i was with at least 12 laker fans and we where all going crazy. the turning point was when hedo did his little dance after that it was all lakers
by ReasonableDoubtForSale on May 24, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
gotta love shaq after game, 'Thank God for Robert Horry, thank god his mother met his father.'
by rickfox on May 24, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
haha
thats great. Shaq should come back….
by ReasonableDoubtForSale on May 24, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Besides, our King doesn't need Shaq's help to get a ring.
"Prejudice not founded on reason cannot be removed by argument." - Samuel Johnson
chickens come home to roost, Magic miss Turkoglu
Conversely, Orlando isn’t as good as it was last season and the reason ought to be fairly obvious. The Magic did not re-sign Hedo Turkoglu, its primary playmaker even though he is listed as a 6-foot-9 forward. Turkoglu was the most important player on the team because he could not only shoot from anywhere but get into the lane, draw double-teams and find teammates, notably Lewis — who since he rarely puts the ball on the floor more than a time or two has become completely dependent on a playmaker. Making Turkoglu even more valuable is Howard’s relatively limited offensive repertoire. He’s only effective within arm’s reach of the basket, and it was Turkoglu’s ability to lure defensive help, often from the man guarding Howard, that left Howard free for all those easy dunks.
by rickfox on May 24, 2010 2:32 PM PDT reply actions
Ariza got in Hedo's head so bad in the finals lol
by ReasonableDoubtForSale on May 24, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Howard needs to call Mchale or go to the greatest post player Hakeem Olajuwon, learn
some new moves, it’s imperative if Orlando wants to be a champion.
Stop with the movies, comedy routines,
Hey D12, your becoming one dimensional, why can everyone else see except you?
by rickfox on May 24, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Err... what?
I think you’re off-base on that one. Ariza pretty much owned him in the Finals.
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by DexterFishmore on May 24, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
He averaged 18 points a game, made life very difficult for Ariza, Killed is a strong word
He made it difficult for Ariza
I’m channelling my inner John Hollinger
A healthy Jameer Nelson, would have been more demonstrative of that point
by rickfox on May 24, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Dex, you're great man, we can agree to disagree
by rickfox on May 24, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Lakers D as a whole owned Howard in the Finals
Great team D, neutralized the three point line [except game 3], limiting the effectiveness.
by rickfox on May 24, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Indeed
I was thinking mostly of how Ariza shut down Hedo in Game Five. Hadn’t really remembered that Hedo put up good numbers in Games Three and Four.
Twitter feed: @dexterfishmore
by DexterFishmore on May 24, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
this is going to open
the door for lots of Laker fans to criticize Bynum and then somewhere, someone will say swap Bynum for Bosh…
Kobe: "If you’re afraid to fail, then you’re probably going to fail," he says, laughing. "You know what I mean? Fuck it."
Bosh is a fantastic fit for the triangle
Not sure where any evidence to the contrary can be found for that.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
im leaning to agree Ben
I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.
by Sarge Clemins on May 25, 2010 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions
OC register has May 24 interviews with the players
http://lakers.freedomblogging.com/2010/05/24/kobe-bryants-may-24-interview-2/36439/
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
Insightful article, thx, A game 4 question:
More concern over Bynum, or Pao/KB high min’s in G3 (45 and 43, resp, i think)? Thx – a Brightsider
road team
lakers are an ok road team, but dont forget Boston isnt the best home team either!
by the fantasy king on May 24, 2010 8:59 PM PDT reply actions
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