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A Profound Examination of the Lakers 2009-2010 Season

Warning: If you are offended by pessimism, do not read this article.

I consider myself a decent writer.  In fact, I've always thought about attempting to write for SS&R at least part time.  I think I could hang with the big kids.  Wonda, Saurav, Gil, CA, Dex, and the artist formerly known as Josh Tucker are all admirable linguists.  I've put a pretty decent amount of effort into the few fanposts I've written for this site.  I know a LOT more than the average fan does about the Lakers and the NBA in general.  I read stats, articles, and blogs about basketball all day long.  I play in two fantasy basketball leagues.  Are you not convinced yet?

That being said, the following article may not reflect my best work.  Hopefully it still entertains.

Star-divide

The Lakers have essentially locked up the best spot in the West somehow despite playing a wholeeeeeee lot of ugly basketball this season.  That being said, they also have the highest payroll in the NBA.  As a result, their fans pay the most in the NBA to see them play.  They SHOULD have the best damn record in the NBA.  Anything less is a disappointment.  They got close this season.  We'll have to call it "good enough" going into the playoffs.  Maybe injuries hampered them along the way a little bit. 

But ask me if the Lakers one time this season put together 48 minutes of solid effort and hustle to win a basketball game.  One time.  Out of 82.  Once.  Uno.  Actually, I can think of maybe one game in Utah where they dominated the Jazz on the road without Kobe.  Fine.  There's one.  Ask me again if the Lakers have averaged more than 12 minutes total per game this season of playing on a level that their payroll, coaching staff, and talent reflects.  One time.  Out of 82.  Once.  Uno.  Harder for me to answer this one yes.  Hell, ask any of the Laker *players* this same question and I'd put money on their answer being no. 

Am I supposed to be fucking okay with that?

The Grizzlies aren't making the playoffs in the West, but they don't really expend the dollar amount required to get you a spot.  Their tickets are dirt cheap too.  If I was as big of a Grizzlie fan living in Memphis as I was a Laker fan, I'd have a lot of fun going to games once maybe even twice a week and enjoying myself.  Instead I'm a Laker fan living in LA.  I'm lucky if I go to two games a year because tickets to anything that should resemble a decent game are outrageously expensive.  Once at the game, I sit down in butt-fuck Egypt to watch and find myself instantly regretting my decision to attend. It's so god damn dark that half the crowd is asleep and I get a better view of the action from a fucking grainy justin.tv feed on my desktop at home.  To top it all off, the Lakers are likely playing like dogshit or at the very least down to their competition to the point where I, as a knowledgeable NBA fan, just get frustrated at the lack of focus, effort, execution, insert stupid Kobe post-game interview word here.

Is this okay?  Am I supposed to accept this?  What if I pay to go to these games?  What if I was a SEASON TICKET HOLDER?  Am I essentially paying people to under perform at work?

So many things have gone awry with the Lakers this season and it extends WELL beyond the injury issues.  Injuries haven't even been all that bad to be honest.  Look at Portland.  THEY have injury issues.  The coaching staff and the players have sleepwalked (sleptwalk?) through the season with a sense of entitlement, believing that they are destined like last year to win the title.  And now here we sit.  On the eve of the playoffs with this Laker team as beaten up and playing as poorly as they have in over 2 years. 

Acceptable? 

What the fuck was PJ thinking when he completely ditched Vujacic in favor of Brown earlier this season?  Brown got hot while Vujacic got cold IN THE PRESEASON and Phil pretty much switched their roster spots and NEVER looked back.  Could our offensive woes have something to do with the fact that whenever Shannon gets his hands on the ball the Laker possession usually ends in a bad fadeaway jumper?  I mean, Vujacic tends to rush shots but he's no where NEAR as atrocious offensively as Shannon and he shoots MUCH better from distance.  Do you know what Shannon's attempted field goals per minute played this season are?  0.34.  Now you may say "Hey Justin...that seems like a small number worthy of a shooting guard who is averaging a career high in minutes coming off the bench".  To that I would respond: "Do you know what Pau Gasol's attempted field goals per minute played this season are?"  ZERO POINT THREE FUCKING FOUR.  Yes you read that correctly.  SHANNON BROWN has been as big a part of our offense this season as PAU GOD DAMN GASOL.  And people wonder what is wrong offensively???

AM I SUPPOSED TO BE OKAY WITH THIS?!?!?

It's hard to question a man with a history like PJ, but maybe he actually is a shitty coach when it comes to player rotations.  After all, he has had stellar teams winning him titles.  Maybe he's just an ego manager team builder kinda guy and isn't much of an actual basketball coach.  Remember this little bitty from last year.

Luke Walton:  Hey...whitey....wake up!

Phil Jackson: Ho...hum...ah...Luke...what is it, my son?

LW: Why the fuck am I starting ahead of Trevor Ariza?

PJ: Humm...what?  You think Trevor should start?

LW: Yes, dipshit.

PJ: Okay I'll look at the rotations when I get up from this nap...I only got 12 hours of sleep last night.

How do we know what the fuck would have happened if Luke Walton never would have came to Jackson last year and ASKED to be benched in favor of Ariza getting the start?!  Do you even want to consider what could have been?  Oh I know.  Maybe PJ knew that Luke would play a key part in a championship run for the Lakers and some team would take his ridiculous, fat, what-the-fuck-were-they-thinking contract off our hands and we'd have Ariza and Artest playing SF for us this year.  I get it now.  PJ, I take it back, you are a FUCKING GENIUS.  Also, fuck you Luke Walton.

Why the fuck doesn't Kobe watch the damn games when he's injured?  Kobe.  I love you to death and you are my fucking IDOL but support your god damn team.  Am I supposed to believe that your knee/foot/pinkie is so bad that you can't afford to take 2 hours off from therapy to support the franchise the team that is writing your legacy?  As much as I love you it's SO HARD to believe that.  Especially when you participate in shootaround THIRTY MINUTES PRIOR.  Maybe I am just jaded by watching other games where superstars like Kevin Durant, Dwayne Wade, Chris Paul, and LeBron James cheer their team on through the good and bad in street clothes on the sidelines.  I mean, what the fuck is so different about Kobe's situation?  If someone can explain it to me in a sensible, convincing manner PLEASE DO SO.

Maybe watching a close fourth quarter in Denver last night where the Kobe-less Lakers take the time on the court to huddle up and discuss something as a team  surprises me.  Maybe I think to myself, "hey this kind of shit should definitely NOT surprise me".  Maybe it surprises me AGAIN when they do it a few possessions later.  Maybe this gets me thinking about 5 or 6 games where Kobe has not been a part of the team and how the the Laker's overall effort and hustle has been TREMENDOUSLY more consistent.  Maybe this gets me thinking that there is something wrong with this team.

Is it Kobe's fault?  Not necessarily.  Is it the coaching staff's?  Maybe, maybe not.  I don't know who's fault it is, but something is CLEARLY WRONG WITH THIS TEAM.

Among others, Reggie Miller throws around the notion of "flipping a switch" come playoff time.  The Lakers need a lot more than that.  Derek Fisher and Ron Artest need to go to the Northern LA Power Grid sometime past midnight this weekend.  Ron Artest needs to do his best "grizzly bear on roller skates" impression in front of the guards (just bring a basketball for him, shouldn't be hard) while Fish dons a ski mask and breaks into the main computer room.  Once there, he needs to sacrifice his remaining lifeforce if need be to BOOT THAT SHIT UP and turn on the fucking razzle dazzle.

Maybe they will.  Maybe the Lakers will somehow win another championship this year like they should.  I sure as hell hope they do.

But until then, am I supposed to be okay with the Laker's 2009-2010 season?

Because I sure as hell am not.

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Engine off, jets cooling.  Thanks for reading.

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"Butt-fuck Egypt"????

!?!?!?!!!!?!!??!?!!!!?!?!!??

ROTFL

Did you go to Egypt some time this year?

by WaveOcean on Apr 9, 2010 1:07 AM PDT reply actions  

just a phrase I grew up with

to mean “the middle of nowhere”

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.

by Justin N. on Apr 9, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

The beauty of this site is the ability to be able to create a post like yours

great write up. If I look at the history of me being a fan and start thinking of how much money I spent towards being a Lakers fan and I compare that to what I have been given in return from this organization it doesn’t even compare. I have received in many more way that I can count much more in return. That is just my take on it.

Now on to their recent play sure we are all pissed and upset with this team. Well I can’t speak for everyone else but I am not. Check back with me after the season is over then I might have more harsh criticism. But as of now the real season begins April 17 I won’t worry until the playoffs start.

"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 9, 2010 6:29 AM PDT reply actions  

Amen!!!!

pslakerfan: "Well if you can get in (the Hall of Fame) by being a scorer who doesn't rebound or play defense.....
Then I guess you can get in by being a rebounder and defender who can’t score." referring to Dennis Rodman

by KobeisGod on Apr 9, 2010 10:57 AM PDT reply actions  

I've often wondered about this as well...

Why the fuck doesn’t Kobe watch the damn games when he’s injured?

Not sure?

For me its the consistent inconsistency that concerns me - PAGFL

by 99bc99 on Apr 9, 2010 11:03 AM PDT reply actions  

kobes weird

i think hes the GOAT but there is something weird about that man

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by Czheck on Apr 9, 2010 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

still in search of a good answer to this

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.

by Justin N. on Apr 9, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well I consider the fact that

he basically doesn’t leave the treatment center until late at night and comes back early morning to receive treatment round the clock to be the reason. I’m sure his wife asks Kobe, “why can’t you make love to me tonight? Can’t you take, insert either low or high sexual stimulation time, to come and lay in bed with me?” Its not like he’s never watched on the sideline before, he has. He just doesn’t if he knows treatment will get him back on the floor sooner. If he were to have a season-ending injury he would be there. Its not anything new for him not be on the floor watching, but I’m sure there are tvs in the locker room so its not like he’s not watching, and we don’t know if he comes in and speaks at halftime or not. Besides, I like it better when he’s not there because it gives them a better chance to figure it out themselves instead of being all in the huddle like Lebron/Wade. I don’t think thats necessary when they have to learn to do it on their own, especially with this team.

by Marty Mart on Apr 10, 2010 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

awesome read man!!!!!!

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by KobeistheGOAT on Apr 10, 2010 4:11 AM PDT reply actions  

Overall,

Over the past three seasons, you have gotten to see your team play in 2 finals and this season you have watched them win the West. Something a Grizzlies fan wishes they could say they’ve ever seen. Its understandable to be upset about the lack of overall effort, but its really not the end of the world. You take a risk when you buy a ticket to see you team lose or win. You also take the risk of seeing the lose badly or win and beat up on a team, which is not fun to watch in my opinion. Be honest with yourself. While it does better for your peace of mind for the Lakers to blow out teams, you’d much rather WATCH the Lakers go head to head with teams. I know I don’t even watch blow-outs on tv half the time unless I’m really bored. Its just like the argument about paying to see the superstars play. You run the risk of them playing or not playing and you also run the risk that they may get injured that game so you don’t get to see them the whole time. The answer to that question is a matter of what you prefer to see later. The answer to this is simple, if you don’t feel it worth it to buy tickets to see the Lakers play then don’t. If you still find the urge to, don’t complain just because you watched someone half-ass it. They play 82 games, plus some in the playoffs. You want to watch a good game, save up all your money for the playoffs and buy tickets to those games, something most other fanbases, like the Grizzlies for example, can’t even do.

by Marty Mart on Apr 10, 2010 9:02 AM PDT reply actions  

I live in Tn

And to be honest a Grizzlies game is the shit..Win or lose you know they are gonna play hard as hell and you feel like whatever you paid for the ticket was worth it….Personally I love watching the Lakers beat the hell outta somebody because usually you have more exciting plays ie Alley oops, 3’s showtime dunks and blocks plus they are winning so all is well…This year they dont even beat up on the teams they are supposed to beat up on. To be Honest the Lakers arent worth the ticket prices fans pay to watch them play……Even if i have the money to spend i wouldnt waste it to watch the Lakers underachieve.

As long as Fisher is on the floor, we always have a chance to lose

by EmmCeee on Apr 10, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

ok

but when was the last time you watched the Grizzlies in the playoffs for more than 7 games. When was the last time you said you know I’m glad the Grizzlies don’t make it to the playoffs so that they play hard to get there. We’ve had so many highlights of the Lakers this year even though they’re playing like crap. We have 5+ buzzer beaters. We have Shannon’s highlight reel. We have the pounding of the Suns. The pounding of the Jazz. The Lakers don’t pound on teams they should, but hell no other team really has been pounding on the things they should. The Celtics have lost to the Nets. The Cavs lost to the Jazz when their team was going through injuries, Sundiata Gaines anyone?. The Magic have lost some gimme games.
Ticket prices are about the market value of the team. The Grizzlies without plans for a postseason and a relatively low payroll can afford to make you pay less for tickets because it is to entice more people to come to increase profits to increase payroll to get better a a team to get to where the Lakers are every year. The Lakers have a bigger fanbase thereby increasing demand on limited supply and upping the price. Its economics not greed. you have celebrities, moms, dads, students, teachers, everyone wants to go watch the Lakers when they play and because of that you have two things: one the Lakers have to spend the money to stay good and keep their fanbase and two the ticket prices will go up as long as the Lakers maintain their winning ways. At the end of the day like I said, if you don’t feel that its worth it to buy a ticket don’t. I wish I had the opportunity to buy a ticket to an LA game. The one game I planned on going to, I missed a flight so I couldn’t.
You really wanna complain about underachieving when for the first ten games of the season we missed one big man. We’ve been missing another big man. We’ve been fitting in other parts. Perhaps no other top-tier team has had as many injuries and changes besides the Magic. You wanna talk about underachieving. Look at the season Celtics fans have had to look at. Folks getting on here all pissy and moany. I can’t believe this. I grew up in freaking Wisconsin with the Milwaukee Bucks, you know where the best team to come out of that in the past decade got destroyed by the Lakers. I’m just saying things could be so much worse than a team going through a playing slump on the backside of a CHAMPIONSHIP season. I’ll continue to root for positive things in the future and you can continue to go watch the Grizzlies get pummeled with their effort. GTFO underachieving. I cannot believe this.

by Marty Mart on Apr 10, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lakers have underachieved this season

you can’t use injuries as an excuse for everything. Even when this team had a 100% roster it had it’s first 3 game losing streak in 2 years.

Now whether you’re fine with that as a fan is up to you. I’m not here to tell you that you should have the same attitude as me and quite frankly, I’m glad we don’t have it as bad as the Celtics (though in 2 years, we might). But as a basketball fan that expects certain things from certain talents I’ve been honestly more disgusted and disappointed by the Lakers on average this season than happy.

Just don’t blame injuries, please.

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by Justin N. on Apr 10, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is what I'm talking about tho

What are you complaining about here? 3 games. 3 games? Are you serious right now. Look at teh statistics for that 2000-2001 team. Statistically, we are playing the same way they played during the regular season. Except with slightly better offense and slightly better defense. This is why I’m not really worried or upset because I know that this happens on the other side of a championship season, especially one with injuries.

by Marty Mart on Apr 10, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

you’re okay with it. I’m not. It’s one thing to have trouble shooting and stuff, but it’s another thing to come out unfocused and with a lack of effort like this team does on a regular basis along with all the questionable coaching decisions throughout the season. It’s mind blowing that the Lakers have been in cruise control all season thinking that they’re far and away the best team in the league while almost every team around them is improving. I’ve said this all year: the Lakers will not have an easy a road to the Larry O’Brien as they did last year (if they do make it).

This team SHOULD be better than the 2000-2001 team. Talent wise this team far exceeds almost any Laker team since showtime. Remember when ESPN reported last year’s Lakers as one of the top 10 championship teams of all-time? I want my team to play like they should. Always. If not always, much much closer to always than the 2009-2010 Lakers did.

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by Justin N. on Apr 10, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Idk if I agreed with that assessment

that team in 00-01 was a team that literally floated through the playoffs. On paper we’re better but I think they had more solid contributions. Not to mention Fisher was actually contributing as a PG

by Marty Mart on Apr 10, 2010 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is what I'm talking about tho

Look at the statistics for that 2000-2001 team. Statistically, we are playing the same way they played during the regular season. Except with slightly better offense and slightly better defense. This is why I’m not really worried or upset because I know that this happens on the other side of a championship season, especially one with injuries. If we’re playing just to get through the regular season I’m fine. I won’t be happy if it transcends into playoff play. I wasn’t happy with the way they played during the playoffs last year, but I’m not gonna complain about it because the end result was what I was hoping for. I apply the same rule here. Besides we played well last season for the second half of the season before we slumped in the playoffs. I just don’t think there’s anything to complain about until the first round and this trend continues. If it does then I will be right with you and the same goes for EmmCee

by Marty Mart on Apr 10, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ive stated this in another Post.

You Cant compare this team to the 01 team The 01 team had 3 or 4 players who shot damn near 40% from 3 during the reg season with the others who didnt being Horry, Kobe and Devean George. The 01 Team had SHAQ who was actually the reason for this whole “turn it on” concept. Shaq turned it on in the playoffs to the tune of 30 and 15 and dominating everyone he went up against, We dont have that on this team. The need to compare the 2 is understandable but way off in terms of what the 01 team had heading into the playoffs. I dont believe in the “turning it on” BS. Last years Lakers won 65 games and BEAT the good teams when it came time to play them. Yes they played down to the level of their competition at times But in BIG games they rose to the occasion. We havent seen that from this team so to say the playoffs will be a cure all is a bit far fetched imo..It’s not out of the question they will play better ball come playoff time and its also not out of the question they will continue this brand of BS they’ve been passing as basketball and get knocked out of the playoffs. Im hopin for the best but expecting the worst

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by EmmCeee on Apr 10, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

ill take 01 shaq over the whole laker team besides kobe

1 on 12 vs everybody but kobe 01 shaq would win

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by Czheck on Apr 10, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not showing up in Denver

getting blown out by SA on their homecourt
Getting absolutely run over by the Oklahoma City Thunder
getting wrecked not once but twice by the Cavaliers

I mean you can let off a game here and there but as far as I’m concerned this team has played inexcusably bad this season. The scary part is that no one but the fans seem to care.

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by Justin N. on Apr 10, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can compare this team to that 01 team.

For as great as you’re saying that team is, they only won 56 games. Its not like Shaq wasn’t great during the regular season, he was still at about 29 ppg and 13 rpg. Not exactly far off from what he was doing in the playoffs. The team prior to that won 67 times. I don’t get what your point is. That team was slightly worse defensively and offensively. They took so many nights off. I understand that having Shaq made a difference, but it is similar. I don’t believe in turning it on either but I do believe the playoffs gives you a better chance of curing what ails you against a team. You forget that last year’s team almost let a truly depleted Rockets team beat them even with their sense of urgency. Not to mention a few mental breaks away from being beaten by the Nuggets. Just because they played better in the regular season didn’t tell us that we’d be in a 7-game series with the Rockets or a 6-game series with the Nuggets. Idk I just can’t be like they’re gonna get kicked out because of the regular season when last year’s team played so dreadful for stretches in the playoffs after dominating the regular season. Its like saying because the Nuggets have risen to the occasion to beat the Nuggets and Cavs and Magic that they’re going to do really well in the playoffs, obviously circumstances have changed for them but thats what people were saying. I’m just saying last year showed us that so many regular season trends don’t hold up in the playoffs so I don’t see why I have to be down on this season’s playoffs. Obviously, I’ll be disappointed if this continues then but I’m just hoping it doesn’t.

by Marty Mart on Apr 10, 2010 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Definitely meant the Lakers

not the Nuggets the second time in that sentence.

by Marty Mart on Apr 10, 2010 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also,

I meant to say that team was slight better when adjusted for pace but overall this team has a better offensive rating than that team did. If anything this team has more going for it than that team. Thats all I was trying to say. This team doesn’t rely on only two players to provide 60+ ppg with little contributions from everyone else. Usually thats a good thing, but we’ll see what it means.

by Marty Mart on Apr 10, 2010 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

right

but you would have to admit the 01 team would sweep us in a 7 game series and it would prob be real ugly

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by Czheck on Apr 10, 2010 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

idk actually

a two-headed monster of a frontline is best to neutralize Shaq’s contributions a la the Spurs in 03. I think their biggest advantage would be a younger Fisher actually contributing. Bynum and Gasol and Odom down low could take advantage of their disparities there outside of Shaq. We’d be able to get Shaq in as much as foul trouble as he could get us in and I think we’d be better off relying on our bench than theirs. Plus I think old Kobe>young Kobe as far as decision making, but they’d make it into more of a shootout than a low-post brawl. Thats just my take. We can posture how much we want, but it’ll never happen so whatevs.

by Marty Mart on Apr 10, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol@gasol being a factor

he would get owned

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by Czheck on Apr 11, 2010 4:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

its more Bynum

than Gasol, I just think Gasol would help on the other PFs since they were so fundamentally horrible.

by Marty Mart on Apr 11, 2010 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also,

I don’t think that this team would get swept but I do think they’d eventually lose. The outside shooting would be the ultimate factor in deciding it really for me.

by Marty Mart on Apr 11, 2010 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

true

i see what you are saying now i thought you where trying to imply that this team could beat that team which i just dont see how it could have gone down. i watch the championships dvds all the time and the 3peat teams had so much heart something this team has none of lol

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by Czheck on Apr 11, 2010 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didnt say the 01 team was great

But compared to the year before they underachieved as far as expectations they had for themselves and fans had for them..A couple of points to make about the 01 team that dont compare to this years..

1st Shaq attempted 13 ft’s a game and Kobe 8. That’s 21 fts between 2 players which by itself can change a game.

2nd Teams had to double Shaq there was no other way to go about it and when they did we had Fisher Fox and Rider(who didnt make the playoff roster for what i cant remember) who shot 40 39 and 37% from 3 consistently add that to Kobe getting to the bucket at will and you have an unstoppable team which they showed in the playoffs.

3rd Shaq He alone is what makes any comparison to the 01 team fragile at best..The attention he demanded cant be understated…It’s not just the numbers. Its how him being there shifted the focus off everybody else.He was unstoppable and a Young Kobe was unstoppable. There was no way to defend the both of them on the floor together. You couldnt get physical and throw them off their game like teams do to Gasol. They were a different monster altogether.

With that being said, This year’s team as a whole is better than they were. There shouldnt be any comparisons to the 01 team. They should be blowing them out the water but they arent. I criticize this years team to no end because i know they can play infinitely better than they have been..They did it earlier in the season which is what makes me so critical of them now..Do i think there is a team that will beat a fully manned Laker squad in the playoffs? NO Not the Cavs not the Magic. Nuggets Jazz, or Celtics but seeing how they were playing going into the playoffs has me concerned….I want them to win it all ima Laker Fan to the heart. Ive watched them since the showtime Lakers and at all points in between so ive seen the good and the bad twice over..From the Bulls taking advantage of an injured beat up laker team in the Finals to the Nick the quick anthony peeler and eddie jones Lakers…The Sedale Threat Lakers lol so i have a different view on the team cuz i have seen it all and i dont want this Laker team to not take advantage an opportunity to start another dynasty. They have the pieces whether or not they play to their ability remains to be seen.

As long as Fisher is on the floor, we always have a chance to lose

by EmmCeee on Apr 10, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

agreed

but you would take this squad over 01? i def wouldnt but thats just because kobes hurt and everybody else either has a good game or is really bad

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by Czheck on Apr 10, 2010 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

As of right now?

No i wouldnt take this Laker squad over any of the 3peat Laker teams. You give me a healthy Kobe and Bynum then it might be a battle but those Laker teams were tough as hell and would beat you up. I dont know if this Laker squad could handle it for a series..The last time they went up against a team like that they got their ass kicked in the Finals

As long as Fisher is on the floor, we always have a chance to lose

by EmmCeee on Apr 11, 2010 1:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well I've been watching them play since the

eddie jones Lakers as well. I’m just saying from my standpoint. This team is falling under the same pressure that team fell under. There were cracks in the armor that year they just didn’t completely fall apart until two years later. It was just a comparison of where mentally the Lakers are not talent wise.
Also, as you said this team has shown flashes and that year all they showed were flashes. Other teams do double our bigs and make them kick it out. We weren’t exactly a hot-shooting 3-pt team last year in the reg season either. It just so happened people caught fire at that time in the playoffs. I just don’t think this team has played up to potential and I think a playoff series and atmosphere is what they need to do so, or at least what most of them need. Kobe/Artest have been going hard for most of this year. A series gives time for adjustments for rest in between for a lot of things to happen other than one game and thats what I’m waiting for before I make my judgment on this team.

by Marty Mart on Apr 10, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

1st off

I never said the Lakers are wrong for charging what they do for Tickets. What i did say is that imo they arent worth what you hafta pay for tickets THIS year…. I dont care about the business side of things and i made no mention of the Lakers lowering ticket prices to satisfy fans like myself who feel they havent been worth paying to watch IMO…Your analysis of the Grizzlies doesnt concern me. I am not a “fan” of the Grizzlies. I dont care if they make it to the playoffs or not but if im gonna pay money to watch a team i want to see them Hustling and playing the game how its supposed to be played rather than sleepwalking and half ass playing which the Lakers are doing quite well at the moment….As far as im concerned they are underachieving period. You can put nuts and chocolate syrup on a pile of shyt but that doesnt make it a sundae. They won a title LAST year which doesnt make them immune to criticism this year and they deserve it…Ive never been so hard and down on a team like i have this Laker team. You dont have to share my views and if you feel like everything is A-OK then thats your prerogative…What positive things you’re rooting for is a mystery to me since i havent seen anything remotely positive about this team since Jan. But hey Buzzer beaters against teams that shouldnt have been close to begin with is a good thing..I mean we didnt lose that’s a positive. lol

As long as Fisher is on the floor, we always have a chance to lose

by EmmCeee on Apr 10, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know about profound..

but this was definitely an entertaining read. You raised some issues/questions I have had with this team all season.

One area I have to disagree with you however is favoring Vujacic over Brown. Not sure how you can say Sasha is “no where near as atrocious offensively as Shannon and he shoots much better from distance.” Shannon is shooting better from the field and from 3 while also matching Sasha in free throw % as well.

IMO, Sasha has been given ample opportunity to be the marksmen on this team but has failed to deliver. Unfortunately, when his shot isn’t falling (which is all the time) he doesn’t bring much else to the table.

by dula14 on Apr 14, 2010 8:17 AM PDT reply actions  

lol..Sasha is either really good or BAD

sorry to say..mostly—-its bad…

" Kobe’s mentality is unparalleled and his love for the game transcends all"
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by Octavious d on Apr 14, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd like to reserve my bashing after the season is over

Unless they win a championship, of course. In that case, I’d be at the parade saying, “told ya so~”

I can't tell if Phil Jackson is playing 3D chess and is 10 moves ahead of us or if he's just goddamn senile...

by Mike1204 on Apr 14, 2010 12:26 PM PDT reply actions  

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