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Lakers go to work to get much needed win over the Suns

It wasn't easy, and it wasn't pretty, but the Lakers just got a victory against a good team on their home floor.  Considering the depths to which the Lakers have sunk in the past couple weeks, no road victory should be looked down upon.  The Phoenix Suns came in boasting impressive form, but some strong defense, combined with bouts of decent offensive execution, were enough for the Lakers to build big leads twice, and hold on to the W, 102-96.

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This was one strange game.  I didn't know it was possible for games involving the Suns, but this was an ugly game, in which both teams showed a surprising level of toughness.  I don't think either team could look at this game and think they played well.  The Lakers made plenty of mistakes that might normally have cost them a victory.  They once again shot abysmally from the free throw line, 13-22 for 59%, and it was once again Pau Gasol leading the way going 1-5  from the stripe.  There were sequences when the Lakers were clearly getting out-hustled and out-worked (At one point, Pau couldn't be bothered to jump in order to stop a Phoenix lob to Louis Admundsen, and Kobe missed out on a rebound because he decided to wait until it bounced to pick it up).  They gave up 14 offensive rebounds to the Suns, despite Phoenix playing without it's starting Center.  And once again, we saw the Lakers offense look about as comfortable attacking a zone defense as a family dinner at the Woods residence.  But, (obviously since this was, in fact, a victory) there were plenty of positives too. 

The Lakers held the Suns to 15 points in the 2nd quarter, and 23 in the 4th.  To hold an offensive juggernaut like Phoenix under 100 points at home is quite the defensive feat.  The Lakers also shot the ball decently for the first time since playing the Pacers, right at 50% for the game, with 36% from 3 point range (and yes, sadly, that's a major improvement).

Kobe Bryant nearly had a quadruple double, which would be amazing if it weren't for the fact that the 4th category was turnovers.  21 points (on 16 shots), 10 rebounds and 8 assists to go with 7 turnovers.  I said at one point during the game that, besides his decent shooting, this was one of the worst games I've ever seen Kobe play.  In the end, that judgment proved to be a bit harsh, but Kobe's carelessness with the ball was a major issue, especially in the 2nd quarter when Bryant turned it over on 3 straight possessions, with a 4th just two minutes later.  On a night when everybody else seemed to be pretty locked in, it was surprising that most of the Lakers' needless mistakes came from their fearless leader.

On a much brighter note, tonight saw the return of Pau Gasol, efficient offensive weapon.  Pau was hitting all the shots that make him an impossible cover.  15 footers (the non-free throw kind), 10 foot fade aways, 5 foot hooks with either hand, it was all there for Gasol, en route to 15 points.  Andrew Bynum also took advantage of the Suns lack of a front line with 18 points on 8-12 shooting.  Combined, they provided the type of two pronged inside attack that we've been accustomed to.

In the end though, this was a victory that could easily have gone the other way.  The Lakers played with fire, launching more threes than Phoenix did, despite their recent struggles with perimeter shooting.  The Lakers were probably lucky that Phoenix shot only 29% from 3 pt range.  There were also some favorable calls for the Lakers down the stretch, though the officiating was by no means favorable to the Lakers overall for the game.  And the Lakers were given a huge gift when Alvin Gentry decided to blow his top over a non-flagrant foul call for a play in which Pau Gasol went in hard on Louis Admundsen.  Gentry picked up two technical fouls instantly, and while his dismissal from the game probably had little to do with the overall result, those two free points helped push the lead to 10 points with 5 minutes to play, and without those two points, the Lakers could much more easily have been caught.  No matter how justified Gentry feels his rage to be, he's got to be kicking himself for not keeping it under control at such a pivotal junction.

In the end, there were plenty of things not to like, but holding the Phoenix Suns to 1.02 points per posession on their home floor has to rank up there as an impressive feat.  Perhaps this can be the game that gets the Lakers going on the right track. 

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TO%

FTA/FGA

FT%

3FGA/FGA

2PT%

3PT%

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DRR

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Lakers

94

15

0.27

59

0.31

55

36

55

56

29

70

1.09

Suns

94

13

0.34

82

0.26

47

29

46

52

30

71

1.02

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A road victory

especially, over a good home team like Phoenix, is something to pleased about. Pau’s looking better finally, but he’s got to clean up some parts of his game as you mentioned, specifically his free throws. How about a little extra work in practice from the stripe, just a little? For a pro, these really should be automatic, muscle memory type shots. If he’s missing, he’s thinking about something, and that’s not good in a big game situation.

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by thestuff01 on Mar 12, 2010 10:18 PM PST reply actions  

Pau's a good ft shooter

he was at like 80% for the first half of the season which is magical for a 7’

I think it’s just a slump to be honest with you. Either way I’m sure he’s done his fair share of practicing them. Pau should focus on the aspects of his game that really need to change such as finishing hard at the rim.

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.

by Justin N. on Mar 12, 2010 10:40 PM PST up reply actions  

And once again, we saw the Lakers offense look about as comfortable attacking a zone defense as a family dinner at the Woods residence.

true true true…luckily we decided to go into the paint towards the end of the 1st half/ start of the 3rd quarter…

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Mar 12, 2010 10:21 PM PST reply actions  

nice recap

my fav part of the game was the ejection stay classy my friends stay classy

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by Czheck on Mar 12, 2010 10:24 PM PST reply actions  

Man, Gentry really went apeshit

That was a Lou Piniella-quality outburst.

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by DexterFishmore on Mar 12, 2010 10:48 PM PST reply actions  

yeah fun to watch

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by Justin N. on Mar 12, 2010 10:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think I've seen an NBA coach do that since Chuck Daly.

Really, Chuck used to go off back in the day, but I can’t remember seeing an NBA coach that pissed off in forever.

by 99bc99 on Mar 12, 2010 11:08 PM PST up reply actions  

ive seen phil jackson get that mad many times

he didnt have to be restrained though lol

phil loves to scream and shout and pace like we all do and honestly i think when he badgers the refs it works the best out of any coachs the best part being ive seen refs hold there whistles for ten mins after getting pj upset.

i havent seen it this year but phil use to get on odom so bad lol he would take timeouts just to harass odom and i would never see odom get mad or frustrated it was pretty big of him

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by Czheck on Mar 12, 2010 11:48 PM PST up reply actions  

and i knew a laker dynasty had started when this happend

phil jackson tells mike dantoni to sit down. i think we where up 30 in phx at the time with no gasol

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by Czheck on Mar 12, 2010 11:52 PM PST up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-p_PudYj38&feature=

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by Czheck on Mar 12, 2010 11:52 PM PST up reply actions  

What were they so mad about?

I kinda remember that game but I didn’t understand what happened.

Magic made me a Laker fan.

by thestuff01 on Mar 13, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

the suns where mad that they where no longer good

and phil wanted to run the score up to 40. the suns narrowly escaped getting beat by only kobe in 2006 and then they got us in 07.

it was a huge statement game we had the same bad roster and we where still lighting them up at there crib

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by Czheck on Mar 13, 2010 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

ROFLMAO

HOW HAVE I NOT SEEN THAT BEFORE!?!?!?!?!?

‘What the FUCK is wrong with you!? Go sit down!’

looooooooooolllllllllll

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by Saurav A. Das on Mar 13, 2010 9:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it works best for Phil because he doesn't do it all during the game.

The refs don’t have him jabbering in their ears all the time so they figure when he does get pissed, he has a legit gripe.

by SoCalGal on Mar 13, 2010 6:58 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

+100

and recd

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by Czheck on Mar 13, 2010 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

His PLAYERS had to restrain him

Coach Gentry, when a player has to restrain a coach, YOU’RE DOING IT WRONG.

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by Saurav A. Das on Mar 13, 2010 6:48 AM PST up reply actions  

A win, I'm happy

but Lakers, ya’ll sure need more and more

There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be commited against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the LimeLight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.

by BrittneyM on Mar 12, 2010 10:59 PM PST reply actions  

Im not

cause the damn colleges are fucking with my head…Its been a rough few weeks, but a Laker win does slightly ease my mind…for now at least. just these damn colleges wont let me know if i got in…ugggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh Probably this isnt the appropriate place to vent my frustration, but I just cant help it…sorry

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Mar 13, 2010 12:36 AM PST up reply actions  

take your mind off it

that’s something you can’t control. Wait, and hope for the best

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by altree on Mar 13, 2010 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

thanks man

i’ll try i guess….

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Mar 14, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

@shaqfor3 it will be alright...

it is necessary to vent at times.. to feel a little better…

by didoucet on Mar 13, 2010 12:42 AM PST reply actions  

Just watched the game on League Pass

And I’m pretty sure I lost something along the way because I had to deal with the Suns’ announcers, who really came out with a load of moronic dribble. Their attempts to analyze Hollinger’s CSR article were just pathetic. In any case, it was close, although the difference between this game and a blowout were 1) free throws 2) rotations on pick-and-rolls. Fisher being ten feet away from Nash off the screen and forcing Bynum to cover two people happened at least five or six times throughout the game and almost always led to points. As usual, our refusal to dump it into the post, especially with Bynum simply owning whoever was guarding him, was baffling, although our three-point shooting was notably better tonight.

We also had a few sequences in which we actually had some decent Gasol-Bynum synergy, most of which revolved around Gasol catching the ball in the high post, Bynum spinning to seal his man deep in the paint, and Gasol giving him the easy points. Simple play but it was pretty effective. Also, our most effective man for going through screens was Vujacic, bad shoulder and all. If he can curb his foul happy tendencies for a bit, he really should get 20+ minutes.

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.

by Ben R on Mar 13, 2010 1:23 AM PST reply actions  

drivel*

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.

by Ben R on Mar 13, 2010 1:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Mmhhmmm.

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by Saurav A. Das on Mar 13, 2010 6:49 AM PST up reply actions  

But Shaq used to attack the rim for 30

Bynum can make touch shots Shaq couldn’t make, he’s great when he gets to the rim, but he needs to learn to get there more often to be the all-star Jim Buss needs him to be. With Bynum’s better array of shots, he could score more than Shaq if he made the effort to get more easy ones. Plus, Drew can make free throws, so guys will be reluctant to foul him because they’ll still pay the price.

by celticandlakerfanreally on Mar 13, 2010 7:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Except Shaq didn't need Bynum's arsenal in the post

Because he just overpowered whoever was in his way. Poor comparison. The Bynum of the past few games has been an All-Star without question.

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.

by Ben R on Mar 13, 2010 11:53 PM PST up reply actions  

it's about time, isn't it?

sorry, but I think we might need to credit Fisher’s intangibles for that.

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by thestuff01 on Mar 13, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

The Suns commentators seemed to be a season behind..

‘Derek Fisher is money from over there’
‘Pau is deadly in that area’

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by Saurav A. Das on Mar 13, 2010 6:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, and the gem:

‘The Lakers and the Suns have a bitter rivalry’

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by Saurav A. Das on Mar 13, 2010 7:01 AM PST up reply actions  

ha yea i heard that one

i guess the lakers are every teams’ rival. they just don’t know it.

Is that you Dacos?

by Madz on Mar 13, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

haha

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by thestuff01 on Mar 13, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

correction

“we” just don’t know it

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by altree on Mar 13, 2010 10:09 PM PST up reply actions  

lol I have noticed alot of away games the Lakers play the broadcasters try to make there team as good as the Lakers. For example the stupid Kings and Trailblazers broadcasters. lol

by 15xtimeNBAchamps on Mar 14, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

That was one of the egregious comments

Hmm, which team do we have a bigger rivalry with? The team that we beat in the playoffs a few times when they sucked, or the team that has destroyed our championship dreams the past half-decade.

MUST BE THE FORMER!

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.

by Ben R on Mar 13, 2010 11:54 PM PST up reply actions  

out of 7 turnovers

2 should not have been credited to Kobe.4 others were entry passes and 1 was dribbling off the foot.
As a side note Ron’s air ball trey was one of the ugliest air balls I have ever seen.

by meeer1171 on Mar 13, 2010 4:44 AM PST reply actions  

BTW, does Nash normally shoot his threes like that?

I haven’t watched a Suns game in yonks, but his three point stroke looked odd, to say the least. He was almost falling forward on all his attempts, and seemed to be shooting them two-handed. The Suns’ commentators did say his injurry was affecting his shot, but never referenced specifically towards his three-ball.

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by Saurav A. Das on Mar 13, 2010 6:51 AM PST reply actions  

anyone have a video link of gasol’s foul that upset gentry?

by chaucer on Mar 13, 2010 7:15 AM PST reply actions  

I don't have a link, but

Gentry had a legitimate gripe, that was a flagrant one. It looked like Pau was possibly making a play on the ball, although even that was debatable, but it was a reckless and risky play where the chances of being able to attack the ball cleanly were pretty much nil. Pau whacked him over the head, in the end.

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by Saurav A. Das on Mar 13, 2010 7:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Moving the Rock

Maybe Pau’s comments:

 9http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;ylt=AuPCeiuZqNj60yeWESh4Cw5nYcB?slug=aw-kobelakers031310&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

got Kobe to move the rock around to get those 8 assists in PHX. This is the way the Lakers played when Kobe was out. One begins to wonder if Kobe wanted to play all 82 games so onbody wuold see what happened without him. Fewer 10 second iso plays, and more ball movement off double teams actually works in the NBA. And Pau is a good passer, so the ball should come into him at the post at some point. Possessions with a touch by Pau as well as by Kobe ought to lead to good shots—more than those long isos requiring too many miracles.

by celticandlakerfanreally on Mar 13, 2010 8:00 AM PST reply actions  

you must not be a real laker fan to say this

“One begins to wonder if Kobe wanted to play all 82 games so onbody wuold see what happened without him.”

I bet you only watch the games that come on TNT, because that is not insightful analysis at all my friend.

by Jevon O on Mar 13, 2010 8:47 AM PST up reply actions  

"...so [no]body would see what happened without him." - You must be joking

Or you’re a celtics fan. That’s a ridiculous statement. If you were a Lakers fan, you would know how ridiculous it is because you would know Kobe better than that. You really think Kobe’s confidence in himself is that low? Come on now celticandlakerfanreally. Suuuuure.

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by thestuff01 on Mar 13, 2010 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

chicken or egg?

how about,if Lakers’ shooters/inside men are able to knock down tons of gimmes from Kobe?Most of the games already start by lots of ball movement.Ron and Fish were able to convert yesterday and Bynum was a welcome beast.Maybe than Kobe will back down,what do you say celticsandlakerfanreally and other gripeful Kobe dissers?

by meeer1171 on Mar 13, 2010 9:59 AM PST reply actions  

Agreed. All he wants is a win, no matter how it comes. But if it means he has to take the most shots, so be it.

Goes back to the whole assist thing. You can’t get one if your teammate doesn’t make the shot.

by SoCalGal on Mar 13, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

i want to write a book called

a million lost assists the story of kobes life

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by Czheck on Mar 13, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

New NBA Stat needed?

You’re right. Watching 75 regular season Laker games a year plus all the playoffs, I feel if I had a nickel for every open shot missed off a Kobe dish I’d pay for my League Pass sub. And Kobe always seems to start in dish mode, then give up when he has to save the game before things get out of hand. Expecially when the opponents make their open shots. I do think the NBA should keep a stat for passes that SHOULD result in an assist. So a guy might 8 assists out of 15 “assist opportunities.” I think a lot of Kobe doubters would be surprised at the level of team play. Still, while Kobe passes the ball plenty, I still he could create better opportunities by keeping the ball moving the way the triangle was designed. I just think he can be even better.

by celticandlakerfanreally on Mar 14, 2010 8:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Personally, I don't know how much better Kobe can be, even though he's always working to improve his game.

I think one thing that really bothers me is when people say he doesn’t make his teammates better. I just don’t see how he can do that. No one makes him any better, he does that himself, even by seeking help like he did last summer. But he’s expected to make his teammates better when they don’t feel the need to do anything for themselves. Like Andrew feeling he had done enough work with Kareem so he “fired” him. What a dumbass. You’re 22 years old and you know enough to be the great center everyone expects you to be, so you no longer need any help. Yeah, good luck with that. The other players don’t work on making open shots so Kobe’s blamed for not getting enough assists in a game. It’s mind-boggling.

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