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Last night's game was all about Pau. Not Kobe's absence. Nor Andrew's. Don't get me wrong now - their unavailability plays a huge factor, overall. But yesterday? All about Pau's assertion and the impact it can (and did) have.
The teamwork you saw. The fluidity on offense. The return of the Triangle. They all fall on the shoulders of a 7'0" Spaniard, who just last week, was complaining about touches. He had somewhat of a point, but it's not about the number of touches or shot attempts (his attempts are right on pace with last season). It's about his decisions when he's getting the ball. How those decisions, or lack of, help factor into the malaise of the Lakers' offense.
Against the Spurs, we saw the return of the Pau we were spoiled enough to get used to these past few seasons. The All-Star Pau, that some consider the most complete Power Forward/Center in basketball.
In last week's column that C.A. and I shared thoughts on, we explained how the problems on offense were Kobe problems to solve. He's the leader of this team, it falls on his shoulders to get this team back on track. I was a bit more harsh in my original post, but fact still remained that in order for the offense to come back to life, post play had to be made a consistent priority. No matter who's to blame.
Now Pau took more shots then he usually takes (20 FGA), and he missed more than usual (12 misses - although, his shooting percentage lately hasn't been Pau-like). The misses were minor. It was the decisive manner in what he did with the ball when he got it, that helped to anchor the offense last night. He didn't wait and wait until whatever advantage he had disappeared then he was forced to kick the ball out. Only to watch some wing player chuck a 3-pointer because Pau didn't bother to re-establish position after giving the ball up. He was quicker in his decisions, aggressive in establishing position, and at times insistent on taking the shot. It had a trickle down effect and some of the shots the perimeter guys got, were more in flow.
Hopefully he keeps this up when Kobe returns, for the team's sake. It's clear that Kobe has to make sure the offense operates through the post, but it's on Pau to make sure that it pays off. He wanted the chance to take advantage of his advantages. I wanted him to work the kinks out for the sake of the team down the line. He's getting his chance and he's making the most of it - so far. The team's offensive flow is the beneficiary.
(There were glimpses of the return to offensive dominance during the Grammy Road trip, especially against Indiana and Toronto. Can it stay? On second thought, forget that. It was Indiana and Toronto. That's not an accomplishment, it's a given.)
On to the others:
- The Lakers did a very good job of settling down on defense. They started out by letting Tony Parker have his way. Parker had 10 pts. in the 1st Q alone. Then 10 pts. the rest of the way. As good as our offense seemed in flow, it defense was probably more impressive.
- Lamar was just great. In my opinion, the highlight of the game was his stutter step and drive on the baseline for a dunk. Past Tim Duncan, who is a very good defender. Timmy had no chance. When Lamar is aggressively taking it to the basket. Good things happen.
- Fish was hitting his shots. 'Nuff said about that.
- I don't understand when commentator's continue to claim that Ron hasn't worked out for the Lakers so far. Are they watching the same games we are?
It's true that he isn't as athletic as Trevor Ariza, nor as good a finisher at the rim. Nothing shows this more than the plays that require the wing to make a hard cut to the basket, and for the man in the post to handoff or drop pass to the cut man (Pau had one to Luke in the 3rd Q). Other than that, he does everything else better than Trevor. Our team defense is better, and the ceiling is higher than what we've seen.
It was Ron who put the brakes on the Spurs hot start. These past two games, he's looked like the Ron from first few games of the 2009 Western Semis against Houston, when he carried the Rockets against us. His 3-pt. shooting has improved remarkably. He's shooting at 46.4% in 2010, and he's at 40.1% for the season. His presence in the post is a problem, and he earns his share of fouls on both ends. Plus, it takes up space for an elite rebounder like Lamar to rack up.
He's fitting in just fine. - Farmar is best when he's taking it to the hoop. He's been very trigger happy lately (step back 3-pt shots are becoming a habit), but I don't mind if he's penetrating.
- I do mind the increased chucking form Shannon Brown. He's a great change of pace, but he doesn't need to take 13 shots. With or without Kobe. He's got a consistent shot in the pinch post area, and his 3-pt. shot is decent and getting better. He shot 50%in January, and I think it's leading to his decisions to take more. He's not the greatest post entry passer and he makes up for this by shooting. Hitting shots is great. It's even better when you get easy shots by relying on post entry.
- Machine sighting!
Sasha started out his game with some typical stupid Sasha things. Two quick fouls, acting confused as to how he got them, getting in a ball handler's face, then letting them blow by him. Typically, this gets him pulled real fast, and he isn't able to fall into any confident groove. Last night? Phil left him out there, and he proceed to hit a 3-pointer at the buzzer to end the 1st Q, then a 2-pointer and a 3-pointer sandwiching a Farmar bucket to start the 2nd. His contributions in that time helped stop another Spurs run, and kept the Lakers right there until the starters came back in to take control for good.
He has the most to gain in Kobe's time off. Let's hope he takes advantage of this opportunity.
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Lakers had a huge win last night
but i saw 10 shots gasol missed that qualify for WTF moments. he really needs to go stronger to the hoop and if hes going to lay it in,please for the love of the 15 banners we have dont miss more than 5 2 feet shots a game.
besides that i was really impressed with:odom,walton,artest,and farmar
what a great game last night! the spurs know how we felt in 2005 now lol

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by mrbarneydangles on Feb 9, 2010 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
Gasol, Odom, & Artest
alone would be the core of a playoff calibre team, so I’m not surprised they were able to beat Portland & San Antonio with what they had as they are not the elite team that a full & healthy Lakers squad would be. Good to see some of the guys step up though and without Kobe, Gasol needs to put the team on his back and earn it.
No more raining on BN's rainy parade, they took their ball and went home, lmao.
Bench play has been on point lately
Although the Lakers have somewhat struggled recently, the bench has been playing great. Shannon has met expectations this year and is a solid backup and Farmar is playing excellent this season. He is penetrating and dishing and even finishing a lot. The key with Farmar is his confidence. He is a very skilled player but got down on himself last year after his knee injury. My only concern with Farmar is we re-sign him next year and his play drops off like Sasha’s did.
Couple Brown and Farmar with an aggressive Odom and the Lakers are absolutely unstoppable. Scary stuff realy. Odom is and always will be the x-factor. He has all-star calibur talent, if the can come out penetrating, dunking, and grabbing a million boards, no one will be able to stop him, or us.
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by mrbarneydangles on Feb 9, 2010 12:20 PM PST reply actions
i'm not as worried about farmar with the case of sashanitis
Sasha (and luke to a certain extent) had been with us for a couple of years before breaking out in 2008. so it was possible that 2008 was a fluke year when compared to the many seasons of mediocricy prior.
jordan on the other hand ha’s shown in 2007-2008 that he’s capable of playing well (and that was only his sophmore year with no contract decision). He was playing decently before his knee surgury last season. And again is regaining his “mojo” this season.
still, i don’t know if he’s worth the contract that sasha & luke are playing on right now. also, i don’t know if he actually wants to play with the lakers after this season, seeing how he said in the offseason that he wants to play as starting PG or a much larger role. not to mention the triangle is almost a “waste” of his skills.
I hear ya
Sasha and Luke are in the 5 mil per year range right? I could see Farmar doing something like a 3 year 12 mil deal with some incentives and maybe the 4th year being a player option (or something to that extent). I expect Jordan to pick up Ammo’s contract dollars.
I think he would want to stay with the Lakers, wouldn’t you? I bet Ariza is wishing he would have stayed with the Lakers right about now, regardless of his increased touches and points. At the end of the day, the player needs to ask himself what is most important? Points, minutes, stats, etc, or building a legacy for best franchise in sports next to the best bball player on the planet all while competing for championships. Lamar made the right decision, hopefully Jordan will too.
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by mrbarneydangles on Feb 9, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
Ariza is young and got his championship ring,
Im sure he was going after the money. He wasnt making alot last year, and probably wanted the big paycheck.
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wrong about the paycheck
In Houston he settled for nearly the same amount that Buss was offering
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He quite possibly would have come back to us
If no-one made him a bigger offer, but Buss wasn’t going to bother waiting for him and instead signed Artest to the offer they were giving Ariza.
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by Saurav A. Das on Feb 9, 2010 6:30 PM PST up reply actions
credit that to his agent
if you were here in the offseason, here’s what a lot were saying about his agent, David Lee (not the player): “OFF WITH HIS HEAD!”
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Totally his agents fault....
Im sure Ariza wanted to come back for that money, but when his agent said no, he deserves more money, the Lakers turned to Artest and basically said “here, you want this contract?” Ariza’s agent killed his chances of coming back to LA.
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Hey, nice article
Pau showed us last night why he is an all-star and why he is so important to this team. He operates the offense almost seemlessly. As far as I’m concerned, bench Bynum and only feed him in the post over Gasol when he has a huge mismatch otherwise you’re killing our offense.
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i think bynum, like fisher, should stay in the starting lineup
because their potential is higher when playing with the likes of kobe. kobe can get bynum and fisher the “easy” shots a lot better than the bench can. on the other hand, odom/gasol helps faciliate the offense so smoothly that will help more with the bench play. if bynum plays with the bench, i would imagine the ball movement would stall even more, especially with our trigger happy guards.
To combat that point of view...
…Bynum’s issue is that he is sort of a black hole on offense. That is, when he gets the ball, he rarely finds his teammate with a sweet dish for an easy bucket. He’s going up with a shot for himself. Often times it is a good one, don’t get me wrong.
Playing with the bench this is much more effective because instead of taking shots from the likes of Gasol, Kobe, and Artest —Bynum will be not passing to Farmar, Brown, and Luke Walton.
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but it's not really about who gets the shot, but the effectiveness of the shot
in playing with the bench, opposing teams may decide that they can afford to double bynum (or at least his looks won’t be as clean w/o kobe stealing defensive attention away). in any case, if teams try to deny bynum the ball, we’ll end up with farmar, brown, sasha, luke, etc taking ill-advised jump shots (or sometimes they just don’t bother giving bynum the ball). if teams double bynum with the ball, then “black hole” might try to force bad shots in the post (at least with the starting line-up, he’ll have a cleaner look at the basket). in any case, all effects of not running the offense properly from the low post. in other words, bench time = bad shot selection time. But with Pau/LO running the bench guys, at least the offensive will flow better, which hopefully means more high% shots for farmar, brown, etc.
in any case, i think phil’s big man rotation so far works pretty well with LO subbing for pau in 8 minute mark and allowing pau/LO to work with the bench.
I kind of agree with you...
I’ve thought about this often, Even when Drew is putting up monster numbers.
Offensively, we’re much better with Pau and Lamar together. They just work so well together. No matter how good Bynum may play, his presence on he floor may never completely click with Pau. It just puts Pau in different spots. he’s more effective on the low block, not in the high post.
BUT….When Drew is playing defense well, we have a awesome ceiling on that end. So, what is more important? Especially against the teams we need to be worried about. Cleveland, Denver, Boston, and Orlando. Bynum’s importance is highest against those teams. That doesn’t mean Lamar is a slouch on D. He’s very versatile, but Drew can provide a presence that LO can’t. When Drew is playing D well.
It’s complicated.
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Odom/Bynum is honestly our best defensive frontcourt
They simply haven’t got a lot of reps together. It covers a lot of the weaknesses that Gasol/Bynum (stretch fours, pick-and-roll defense) and Odom/Gasol (post defense, penetration) currently have, and I think Phil is becoming increasingly confident in it, hence the extended burn that lineup got against Boston.
At this juncture, it’s still the regular season, and with Bynum obviously having the higher ceiling, there’s no reason for him to take his lumps and get adjusted to playing in the schemes on both ends. Come playoffs, we may be singing a different tune, but we still have 30 games left to see where Bynum fits.
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I agree that I think Bynum helps us match up with certain teams
like Boston and Cleveland and maybe Dallas and I like his defense, but the big reason I question all of this is because we won a championship doing things a certain way last year and this year we are doing things a different way and it’s unclear whether we are as good as we were last year or not.
Granted, there are other factors that are contributing to this, but I know that the last couple nights with the offense operating solely through Gasol’s hands in the post things have looked a lot more like the days of old.
As of right now I think that, at the very least, Bynum will continue to sit on the bench during critical stretches at the end of games and it’s not because of his bad rebounding and defensive rotations, but because he can’t run the offense worth a lick compared to Pau.
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Good comments from all on this topic ...
Gasol + Odom = fluid offense
However, the Odom/Bynum lineup was very effective against Boston. As wondahbap said, we may see this lineup get more burn against traditional, physical centers like Perkins, Dwight, Shaq.
I miss the “volleyball” days of Gasol/Bynum where those two would simply grab every rebound available … haven’t seen that since last year.
then I propose a variable starting line-up
where Drew would start against those team you mentioned, but against teams that can’t really defend against a fluid triangle offense, we start Lamar.
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You guys need to keep in mind rotations.
If Bynum comes off the bench, it means instead of Drew coming out at roughly the 8min mark for Odom, who then finishes the first quarter with Pau; you have Drew coming in at the 8 minute mark for Odom. Odom is far more effective in short spurts than Bynum is, due to his experience.
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by Saurav A. Das on Feb 9, 2010 6:33 PM PST up reply actions
As a matter of fact
my proposal would help Andrew a lot. 1) It would help alleviate the risk of aggravating his injuries when he comes from the bench with the limited minutes; 2) Gives him a look at how Pau facilitates the offense (he should still be interested since its the beginning of the game) 3) Any deficiency by the team defense is mitigated since there is lots of time for adjustments later on. 4) He still starts against the teams that pose a physical challenge, thus getting minutes and experience on the floor.
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Well, yeah
If I were a coach I would always alter my starting lineups based on match-ups, nothing would ever be set in stone.
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by Saurav A. Das on Feb 9, 2010 9:41 PM PST up reply actions
"Odom is far more effective in short spurts"
Did you hear that from Khloe?
by Madz on Feb 9, 2010 7:32 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
Good call
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by Saurav A. Das on Feb 9, 2010 9:41 PM PST up reply actions

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