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Same Old Suns: Lakers Dominate, 128 to 107

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The Phoenix Suns tonight suffered what Wall Street types refer to as a "market correction." A few blowouts over an injury-depleted Trail Blazers team in the first round, followed by a second-round sweep of a Spurs squad older than the city of San Antonio itself, engendered irrational exuberance among Suns fans, not to mention a series of shaky hypotheses about how Phoenix would overwhelm the Lakers in the Western Conference Finals. The Suns play defense now! A rested Steve Nash would abuse Derek Fisher! Grant Hill is the ideal defender to slow down Kobe Bryant!

These cute little theories were all court-tested tonight, and the results have sent Phoenix stock crashing. The Suns didn't play any more D than they did when they visited Staples Center in the regular season. Perhaps even less, if that's possible, as the Lakers roared to a 128 to 107 Game One victory, ringing up a dazzling 1.39 points per possession. Nash looked way less formidable than the last two point guards the Lakers faced in these playoffs. And Hill didn't even come close to bothering Kobe, who blew up like that Icelandic volcano no one can pronounce. His 40 points (on 28 shooting possessions, with only two turnovers) turned the Suns' defense to ash.

Star-divide

Not that Phoenix had much success defending Lakers not named Kobe Bryant. After an iffy start in which the Lakers went scoreless on their first four possessions, the offense came to life and began carving up the Suns from every angle and nearly every position on the floor. When the Suns played at Staples last November and December, the Lakers had zero trouble racking up big point totals, but those games were written off this week as having been too long ago to be relevant, and because on both nights Phoenix was on the tail end of a back-to-back. Turns out, not much has changed since then, and rest did the Suns little good. They're just a bad defensive team, and the Lakers are the ideal team to exploit their weaknesses.

Kobe was dazzling tonight. The thoughtfulness of his approach - mixing up drives and outside shots, powering into the lane, finding open teammates - was superb. Forget about the knee-draining. His legs looked strong. The lift on his jumper was excellent. Hill was so at a loss for solutions that he resorted to fouling and eventually got teed up out of Mamba Panic. In the third quarter alone, Kobe scored 21 to catalyze a huge Laker run that put the game out of reach. Somewhere in Utah, Wesley Matthews is nodding ruefully.

Lamar Odom was sensational as well, turning in one of those "Hey, that's why we pay Lamar Odom!" games that occur at random every couple of weeks. In the first half, he got the attack rolling with powerful drives to the rim and a soft touch from the perimeter. Chalk up 19 points on 15 shots for LO, with only a single turnover. On the boards, too, he was unstoppable, tearing down 19, including seven offensive. That's the Lamar we remember from the championship drive last year.

Don't think the fun stopped there. Pau Gasol had little difficulty getting to the basket on a series of spins and dump-offs. He scored 21 on 13 shots. Jordan Farmar and Shannon Brown, after looking atrocious when they first entered the game, found their groove and offered a strong riposte to those who claim the Phoenix bench will embarrass their L.A. counterparts in this series. They combined for 19 points on 13 shots, extending the lead built by the Laker starters. Even Josh Powell, D.J. Mbenga and Luke Walton got a taste of the scoring action. It was that kind of party.

The Laker defense wasn't especially good, but it would've had to be historically god-awful to make this a competitive game. The key was getting out on shooters, which was rewarded by a 5-for-23 mark from beyond the arc for the Suns. The Lakers were also sound on the defensive glass, holding the Suns to a 26% offensive rebounding rate. In the crucial third quarter, Phoenix pulled in exactly zero offensive boards.

The Laker pick-and-roll defense, much discussed all week, had good moments and bad. The strategy alternated between hedging and switching. Most of the Lakers' problems came in finding the roll man going to the basket. Amare Stoudemire had 23, and Robin Lopez, looking no worse for wear, had a superefficient 14-point night. But Nash was quiet and did nothing to suggest that he's going to destroy Fish the way Russell Westbrook and Deron Williams did. Lacking the youth and athleticism of those two up-and-comers, Nash appears to be not a terrible matchup for Fish, who can use his strength and veterany wiles to better effect in this series.

Is this only one game? Yes. It is only one game. But really, it couldn't have gone much worse for Phoenix. Very little that they were counting on in the way of competitive advantages made an appearance tonight, and the worst fears about this matchup - too much Laker size, too much Laker talent, too much Kobe Bryant - all came to pass. They have less than 48 hours to find some answers.

Welcome, Suns, to the conference finals. You're not in San Antonio anymore.

 

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TO%

FTA/
FGA

FT%

3FGA/FGA

2PT%

3PT%

EFG

TS%

OReb Rate

DReb Rate

PPP

PHX

92

13

0.41

75

0.28

60

23

53

57

26

68

1.16

LA

92

10

0.25

82

0.19

61

47

63

66

32

74

1.39

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Hey i think "the mamba zone" worked as well tonite!

I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.

by Sarge Clemins on May 17, 2010 10:08 PM PDT reply actions  

lol

I was waiting for your post.. you put that shit up faster than Kobe put up 40 tonight. I see what you meant by someone being “wrong” thought you were refering to Lakers fans.

"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG

"The fact that the Lakers have played to such a high level even through the injuries is a testament to their skill, abilities, and resiliency." - 99bc99

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 17, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

i had it on my mind since the 3rd quarter

got home wrote it and eagerly awaited the post game thread

A lot of suns fans have been pretty vicious. It feels good to get a big win

"Attitude reflect leadership, captain" - Big Jules

There is hate and there is "get the fuck out of my way, I've got a parade to get to" - Cool Dudes on May 12, 2010 10:11 PM PDT

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by KBZ on May 17, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Suns fans have always been aggressive in their comments about Kobe and the Lakers.

they been that way since 2007/2008. That is why it feels good as you said to get this win.

"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG

"The fact that the Lakers have played to such a high level even through the injuries is a testament to their skill, abilities, and resiliency." - 99bc99

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 17, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

some joker on the Suns' blog

wrote how he “wanted someone to rip Kobe’s finger off.” well, he got the finger from KB24, all right…

by Whipp on May 18, 2010 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol.

+1

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on May 18, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol niiice

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by Sarge Clemins on May 17, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol and rec'd

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by Czheck on May 17, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah i'll Rec it as well! lol for real not just typin it

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by Sarge Clemins on May 17, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

that "crooked refs, it's all a conspiracy"

point of view is never late.

"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG

"The fact that the Lakers have played to such a high level even through the injuries is a testament to their skill, abilities, and resiliency." - 99bc99

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 17, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

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by Czheck on May 17, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

the rematch

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by Czheck on May 17, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha ha,

There was very similar stuff on the Phoenix blog about the Blazers, and then again about Duncan, Ginobili, and Parker…
Ignore the fanatic trolls, they are no good for anyone.

by Chucko667 on May 17, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

no they are not :)

I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.

by Sarge Clemins on May 17, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying this series is over

but the vitriol spewing from a lot of Suns fans was surprising to say the least

smack talk is good entertainment for everyone, but a lot of your guys weren’t even giving us a chance

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by KBZ on May 17, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

poor Suns fans

There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be committed against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the Limelight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.

by BrittneyM on May 17, 2010 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol @ this comment
followed by a second-round sweep of a Spurs squad older than the city of San Antonio itself

"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG

"The fact that the Lakers have played to such a high level even through the injuries is a testament to their skill, abilities, and resiliency." - 99bc99

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 17, 2010 10:09 PM PDT reply actions  

ive been commenting here for a while now and still dont know how to put someone elses quotes in the purple box.

can you or someone help me me out?

"I work my ass off every day in practice. How many other guys can say the same thing? Not many. I'm fighting against becoming soft. That's the worse thing you can say to a basketball player." - Dennis Rodman

by LakersFoEva on May 18, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

SURE.

Just put the comment in quotes and add the letters bq followed by a period.

like this bq. “blah, blah, blah”

then you get this….

“blah, blah, blah”

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on May 18, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

sorry, I should have clarified..

the bq. goes before the quote.

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on May 18, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

technically you just need the bq. part and not the quotes, but I put it in quotes to make it more obvious I guess.

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on May 18, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lets see........

“technically you just need the bq. part and not the quotes, but I put it in quotes to make it more obvious I guess.”

"I work my ass off every day in practice. How many other guys can say the same thing? Not many. I'm fighting against becoming soft. That's the worse thing you can say to a basketball player." - Dennis Rodman

by LakersFoEva on May 18, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

no, you got it all wrong....

j/k LOL

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on May 18, 2010 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

all you have to do is write something, highlight it and then press the quotes button. don

something

then highlight and press "

something

done

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by KBZ on May 18, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

well,

the easiest way to do it, at least for me, is when you go to post a new comment or reply to a comment, look for the HTML cheaters right below where you normally put your subject line or heading of your post.

There is a “B” so you can bold text, there is an “I” so you can italicize text, there is an “S” so you can strikethrough text if you wish, there are blue quotes so you can put words in quotes (i.e. the purple box), there is a link button so you can include links in your post (that link takes you to something really cute, btw, though I think only the ladies will enjoy it : )), and, of course, there is the tree so you can include pics….

Do you see those HTML cheaters? Well, anyway, in order to put something in a purple box you highlight the text you want to make purple and then….

click on the blue quotes cheater.

Does that make any sense? If it doesn’t I apologize as I’m not super computer savvy and maybe didn’t explain it the best, but I have been around SB Nation for a while and once you get the hang of it, it really is rather fun to use all the tools. : )

by BigSkyCat on May 18, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ill try this way too:
Do you see those HTML cheaters? Well, anyway, in order to put something in a purple box you highlight the text you want to make purple and then….

"I work my ass off every day in practice. How many other guys can say the same thing? Not many. I'm fighting against becoming soft. That's the worse thing you can say to a basketball player." - Dennis Rodman

by LakersFoEva on May 18, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh…very cool. i learned a new trick, too?

by Nostance on May 18, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

highlight the text you want to quote then click the quotes button

and your good to go.

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on May 18, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

nice

The PuertoRican Kid

by Kobe:The Legend on May 18, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

"I don't think Phoenix could play mutch worse"

Very true words there.
For a team where almost all their guys shoot the 3 ball at 40%, they certainly weren’t hitting their shots.
It will be an interesting game 2, hoping that Phoenix can bring the shooting that it’s known for so the Suns can make a game of it this time.

by Chucko667 on May 17, 2010 10:10 PM PDT reply actions  

i hope ur right for ur sake Chucko

I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.

by Sarge Clemins on May 17, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope im right for the sake of an entertaining series.

Even if you’re on the ass-kicking side, 4 blowouts would be pretty damn boring.

by Chucko667 on May 17, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah in reality i hate blowouts....i believe Kobe buzzer beaters to be better for the NBA anyways! lol

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by Sarge Clemins on May 17, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thats the stuff that makes a series historical.

Everyone remembers the close hard fought games, no matter what side you’re on.
This playoffs has been boring by comparison, lots of sweeps, lots of blowouts, not many hard fought games.
It’s bad business for the NBA….

by Chucko667 on May 17, 2010 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah you are correct....aside from Boston/cavs.....lakers/OKC.....most games have sucked

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by Sarge Clemins on May 17, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

boston/miami was good too

wade put on quite a show, even if it wasn’t enough

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by akb24b on May 17, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

So you’ll be rootin’ for the Suns then? in order for it to go to 7 games? :)

by Chucko667 on May 17, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL! i'll be rootin for a good series....like always. But i can wish you guys some home luck...lol

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by Sarge Clemins on May 17, 2010 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

NO! No luck

we gotta finish this thing up quick so Bynum and Kobe can rest and contnue the revenge tour.

Though I’m sure this series won’t be a sweep like the Jazz. look for the Suns bench to light it up at home.

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by KBZ on May 17, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm with you!

Shaft this “gee I want a good series” stuff.

I’m fine with roadkill.

The half-crazed ramblings of a Lakers fanatic living in Japan...

by With Malice on May 17, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

ok ok lemme re-phrase myself....

i want a Great 4 game series! lol

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by Sarge Clemins on May 18, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

end of first

If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose.

by akb24b on May 17, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

quarter

If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose.

by akb24b on May 17, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

do you think that Phoenix shooting had more to do more with the Lakers D

or the Suns not performing well?

"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG

"The fact that the Lakers have played to such a high level even through the injuries is a testament to their skill, abilities, and resiliency." - 99bc99

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 17, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, it wasn't that.

Frye and Dudley both had wide open 3’s that they missed, and to my utter shock, even Nash missed a wide open 3 at the top of the key…. something i haven’t seen him do for a long long time.
They boyz were just off their game tonight. LA’s defense in the paint was fantastic, but their perimiter defense wasn’t responsible for the sub par 3pt shooting, that’s all on phoneix.

by Chucko667 on May 17, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

fair enough.

I think that the Lakers not falling in love with the 3 made it difficult for the Suns to get out in transition. They actually survived a huge start by the Suns.

"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG

"The fact that the Lakers have played to such a high level even through the injuries is a testament to their skill, abilities, and resiliency." - 99bc99

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 17, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, LA knew that they could score at-will in the paint.

So that’s what they did, time and time again.

Mark my words tho, Phoenix will win at least one game shooting the lights from the 3 line. live by the 3, die by the 3.
It won’t win them the series, but it will certainly win them a game or 2.

by Chucko667 on May 17, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, and the Suns still got smashed on the boards.

Alvin Gentry would be ripping the team a new one right now.

by Chucko667 on May 17, 2010 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

hey

in fairness, Pau does that a lot. His physique makes him a lot faster than the usual bigs. We have lots of highlights featuring him in the fast break, either as a trailer or the recipient. Even one where he was the ballhandler

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by altree on May 17, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah but

Amare’s meant to be the “Athletic” one.
It did not reflect well on Amare that Pau got that kind of space.

by Chucko667 on May 17, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

remember this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09qeRO6NkVM

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on May 17, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

sick

"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG

"The fact that the Lakers have played to such a high level even through the injuries is a testament to their skill, abilities, and resiliency." - 99bc99

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 17, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

ariza was awesome

i found out the reason we couldnt get both ariza and artest. WE ARE ONLY 1.5 MILL OR SO UNDER THE HARD CAP

lol

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by Czheck on May 17, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's a hard cap? lol

i call shenanigans

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by KBZ on May 17, 2010 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh yeah

that’s what i’m talking about

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by altree on May 18, 2010 5:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

holy fuck, did your center really do that?????

dumb grizzlies, you never know how much you love something until it is gone, kinda like marion

Phoenix, Arizona where BULLY BALL HAPPENS!!!!!!!!

by Bkj on May 18, 2010 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

to me it felt like the suns couldn't miss in the first 10 min

they were on fire

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by KBZ on May 17, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

both.

In general, the close outs were good, but the Suns did miss some open looks as well.

by Whipp on May 18, 2010 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

both

we didn’t make wide open looks and (I can’t believe i’m about to say this) your guys were just too…long…on the inside, couldn’t do shit, plus fish was a man possessed on defense..jesus you guys handed it to us last night.

by Ceek on May 18, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

word!

The Lakers D was huge.

"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG

"The fact that the Lakers have played to such a high level even through the injuries is a testament to their skill, abilities, and resiliency." - 99bc99

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 17, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

thats turrible a word

I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.

by Sarge Clemins on May 17, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

HA!

I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.

by Sarge Clemins on May 17, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

good article dex
Is this only one game? Yes. It is only one game. But really, it couldn’t have gone much worse for Phoenix. Very little that they were counting on in the way of competitive advantages made an appearance tonight, and the worst fears about this matchup – too much Laker size, too much Laker talent, too much Kobe Bryant – all came to pass. They have less than 48 hours to find some answers.

Welcome, Suns, to the conference finals. You’re not in San Antonio anymore.

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by Czheck on May 17, 2010 10:12 PM PDT reply actions  

damn str8! they are NOT in SA anymore!

I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.

by Sarge Clemins on May 17, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

dam!

someone sure remembers being eliminated by the Suns. Huh Dex! good shit man!

"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG

"The fact that the Lakers have played to such a high level even through the injuries is a testament to their skill, abilities, and resiliency." - 99bc99

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 17, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

LMFWAO!!!! and rec

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by Sarge Clemins on May 17, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

daaamn ...lol

I don't do it for your thanks, I do it because I had a calling, but I do love the support you give me and my Soldiers.

by Sarge Clemins on May 17, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

clickable link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hapOVWnNlp8

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by KBZ on May 17, 2010 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chris Webber is going off on the Suns right now

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by Sarge Clemins on May 17, 2010 10:21 PM PDT reply actions  

switch it up

I hope the Lakers, if they beat the Suns can adjust their game to the more physical kind because that’s what they’re gonna face against the Celtics in the finals.They couldn’t do two years ago. I hope they are ready for a physical battle this time and low scoring, very physical games. They gotta dish out some punishment themselves. I’d like to see Fish take the initiative and Artest play some lock down defense. And I’d really like to see Lamar, Gasol and Bynum play strong this time.

Magic made me a Laker fan.

by thestuff01 on May 17, 2010 10:23 PM PDT reply actions  

That's funny

There was a post on Brightsideofthesun saying exactly the same thing about Phoenix….
It’ll be a foul fest game 2 if both teams adjust to be more physical.

by Chucko667 on May 17, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

just play that 39 point game in the locker room

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by KBZ on May 17, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

?

that’s the laker’s strong suit this season.

by _logan_ on May 17, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, if anything, we welcome physical games because we have the personnel now to turn it in our favor

Boston is also a far cry from where they were at during ‘07-’08 — Pierce and Garnett especially are pale shadows of their former selves.

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by Ben R on May 17, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

let's not get ahead of ourselves

PP and KG arent the same but neither is Rondo

Pau and Lamar have toughened up but if we get past the Suns the Finals should be very tough

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by KBZ on May 17, 2010 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rondo alone can't make up for the loss of scoring punch from those two

Otherwise Boston’s offense would be clicking much better. Perhaps more than any team Boston has faced so far in the playoffs, we can disrupt what they try to do on offense because we can shut down their primary wing threat (Pierce) and make Garnett work far harder than he’s has to against Lewis, Jamison, and Haslem.

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by Ben R on May 17, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

indeed

I wonder how our offense will fare against there “stifling” defense

going into the playoffs the celtics were the team that scared me the least

but i too am getting way ahead of myself

still got 3 more wins to go in this series

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by KBZ on May 18, 2010 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

i dig what you're sayin'

one game at a time

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by altree on May 18, 2010 5:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Good points. But Pierce can still go off, but I like our chances with Artest covering him. Let’s see how this series goes and then talk about it… I’m ahead of myself, too, but we’ve been doing it all year.

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by thestuff01 on May 19, 2010 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pau said it best

when he made that baseline move against Stoudamire and got fouled around the 9 minute mark in the 4th… ‘He can’t f—k with me." Swear to God, watch the replay when he and Kobe celebrate. That.was.awesome. I also posted in an earlier thread that while peeps were worried about Bynum, I was more focused on Odom. Just like Kenny Smith said, this is his series, and as long as he’s putting up halfway decent numbers like tonight, it’s o-v-e-r.

by Joseflin99 on May 17, 2010 10:27 PM PDT reply actions  

There was smack talking going on all over the place.

JRich, Artest, Kobe, Gasol, Amare, Hill, Dudley…. all running their mouth.
I vote for more microphones on the floor to pick up what’s being said.

by Chucko667 on May 17, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

that kobe - dudley matchup was comedy.

clearly kobe didn’t take well to dudley’s remarks about hitting him on the finger…

by _logan_ on May 17, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

a lot of it would be bleeped

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by altree on May 17, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is that what he said?

ha. I was trying to figure what he was saying, I though it was “he can’t foul me” but that makes no sense!

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by Gil Meriken on May 17, 2010 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol @ steve nash postgame

“I expect them [the lakers] to continue to be tall the next game too”

by _logan_ on May 17, 2010 10:33 PM PDT reply actions  

lol yeah

heard that one.

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by altree on May 18, 2010 5:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ranking the game +/-

from the contest

Lakers:
1) Lamar Odom +24
2) Pau Gasol +23
3) Kobe Bryant +22
4) Derek Fisher +17
5) Ron Artest +13

Phoenix:
1) Robin Lopez +2
2) Grant Hill -2
3) Leandro Barbosa -6
4) Goran Dragic -7
5) Louis Amudson -8

Lopez really threw a wrench in everyone’s contest entry…nobody thought he’d even be playing

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by Justin N. on May 17, 2010 10:35 PM PDT reply actions  

lol. true.

how did grant hill only get -2?

by Nostance on May 17, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

because he did a fantastic job on Kobe.

I know everyone in this thread will disagree. but Kobe went off for 20 with Hill on the bench… i’m just sayin’

by Chucko667 on May 17, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

if by fantastic

you mean better than the atrocity that was Jared Dudley and Jason Richardson then yes you are correct sir

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by Justin N. on May 17, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, i mean that he held the best player in the NBA to 12 first half points

and limited his effectiveness. I give old man Hill plenty of Kudos for that.

But yes, JRich and Dudley were not a good match. Kobe proved that in the 3rd.

by Chucko667 on May 17, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

hill was definitely better than dudley and jrich

but kobe usually doesn’t score that much in the 1st half relative to the 2nd anyways

by Nostance on May 17, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know what the first half numbers were for Kobe

but as far as I remember he was pretty efficient

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by Justin N. on May 17, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was efficient in what he did

but Hill’s tactic was to deny him the ball, and deny him the easy drive which he did well.
This forced Kobe to be a passer, or not to receive the ball at all.

So yes, when he got it he was efficient, and hats off to him for not taking the outside jumpers when he couldn’t drive. but Hill did his job, and did it well.

But the guy’s 38. he got tired.

by Chucko667 on May 17, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hill really couldnt stop Kobe from getting into the lane at will

as evidenced by the breaking of ankles and leaving Grant Laying on the ground reaching to foul while Kobe drove to the rack….He might disrupt his post game but having him get in the lane and breaking down the defense is a much worse option imo

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by EmmCeee on May 18, 2010 2:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

For me its the consistent inconsistency that concerns me - PAGFL
It's always AMMO Time, in spirit- DexterFishmore

by 99bc99 on May 18, 2010 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

the old ankle-breaker.

should be a law against doing that to a 37-year old man… OUCH! (It was a partial slip. Great move, in any case)

by Whipp on May 18, 2010 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

the slip was caused by Kobe's cross over..lol

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by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 18, 2010 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tweleve first half points is still good....

and making Kobe a passer is not bad either….people criticize Kobe for shooting too much. Either way, Lakers win.

by Kobe B on May 17, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

with Gentry's crazy rotations

its hard to pick +/- for his team.

Lakers were easy

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by Justin N. on May 17, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's all in God's plan guys!

The Sun always sets in the West.
Has for the last 4.5 billion years and will for the next few billion also. =P

by AndyChrono on May 17, 2010 10:35 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

lol, comment on BSotS
One thing I HATED

On that dunk attempt from Shannon Brown, where he jumped 93,428,423 feet in the air: I can’t freaking stand that JRich moved when Brown ran into him. If you’re going to run up and take the charge, TAKE THE DAMN CHARGE. Don’t shy away at the last minute and pick up a stupid foul. Let him drive the lane and try to block from the side or behind, or take the charge like a man.

even they admit that it wasn’t a charge

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by akb24b on May 17, 2010 10:38 PM PDT reply actions  

JRich was set a good couple of seconds before Brown hit him, but then he moved just as the contact was made.
If he hadn’t flinched it was a clear cut charge. no question about it.

The fact is tho, that he did flinch.

by Chucko667 on May 17, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

you can't help but flinch if the other guy's knee is in your face

you can’t blame jrich for flinching on that one. keeping his face in tact is definitely top priority

by Nostance on May 17, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate to say it (because i'm sick of Ginobili and Varajao's crap) but.

If the guy hits you, you have to take it….. and flop.
JRich didn’t flop. he flinched. = no charge.

If he had flopped he would’ve gotten the call.
If he had taken the blow he would’ve gotten the call.

He didn’t do either of these things.

by Chucko667 on May 17, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

exactly why the Suns new D is not as good as it seems.

There is no toughness. The Lakers lacked that in 08 and lost. Something I think the Suns will learn this series. How can Amare only get 3 rebounds? Wow.

by Kobe B on May 17, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

cuz LO stole the rest of them...

and also, the lakers shot at an insane percentage…so there weren’t many boards to grab in the first place

by Nostance on May 17, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

uh..I don't think it was knee that was in his face.. : )

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by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 17, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

UPS air almost went VC

on that 7 foot French guy. Almost cleared his head…damn…

by Whipp on May 18, 2010 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was watching with my girlfriend, who doesn't really even pay attention to the game,

and this made even her jaw drop as she caught a glimpse of Shannon flying through the air.

I’d honestly be terrified if I ever had to land from that high off of the ground.

I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.

by Rich Langford on May 17, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

just saw this on docfunk

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by akb24b on May 17, 2010 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I watched that 3 times on DVR

that dude got like 5.6 feet in the air, unbelievable.

by Ceek on May 18, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I had flash backs to these great Laker moments:



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by LakersFoEva on May 18, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was so good to see that killer instinct come out tonight!

The Suns made their little runs and instead of the Lakers waiting to snap out of the funk until it got close they kept there foot on their throats!

I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.

by Rich Langford on May 17, 2010 10:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Does it even matter that the Lakers bench scored 44 and the Suns bench scored 35?

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by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 17, 2010 10:46 PM PDT reply actions  

No Brown attempted dunk clip?

Sad panda. :(

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by Ben R on May 17, 2010 10:46 PM PDT reply actions  

I told Dex that if that clip wasn't in the postgame thread, I'd be a sad panda

And we have sad panda.

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by Ben R on May 17, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cItICUhGNc

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by Madz on May 17, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha, yeah, I know, I'm just having my fun

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by Ben R on May 17, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

awesome

even luke and fish were like “WTF just happened”?

by Nostance on May 17, 2010 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

C'ya all

Have a fun Game 2.

Go Suns.

by Chucko667 on May 17, 2010 10:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Laterz

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by akb24b on May 17, 2010 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh shit your a Suns fan? j/k.

hope you come back. Go Lakers!

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by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 17, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL DEX

This is sooo-true

You’re not in San Antonio anymore.

There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be committed against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the Limelight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.

by BrittneyM on May 17, 2010 11:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Game 2 should be fun, I'm out for tonight, see ya'll next thread

Suns are looking to shut down the rest of Kobe’s teammates, I will look forward to see how they attempt to do that one….good luck Suns

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by BrittneyM on May 17, 2010 11:27 PM PDT reply actions  

peace out... : )

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by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 17, 2010 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

What the Suns fans need to realize

is that their “improved” defense is relative to their previous selves and may or may not reflect actual “good” defense or may be just a “fluke”.

On the other hand, the Laker’s improved offense (from the regular season) is not just a byproduct of facing the Utah D or a fluke. While the stats from this regular season may show that we are only a “mediocre” offensive team, history from the past two seasons says that we were one of the elite offensive teams (with basically the same roster).

In other words, us being a “great offensive” team is much more proven than them being a “good defensive” team.

by Nostance on May 17, 2010 11:32 PM PDT reply actions  

From what I gather in Suns interviews and stuff that I've watched

is that the Suns “improved” defense equates to them talking about getting stops during timeouts, etc. This was said by Grant Hill during the playoffs when asked about their new “defense”.

This makes me wonder two things: 1) was there a point where this team never talked at all about getting stops and 2) do they even practice defense

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by Justin N. on May 17, 2010 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Another thing to take into account

We only had nine turnovers as a team. Between that, our mile-high field goal percentage, and our offensive rebounding, Phoenix rarely had transition or semi-transition opportunities. This aspect also isn’t going to get better for Phoenix — they’re awful at forcing turnovers on the defensive end. If we’re taking care of the ball and rebounding our misses, the remaining games will look very similar to tonight’s.

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by Ben R on May 17, 2010 11:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, that too

Which makes the ease at which we got good looks very disturbing for Phoenix.

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by Ben R on May 18, 2010 1:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Man I am slow

I just realized Vanessa Bryant’s “Do I Look Legal?” shirt was not referring to her age … oops…

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by Gil Meriken on May 17, 2010 11:59 PM PDT reply actions  

lmao!

hilarious!

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by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 18, 2010 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

some guy on the news said it read “do i look illegal?”

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by KBZ on May 18, 2010 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

He's wrong...

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by With Malice on May 18, 2010 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ready for adjustments
Bryant said, “They send two guys at me, I’ve done my job. We’ll be ready if that happens.”

Crazy thing is, Kobe only played 35 min tonight – he could have had 50+ points if the game had been close!

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by Gil Meriken on May 18, 2010 12:19 AM PDT reply actions  

That's the thing...

There’s all this talk of the Suns making ‘adjustments’, but the crazy thing is, I think LA still have a gear or two to shift into.
- Gasol had what I’d call a “less-than-average” game by his standards…
- Bynum will be hoping to be a lil’ better… (not sure how realistic that is tho’!)
- Fish was very so-so…
- Ron was ok, but will want to step both D/O up a bit…
- Even tho’ Kobe’s end line looked good, he did score 21 points in the 3rd. He can get better!

Only Laker who was out-there-good was LO.

Sure, PHX will step it up… but so will the Lakers.

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by With Malice on May 18, 2010 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good points

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by Gil Meriken on May 18, 2010 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

i think our offense was as good as it gets.

fish and pau could’ve put up more points, but that would mean taking away shots from the others (in a game where we already shot near 60% from the field). the only thing was, they played on less minutes, so the numbers will look a little down.

the defense though, is what i’d like to see. phoenix will start hitting their 3’s and get some friendly rolls at some point. I want to see if lakers can limit more penetration and easy cuts inside. In other words, I don’t want to see roben lopez posting 14 on the scoreboard.

by Nostance on May 18, 2010 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm... I disagree.

Sure, shots fell, but Ron was – again – awful from 3, and Gasol didn’t see much of the ball.
Given the Suns D (supposedly good? Or so we’ve been told), I think that % isn’t too far away from what we’ll see for LA for the series…

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by With Malice on May 18, 2010 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

but gasol shot the shots he did have at an incredibly high percentage already.

plus, most those extra shots went to kobe…who was already being ultra-efficient.

by Nostance on May 18, 2010 1:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

The one thing that Suns fans were talking about was how this team

was more defensive minded. I didn’t see that. What happened was that Amare decided to play defense but in this series that changed. Guarding Pau is a huge difference.

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by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 18, 2010 12:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

i think what happened was that each player might have cranked up their individual energy & activity on defense

but it doesn’t mean they got better in terms of “team defense”. that requires a lot more communication and well…practice. if it hasn’t been happening all year (or previous years), it’s going to be really hard to keep up, especially when being tested against a team that has a record of being having a “great offense” (when they play it right).

by Nostance on May 18, 2010 1:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

There's also only so much you can do with players who have bad defensive instincts

You can put them in better positions to do well, but at a certain point, there has to be a reciprocal reaction from the individual player. It isn’t effort insomuch as instinctual actions — how do I cut off this driving lane, what move will he counter with from here, how can I deny him this position, what position should I take to properly box out if he shoots here, and so on and such forth. Trying harder can help, but it doesn’t do you a whole lot of good when you’re not doing the individual actions that are necessary for solid defense, especially when facing players with offensive games as polished as Kobe and Gasol.

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by Ben R on May 18, 2010 1:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

instincts are definitely important

instincts will be about how quickly you can grasp the concepts and how quickly you can react to a new situation.

however, with practice and repeition, the behavior can be “learned” and become somewhat “instinctive”. that’s why veterans are valuable and rookies make stupid mistakes. with enough practice and experience, some things can become instinctive. if you see a play run enough times, you kind of have an idea of what happens next and what you should do, whether you should switch or help or whatevers. you may not become the next scottie pippen, but you’ll become at least a decent defender (given you have the physical abilities…unlike derek who has the instinct but his body can’t keep up).

the suns? i don’t think they practice defense enough to instill the “defensive instincts” to in their guys…whether on an individual or team level.

by Nostance on May 18, 2010 1:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, to some degree, insticts can be "learned"

But there are players who never quite “get it,” even veterans. We get rookies who come in with better defensive instincts than a lot of players because it comes more naturally for them.

Regardless, I agree that Phoenix is largely deficient on both accounts. I would say that, at the very least, they practice general concepts (particularly various zones), but definitely not the specifics needed for a robust team defense.

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by Ben R on May 18, 2010 1:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Um ... no
""Just can’t happen," Suns swingman Jared Dudley said of Bryant’s eruption … [Kobe] can have 40," Dudley continued, “but he’s got to shoot 35 shots.”

If he shoots 35 shots, he’s getting at least 50 …

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by Gil Meriken on May 18, 2010 12:24 AM PDT reply actions  

With the way he was getting to the line, 60

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by Ben R on May 18, 2010 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

just let him launch 46 shots.

and lets see how close he gets to 81.

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by Madz on May 18, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait ...

Which team was supposed to be an offensive juggernaut?

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by Gil Meriken on May 18, 2010 12:28 AM PDT reply actions  

not the Lakers

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by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 18, 2010 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

WTF?

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by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 18, 2010 1:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

hell no I'm slow. : )

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by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 18, 2010 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol

me too

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by altree on May 18, 2010 5:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

creative

rec

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by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 18, 2010 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Umm.. ok

Back to basketball, that pass from Pau to a back cutting Kobe was sweet!

I think Pau doesn’t get enough credit for what he does, and sometimes I think it’s because I don’t want to give him TOO much credit, lest people start getting ideas that he’s more valuable than Kobe, but I think after a game like this, Pau’s contribution gets lost among the games of Kobe and Odom, and that is not right…. Gasol is the second best player on the Lakers and that is pretty damn awesome, he is the most enjoyable post player to watch, he’s so much more of a natural fit to play with Kobe than Shaq ever was, I love his game. It’s late, i’m rambling …

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by Gil Meriken on May 18, 2010 12:55 AM PDT reply actions  

I kept waiting for that to have relevance...

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by With Malice on May 18, 2010 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

We all ramble at 1am

consistently speaking Pau has been better. Although Kobe is the best talent on the team Gasol has provided more reliable scoring.

"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG

"The fact that the Lakers have played to such a high level even through the injuries is a testament to their skill, abilities, and resiliency." - 99bc99

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 18, 2010 12:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

the ratings of pau is bimodal sometimes

there’s the one camp that underrates him and thinks he is that much worse than the amare’s and the boshes (which he isn’t…if at all).

and then there’s the camp that think he’s more valuable than kobe…

bascially, those who argue often cannot see the middle ground…

by Nostance on May 18, 2010 1:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I believe you did.

The half-crazed ramblings of a Lakers fanatic living in Japan...

by With Malice on May 18, 2010 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol, i hope it was a mistake

i wasn’t exactly sure how to respond to it.

by jan-jan on May 18, 2010 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are you trying to say someone was ugly?

"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG

"The fact that the Lakers have played to such a high level even through the injuries is a testament to their skill, abilities, and resiliency." - 99bc99

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 18, 2010 1:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

believe me, I did

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.

by Justin N. on May 18, 2010 1:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

no

thankfully, I gave it the ol ‘tl;dr’

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.

by Justin N. on May 18, 2010 1:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

i did what the SATs taught me back in the days

read the first and last paragraph and skim the begining sentence of each paragraph.

by Nostance on May 18, 2010 1:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I could never do that

I had to close read the whole thing or I’d lose points.

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.

by Ben R on May 18, 2010 3:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Depends on Westbrook's improvement

and what we do in the offseason to address our pg/sg situation. Kobe’s a given but Fisher and Farmar are FAs and brown can opt out. If we get a good defensive pg it’ll help to stop Westbrook no matter how good he gets.

by Marty Mart on May 18, 2010 6:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

what is that deep bench you are talking about?

You can't pick that ball up and run with it
-Phil Jackson

by Madz on May 18, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alvin Gentry on Kobe

“I’m pretty sure we’re not the first team he’s scored 40 on.” lol. I had to laugh when I heard him say that.

by Marty Mart on May 18, 2010 6:08 AM PDT reply actions  

something i keep reading over at the Sun's board..

“Its only 1 game”
“We will make adjustment and win game 2”

??
Uhmm were they not watching the same game i was. Phx was destroyed in all aspects of the game. You mean tell me we’ve been hearing about this so called “improved D” and we almost put up 130 on a blistering +56% shooting? The game got embarrassing during the 4th..as far as im concerned they shouldnt have suited up at all. Kobe sat almost the entire 4th and unless Phx find away to grow..i predict extreme PWNAGE on Wednesday.

by Kobe Won Kenobi on May 18, 2010 6:12 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

those are some H A N D S

Last night he almost took the roof off and didn’t even complete the dunk

by Jevon O on May 18, 2010 7:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I expect the Suns to play better

I’m not sure if we got into their “style of play” and just won or something, but I’m not really happy with the 1.16 points per possession the suns put up. I don’t think they’ll have a shitty night from Frye and Richardson come next game.

We may have a shitty night from Odom, and Drew is still hurting.

I sure hope we lock down on defense and continue our offensive push.

For me its the consistent inconsistency that concerns me - PAGFL
It's always AMMO Time, in spirit- DexterFishmore

by 99bc99 on May 18, 2010 7:44 AM PDT reply actions  

The one thing that has my confidence waaaaaay up

is that the Lakers can adjust to the Suns having a good shooting night because they are a good defensive team. As long as they hold true to that they should be ok.

"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG

"The fact that the Lakers have played to such a high level even through the injuries is a testament to their skill, abilities, and resiliency." - 99bc99

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 18, 2010 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

About the Suns offense

What kept their offensive night just about their season average was an inordinate amount of free throw attempts. On the regular season, they averaged .24 FT/FGA, and tonight were around .4. The Lakers can survive an uptick in shooting if it comes with a downturn in free throws.

by C.A. Clark on May 18, 2010 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Was it agressiveness on their part?

Poor defense on ours? I remember they took a lot of free throws, but they got a handful during garbage time that just padded the stats. Good analysis though, we would have held them under 100 points had they shot near their season average.

For me its the consistent inconsistency that concerns me - PAGFL
It's always AMMO Time, in spirit- DexterFishmore

by 99bc99 on May 18, 2010 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

i wouldn't say richardson had a bad night. he shot 50% from the field and 50% from the 3's

although, he didn’t attempt any FTs. But the suns did get a whole bunch of FTs as a team for such as jump-shooty team.

by Nostance on May 18, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

IM A LITTLE DISSAPOINTED IN MY FELLOW LAKER FANS!!!

I dont parcipate in the game threads, as my computer at home is too slow. But I read them the next day during my breaks at work.

And no where in the game thread did I see the words:

“GET OUT OF MY WAY SATURN”

very dissapointing…………..

"I work my ass off every day in practice. How many other guys can say the same thing? Not many. I'm fighting against becoming soft. That's the worse thing you can say to a basketball player." - Dennis Rodman

by LakersFoEva on May 18, 2010 11:00 AM PDT reply actions  

anyone notice how it was cloudy yesterday?

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on May 18, 2010 12:25 PM PDT reply actions  

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