Lakers Dine on Another Slice of FAILcake
What's the opposite of "peaking at the right time"? Whatever it's called, that's what the Lakers are doing. This five-game road trip, when they were supposed to find their swag and sharpen themselves into playoff form, is now over, and it was a straight-up calamity. They lost three of the five games. Two of them - including tonight's brutal 92 to 109 slapdown by the Atlanta Hawks - were embarrassing routs. Monday's loss to the New Orleans Hornets would've fallen into that category as well but for a face-saving fourth quarter rally. I'd propose that the Laker season has hit its low point, but that might be wishful thinking.
Tonight's game was a workshop in how not to play team defense. The Hawks are a good offensive team. Against the Lakers' deplorable D, they looked like an unholy combination of the ‘97 Bulls and the ‘39 Wehrmacht. The Lakers couldn't stay in front of anyone. They didn't switch correctly or fight through screens. They allowed Atlanta to shoot well both inside and out. On the rare occasions when Atlanta missed, the Lakers failed to control rebounds. Responsibility for this comprehensive breakdown falls on every coach and every player who saw the floor.
The warning signs appeared early on tonight. Mike Bibby effortlessly shook free from Derek Fisher to score Atlanta's first seven points. Then the wings got going, with Joe Johnson and Jamal Crawford draining wide-open looks. Then Josh Smith and Zaza Pachulia started pounding the offensive boards and generating second chances. On D the Lakers were just lost, right from the jump. Only a series of difficult Kobe Bryant twos keep them in it, and that's not a sustainable way to run an offense. There was very little ball movement, and no post or outside threats.
By the second quarter the Hawks realized they literally did not need to guard Fish. They left him alone repeatedly to double Pau Gasol and crowd the paint. Pau, for his part, did not handle the double-teams well. He held the ball too long and made some poor passes. Pau's final numbers tonight (16 points on 59% True Shooting, 11 rebounds and 4 assists) aren't awful, but he didn't play well. He got knocked around something fierce by Pachulia and Al Horford. The Lakers needed better work from him, especially on the defensive glass.
In the third quarter, a semi-close game got blown open. The Hawks hit easy jumper after easy jumper. Kobe cooled off. The offense got turnovery. By the time the Lakers started connecting from the outside, mostly courtesy of Jordan Farmar, the game was lost. Not only could their defense not generate enough stops to allow a comeback attempt, but it actually got worse as they game wore on. Even Kobe and Ron Artest played crappy D, giving up easy driving lanes to Crawford and Johnson and letting scrubby Maurice Evans hit for 18.
Andrew Bynum was missed tonight. His size would've helped protect the rim and the defensive glass and absorb some of the punishment directed at Gasol. Also missed was Sasha Vujacic, who got yet another DNP-CD because of his snit with Brian Shaw. Honestly, this is a ridiculous state of affairs. I get that the coaching staff deserves a bit of deference, but can't these guys just talk it out like adults so we can all move on? Is the multiple-game benching really necessary? Sasha didn't pull a gun on someone.
Phil Jackson needs to get this team ready for the playoffs. That means getting Sasha back into the rotation and finding out if he can be a reliable contributor. It's not like the rotation is bursting with great options off the bench, and whenever Fish is on the floor the Lakers are effectively playing 4-on-5. There are more important issues in play than Shaw's hurt feelings.
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a pictorial summary of tonight's game:


"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
by shaqfor3 on Mar 31, 2010 8:08 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
That fail cake looks pretty good lol
or maybe im just hungry
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I'd hit it
Especially with those sprinkles.
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by DexterFishmore on Mar 31, 2010 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions
american pie hit it?
hahahahaha
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rofl i would
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by desecrator09 on Apr 1, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
lol @ failcake
about the brian shaw incident phil jackson says "hasn’t atoned himself for that error."
“Vujacic says he doesn’t know what his coach is talking about.” can we get kobe to translate?
it sounds like the lakers staff wants a apology or maybe nude pics of sharapova
i hope my posts sees the light of day because i already know i will be Smited by brian shaw

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wait...
what exactly happened with Sasha and the Great Brian Shaw??
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
See that Yahoo link above from Czheck
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by DexterFishmore on Mar 31, 2010 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions
my response
hahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha…
that is all
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
Great wrap up. It'll be interesting to see the Lakers respond to this.
Times are definitely getting tough, and thats whats supposed to happen before the playoffs. LOL if the Lakers think it should be easy; getting smacked in the mouth a couple more times might wake them up, or it might break them. We’ll see! Go LA!
they arent gonna wake up bro. This is the 2010 Lakers.
deal with it.
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by desecrator09 on Mar 31, 2010 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions
i got respect for you man
but you always killing my buzz, i know somewhere deep down in your subconscious there are positive thoughts. i know it looks bad and the media has already crowned the cavs champs but they did it last year too.
i def know where you coming from i dont like the style of basketball we are playing i was just watching the champs dvds from 2000-2002 and we use to penetrate the paint so often it made the celtics look like they where playing “who wants to take a jumpshot next”
while i agree that since Christmas we have been playing horribly and even worse as of late.
dont you still believe? is kobe not the best player in the game right now?
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lol, you two are like yin and yang.
except more like super optimist and super pessimist.
Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."
even the timberwolves won tonight
and dallas won. i proclaim today “Fail Day”
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I think the Lakers are the reigning Fail Day champs lol
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The last time someone said the Lakers sucked after a loss
a few people apparently didnt like it…Well The Lakers pulled a “SuperHead” once again tonight…..If nothing else this past road trip has shown that 1. Pau has no business playing center, EVER. He routinely got bullied in the post..From Nenad to Emeka? to Horford and freakin Pachulia they attacked him and pushed him around with no fear of him standing strong and fighting back. and 2..The Derek Fisher situation has gotten so bad that teams leave him to double team and blatantly dont close out on him leaving him open to shoot..He Has become the garbage guy that teams dare to beat em with wide open shots..If everybody else in the league can see it then why cant Phil see it? The Starters are playing 4 on 5 and it has slowly killed our offense and defense. Something has got to be done in the neighborhood of what Luke Walton did in favor of Ariza starting. Fish needs to sit himself down and let Farmar start. At least then then teams will actually have to guard everyone on the court. Go through the growing pains now and be ready to go come playoff time. and 3. WTF is Phil doing over there on the bench? He benches our best shooter and defender off the bench because he gets into a argument with Brian Shaw? He continues to throw Fisher out there when its obvious he’s about as productive as well Brian Shaw was when he played with the Lakers….Has he gotten senile with old age or is he secretly paving the way for him to leave in the offseason? idk but he has better get control of this team minus all the zen bs and jedi mind tricks, because it looks like they dont work on this laker squad anymore…..Ive already resigned myself to the fact that this is probably what we’re gonna see for the rest of the regular season lol Who knows what will happen in the playoffs?
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i hope for your sake that brian shaw doesnt smite you
agreed on everything you said except fisher. until fisher stops wearing a laker uniform i cant say anything bad about him. at this point i would take anybody over Mbenga,ammo,and even Sasha. i wish we had demare carrol or somebody with a pulse. maybe next year we can sign some basketball players but i doubt it given the excellent job mitch did in free agency this year
most teams have players that can score or contribute on there bench all we have is a

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Dont get me wrong I like Fisher, he seems like a really good guy
but i really cant stand Fisher 2010……Brian Shaw needs to do what he does best at this point. Hold Phil’s clipboard and dry erase marker lol
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yup i def know where your coming from
i saw the .4 shot live and i think after he came back to the lakers in 08 when he didnt have too,just ment alot to me.
dude is having a horrible year but i still think he can turn it around. i see life threw purple and gold glasses
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Ima play the super-optimist role
and look at it like this….Last regular season Fish was hitting shots from both 2 and 3 pt range at a pretty nice clip. He shot horribly as a whole in the playoffs and this regular season so going by that trend he is due to start back shooting at a nice clip in this years playoffs…..entirely possible
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bright side of life homie bright side of life

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i hope people remember this movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1loyjm4SOa0
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Least you didn't put the "dong shot" up
For me its the consistent inconsistency that concerns me - PAGFL
Ermm, although it would have been fitting for tonight
Sorry for double post :P
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i tried to put the most pg picture i could
what the lakers need is to watch pelham 123 again last time the lakers watched that as a team we won a championship!
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Pelham123 was a good movie tho
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am i wrong for having never seen that movie ? lol
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its a classic
therefore its old,doesnt get shown on tv alot if at all. monty python movie.
now if you would have said shawshank redemption that would have been a different story
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i sure as hell hope so...this is by far his worst year
Really do you think he should retire at the end of this season? Certainly might need to be at least considered
by Octavious d on Mar 31, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Fisher will only retire if he wins a ring
other wise he has threatened to come back! i know dex is gonna have nightmares
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Well not much more to add
Except that while watching the team this year, you can see the frustration on their faces, in their demeanor on the court, and while they’re on the court.
I saw several times where a Hawk would roll in for an easy score and the Lakers would kinda look at one another and point, or shake their head, etc.
The beginning of the season we were looking pretty sharp, and then the injuries started. I really think that the injuries have made it impossible for anybody to get their rhythm, Phil is still working on rotations and is playing with lineups. It’s sooo late for that.
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yeah
Having people in a set rotation makes it easier on the team as a whole…When Bynum got hurt i thought we should have just started Mbenga and continue to bring Odom off the bench just to keep That particular rotation intact. It would have kept Pau playing PF and Odom would have still played starter minutes…Looking back it wouldnt have worked because they would then be playing 5 on 3 with no contributions from Fish or Mbenga…damned if you do damned if you dont…When is Luke gonna be back?
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your right
it reminds me of the series vs rockets last year when we where just playing horrible…but then there was game 5 and 7 where we showed them what failure really tastes like
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did you know
that the lakers have lost to 14 out of of the other 15 playoff teams. Milwuake is the only playoff team we havent lost to..and that was because of a kobe fade away buzzer beater in overtime.
We've also beat some of them
Soooo… in a series we should be okay. Right?
Anybody?
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we where just letting them beat us
so they would be shocked when they found out they cant beat us later…..
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by Czheck on Mar 31, 2010 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
recvd
Hey Czheck did you see the video of that Laker fan earlier who said he played bball from time to time? Wasn’t you who posted a pic of a wrestler?
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by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Mar 31, 2010 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions
yup that was me
i find many aspects of life entertaining,the lakers recent play not so much
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man! I never laughed so hard when I saw that video.
I was going to start joking around but I realized it really was him so I didn’t say anything cause I didn’t want to offend him. But that was so funny. I cracked up even more when you posted that pic.. you got your google images skills down packed..
I still got my hopes for the Lakers until they get dethroned..
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by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Mar 31, 2010 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
i still think kobe is going to win it all by himself
all this fail around him, just wait till he puts on what i call “the face” his jedi partner luke walton comes back,and mr teddy bear bynum we are going to dominate,maybe
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I like how you included that subtle "maybe"

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by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Mar 31, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
if you want to laugh
you should see me play basketball and my UGLY shot i have the machine mindset camp,catch,shoot
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jus call me X Pac!
C’mon now. Your PAGFL. You got the most heart of probably anyone on here at SSR. Hell. I’m hyped to even type your acronym. I wouldnt be offended by jokes about my appearance or my negligible basketball ability while playing in a “D” division City basketball league… Hell, If you cant laugh at yourself, who can you laugh at?
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by Captain $hugg on Apr 1, 2010 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions
i liked the video
i wish more people would leave there house and play basketball,i couldnt have made most of the shots you made,playing basketball on ps3 is one thing,going out and giving it your all against real people is another.
next time your driving make sure you yell “GET OUTTA MY WAY SATURN” if that doesnt work nothing will.
Love of the game is in all of us
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wow
thnx for saying that. That is awesome. You might not know PSlakerfan but your attitude reminds me of him. trust me it wasn’t your appearance that I lauged at. by the way playing any type of basketball at any level is admirable. I’m fat (5’5 220lbs) so I would never laugh at anyone’s appearance. Either way, you have a great attitude and I like that… much respects.
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by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 1, 2010 6:12 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't want to rant but
I taped the game and seen the 4th qtr just now. I can understand the things like injuries and Fish’s shooting slump (which has lasted 2 years now) but one thing that can be controlled is rotations. Is Phil losing it? Does he have a soft spot for old faithful in fisher? Don’t mean to question a 10 time champion coach but wtf is he doing with Farmar and not playing him enough. Fine! I get him not starting Farmar but why not do the same that he does with Bynum and Odom… Bynum Started last year but LO ate up double the playing time. C’mon! Phil.
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by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Mar 31, 2010 9:46 PM PDT reply actions
good point
beating a dead horse with this next statement but phil loves his vets and does not respect players until there 28. i saw that somewhere and it comes to my mind everytime some one mentions the PG situation.
i think we would have to be eliminated from the playoffs before phil would change his ways
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YOu said what I can't even fathom..
i think we would have to be eliminated from the playoffs before phil would change his ways
Honestly I don’t even want to think that cause I think that if I do I’ll jinx the team.. : ) I know I’m a crazy fan.
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by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Mar 31, 2010 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions
reverse jinx
it always works. sadly i can imagine the lakers getting eliminated in the first round
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Phil is like Hannibal Smith
His plans always seem to come together in the end….Fish in the playoffs last year sucked and who hit the big 3’s in the Orlando game lol Who woulda thunk it?
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It's ok to rant lol
If you peruse the game thread you would see us go from WTF!! to oh F**K it and chuckle at how inept the Lakers look as a team right now lol
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it has gotten that bad...or funny depending on how you look at it
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Brian shaw jokes=funny
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lol yes I do see you guys go off like that...
that is funny. What good does it to complain..pHil is going to do what the hell he feels like.
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by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Mar 31, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I used to think that the lakers would be better team if they put more effort
However, the lakers were seriously trying for most of the last two games and it has just been awful. Maybe this team is like the drunken master and lackadaisical play is their alcohol.
Is that you Dacos?
ok
so can we get 60 wins? or should i ask a different question: can we beat our 2008 record of 57-25?
we do have the Kings and T wolves coming up and Utah at home where the Lakers are scary
57 is likely 60 would be a surprise and a good one at that
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ALSO did you know
that when kobe was interviewed on christmas day 2008, they asked him when he wanted to pass the torch over to Lebron. His answer: i just want to win 1 more championship. AND HE DID
modest answer
hopefully that doesnt pan out
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If there is one thing that will kill me is if Shaq wins another ring
I am seriously tired of hearing the Shaq Kobe thing and the questions Kobe will get about him being more motivated if Shaq has more rings than he does….will Shaq ever be out of our lives for good?
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by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 1, 2010 6:15 AM PDT up reply actions
pleezzeee!!!..i couldn't take that...
and believe me Shaq will find MANY MANY ways to rub it in…as he always does..We all knw he is a BIG BABY
BREAKING NEWS
Arash Markazi has figured out that the Lakers don’t have a deep bench.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=5046191&type=story
Keep up the good work, ESPN Los Angeles.
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by DexterFishmore on Mar 31, 2010 10:25 PM PDT reply actions
This is seriously an amazing article
At some point in time, someone somewhere decided to label the Lakers as a “deep team.” Over the past two years you’ve heard how good the Lakers’ roster is from 1 to 12 and how their bench is able to sustain leads and how everyone on this team knows their roles.
[spits coffee all over monitor] Dude, I haven’t heard that since spring of 2008. Who the hell is this guy hanging out with? Who on earth still claims that the bench is “able to sustain leads”? Was this article written 16 months ago?
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by DexterFishmore on Mar 31, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
my fav quote of that article is from PJ
“It makes me want to throw up sometimes,” he said. “It just doesn’t make any sense. [The Hornets] played three guys off the bench, they had success. We have kind of sculpted out what the bench does, and they fulfilled our prophecy, our worst fears. It’s an area where we really have been emphasizing coming out and playing a little better.”
im sorry Ten Master but you shouldnt have trusted them in the first place they are stealing money from basketball
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rofl that wiped the frown off me for a good while
thanks man
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by desecrator09 on Apr 1, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
He also calls the bench "statistically average"
If only they were! The bench would have to improve 8,000% to get to average.
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by DexterFishmore on Mar 31, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Dex to the rescue!
LMFAO o god the part about 16 months ago was great toooooo
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If our bench was "statistically average"
We’d have a shot to eclipse 70 wins.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
statistically average??
wtf is this guy smoking??
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
Another Perfect Shooting Night for AMMO
While Sasha is benched, AMMO has been getting some minutes, and he hasn’t missed a shot in his last two games. Three for three from the field, and two for two from the line. Clearly he’s starting to play again like a #3 overall draft pick. Up his minutes, and all our troubles will be over. Is it April first yet?
by celticandlakerfanreally on Mar 31, 2010 10:28 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
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Czheck, we’ve got another Ammo fan in the house.
For me its the consistent inconsistency that concerns me - PAGFL
Ammo nation is growing
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Looks like these Lakers are having their FAILcake ...
And eating it too. YEAAAAAAAAAAHHH!
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Dude, you have to start posting these in video
With the shades and the music.
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by DexterFishmore on Mar 31, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
wow
seriously am i reading that screen name right? lol A laker and Celtic fan really? how is that possible? lol
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i believe him
i also believed ariza when he said he wasnt going to leave
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lakers and celtics
grup in LA, lived in Boston for 20 years. Only believed the stars are aligned when the Lakers play the Celtics in the finals—and beat them. But I have to root for the Celts to get there. I just Kobe will get another chance to beat them and fulfill his true destiny as a Laker.
by celticandlakerfanreally on Mar 31, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
wow
not the most crazy thing ive ever heard but thats like a white sox fan who likes the cubs. bitter bitter rivalry.
props to you though.
first we have to get to the finals but if we get there these are the potential matchups i want to see: Lakers vs Magic, Lakers Vs Celtics, Lakers Vs Hawks, and if we have to i guess Lakers vs Cavs
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say it aint so..i just cant buy that 1..too much blood sweat and tears to be BOTH come on now
by Octavious d on Mar 31, 2010 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
if timbo
can be a laker and a blazer fan i think its possible. maybe he just reps championship caliber teams
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its possible
i have a lot of respect for the spurs and I could see myself becoming a fan if i was in environment were i had to watch them
Is that you Dacos?
two decades of nothingness
the good news for me was that in those entire 20 years i spent in beantown the lakers and celts never played a meaningful game. As soon as I left town they met in the finals again, with the wrong result. Amazing that a franchise like the Celtics was basically useless for that long. So many disasters—Pitino, Bias, Lewis…
by celticandlakerfanreally on Mar 31, 2010 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I TRULY BELIEVE
Alot of People dont knw how HARD it really is to stay on top as a winning franchise..trust me the Lakers have spoiled us a bit…i dont know how i would deal with the Lakers not making the playoffs for a long period of time…say like humm Clips maybe..that would KILL Me
by Octavious d on Mar 31, 2010 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I grew up in LA and am a huge Laker fan, but....
moved to Utah for college in 2002 and have not moved back to Cali. I find myself rooting for the Jazz when they arent playing the Lakers. I see them all the time on tv, so it almost becomes second nature to root for them a little.
People here in Utah, think im crazy when i say i like both teams. Just because Utah fans hate the Lakers as much as the hate the Bulls.
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all that Jazz
I started to watch the Jazz a few years ago and I was legitimately scared as I saw them to be the biggest threat to the Lakers in the Western Confrence but we got past them.
They kind of fell off a bit and then this year, I happened to catch the Sundiata Gaines cinderella story buzzer beater game randomly one night on TV and it brought me back as a psuedo fan. I’d rather root for them than most teams in the league too.
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by Captain $hugg on Apr 1, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Kobe
I know he is aging but prefer him taking shots anyway.He hasn’t topped 21 shot mark for 7-8 games,all because media hate against him.Why is he taking so many shots,blah blah.
game 7 against the suns
he stoped takin shots in the 2nd half and we lost, i still blame the media.
God gave us kobe so he could shoot so let him do it
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i hope he keeps it up.
so they can start asking if he’s not shooting enough
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by Madz on Mar 31, 2010 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1 and a championship banner
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WE'RE STILL THE CHAMPS
I will still be saying this in June, even if the Lakers aren’t playing, and I will keep saying it until someone else wins the title.
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Champions of the world
till we get knocked off. nobodys takin our belt unless we give it to them.
the only scary thing about the we are still the champs saying is thats what boston,the spurs,and pistons fan bases said.
but the thing those teams didnt have was kobe or phil jackson.
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champs of the NBA
its fuckin stupid when ppl say you are the World champs in the nba.
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by desecrator09 on Apr 1, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
thats why the best players from the world
come here to play
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u two need to have a boxing match!
you guys are always going back and forth, lol.
In the purple corner we have Czheck, the super optimist…….. and
In the gold corner we have dececrator09, the super pessimist………..
"I work my ass off every day in practice. How many other guys can say the same thing? Not many. I'm fighting against becoming soft. That's the worse thing you can say to a basketball player." - Dennis Rodman
Fuming Kobe wants Lakers in study hall
http://www.ocregister.com/sports/study-242074-atlanta-wants.html
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detention might be better
have them just write ofense and defense on paper 5000x’s each
by Octavious d on Mar 31, 2010 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions
great article
if kobes not worried i dont think we should be.
Real talk: Jackson actually tried to get the team’s leaders Tuesday to remember: "You have the dominance." Jackson hasn’t liked how often the team has resorted to 3-point shots to try and hurry to the end of victories instead of earning them moment by moment, which is how they’ll need to do it come postseason. If the Lakers just focusing on controlled, interior play, the opponent will "crumble," Jackson said.
The Facts: 13-8 since the All-Star break (and at least 4 of those victorys we shouldnt even be proud of)
go lakers regardless
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Buss
i expect something amazing to happen in the offseason if lakers dont reach finals or win a Ship… i am sensing Wade to come to LA… idk how that will work in the lineup… wade playing as a PG would be the most obvious choice… while we lose farmar, sasha, powell, ammo and throw in a taco… fisher can come off the bench along with Odom… and get some decent shooters for bench and LA will be locked for a back to back
not happening
we are over the cap,only way its even possible if d wade takes a 1 yr 5.85 MLE offer like artest did,this isnt baseball you cant just buy a championship.
but hey dwade if you want to come win a championship not a 2006* style championship but a real one come holler at us im sure you can sleep at kobes house for the season LMFAO
if only!
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We can talk about the offseason
But let’s not put out ridiculous scenarios. Wade wouldn’t be a good fit at PG in any case.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
As unrealistic as all of that sounded
You really went overboard by saying Fish could come off the bench….
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Brian Shaw was at a raiders game in 2001 and got bad nachos
we all know what happend next

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Brian Shaw was at the ALCS game #4 between the Yankees and Red Sox in 2004.
Some Yankee fan spilt a beer on him in the middle of the 9th inning, and didnt apologize. After the yankees won the first 3 games of the series, and were only 3 outs away from an ALCS title………. well, you should know what happens next.

"I work my ass off every day in practice. How many other guys can say the same thing? Not many. I'm fighting against becoming soft. That's the worse thing you can say to a basketball player." - Dennis Rodman
Dont forget that Brian Shaw was also at Superbowl 34
During a timeout before the final play of the game with the Titans a few yards away from a tie game, a rabid Titans fan accidentally knocked over his king size jalapeno nachos hat…and well you should know what happens next.

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
Brian Shaw was also at Game 4 of the WCF in 2002 between the Lakers and the Kings....
Of course he was at the game, he was sitting on the Lakers bench. Some drunk Kings fan was yelling at him all night. Telling him how old and washed up he was. Shaw was so pissed he had to counter the fan in his own way. As the Horry went in the game in the final minute, Shaw gave him a little pad on the putt and said “now is your time, stand at the top arc and wait…….” Horry looked puzzled, but listened to Shaw and did exactly what he said. We all know what happened next.

"I work my ass off every day in practice. How many other guys can say the same thing? Not many. I'm fighting against becoming soft. That's the worse thing you can say to a basketball player." - Dennis Rodman
brian shaw was in dallas for game 2 of the 2006 finals
and all of a sudden dirk crashed into brian shaws best friend who was trying to hook up with the ladies on the left. his friend didnt get any numbers,so brian shaw called david stern and forced the rest of the finals to be fixed

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Brian Shaw was at the US figure skating championships in January of 1994.
Shaw was being harrased by Nancy Kerrigan’s boyfriend, at the time, for an autograph. It was so bad, Brian decided to get up and leave. On his way out he bumped into a man heading to the locker rooms. After the collision, the man looked confused. Almost posessed, the man went to a nearby tool box, pulled out a crowbar and well…. you know the rest.

"I work my ass off every day in practice. How many other guys can say the same thing? Not many. I'm fighting against becoming soft. That's the worse thing you can say to a basketball player." - Dennis Rodman
1982 Berkeley California
A young Brian Shaw was in band and had he not put a wicked block on a Standford player this moment would have never happend

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Play
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dude
we should make “the legend of Brian Shaw” fanpost and post this stuff…I’ll set it up aight?
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
I like it
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by DexterFishmore on Apr 1, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
def im down
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by DexterFishmore on Apr 1, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
+ INFINITY
"I work my ass off every day in practice. How many other guys can say the same thing? Not many. I'm fighting against becoming soft. That's the worse thing you can say to a basketball player." - Dennis Rodman
Well, expect more games like this
Jackson said he recently began conversations with his veteran players, namely Bryant and Gasol, about how much they should play in the final games of the regular season when the Lakers figure to be mathematically locked into their playoff spot. But you know the Lakers will want to be integrating Bynum back into the lineup then.
http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/04/01/andrew-bynum-very-very-important-to-lakers-hopes/
That said, I’d welcome this if only to get Farmar, Brown, and Vujacic more consistent burn, which is the only way they can possibly 1) learn to effectively play with one another 2) figure out how to operate the offense in non-garbage time. Also, I can’t shake the suspicion that our starters are increasingly gassed as of the moment. It doesn’t excuse their recent play, but it has taken a toll.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
You know, I’m not sure how many games there’ll actually be when we’re mathematically locked into a playoff spot. Not if we care about HCA over Orlando.
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by DexterFishmore on Apr 1, 2010 1:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I cant remember where i read it
but it had something to do with the Lakers not being worried about not having HC over the Magic
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If Bynum was ready to come back when he sits
Kobe and the Big softee it would actually be a good thing…He can be the focus of the offense get as much burn as he can handle and be ready to get to work in the playoffs.
L.A.----Where playing Like the Sparks is tolerated by a Hall of Fame coach.....
Sup guys, new to SS&R. I think the problems recently are due to Lamar being inserted into the starting 5, which then makes our bench even worse(if possible). Once Drew comes back, and Lamar goes back to his 6th man position, it will really improve the play. Oh and teams are NOT covering Fish at all, i mean they leave him COMPLETELY open, and he still misses…..
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by Kalifornia-Dreamin on Apr 1, 2010 2:43 AM PDT reply actions
Oh man!
Welcome. dam it! You picked the pic for your screen name that I wanted.. boooo! : ) j/k.
Fish is wide open all the time. Welcome to the club as far as being frustrated by Fishers lack of production.
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by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 1, 2010 6:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Guys to tell the truth i'm lost for words to describe how I feel right not seeing this team
go through this deplorable spell. I want to rant but if I do I might get kicked off SS&R (I already got warned once and was told a 2nd would be goodbye).
I have a sick feeling inside, I’m full of hatred because it seems I’m the only one who watches the news and sees the blatant love for L-east coast teams who have been anointed as champs. DON’T THE LAKERS SEE THESE NEWS ITEMS AND WANT TO SHUT THESE MEDIA GUYS UP?
I was so hurt after last night I considered calling in sick to work, however I stumbled on a post over on yahoo and it cheered me up. I’m going to copy and past it.
It was written by SD Truth (God bless him).
“Do you people really think that of the Lakers? “One and done”? These are baseless points. No one can honestly think any NBA team out there can beat the Lakers 4 out of 7 times. This group has the best basketball sense of any team. The Cavs may have a better record but they play sorry East teams all day long. So you whacked the Nets 4 times this year then the Wizards another 4 times. So what? They had a better record last season and didn’t make the Finals. The Magic is a better team so what makes the Cavs think they can make it this year? All you haters go fishing with the Cavs in May and come back in June for another parade in LA."
After reading this I realize the Cavs may have the better record but they played New Jersey and Washington 8 TIMES!!!. Folks that’s 8 guaranteed wins right there.
My point is despite the hurt right now, the Lakers will be ok come playoffs. (if not I’m going to stop watching basketball because I wont be able to stomach the Lebron love that will be on show if Cavs win.
Wow! I can always admire someone who puts themselves out like that..
I was so hurt after last night I considered calling in sick to work, however I stumbled on a post over on yahoo and it cheered me up. I’m going to copy and past it.
In terms of being upset, I think there are a lot of us who are upset and are doubting the Lakers. I don’t intend to change your mind about how you feel. We all experience beings fans in different ways. If you were to see the games with me you would see that I’m just as passionate. One thing that I feel this team deserves is a bit more faith from it’s fan base. If they would have lost all five road games I would still believe. Not to be corny but this team has won a title and the least we can do as fans is to give them the benefit of the doubt. They have earned that. It is fans with your passion that I think are the most important because you love this team so much. But I can bet you one thing kobe has not given up on this team. So until I see another team raising that trophy that is when I will express how pissed I am. Until then we will just see..
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by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 1, 2010 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes sir that's me in a nutshell I get emotional over my Lakers.
if you think i’m emotional now you should have seen me in my college years (2000-04). This was during the Shaq/Kobe era. I got so worked up with hatred over teams like Portland, Sacramento, San Antonio and Detroit.
I’m in my late 20’s now and I’ve matured a bit as I’m learning to take everything in stride as I look at the big picture and not silly stuff as regular season awards and best record overall.
BUT I do get worked up every now and again by the extreme biased reporting by the media especially ESPN and what I deem to be a blatant attempt to crown Lebron James the greatest fucking think since air.
I feel this is a great disrespect to guys like KB24, Tim Duncan, KG, Shaq, Iverson, and Dirk who have shed blood sweat and tears to put this league where it is right now only for the ‘keys’ be handed to some upstart straight outta high school.
I don’t know if I hate Lebron James but I do know that I hate everything he stands for or represents right now.
I can only pray that the Lakers have a strong team that can continue to contend after the sad but inevitable day that Kobe retires because if not I will stop watching basketball until after LBJ has stopped playing the game.
by wayde_316 on Apr 1, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The only thing that will actually ruin my trust in a team
is when they cannot trust one another. If there is a lot of infighting, and they do not gel on the court, I lose trust. This is not happening. The core unit is close, very close. Kobe believes in the guys, and the guys believe in him.
The fringe unit is the problem. I have a problem with Sasha. I have a problem with Farmar if he doesn’t believe in the system and rotations. I’d like to see the team congratulating one another and working hard, even if they are not getting the minutes they personally want.
I think the Lakers will be fine, and like my first post says, I am excited to see their response to this adversity.
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one of the funniest things I have read on SSR
recvd for awesome humor and creativity…
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by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 1, 2010 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions
54-21: Stop sweating everyone, you don't want to get wet
Did a lot of research, the squad from ‘88 lost 6 games in March, went on to win the title, the squad in 2001 lost 6+ games in March, went on to win the title, the squad from last year! last year mates, lost 6 games in March and won the title. Not saying this squad will do what the other squads have, just saying March isn’t for fine tuning things. That’s why The LakeShow usually comes back around in April. Just saying.
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by GRICE on Apr 1, 2010 9:09 AM PDT reply actions
I'm with you...
btw.. not sure if you noticed my post from a past thread but I saw the Glenn Rice Jr. youtube tape…craaazy! that guys if he keeps improving will be a beast.
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by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 1, 2010 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I saw it, thxs for the post, I agree, he just needs a little push in the right direction
Plus he wears #41, just like his old man.
by GRICE on Apr 1, 2010 9:17 AM PDT reply actions
well he's already got the talent..that is obvious.
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by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 1, 2010 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I used to give Sasha Vujacic the benefit of the doubt...Insubordination is not to be tolerated
I like Brian a lot as an assistant, I have tried to see that Vujacic has a beautiful shot when it’s working, he gives effort [most of the time]. I have a problem with a player who thinks he can point his finger at a coach,cause friction and act like there’s nothing wrong.
That guy is his own worst enemy.
Luke’s coming back. So, the rotation in the playoffs will be Lamar, Jordan, Shannon and Luke, right [no Vujacic]. Any thoughts on the matter?
by GRICE on Apr 1, 2010 9:34 AM PDT reply actions
Humm
Do you think the Machine is so broken that he should be completely out of the roatation in the playoffs?
True to a certain extent
But lets be real…It’s Brian Shaw he’s the equivalent of a grad assistant on a college team….He didnt do it to Phil and quite honestly considering they were getting their azz Kicked by OKC at the time it should be considered a flare up and let it go especially if they have no history of problems..We are gonna need Sasha..he shoots better than both Brown and Farmar plus plays better d…Phil needs to get over whatever it is he has against Sasha and get that kid some burn
L.A.----Where playing Like the Sparks is tolerated by a Hall of Fame coach.....
plus he was playing good ball before his benching
L.A.----Where playing Like the Sparks is tolerated by a Hall of Fame coach.....
Coaches descion is one thing..1 game
BUT damn..is he in prison..are they gonna use him again…is it that serious…what the hell give him a shot at some minutes..sure as hell can’t hurt us at this point..i mean REALLY..better to mk him some type of an asset to the team..instead of just letting him sit and watch a blow out..DAMN !!
Like Bball guys in all areas of work, if you mess up, you have to take the consequences
What makes this worse is Sasha thinks he did nothing wrong. Bad attitude, as a coach you can’t look at your players the same again if you put them above your coaching staff. Phil’s spent more time with Shaw than w/Sasha. He just wants Sasha to admit he was wrong. Why? He was.
by GRICE on Apr 1, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
It can hurt.
If someone as insignificant as Sasha can tell off the staff, make snide comments about Phil and his coaching methods without consequence, what will that give other players that are on the cusp of being important license to do. Case in point: Bynum. If he does not see that the coaching staff has the team under control, then why should he buy into the idea of playing hard defense and not worrying about his touches on offense. You see, it is a team thing, and the team must respect their coach and the coaches staff, and the entire staff’s vision for the offense.
Its his comments after the fact that are the problem.
Lamar Odom can take tough love. He gets it so bad its visible to the naked eye on TV. Sasha Vujacic has something wrong inside. He needs the fortitude to keep his mouth shut and let his play do just a bit more talking.
I think he should tell Bshaw that it's on him [his fault], stop sulking and just start playing
I don’t hate on Sasha [or anybody]. I’ll take a guy who wants to play [Adam Morrison] then a sulker.
They are Phil’s assistants, you can’t think of telling a coach you know better than he does. Sasha thought he was bigger than the team, that’s the problem. There are plenty of guys who’ll go out and play for the Lakers if asked, Sasha doesn’t have to play, especially if he refuses to listen.
by GRICE on Apr 1, 2010 9:48 AM PDT reply actions
yea..cant argue wit that sir
refusing to listen..is not acceptable..its gotta be some balance AND just maybe Sasha could have handled it differently to get his point across..not sure..
That's the whole thing
We dont know what was said or what it was about…Hard to make a decision based on seeing them yelling at each other….What if it had been Kobe? Fair to say he wouldnt have gotten the same treatment…Im not sure what it is about Sasha but Phil has always been extra tough on him, yet Bad Shot Brown does the same things Sasha used to do with nowhere near as good of a shot or defense and he continues to play him and doesnt yank him the 1st time he does something wrong
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If it was Kobe...
My man, you cannot compare the two.
Kobe sacrifices for the team, Kobe practices and Kobe delivers. Kobe wants his teammates involved, Kobe wants the team to succeed and Kobe knows he is imperfect.
You cannot say the same for Sasha. You cannot say that Sasha delivers. He hasn’t proven himself. Kobe went through the fire when Phil labeled him uncoachable, when the whole world would have nothing to do with him, and when his team endured year after year of terrible performances with only him competing.
Sasha has done none of this, has paid no real debt, and is, in fact, in debt to Kobe for being able to be on a championship team. Deal with the occasional assistant coach hollering at you; then enjoy your teams success.
All that is true but yelling at a coach is yelling at a coach
It is wrong regardless of who is the one doing it…I just have an issue with it because it is Brian Shaw, probably the least important guy on the staff imo. I dont know that for sure it’s pure speculation lol Had it been Kobe he wouldnt have been made to sit out a game because he is a star player and Phil rightfully caters to his stars..Same thing when Pippen pulled his “im not goin in the game cuz i cant take the last shot nonsense” Thas how he operates and it obviously works but enough is enoug. We’re heading towards the playoffs and we need to find out who can help us right the ship now..Compared to the other guys on the bench he has a good of chance as any plus he’s been there and was a major part of the 08 run..What is going on right now isnt workin and they’re running out of time lol
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Like I said Sasha's a good player who should play, then again, there are things you just can't do.
Live and let die. That’s what I say, life’s too short for bs.
by GRICE on Apr 1, 2010 9:57 AM PDT reply actions
Lots of comments about Phil
If there are so many people questioning Phil’s tactics, I’d say that’s a good thing, because that probably means he’s up to something. How many championships do you have and how many does he have?
Just wait… just wait.
Magic made me a Laker fan.
lol @ How many championships do you have and how many does he have?
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